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77 | Uncle Tics Cancellation, Should You Quit Or Stay At Your Job

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The boys talk about what happened to uncle tics and his cancellation and why content creation is one of the riskiest job due to potentially being canceled for the wrong thing.

They also talk 5 reasons why you should quit your job but also reasons why you should stay in your job. Remember you don't always have to stay in the same job for the rest of your life.

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SPEAKER_03

One one thing, huh?

SPEAKER_02

Photosynthesis.

SPEAKER_00

One thing that I do want to ask is what is long green and smells like pork?

SPEAKER_02

Ah. What a sausage.

SPEAKER_00

Kermit's cock.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_00

I was thinking Shrek's cock, so welcome back to the Interstate Podcast. Nico.

SPEAKER_02

Megasaur ass.

SPEAKER_00

Why are yours gay? Well what's a gay joke? Comit's not gay. He's he's not a real being. He's an he's a figure. I had this. That's right. Um, yeah, what else you got? You said you said you had a few more.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I had another gay joke, but now I'm I'm second guessing I know.

SPEAKER_03

I forgot the original one and then I remembered the dinosaur one, but I can't remember the the original gay joke.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you we did do an episode a fair few weeks ago where well not fair few weeks, a long, long time ago where you just had a bunch of dad jokes.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I still have that.

SPEAKER_00

And they're well, you shouldn't you need to get rid of them. Why?

SPEAKER_03

They're disgusting. They're recyclable.

SPEAKER_00

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_03

You just wait a couple months and boom, hit them again.

SPEAKER_00

Ew. Ew. I want to jump on to so recently I don't know if you've heard, you know who uh we do Uncle Tix is.

SPEAKER_02

We do, we do.

SPEAKER_00

If you haven't heard of him, so before I get started into this, he has gotten hit his account back. But when I first saw uh this whole thing going down, so if anyone doesn't know who Uncle Tix is, he uh is an influencer or content creator that has uh Tourette's and his Tourette's is like a certain type of there's multiple types of uh Tourette, but his is like more vocal and they kind of he like flicks his head back and does like muscles of yeah yeah yeah and he was on live stream and he said the N-word so it was it was a tick that he can't like help and something would have I'm sure uh made it uh what's the word say yeah because well it's probably because someone put it in the yeah uh the chat or you know it's always popping up and if you have let's be honest, there's a high chance that you're just gonna like especially if he has like the vocal vocal side, he's just gonna be spamming. Yeah, he just says essentially anything that he reads.

SPEAKER_02

Do you reckon we can get a free shout out like that? We'll just start spamming his chat.

SPEAKER_00

What the hell? He's gonna say it at some point, right? Say the N-word. Oh no, our name. Yes, kind of clicked on when you said free shout-out. No, because it's something apparently it's something that like so the way his works is his tourette's will attack something that you actually can't uh say or do. So like swearing. Yeah, so like swearing, or if you're cooking or something and you have um Oh, yeah, yeah, where he throws eggs and stuff, yeah, throw eggs under the roof, or like I don't necessarily think like knives, like I think he's got pretty control with his knives, but um yeah, it was it was something where um he's he said the N-word and then uh TikTok banned his account. So he had something like five point something million uh followers, and it took him seven years to or 4.7 million followers on his platform, and it took him seven years to to uh create that, and that was his income. So yeah, so luckily, thank God, Uncle Tix's account back. Shout out Uncle Tix, you're an absolute weapon. Uh he's funny as he's down to earth, but he um when he posted his thing, it kind of got me thinking like we do talk about tradies uh and different types of jobs, and I've joked about the whole like content creation being probably one of the hardest. Yeah, and when I say that, it's not necessarily hardest as in like physical, but mental. It's uh it's one draining, and two, it's so risky. Like, I essentially have to like go through all the videos that we make and make sure, like, even though I love dark humour and I love doing all that type of stuff, it's something that you're gonna do. Exposing yourself?

SPEAKER_02

What do you say on camera that you're not proud of?

SPEAKER_00

There's a lot that I have to delete and put in the archives for the day where either I have to use it against I hope you know I have a blackmail folder on that laptop of you. Of mine or to me's yours on mine, um yeah, so but yeah, I obviously love dark humour, that's why I kind of love his stuff because it's he says some stuff, but he kind of he's almost like allowed to get away with it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, how would you not be allowed to get away with it if it's like an uncontrollable thing? Like it to a degree it makes sense, but it's like you know, like you get someone with Parkinson's to build a wall. Is it gonna be that straight?

SPEAKER_03

Did you expect that to happen? Yeah, how could we pre have prevented this?

SPEAKER_00

And you can't blame him for it either.

SPEAKER_02

It's not like he can just be like, all right, let's just stop shaking.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, it was it was kind of one thing that kind of got me thinking like content creation, look like I was saying before, it's not necessarily like physically demanding, but mentally it's draining, and it's like also the risky. It's like you have to go through all your content and you gotta think about the things that you're you're saying. Like Stevie, in uh one of our episodes, I don't know if any of you've uh watched it, but uh made the joke of like oh she called me the n-word, and then she said the n-word.

SPEAKER_03

Are you you damn cancel her? Let's bring cancel her.

SPEAKER_00

No, so I actually kept it in there, but I muted her voice. But you can tell what she said because of my reaction. And the reason why I kept it in there is because it's like it's funny. It's like she didn't say it out of like hate or like anything like that, but it's also loud today, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I think just because your Instagram feed is cursed.

