From One Bunk Bed To A Global Movement To End Child Bedlessness

Today's episode of On Air with Dr. Pete shares purpose and passion...

It all started with a simple idea in 2012. What began as building a few bunk beds in his garage for local children has grown into a national — and international — movement.

Joining us today is Luke Mickelson, the founder of Sleep in Heavenly Peace. Luke is on a mission to make sure no child sleeps on the floor. Since those first few beds were built, Sleep in Heavenly Peace has grown into an incredible organization that has built and delivered more than 360,000 beds to children across 48 states and four countries.

Learn more about Luke's Mission Here: 

https://shpbeds.org/start/

Transcript

Meeting Luke And The Spark

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Hello and welcome back to On Air with Dr. Pete. I'm so glad that you're back here with all of you today, and I'm truly excited to share this episode, like all of them, uh, with the purpose and passion uh of this show. This, you know, today's guest is someone who is living out both in a powerful way, both passion uh and purpose. It all started with a simple idea in 2012. What began as building a few bunk beds in his garage uh for local children has grown into a national and international movement. So joining us is Luke Mickelson. He's the founder of Sleep in Heavenly Peace. Luke is on the mission to make sure that no child sleeps on the floor. Since those first few beds were built, Sleep in Heavenly Peace has grown into an incredible organization that has built and delivered more than 360,000 beds across 48 states and four countries. Wow. Luke, thanks so much for being here. Thanks for having me, Pete. Yeah, it's really great. Um, what I love about the story is that it didn't just begin with some massive organization or some strategic plan. Uh it was simply you seeing a need. So tell us how it began.

Discovering Local Kids Without Beds

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yeah, yeah, it's exactly right. You know, in 2012, like I was a 35-year-old guy working and coaching football and serving in my church, you know. I lived in a small town, and uh the beauty about a small town is you know, you get to know everybody, and the bad part about it is you get to know everybody. But you know, what that what that brought to me was this, you know, I I always grew up with because you knew everybody, you had this kind of bond with everybody. You know, you cared, and you know, everybody supported each other for the most part. And so, you know, it in 2012 I served in my church in a position called a young men's president, right? So because I coached and I worked with the the youth a lot, it made a lot of sense. And and I loved it. It's kind of like a youth pastor, but yeah, I'm not a youth pastor. But um, but anyways, no, I took I took the I had a group of boys ages 12 to 17, and you know, I was mostly responsible for the activities that we do during the week. And and we adopted the Boy Scout program, is what the church did. And so basically I was a leader of the leader of the Boy Scouts at the time. And um and part of this position, I I would sit in meetings where with other church leaders, and we talk about what's going on in the community, we talk about what the congregation's doing, blah, blah, blah. And also we talked about families that were in need, both in the congregation and and in the community. Well, one family particular they talked about kind of caught my ear because they lived in a part of town that I didn't even know existed. And you gotta remember, I've been riding my bike around this thing since I've been five.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Where was this, a listeners know? Like where in the world was it?

SPEAKER_00 2:48

It's in a small town called Kimberley, Idaho. It's just outside of a little bit bigger town called Twin Falls, where I live now. But um, yeah, just a small 4,000, 3,700 town people. You know, my high school was a I graduated with 69 people. Um, it wasn't the smallest you've ever heard of, but it was a big town. It's pretty small. It's pretty small, and I loved it, right? I in fact, that's why I moved back um and lived there for quite a bit. Rose Rose raised my family there as well. And uh, anyways, I I heard about this family and this apartment complex that I didn't know existed, so it really kind of caught my ear. And then uh one of the leaders talked about they went into the home to kind of assess what the family needed. And she was the local school bus driver. The father suffered from some mental health issues, you know, just couldn't hold a job. And so, you know, they were on a one income, very low income, they were struggling. And and well, the the the mom mentioned, or not the mom, excuse me, the leader mentioned um in passing almost that the kids didn't have any beds. And I said, wait a minute, that what do you mean they don't have any beds? Like they're sleeping on the floor? And she says, Yeah, with blankets. And I'm like, holy cow, really? Like it kind of shocked me, right? At first, I don't almost didn't believe it. The more I sat on that, the more I thought about it, and I started thinking about my own kids, you know, what that would be like if you're sleeping, if they're sleeping on the floor day in and day out. And I said, you know what? Me and the Boy Scouts, we're gonna take care of this because, you know, not just because we wanted to help children, uh sleeping on the floor, but as a as a youth leader, especially nowadays, to find an activity that didn't involve an Xbox or whatever, you know, that's not an easy thing to do. And so I just thought, here's a great opportunity to get a controller out of their hands, put a drill and a sander in it, and I could teach these boys something, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:31

That's so cool.

