Stunt Summer Sessions #4: Try A Little Severance!

In Episode 77, the Stunt Brothers feel they’ve finally hit the "Dog Days of Summer" they were hoping for as they head deeper into July. Roy drops a not-so-subtle reminder to Martin that his birthday is just 7 days away, meaning Martin better start making some plans! Continuing with their Summer Series, Martin shares his #4 pick: Episode 11, Severance. He hopes all the teacher listeners out there can disconnect from work and truly enjoy a stress-free summer break. Grab a comfy deck chair or queue up this episode for your next road trip!

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:05

Good afternoon, podcast listeners everywhere. Welcome to After the Bell, a Stunt Brothers production.

Speaker 0:11

I'm Martin Stuible. And I'm Roy Hunt, and we share your pain, having taught a combined 70 years. 70 years. I know. Wow. So get out your marking, organize your supplies, or just pour yourself a coffee. I think I need something stronger. That's okay. Okay. And listen, engage, and interact with After the Bell, a podcast for you, the hardworking, dedicated teacher who wants free lesson plans, free advice, and a free meal. Well, I always show up for a free meal. Okay, it's July 20th. We're getting close to those warm dog days.

Speaker 1 0:47

I think this is what they mean when they say dog days.

Speaker 0:49

Afternoon? Dog days days.

Speaker 1 0:51

Dog day afternoon. That was a film, wasn't it?

Speaker 0:53

That was a film.

Speaker 1 0:54

Like a like a plot to blow up something. Was that the one with the Goodyear blimp was going over the stadium? That's when I'm picturing the poster for that. I don't know. Listeners, let us know. That's the I just picture that. But I don't think I've actually ever seen that movie.

Speaker 1:10

And uh so being July 20th, I just let I'm giving you a little heads up. Okay. Because in seven days it's my birthday. Wow. And so uh I'm expecting, you know.

Speaker 1 1:22

Okay. I I better put my mind to it.

Speaker 1:25

At least text me and say happy birthday.

Speaker 1 1:28

We're gonna be in the studio on your birthday. It's the twenty-seventh, right?

Speaker 1:32

Yes.

Speaker 1 1:32

So we'll be we'll be here in the studio. Oh, I don't know if I can work with that. Wow. Okay. Okay. Are you gonna throw it? I can't work now. Okay. Can't do next week. So what is your number four? Aaron Ross Powell, we're now at number four. And I you know I've been thinking it's summertime, and by now I hope people have severed their memory of the work here. You know, it takes a while. This is what relax feels like. Wow. And you discover that in yourself. And Severed, we did an episode called Severance. And it's because I you know I love the show. I really enjoyed that. The Apple TV show is fantastic. And it's about the idea, can you sever work from your home life and your family life? And in the end you can't, nor should you completely, but it's good to practice it a bit. So we did an episode called Severance, and that was episode 11. It was one of our first ones, right? And it was our first one where I really felt we kind of went off on a different angle. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

Speaker 2:34

Yep.

Speaker 1 2:34

Right? It wasn't totally to do that.

Speaker 2:36

Was it as scripted? Yeah.

Speaker 1 2:38

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: It was part of our growth, our own, right? Severance, our own ourselves, right? And I just thought it was a lot of fun. We did it's actually one we did not do in the box. We severed ourselves from this location where we record most of the time. And it was at my in my kitchen. In your kitchen. Right. And uh that was episode eleven. So everyone, we hope you're practicing a little severance and that you enjoy a rebroadcast of season eleven. Season eleven.

Speaker 3:06

Episode Episode 11.

Speaker 1 3:07

Severance.

Speaker 3:08

Severance, yes.

Speaker 1 3:13

Well, Mr. Hunt, here we are. It's episode, would you believe it? Episode 11.

Speaker 3:18

Episode number 11. Uh we're not in our usual place where we uh lock ourselves in the box for three hours.

Speaker 1 3:26

No, we're not. We're actually in my kitchen. We're in your kitchen. Right on this beautiful, beautiful day. Um, we're trying this something different. We don't have the studio today, so we thought we'd try to do a recording in-house, so to speak, and we'll see if there's the sound quality is any different, but it's a good experiment for us, and we get to look out and watch the birds who are very happy on this cold, cold minus four day, I think. Yes. For those of you in the rest of Canada, that's not cool.

