Surviving Pool Hell Week, Sahara Dust, Crazy Critters & Sketchy Pool Products | Ep 180

Dive into Episode 180 of The Deep End Pool Podcast! This week, your solo host covers navigating the "hell week" of Memorial Day in the pool industry, preparing your pool for heavy storms and potential Sahara dust clouds, and even a creepy critter encounter. Plus, a deep dive into how salt chlorine generators really work and a critical look at a circulating "miracle cure" pool product and its misleading claims. Tune in for essential pool maintenance tips, expert advice, and a dose of honesty to keep your pool sparkling and safe.

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• 0:00 - Welcome to Episode 180 and This Week's Topics 
  
  
• 0:47 - Sponsor Shout-outs & Podcast Focus 
  
  
• 1:42 - Jackie's Absence & Memorial Day "Hell Week" 
  
  
• 3:07 - Pool Heater Woes & Planning Ahead for Parties 
  
  
• 4:14 - The Working Scoreboard! 
  
  
• 5:10 - Preparing Your Pool for Heavy Rains 
  
  
• 6:37 - Killing Algae Faster Than It Multiplies 
  
  
• 9:39 - Overcoming Extenuating Circumstances for Pool Health 
  
  
• 11:00 - The Five Pillars of Pool Care (and Why Chemistry Isn't Everything) 
  
  
• 12:57 - Post-Rain Pool Care & Algae Prevention 
  
  
• 13:58 - Crucial Drainage Checks Around Pool Equipment 
  
  
• 17:37 - Cyclone Filter Cleaner Commercial 
  
  
• 18:16 - Q Later Metal Eliminator Commercial 
  
  
• 19:04 - The Sahara Dust Cloud & Pool Impacts 
  
  
• 22:04 - Phosphates and Salt Pools Explained 
  
  
• 23:25 - How Salt Chlorine Generators Actually Work 
  
  
• 25:29 - Maximizing Your Salt System with a Variable Speed Pump 
  
  
• 31:02 - Blu Ray XL Commercial 
  
  
• 31:44 - Fluidra Commercial 
  
  
• 32:23 - Critter Time: Snakes in Pool Pumps! 
  
  
• 36:31 - Exposing a "Miracle Cure" Product Scam 
  
  
• 43:18 - Final Thoughts & Sponsor Thanks

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Frank Disher is a 29-year pool pro. He and his wife, Jacque, operate a successful swimming pool company in the DFW Texas area, including retail stores, service and repair departments, and renovation department

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Transcript

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Hey guys, welcome to episode 180 of the deep end. Got a lot going on this week. Be by myself. Jack is not with me, but we're gonna be talking about Memorial Day. We made it through Memorial Day, which is hell week in the pool industry. We got a lot of storms popping up and causing a few problems for people. Got Sahara dust cloud coming our way. Ooh, that. It ain't that big of a deal, really. I mean, it have it have some effect, but not much. And gonna be talking about some critters, some critters we've been finding in the pools, and some cool little videos on that, and also some product questions, a product that's out there blowing up everybody's inbox and just want to discuss it a little bit one of these miracle cures. Y'all stay tuned. Welcome

