Scream, Breathe, Let Go

Join Dr. Pete & Manny Hernandez & Elena Soboleva- Founders of the quickly growing, Scream Club of Chicago. Manny & Elena discuss their unique approach to tackling life's stressors and stress relief. Scream Club is rapidly growing and has quickly become known as the global movement for release, community & connection. 

Learn more about The Scream Club here: 

https://www.thescreamclub.com/

https://people.com/scream-club-weekly-screams-200-people-exclusive-11788630

Transcript

Meet Manny and Elena

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Hello and welcome back to On Air with Dr. Pete. I'm your host, Dr. Pete Economo, and we have a really cool episode planned today. If you've been here with us for a while, you know that we talk about mental health and tools and things to increase your toolbox so you can manage the inevitable life stressors. Today we have two guests, so we get two for the price of one, that they have their own unique approach for stress relief. And I'm super excited to introduce you to Manny Hernandez and Elena Soboleva. I should have asked you how to say that. You said it right. Did I really? Oh, cool. Uh they're in Chicago, and there are a couple that have founded a very popular uh and quickly growing Scream Club. So this has become a global movement, and it's just so cool. And so I know as a listener, you might be saying, what is Scream Club? So I can't wait to introduce you to Manny and Elena. So thank you both for being here.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Yeah, thanks for having us.

SPEAKER_04 1:11

Thank you, Pete.

Personal journeys into mental health

SPEAKER_01 1:12

And I'm glad I got your last name right. Uh I should have I I told you. But anyway, so what is Scream Club? Like we I want to wait before we get to it, right? Because that's what everyone wants to hear. I want to hear more about you both. So, like, how introduce yourself so people get to know who you are. Cool. Uh you're going to start. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

Uh, my name is Elena Soboleva. That's right. Um, well, I'm a personal brand expert, and I uh uh run a community for women entrepreneurs here in Chicago for a couple of years. Um, also big into mental health space, and um, you know, I always say that my mantra is bringing mindfulness to life and business. And that's um, yeah, that's how me and Manny met actually through this mental space.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

Yeah. Wait, so so it's wait, don't leave it at cliffhanger. So, how did you meet through the mental space then?

SPEAKER_04 2:00

Yeah, well, um, you know, for me personally, mental health has been a big journey uh on my own develop self-development. Beautiful. Um, probably since COVID, but that's when I kind of dived into it.

SPEAKER_03 2:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:10

Um and and again try different modalities and tools into my own healing and finding a way that works for me. And um, and I in the past I I've done a lot of social media and uh being a social media kind of expert, I've post a lot of content around mental health, especially mental health in business.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 2:31

Uh, because I'm um you know love supporting women with their mindset on and navigating entrepreneurship. Um and yeah, and one of the videos that I posted on social on Instagram was around something around mindset. I don't remember what I said honestly. It was something about like something about mental health something brilliant, of course. Yeah, yeah. And uh and the video popped up all over in LA, and that's how many saw me first on on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Wow, and it and it helped that she was good looking, so I hit her, I you know, I hit the follow and I was like, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Did you slide into the DMs?

SPEAKER_04 3:08

I did. I'm like, I'm taking this into my hands.

Breathwork, machismo, and emotional release

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Smart lady. That's right, woman power. So so Manny?

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Yeah, so I'm uh Manny Hernandez. I am a uh men's transformational coach, a breath work practitioner, and now the co-founder of the Scream Club. Uh yeah, and and like, you know, very similar to Elena, like I've I've started my self-development journey shortly after um COVID.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Um, you know, I did breath work before that, and um for me that changed my life in terms of like, you know, I get I'm one of those people who is like, you know, you people talk about meditation and they talk about these modalities to kind of help with mental health. And I was, you know, growing up in Jersey and growing up around the machismo, um, I'm I'm Cuban, right? So my my I have a Hispanic, and we have this idea that you know you can't show emotions and you can't feel, and you and you have to be a man and you gotta, you know, whatever. And um, so I went to my first my first breath work class, like completely like, oh, what is this thing that I'm about to do? And walked out of it uh sobbing. And there was that moment where I was like, well, one, what the hell just happened to me? Two, why don't more people know about this? Yeah. And so that's that's what kind of sent me down my self-development journey. I became a certified breathwork practitioner after that, and you know, I was helping a lot of people during the pandemic without with those emotions and like, hey, we don't know what the state of the world is gonna be. Um, and then I started wanting to focus with men because it's like yeah, uh, I went my whole life again repressing emotions and feelings and not understanding, or why do I keep making the same mistake over and over again? Um, and so I started doing some research and reading a lot of books and and trying to figure out what makes me tick and why I ticked the certain way that I ticked in. And that one that kind of led me to the path of like I want to help men get there faster if I can, help them and help them become more self-aware, help them become uh a little bit more emotionally intelligent. Uh help to to help the me from five years ago. Um and then that's that's kind of how you know Scream Club came to be after that.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Well, we're gonna get to that.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

Okay. We'll get to that in a second.

