#5 Karmic Divine Journey

🌟 Embrace the Divine Journey of Your Soul 🌟

In this episode, we dive deep into the concept of our soul's karmic journey. It's about understanding how every challenge, every setback, and every moment of discomfort is guiding us to our higher path. We share personal stories of growth, vulnerability, and the power of surrendering to the divine plan—realizing that life is happening for us, not to us.

💫 From asking for help to learning from painful experiences, we explore how these moments shape who we are and where we're meant to go. Join us as we reflect on how the universe’s bigger plan unfolds, and how looking back can provide clarity for moving forward.

✨ Are you ready to embrace your soul's journey and see the wisdom in life's challenges? Watch now!

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Transcript

BatSheva: Hello, welcome to the Brighter Podcast. My name is Batsheva Chelsea: 0:00

And my name is Chelsea, And my name is Chelsea,

BatSheva: 0:06

and my life is totally brighter. Thank you, Chelsea.

Chelsea: 0:11

And my life, thanks to Batsheva, is incredibly brighter.

BatSheva: 0:15

Chelsea and I love using techniques and tools that allow us to deepen our relationships with ourselves, with each other, and with our inner divine, our loved ones, and the world around us.

Chelsea: 0:29

It is our wish that by sharing our journey, our trials and tribulations, our successes and our challenges, that your life too will grow brighter and brighter.

BatSheva: 0:39

and before we get started, let's take a few breaths so that we can all just mentally allow ourselves to let go of everything else. And. So wherever you are, just go ahead and allow yourself to breathe in calming, soothing energy Breathe out Imagine letting anything that wants to go, let it go. Breathing in through your nose, calming, loving energy. And letting go. Anything that's ready to go. Give it mental permission to go. Breathing in again, calming, quieting energy, breathing out anything that's ready to go. Let it go. Welcome to the episode where we are going to talk about our soul's karmic journey.

Chelsea: 1:33

Our divine destination or divine journey, divine path, if you will,

BatSheva: 1:39

How would you define that?

Chelsea: 1:40

I think that for me, it is almost really more of a reflection because sometimes as I'm in the actual process of it. It's a little more challenging to just be there, but I will say that more often than not, as I look back on the challenging times or the uncomfortable situations or experiences that I've been in, I recognize that those have all directed me. Along my path and along this divine path, this divine plan for my soul,

BatSheva: 2:20

I actually really like the way that you just framed it because while I strongly know and believe that our souls have their own journey, their own karmic curriculum is one way to put it, that We have some free will and on the other hand, I believe what is meant for us comes to us and we can work with ourselves and our feelings and along the way we can help that journey become brighter. But at the same time, there is an aspect that the journey is the journey. We're going to have certain challenges and we're going to have certain triumphs that. In a sense, are predetermined. And I like how you framed that in a sense, looking back and being able to use that framework as a reflection as an understanding of life and of what you've been through, because It is so true. When we're living life, it's not really almost even possible to simultaneously have that deep understanding that everything I'm feeling and experiencing, it's my soul's lesson that I must learn in this lifetime. It's a little. Deep for the day to day reality of being alive and being connected with others and being engaged and at the same time for me to have awakened into this understanding of life has been a game changer because I can put now everything in perspective and understand that there Is a bigger purpose and that I fit within this divine plan and it helps me to feel more relaxed, to feel more accepting, to be able to surrender more to that plan, even that it's not passivity and it's not like I just don't do anything, you know, obviously we do a lot of wishing in our daily W's, our wins, wows and wishes. We talked about that in another episode. You and I, we believe in human desire and motivation and discipline and have it having great habits, all the things and parallel to that is this greater divine plan.

