Heartbeat Of A Woman

The Gift that keeps on Giving

• Jodi Howe • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Understanding the Holy Spirit's Role in Christmas

In Episode 6 of Heartbeat of a Woman, Jodi Howe and Patti Davis delve into the significance of the Holy Spirit in the Christmas story. They discuss the purpose of celebrating spiritual landmarks, the beauty of sweater weather, and the differences between snow in Colorado and upstate New York. Jodi and Patti also reflect on the importance of acknowledging the Holy Spirit as a vital part of the Godhead and explore how His presence has been impactful since the creation of the world. They emphasize the transformative power of the Holy Spirit in guiding believers and how Jesus' conception by the Holy Spirit brings hope to the Christmas season. This episode offers insights into the personal relationship with God through the Holy Spirit and encourages listeners to celebrate Christmas with a deep understanding of its spiritual significance.

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:44 Sweater Weather and Seasonal Reflections
04:04 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Christmas
07:02 The Holy Spirit's Presence in Our Lives
12:53 Personal Testimonies and the Living Word
15:15 The Image of God and the Holy Spirit
15:28 Personal Reflections on Faith
15:53 Understanding the Holy Spirit
19:32 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Jesus' Life
21:13 The Importance of Church and Personal Faith
23:01 Selfless Love and Sacrifice
24:32 Addiction and God's Unconditional Love
26:23 The True Meaning of Christmas
27:49 Final Thoughts and Viewer Engagement

Patti Davis:

And they celebrated so many powerful spiritual landmarks, our festival to celebrate the birth of our Messiah. When it comes to the Godhead, he's the first one mentioned in the Bible, Jodi.

Jodi Howe:

We have an intercessor. We have something that connects us.

Patti Davis:

I think we're on

Jodi Howe:

everybody. Welcome back to Heartbeat of a woman. We are a multigenerational conversation between a mentor and a mentee. My name is Jodi Howe with my dear friend, Patti Davis. Hi, Patti. Hey,

Patti Davis:

sweetheart. Episode 6. Another

Jodi Howe:

week.

Patti Davis:

Oh my

Jodi Howe:

goodness. We back. Episode 6. And I love this sweater weather. We're trying to, we're, well, We actually are officially sweater weather. We can call it that now. I did put on a sweater the other day I love it. And oh gosh, it was like I looked at the temperature. It was like 46 one day when I woke up

Patti Davis:

Oh my goodness. I love this. I I'm

Jodi Howe:

a I'm a Four Seasons girl. I'm

Patti Davis:

from

Jodi Howe:

upstate New York, Syracuse, New

Patti Davis:

York And yeah, I'm from Colorado originally. Yeah, tried um, Florida for three and a half years, but I I pined for my sweaters. Yeah

Jodi Howe:

I have a question about Colorado though and yes now versus the snow in upstate New York. Oh, nothing I'm from New York because if y'all from upstate New York, you know, or New England area we get snow We get in heavy and it's mean and everything goes gray. It's not pretty It's not the weight of snow, like Jesus, you

Patti Davis:

know, lives. No, you come to Colorado and our elevation, Colorado Springs, is 6, 500 feet above sea level.

Jodi Howe:

Okay.

Patti Davis:

So, the sky is blue, the air is thinner, the snow is gorgeous, and so when we do get snow, it's gone within a few days. That's what I heard. You're piled under it for a month. Oh, for six months. No, no, no, no, no. It's just right now. Go up into the higher hills. But again, our state, you know, really focuses on keeping roads clear and stuff because that's where people love to snow board and, um, and ski. But it's nothing like the snow in the Rocky Mountains.

Jodi Howe:

But I also heard that the sun even comes out. Like, you'll get, like, you'll have snow, and you know, Oh yeah, you can ski and snowboard in t shirts on certain days. That vitamin D kind of keeps you awake and alive. See, in upstate New York, it is gray and gloomy. You know, I gotta be careful, because some people who follow our podcast live there. No, good for you. You just have

Patti Davis:

a, I'm sorry, you just have a mean cold winter. I love where I grew up.