Long distance, slow love, deeper talks

SPEAKER_01 5:21

That that's cool. So you have this like blend of like mindfulness and the workplace, right, from Elena, and then this idea of like men's uh you know health. And I love that you said that because these are two here's the thing women that are powerful are labeled as the B-word, you know, whereas when men are that way, so I love this stuff because then men also aren't allowed to show emotion because then they're the B-word too, you know, and yet and these are just these are just people that are just managing themselves and and doing stuff. So I I really I really love that. And so at what point did you all go to Chicago then? Because I know we talked a little bit about sort of the West Coast, and so now you're in Chicago. When did that come about?

SPEAKER_02 5:56

So I came to Chicago uh November of last year. So recently coming up almost to a year now of me being in Chicago, and you know, right in the middle, right before winter started, I gotta rip that band-aid off.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

But but it's not much of a band-aid, right, Elena?

SPEAKER_04 6:12

Well, uh it was it was a it was a a transition, I'll say that. Uh for sure, it was not an easy thing. We did a long distance for a year and a half.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

Yeah, and that's when I originally wanted to go to LA and I did try for a couple of months, but it's just wasn't my vibe, wasn't my it was I wasn't feeling it. Yeah. And then and it was like, hey, it's either you come in here or that's never gonna work. And so he did he pulled the trigger and he did it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

I love that. You know, I think long distance can be difficult, but it also puts in this organic pause, you know, because otherwise relationships can go really fast. And so I in some ways it that could be really cool too. So look at that.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Yeah, I think uh I think it was uh definitely um I think it was good for us. Yeah, I think that you know, me being again, my toxic patterns back back then was just like move move at a pace that was like it's uncontrollable. So I think that the long distance thing definitely did help um and prepared us for the coming together in person and living under the same roof and seeing each other every single day versus every couple months we'd see each other. Right. So I think that um that it was definitely a cool transition.

SPEAKER_04 7:19

I think also for us, for both of us, um, because we came from a previous like a relationship in the past for us was never successful. And um being doing long distance kind of was a form of healing because we both were super anxious when we before in the previous relationship, and being long distance really made us really secure. We had a lot of times to just talk about who we are, what we want, our dreams, versus when you're together all the time and you're going on dates, like you kind of like you uh replacing fond with deepness. Yes, and we had a lot of the deep conversations on the phone before we you know start living together. So I think it really helped us.

The first scream by the lake

SPEAKER_01 7:59

I agree. I love that. So so you're feeling stressed, and the two of you just take a walk to the lake and you let out a scream together, and you instantly feel lighter and relieved. So share with us that first experience.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Um, yeah. So again, like we mentioned before, the the move was difficult for me. Yeah, living under the same roof was difficult for us. Totally. Work, finances, all the things were coming, you know, coming to a boiling point for us. And yeah, we were walking by the lake, and I just went, like, do you do you want to just go and scream into the lake? Yeah. And she was like, uh, yeah, I think I do, but like, what if other people are and I was like, Don't worry, well, just ask them. And so that's exactly what we did. We walked out to uh to the pier uh that goes out into the water, and I was like, Oh, we live in the windy city, it's gonna be windy. If we go out far enough, people can't hear us. Yeah, and uh the few people that were there, um, I was just like, Hey, uh, I'm so sorry to bother you. This is gonna sound really weird, but we're about to scream into the lake. Would you like to join us? And yeah, some people were like, Yeah, absolutely. Um, and so we had like five people that first time, just like on a whim. We screamed into the lake. Um, a few people like were crying, and yeah, and that's when we looked at each other, we're like, we are probably onto something. We should start a like a club of just screaming into the lake. Yeah, and that's how, yeah, and that's how kind of I was born.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Well, and so you are entrepreneurs, I mean, before this, right? Like maybe that would be safe to say.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

I mean, not a successful one from my on my end, but I would say, but I would say, yeah, I mean, I wanted to, you know, I'm also a CrossFit coach, and I told myself when I moved to LA that I'm gonna go all in on the men's coaching, and um, yeah, and that proved to be much harder than yeah uh than it's just you know, just harder than just saying that that's what I'm gonna do. Right.