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Hey guys, welcome to the deep end. I am by myself today. Jackie had some spinal injections this week. She's suffering some from some side effects of that. She'll be back with me next week, I'm sure. But she's just not feeling up to it, just not not feeling her best. So we're gonna go and shoot this solo, so we'll see how this goes. Got a few things happened this past week. Course, we've made it through Memorial Week. Memorial Day, that's considered hell week in the pool industry. Everybody big parties, planned, graduation parties, that kind of thing. A lot of things going on. People using their pools for the first time, and a lot of people looking at their pools for the first time and realizing, Hey, we got some problems. And a lot of scrambling trying to get people up and running, doing everything we can to get pull swimmable, turning them from green to blue. And a lot of the processes that we use, you know that are quick cures for some pools, but it doesn't always work. You can't always count on being able to turn a pool around quickly. So if you let that happen to you this year, let's not let it happen again. You know, pay a little closer attention. If you know you got something coming up, give it a few weeks notice. Because, uh, pool guys are busy. Y'all this time of year, we are running around like crazy just trying to get everybody taken care of, and we've had some cooler weather. After a really hot day or two, we had some cooler weather. So the pools cooled down a little bit, and people are going out for the first time and they want to turn their heater on and realizing, hey, our heater ain't working. Yeah, y'all need to be checking this stuff out ahead of time. It's, you know, a lot of times you got to wait on parts. Repair guys may not be available, you know, who knows what's going on with that heater, but, you know, give people enough time they can get it fixed. So that's just really frustrating. People getting angry with us, you know, calling us three days before they have a party, and we're already booked from sun up to sun down, and people are mad because we can't get out there and get their heater fixed today because they have a party tomorrow, and their water's a little cold. So when you got a big event coming up like this, as soon as you plan the event, go outside, turn some things on and off. See, see, see what's working, see what ain't working, and just make sure you're ready for the party. You don't want to be scrambling. Some guys will put things aside. And, you know, take care of people that are willing to pay a little bit of extra for the quick response. But that's really not a good way to do business, because if you know, if you had somebody scheduled, it's not right to Unschedule somebody so you can take care of somebody that's just got a little, you know, deeper pockets. So in the future, let's try to get that taken care of in advance. You know, it really help yourself out, take some stress away. And, you know, let the poor guys take care of real emergencies, and not just, ooh, I waited too long emergencies. But if you notice, got the scoreboard on tonight. The scoreboard does work. We had a few people ask us say, does that scoreboard you got on the wall? What's the deal with that? And it does work. It does keep time. It keeps score. Does everything horn even works? Oh, and it is freaking loud, but Jackie hates it when I hit that thing. Or dogs don't like it. It's kind of freaks them out because it is loud. It's a regular scoreboard that came out of a high school gym, and I've got a really good deal on it, weird, weird situation where I just happened to come across it and scored me a scoreboard. But I want to go ahead and turn that sucker off when we go to break, because it does. We got a little bit of background noise that comes out of it, because it has, you know, some generators and stuff going on power and all those lights, but it gives me some background noise. So I'm hoping you guys ain't hearing it. I start by some other, other things that have been going on. We've been getting a lot of big, heavy rains, big storms coming through West Texas. I mean, you know, taking their bowling ball size hail, and, you know, a lot of heavy rains in the DFW area. And want to talk a little bit about, you know, some things you can do, you know, to be prepared for these heavy rains. Just make sure you got some extra chlorine on hand, you're going to want to super chlorinate. Not necessarily shock. Shock is a term used for reaching break point chlorination. So we really don't want to use that term. Some people get a little bit upset when you use that term. So it's basically just super chlorinating. Whenever we get these heavy rains, you're introducing a lot of stuff into the pool, lot of organic material, stuff that's gotten blown up into the clouds, and, you know, a lot of stuff that's, you know, it's going to help algae. And there's algae comes in with your rains and comes in with your winds. So you might want to, you know, just make sure that you're ready for that after a big, heavy rain, you want to test before you do anything. Don't just go out there and just start throwing chlorine at it you want to test before you add any chemical. And any chemical you add, you really want to be able to test for it. So just keep that in mind. But storm season, you know, keep a little extra, either calcium hypochloride on hand, or keep some liquid chlorine, some sodium hypochlorite. Keep that on hand and test your water immediately after rain. It doesn't hurt to spike it maybe a little bit before rain, but after rain, you know you're going to be diluting your sanitizers, and that's if