Jodi Howe:

I love where I grew up. And I, and Christmas time is such a beautiful time of, White snow and just atmosphere, which I think we're going to kind of start talking a little about that in these next couple of podcasts, but yes. So we are so grateful to be back here and I hope y'all got a lot from last week's teaching. I, I got a lot from last week's teaching. She gives me homework, people. She gives me homework, okay, so I had to have, what did you call it, you called it a Uh, it was the list that you had of all the things to be relatable to Luke. Exactly. To that chapter. Yeah, the formula. That's the word I was looking for. Formula. Formula. And I love that you gave us that option because there are so many scriptures. I've heard other pastors do this with other scriptures where they gave you a formula on how to pray based on a scripture. Okay. So thank you for giving people. So that's making it applicable. Applicable. Because we, we promised you that in the beginning. Life applicable. Bye. Bye. So what do you have for us for today? What is the nugget? Well, we

Patti Davis:

are, this is, this should be dropping around December 9th. Yeah. And again, we're just going to focus on this season for the Christian religion, for the true Christian religion. This, this Christmas is a festival. You know, the Jewish culture, they had a festival and they celebrated so many powerful spiritual landmarks, you know, and, uh, and because we humans forget, we need to have these repetitive festivals to bring us back in from the highways and the byways and the busyness and come around and reflect and remember. And so for Christians, this is a Our time it is our festival to celebrate the birth of our Messiah. Okay, so that's what Christmas is But what we're going to do today I think the lord wants us to talk about Is how the I want us to talk jodi because I don't know if you've you think much about this But I want to talk about how the holy spirit had a very important role on christmas

Jodi Howe:

Yeah, yeah, we don't think about the

Patti Davis:

holy spirit. I know and you know, he's the third That The third deity of the Godhead. He's really important. Churches aren't even talking about the Holy Spirit. You'll hear God and you'll hear Jesus, but oh my goodness, um, the Holy Spirit who's hovered over earth. He's the really, when it comes to the Godhead, he's the first one mentioned in the Bible, Jodi. Genesis one verse two. You said it last week. I said

Jodi Howe:

it last week. We, when you read the Bible and what a lot of people do, scan the Bible. Yes. It was there. It's been there. He talked about it in the Old Testament, but I don't think people apply it. To understanding that it wasn't just the gift that was left from Jesus Christ. He was sort of the bearer of it to leave it for us. But it was way before he even came. It was in that prophecy of him coming.

Patti Davis:

Everything

Jodi Howe:

was predetermined, right? So thank you for saying that. I think that was just a nice education nugget. That I needed to hear. I'm hoping other people are taking that away as well.

Patti Davis:

But um, but let's really look and I want you to think about the role he played in the Christmas story. Okay. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. Right, right. When was the last time you thought about that?

Jodi Howe:

Again, it just like whoosh. It just wipes over you. We don't think about it. We're like, okay, well, Jesus was conceived. Let's just talk about that. It's Christmas. Why are we here? Jesus was conceived. He gave us hope for a better future. Exactly.

Patti Davis:

And there's a lot of other religions where, where, but again, the power of the Holy Spirit came upon her. She was conceived by the Holy Spirit. And then when Jesus, later on, we'll talk down the road, especially when we get near to Easter and stuff, but everything, when he was conceived, When he was in conflict with, um, the Pharisees and stuff, he kept saying this, My Father's Spirit in me. So, yeah, he had his Father's seed, just like we as humans do, and stuff. But we don't need to do the flesh thing, because remember, we're only encapsulated in this flesh, Jodi, while we're on planet Earth. I feel this is our testing time, and all, and so we will, our flesh will return, uh, to the earth, and our spirit will soar. So this spirit is in us. That's why I get to do what I do. I have the peace I have. I have a clean conscience. Um, I'm excited about my days. It's because I have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. But we forget, and sometimes we think we don't need him, but if Jesus needed him,

Jodi Howe:

Really if

Patti Davis:

jesus jesus was conceived by the holy spirit the first time I was taught that it was like wow I like that.

Jodi Howe:

I like it.

