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Ep172 Drowning Prevention and Chemical Safety

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In this powerful episode of The Deep End Pool Podcast, Frank and Jacque dive into critical pool safety topics every pool owner and pro should know. From teaching infants to survive in water to ensuring your chemical storage won’t blow up your garage, this episode is packed with real-world advice, hard-earned experience, and the occasional laugh (we’re looking at you, skunk story).

➡️ Learn the life-saving importance of early swim lessons,
 ➡️ Why safety nets and fences make a massive difference,
 ➡️ How to store pool chemicals safely,
 ➡️ The real risks of ignoring pool safety devices,
 ➡️ And yes… what happens when you store salt in a storm shelter.

👶🐶 Whether it’s your kids, your hound dogs, or your neighbors — safety around pools is no joke. Tune in, learn, and share. You just might save a life.

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0:00 – Welcome and Sponsor Shoutouts
1:15 – April Pools Day & Cat Controversy
4:00 – Pollen, Debris, and Pool Chemistry Challenges
8:10 – Pool Safety Overview Begins
10:45 – Teaching Infants to Survive in Water
12:50 – Coast Guard-Rated Floatation Devices
14:25 – Dangers of Distraction: The Silent Drowning Epidemic
18:50 – Back From Break – Doggy Safety & Pool Barriers
22:00 – Safety Nets vs Covers: What Works and Why
26:00 – Pool Fencing & Gate Safety Tips
30:55 – Securing Fence Bottoms & Doggy Escape Tales
34:05 – Backyard Monitoring Systems (and why Ring may fail you)
37:30 – Pool Entry Safety & Kid Logic (AV Kay Story)
39:55 – Advanced Monitoring (CameraWell / Edge AI System)
42:50 – Pool Chemical Safety 101: Don't Blow Up Your Garage

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Russel Ownens:

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Frank Disher:

April pools day. Y'all talking about safety,

Unknown:

and the water is green, how much acid, how much Cory. Hey, friends, welcome to the deep end with and Jackie his side kicking life and on the air. We are April Fools, April pools day this week, and we always want to talk about safety, because that's what it's all about. All the things

Frank Disher:

keep them, kiddos safe and then down, dog safe 100% because

Unknown:

we have we have puppy dogs, we have kiddos, we have all the things. So all

Frank Disher:

right, we got to confess, though we're not real concerned about cat safety around pools, just down dogs, well, cats don't drown. I don't want to, which is a shame. I don't want to talk.

Unknown:

You are not a cat lover, and there are people that listen to us, but they love their kitty cat. No,

Frank Disher:

I've never heard of a cat drowning in a pool. But, and, you know, and skunks and yes, never heard till late last year. I'd never heard of a skunk drowning in a pool because, you know, cats are very agile, you know, before they suck yourself well, Abby,

Unknown:

Kate, her favorite Disney movie right now is the rest of cats. So she's all about the well, then be fake. Everybody wants to be a cat, but

Frank Disher:

cats, cats just don't fall in pulls. I mean, you know, they're just, you know, they can walk on a hair, unless somebody pushes them and grounds. But this past year, we found a skunk in a pole, which is the first time I've ever had a skunk in a pool. So it was, it was a baby skunk, it wasn't a full grown skunk. But, I mean, it don't matter, skunks be skunks. They stink, but it's the first time I'd ever had a skunk in a pool, and I've never had a cat in a pool. But skunks rodents, no, they're, they're very, very skilled. Unlike, you know, armadillos, which are just like bowling balls with legs, you know, they just, they're not real, they're not real talented in the, you know, athletic skills. But, you know, hey, they can roll up in a ball and be chewed on, yeah, but anyway, so, so yeah, this could be Safety Week, but this past week, Safety Week, and we Yeah, yeah. And even in some of our pools, you know, a lot of them, people think they got algae, but they didn't get algae. What they got was pollen. We

Unknown:

got people calling and complaining my

Frank Disher:

pool screen, yeah, yeah. And you got three inches of Live Oak, the, what we call them, tassels, these old things that come off all over my driveway. Yes, we don't have any in the backyard, but we got plenty in the park, and it just rains these things and that organic material falls in the water. Your chlorine eats up all it can, so it completely wipes out your chlorine. And also the pollen that's on those turns your what your water green.

Unknown:

See, I'll be patient with your people, even if it's not us. Be patient with your pool people, because it's a hard time. It's very difficult. It's just in the rain that's coming all the things,

Frank Disher:

yeah, and if you're part of the country that doesn't have live oaks, just be glad you don't have live oaks, because we got so many people that they'll have like a backyard with 150 trees in it, and half those trees are live oaks, which shed in the spring, and half are like red oaks, black oaks and white oaks, and every other color oak, and they shed in the fall. Yeah, so these people with the live oaks are getting beat up right now. And. Yeah, and pretty soon that's about to be over. That'll probably be over this week, and then next week we get to deal with, you know, crape myrtles are going to start blooming and coming out. Well, not next week, but within the next month, we're going to start dealing with the crape myrtles are going to start blooming. And now the people that have surrounded their pools of crape myrtles,

Unknown:

they have not because you told them not to. Well,

Frank Disher:

most of them did it before I told them, do not do a great murder.