you're introducing a lot of algae with this rain. And say, we get a two or three inch rain, which really isn't that uncommon, over a day or so to get that much rain, you can really dilute your chlorine levels, and if you're knocked down those sanitizer levels, well, your algae can grow uninhibited, and that's not a good thing. And I've talked about it before. Our whole goal, not our whole goal, but a big part of keeping a pool beautiful is killing algae faster than it multiplies. So to do that, you have to have enough sanitizer to kill that algae faster than it multiplies. You can either do it that way, just, you know, up the sanitizer. Make sure you have plenty of sanitizer, but you can lower the sanitizer, if you'll slow the growth of algae. You can do that by using phosphate removers, stuff, mineral systems like blu ray, XL. You can use those products to slow the growth of algae, and then you can use a little bit lower chlorine and still kill algae faster than it multiplies. I've talked about borates. I love borates. We put borates in every pool that we service. We take it up to 50 parts per million. And borates is kind of like using a phosphate remover, you know, it slows the growth of algae. So if you're slowing the growth of algae, and our whole goal is to kill algae faster than it multiplies. And with consideration that our real goal is keep the water safe. So we want to kill bacterias, the viruses, amoebas, you know, pathogens, anything that can make us sick. You know, that's the real goal. We just we don't want to get sick, but most of those things are easier to kill than algae. So if we're managing to kill algae faster than multiplies, well, then we're keeping the water safe. So if we're slowing the growth of algae, we can use less chlorine to kill the algae faster than multiplies, or we don't have to do anything to slow the growth of algae. We can have some phosphates in the water. We can have, you know, no borates. We can just let the water do its thing, and just make sure that we have enough sanitizer in the water with a good pH to kill the algae faster than it multiplies. And again, that number is seven and a half percent. That's 7.5% of your Cya in sanitizer kills your algae faster than it can multiply with a good pH. So if you're managing that Well, you shouldn't have any algae issues, and you don't need any of this extra stuff. But if you have extenuating circumstances. That can become a problem. So if you do have extenuating circumstances, like you do have dogs that swim, you have a couple Golden Retrievers that just want to live in the pool, and they're swimming, swimming, swimming, constantly getting out, getting in. If you got several kids that swim, pool gets a lot of use. You have crape myrtles surrounding your pool. And right now, those crape myrtles are dropping like crazy and starting to cover the pools. It's going to get worse, but, but it's it's fairly bad right now, because everything's blooming and doing well. You can help your chlorine by slowing how fast the algae can grow and overcome some of these things. And that's where we like to use borates, Blu ray Excel, the mineral purification system, or even a phosphate remover. Phosphates, is algae food. If you remove the algae food, the algae cannot populate. I'm catching myself saying populate now, but the algae can't, you know, grow and double. Because, you know, one cell becomes two, becomes four, becomes 816, 3264, on and on and on. So if we can slow how fast that happens. It takes less chlorine to kill. It faster than it multiplies. So if you can manage your pull Well, you don't need all this other stuff. You can just have good water balance. It's good pH, good alkalinity, good cy. Keep all that in line. PH is very, very important. But if you don't have all this other stuff working against you, you can just have seven and a half percent of your Cy in free chlorine, in a good pH, and you should be killing your algae faster than multiplies. If you have extenuating circumstances, like we were saying, you can slow the algae growth, and then you should be able to manage it better with even lower chlorines. So just keep that in mind if you are having problems, you know, the first thing is, you know, the five things we've talked about them? Well, I covered, I cover this a lot. You got to be brushing, got to be removing debris, because dead organic matter feeds live organisms like algae in plants. So we're keeping that debris out of the pool and keep it from breaking down and releasing nutrients that algae needs. We need good circulation. That's extremely important. If you don't have good circulation, if you're not getting water exchanged frequently in all parts of the pool, then you're going to have dead spots. Dead it doesn't matter how good your chlorine is and your chemistry is in the middle of the pole. If you have a lot of dead spots, those dead spots can start growing algae. The algae spores are double, double, double, double. Every three to four hours, casting spores out into the water, wiping out your chlorine, and all of a sudden you can't keep enough chlorine. So circulation is extremely important. You got to have good filtration. And then the last thing is chemistry. You can make up for the other four a little if you're a little bit weak in the brushing, the organic material in the water, the circulation and the good filtration, you can make up for it with extra chemicals. But that's expensive. We don't really want to do that. We would rather use less chemicals, get the other four things in line, and then chemistry becomes much more simple, and it's easier to stay on top of good chemistry if you're not having to overcome problems because you're not