Patti Davis:

I like that, but we don't reverence that enough Do we

Jodi Howe:

we don't and I don't think we also realize that we have it this gift in us So i'm gonna jump ahead now into when jesus left us this gift. No, no, we have an intercessor We have something that connects us Sitting at the right hand of the father, right? And the father is the father the omniscient sovereign God of the universe and then we've got him right here Oh, I always put it here because I always feel like it's like right here next to my heart yeah, that's where the spirit is, but he's in us and and the Lord is saying implement and and and Tap on me 24 7. You have a problem? Ask me. That's the Holy Spirit. Oh, talk about the ultimate life coach. Life coach. You have a life coach in you. Well, I needed the Holy Spirit this morning when I needed to get back into a focus forum of what we are doing.

Patti Davis:

Aren't you glad he's long suffering for us? Yes. It's like, oh, Jodi got up again. Let's help her get there.

Jodi Howe:

Right? For me,

Patti Davis:

too. I mean, I'm just down the road. Well, and it's a joke,

Jodi Howe:

too, because then there's that whole thing where it's like, okay, the devil also says, oh, crap, Jodi got up today. She's gonna glorify that God

Patti Davis:

I love this. I love this. But yeah, Jesus, and I want you to meditate on that. Um, as you get ready for the Christmas holidays, put some of the gift wrap away, the glitter, the lights, the, all that, and just focus on the fact that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit. What a beautiful, the best gift ever given to us, and the only God that's given his people this gift. Then 33 years later, and we'll get there come this spring, we'll be in Acts, and we'll talk about how Jesus, he ascended into heaven after his resurrection, and he left the Holy Spirit with us to dwell where? To dwell in us. Believers. Why

Jodi Howe:

do we not meditate on the dwelling of the Holy Spirit? Tap into

Patti Davis:

it.

Jodi Howe:

Tap into it. Every single second. And I just feel like sometimes I need like this little reminder in front of me. Oh, the Holy Spirit's dwelling in you. Guess what? Why are you in that place of fear? Why are you in that place of anxiety? Why are you struggling? Why are you feeling like you cannot handle this impossible thing that is placed in front of you? We serve a possible God that has the dwelling of the Holy Spirit inside of us. You know something? Yep.

Patti Davis:

Yeah. And then the Holy Spirit is right here too. And he's

Jodi Howe:

right there, the breathing word of God. Oh my goodness. Pages open up.

Patti Davis:

Oh my goodness. He

Jodi Howe:

does speak to us. He does. He really does. He does speak to us through the Holy Bible. Well, and that's

Patti Davis:

why, you know, we'll always refer to the Bible as often as we can, but it's the living word. So if you're reading the Bible recreationally, then no wonder you're not pulled to it, you're not drawn to it, you're not interested in it. But when it becomes personal,

Jodi Howe:

It becomes, yeah.

Patti Davis:

It becomes very personal. Um, that's a gift that we have then. And again, if it doesn't make sense, then you have to find out just how much of Christ do you have in you. Right. If not, you read, we talked about it, you know, last month that we're reading somebody else's mail when we're reading that Bible.

Jodi Howe:

I've been listening to our podcast like all the time. I'm a nerd. I have our own podcast. And when you said that, I'm the, I'm the only one listening. No, no, there's tons of people listening, but it was so beautiful. How you said that I'm reading someone else's mail. And I wanted to, I think I'm glad you brought this up because we are Holy spirit driven in this podcast. So we have notes, we are, we are, we prepare, but then we allow the Holy spirit to come through. I wanted to help you. The listeners because I felt like I'm this is a multi generational conversation where this is a woman who has been through everything And it has just almost everything. I'm a few years behind her I have some mentees under me that are Several years behind me when you say I'm reading someone else's mail I didn't want the listeners to think that this mail is not ever going to be Possibly not going to be addressed to you. It's just, can you explain a little more into how that, because I'm telling you, you know, me, I don't, when we started this podcast, I would go and read the comments of people's Instagram reels, Tik TOK reels of anything faith based. And I'm trying to get the conversation around that to help people who have questions relating to faith. That's why we started this. So I know that there's going to be somebody that says, well, God just doesn't want to mail his Bible to me. Okay. You know, he doesn't want to what? He doesn't want to mail his Bible to me. He doesn't think that I'm worthy of having this word because I've lived in sin, I've lived in shame, I've lived in bondage. It's like, because when you had said that, he goes, this is relating to your brother who's a mechanic, like everything is laid out for him as a mechanic and the books and the things that he reads and he's noticed because the knowledge is there because it's his wheelhouse. But I wanted to reiterate to everyone, This is everybody's wheelhouse. It's a matter of who wants it or not. It's every believer's wheelhouse. Believer's wheelhouse. But even a non believer can have this as their wheelhouse. If they want, but they have to, they have to take some steps. Can you speak into that? Oh, okay. It's just, it will help people, right? Because I know that's what