SPEAKER_04 9:49

I had my business since uh for a couple of years, so yeah, I've been I'm the one who's like, come on, start your own business, let's do it together.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Yeah, I'm like, don't tell me how to live my life. I'm I'll do it my when I'm ready.

From five people to a pier full

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Like machismo, like a good machismo, man. Yeah. That's good though. So now you welcome over 200 people each week to the lakefront to essentially just let out their repressed emotions. Uh, that's really simple. Like it's cool because it seems simple, but obviously you're recognizing that it's a stress relief, grief, just tension in general, and anything that people are you know holding on to. And so this vocal expression is really rooted in community and connection. Yeah. So say more about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

Talk about that.

SPEAKER_04 10:33

Yeah, you know, you know, it's it's really again, it started off just me and Manny, right? Just having our little ritual. And then when we started doing publicly, we really just we went to the lake, we put the sign, hey, if you have a bad week, come scream with us. And we had one person who stopped and did it with us. And then the next day, the next week, it was five people and then 10 and then 20, 200. And that's the escalation of that community, the growth of it was really first was like a sign that okay, we tapped into something really much needed. It is such a simple thing, but it is such a needed thing. And the feedback that we've been getting from people, it's uh people come there for all different kinds of reasons, right? Some people come there just to connect and meet other people, some people really been going through something really difficult, and it is a place for them to release that. Um, the spectrum of emotions that we see from joy and high fives to to really deep on their knees, screaming out everything that's been in holding them back. Um, and again, something's so simple, and that's why we've been hesitating. Like, it's so simple, come and scream. But it became such a again, this primal scream. It's so in us as a humans, yes. Um, and we are it's such a taboo to do that.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Yeah, it's a were you were you all surprised by that growth? Like you I'm you go home after like these sessions, there's one person, five people, ten people, twenty people. What is the conversation at dinner?

Why screaming works in community

SPEAKER_02 12:02

You know, I think that I think that the purpose of why we were doing it, the we never intended it to grow as big and as fast as it did. And for us, it was just like, well, we're giving people this permission for this, again, like Elena mentioned, this taboo thing that is such a simple concept in theory, uh, but no one's doing it. And why is that? Right. And I think that again, you're taught your whole life. Don't express the emotions, don't scream, be quiet, you know. Uh so again, when people do come, it's like some people are there for really heartbreaking reasons. Some people are there because they've gone their whole life saying, I have never been able to express myself in this way, and now you've given me the opportunity and the permission to do it.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Um, so yeah, you know, the conversations that we had in the beginning were like, hey, that was cool. Five people showed up, right? And then um, and then I think by like the third or fourth scream session that we did, or the the fourth week, one of the videos went viral, right? And then we were like, oh crap, um we don't know what's gonna happen the follow the upcoming week. And we got a megaphone just in case we had we we got because we have a ritual of how we do it, right? We have uh what we do is Can you walk us? I was gonna say walk us through the ritual, but yeah, yeah. So what we do is we got we have biodegradable paper that's like eco-friendly, it dissolves in water, it's safe for the aquatic life. And what we do now is we have people right now, and before we get started, whatever it is that you want to let go of from the week that was stressful or something that you want to let go of that you've been holding on to. Um, we then walk out to the pier and we we line up. We um I guide them through some breaths just to calm the nervous system down. Three, two, one, we toss the paper into the water as a symbol of like, this is it, we're letting it go.

SPEAKER_03 13:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Another three, two, one, we do our first scream. That's like a warm-up. We kind of like, hey, this is just for you to get your vocal cords prepped. We do another set of breathing, we scream for a second time. This one's a little bit more from the gut. We do another set of breathing, this one's full body, let it all out, don't hold back. If you need to scream more than once, please feel free to do it. And um, yeah, and then that's that's that's our ritual. How does it end then? Hugs, high fives. Uh that's the kind of cheers, yeah, that's what's happening.