SPEAKER_00

I think all of ours are to me, as I know, are just dogs. Have you seen the reels that I've been sending you? Yeah, the ones that I've liked already. Right. I was I was just I was doom scrolling, and all of a sudden this dog video popped up, and it looks like a pug that has its eyes sucked out with like a plunger, but they're just like chilling, and he's like talking to his dog normally, and his dog's uh facing the other way, and then he just like as this dude starts talking, this pug turns around, catches you so off guard because his dog's eyes are almost hanging out, and he's just talking to him just like a normal person. It is so funny, just funny dog videos, man.

SPEAKER_01

They're the best. It is I can't believe your feed isn't filled with them.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it is now. Hell yeah, brother.

SPEAKER_03

Hell yeah, brother.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, no, so it kind of it kind of got me thinking like at what point like what is allowed and what isn't allowed, like I think probably racism's not allowed, and that's I would say but a lot of people have are you trying to justify it right now?

SPEAKER_01

Are we talking specifically in regards to Tourette's?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean you can't stop them for you can't punish them for anything.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they say it's like an an an itch that you have to scratch, there's nothing you can do about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's not a conscious decision, is it? So it's not racist. The the things they say are considered racist, but they're not, you know, they don't, they're just saying things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like that how does that work though? Like, you know, if I accidentally shoot your foot No, because you're conscious and you can stop yourself from But I had Parkinson's and back to this argument.

SPEAKER_01

That's interesting though. Are there like in America gun laws around people with compulsive um I'm pretty sure they give everybody conditions? Yeah, because it's like if you have Tourette and you are holding a loaded weapon, then you could surely off yourself. Oh yeah, you could do anything without thinking about it. Because it all happens like that, you can't stop it. So there must be like gun laws. Like if you have this kind of condition, you can't handle a weapon.

SPEAKER_02

I'm pretty sure in America when you turn 18, they just give you a gun.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I think it's 21.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I think some states it's even younger.

SPEAKER_02

Born with it.

SPEAKER_00

You're just born with a gun button. Um, well, I mean, the drinking age in America is 21, unless they've changed it, but I don't think I'm pretty sure you can buy a gun like that. I think you can buy a gun before you can drink. That is that's so backwards. Anyway, anyway, that's fucking backwards.

SPEAKER_01

What about like driving as well? Can you drive with Tourette's?

SPEAKER_00

I think I'm gonna do that. That's a good point. I think he drives. Well, it depends on how compulsive your disorder is, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

I wonder if it's like a like do you I this is my how do you develop Tourette? Is it like that one episode of South Park where Cart Cartman? Cartman? What's his name? Cartman, the Falcon, yeah. Yeah, it like just says was on his mind, says he has Tourette's has Tourette's, and then he has to learn how to like control his speaking again.

SPEAKER_01

So it says here driving with Tourette's is generally safe because the intense focus required for driving temporarily reduces ticks, so it takes almost your brain away from thinking about the ticks. Yeah, like some people may have like head ticks and stuff like that, but it's generally safe.

SPEAKER_00

So the focus. So okay, so if your if your mind is more focused on something else and not your not your Tourette's, then it kind of goes away. It's almost like I'm not comparing it to stutter everybody to read gun rules. Um, like I'm not I'm not comparing stuttering to Tourette's, but it's it's very similar. Like I can, it's not necessarily like a movement, but it's a speech thing where uh you can say the word multiple times uh without stuttering, and as soon as you focus on your stuttering, it becomes more prevalent. So like, and that was something that I I suffered with for so long. Or if I'm hungry, even like if I'm hungry, I I will stutter a lot, and it's not necess necessarily something that I'm like, I'm not actively thinking about the stuttering, but like when I'm excited, I'm hungry, uh horny, even I just start stuttering.

SPEAKER_03

You like that?

SPEAKER_00

I'm trying to tell her that I'm about to bust, but I'm just like and then I bust, and then it's just one of those things where that they have to deal with it.

SPEAKER_03

What was that?

SPEAKER_00

That wasn't even stutter. See, a lot of people someone's about to get fucked in here. I don't know who, but yeah, it's um the whole like social media thing, like the whole Tourette's thing and him getting banned, it's fucked up. I I don't think he should have. It's good that he got his thing account back.

SPEAKER_02

I agree. I reckon, yes, it's fair game to ban him, but good that they unbanned him because it Yeah, I think situations like these need man more manual review, right?

SPEAKER_01

A lot of these bans happen automatically, or you know, there'll be measures in place on TikTok. If you're live streaming and you receive a certain amount of reports within a certain amount of time, it probably just automatically bans you because the system goes, we don't have time to manually review. Obviously, something's wrong, let's just ban it. We'll review it later. And I feel like it's probably just something like that has happened. Yeah, you know, and after manual review, they've unbanned him, so there's no issue with it. I think that's fine.

SPEAKER_02

When do you think we're gonna get banned?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think we'll ever get banned. Oh, I mean, I just so you know, I was actually thinking about this uh today for some reason. I'm never gonna do an apology video. I already have, yeah, but that was because you drank alcohol during your um no alcohol drinking sobriety stage. Yeah. But I'm not gonna apologize again. But uh the the reason why I don't think we'll get banned, one is because I think we have a lot more common sense than a lot of people do.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I think the fame's gonna go to your head.

SPEAKER_00

My head. It's already gaunt to Nico's. That's why we had to cancel him.