Unknown:

Come on. Well, um, we also have to talk about that. You know, it's, it's March Madness. Yes, we're down to the Final Four, and the final four teams are. You did not do a bracket? No, this is, I'm going to ask you this. All the number ones are in the Final Four. How many times does that happen? Frank Disher, I know the answers you do, and I want you to say it not a fair question. It's 2008 2000 only time, the first time it ever happened

Frank Disher:

since they started keep ranking teams. And so this

Unknown:

is number the second time. This only

Frank Disher:

the second time it's ever happened. Y'all the top four. You know that just that just goes to tell me, Hey, I has gotten pretty freaking good. Artificial Intelligence is telling people that's the better team.

Unknown:

I do a bracket every year. You do not. We did a something, something. And our chilis, Aaron, our chilis. Hey, Aaron, which is our cheers, yes, that we say. Everybody knows your name all the things, but I always do a bracket, and I had Florida and Duke in the Final Four, so you may get final two. I'm 50% right now, so we'll see. I'm not going to tell you who I said would win, because that'll be next week.

Frank Disher:

Yeah, if you've seen watching my videos, there is a basketball in the screen. If I'm filming in front of the scoreboard, to see who you think. On one side of this TV behind me there is the Wilson volleyball with the blood hand print from Castaway, and on the other side is a Duke basketball. You

Unknown:

just gave it away. I could have been lying. I

Frank Disher:

could have been lying, but

Unknown:

it's not Florida Gators. No, it's not the Florida Gator

Frank Disher:

never support gators. Never support native I'm sorry, Aggie fans, but you know I said, Yeah, I know I probably did well, most of the Aggie fans are going to be engineers, and they're not listening to me anyway, because they already know everything. But they don't need no help. Goodness gracious. How many people am I going to alienate tonight? I'm

Unknown:

not sure, but I don't even know. So we're going to talk about safety. Yes, what kind of what's

Frank Disher:

the ping pong ball

Unknown:

from our Daisy? Have our Daisy, who is playing with the ping pong balls? That's Daisy in the background. So safety like in your pool. What do you want to talk about? We'll see

Frank Disher:

where it goes. We're probably going to start with just safety around the pool, because, y'all, it's gonna be the same thing every year. It's gonna be the same thing every year, but it's it's worth listening to

Unknown:

know us. Last year, some people didn't know us. So

Frank Disher:

if you're just listening now and you haven't gone back to listen to all the old ones,

Unknown:

we have a greater need to be reminded than informed. That is the greatest quotation that I just feel like, Who's that

Frank Disher:

quotation from?

Unknown:

Oh, you're gonna ask me that, and I used to know that. I just say Ronald Reagan, I know it's not I told you that 1000 times that we have a greater need to be reminded than informed. But

Frank Disher:

Shakespeare, no, most your stuff goes from Shakespeare, no,

Unknown:

it does not. I don't need don't go there with me. Don't go to Willie shakes with me. We can't even, well, you know it is. It's

Frank Disher:

like when I tell people to keep really good records on your pole, because you'll start seeing patterns. Now, they're not going to be very, really, extremely consistent, but you're going to see patterns with what your poll goes through. And that's why I tell everybody to keep records, and always use the example of there's a reason we study history. You know, like America, we used to could read history and learn from it, but that kind of went away for a while, but maybe it's coming back. We'll see. But I have no comment. But when you have a history to look back at, that really helps you learn what to expect, sure, and helps you be prepared for what's coming. Documentation is everything, yes, documentation keeping records, so you can go back and reference those records. All right, so let's go and you ready? Jump on in. I'm ready. Let's jump on in. All right, we're going to start with this is always going to be the number one if you have. Children, you teach your child to swim, they teach children to swim, I believe, all the way down to the age of four months old. Now they're not swimming laps. At that age, a child learns because, believe it or not, kids are really smart, and they can learn muscle memory really quick, and they, they teach them to when they fall in water, they teach them how to roll over so they can breathe and to kick their legs and paddle their arms, amazing. And when they roll over, they scream Yes, to alert people. And it's, it's really, really good training for a child. I mean, that's not swimming, that's surviving in water, which is very important, because the kid's not going to swim to the edge and pull himself out, but he's just trying to survive until somebody that's more capable can remove them from the water and get them to a safer place. Because you