Chelsea: 4:33

Exactly. Just the fact that, you know, life is happening for me, not to me. I mean, I can think of times where I'm going through a challenging moment and I'm reciting the mantra all as well. Everything is working out for my highest good out of this experience. Only good shall come. Repeating that over and over sometimes, whenever it's really feels intense and knowing that. It's okay to feel the disappointment or the frustration or the anger or whatever is coming up for you because of X, Y, Z, because of the current situation and also at the same time, knowing that there is a reason why. You know, I didn't get that wish. There's a reason why that wish didn't come true. Maybe it's because there's something more that I didn't even know was there. Maybe it's because I'm not ready for that yet. I want this, but in fact, if it actually came to me right now, do I have the capacity to enjoy it, to receive it to its full capacity. And so acknowledging that's the mystery, the beauty is that we don't know what's best for us. We think that we know what we want. And sometimes a lot of the times those wants change depending on our circumstances and being able to recognize like, I'll just go ahead and share a example for me, My entire life, not to, and let me just preface this too. I feel like that this is something I've wanted to say for since the beginning that we started recording to any friends, family members, in laws, siblings, anyone that's involved in any of these stories. I want you to know that It's always with appreciation and gratitude that you're in my life because I have recognized that a lot of my greatest teachers are the ones that challenge me, are the ones that trigger me, are the ones that show me parts of myself that maybe I wasn't seeing. And so, as I share any of the stories or experiences that I've been through, Just knowing that that's where I'm coming from, I'm sharing these stories, these experiences for others to relate to, for others to use in their lives to, you know, Any kind of thing that can be uplifting or inspiring or a different perspective So having said all that, my parents love them dearly. I wouldn't be here without them, obviously. And they have given and shown me so much. And part of the things that I was able to do once leaving home for college was to start to become responsible for myself. And that meant my own schedule, my own finances, other things. And so up until recently, I have done that solo, completely independent, not asking others for any support or anything. And it was through a recent chain of events that I was gifted the opportunity to Ask for help to not only ask for help, but to need help and to give someone else the opportunity to help me and that someone else looked like my husband and my in laws and it was not comfortable. It was very, very uncomfortable. We scoured, I know that Batsheva, you helped me like, okay, what can we do? Who can we ask? Who can I ask basically for this money, for this loan to get me into this other situation. Chelsea: it all boiled down to asking my husband and then asking his parents It was uncomfortable. yeah, it was a lot of intense emotions and feelings and feeling judged and feeling like, oh my gosh. and now that it's passed, I'm actually able to look back and recognize that it was part of the divine plan for me, because had I not gotten into the situation that I was in, I wouldn't have had to ask for help, which was something that I needed to learn to ask for help to, you know, trust in other people to be vulnerable with other people about my needs, my wants. Where I am and through that, not only did my relationship with my husband grow, but then our relationship with his parents has changed our communication with each other, what we were honest about that has all changed, which led to even further discussions and ultimately other decisions being made and those decisions. Would not have happened had the beginning of that not happened. And so I guess it's just all to say that, you know, in those times of extreme discomfort, of feeling low, of feeling, That I was, I've been able to look back on it and recognize like, Huh, I see now. I see now why all of these things had to happen exactly as they did to be where I am right now. you know,. it's like thinking about past relationships. I can think about my first love and thinking, Oh my gosh, I wanted to marry him. I wanted to have kids, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And now, where I am, and bless him and his family and everything that is with him, I'm sure that he feels the same. It's like feeling so grateful that I didn't get that wish, that there was a different plan for me, because I wouldn't be where I am now, living the life that I am, with the person that I am, having met all the people in my life now, had it not been for that chain of events. So for me, that's kind of what it is. It's reflecting and reflecting, especially on the difficult, the challenging moments that the discomfort growing from that.