SPEAKER_03

Catch his trays.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I don't think I don't like I I think you were saying something the other day, Nico, like something about going out and like, do you think like when you go out in public, like, do you think about who's seen our videos and stuff? I don't, I don't I hope they haven't. Yeah, I don't know. I just don't think about it like that way. I because I see the numbers, I'd I'd it's so hard to think of the numbers as people.

SPEAKER_02

Do you go out there and think, yeah, like when people come up to you and they ask you, is it hard work? What do you tell them being an influencer?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I would say, well, first of all, I would say I'm not an influencer, but secondly, I would say yes, it's hard. Because it is hard. It's not it's not necessarily. I think the fact that I think it's hard is because I work a full-time job as well as do this. And which one would you say is harder out of those? It's so different though, because like it's comparing it's the complete opposite not apples and oranges, it's like apples and anvil. Like fro frogs and toads.

SPEAKER_02

No, they're the same.

SPEAKER_00

They're both frogs. Not snav on. Um sorry. See, when it comes to content creation, like I would say that they're both the complete opposite because trade is and like and our job, it's more physically demanding than mentally. Content creation is more mentally demanding than physical, so it's the two complete opposites. So like, and I was thinking also today when I was coming over here, is that I think I've gotten to a stage where like I like that my brain is always ticking, like it's always thinking about stuff. It's not like so. When I came back Thursday, I I didn't have anything to do because you were working, we couldn't film skits, um and I kind of just sat there and did fuck all. And I I think I needed that.

SPEAKER_02

You do need that, especially if you're trying to do the juggling between the so what do you do for Intersect Podcast? What do I do? Yeah, well, actually, I um supply studio. I'm I supply that's that's what now, huh?

SPEAKER_00

What did you gonna say, Pussy? Bro, got me. Yeah, if you keep talking like that, you're gonna end up like Ken. Who's Ken? Ken, this ball's fit in your mouth. That's good. You should spend on the table. I know. I'm so glad that I got that. I was thinking about it today. So um, yeah, no, it was it's just one of those things where like I think because I've been doing it for so long, if I have a day where I don't do anything, I feel like I'm not doing enough.

SPEAKER_02

It sucks, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I think I've gotten to the point where it's like I like that I'm continuously thinking about the companies and thinking about this stuff and how we can improve, how we can do better, as well as like I can go to work and still think about this and then that kind of but I still can't I've been wanting to say this word for a while. Correlates, correlates. Cororelates, cororrelates, correlates? Correlates, there you go. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03

You put the double R in, and I thought there was a double R. Ror. Rot roll raggi.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Alright, well, would you quit one to do the other?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I would quit my trade to immediately. Yeah, absolutely. If someone came to me and said, or if we ended up making the same amount that I'm making now at my job in content creation, absolutely 100%.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I think that's a really good point to take us on to what else would it take for you to quit your job, or four reasons why you should quit your job.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so well one reason I'd quit my job is fucking to do this. But so that's a good reason. I like that. Yeah, so that is but that's because it's something that I want to do. That doesn't mean like I I wouldn't sit here and tell someone like yo, quit your job and start and start making content, because it's like I've been doing it for two year almost two years, and I'm only just now starting to like kind of understand things, it is very complex, yeah. So it takes time. But one one other thing that because I uh through my apprenticeship, I was working for an absolute piece of fucking arsehole. And one thing that I've always wanted to tell people is that if your boss or the company that you're working for is treating you like garbage for like you're your own person, so you know what you're doing. If they're treating you like garbage and not um doing the things by the law, or like it's either like physically or mentally straining, quit your job.

SPEAKER_02

Like there's always other companies out there, or at least you don't have to quit your job, but speak up. Yeah, like you work with a lot of arseholes, like call them out.

SPEAKER_00

I was one of them. I did speak up, and it kept happening. No, well, I mean, yeah, I am also one of them.

SPEAKER_02

Um, and it kept happening, kept happening. Fair works, went to fair works, what'd they say?

SPEAKER_00

So that was going on for a year, and I cancelled it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's wild to think about you. It's an impact. That's why a lot of people stay in places they don't want to be. Yeah. But you know, if it's getting treated like trash, right?

SPEAKER_00

If it it it fucked with my head mentally, like I was I wasn't at my worst then, but I think that's when like anxiety attacks started kicking in because like I knew I was getting fucked over, but I couldn't do anything about it. Well, I could, but I didn't. So that's why I I I want to suggest like if you if this stuff is uh happening in you to you and your boss is treating you like absolute garbage or not listening to mind you, if you're being an asshole like worker, yeah. If it's all fair, yeah, then that's kind of on you. Like you can't just be like, oh fuck you, like you're not listening to what I'm saying, even though you're right. It's kind of like, alright, all right, kiddo, relax.

SPEAKER_02

Were there any other reasons that made you want to leave? He was just an asshole.

SPEAKER_00

Like I knew from multiple people that he he his own son took him to court. If that doesn't tell you what type of person he is, then it's kind of yeah. But yeah, there were there is a lot of other reasons that I won't go into, but um yeah, I just didn't.

SPEAKER_01

It sounds like you had reasons to stay as well.

SPEAKER_00

He did. Well, I mean, yeah, I had kids and like you were doing your apprenticeship?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the apprenticeship might have got a even though you can tell the situation sucked, it's worth grinding it out.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because it was also like it it was a stable income that I had. Plus, it was also like I can't just like up and leave because I got kids, I got a house, I got a mortgage.