Unknown:

might have a barrier around your pool. Yep, you might have all the things in your pool, but you might be somewhere else. Yes, that they don't have all

Frank Disher:

of that yes, or a neighbor may leave a gate open, yeah. So that

Jacque:

training is so important. You know, my daddy, who was a lifeguard, just threw me in the water. That's how I learned how that's how we learned how to swim back in the day. But now there's all that training, and it's incredible all the things that these babies, at four months old in these swim classes learn and can know at a such a young age. Yeah, it's crazy. And

Frank Disher:

that's survival training. And then you keep the children in swim lessons until they okay. They're learning strokes and they're learning, you know, and the more a kid if you have a swimming pool, if you have a swimming pool, the more a child learns to be comfortable in the water and to be be able to propel themselves across the pool and underwater and all that, the more they enjoy the pool, and, of course, the safer they Get. So teaching a child to survive at an extremely young age and then teaching them how to swim, they're going to have a better

Unknown:

life, right, right? It's so very important. So teaching your child

Frank Disher:

to swim or survive in water is the number one thing you can do, like always say, it doesn't just protect them in your pool, it protects them more around any body of water, whether it be a lake, whether your car run off into a flooded ditch, whatever, your child is more likely to survive a water hazard than a child that does not know how to swim or how to survive in water. There's

Unknown:

so many water parks. There's so many, you know,

Frank Disher:

well, and you know, and like, our subdivision has a pond, yeah,

Unknown:

there's so many bottles of body. It's not just your backyard pool,

Frank Disher:

right? And if you are going to get flotation devices for a child, you want to make sure you get something that is Coast Guard rated, the US Coast Guard. There's a lot of flotation devices that are not approved, they haven't been tested. They come over here from China. China don't give two flips of our kid drowns. China just wants to sell us products. So they're not going to ensure that a flotation device will actually save the child. It just has the appearance it will, because there are some flotation devices out there that can be more harmful than they are good. It's like I saw a video one time, and it's the most heartbreaking video you've ever seen in your life. Y'all, it's a child next to their parents in a pool. There's four adults in this pool, and they're kind of huddled together, and they're just talking and having a good time, and their kids are with float, you know, they got the arm floaties on. And one of the one of the children, is in a little round floaty that they that they kind of slip through, you know, and they're just kind of hanging on, you know, with their arms going through the floaty. And this floaty flips upside down the buoy, the little life buoy, little round life buoy that looks like a donut flipped upside down, and this child is sitting there, three, four feet from their parents, with their legs in the air, struggling. And the the parents are talking. They're used to hearing the kids, you know, splash around them and everything. Nobody's watching the children. And this child drowns and is not revived at all. The child drowns and never recovers, and seriously, four to six feet from the parents in that so that would be another thing is, you know, make sure, if you're going to use flotation devices, make sure they're safe flotation devices. And if you're an adult and you're in charge of watching the children, you watch the children. It doesn't mean you're just in the pool area. You have to have the awareness where the children are, what the children are doing, what's going on. Are there any hazards that develop every minute? Is one kid accidentally jumping on top of another kid thinking it's cool and fun, but you know, they hurt the child, and child goes under and does. Not and sucks in a lung full of hair. If you're an adult and you're responsible for watching children, that needs to be your number one priority, right? No alcohol, no distractions. Your job is to watch the children. This happens all the time. There would be a party, there would be 2030, people around the pool. So common with you know, 1015, adults at the pool, and everybody just assumes that many adults in the area, the children are safe and they're not. So if there's young children involved, an adult needs to have eyes on those children, watching those children, making sure, y'all, it's drowning is called a silent killer, because when you're underwater makes me so sad. Yeah, when you're underwater, you're not making any noise, no, so you can't scream out. And so if you're an adult, you need to have visual contact on those children, making sure if anything goes wrong, that you can respond and prevent that child from drowning, and a lot of times it's not even drowning, it's close to drowning, and children end up with brain damage. And this shows really turning into kind of a bummer. But if it saves one life, if it saves one life or one child from having brain damage, it's well worth it. So all right, when we come back, we're going to talk about a few other things about swim safety and pull safety, and we'll see where we go from there. Let's talk to y'all in a minute.

Unknown:

Why should you brush Why should you skim?

Russel Ownens:

Why you hire a pro and stay off that limb? So take

Unknown:

a dive into the deep

Frank Disher:

end. The TV. Hey Jackie, hey Frank. Have you ever wondered how you can clean between all those pesky filter pleats on a cartridge filter? Yeah,

Unknown:

I lose sleep over it. I mean, it's so tedious and it takes forever, I could never seem to get them all clean. Well, here's

Frank Disher:

a pro tip. Try the cyclone filter cleaner. It uses water pressure from your garden hose to spin the filter as you clean it. This allows all the filter pleats to get thoroughly cleaned out. And the best part is it is fast and doesn't hurt your back.