Speaker 3:52

But the rest of Canada is suffering, it's way colder. Uh, in fact, the southern states right now. Uh, they have snow in Florida. I know. There are snowball fights in Houston and uh it's a topsy, topsy world.

Speaker 1 4:07

It is very strange right now. It is. But uh, look at the birds, they're happy. And uh, oh, we have a couple friends who just joined us.

Speaker 4:13

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 4:14

They're our crow friends.

Speaker 4:15

They're your crow friends, yes.

Speaker 1 4:16

They have me well trained. Every morning they see me at the kitchen window and they go, uh, they know to go to the railing, and they watch me toddle off to the cupboard and get them some peanuts.

Speaker 4:26

And there you go.

Speaker 1 4:27

Their day is made, and I we have uh a few names for them. When they first came a few years ago, this is probably the second or third generation who have now come in, but we had we had Cheryl. Crow. Yeah, and then we had Russell, Crow. And then we ran out of crow names that were our last name crows, so we got onto the Beatles, which I love. So we had we had uh McCartney or we had Courtney, we called him, and Lennon, and we now we have Ringo, and Ringo has brought their one of their offspring from last year, sometimes, and we call that crow Zach, which is Ringo Star's son, Zack Starkey, who actually has been a drummer for The Who and Oasis in the past as well. So I didn't know that. Well, I know you know a lot about the Beatles, I do, and that could be a whole podcast that people don't want to hear right now. Yes, I listen to a few of those for sure.

Speaker 5:14

But we we have a lot of crows around here, and um not far from uh North Vancouver in Burnaby. We actually have a murder uh in Burnaby. Uh over 10,000 crows that uh uh are housed there at night.

Speaker 1 5:30

And it's amazing in the summer. I we see them heading off from North Van over the water to Burnaby, and it's just you're as you say, thousands upon thousands. So just cool to have that as part of your environment, right? Yes. And I think I've learned to appreciate crows in the past. I found them a little annoying, right? But they're they're such an intelligent creature that I've really learned to like them a lot.

Speaker 5:53

There you go.

Speaker 1 5:54

And uh you may think that's all I do now, right? Yes, the poor old guy, he's getting old, he's at home, and he's watching the birds all day.

Speaker 6:01

Wow, there are no more zucchinis in the garden, so you have to do something else, I guess.

Speaker 1 6:05

Well, I am getting ready for this coming spring, right? Getting the garden ready. And I I'm always busy with my writing, working on the podcast. So, in many ways, I think I'm busier than ever. That's the funny thing about retirement. And I find that when my wife comes home, who's still teaching, yeah, I have to control the giddiness that I have because I'm doing all these passion projects and all these things I've been waiting my whole life to do, and I I can get a little giddy, and yes, I have to just suck it up and just not really show that I'm jumping up and down all day, right? Going hoo-hoo.

Speaker 6:37

Doing something completely new.

Speaker 1 6:39

Living the dream, right? Yes, but it's been fantastic. And uh you're still TOC and still TOC. Nice.

Speaker 6:45

Um, the last uh few weeks I've been called back to the school that I retired from. Uh I I enjoy that. So I walk in the door, and uh the staff give me a cheer, and they go, Oh, Roy's back. The rock star, right? And and then the kids, and the kids. Uh, they're very excited to see me. Uh there's a big cheer. Yes, I feel a little bit like a rock star.

Speaker 1 7:08

That's why they keep coming back for reunion tours, right?

Speaker 7:10

Yes. Well, my audience is much smaller, but uh they're equally enthusiastic. Yes, they are equally enthusiastic, and they really they fill my heart one night. For sure. So, and you've the experiences continued to be good for you. It continues to be good. Um I've been doing um things as an itinerant teacher, so I've been teaching science one lesson five times uh in the day. And uh so the same lesson five times, and the last one was the best.

Speaker 1 7:43

And the kids for the first lesson said, no, it wasn't so good. What's going on? Yeah, five times to get it worked out. That's kind of the pleasure of that. But it's also very challenging to be an itinerant teacher, right? And that could be a whole episode, I think, to talk about, especially when you have a cart and you have to go from class to class, and it's not the easiest thing to do.