SPEAKER_02

You've got commitments, you can't just drop what you're paying for.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and uh mind you, I did I reached out to heap heaps of other other companies and said, Hey, like, would you take me on and like transfer my apprenticeship? But because they already had apprentices that I was actually going to tafe with, they didn't they couldn't, or they could, but they just didn't.

SPEAKER_01

It's rare that anyone can be in a position where they can just leave their job without preparing, you know what I mean? I feel like you need you to give yourself eight months plus if you know you're in a bad position and you want to leave. I feel like it takes six to eight months of planning. If you're in a full-time career kind of move.

SPEAKER_00

That was that was something that I that I did want to say. It's like you can't just like you can't make the decision there and then to be like, all right, cool, I'm quitting and then leave. Like once you in your head have made that decision to leave the job, stay in the job for however long it takes until you find uh an employer or someone that will take you on from a certain date. So then it's just one to the other. Like you can just leave.

SPEAKER_02

Like anyone can leave their job like willy-nilly, but you needn't have a backup plan, you can't just be jumping out of a job and then hoping to find something in time. It is hard, especially if you're jumping from apprenticeships. I know everyone says that everyone needs apprentices and stuff, but then a lot of places will see that you're leaving a former employer or see and like ask what's happened, and then if things didn't go down well, it could affect your chances of getting in. Like I know people who have transferred apprenticeships and it's set them back a year. Like it just happens because it goes, oh, mid-year, TAFE doesn't repeat, we're not gonna keep you in that year of TAFE, so you're gonna go back and redo it. Yeah. So, you know, there's reasons to stay, like when you're doing an apprenticeship to help just carry out and make sure you don't get set back. There's nothing worse than being pushed back a year, two, maybe even three.

SPEAKER_00

Four, maybe.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, then no, let's be honest, nobody wants to be the fourth year apprentice or the the fifth year apprentice, or even sixth.

SPEAKER_03

Seventh, sorry, seventh year apprentice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no one and that's one thing they look at is why, like, obviously, like you said, your resume, people can see that employers will look and be like, Hmm, he's done it multiple places. Yeah. Which, you know, fair enough, some things happen. Like I've known people who started one place, the company shut down, they moved. There's nothing like, you know, against that.

SPEAKER_00

One of the Other things was like if you if you've started your apprenticeship and you're six months in and you just hate the fucking job, there's no I don't think there's any point staying into it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh if you that's why work experience is a thing. Yes, it might not be the hundred percent realistic, but it's the don't do a year of work experience at six different workshop mechanic workshops. Go do a month as a sheet metal, go do a month as a carpet layer, go do a month as a chippy, go do a month as a mechanic. Try every like option that you think you might want to do before you commit to anything. I know people who've dropped out to do apprenticeships who end up just don't like it at all. Yeah, it's a waste of four years of your life. Yeah, you may as well jump across to something else. Like I've known people, yeah, did did a year, quit. This nothing, and I've also known people who have done their apprenticeship or started six months in or whatever. No, not for me, left to go back to what they were doing. A year later, come back, said, Hey, look, I do realize this is what I want to do. Can I get in? Yeah, sure, but it's gonna restart.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Fine.

SPEAKER_00

Which yeah, which is a fair point.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like if they're happy to take you on, like there's no problem, you can always come back. Like you can try it, not a fan, leave, try other stuff, and then be like, that was actually what I wanted to do. There's no shame in coming back, or even going to another workshop and be like, hey, did this, wasn't sure of what I wanted. Here we are now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there's definitely no uh no reason why you shouldn't try you not every job because I mean you can, but yeah, you should have an idea of what you want to do.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, like you know, there's no point like the for example in my old work, we've got the apprentice on at the moment, he went and did sheet metal. No, he did I think plumbing as well, or no, I think it was just sheet metal, maybe another thing as well, and tried all that before he came to be a mechanic. Because it was like, I'd better go try, and he did like you know, it's like four weeks straight or something of like workshop work at uh sheet metal or something.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, at what point did you realize you wanted to be a mechanic?

SPEAKER_02

Me? Yeah, it would have been year 11, I think. Yeah, coming towards the end of school when I was on a yeah, end of year 11, starting year 12. Firstly, they cancelled my cert. They said, look, your cert, it doesn't exist anymore, we're not doing it with school, but you're still gonna have to do it. So you just do it on your own, like you just go to TAFE on your own and you sort it. But because you're not doing it through school anymore, you also have to pick up an extra subject. But and then I was like, oh yeah, cool, whatever. This was a cert to and fishing operations.

SPEAKER_00

Fishing operations. What's that?

SPEAKER_02

Basically means you can be a decky and work in the maritime industry with fish or you know Bratavia Marine Coast Institute, whatever it is, BCMI, Bratavia Coast Marine Institute. Mate and fish. Pretty much and seahorses. Yeah, making fish as fuck. And then and because I'd grew up out of stations and worked a lot on cars and motors, and you name it, I was like, oh, yeah, tingle along. Went into automotive, got more into it, and I was like, oh, I think this is what I want to do. Tried to get in straight out of school, got to some like interviews the next day, just didn't get in. And then I went, alright. The chances they normally start at the start of the year, I've got to find something to do in the meantime. I was moving around at the time as well. So then I went to another job and I said, Look, this is I'm I'm here, but I'm gonna leave to go do my apprenticeship. And in the meantime, I was just you know, every weekend and most weeknights I'd spend in the shed working on my car or doing stuff to another car or fixing it up and helping mates.

SPEAKER_00

So what was this? Year 11.