Unknown:

Wow. The cyclone filter cleaner. You got it. The

Frank Disher:

Cyclone filter cleaner, you can thank me later. Thank and what I love about their filter cleaner is they have this wand. It's the best filter cleaning spray device I've ever used. We've tried many, many different ones. They got a short version now and they got a long version. But I love using those things, even on our de filters, we use their wands. And do we have a code? We have a special discount code. If you go to cyclone filter tools.com and use code deep end, you'll save 10% on your order so you can buy direct from them. Great stuff. I'm glad I found it. We got one on every truck. My guys love it. Guys, don't miss out on this. This is the best filter cleaning system out there.

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Frank Disher:

we don't know. She's been out in the backyard a few times. She has no interest in the pool at this point. She Well, thank goodness No, yo. She's a, what is, she's a Maltese. She's a

Unknown:

morkey, half Maltese, half Yorkie, but she's just, like, exactly like a Maltese, oh, she's got a body, like a llama, but in the personality of a Yorkie, yeah. And she because she's, like, she's

Frank Disher:

always walking downhill. Her back legs are longer than her front leg, so she's like, sloped to the front, and then she's got this goofy, long neck,

Unknown:

and she is Frank's dog. She's your dog. She does like he loves you so much and cannot stand me. Well,

Frank Disher:

yeah, she can she, well, it's just when I'm around, you know she is she, I don't know if it is when I was the first one holding her, when she realized we were new people. Or what

Unknown:

I don't know, but she's, she's not, right? She

Frank Disher:

got some sharp little teeth on her. But, alright, yeah, so let's get further in a little bit of safety. All right. Other safety, all right, the best thing you can do around your pool to protect all children and all, you know, disabled adults or whatever around your pose, barriers, barriers. You want to have barriers. Barriers work fantastic if they're properly installed. And I'm talking fences, I'm talking safety nets. You know, that kind of thing we do a net. It's a safety net has holes in it about three inches across and no child. And by the way, the gap is three inches. Nothing can be four inches. It has to be less than four inches. And I guess that's they measure the size of the child's head. Oh, that's him. Oh, so, like, you know, gaps in Fences, gaps and nets or anything like that, has to be less than four inches. Because four inches, I guess a small child can that can crawl at that point, that can make their way to the water. There's they cannot be smaller than four inches, so they can't get through that gap. And these nets just kind of stretch out across the pool. A child can restore them through touch the water, but in a child doesn't weigh much, but these nets are they're tightly, strong across the pole. There's a cinching device that cinches it together and makes it very, very tight. They're very, very safe. There's never been a reported drowning of one that was properly installed, of a child drowning through that. But these nets are good. But the problem is these nets are a little bit of a pain in the butt to put on and take off. They're not terrible. They're much easier than like a safety cover. Safety covers are huge pain in the butt, and those are great for winterizing, where you put this cover over the pool that keeps leaves out, keeps dirt out, keeps everything out, and they're stretched very tight, and anything could walk across it not fall in. These are the ones you see where there's an elephant like standing in the middle of the pool, like the loop lock, loop lock. We install loop lock, yeah, but we install, I'll say pools.com we install stall, their safety nets, and we also install their fences. But these safety covers are great for over winter, because people don't even want to think about their pool. They just cover it up. And down here, we still got to run our pools. But up north, these things are much more common because they're safe.

Unknown:

So the safety net is for during, yes, the swimming season that it's on there. You might be keeping your grandkids that weekend, but you're not going to go swimming, but then you get it off, and then you go swimming, and then you have to reinstall it, then you have to reinstall it. And

Frank Disher:

the problem with the safety nets, I like the safety nets. They're extremely safe when properly installed. But the problem with them is people, they go swimming, and then they get in a hurry when it's time to stop swimming, and they don't put the cover back on.

Unknown:

And you have to be diligent. Yes,

Frank Disher:

it has to be. If you have one, you better you you need to install it Sure, each and every time you're finished using the pool and when you're out there, if you got small children like that, you know you're going to be very observant. You mom is God bless you. You are so good at watching children. And, you know, guys,

Unknown:

not only mamas, but yeah, yeah, grandmas

Frank Disher:

too. Guys, we're Come on, guys, we need to step up our game. I'm as bad as any of you, and probably worse than most, but we need to step up our game and be as responsible as our wives are, because y'all, y'all got it going on, you know, we don't worry that much a lot of guys. You know, we grew up getting bumps, bumps and bruises and being kind of proud of them and wearing them as a you know, we like showing people our stitches, you know, where we had stitches. But you ladies, you know, it's good to have a certain level of fear, you know, just to make sure people are safe. But so so we got safety fences, which are typically removable fences, like what we install, like the all safe fences, if you can completely pull these things out of the ground and get them out of the way. If you're having a big party and you're having a lot of people over, or the children have reached an age where you're not worried about them getting to the water anymore, but these safety fences, they have gates. Not everybody gets a gate, but most people get gates with them, and when properly installed, they're very good at keeping anything, dogs, children, from getting to the water and accidentally falling in and drowning.