The First Build With Scouts

SPEAKER_00 4:32

And so, and it was super fun. I went home that night, super excited. Went down to my daughter's bedroom who she she slept on a bunk bed we had. I started measuring it, and I made a few tweaks because I'm dealing with you know 12-year-old kids, but I came up with a design, and and so that week the boys came over for a couple of nights and we built this bunk bed, and it was a couple of things happened. I was super excited to see how how fun it was for these kids and how they were getting into it, you know. Yeah, and and that played a role in on Saturday, the day we went to deliver it that that evening, because the kids were excited, they shared it with their parents and they got excited, and they shared it with other members of the congregation, and they got excited. All of a sudden, delivery time came and there was 20 people that showed up, you know. And I was like, we all can't go over and deliver this, you know, this bed to this small apartment. And so I stayed back with a couple other leaders and cleaned up my garage. I mean, it was the first part of Christmas, you know, it was the first part of December. It was cold in Idaho, and I had to park my car somewhere, and and so I had to clean up my garage anyways. Well, the next day at church, the boys expressed or or or told uh uh what had happened, right? And and to and to sh and shared with me the joys of the the kids, you know, and their excitement and the parents, and and I mean it was I was super excited for the kids, but I also felt pretty jealous that I I missed out on.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Yeah, it's a like the feel like that good feeling, you know, that's uh altruism, like being able to see the joy in these kids when they got to bed, I can only imagine.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

100%, you know, and and a little bit of the fruits of your own service, right? You didn't get to see the end of it, but I was glad the boys did.

SPEAKER_02 6:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Um, so you know, I went home and and went back to work, or went back to life, rather, you know. And the and the funny thing was is at the time, I had for the for the past couple of years, had been experiencing some real, a real faith crisis. I was experiencing a real you know, lack of purpose. You know, I don't know, you hit you hit that age of your life where you realize, you know what, this is short-lived. Yeah, and what do I want to be remembered for? What kind of impact am I gonna leave behind, other than the number of zeros behind my paycheck? That's how I was measuring success. What a stupid thing to do. I guess I was kind of growing up, if you will. Yeah, yeah. And um, and I didn't like it. I was kind of lack of purpose and lack of passion, and then this project came about and it just filled my bucket instantly. It was just exactly what I wanted to do, and then it was over. And it almost made it worse, right? Because then you feel it and then it's gone again, and you know this almost depression, if you will, is gonna creep back in.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah, I mean, you get these endorphins because it like you know, it altruism provides us with some enjoyment and physiologically, and then all of a sudden you crash afterwards because you don't have it. So that's what you're describing there. 100. And then, I mean, so it sounds like that's where then this whole idea, you know, grew, you know, for the sleep in heavenly peace.

SPEAKER_00 7:27

A little bit.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

I was I was sitting on the couch going through this in my mind, right? Watching Big Bang Theory with my kids, you know, that was our program. And they were ages 10 and 6, you know. We we we had fun. Well, a commercial came on and it was some Xbox game or whatever. I could I don't remember what it was, but I remember thinking, you kids better not ask that you want this for Christmas because you know I'm not gonna get it for you. You know, you already have one, right? And of course they did. And I don't know, you know, Pete, it just hit me right. You know, I'm going through this anguish that no one knows about, right? I'm putting on a good face, I'm trying to give myself pep talks. Like a good football coach, like a good football coach, right? You know, you fight through it, and yeah, I was just losing the battle.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Yeah.