accomplishing the other four things. So I just want to talk about that, because these rains do cause a lot of problems. But you can super chlorinate after a big rain. You do want to test your water pretty quickly before algae can get established, because established algae is much more difficult to kill than algae that's just getting introduced. You don't want it to get set up on your surfaces. Get after it quick. After a big, heavy rain, you want to get out there and test your water, get your water balance right, get your sanitizer levels up, maybe even spike it a little bit, you know, take it up to 789, parts per man, and burn up all this crap that got introduced in your water. Get that taken care of, and hopefully you're not dealing with it for 3456, days. Hopefully it's just that one spike, water balanced. You're done with it. Now, something else that we've been seeing because of some of these heavy rains, and I really want to encourage people to do this, is you need to get out there and during a heavy rain, or take a hose out there, whatever you can do. You need to check the drainage around your pool equipment. We've been replacing a lot of pull pumps lately and a lot of pull motors lately, because people's pull equipment is all of a sudden getting flooded. Now it may not have flooded last year. It may not have flooded the year before. You may not never have had a problem, but the soil. Oil rises over time, y'all, if you got a concrete equipment pad, and it's always been at the same level, but then you but you have a lot of grass and stuff growing around it, that area around that pad can rise, and you really don't even realize it. It's such a gradual rise, you don't realize that you've created a pit, a slight pit that your pool equipment is sitting in, and these pump motors only sit a couple inches off the concrete pad. So if you've let you know, grass has grown and gotten really thick, and then during a heavy rain, that water cannot drain away from your pool equipment, you can suddenly found out that your motor is sitting in water, and all it takes is that last little bit a quarter inch of rise in water to finally get up in that motor and short it out, and now you're dead in the water. I guess that'd be one way to put it. You want to, you know, check your drainage around your pool equipment. Last year, we went through a lot of this. I mean, we were doing a few motors every week because we kept getting these big, heavy rains come in and people's, you know, grass and their equipment, area, the elevations have changed. Were changed around it, and all of a sudden the water would build up, getting these motors and short amount, and that's not a good thing. That's a That's an expensive fix. So just get out there. Just make sure you got good drainage in y'all. A lot of times it looks like, Oh no, that looks like it a drain. It looks like my water can run off really good. But it may not. It can be deceiving. Elevations can can throw you off. It may look like it can drain, but if you go out there during a heavy rain, you may see that it's not draining you you're creating a little pond there, and just high enough to fry your pull equipment. So make sure you put some eyes on that. But hey guys, it is already time to go to break. So we're going to go to break. Thank you to our sponsors. We got pull works, if there's not a porks near you, become the porks near you. See you later. Metal Eliminator in stain prevention. That's great. Products, love you guys, see you later. Blu Ray, XL, mineral purification systems, Blu ray all day. And fluidra, makers of Jandy and Polaris. Pull products. I love my players, cleaners and our Jandi pumps, filters, heaters. I love all their equipment. Thank you fluidger for sponsoring us, and we'll be back in a minute. Why should you skim? Why you higher up? Hey, Jackie, hey Frank. Have you ever wondered how you can clean between all those pesky filter pleats on a cartridge filter. Yeah, I lose sleep over it. I mean, it's so tedious and it takes forever, I can never seem to get them all clean. Well, here's a pro tip. Try the cyclone filter cleaner. It uses water pressure from your garden hose to spin the filter as you clean it. This allows all the filter pleats to get thoroughly cleaned out. And the best part is it is fast and doesn't hurt your back. Wow. The cyclone filter cleaner. You got it. The cyclone filter cleaner, you can thank me later. Thanks. 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It comes across about at the equator, maybe a little south of the equator, headed west comes up over, you know, the Amazon comes up around Mexico and the Gulf of America, a little bit just as it just about to poke in the Texas and South United States. It starts blowing east, and then it looks like Florida. Last year. I know Florida got it much worse than we got, but it looks like they'll again, get it pretty bad. But the thing about this Sahara dust cloud, it will raise your alkalinity a little bit to. Typically it'll dirty your pools a little bit, which will clog your filters, you know, more than usual, but it's not typically extreme. But you know, things don't have to be extreme. You can be on the edge of bad, but still managing, and then something like this comes around, and all of a sudden, you're behind a power curve, and now you got problems this Sahara dust. It also brings in phosphates. It introduces a lot of phosphates into the pools, and that's already a problem with us guys, because they're treating a lot of our water delivery systems, you know, our underground plumbing and stuff, ever since all that stuff happened up in Michigan, with those people getting sick from the corrosion of the potable water systems going