The ritual: paper, breath, three screams

SPEAKER_04 14:18

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, people, some people stay, they hang out, they hugging, they they're crying, someone stay a little longer for their own little moments. Um, but yeah, I just I remember the moment when the first time when we came to the pier and five people showed up, and I turned to many. I was like, imagine this whole pier full of people.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

No, you saw it.

SPEAKER_04 14:38

And that literally happened like two weeks later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Wow. That's really I mean, so what's the community response? Like, what's it been like in Chicago and and just in general? I know you said this kind of this this went viral, and we're in the world of that. So, like, what's what's the community response been?

SPEAKER_02 14:55

Um, I think, uh, I think people have been really responsive to it. I think that the fact that we have people who show up every single week since we started is again a good indication that this is something that we've tapped into that they needed. Uh, I remember just last week, um uh a girl had come up to me, she was like, Hey, look, I'm I'm bipolar, and uh I never really had an any way to kind of express what I'm feeling. And this has given me uh an opportunity to do that in a safe and healthy way, and like my days and my weeks after, um I'm just more joyful. I love that. And and like I I love to hear those stories, and but like I don't know if that's actually true, right? Like, I don't have any scientific backing to tell me that that's actually beneficial for that. So, like those are things that we're exploring and trying to figure out um yeah, like what are the benefits lying.

Aftercare: tears, hugs, staying to process

SPEAKER_01 15:43

I I have a colleague who says an N of one means that it is empirically based. Like, if it works for one person, that means that it works. And I struggle with that as a scientist, but I get it too. Like, I do think that that's true, you know. Like, because we have all these random control trials and we try and create the scientific method, which I'm happy to do for y'all. Uh uh, but you know, the truth is if it's working for like to hear that person, that that young lady that came up to you, I mean, that warms my heart because truthfully, as a psychologist, I mean, I don't care what it takes, like just release the suffering, you know, whatever if it's medicine, if it's therapy, whatever it is, and obviously if it's breath work, whatever, if it's screaming, whatever it is that works there, you know, let's do it. So, um, can this work for anybody? Like as far as you know, the demographic, we have you know, do we have kids? We have old folks coming, like what's that like?

SPEAKER_04 16:36

Yeah, we have all kinds of spectrum of people coming, and that's why we always say, like, this is we're welcome absolutely everyone. We don't care your age, what do you believe in, what color you are, it doesn't matter because we all can find something for yourself here. And we've seen parents coming with kids and showing them how to regulate the emotions in a healthy way.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Yes.

Stories from the crowd and early virality

SPEAKER_04 16:56

So olderly couples coming together, holding hands and and hugging and and releasing together, families. Oh it's it's amazing how people literally come so different, such a different people coming together for the same common reasons. Yeah, um, yeah, and it's it's been and again the feedback, some people that always say that they making it their weekly ritual to come to screams. Yeah, a lot of returning people who come in. There's obviously some new people who come in and want to explore, but a lot of returning people. Um, the comments that we receive on social for so for those who are from different states and who don't have scream clubs, they're like, we need this. I'm just crying watching this video.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

So yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that comment. Like, uh, why did this make me cry? Why did watching this make me tear up? Again, it's yeah, I think it's a really strong indication that that um that the world has suffered. And I think that um, you know, we're we're feeling very divided, and uh, we want to just make sure that we can give people that space to come together and say, forget all the things that the world is telling you to do. Like, here is a safe space for you to just be.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

Yeah, you know, it's it's a primal release, I would think. So I'm thinking, you know, there's some cortisol, like there's you know, which will will like elevate a little bit, and then you know, just some neutralization of that from the parasympathetic nervous system, likely, right? The breath burst, like it seems to me that it makes sense. Also, you know, it's not accepted socially, like you're not allowed to scream, really. You know, like I living in New York, if you see the person screaming, you cross the street, yeah. Like, or you change your subway car, you know, you're not gonna be around so that part of it I think is really that the mindfulness piece, probably, because you know, it's the judgment. We are constantly judging ourselves, and I think to be able to scream and not judge yourself for that is likely contributing to some of the benefits of this. Like, do you guys feel the benefit every time you do it? Yeah, you've done it the most now. You guys are the OGs.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I I feel great afterwards. I feel you know, when it happens, and and some there's some days where uh, you know, again, the weeks, the weeks, and that's why we do it every week at the same time at this at the same day. It's like the week sucked.

SPEAKER_03 19:07

Yeah.

Safety, permission, and writing to let go

SPEAKER_02 19:07

What better way to start the week fresh than by doing this?