Searching For Purpose Through Service

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Sorry. No, it's good. Never thought of it that way. Um I was losing the battle. And and I didn't want to. I knew I needed it for myself, I need it for my family. And and here now, my kids were complaining about a present that they're not gonna get, and I just delivered a bed to a you know, a kid that didn't have one. I mean, and I remember, so I just got off the couch. I was like almost upset, right? I just got off the couch and started walking to the garage. And my kids were like, Dad, where are you going? Like, big bangs on. And I said, You know what? I've got extra wood. I'm gonna build another bunk bed and you're gonna help me. Yeah, right. Um, because I wanted them to feel the joy, like my boy Scouts did, of service and what that feels like, and certainly appreciate the things they had, like a bed for crying out loud, you know. And uh, and then they were little, they didn't know any better, but we we went out and had a ball, you know, a couple of nights that week. I knew how to do it now, at least a little bit, anyways. Uh I'd never built furniture before, so you know it was kind of new to me, but I loved the challenge. And so we built this this bunk bed, and I built it because I didn't know I didn't build it because I knew that child bedlessness was a thing. I built it for my kids, right? And for us, yeah, but I wanted it to go to a child, just like the first one did, but I didn't know anybody, yeah. And so I was like, I didn't know what to do with it. So my wife at the time said, Well, why don't you just put it on Facebook, one of the buy sell trade groups? And I said, Okay, I was a little reluctant, I wasn't a big Facebook guy, you know, but okay, whatever. Um, but a couple of things happened when I did that. So I started getting posts, you know, comments on this post rather, from people I didn't know, from people I did know, from people I hadn't talked to for 20 plus years, and they all knew of families that had kids that were sleeping in some of the most uncomfortable, incredible situations I'd ever read. You know, like sleeping on pallets and sleeping on cement.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

Was was this, Luke, was this regional at that point?

SPEAKER_00 10:07

So like with the Facebook no, it was well, regional isn't my own hometown.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

I mean, so it's local.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Kimberly Twin, yeah, still very, very local, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:16

And so it breaks your heart when you read that there's wow, there's more than just this one family.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

And right under your nose. Like we're we're not from a like a poverty-stricken area. You know, this is Magic Valley, is what it's called, is fairly wealthy, you know. There's a lot of farming and agriculture, and and so I was really shocked at the conditions, and then I was even more shocked at the number of of comments and number of kids that that were being presented. And uh, and then I got a call from a friend of mine. She lived a couple of towns over and and uh she was in social work, and she says, Luke, uh, I love your project. If you haven't given that bed away, I've got a family that I want to tell you about, and this is my Haley story.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Okay.

Building With His Kids And Going Public

SPEAKER_00 10:57

So Haley was a six-year-old girl that had never slept on a bed. She slept in the backseat of her mom's car. They were homeless. Yeah. And my friend helped them get their first, you know, government-assisted house here. And so I was excited. I was a perfect. I wanted this bed to go to a special family, you know, a situation that really I felt was really needy, you know, needed. And so we we packed the bed up and with the mattresses and everything and headed out to this house. Well, when I walked into this house, and and and being I've I'd seen a homelessness before, I'd seen transitioning homelessness, I'd seen foster care, I'd seen poverty. But I never really looked at those situations through the eyes of a six-year-old before. And that's who we were there, right? And so when you walk in, it just felt more heavy to me. I mean, there was nothing in the house. There's no couch or table or anything. There was a hot plate that had a can of soup on it. That was it. That was dinner, you know? Yeah. And uh, and but little Haley, you wouldn't, you couldn't have told, you couldn't have told the difference. She was so happy to share these this new house that she had. And she pulled us back in her bedroom to show us her her bedroom because she had one, you know. It was that was already, you know, just pulling at my heart. And then you know, of course, you could you could imagine what the bedroom looked like, right? You know, holes in the carpet and tears on the wallpaper, you know, the closet door was gone. I mean, you you know what you've seen this room before, right? But the most shocking thing, the one that just just sank my heart, was in the corner of the room was a pile of clothes, and that was Haley's bed. Yeah. She'd come home from school, she'd, you know, put her PJs on, sleep in her cool school clothes, and then put them back on for school the next day. It just it wrecked me. I mean, I just was so so wait.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

So let me just I mean, that is so powerful, and obviously that's that is the catapult to 360,000 later. Like, how many uh volunteers have helped you since 2012? Like how many uh different branches are there of this right now?