SPEAKER_02

Uh it's through year 12 into the how many porno mags did you have uh up on the wall?

SPEAKER_00

Zero. So I got one now. Are you a real mechanic if you didn't have them back then?

SPEAKER_02

Uh yeah. I believe so.

SPEAKER_00

Don't think so, matt.

SPEAKER_02

Doesn't qualify. Pornomag makes a mechanic shop, does it? Yes.

unknown

Damn.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I got one now. Yeah, it's a 2022 calendar. It's a 2022 brand of it's just a 2022 calendar, but it's just got ladies on it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Any blokes?

SPEAKER_02

No, just ladies. We should get a bloke. One lady per calendar.

SPEAKER_00

I think we should get a uh a bloke one in there.

SPEAKER_02

We should make a calendar.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know. Did you buy the intersect calendar to me?

SPEAKER_00

No. Absolutely not. I would pay people to not buy it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, there's income, fellas. Look at that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

See, one thing that I'll because I was working in retail when I um I actually reached out to because I wanted to be a tiler.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I wanted to do tiling, and because Jupps was next door to Harvey Norman, uh, where I was working, I I went in there first and I was like, yo, like, do you guys have any tiling apprenticeships? And I was like, no, but we have flooring apprenticeships. I was like, oh, what is that? It's like pretty much like tiling, just with different stuff. And I was like, Oh, okay, shit, I'll do that then. Um, and then I didn't hear anything back because he said he was like Ian, you piece of shit. He said he was like keen as, and then like didn't hear anything back for like three weeks. And I was like, Oh, well, I'm not just gonna wait around then.

SPEAKER_02

So did you go talk to him again?

SPEAKER_00

I tried to, yeah. And he because he he's always out doing like measures and stuff, so a lot of the time he wasn't in the shop. Um, and then I went to that's when I went to I called up Choices, they already had someone, and then I called up Waldegal. And then I called that's when I called up that other company um that I went to and yeah, I did my apprenticeship then. But it was just like one thing that I know that I've been through so much uh like mental strain from dealing with asshole bosses, and not there's actually so many good bosses out there. My boss was great, yeah, that people also take advantage of too. But like they'll I don't know, call in sick when they're not sick or have a mental health day or something like that. Or like I feel like if you're just honest with your boss and you're just like, yeah, I'm really not feeling it, a lot of the time they'll be like, yo, easy ass, like come in, like just have a day off and then come in tomorrow. Yeah, honesty is a big thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah towards your boss as well. Yeah, there's no point in lying about it because when you lie, you make it obvious.

SPEAKER_00

Would you lie to your boss?

SPEAKER_02

Would I? Yeah, my current one, yeah. Hell yeah. Aren't you friends with him?

SPEAKER_00

Are you friends with him? Why would you lie to him? I'm so confused. Are you friends with this dude or not?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, um, well, it's weird because I'm on a week on, week off roster. So technically I rotate through all the crews, all the different bosses. Right. So there's like the main big, big, big boss.

SPEAKER_00

Would you lie to him?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Instead of like no, we were talking about Matsus the other day, and it was going like, yeah, he's right. I was like, hell yeah, we should. No, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, right. That's like a little white lie. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_02

What other lies there?

SPEAKER_00

Do you like him?

SPEAKER_02

As a person? Yeah. I don't know. I haven't really had anything to do with him.

SPEAKER_00

Is that a lie?

SPEAKER_02

No.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't know. It's just, yeah, I just feel like there's so many good bosses, but there's also so many bad bosses out there. And I just feel like if you're if you're going through like Certain bad bosses is a reason to leave.

SPEAKER_02

Not liking the job is a reason to leave.

SPEAKER_00

Mental strain or physical strain. I don't know about physical. Like, if he's beaten your ass, then I mean fucking beat his ass back.

SPEAKER_02

But or report it, but yeah, if you call the police or someone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I would yeah, don't hit people. Maybe just report it to the police or to me, and then to me can report it to someone else. Um he's the man in the chair.

SPEAKER_03

Um, one dispatcher.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so those, yeah. So it's like bad bosses if you don't like your job or you're just not feeling your job, just like go out, try something else. And if it was, like you said, it is actually something that you want to do, then jump back into it. There's no issue why you can't. Enthusiasm. Um you reckon pay rate is one because I I I guess you are going into apprenticeships knowing that it's not a good thing.

SPEAKER_02

Is it's all about like all the cool jobs have kind of become low-paying. So no one wants to do cool-ish jobs anymore.

SPEAKER_00

What's a cool job?

SPEAKER_02

Chicken suit outside the red rooster. The side spinner. Doesn't pay well, but it's cool. Or like diving instructor, cool, doesn't really pay that well, does it?

SPEAKER_01

Surely that would be a decent thing. No, is it not? Scuba diving is miserable. Yeah, well, that was my plan when I moved to Australia. I lived in Thailand for six months to get my qualifications, and the plan was to then come work scuba diving in Australia. But living in Thailand, I realized it's dead.

SPEAKER_04

Really?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, it's fun, it's cool. It's a cool, it's a lot, it's a way of life, isn't it? It's a lifestyle, but you just work to support that lifestyle because it's yeah, yeah, you're just diving every day, drinking every night. Yeah, that was like any old school diver that's been doing it for like 40 years, they're running dive shops, they're instructing, they're miserable people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, right. That's like I know originally I wanted to get into marine biology. That's kind of why I went for the fishing ops and was heading that way. And then I was like, damn, there's no jobs and no money. This is no longer cool. Let's be a mechanic. And then I was like, Well, better find another avenue. Luckily, this one that I was getting into actually you can make a little bit of money, so yeah, that's where I've ended up, which is nice, it's a bonus because it's something I really wanted to do anyway.