BatSheva: 11:00

That's incredible. I definitely know that my soul came into this human body to learn certain lessons and to grow in certain ways and help others. And knowing that, it doesn't necessarily make one thing easier in the moment. And that's why we still need these other tools that we share and that we use to help process difficult, painful, hard emotions and situations as they occur in life. And like you said, It's a gift to see the world this way that there is a karmic curriculum because it's soothing and it's comforting and it feels like a divine wisdom that I didn't have access to as a child when I was much more anxious and fearful and desirous of approval and it feels better. I feel more integrated. That there is a divine and that divine is me and I'm connected to all and the story I thought I would share that highlighted this for me personally was actually I initially was thinking about one time when my youngest son David, who's now 11 back when he was maybe seven years old, he was All the time leaving and going to do whatever he wanted around the house or in the yard, but he never would run away. So we wouldn't like panic every time he would disappear from the dinner table, for example. Well, this was a big holiday and, my husband at the time and my other. three other children. We were all at the dinner table celebrating. I think it was the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, but it was, a really, family, wonderful meal. And David had disappeared as he always does from the table for some time. And, you know, And no one really thought twice about it, but at one point I thought, I better go find this kid and figure out where he is. And suddenly I realized he's not in his room and he's not in the usual places and he doesn't seem to be outside. So I was looking for David. He wasn't in all the usual places and I look outside in our backyard and we have this structure in our backyard. Every year for this holiday, and he's not there. And now I'm like getting worried because that's where he would normally have run to. And I start calling his name, calling his name. Suddenly I hear Ima. He calls me the name Ima, which is Hebrew for mother because my ex husband, he's Israeli and that's what he called me to the kids. That's what they call me, even though I'm not Israeli. So Ima. And I'm like, where is that? voice coming from. He was in our back shed, this like little thing that my ex husband had constructed on the backside of the garage. He was hiding initially in there and he had accidentally locked himself inside the shed and could not get himself out. And I was like, Oh my God, David, we didn't know where you were. And he gave me this big hug and he goes, you know, once I realized I couldn't get out, I just thought, okay. This is my home now, I'm going to have to figure out how to survive here. And I was like, like my heart broke for him because he's so practical. And he was just like, Welp, what do I do now? Like families in the past, like I'm here on my own, I'm surviving. And I was like, Oh, the sweet thing. And then I was remembering this and I had this epiphany When I was married, close BatSheva: to the 20 years that we were married, towards the last, let's say, five, six years, I very much felt like, Welp, this is my life. I'm married, and I have four kids, and I'm so lucky to have a house, to have these things, we have a business. But I was also very aware that I never, And I had stopped even striving for these creative endeavors that were so much a part of my burning heart and soul's desire to do acting, writing, singing, songwriting. I had given them all up along the way of this marriage journey and having children. And I wasn't very happy within my marriage. My husband had made certain life choices that I didn't see eye to eye with him about at all. And yet those were his life choices and I felt completely stuck and yet it did not occur to me as it might for many people to even consider divorcing. I only considered the possibility that I can work on myself. I can make myself happier, stronger, more balanced, more resilience because I believe that like attracts like. Which is true. So energetically, I talked myself into this scenario. As long as I am up leveling spiritually, it'll help him up level. Well, the truth of the matter that I wasn't willing to face is that yes, or he will. I'm not going to say he's up leveling or down leveling because I'm not going to judge him. But let's say in a parallel path with me. Instead, he asked for an out. He was the one who asked me To end the marriage and I was in shock. I hadn't even, allowed myself BatSheva: that possibility because of my own experience as a child growing up in a divorced household. Actually, my mother, Was married three times and the divorce is not the reason that I grew up feeling very lonely and having all of these issues about people pleasing and overachieving and putting too much pressure on myself, but I had conflated the two. And so within my marriage, I just felt resigned. I wouldn't talk to one therapist or coach or one friend who would dare to advise me or tell me to consider. Leaving the marriage. I wouldn't. So this also a good reminder. We can't really advise other people because unless they ask for that advice or are ready for it, it's totally fucking useless. And it's better just to support them where they were. And those friends who did that for me and actually my coach who I still talk to, she never told me anything other than, Hey, he's doing what he wants to do. Why don't you use that as permission to do what you want to do? And follow your own heart and dreams. And I started to do that. I started to get stronger. I started to sing more. I started to write songs again. I started to take time out to meditate, even though there was zero room in my house for it. I would literally put on a sleep mask and sit on my chair. And the kids knew that if I had that mask on not to bother me. And that was my daily meditation. I took what I could take. I would take a walk for 10 to 15 minutes. And it was so hard in the beginning. I was literally like. Pull up early to pick up kids from school and like leave my cell phone hidden in my car and go take a 15 minute walk without my phone before I pick them up so that nobody could contact me. I had to sneak in those self care moments that now I have so expanded into the majority, almost of my day to day life, or let's say like very balanced now, but. Luckily, thanks to those efforts, when my ex husband did drop the bomb, so to speak, on me, I had enough resilience and inner resources, even as I felt this, massive despair and rupture and fear, I simultaneously had this thought, this is my chance, this is a gift, and that Was the divine karmic plan for my soul, because even though I wasn't the one to end it, it was ended for me and for him, because the karmic relationship that we were meant to have in this lifetime and with these beautiful children happened. And I would say we finished whatever agreement our souls had, and now it's time we're not dead yet. It's time for our souls to experience what we're, supposed to experience next, his and mine. And we're not supposed to do that as a married couple. Is that fucking hard and terrible for the children? Yes. I don't take away from that. I mean, I know that. And at the same time, it's also their karmic journey. They will have to also go through this rupture as a part of their story now. And I can be there for them, but they're going to need to go through their own processes and I can support them in that.