Patti Davis:

separates us from being a recreational reader.

Jodi Howe:

Yeah. Are you

Patti Davis:

coming to attack the word? Are you coming to deconstruct the word?

Jodi Howe:

Yeah.

Patti Davis:

I mean, who in the world are we? This is the living word of God. This is how personal our God is. Jody. He left us notes. He left us notes. Years, you know, thousands of years ago, it was stories. The stories of God were passed down generation to generation, fathers to sons, fathers around the table to mothers, mothers to their daughters. So we, we cherish it and we pass the story on. Now, once Jesus came, the Messiah to complete the Old Testament and now living the New Testament. These are our notes. This is a wonderful thing. This is a wonderful book. to have. But now, it won't make sense if you don't believe. And have accepted God as your Savior, Jesus Christ as your Savior, who died and rose again, um, to leave the Holy Spirit, who will guide you through. It's a living Word. It's just not another piece of literature. It's too old. It has lived too long. It's not, we're trying to rearrange deconstruct this. Because inside of this, people, do you know what runs in between the lines? My personal testimony.

Jodi Howe:

Yeah, yeah, I'm into that.

Patti Davis:

So yeah, you may throw down and want to debate me theology, the Greek, the Hebrew, go ahead, you know, um, knock yourself out, but then we're going to get, when I get to have the last word with you, I'm going to tell you the testimony. I was 13 years old and going to kill myself. And I picked up the Word of God and opened it, or it fell open to Psalms 139,

Jodi Howe:

Psalms 139 for you,

Patti Davis:

where I was fearfully and wonderfully made. It has walked me away from suicide. It has kept me in marriage. It has helped me a good, be a good mother. It has helped me honor my mother and father. It has settled me when I was shaken. It has stirred me and I'm in awe.

Jodi Howe:

Yeah.

Patti Davis:

Don't make it a work book. It's a living, amazing book. So many people

Jodi Howe:

are really trying to deconstruct it. I never saw anything like won't make sense

Patti Davis:

without the Holy Spirit. That's the key. Thank you. Okay, so we can

Jodi Howe:

come back to this. And I also want to say, too, that, you know, my favorite scripture, which is Philippians 4, verses 6 through 7, I have a lot of favorite scriptures, but that living scripture is what, Helped me get through a panic attack at three o'clock in the morning.

Patti Davis:

Ah, there you go. Do not be anxious

Jodi Howe:

about anything. But in everything, in prayer and petition, give your request to God, and a peace that surpasses understanding. I said that in one of our other episodes. So did you just read it

Patti Davis:

academically, or did it pierce you? Oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, I was, it was

Jodi Howe:

three o'clock in the morning, I'm thinking I'm having a heart attack. I had gotten a flu. full health workup. There is no reason in the world why I would have a heart attack. And I, I just could, but you can't panic attacks don't just go away just like that. Of course now I've learned how to manage them. I don't even get them. And if I get them, I know how to work through them. But in the times where I was working through the healing process with my book, the earth that I breathe, I would go into that scripture to Philippians four, verse six through seven. It breathed into me peace. Ah, so I wanted to just add onto what you said about how thank you. The Lord saved you from your own free will of taking your life and brought you into Psalms 1 39 3 9 9.

Patti Davis:

Yep.

Jodi Howe:

Yep. You are fearfully and wonderfully made.