SPEAKER_04

Still like fishes.

SPEAKER_02

Do I like fishes?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, fishing is why why I wanted to go into why marine biology. You're a fucking child. Do you like fish? Like, what's what's the reasoning for fish?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, speaking about fish, segue, but can I show you guys a video my friend sent me the other day? This is uh locally. They found something at the beach. Jellyfish. And I just want to show you what they found and get your reaction. Is that a shark?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, is it? I got hungry.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, is that a tiger shark? Yeah, yeah. That is a two and a half meter tiger shark with no head.

SPEAKER_02

That was here.

SPEAKER_01

That's at Geraldton, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Low key, someone probably chopped it off.

SPEAKER_01

By the glass ball thing.

SPEAKER_02

Because did you know if you cut off a shark's head, they still bite and everything? It's crazy wild.

SPEAKER_00

That is what does that look clean?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it kind of looks like it's a clinical. Yeah, it's not it's been cut and then fishing. 100% of fishermen's cut that off.

SPEAKER_02

And then they've just eaten it along the way. The other fishes get to it. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_01

Just to come out of the beach. Right, yeah, that's my mate in the video. Yo, shout out your mate. That's crazy. That's wild man. Why I send that to my mates in England because you know, I said I talk to my mates back home, so I send them that like, oh, it's just washed up on the beach, and they're like, Holy shit, what bit the head off the thing that bites off heads? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

What would why would they do that? Come on, Mr.

SPEAKER_02

Marine Biology, why would they not eat in all the fish to try and catch?

SPEAKER_00

It's one shark?

SPEAKER_02

If there's when you're fishing and there's like one pesky shark, they'll just kill the sharks, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01

Sure, are they protected sharks? Like, no, you wouldn't have to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02

Shark colouring was like human things because they used to catch them, just chop fins and throw them. Also, you never felt shark skin? It is wild, huh? It's like sandpaper. Yeah, shark skin. Oh, true. Yeah, like it's aggressive and grippy as hell. So weird.

SPEAKER_01

They did that scuba diving, like stroked a shark while I was there. And it's like holy shit, yeah. It's proper like a cat sandpaper.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Really? That's weird.

SPEAKER_02

The scary thing is like, like I said, if they have no head, the head can still cut.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna out myself here and I'm gonna sound like the biggest fucking bitch, but you hate the ocean, we know. No, no, not that well, yes, that, but holding a fish is so gross. Why slimy? It's just so gross. You just gotta like hook your fingers into like the gills and just like yo, check out my fucking fish. I'm like, I won't do that.

SPEAKER_01

Just holding like a smaller fish, just gripping by the by the throat buttons.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but hold a fish and you can smack someone. Yeah, there's nothing worse than getting slapped with like fish slime and scales. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's fun now. I I used to work at the fisheries. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You would hate that.

SPEAKER_00

It was disgusting. It's fucking foul. Yeah. What's wrong with the fish? It's just gross. It smells like absolute shit. And then you gotta push around all frozen and just rolling around like fucking you when you wake up in out in bed. Yeah. No, you roll around. Yeah, it's just bored. I did the um actually, this is actually uh one of the this is one of the other reasons. Like, I I did this job. I'm it's so bad to say, but I'm so happy this place burnt down.

SPEAKER_03

So the fish was warm, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um I was I was stacking ice there for and I would spend, I'm not even kidding. Like, this was the worst job that I've ever had, and it was stacking ice on a pallet. God for 12 to 16 hours. So I would rock up at four in the morning. I don't know if this math is gonna math, but I would rock up at four in the morning, and then majority of the time I would finish at like nine at night, just being up on a platform, stacking ice, go home, eat, sleep, wake up again. That that was for like three months.

SPEAKER_02

And then eat the breakfast, shit the breakfast, god life is relentless.

SPEAKER_00

And then I remember driving to this thing, I was actually going through Maccas to get a coffee, and uh they were like, Oh, did you see that that place is on fire? And I was like, Nah, that's my dream, and they were just like, nah, it is. I was like, nah, it's not, and I was like, I driving down the like police stop me. I was like, Yeah, you can't go in. I was just like, I'm going to bed, bro.

SPEAKER_02

I'm surprised you didn't give up a camp chair, marshmallow out to full extension.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, I would that was the most miserable, miserable job that I've ever had. But that was like one of them where like if you if you genuinely are just fucking miserable, just leave the job. Like, obviously, try and find a job so you can leave it, like we said before.

SPEAKER_02

But it's nice to have a direction if you're gonna leave.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, just fucking oh my god, I hated that job so much.

SPEAKER_01

I think some people need that kick up the ass to like it's scary to leave the job, but you may not be able to do something new until you make that leap. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's like when people will talk about wanting to go on this trip. Oh, I'd love to go to Japan or whatever, and it's always on the list, and it's like, but you need to just book the flight, you know, just book the flight, just put in your leave or whatever. You got then four weeks at least to work out, you know.

SPEAKER_00

It's funny you say that because I've been wanting I've been saying that I'm gonna go to Japan for the last like four years. Sign bro, book the flight, bro. But the reason why I haven't is because the people that I've been planning on going with are just like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, like the whole like group chat thing, and then you just end up like, oh no, I can't go.