Speaker 8:00

It's not the easiest thing to do. You've got to you've got to get up, you gotta move, and you don't want to be late because the teacher who's waiting for you has uh we call it knit time or non-instructional teaching time. That's their time to catch up on paperwork and uh and do prep. And so they're they're uh standing at the door waiting for you to get in, and as soon as you walk in, they fly out.

Speaker 1 8:22

So and I think it's neat that you're getting a chance to get a glimpse of so many different facets of teaching. You mean you had the classroom experience and you did many different grades for in that experience, but now you get to see the itinerant teacher, see the kindergarten teacher, have a day to be a band teacher, right? And that's just uh must be very refreshing to get a chance to see all those different to see different the different the different views, the different lenses that people have uh uh for their teaching. Absolutely, and you know, you do that, but you keep coming back here, and whether it's here in my kitchen watching the birds or in the studio, we keep having this podcast to work on, and it's really going well. We're really getting a lot of listeners now, and it's exciting, and you know, you must really like it, right? I really think you like it. Yeah, I'm enjoying it, it's very different. Because uh, you know, every time you find yourself here, I I assume it's because you chose to come back, right? Are you using a severance line on me? Oh, you got me. You got me. I've really been getting into severance. I just finished season two.

Speaker 9:27

Okay.

Speaker 1 9:27

Fascinating show. I think you're you're in season one.

Speaker 9:31

Almost finished season one. Okay, and uh yes, it's a very uh interesting idea separating your work life from your um home life. Right. And uh to do that, I mean I think teachers have the a big challenge in doing that, a lot of people do, but to do it uh surgically puts uh a whole new slant on a whole new level, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 9:54

And we talk about work-life balance, and this is a way of making it happen, I guess, when you're not aware of what the work uh part of you is doing versus the home and play part of you. But the question is, should we? Right, should we? Should we? And that's what I think this show kind of deals with. But I think I think we've got ourselves our theme. I think we have today's episode, right? Severance and work-life balance. And should you have severance? Yeah. Is that in fact achievable? And do we want to pay the price to make it happen? Or maybe in the end we can't have it, right? So let's explore that in today's episode.

Speaker 10:30

That would be pseudo-severance.

Speaker 1 10:31

Yeah, right. I think I think that's maybe what we're gonna see, right? Yeah, maybe it's a combination of both. Is it pseudo-severance, or is there actual severance that can happen for yourself and your students? Is that reasonable? Does that make sense? So let's explore that as our theme today. There we go. Ah, there's that sound, Roy. Tell us what that sound means.

Speaker 10:51

That's the sound of the nugget. That's the takeaway, something that uh you can use in the classroom uh from what we're discussing today.

Speaker 1 10:58

Yeah. And you know, we have to decide in the end about severance before we get to what the nugget could be. What do we mean by severance, and is it even possible?

Speaker 11:09

Right? Well, you know, it's really difficult in finding uh work-life balance, and that that's because our lives and and our our work pressures are constantly changing. They are so we make uh one sort of tweak or one direction, then all of a sudden you realize, oh, next week is report cards, right? Or oh, it's uh uh school-based uh resource team meeting, and I have to do paperwork for that. So there's always something that's changing. So a complete separation, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 11:38

I don't think you can do that. I don't think you can do that. And our focus is really going to be on the point that you get home, you should be able to not think about work too much. Yes. We're not really talking about getting to work and not thinking about home because those could be some serious mental health issues you're dealing with or other things. Maybe you're going through a divorce. There's all kinds of things that we're not in any way suggesting you need severance from that. Our focus here in talking about severance is to be able to leave whatever time you leave and really not think about work, right? Yeah, that would be nice to be able to go home and have that work life balance where you're on to the other part of your life. And sometimes that's busy, you're you're raising kids, you've got things to do, and you'd like to give that your complete attention. Or maybe you just want to go for a jog or go for a walk around Stanley Park and just take a breath and enjoy yourself and not think about work, right? So that's kind of the focus here in the golden nugget. Right.

Speaker 12:34

So in the nugget, we're we're gonna try to separate the work life from from the home life.

Speaker 1 12:39

Yeah. And I think And that's hard to do, though, right? That it's a challenge. Like as teachers, we're always thinking about work, right? And part of it is that's why I think we should call it pseudo-severance, right? In no way are we saying you must not think about work when you go home. Well, as teachers, that's impossible.