to people's homes, they use phosphates to help coat that plumbing, that underground plumbing as it's taking it to people's homes, and they coats it, helps protect it, keeps it from breaking down, and hopefully will keep help people from getting sick. But when you're adding that water to your pool, you're adding that heavy dose of phosphates that they put in the system to help treat your pools. Typically, it's not a constant kind of thing. They typically do in big doses, and you may be fine with your phosphates, and all of a sudden, bam, phosphates are high, and all of a sudden you got problems when you didn't have problems before. Well, the same thing happens. You know, if we get the Sahara dust and you're right there teetering on the edge, and awesome, bam, you get a little bit of Spike and phosphates. And if you were having some minor issues that you were able to manage barely, and all of a sudden we get a little spike. Okay, now maybe may not, can manage it, and all of a sudden you got problems. So that's something to consider with this dust coming in from the Sahara. And you know, you can also introduce bacteria. It can introduce funguses, or fungi funguses. I know better than that. I know it's fun guy, but it's again, if your manager pull Well, this may not, you know, it's it shouldn't be overwhelming. It's the pools that were on the edge or close to going bad. This may just be just enough to push it over the edge and all of a sudden you got problems. So you can manage the phosphates. I we use borates in all of our pools, so I'm not real concern with phosphates until they get really high, unless it's a salt pool, because phosphates at high levels. You know, phosphates coat things. That's why they use it to treat the water systems, the plumbing in the water systems, because it coats things and helps keep them from breaking down. Well, it will also coat your salt cells. And if it coats your salt cells, and now you're not getting the breakdown of the sodium chloride from you know when salt water the way a salt cell works, when salt water passes through the salt cell. If you look in the salt cells, you have these plate and they're positive, negative, positive, negative, positive, negative, positive, negative. And you have an electrical charge that jumps from, you know, positive to negative. Well, when you have the sodium chloride molecule passing between these plates, and you have this electrical charge jumping over, it breaks down that sodium chloride and breaks apart the molecule, and then you're producing chlorine along with some other things. But if you coat those plates and you slow that breakdown, the effectiveness of that electrical charge breaking down these molecules, all of a sudden, you're producing less chlorine. So that's that's where phosphates is really more of a problem with the salt pool than it is a tab chlorine pool, or somebody uses liquid chlorine or liquid chlorine injection. However you're managing your pool, phosphates have more I believe they cause a little bit more of an issue with the salt pool than than it does other chlorine feed systems. And a salt chlorine generator is typically a slow chlorine production process, and if you just slow it down a little bit, or even if you don't slow it down a little bit, and you add an extra load to your chlorine, it takes a salt system longer to catch up. And you know, this is a good time to talk about how a salt chlorine generator works. The way salt chlorine generators work is that percentage, when you set them at a percentage to what that percentage typically is on most salt systems. There may be others out there that do it differently, but you know, everybody thinks, Well, I'm just gonna put it on Super chlorinate, and I'm gonna get a lot of extra, but I'm having trouble keeping up, so I'll just put it on Super chlorinate, and then I'm good. You know, it's going to give me all this extra chlorine. A salt cell generator can only produce so much chlorine, and when it's producing, it's producing all it can produce. It cannot go into. Hyper drive and produce extra chlorine. When it's operating, it's making chlorine as fast as it can make it. But what the percentage is, when you see these systems, and you can set them at 20% 40% 35% some of them, you can do it by single, single digits. When you take it like, say, if you're running at 100% that means, when you're satisfying the flow that that salt cell needs to generate chlorine, it's generating chlorine. If you set it at 50% then it's going to produce half the time. But when it's producing, it's producing all it can produce. It cannot produce any more. It will not produce any less. It's just producing a less amount of time. So if you're at 100% if you're satisfying the flow and your system's working properly, and you have proper salt levels, it is producing chlorine, as long as you're satisfying all those requirements, proper flow and good salt levels. It's producing, all right, at 50% it's producing half the time. And some of the systems they run, they have two hour cycles. I think some of the systems may have three hour cycles well. So if it's on a two hour cycle that its production is based on, and you have it set at 50% then it will produce for an hour, it will be off for an hour, it will produce for an hour, and then it will be off for an hour, and it does that as long as it everything is satisfied with flow and salt content. Now what you can do if you're having trouble keeping up, and this is why I love variable speed pumps is you run your pump 24 hours a day. You run it just enough overnight. You can have spikes. You can have higher levels during the day, lower levels at night. But have it where you're always satisfying