SPEAKER_03 19:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:10

So for me personally, I've done it in in so like gut-wrenching sometimes that like I get a little lightheaded and I go, Whoo! Yeah, and then I go, damn, I needed that. And so, yeah, I feel lighter for sure.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

I cry every time. Every time it's true. The moment I have this paper in my hand, I'm like sobbing. And after the first screen, I'm just everything coming out of me. It's so cathartic. It's so you feel for me, it's a form of also liberation of my voice. I feel more confident when I do that, especially when I with everyone in uh next to me. And then that's why the really first screamer that we've ever done, I felt very closed off. I was insecure. I was like, Oh, I don't know what people are gonna feel, what are they gonna judge me? Yeah, and when I did it, I felt so confident within myself, like I found some power in my voice. Yeah, um, yeah, sometimes, and again, every scream has a story. Sometimes it's more emotional, sometimes it's more liberating, sometimes it's more painful than it should be.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah. Do you what do you share what you write on the paper ever? Or like what's your sort of suggestion for people uh you know, about what they write?

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Yeah, we always tell people like you don't have to, you don't have to even talk, you don't have to scream, but like, you know, just show up. And we never say we never make it uh like purposeful for them to have to share any of that information with any of us, uh, because it's you know whatever it means to them. Yeah, so they write it down, and some sometimes you'll see on social, they'll take a photo of it. Uh and we were even thinking like it would be nice to like create like a like a thread or or some kind of like campaign that we do where it's like here are the stories of the people. Yeah, here's what we're writing down.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

Yeah, some people ask for more than one paper.

SPEAKER_02 20:54

They're like, you don't have enough paper to for what I need to write down.

Who shows up: kids to elders

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah, just start with one, you know, just start with just to start with one. But I but I hear that that made me think of uh I don't know if this is gonna be a little bit of a tangent, but like there's a website called Post Secret, and back in the day it used to be postcards, and you could send a postcard, you'd mail it, and you could write your secret on it. So this way you were getting your secret out there. Yeah. Now it became a website. And uh I got really I I learned about it because there was this podcast called Vanish a 9-11, and so some late some a physician just disappeared um on September 10th, and then one of those postcard secrets said, Everyone that knew me before 9-11 thinks I'm dead. Oh so I was like, yeah, yeah, totally. But that's what this made me think of because it's sort of like this biodegradable paper, right? So it's good for the lake, and then it's very cathartic to just you know, some people burn it, and so you're putting it in there and it's you know not affecting anybody, but you don't have to tell people your story, you know. But do do you guys both, like you know, Manny, Elena, like do you guys sit there and be like, I'm gonna put this on the paper? Or like if you get an argument and you're like, This is going on the paper on Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

Yeah, I mean I've done it. I remember I remember even saying, you know, when it was a smaller group, like, oh man, you I got I got stuff to write down this week for sure, you know? Yeah. Um yeah, and I think I think it's a beautiful way of of letting it go, you know, and I think um I think there is um there is some there is some backing, like there is some scientific data that's like when you write something down on a piece of paper versus just thinking about it, or it's just one form of of a cognitive uh release, and it's you know, writing it down, speaking it out verbally, not keeping it inside. So I think that it's a it's a really healthy way to do it.

Physiology, judgment, and catharsis

SPEAKER_01 22:41

Agreed. Yeah, and it and it's it becomes more real, you know, both the release, but also that this is the thing I'm suffering with. And yeah, I think it takes power. I don't like the word controller power, um, but I think it takes power away from the thing. You know, ultimately we're trying to take that away and say, like, I I got this. This is me. Yep. Yep, I agree. So this is growing by the week. Uh, I know we said that already, and you guys have been featured on multiple media outlets. And um, tell us how you're providing the resources, you know, to people around the country who want to start a chapter of this in their own cities.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Yeah, so we're we're providing them with basically like a license to use the name, right? Or our we've created a brand. And it didn't again start off that way, but you know, we quickly jumped on that train to make sure that it's like we don't want different scream clubs to pop up that don't have the same intention and and smart mission that we have, right? Yeah. So if you want to be part of the scream club, you can go to the website. There's an application that we have. We meet everyone personally to make sure that our visions are aligned, that our mission statements are aligned, um, that they can handle whatever may come with becoming a chapter leader and like the emotions that come with it. Um so there's an application that they have to fill out. You know, there's a small fee that you have to pay to just be able to use the license, to be able to use our name. Um, and that's yeah, that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 23:57

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

We're toolkits and stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:59

Right. We have toolkits of like really making sure that they're all fully supported too, because leading a community like that, it's definitely a responsibility.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

It is.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

And um, that's why we talking to everyone personally, making sure they have a good heart in place of why they want to do that, why they want to serve this community. Um, right now we have around 20 chapters around United States and UK in London uh in Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_03 24:24

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 24:24

Yeah, and it's growing by growing by day. We have interviews literally every day. Um of the chapters in in Austin also went viral. They've been having a great success as well in having a big um turnaround.