Unknown:

And that's a great point that you're puppy dogs. Yes. I mean, everybody loves their dogs, their family, and so you got to be careful about

Frank Disher:

that. Yeah, we got a lot of clients that have lost town dogs. Yeah, boy, it's a tough thing when you lose a hound dog. Now, I'm not comparing it, no, not, but I'm just saying. Oh my gosh, it's heartbreaking.

Jacque:

That's the first thing we do. Yes, we did when we had our former dogs. We haven't done that with with new dog Daisy, but we threw them in the pool, and gotta teach them how to taught them how to get out, and taught them Where do you go? If you're in the middle, here's where you go. And so because they need to know, because you never know.

Frank Disher:

And that takes us to another point. There are dog ramps, you know, because some pools y'all don't have tanning ledges, and all these shallow areas that dogs can go to, that they can actually stand on safe some of you may just have one set of steps that leads into a deep pool, which is in the past in our area, that was the typical pool. Nowadays, everybody's doing tanning ledges and several benches and all kinds of stuff. But a lot of typical pools just have way top step. And sometimes that top step may only be two feet wide, and then everything else is, you know, a small animal cannot stand on that get out. So if you have a pool like that, they make dog ladders, and there's safety ramps for dogs to use if they fall in the pool. It allows them to to escape from the pool. And I believe a lot of that comes from or a lot of the safety factor comes from that sticking up out of the water and appearing to be a way out. So the animal will swim to that to escape. Because when a dog swimming around with his head, head above water, he may not be seeing a shallow area under that's 446, inches underwater, yeah, they may not see that. And if they fall in and the water's cold, they're panicking because it's frigging cold y'all and that dog just wants to get out, so they'll sit there at that one spot trying to get out, until they get so tired that they can't keep themselves above water anymore. And that's when we lose our home dogs. You have to teach them where to go. You got to teach them where to go, or give them something very visual to go to that is a way out. So they do make dog ramps. I've talked about the frog log, yeah, frog logs are more for little critters. You know, frogs, snakes, squirrels, you know, baby possums, baby raccoons, rats, whatever you know, just or, you know, small, not so baby, like rats, you know, it gives them a way to get out of the pools. So when they fall in, because when you see a rat in a pool, y'all, that rat did not mean to get in that pole, that rat went to that water to get a drink, and then he fell in. And a lot of times, just after they've been poisoned, because they get extremely thirsty, somebody has rats in their shed, they'll throw poison in their shed. Well, that poison makes them start to hemorrhage, and they get very, very thirsty, and they go searching water, and that's typically why you'll find dead rats in your water. Somebody's probably poisoned them and but still, they probably got enough life in them. If they saw somewhere, they could get out. They're not going to die in your pool. And then you don't have to fish that nasty thing out of your skimmer basket. I'm all for rats dying. I don't I don't mind the rat dying. I just don't want him dying in our pools. So if you give them a way out, they're probably going to use it. So you know, these safety ramps, these frog logs, stuff like that. Those are good things that you should have. But let's go back to the barriers. All right, we're talking about the fences, and this goes for fences around yards. Gates should always open outward. They should not open inward, in towards a body of water, because if something is on the outside of that fence and finds a gate, like a small child, that's a great point, or like an animal, they will push to get in. They don't know to pull they push, because they all they know is they got a little bit of weight once while they'll push on the door and it opens. So that's what they do. They go and they push and it opens. So if that gate opens outward when they push it, hopefully they'll close it and latch it. Your gates, by the way, should always self close and self latch. But sometimes our springs get a little weak and they stop pulling the gate shut, or the gate gets a little bit out of square, and the latch part actually misses the catch, so it doesn't latch when it closes. So a big wind comes and blows it open a little bit, and things can get in to the backyard and into the water area. So if you're doing one of these safety barrier fences, one of these child fences around your pool, you need to make sure that fence opens outward. So because those things also will get a little bit out of kilter,

Unknown:

The backyard is a is a big deal. Those

Frank Disher:

those gates, even on these safety fences, will get a little bit out of whack and not square, not be square anymore, just from the, you know, weight of things pushing on them, or whatever, and they don't latch when they close. So you want to adjust those latches so they do latch. Make sure they're continuing the latch and. They have to adjust the post or something, but make sure that that gate, when you open it up, it needs to close itself from four to six inches. If you just open it up four to six inches, it will self close and self latch. And that way that gate is properly installed. It's going to remain safe. In case, you know you're in the pool, you're rushing all the kids out, the last kids following you out. The kid doesn't, you know, doesn't make sure the gate latches. And then now that gates ajar a little bit, and then the kid gets out in the backyard. Later, when you're busy cooking dinner, you're taking a shower, whatever kid finds a way into the backyard, and then he can get into the pool area, so now that child is at risk, so let's make sure that our gates and latches are working properly and securing the pool area, and our gates to our backyard are shutting and latching properly and securing the pool area. And when we come back, we'll talk about a couple other things I just

Jacque:

wanted to say from recent experience talking about hound dogs and I, and I think children too, make sure your backyard fences at the bottom you have a barrier because, you know, rain and all the things can and corrosion can make holes and things where your babies can get out of that fence, and we sometimes don't see that. And you know, kids, small, kids are they're small, they can get out from under. So you need to make sure that the bottom of the fences are protected.

Frank Disher:

Yeah, that's how we lost our low low she got out when we were out of town, and our dog watcher thought she was fine, and we had a doggy door that let our doggy door let her into the backyard. She's perfectly safe in the backyard. Never got out. She never done she found, she found a way to get out from underneath the fence, and got hit by car anyway. All right, so when we come back, got a couple more things I want to talk about, and we'll talk to you in a minute.

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Jacque:

But what does it mean? Hey, friends, this is the deep end with Frank and Jackie, and we're talking about getting ready to go swim in your pool and in your backyard and all the safety things, not all of them. We're just covering a few of them that are so common that we've experienced, and we've had people experience, so some of the safety issues going into this season, because we're going to be talking about this season the next few weeks, because it's about, you're about to jump in your pool. If you're in Texas, there's people already swimming. There are and they're crazy. It's

Frank Disher:

not that bad. I had to go in a pool the other day. It wasn't that

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Frank Disher:

saying, yeah, it, you know, we're talking about, you know, barriers, stuff like that. Yeah. You also need to consider, you know, if you think your doors are locked, or you got, you know, you shut your back door and all that stuff. You know, a lot of cities are requiring alarms before you recommend those. I mean, it's not a bad thing. This problem is it's like car alarms. I don't like any kind of alarm because people start ignoring them because they false alarm all the time, like these floating things that go in your pool, that alarm if something gets in the pool, when it gets windy, they alarm. When anything happens, they alarm, and they false alarm all the time. So people start ignoring them. So I'm not a big fan of alarms, but and they're so annoying every time you walk out, out through your back door, if you're like having a party or whatever, you end up turning. The alarm off because you're tired of hearing it, and then you forget to turn it back on. So now you're not protected, but if you're going to have locks and stuff on your back doors and on your windows, you need to make sure these are really good locks. Y'all have a good friend that lost a son because he was staying with his grandparents, and you know, they didn't have any extra locks, or anything like that, on the back door. They pushed a big chair, big heavy chair, in front of the back door so the door cannot be opened, and that child was able to move that chair. Nobody thought that child could move that chair. Yeah, that child, he woke up, and it was roaming the house by himself. I'm sure that's happened a lot of y'all, you picked up second. How did you get down here? The child was able to move this chair out of the way, and he was able to get that door open. He got in the backyard, and they found him passed away in their hot tub. So you just don't want to be that one out of a million. Y'all, you don't, do not want to be that one out of a million. You want to make sure that if you're not going to do the alarms and do locks that a child cannot reach regardless, or it's extremely complicated or hard to open so a child cannot unlock that back door. And the same with Windows. You know child. You know children. They watch us, y'all, that's what they do. They watch us and they repeat what we do, and they copy what we do. So if they've seen you open the window or they've seen you open the door, they're going to figure it out. So you need to make sure these are thing you have locks and stuff on your windows and on your back doors that a child cannot open. Not just yeah, he maybe not can. Or, you know, it's, yeah, I doubt if he even try. Y'all, when a kid gets his mindset on some he ain't got nothing else think about. Y'all, yeah, yeah. He ain't thinking about how he's gonna pay bills this month. He ain't thinking about that troubled person at work. He thinking about if he wants to get that new car. All he's thinking about is what's in front of him at that time, and he and you take a little brain like that, and you put it totally focused on something that's going to figure it out. Our little AV

Jacque:

K he She's three and a half, and she was here for her cousin Carter's one year old birthday, and she was so upset that we would not let her go swimming in our pool. And we were like, it's too cold, it's too cold. And I guarantee you, if we did not have Barrett, she wanted to go out there so bad, and she'd figure it out and get in that pool. And she is so beyond smart. We'll talk about her many times, but she is so smart that she would have figured it out. She was so not mad at us. She did not understand why we would not let her get her swimsuit on and go into that pool. And so these kids are think. All they're thinking is, oh my gosh, this is the pool I swam there last summer. Why are they not letting me? I'm I'm getting in there tonight. I'm doing that, you know? And she, if we had not locked and done all the barriers and all the things, she would have gone out there because she wanted to swim so badly that she would have done that, she should

Frank Disher:

have found her way back. Oh, 100% monitoring systems, you know, I don't trust ring. I don't trust ring at all. Y'all ring, sometimes it picks up the image. Sometimes it does not pick up the image. So I'm not a big fan of ring. If that's your a level of protection that you're counting on. We had a dog, cutie, I knew you were going. Cutie got in the backyard. We had no video. Cutie ended up she actually had a heart attack and fell into the pool because she had no water in her lungs. She did not drown. She was she had passed 17 or 18. She was 18 years old. She was passed away before she got in the water. Her heart had stopped so she did not inhale any water or anything like that. But cutie, we were trying to see what happened, and and our ring cameras did not. And we had two ring cameras that should have caught her going back there, and they got 00, no. The the only images we had is when Jackie went to and found her, and we had no images of cutie in the pool, because things got to move at a certain pace before they're picked up by these ring cameras. But there is a camera, and I've talked about it before. I used to refer to it as camera. Well now they are edge. They're edge cameras. And I believe if you look at camera, if you pull up their website, you'll still find edge, but they did some reorganization, or whatever. They've improved a lot of things, and they change their name along with it, I don't their technology is crazy. Oh, it's scary. Yeah, yeah. It uses your AI to identify what's in the pool area. It can, it can keep track of many people in the pool area. It can tell the difference whether someone in the pool is struggling or I. To swim and possibly drowning, or if somebody is swimming and playing, it alerts you. Yes, it can alert your phone. You can't even set it up where it calls 911, it's incredible what this system can do. And it knows the difference between a dog in the pool area and a human in the pool area. It can pick up. It knows the difference between a wild animal and a domestic pet. They feed all this information into it, and then, then it can distinguish between the movements, the speed of movement, and all that. It doesn't just nothing's moving fast enough to activate it. So it doesn't activate. It picks up changes in each image as it's filming, and when there's a difference in the image, that's when it clues in. So it's extremely good at identifying things in the area. Now, you know, monitoring should not be your first line of defense, but these monitoring systems are, especially with like edge, are extremely sophisticated in being able to identify something in the area, and they can send you an alert and let you know if there's something in the pool area that should not be in the pool area. So that's something that you know, if monitoring. I love the system we do, got a new code, but our I don't believe our old code is working, because they changed, they changed a few things on the site, but it's edge. I believe you can still find it through camera. We'll get all that stuff updated. And I got a meeting with them, actually a phone call with them tomorrow, to make sure that we get that straightened out. So hopefully we'll get that on the new coupon code, the new website and all that to make sure that you guys can find that. But it's it was camera. I now it's called Edge, and it's extremely intelligent monitoring system. The only thing else I wanted to cover before we go is Kim safety, chemical safety. We get a lot of issues. See it every year, people have destroyed a lot of things in their in their garages. People have destroyed a lot of things in their sheds because of storing chemicals improperly. Y'all just get these outdoor chests. Try to keep them in a shaded area where the sun's not beating directly on it, if that's at all possible, but you do not want to keep chlorines, acids and stuff like that in your garage or even in a shed. If there's anything else in that shed that you need to protect these buckets or bags of chlorine materials or acidic materials, the vapors from those can escape those buckets. Those buckets are made to gas off if pressure builds up and that gas is extremely acidic. Y'all chlorine gas has a pH of point 1.1, all right, the scale does go below zero, but zero is pretty much where we set these most acidic stuff. So point one is how acidic this chlorine gas is. Y'all that's going to eat some stuff up. Yeah, that's going to corrode some metals within our DFW pull owner group, and you're welcome to join our group if you're in the DFW pull area or if you're in other areas. I've started groups everywhere else. They haven't really kicked off much yet, but the DFW area is extremely active, and a lot of people, I'm so, so proud when somebody asks, Hey, where did I store my chemicals? And there's so many people that come in about how much damage was that caused them, because they used to store their chlorine or whatever in their garage and all the damage it caused. I had a client once upon a time. Actually, I think I've had two clients once upon times that stored liquid chlorine under their kitchen sink because they thought that would be a good place for it, or under their utility sink, and