the flow needs of that salt cell. So if you're running it all night, and you're satisfying the flow needs of that salt cell, and it's costing you very little electricity to run at that low of a speed. But now you can produce for much longer during the day, and you'll be able to knock your percentages back. So if I'm only running it for eight hours, and I'm producing at or I have it set to 100% for eight hours, and that's all the chlorine I need for that day. And but after that eight hours, it turns off. Now it's off for 16 hours. I'm not introducing any more chlorine to that pool for 16 hours. But if I have this variable speed pump, and I'm running these lower speeds now, I can, you know, I'm tripling the time, so I should be able to go 1/3 of the max production of that salt cell. And we need to take into consideration if we are only running it for eight hours and setting it at 100% and that doesn't matter the percentage, we can cut it in thirds. Now, instead of me just all I can do for eight hours and then nothing for 16, you know, I can start having some problems during that 16 hours. I can have stuff get introduced that I need to be oxidizing, and I'm using up my chlorine, and I dropped to a lower level, putting me at risk at algae and other things, being able to start to multiply. But now, if I'm cutting that to 1/3 and running it for triple the time, but smaller bites for each cycle and 1/3 of a cycle. Offer two thirds, 1/3 of a cycle, all for two thirds. All right, now I'm producing chlorine 24 hours a day. I'm producing chlorine when the sun's not on the pool, burning up some of that chlorine so I can even build up a little extra punch in the morning, where it typically people are running it in the morning to the afternoon. Well, come morning, they haven't been producing all night and the sun's coming up, and all of a sudden they got a little bit of extra load. So you get a little bit of rain during the night, or some winds or whatever, your chlorine is getting used up trying to oxidize all this stuff. And now, all of a sudden we're generating 100% but we're playing catch up now. Well, if we're doing these little bits where we run it at a slower percentage or lower percentage, and we're running it for much longer, we're always little bit of chlorine, little bit of chlorine, little bit of chlorine. Around the clock, my salt system is going to be much more effective running it in that type of environment than it will be at just trying to get all I can get in there for eight hours and then nothing for 16. So another reason to have a variable speed pump, if you have a salt system, you can really get a lot more work out of your salt system. And. If you'll run it for longer hours, it can only produce so much chlorine. And if, if you're having trouble keeping up with your chlorine, and you have a salt system, then possibly you know what you need to run for longer hours, so you give that cell, that system more time to produce more chlorine, because it ain't like, you know, it can just make up for 16 hours, you know, you can't run it at 200% you can only run it at 100% maximum, and then when the pump shuts off, you're not making anything. So we want to make sure that we're giving the salt system a chance to be able to keep up with these chlorine levels and or the chlorine demand by running more hours. You know what? Let's go ahead and do another break. Then I want to come back and I got one more thing I want to talk about. It's, it's, well, actually, I got a couple things I want to talk about. So we're going to go to break, and now we'll see in a minute. 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You tested the water, Hey guys, we're back. Episode 180 I'm alone. Thank you to our sponsors. I appreciate your messages. I was going to talk a little bit about critters. Y'all, here's, you know, it's critter time. You know, things are warming up. Baby bunny season, finding baby bunnies and skimmers. I think that's about over. The bunnies are grown up a little bit. We're not finding near as many baby bunnies and skimmers, and that's a sad thing. Everybody likes a baby bunny, right? But snakes, yeah, snakes are, you know, popping up and pop it around, and seeing quite a few snakes here and there. We saw a Copperhead last week. You know, that's the bad one. We don't like the copperheads, but this is an odd video. Check out this video. Hopefully you're watching and if you're if you're listening to us on just the audio, go. Go. Find the video. Find this part here. It's gonna be somewhere around 35 minutes, 36 minutes, but this live snake in a pump pot. This was given to me by Sean Davis. Sean Davis runs Aqua line. Pulls out of Hazel, Texas. He's a good friend of mine. Great guy. He's a big Jandy warranty station. Sean really knows the stuff. If you ever got a Jandy question, Sean Sean's your guy. But this video, this in this is a diamond back water snake, not rattlesnake. It's not a Copperhead. This is a Diamondback Water Snake. They are not poisonous. But y'all, this thing in this pump basket is alive. You can see it striking the top of the pump pot and trying to get out with this pump running well, Sean took the pump lid off and rescued this poor snake. But y'all that's a little creepy. A live snake in the pump pot. I can imagine if Sean would not have seen this thing in the pot when, when he opened it and went to empty that basket, that big old snake, because he's not, he's not a little snake. I mean, he's no giant snake, but he's not a little snake, and it was just a little crazy. I've never seen a live one in a pump basket. I have found snakes and frogs and everything else dead in pump baskets that have gotten pulled through skimmers, but