SPEAKER_02

And I'm like, oh, it's not me, by the way.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, JP said from the get-go that he's going with Regan, which is fair because they like the whole like car scene thing, and I'll I want to go for snowboarding and fucking.

SPEAKER_01

But again, that's another thing in the group chat situations you book the flight. If two of you can book the flight, or even just one, it's all it takes, really, and then everyone else will fall in line. But groups are the hardest. I mean, me and my boys do it all the time. We're trying to do a group chat, and we'll just for years talk about oh, look, should we do it this month? Should we do that? And it never because it just needs someone to just book the flight. Actually, book it so that everyone yeah, book a refundable Airbnb so you've got it locked in at least, and then everyone else will jump on board.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's what I've the last year, that's what I've been saying. Like, I'm so January or February next year is is when I'm going. Um booking the flight. If anyone comes with anyone comes with, they come with. If not, I'll do it solo. Yeah, exactly. I'll just go over solo and I'm sure I'll meet people over there. And because that's like one of the things that's also like the whole like main reason for like the intersecting is like change direction. You can like jump and try this new thing, and if it's not your fucking thing, come back and go a different direction or something like that. Cancel culture. I want to talk about that. Well, what's what's cancel culture?

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah. We're just canceling things, everything. You say the wrong thing, cancel him. You did say the word gay, cancel him.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you said the word say it. Say it. You know what? I don't know if we cancel it. Say it, man.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if it's a thing again. Well, that's like, look, I'm I'm gonna say, first of all, black people are the funniest people.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's not where I was going at all.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, I know, but a lot of them are coming out and they're going, yo, it's just a fucking word. Just say it. Like, literally, just say it. Like, it's it's become it's not it's becoming more of a normal now.

SPEAKER_02

Like, how far down the rabbit hole have you gone?

SPEAKER_00

Have you seen there's a streamer that goes around, it's this old white dude, and he's just like, Oh, you know, I'm just like this dude that gets chicks and I'm an N-word. And he and then this old white fella goes, Nah, you're not an N-word with a hard R, and he goes, But then everyone in the comments are just like, that was out of like that was like a genuine thing, like there was no hate behind it.

SPEAKER_02

Like, you can say it as long as there's no hate behind it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

I'm looking around the room, and for reference, there is a lot of faces that uh showing no kind of built different.

SPEAKER_00

Say, no, I'm not gonna say it. I knew it. There's no, there's like bro. I I have uh you you've met Leanne. Say the word. Who's Leanne? You've you've met Leanne. Leanne. Yeah, the American chick. Oh, yeah, yeah, the Native American chick. Some of the shit that I say to her, and I definitely say it to her, but some of the shit that she says it back to like that's the best type of friendship, is like that where you can essentially say anything, like ours, like the whole banter thing.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, say it.

SPEAKER_00

Stop trying to get me to say it.

SPEAKER_03

You're the one that keeps bringing up the tickets coming back.

SPEAKER_01

As soon as you said you wanted to talk about cancel culture, we were just trying to get Thomas to say the N-word. I knew that's all it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_00

Why why are you guys why are you trying to cancel why are you trying to be cancel culture? Why are you trying to change me? To make an apology video, you said you weren't gonna make it. Never. I'd never make one. But no, it's just I don't I have a strong belief that like if if you have mates that are like a different ethnicity or like different colour to you, and you have that banter, bro, fucking say it. But if you're going out and actively trying to be a fucking asshole to someone's face, you're an actual piece of shit. That's that's my stance on it. You can I reckon you can say whatever the fuck you want, but out of Could you make a new friend using that word?

SPEAKER_03

It's not out of hate, but it's out of like pure friendship trying to make a friend.

SPEAKER_01

That's hard because you don't know how they're gonna take it. I don't think that's possible something I would recommend.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I wouldn't recommend I think backtracking, apologize. I'm not backtracking, I would have to get to know the person first. Like I would have never gone up. Like, yo, can I say an N-word?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't I think you need to be invited to drop an N-word. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

It's just like a touch. No, I think if you ask and they say no, and then after a year, they go No, it's when they call you the N-word, you're like, all right, game on now. You're like, yeah, yeah. It's just I just don't think like people take offense to words every single word nowadays. But cancel. I mean, if I'm saying that to you or if I'm saying that to JP, there's no hate behind it, it's just an insult.

SPEAKER_01

What is a worthy, cancelable uh what what can someone do that is worthy of cancellation in the world?

SPEAKER_02

Where it would be like just what is it? Ah, you just cancel everyone's was it was a hell big thing like 10 years ago. I think it still is a big thing, but you used to always hear about this cancel culture. It was like someone did something wrong that offended some, it was always the offending.

SPEAKER_01

This isn't necessarily cancel culture, but it's uh a similar vein, and something that I love is I guess people being held accountable. So it'll be like you know, someone going on a racist rant in a supermarket or whatever, and it's always in America. And they genuinely mean it though. Yeah, yeah. It's somewhat it is an awful person doing an awful thing. Yeah, of course. But they're caught on camera and then the internet just fucking ruins their life. I live for that. When you see like a you see the video on TikTok and you check the comments straight away, it's like their Facebook's tagged, their work is tagged, I'm I'm I'm Googling their business, I'm checking all the reviews. I love that shit.