Haley’s Story And A Mission Defined

SPEAKER_00 12:54

So when we delivered that bed to Haley and her mom, right? And you gotta remember Haley was so excited when she realized it was a bed, she hugged and kissed it. It was great. And then you look at mom, if your heart's not already melted, you look at mom, single mom, right? Tears pouring down her face. And I was raised by a single mom too. So I knew every single one of those tears what they meant. Yeah, and it just I realized it was way more than just a bed, right? And so when I went back that night, I looked at my friend who helped me and I said, Listen, no kid's gonna sleep on the floor in my team. And so we started building beds, right? And the interesting thing happened is the more beds we built, and the more we shared it on Facebook, and the more people started telling us about other kids that they need. So we built more beds. That first year we built 21 beds. The second year, me and my buddy combined Boise and Twin Falls. We kind of made these things called chapters, right? And so we built 50 beds, and then we had more people that wanted to donate and help. We weren't a charity at the time, so I learned how to become a charity, right? Yeah, yeah, and and just the more we did, the more this pandemic of child bedlessness got uncovered and got exposed. And then more people learned what we were doing, and all of a sudden we had family and friends years later that wanted to do it in their hometown. And so we went there and built and then set up chapters, and and then we were featured in 2018 on a hit series called Returning the Favor, hosted by the great Mike Rowe. And we reviewed that episode got 10 million views, and because of that, we got over the next couple of years after that, we got 5,000 chapter new chapter requests.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

No way.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

And oh yeah, how do you even manage that? Well, hard.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, that's not easy. You were also you were also on CNN Top Heroes. So was that was that after?

SPEAKER_00 14:43

Yeah, so 2000, beginning of 2018, that episode aired, and then we started getting hit with all these people that want to start chapters. And so we we had they had to come to Twin Falls, Idaho. We taught them how to do it, they went home and started chapters. So that first year, we put on about 125 chapters. Then, and then in December, yes, I was a C top 10 CNN hero. You know, there's only 10 of them in the whole world that they pick each year, and I was just lucky to be one. Well, that was another megaphone, right? So we got another slew of chapter present requests, and so and it's just built up since then. So today, year to date, or I should say from the beginning of time today, we've trained over 430 chapters in 48 states and four countries. And like you mentioned, we've built now, it's it's well over 370,000 beds.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Do you see like specific needs based on these regions, or like what are there any commonalities in regions that need or have more bedlessness?

SPEAKER_00 15:42

That's the interesting thing. Not really. Yeah. When when when I realized, okay, this seems to be a problem. This is 2013, you know, the year later, I was like, there seems to be a problem. You know, who else is doing this? Yeah. So I went to the internet to find out other nonprofits that were doing this. And I didn't find, I found one, one in North Carolina. That was it. No other nonprofit, established nonprofit, was providing beds for kids. And as we built more and shared more, all of a sudden I started getting calls from CASA and Child Services and all these other agencies that were helping these kids. And I was like their favorite person. And I learned because finding a bed for a child oftentimes is the single hardest thing for them to provide. And how much is it cost? How much is it cost? So now, right. So the way the program works now is we require a$300 donation, and that provides for all the materials the wood, the mattress, the sheet sets, the delivery, the whole nine yards. And then we actually run the whole organization off of that$300, which is still cheaper than going and buying it yourself, you know. Yeah, they're they're really expensive. And so, you know, now we we use what we call build days. Yeah, that's how we build these things. We take the local volunteers, the local people, yeah, some that may have never touched a drill before in their lives, no experience is necessary. And we bring them to a location, we get the wood usually from Lowe's that shows up in big wood bundles, and we teach volunteers how to use tools and we assemble them in like an assembly line, right? We build them and each each station has its purpose. Well, at the end of the day, you know, at the end of the assembly line, you got pieces to a bed, and then we store the beds into you know a local storage unit and just wait for applications. And because of that, now we now are able to provide the solution to child bedlessness on a local level. Because I knew I knew, Pete, that if if this, if we were gonna make a real change in our country, if we were gonna provide a solution to child bedlessness, it's not gonna be done by some kid from Idaho, right? It's gonna be solved by the local people. And our mission statement is no kid sleeps on the floor in our town. And most mission statements are meant for the organization to tell the public, right? Yeah, ours is completely the opposite. Yeah, we want the public to tell us what they're gonna do. Because we know it only it's only gonna be solved by the local, local people.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Well, local people always want to volunteer and they have a hard time finding how to volunteer. So do you partner with other or organizations to find volunteers or just to link them up?