Chelsea: 19:34

So beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that deep and very personal experience. I think too, , like adding to it, you know, no matter what, and I'm not a parent, but no matter what, I feel like that whatever parents do, whether it's to stay in the marriage and stay together and be maybe not as happy as you could be, or to have the divorce, I mean, for each of your four children, that will be different. You know, how they experience your all's divorce and how exactly what you're saying, like how it plays out in their divine plan. And we don't know what that is. And so just acknowledging Chelsea: that, Chelsea: accepting, acknowledging, feeling, expressing in healthy ways, processing, all of these things tie into just, you know, It's kind of going with the flow of life and living life and experiencing life and knowing that like, it's all going to be okay. It's not over yet. We don't know what next is going to come. And I do love The idea you are talking about, you know, if I raise my vibration enough, if I'm at this frequency, if I'm leveling up, you know, like attracts, like, and I do believe in all the different laws, the law of attraction, and, you know, we're all, vibrating at a certain frequency. And if you stay in one frequency for so long, then you continue to attract like more and more and more of that frequency and you can end up in different places. And I think that that is also the other beauty of recognizing and using the tools because they allow you to experience and to express and to not sit and dwell and dwell and well. for the most part For me anyways.

BatSheva: 21:42

now that I think about it, we should add on the Facebook page some of the mantras. one of your favorites, which has become one of my favorites, that life happens for us, not to us. I think about that a lot. And then the two that popped into my head that I use a lot that are aligned with this episode's topic. The first one, it's almost not a mantra, but I use it as a mantra and I have it in my desk area Up on a piece of paper it says the process is the point and it has to do with the creative process as well. It has to do with the creative process as well as a writer and as a creator. And it's so real as a person, as much as we want the next level and we want to get our dreams and our wishes, the process is the point of it all. And reminding myself that helps and it's comforting. And the second mantra that I love and I use a lot and I share is what is meant for me. Will come to me and I can let go of all else, meaning yes, I strive, as we said, yes, we're disciplined. And at the same time we can let go because life does bring us the challenges and the rewards that are meant for us. If it's the seed grant that you got, the amount of money that you did or didn't get, that was meant for you and you can let go, you know? And similarly, the marriage that was meant for me came to me and. Also the end of my marriage, that was meant for me too. So it's, again, it's not a resignation and it's not a passivity, although it can sound like that. It is actually very comforting and consoling and reassuring that there's a parallel divine path that is holding us as we move forward as humans with our human energetic desires and efforts.