Confidence, voice, and liberation

SPEAKER_02 24:37

Yeah, and I would say faster than we did, right? Because they they've only done two streams so far.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Get out. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:43

The first one had like 150, 150 people.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Wow. Are they so are they always weekly? Is that the yeah?

SPEAKER_02 24:50

We do it weekly, and it's again very intentional on our end. Um we tell the chapter leaders who start their own chapters, like, look, we know this is a time commitment. We know that this you know you have your own life. We would love it if you can do it at least once a month, but you don't have to do it every week like we do if it's bi-weekly or if it's monthly, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

Okay. Yeah. So um, Austin, are there other cities around where there are chapters that you know that you um and I and by the way, I'm not surprised like having just met you, but also just to have this kind of compassion leadership, you know, where you're not just in it, like, but just making sure that they're in it for the right reason. And I love that. That's really beautiful. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

That makes that means a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we have we have them um we have them in Seattle, we have Seattle, we have uh Florida, we have we have Atlanta, we have Savannah, we got um Puerto Rico, DC, DC starting up in October.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

I just had a thought, um, because with Seattle, like a a a nice an interesting study might be if there's a decrease in suicides then, because they have one of the highest suicides per capita, you know, based on the weather. And so it'd be sort of interesting to look at my sense is that that could help impact that too.

Paper as cognitive release

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah, and and those are the things that like you know, we want to tap into and and make sure. You know, like you know, what if we what if we showed we we started a scream club for kids in schools and like maybe bullying goes down, like how how totally, right? So like these are things that you know we want to be we want to enter the the mental health space more and and see how how this can help communities and how this can help uh marginalized groups, if anything, you know, like we're just we're just trying to figure all those things out.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

It's important and especially with the kids. I mean, I have my clients have kids at that age and they're talking about just parenting today and just trying to parent an adolescent. And I'm just like, I hope you pray or do something because you have to find some deeper meaning because it's really hard today to to to deal with, you know, because people kids are kind of terrible. I mean that with love, like you know, all of us were bullied. I think. I mean, I don't know. I think I was bullied. I was bullied. Okay, so the three of us were bullied at least. So, you know, uh, I don't mean to you know, it's it's it is a part of it's like developmental psychology in a way, like it it I don't know if we'll ever have a world without it, but if we can reduce it or at least use it as a way to regulate, I like that you said that earlier, Elena, to regulate emotion, you know, and and some people might think screaming is not regulating, um, but it it will it likely just helps you reset to then regulate, you know. Yeah. Um, so this is super cool. When we come into New York and New Jersey, man, I know you got the Jersey connection.

Building chapters with intention

SPEAKER_02 27:18

I know, I know. We're working on it, right? Again, we're we're interviewing people. Um, and again, we just want to make sure that everyone's here for the right reasons and and you know, and that's not always uh apparent in in the in the meetings, but you know, we just again we want to make sure that the right people are coming on board.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Yeah. I think this is wonderful. So I mean I know I can keep going, but um, maybe we'll do a part two. But thanks so much for being here. So if someone's interested in this or they want to learn more about the scream club, how can listeners find you in the scream club?

SPEAKER_04 27:45

Yeah, they can find us on our our website, it's thescreamclub.com. Uh our social media, it's Scream Club Shy. Um, we're always open for communication, DM. We're just a DM away from from a conversation.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

I love that. Just or from you know, relationships. It's what it's it's it's just how the world, it's 2025, right? It's not all bad. There's some good things in it. Yeah. All right. Well, Manny Elena, thank you so much for being here. This was really wonderful. And uh for you at home listening, I appreciate you. Uh, remember to like, share, and follow. Everything's at officialdrpete.com. I'll see everyone next week. Until then, spread a little kindness and stay well.