Speaker 12:59

I think about work over the summertime, and I'm going through uh some stores, maybe thrifting, and I go, I could use that in the classroom.

Speaker 1 13:07

Exactly, or out for a hike and you see a rock with certain minerals in, and you go, Oh, there's my science lesson, right? So, no, that's that's not part of the creative mind that teachers have that we're saying get rid of.

Speaker 13:18

But I think that's it. Those are those creative moments, those inspirational moments. So having a complete shut off um is going to um prevent you from having those moments of those aha moments, those things were like, Oh, what a great idea I have. Yeah. And and I agree, it's it's that create that creative spark that teachers have that um that that spark kindles a fire.

Speaker 1 13:42

It does, and that's part of the excitement of the job. But I know I I my kids always found it hard because I live in the community that I teach, and so do you, right? And I would often go when they were younger shopping at the grocery store on a Saturday, and they kind of would dread it because what should have been a half hour pop-in, pop out. Yes, it could be an hour and a half later because I'm seeing parents, and it was all positive. But there were there were many little parent-teacher conferences on the spot. Yes. You know, maybe I should have gone to a grocery store outside my community.

Speaker 14:14

Different community, right?

Speaker 1 14:15

But that's part of that severance, right? That I think hopefully we can strive for pseudo-severance, right? Some way to separate your work life when you get home and you can now focus on the other most important part of your life, which is also your family, yourself, those moments that bring joy. Right.

Speaker 14:34

So, in that nugget, let let's give our listeners uh some some ideas of what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 14:39

Yeah.

Speaker 14:40

So uh one thing would be to set a time each day, or maybe at least one day a week, set a time where you're saying, I'm leaving the school at this time and actually do it.

Speaker 1 14:51

Yeah, decide that day. You know you don't have any meetings, you're not meeting any parents, you don't have a staff meeting, you leave at that time that you set. That's actually earlier than you usually set. And go. Just go and leave and don't bring marking home with you. Keep your marking at school. Yes.

Speaker 15:07

And if anything, at least don't bring it into your bedroom.

Speaker 1 15:10

Right. Because that can get depressing, right? Yes. When you look at your desk at work and it's all covered in papers you have to work on, then you go in your bedroom at home and it's all this work. You're not separating it. You're not having that severance or that pseudo-severance we're we're talking about.

Speaker 15:27

Right. And don't answer emails at home, especially at night in the morning before going to school, maybe if that's needed. Uh if you could wait until you get to school, it all depends, but not at night before you go to bed. All you all it takes is one email that you're having a problem with and it can ruin your sleep. You're all rattled, right?

Speaker 1 15:47

Maybe it's an issue that you're trying to deal with with a parent, and then suddenly you're you're on it at 10 at night, and it's gonna not help you at all. And I know people that do answer emails all night long, they wake up in the middle of the night, right? And they're answering emails. And I would recommend that you, when you get home, don't look at your emails. And especially now, a lot of email programs will allow you not to respond at a certain time. You can have it set in in your settings, you can have it, and even when you send an email, it can not be sent until it's the work time. Like because I think if you send emails after work and especially after the dinner hour, then people you're communicating with will get used to the fact that you communicate during those hours. And that just sets the idea that you're on 24-7. Yes and people expect that. Well, you're not. Think of your hours, think of your health, think of that pseudo-severance we're talking about.

Speaker 16:40

Um use uh a different email for your personal personal connections. Um, don't use your work email.

Speaker 1 16:47

Don't sign up for your Amazon account for your work email, right? Because then you're suddenly getting notifications on your work email that you then have to look at. Yes, right. Even with friends, don't communicate with your friends through your work email. Use your private email. That's private, work is work. Yes, right. And I think it's important to keep those separate. And those are our suggestions, our nuggets for how we think you may be able to achieve what we call pseudo-severance.

Speaker 17:18

What's that sound?

Speaker 1 17:19

What's that sound?

Speaker 17:20

That's the sound of the homework board. Uh let's have a look.

Speaker 1 17:24

Let's take a look. Uh no field trips this week. We've had quite a few. We've had quite a few. We have, but today it's about homework.

Speaker 17:32

Homework. Thing you lump.

Speaker 1 17:34

I'm giving the big cheer for the homework. But as always, this is designed to be as easy and simple as possible, right? And to be helpful, not a hindrance. Yes. Right? So what are we thinking?