From Facebook Posts To Chapters

SPEAKER_00 18:22

100%. And that was the biggest shock that I think I didn't expect was of course, our our main mission is to solve child bedlessness, right? By providing beds for kids. But what I didn't know, and what I know now, is kind of a second mission that we provide, and that is providing a service that people can be a part of. And I didn't realize that there was millions of people, like myself, that wanted to give back and wanted to help. They just didn't know how, right? They didn't know what to do. You know, and oftentimes when they did go serve, they they just didn't feel super fulfilled, you know, fulfilling. Well, when you donate your time with sleep in Emily Peace, you know, you work. We we tell people the happiest volunteer is the sweatiest and the dustiest. Because, you know, when you yeah, it's work. You you want to feel like you made a difference. You want to feel like you don't want to feel this the aches and pains of your hard work for something as as powerful as a bed for a child. And I learned that a long time ago. I met a guy named Hank, he was an old guy, and and he taught me that valuable lesson because I wanted to make everything so easy for the volunteers, right? You know, I want you to come back. And so I didn't want them to feel strained and stressed during the build process, but it's actually quite the opposite. You know, the more that they feel that they worked hard, the more, the more they feel like they they made a difference. And they did. I mean, you you touch every single piece of wood that goes into making a bed when you're at a building.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Well, I'm thinking about your kids, they're probably in their 20s now, 14 years later, you know, uh having watched you build this. I wonder, are they involved? Or like, you know, how do they feel about watching all these beds be built?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

It's a great question. I get that quite a bit, you know. The sad truth, I don't know if it's a sad truth. The the truth is, is yeah, they've been a part of it for so long, you know, especially at a younger age. I mean, what I love about it is they get to say they helped start SHB, because they did in a lot of ways, right? You know, and so to hear them say, you know, me, you know, me and my dad's charity, and you know, that's that's warms my soul because I think it gives them a base of of giving back, it gives them a base and and something that they always have to uphold, if you will, that hey, if you're part of this, then you still help. Now they they don't help as much as they they used to, obviously. Sure. They're grown adults now, but yeah. But they still have the roots and the history of being a part of SHP.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

So how do you envision SHP growing over the next few years?

SPEAKER_00 20:46

You know, we're we grow so fast, you know, we're still putting on 50, 60 chapters a year. Wow. And and to manage that, you know, we're just now, I'd like to say we're just now catching up to the support system needed to manage that kind of growth.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

And that's still an ever-growing challenge because you know, you put on 50 chapters, and each chapter has 10, 20 volunteers. You know, that's a volunteers, core core team member volunteers. You know, and then and then you spend a lot of time, we we're able to be a lot more proactive now of trying to find large partnerships like Lowe's and Ford Motor Company and Jockey and these these organizations that sponsor us on a national front. Nice. We're able to work that and extend their their services to help us out. And yes, we partner with a lot of organizations. One of our big partnerships we're gonna announce here next next month is the Knights of Columbus. You know, they're a worldwide organization. They just now adopted the bed building program, you know, the sleeping on the pieces program as their main initiative, right? And so those are big organizations. You know, we partner up with Habitat for Humanity. If you go into a low store right now, as we speak, you know how you can round your dollar up? Store in the country. You round your dollar up, it gets split between habitat and sleeping only peace. That is so cool. It's really cool. You know, it never never would have thought that 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

From the garage right around Christmas, but you know, it it takes a special person, and obviously your background and even just the emotion you showed here, like just the idea that that's what it takes. You know, you have to be a part of something bigger, and that's the purpose. And it's really beautiful that you've built it into this. And thousands of children are now safe and comfortable place to sleep because of your decision to act.