Patti Davis:

Isn't that amazing? We are

Jodi Howe:

all our fearfully, wonderfully made in the image of God. How do we get the image of God through what? The Holy Spirit,

Patti Davis:

right? Spend time with them. Spend time with them. Yep. Yeah. My children, you know, um, I mean, you watch my ex husband walk and then there's one of my children that look like him and you've all seen a parent, a daughter that walks and talks like mama, a son that walks and talks like dad. You start to take on the one that you're with the most. So I like this again. It's alive. It's well, it's healthy. It's beautiful. The Holy Spirit is amazing. Yeah. But what a gift. What a gift. What a beautiful gift. What a beautiful gift.

Jodi Howe:

What are some kind of things that people can take away with and how to feel that they can connect to the Holy Spirit like they connect to God, like they connect to Jesus? Because we were talking about this prior to recording this episode where I had said that I walked in a faith. And it was a faith that was a religion where I would go into these beautiful Cathedral churches and Jesus was hanging up on the cross.

Patti Davis:

Okay,

Jodi Howe:

and He was there relevant physically relevant to everyone yet Nobody ever said to me you need to build a relationship with him. And although there was a physical tangible sign that we would Okay. We would practice a ritual. Okay. I never understood. I understood the father. I understood the son, but I didn't understand this.

Patti Davis:

The Holy Spirit. Yeah.

Jodi Howe:

You're looking at me because you were raised in that faith. You're like, what are you doing? Oh, you Catholics, you all know what I'm doing. But I didn't. Okay, I'm going to have to

Patti Davis:

scratch my

Jodi Howe:

nose in know the Holy Spirit part of it. I didn't know that.

Patti Davis:

That's what's so enriching. And there's a lot of religions that won't even acknowledge the Holy Spirit. He's energy. Yeah. He's energy. No, he's alive and well. He's a being. He's a, he's a he, you know, don't want to mess with anybody pronouns, but it just for talking about all humanity and stuff, you know, no, no, there's no other God has placed his spirit in his people. Do you understand that? Yes. Thank you for nobody. No other other God. There's a lot of demigods out there that you have to serve and you hope you make it. And I heard, uh, you know, I've heard from so many that that love the that serve their God. Lord means Jesus Christ, but God, demigod, they're serving them diligently, but they still are just hoping that they make it. They're hoping, you know, yeah. How do you

Jodi Howe:

live like that? Oh, now I know I'm going to heaven. Yeah, yeah. I am going to heaven and this is my disclaimer right here, right now, ladies and gentlemen who are watching this, I am going to heaven. Why? Because I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. He is in my heart and I have surrendered my life to him. There it is. And what, what,

Patti Davis:

have you surrendered the yucky parts? The sin parts?

Jodi Howe:

Oh, yes. Oh, okay. I'm doing my best to try to do that every single day. I'm not perfect in that. But yes.

Patti Davis:

Yeah, but don't make it so much labor. The more you're filled with him, the easier it is. You know. But I

Jodi Howe:

thank you for saying that. When you say that, we, that's, that's a huge part of the gift.

Patti Davis:

Oh my goodness, yes, yes.

Jodi Howe:

So he left us a little something behind to utilize in this everyday messy world.

Patti Davis:

Isn't that something? But again, let's go back to the Christmas story since we're in the Christmas season. No, no, no, this is good. Because I

Jodi Howe:

get my

Patti Davis:

Christmas from Hallmark, but

Jodi Howe:

we're not supposed to go there. You told me I'm not

Patti Davis:

allowed to go to Hallmark. Yes, because Hallmark. Oh, the Hallmark channel. We can I just need to watch the movie!

Jodi Howe:

Because, Patty, I need to find out of all the people made

Patti Davis:

out of cream cheese. Their home's in order, their budget for home decor is ridiculous. It's,

Jodi Howe:

okay, Dina, I'm kind of jealous of you. Nobody's shopping at Hobby Lobby or

Patti Davis:

Target there, so.