Speaker 17:45

I could never convince my students of that.

Speaker 1 17:48

Wow. That's you can be look at it.

Speaker 17:50

You heard how I wish I could have uh use elaborated the way you did to my students. I think they would have been happier to do homework.

Speaker 1 17:56

But you heard how I sound when you first brought this up. I was not now now look at me, I'm cheering away. So you've done something right.

Speaker 18:02

All right. Fantastic. On our homework board, we would like our listeners to set one goal for changing your work pattern.

Speaker 1 18:09

Um Because we we have ideas, but they might not work for you. And I know in life it's not nothing more annoying than when someone says, here, you must do this, and it doesn't work for you. It doesn't work for you. So maybe do what works for you. Maybe you can't leave every day at a certain time after school or even once a week. You've got to be there, and that's the who you are. So we're not trying to say that.

Speaker 18:31

So we would like our listeners to set one one goal for changing your work-life pattern and then share it on our website.

Speaker 1 18:37

Yeah, and if if you need to have a diary to keep track of these goals, or you just sit down with a colleague and discuss some possible things you could both do to get home and not think about work, do that, but make it achievable. So often in life we set goals that are not achievable. And then, Roy, if you're like me, when you don't achieve those goals, you get down on yourself, right? You do, and then you just give it up. You say, forget it, right? So make some goal that you think you can achieve that would be for you. Right. Focusing on the positive impact that change will make. Yeah. And maybe there's some of the nuggets we talked about, maybe even it's just taking a work-free lunch. But we're not going to tell you anymore now. It's up to you to come up with some ideas and share them on stuntbrothers.ca as well. And set a goal, even if you don't share it with us, but set a goal for you, and we know you can do it. We believe in you, right? You can do it.

Speaker 19:37

And there's my favorite sound. Yes, that's the sound of the detention hall. This is where we put an idea, a concept, or a person uh into the detention hall. Yeah.

Speaker 1 19:48

So what are we doing today for detention hall?

Speaker 19:51

Today we're going to deal with people who use cliches to get people to solve their problems.

Speaker 1 19:58

Right. Even for students. They often think students are just things like suck it up, buttercup, right?

Speaker 20:04

Get over it.

Speaker 1 20:05

Right? Leave your baggage at the door. We've all heard those as if we're supposed to suddenly get over it. Only only Bob Newhart can do it as a psychiatrist. And I know he did this funny skip before he passed away where he played a psychiatrist again, and it was a five-minute visit. You walk into his office, he has puts out a sign, it says, get over it, and you're supposed to walk up cured. But the point is, if you could get over it, you would get over it. Even my dad used to say that often, right? He I think he talked about his sister saying she always thinks, why can't people just get over it nowadays? And he would say, if they could, they would. So it does not help. Cliches like that do not help.

Speaker 20:45

And really what we want is we want to be able to uh listen to our colleagues and listen to our students and say, you know, we can't solve your problem, but we're here to listen to you, and I am here for you, and I believe in you. And those are the things that can help uh promote that move towards um letting something go.

Speaker 1 21:09

Yeah, and supporting too. And for students, I think the uh certainly in the past, uh the point was you weren't supposed to bring anything from home to school. Uh, how could we really understand those students? It's about those connections we've talked about in previous episodes. How do we support them? How do we get them the services they need if we don't understand some of the things they do bring to school? So certainly we should not say leave your baggage at the door.

Speaker 21:33

That's right. So we're putting those people who use the cliches to get people to get over it into the detention hall.

Speaker 1 21:43

Absolutely. Cliches do not fix trauma.

Speaker 21:50

Oh, that's the sound of the rear view mirror.

Speaker 1 21:53

That's when we look into our past and see where we came from and see how it shapes who we are today. So, what do you have for us today?

Speaker 22:00

Well, I'm gonna go back to my childhood experiences in elementary school. Okay. And way. Well, it was fun uh fair bit that uh I remember uh my my father uh working as um in a factory and the factory went out on strike and the strike lasted a long time. We're talking um over a year easily. And so there was a shortage of money in the house, and my mom and dad um were there was conflict um because they were frustrated, which um I really being so young. How old were you at this time? I think I was maybe five or six years old.

Speaker 1 22:46

Right, just starting school.