Viral Moments And Rapid Growth

SPEAKER_00 22:29

So it it's a passion thing, you know, Pete. I I tell people, listen, I'm just a farm kid from Idaho, and I do that for a reason because I want people to realize you don't have to be a Harvard grad, and you don't have to be, you know, something I don't know, special. I'm just a dude that likes to help people. And and when you find your passion, and mine just dumb luck, I fell into it, and I'm so grateful for it because it has provided a purpose and a passion that I didn't even know existed. And it's led me to other people that have felt the same passion and and been able to exercise it. And so uh, you know, these these beds get built by amazing people. They're not paid, they they they work out of the goodness of their heart. Their reward is the smile that you see on these kids' faces, and it's well worth it.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

But you missed that first time, but you have it now 14 years later, 370,000 uh more. So if someone's listening today, Luke, uh, and they either know a family in need or want to be a part of the movement, uh, what's the best way that they can connect with Sleep in Heavenly Peace?

SPEAKER_00 23:33

Thanks for asking. Yes. Go the first step is go to our website, shpbeds.org. Now, the way we have this set up, you're not gonna go to some main corporate website. It's not our main website because we changed it because we want everybody to understand this is a local problem. So when you type it in, based on where you live, your local chapter's main page is gonna come up and it's gonna tell you a few things. It's gonna tell you how many applications they have, how many kids are waiting, how many beds they've built, you know. Um so it kind of gives you a taste of how the chapter is doing. It gives you a way that you can contact that chapter through Facebook, through a phone call. And if you want to get involved, that's the best way to contact that local chapter. You can donate, and I think it's important to understand: look, donations is obviously how we we survive, right? But I think it's really important. I'm a farm kid from Idaho, Pete. I didn't want this to be some charity you donate money to and you have no idea where it goes, and blah, blah, blah. You know, I had control of setting this up the way I think a charity should be set up. So when you donate money, you get to pick which chapter it goes to, and 90% of that dollar stays in that chapter, right? Yeah, we have we have to obviously turn on the lights and pay insurance and stuff like that. But 90%, and it's actually even greater than that when you think about the cost of the chapter itself. So you can donate, and that's where your dollars go. In-kind donations, twin-size sheets and pillows and things of that nature. And if if you go on there and there and this is something that really pulls at your heart, and you don't have a close chapter, you can start a chapter. So we have a start a chapter link there, and and it tells you the process of what it's like to be a chapter president, how to get there. We'll fly you once a quarter, we fly people to Salt Lake City, Utah. We actually train them how to run the chapter, and and we make it as simple and as easy as possible. We want our chapter presidents to focus in on three things: raising money, building beds, delivering beds. And raising money is the easiest of all three of those because all you have to do, I tell people is just tell your story. Tell them, hey, I delivered a bed to little Joe, and let me tell you what happened. And that that right there is enough for people to realize what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Well, we heard about Haley and you know all your stories. So thanks so much. I mean, the simple idea, you acted with courage and compassion, and you've really changed lives to make things better. So you're you are an inspiration.

The Scale Today And What $300 Buys

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Oh, wow. Thanks. Thanks, Pete. I appreciate it. And if I can ask your audience one thing if if you walk away from this, the only thing I would ask is, or the biggest takeaway is help help me raise awareness, right? Child bedlessness represents greater than 3% of the total population. So if you're in a town of 100,000 people right now, there are 3,000 kids sleeping on the floor. And as you and I speak, right now, Sleeping Amy Peace has about 160,000 kids on our waiting list. And you can be a part of at least helping families realize that there is a solution to their problem, or actually becoming the solution themselves and donate. But share, but share your experience today. Share this podcast with other people so people can realize that this is a need and that there's a solution.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

And all the links will be in the show notes. And thank you so much for being here. And so like you heard the call to action and you know, uh, just check it there. Uh shpbeds.org. Luke, thanks again for being here. I appreciate it. Thanks, Pete. All right. Uh, thank you for listening at home. If this episode inspired you, please do all the things like follow and share. Everything's at officialdrpete.com. And thank you uh for spreading meaningful stories like this so that we can really make a difference. I mean, that's a lot of what we try and do on this show. So I'll see you back here next week. Until then, spread a little kindness and stay well.