Jodi Howe:

I promise you this. I'm jealous of you. I am a very, very over Christmas decorator, but I will promise you this. The spirit of the Lord is

Patti Davis:

there. Please. That's what we're after. It

Jodi Howe:

wasn't years ago, but it is now. Okay. I'm gonna still watch my christmas movies because I just you

Patti Davis:

go girl I really believe that that

Jodi Howe:

beautiful godly man is gonna knock on my door Because I sold the farm and he somehow has the funds to fund it I don't know. I'm just kind of coming up with a crazy reason you've ever watched one of those movies Oh, they're so predictable Yeah, okay. Yeah, i'm okay

Patti Davis:

Anyway, we chased a rabbit there. But anyway, let's go back. Let's get spiritual again. And so we're talking about the Holy Spirit had a role. Jesus was conceived. And then he walked and he filled. And then Jesus definitely needed his counsel and his encouragement and his resources. The Holy Spirit, listen to this. The Holy Spirit, prior to Jesus's birth, would visit. And come to people, like you did Mary and others, there's so many stories in the Old Testament, he would come and visit you. He would visit you. So he, but then after Jesus came, then he moved into his ministry and he died and he rose again and he ascended and left the Holy Spirit. Now we have a Holy Spirit that inhabits his people. He doesn't have to visit us anymore through another deity or another messenger. He speaks, he's as close as a whisper, Jodie. Yeah. Isn't that beautiful? It is so

Jodi Howe:

beautiful.

Patti Davis:

No more visitational. What happened through Jesus Christ's birth gave us access and now he inhabits his people. And I rely on it. I rely on it. He's as close as a whisper. Isn't that nice? Yes. That means you don't have to run to a church if the door's locked or you don't have to wait for your pastor. You don't have to wait for all the planets to line up just right. Yeah. The Holy Spirit is closest. Okay. And

Jodi Howe:

you're, you're, you're touching a nerve with that. I'm just going to say, and I love that you're doing it. I love that you're doing it, but I've had this conversation. Now you're not touching. Never. She did not touch nerves with me. Well, she did yell at me earlier this week. That was a whole nother conversation. Yeah. She is such a, such an incredible, incredible pillar of wisdom. But I'm going to tell you right now, there are people that absolutely believe if they don't walk into a setting where they're going to get the. Blood and body of Christ in some kind of ritual, they do not have the Holy Spirit in them because when I came to Christ and I moved down south to North Carolina and I started to walk with the Lord, I had had a friend that I was speaking to back up north that was still in the different in the faith that I am no longer a part of and she could not understand how I'm not going to church two, three times a week in order to have Jesus in me. It was a dialogue back and forth and I was still an early Christian too, so I didn't know how to really have a dialogue with her about it. I know now I understand it. But you just really said something very profound. We're not ever dismissing church. You love your church. I'm great with my church. Oh, I adore it because it's a family to me. It's family. It is so important. But I think it's really more critically important to understand than if I don't go to church for three weeks. It does not separate me. That was so liberating, because I was raised in a

Patti Davis:

denomination that you had to be there Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday, and then, oh, we'd have camp meetings for a week, and, and then we had to dress just right, and we were low income, and so, whoo, when I was able to break away from that and come to one that was just, it was more this come as you are, which is what Jesus did. He, you know, he didn't have the robes and the fancy synagogues or anything. He had sandals and he had our clothes on and he walked among us. He's so, um, approachable and stuff. Yeah. And it really made me feel better because I was uptight. I didn't have all the dresses. The kids had to be groomed just right. And so be able to be able to come as we are. I had the budget. For come as you are.

Jodi Howe:

Wow. Wow. I

Patti Davis:

didn't have

Jodi Howe:

yeah

Patti Davis:

dress it up before you could come in,

Jodi Howe:

you know That makes sense. Yes, it does. Thank you. I think that was a really important point. Okay, very important. Yeah

Patti Davis:

Well, um, let's talk a minute about how no other god has sacrificed for his people So this religion that we celebrate on christmas christmas. This is a festival Um, this is a religion that has been founded in selfless love

Jodi Howe:

selfless love

Patti Davis:

We're celebrating his birth and he came to die.

Jodi Howe:

Yeah,

Patti Davis:

he knew that full well, and I'm in awe of that That's a selfless love.