Speaker 22:47

Just starting school. So anyways, I remember uh being at school, and when you leave a home environment like that and you go to the classroom, the school was a place that was safe for me. But so it's hard to get motivated to you know do your printing. Right, right, right. Do those things that the teacher wants you to do when you're carrying around this big problem. Yeah. And I remember clearly looking at my report cards from that year and the responses from my teacher where uh Roy is a student that has potential, but is lazy and uh messy and uh unorganized and not motivated uh to be in school.

Speaker 1 23:36

Because they expected you to have severance in those days, right? They weren't going to find out about your home life. Right. Right?

Speaker 23:42

No, and my my family would never have shared it with the teacher. I mean, there wasn't that connection there.

Speaker 1 23:48

No, no.

Speaker 23:49

But uh so now having that lens of going through that experience as a teacher, um I always tried to strive to find opportunities to make my students feel comfortable to see if I could get them the supports they needed, whether it was through our counselor, through our school-based resource team. But I use that experience because even as an adult, that still bothers me that uh that that's um those are the comments that are you were used about me at a time when things in my world were very difficult.

Speaker 1 24:32

Those little things do stay with you. It's amazing, right into the adult of your life and who you are. I remember when I was in grade one, and it's not, I mean, it's it's it's not a major issue, but it stuck with me today. It was Thanksgiving, and we were supposed to write about what we did on our Thanksgiving. Now, I had a British mom and a German dad. We we didn't do anything on Thanksgiving, it was not anything that we did, no special thing. So that Monday or Tuesday, I guess, after the holiday, you're going to write about your Thanksgiving. So I didn't have anything to write, so I just wrote yesterday was Thanksgiving. It was a holiday. Well, I got a teacher who got quite upset saying, You need to write about your Thanksgiving and all the turkey you had and all the dinner you had and all the people that came over. And I didn't have any of that. You wanted a lie, right? Exactly. And I think I did. I think I just went back and I made a big lie about it and drew a picture of a turkey, right? But they that teacher, who actually overall was a lovely, lovely woman, but she didn't make any attempt to understand that maybe the students in my class come from different backgrounds and different places. And that certainly stayed with me. And when I became a teacher, I always made sure I understood where everybody came from. And I did not expect them to leave their baggage at the door. And I had many students, and they're often the the warmest moments when I think about because I was there and I created a family in my classroom for the year. I found out about them and then got them the support and things that they needed to you know help them through navigation of a life that is hard without adults who actually take the time to care about you. Yes. Right? And that's why I think it's important that we look in the rearview mirror and realize that when we talk about pseudo-severance, in many ways there are things that we were forced to have severance when we were younger in the past, and it didn't really help anyone and didn't help educate the child and help make them become the complete adult who is able to navigate this very, very complicated life. And I think that's a perfect place to end the episode. And that's the sound that tells us we've come to an end and it's been wonderful. And to talk about severance and the show, but also talk about whether we can have severance. Realize at the end, I think we just came up with the idea of pseudo-severance, right? Yes. I think that was kind of where we were at.

Speaker 27:05

And you know, in today's episode, we really didn't practice uh severance. Uh no, because we're we're in my kitchen.

Speaker 1 27:13

We're in your kitchen, we're not in the studio. We're not in the studio. And it actually feels different. It feels very different. This episode doesn't feel like we have the work-life balance going on because you know, I'm looking around my kitchen and my house and looking outside, and I'm happy here, but this is home, not work. And podcasting has been a lot of fun, but I'm still treating it like a job. We often we go and do it, and it's it's separate. And I today's episode feels different, and we'll see. If listeners let us know if you feel there's a difference in the way we did today's episode, it might it might sound different for sure, because we're not in the same studio with the best um sound quality. The the the the microphones and everything are great here, but we don't have the soundproofing of the studio. So that could make a difference. But it just in terms of the way you approach the job when you feel that there's not a separation, not a severance, right? That's right. And hopefully we can all strive for pseudo-severance, but in no way think that you can have severance in life, right? That's not going to happen. This podcast is organic, taking shape with each episode.

Speaker 28:19

Hmm.

Speaker 1 28:20

Building resiliency for teachers everywhere.

Speaker 28:22

That sounds great.

Speaker 1 28:23

And our website is stuntbrothers.ca.

Speaker 28:26

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Speaker 1 28:29

We will chat again after the bell.