that gassed off a little bit, and then that that chlorine gas from that corroded the plumbing going into the sink, because they had metal tubing coming up and going into the sink, and then that leaked and started spraying. And they end up flooding the first floor of their house just from storing chlorine in their home. So you don't want to keep any of these chemicals that are that are possibly corrosive or possibly dangerous in your house. And on some of these chemicals, if they mix, they may be perfectly fine on their own, but if you mix them with something else, they can be very hazardous. They can put off very dangerous fumes. They can put off very corrosive fumes. You can pour Coca Cola and calcium hypochlorite shock, and that can start a fire, all right, if you put put it just a little bit of oil, if you're storing this your shock, your Cal hop shock, in your garage, and you get a couple drops of motor oil or whatever on it, that. Can start a fire. So you don't, you know if you're going to have a fire, have it outside. And when these outdoor chests, yeah, don't, don't, do you don't want that fire in your house or in your garage. If you're going to have a fire and something's going to go wrong, you want it outside. In this chest, it needs to be something that can drain easily. So if you get a little bit of a spill, you can rinse it down, wash it out of the bottom of it. You want to make sure it vents fairly well. It doesn't seal tight. So if it is putting out any fumes, those fumes can go out into the atmosphere and not build up in there. Anytime you open a bucket of chlorine or a gallon of acid or anything like that, you don't want to be, have yourself in a position where you can inhale the fumes from that many, many times I have burned my lungs a little bit. I've burned my lungs pretty bad a couple times I've given myself pneumonia from the fumes from a tab bucket and a shock bucket from me open it up and have having my face close to it, because I'm trying to move in a hurry. I open up a bucket had a little bit of moisture in it, and that chlorine started releasing from that hard material, that calcium material, and was just sitting in that bucket, and I got a big breath of it, and it burned my lungs. You have to be careful with that stuff. So just make sure, if you're storing chemicals, that you're if you're keeping alkalinity increase or y'all that's that's a fine thing. It's not going to hurt you. I mean, you could put in a glass of water and drink it. It's not going to hurt you. Maybe use it as a barrier between two products that are not friendly, that are not okay to be around. Keep things in this big chest, keep them separated. If you have a spill, do not use a vacuum cleaner to vacuum up this spill, because if you vacuum up something that, if it mixes it with something else, it can be dangerous, and you vacuum it up into that vacuum cleaner, your vacuum cleaner may be become a little bit of a flame thrower. It's you're sucking that air in there. You're creating a little bit of flame because of flammable chemicals and mixed with something and started a little bit of a fire. And you burn up your vacuum cleaner. So you just want to be very careful if you have a little spill. The best thing is dilute, dilute, dilute, dilute. Keep bicarb on hand. If you ever spill acid, you want to have some bicarb, some sodium bicarbonate, close or alkalinity increase or close that you can put it on it to dilute it so it's not as acidic anymore. That's the best thing you can do. And then it's dilute, dilute, dilute, dilute with water. The best way to clean up spill chemicals is to put it into the pool. Don't ever mix two chemicals together, especially in the same bucket. There's a couple films out there on YouTube and Tiktok and all those other places of this lady mixing stuff on her deck, and she put two chemicals together in the same bucket, and it foamed over. And all these fumes are coming out. She's scrambling around like crazy. I guarantee you she never got that stain out of her deck, because I guarantee you that etched her deck right there where all that right, so just be extremely careful with your chemicals. Do not store them in your house. Even salt, y'all, there's no reason to go buy a bunch of salt because you're saving two bucks a bag. Alright, buy salt as you need it. I have a story where I stored salt in a storm cellar. It wasn't actually me, as my mother in law stored a bunch of salt in a storm cellar, and they had a lot of canned goods down there, probably 1000 cans of beans and peas and corn and everything else that salt in a stagnant environment goes airborne, and it corroded every last can of food, and it all dumped into the floor of that storm cellar and flooded it. We had like 12 inches of stew in the back of that storm cellar. So salt, I know it was gross, but salt, even in a stagnant environment, is not a good thing to have, so don't even keep a lot of salt in your garage. Y'all it you're going to run some things you don't want to run. So just be very careful with your chemicals. Do not store them in your house if they have any kind of hazard at all, hazard rating at all. Do not store them in your home or in your garage or around anything that you want to keep in good condition, because they especially if it's metal, because it's going to destroy it. So that's all we got time for today. We actually ran a little late. This was actually going to be a short so want to give a shout out to all our sponsors pull works. Thank you very much for your sponsorship and for backing us. We love you to death. We we have three poor works locations. We're actually having a grand opening at our Roanoke, Roanoke, Texas, we're having our grand opening. It's going to go all the way through the end of April. We got pool works North Richardson hills, and pool works lantana and all the other porks across nation. Y'all stop in, say hi, telling Frank told you to stop by. Say, grand openings all in. Yeah, Indiana, we got our people up in Indiana. They're having their grand opening. We love them. They're good people. But porks, coast to coast. 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