Jodi Howe:

Selfless love. Yeah, where there's so

Patti Davis:

many and I've tried them all I've searched them all and I had to work so hard And it wasn't even that I felt loved. I just worked so hard so I wouldn't die in hell I worked hard to serve this this demigod so that I would be safe. I Serve my god Because he loves me, I'm in awe, and I want to go to work with him every day. Isn't that neat? Yes. There was that time where I needed him intimately, like a child. I was on God's lap, you know, as the child being healed of all those wounds. And, but I moved from that father, small child to more the, the young adult then. And all and then moved into as the bible talks about just him being my bride my bridegroom Yeah,

Jodi Howe:

I love that. We are so incapable of we strive for it. We try to be, you know, love is patient We don't even comprehend it. We

Patti Davis:

have to take it on by faith. Don't we

Jodi Howe:

really truly do but his is so perfect It's it has no blemish. It is flawless It's so beautiful. And I think that that is so important for those people that may be listening that are dealing with addiction You I don't know why that just came to my spirit, but it did because I know people that have dealt with addiction and i've had my own little It's right, right. Is that the blood of jesus christ? Washes that away And gives us the white of snow. Did I jump ahead? I think no. No, this is good This is good the love of god if you go into that scripture and read about it It's very relevant to how he loves us in a way that is something we aren't capable of doing. We strive for it. I do. I try. I try to be a person of And I wonder who's making

Patti Davis:

us strive. But thank you for bringing up the one who has a messy, gritty life and has chose drugs and stuff. Because it's Satan that will tell you, clean yourself up first, then you can come before God. Yes. And God said, you have no idea what my love will do. I see you before it. I see you after your sin. Get over here. He just says, come as you are, and I'll help walk you out. He's so beautiful.

Jodi Howe:

But Satan wants to

Patti Davis:

keep me away and say, you have, you don't deserve his love. And you know what you need to do? Grow up like I did and just shut Satan up and say, you know, right. I don't deserve his love. Yeah. That's why I'm in awe of it. But it's mine and I'm picking it up.

Jodi Howe:

Miss Patty says Satan is a jerk. So just remember that. If you're in that kind of mood, you can just say Satan, you're a jerk and move

Patti Davis:

on. He's the one that wants to keep you away from the gift of what Christmas is about. Right. Remember, it's God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. This is where redemption started at the birth. Don't you love it? I love it. I love it. All right. Well, how are we

Jodi Howe:

going to close things up? I want to

Patti Davis:

make sure that, you know, we don't get lost in all the, the, the. The tour of lights this year and the mall decorations. I want you to realize, don't be afraid of a simple Christmas. Because think of how he came. The first Christmas, it was fields and flocks and rocks and hills and darkness and hopelessness was on the planet. And then here come this amazing, brilliant light. that came down to us. I just love it. He left His throne. Think about this, what Jesus did. He left His throne, and He wrapped Himself up in our flesh. Um, so that He could know how to conquer. Or He was the example. He conquered every temptation known to man. Right! Yeah. So He came to walk out this example. I was just reading that,

Jodi Howe:

yep.

Patti Davis:

Yeah, even the way He came. Yeah, He conquered it all. It

Jodi Howe:

all! So don't try to get ahead of that and say, But.

Patti Davis:

Yeah,

Jodi Howe:

or he didn't don't dismiss it. You have a high

Patti Davis:

priest He's called our high priest who can sympathize with us because he's tasted it and he's tested it and he had the holy spirit who? Conceived him helped him maintain his stance gave him endurance gave him wisdom He spoke his father's words. We get to do that. We get to do that We get to have our father's vocabulary if my father was german I would be speaking German fluently. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is my heavenly father. So I need to be able to speak the truth in this word. Oh, this is good. Thank you, Jodi.

Jodi Howe:

This is so great. No, thank you, Patty. This has been so much fun. We are so excited. We've got episode seven coming up. And you know what? Keep coming back. Listen, we're going to have ways that you can ask us some questions. If there's things that we can sort of discuss. In the new year. We want. To give you information and content that is relatable to what you're dealing with. So please don't be shy. Give us your questions. Give us your comments. And you all are loved. And that's the beauty of our God. So we will catch you next time on Heartbeat of a Woman.