SPEAKER_00

I I'm 100% with you because there's also so many influences, literally, these people are influencing people, that will eventually they'll get find out that they're having like they've either cheated on their wife or they have essay. Accounts or you know, they they've just done horrible shit and they just get fucking destroyed. Like all the brand deals just get ripped from them, their business goes under, like all their followers, like a mass, mass unfollowing of like some person. I reckon hell yeah. That's the type of shit that you need. But if you're if I get online and I I'm I call JP gay and someone's like, no, uh uh you can't say that's I'll be like, come on, bro, shut up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well this is a tough line, isn't it? Because then everything you're talking about is subjective, right? Because some people may some like you know, if someone's getting cancelled for something, you might be like, oh, just cancelling some people for anything these days, whereas other people are like, no, I'm genuinely offended.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like how but if they're offended by me calling someone else a word, like my best like one of my best mates, then that's I guess that's on them. And that that's why I've always said, like, if you're if you're someone that takes offense to like words or something, I probably wouldn't. And I've got zero, I love the gays. Don't come at me and don't come at me. I'm just saying, I love the gays. I never thought I'd hear it. I love all types of people, and I would never in my life actively go out to someone's face and treat them like shit. I live by the it costs nothing to be nice. But you bet your fucking ass that I'm gonna go over to a JP's house, I'm gonna roast the absolute shit out of him. But I would again, I would never go like you look like that. You look like I was about to take your house.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I was waiting for you to say stuff. No, I just like does not know how to use Dora.

SPEAKER_00

I just feel like people nowadays are starting to get too offended or they have too much control over too much.

SPEAKER_01

I think things have gotten better. I think three to five years ago, council culture and people were way more offended.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it 100% these days, yeah. These days it's way more chill. I do agree with that, but it's still like there's still people out there that are just like, oh my god, you hurt my feelings. But when it was not directed at them at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I reckon I've said this for ages. Supervised bullying should come back. Yeah, I reckon supervised bullying should come back. I bully my kids all the way back.

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes you see people on the internet, and it's like, this is why we need bullying in schools.

SPEAKER_00

I I bully my kids all the time, and it's not out of hate, but it's also it's just out of like fun. And bro, I can tell you now my oldest daughter says some things to me where I'm like, you first of all, you should not know what that is.

SPEAKER_03

She probably watching she's bullying me. She's probably watching the intersect podcast.

SPEAKER_00

So I reckon, um, but again, I would I would never actively go out. Like, I obviously I have my beliefs, but I would never push that shit upon anyone, and I would never actively go out and treat someone like shit. I would never actively go out and try and cancel someone unless they're an actual piece of shit. It's just not, it's not, there's no need for it. There's genuinely no need for it. And you're like, if your boss has been an arsehole to you for no reason, um obviously speak up. Don't just like on the spot, fuck you, I quit. Like, you have to speak up about these things. Was anything that I said in that whole rant back there? Was anything of a bad yeah, several. I'm glad Toomy's here and he can can't like he can cut it out.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I already am on the fly. I'm just like, stop recording, stop recording for a minute, let staff get this out, and then I'll start recording again.

SPEAKER_00

Um, I don't think like there's no there's no hate towards anyone. Uh, I don't have any hate towards anyone, but I think people should be allowed to say whatever they want to say. Freedom speech. That's why most white straight men have podcasts. Because they think that they should that's right.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a good time to close this episode because you're getting closer and closer to saying the N-word. I can feel it.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think it was gonna say I really should say this. No, I would never. I'll uh I would never. All right, so before we end off this episode, there is one thing that I want to do because Shade Iwear have been kind enough to send out our send out um a fair few pairs of pairs for all of us boys to test out, and we've been using these ones for the past week. These ones are brand new because I don't want to show you mine.

SPEAKER_02

Obviously, I'm wearing the the budget version because mine are at work.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but they have uh, and the dude that has this brand, he actually used to be a plumber. So he knows uh what it's like to wear the the um shitty ones that you buy from Bunnings, you know, those everyone knows what they are, the speed dealer ones. Um so he's actually quit his job to focus on these. And let me tell you, the quality, the quality is actually really good. Like they're one thing that I don't like about the other brands is that they they squish on your head, or when you have them up on your head, they push here, and it like genuinely gives you a migraine. These don't. Um, when I first put these on, I thought I looked like an absolute twat. But the more that I wear them, the better I look. So so we're actually working together and we're giving out a fair few pairs of these. So if you want a pair, then comment down safety, and we're gonna pick a fair few winners and give a fair few pairs out. So um, thank you, Shade Iwear. You guys are absolutely amazing. Uh and if you want a pair of these, guess what? They are actually getting released today. So jump on them. Comment down safety, and we're gonna pick a fair few people to give these away to. So thanks, Shade Iwear, you absolutely amazing people. Um, and with that, that's the end of the episode, boys and girls.

SPEAKER_02

I hope you enjoyed. We went on a couple rants, too many, but hey, we got it out of your system. It was good. That's what that's what's important.

SPEAKER_00

Just make sure that if you are in a company or a job that you don't like, there's no harm in trying out a different trade or trying out a different job, or if you are with a boss that is treating you like shit, speak up. Um, and if they don't listen after multiple times of trying to reason with them, then try and find a different company that'll take you on, or um like before you quit, don't fucking don't just quit right there and then you have to try and find something else to yeah, jump onto because in today's day and age the economy is absolute fucking horseshit. So thank you guys for watching. Um make sure you go down below all the forms, all the links to all of our forms of social media are there. Um and uh have an absolute fantastic fucking day, you beautiful people. Peace. Thank you. Thanks for later.