Chelsea: 23:38

I love that idea. And to add to that, I was thinking About the divine plan and about the divine journey and also about experiences, you know, you had talked about your experience with divorce and like the impact on the kids and everything. And I was just thinking about, karma, your karma. Everyone's individual karmic path and sometimes for me as a reflection, I can look back on the kinds of circumstances and situations that I continually seem to draw in. And I have come to recognize those as my lessons, like, Oh, here it is again. And what is it here to show me? Like what am I here to learn from this? Obviously I haven't mastered it yet because it's still here. It's still showing up. And how can I approach it this time? How can I look at it a different way so that I can see? Why it's coming to me, you know, what agreement did I have or what thing did I want to learn as I came here as a human and recognizing and looking for that in the situation being curious about your experiences in order to evolve and to expand and I feel like one of my big things has been to accept that I'm not for everyone, That I had an ideal vision of what things were like. I wanted my family to. Be a certain way. And I wanted to be in a family that was a certain way. And it's been interesting as that has evolved what I have in turn learned about not only myself and what I was attracting or, wishing, and also how I was viewing things because. As I got that ideal family situation that I'd always dreamed of everyone being proper and on time and a beautiful spread and, you know, everything completely neat and organized and planned ahead of time. It really gave me the opportunity to see my own family in a different light and to gain so much more love and gratitude and appreciation for them exactly as they are. And for myself exactly as I am and to love myself for who I am and to not try and manipulate and turn myself into some sort of pretzel into becoming who I thought somebody wanted because I've always had a wide range of friend groups and different things and as I look back, I'm like, Was I really being myself in all those groups and not to say that I'm not, that I don't have many interests and many different likes, but was I just morphing into and turning into a chameleon to fit in, to be liked, to be wanted in all these different groups and not really being my true authentic self? And so yeah, just recognizing that these people that get drawn into my life, these situations, that they're all part of the plan, part of the plan to help me see myself as more of myself and to accept myself as more of myself and to grow and to let go of certain stereotypes or to recognize the way that I treat people. because of the way that I'm being treated. And, you know, it wouldn't be without the treatment that I've received from some that I would change the way that I am treating others. And that's been a huge, huge lesson for me. And again, part of my plan, I believe.

BatSheva: 27:46

I definitely relate completely to everything you said about having a fantasy and a vision for what I wanted. I mean, a hundred percent that is what helped me walk down this path of spirituality and family, which is what I wanted and what I got, but I went farther. I wanted the perfect family and I wanted a spiritual system and community and a husband and kids and I got all the things, but inside it was lost. And I really. Hit a rock bottom within my marriage and within those years, that was really quite painful and not easy and not quick to recover from. I want to make that clear. It took a long fucking time, you know, of consistent, slow and hard work and slowly learning compassion and love for me, who I am, fuck all, you know, the other trappings of what I wished I were and who I wish I could be like. And it's, I'm sure a lifelong process, but bringing it back to our tool and technique that we're sharing today, The Divine Plan , it's so perfect for exactly what we're sharing because those lessons that you mentioned that you learn We only learn lessons if we deeply emotionally process them. I've noticed that if I just intellectually learn a lesson and say, Oh, you know, someone treated me that way. So I know not to act like that myself, like, ha, ha, ha. Good luck to me because next time I will act like that. But if I'm deeply processing the feeling I had when I was treated that way and I see it and I recognize it and I think it and I welcome it. With the technique, for example, then there's a much better chance that the next time I'm triggered, I won't necessarily do that thing that I might have done otherwise that I would have done otherwise. So this is our experience. Chelsea and I mean, we know each other so well by now we've witnessed each other. literally changing before our very eyes . I mean, it's incredible. So our wish and our desire is for all of you to have the same wonderful opportunity to use these tools and really see your life change and then really Be that safe space for other people and for yourself, first and foremost.

Chelsea: 30:05

Yeah, embody the change and welcome the change because everything is always changing. You're never stepping in the same river twice. You're never stepping in the same ocean twice. Like everything around you, you wake up every day and you are changed. The cells in your body change. Everything changes. And so just, yeah, welcoming change, embracing change, and be like you said, being a safe space for others.

BatSheva: 30:30

Thank you so much for joining us. We are loving having you on this journey with us. We love and adore you and appreciate you. And we look forward to meeting you. So drop us a line through Instagram, Facebook, TikTok. We want to know who you are and feel free to share with us.

Chelsea: 30:46

Until we meet again, embrace what makes your heart brighter.