this never a live snake, so that's a little creepy, but reminder when you're going to empty your skimmer baskets. You look before you go, putting your hand in there. Yeah, it's whether it's something venomous or whether it's just something gross. You don't want to touch it and you want to see it before you go, sticking your hand in there, because I say it all the time. What's worse, you know, getting bit by something that can hurt you or. Or something scaring the fire out of you, and you jerking away from it and jumping back, makes you fall off the wall, or something, like I did one time it hurt my back so but anyway, that's a little video. Thank you, Sean for that video. That's a little creepy, dude. I'm not sure I'm real cool with that. The last thing I want to talk about is there's a product out there that's, boy, I'm seeing their ads everywhere I look. And there's a lot of people questioning the legitimacy of this product. False claims, stuff like that. I don't know what is false I it's it's simple scoop. They say, all you do is add two cups, three cups, I guess, according to the size of your pool. And, you know, I don't like some of their claims. You know, they say your pool guys ripping you off. And, you know, pool stores suck. And y'all, I think your local pool guy's gonna be a lot more honest with you than some of the stuff that's being claimed here. One, they're not real upfront about the ingredients in this product. Now I'm pretty confident it has copper sulfate in it. Copper sulfate is a, I don't know if they have it listed as an algaecide, because it takes a lot to get to the through the EPA, if you're claiming to be an algaecide, but it has copper sulfate. Copper sulfate is an algaecide algae stat, that's one thing, but you don't really need it unless you're having issues. It's not really that necessary. As a non chlorine sanitizer in it has a few ingredients. It says it has balancers, clarifiers. I've heard rumors that may have some album in it. I can't verify all this because they're kind of, they're not real forthcoming on the ingredients. But anyway, I got looking as looking into this product and all right, this is where this led me. One of their experts. His Facebook page is pool guy, Paul, and it says 12 years experience in the pool industry. Says he has pull routes and cedar run Texas. There's some questions on whether this guy's for real or whether he's not real, but there's some things that are being said here that are not real for sure. One, there is no cedar run Texas. It doesn't exist, and which kind of tells me if pull guy, Paul probably really doesn't exist. He's, uh, possibly, a fake expert, because pool guy Paul does not have any pools in Texas, as far as I know. And pool guy Paul definitely is not see to run Texas unless he just built the city himself. 12 years experience. I'm sure he's got 12 years experience in something. And if he does exist. I don't think he's younger than 12, but his Facebook page was started April 18 of this year. Mr. Pool guy, Paul that has routes in Cedar run Texas. April 18 is when he started this page. I mean, there's a couple months ago, y'all. I mean, little over a month and a half ago. I mean, it's, you know, we're just now at the first of June, and in a month and a half, this guy is a marketing genius. He has 1700 followers on this six, seven week old Facebook page in cedar. Run from Cedar, run Texas. 1700 followers, 1200 likes. He has posted three pictures with comments, and they're very generic pictures. One of them's a frog on a deck. One of them's just some blanket, you know. Hey, here's some advice for you. One sentence advice, you know, hey, if it's raining, you may, I don't know, shock or something, something like that, but he's got only three posts on his page with 1700 followers. All right, the picture of the frog, it's a good picture of a frog. It actually may be Peter generated picture of a frog in a deck, but if you look at it close, but y'all, that's fake. That's a fake page, I'm sorry. And if you get to looking into it, if you look in the page, transparency. By the way, this is something you can do to check people out. You can look at page transparency and figure some things out. But the page manager, the location of managers, they're listed in three different locations, India, the Philippines and the USA, so And by the way, the picture pool guy, Paul, he does not look like he's from the Philippines or the Southeast Asia or anything like that. He doesn't look like he's from India, great country. I'm not dogging on you. He does look American, and that's one of the locations of the page managers. But pool guy Paul, with his six week old Facebook page and 1700 followers and 1200 likes, and you can see all the ads he's ran and pull guy, Paul's been running a lot of ads. He's He's ran about, you know, several ads a week in every ad pool guy Paul runs it, they don't show up on his page. When you run an ad on Facebook. You know, you can boost a post and that will show up on your page. But we. You run an ad on a page. That ad does not show up on your page, but you can go and see all the ads that pool guy, Paul has ran, and all of them are for simple scoop by pool day, pool day incorporated and in the page transparency, pool day Incorporated is responsible for this page. It says that. It says that right there on his page, when you get into looking into the, you know, the backside of his page. So, you know, I don't know about the product. Haven't tried it. I'm sure it's got some ingredients in it. But if you manage your pool Well, you don't need all those ingredients. Maybe it would help you if you were having problems. I don't know, but if you're going to fake being somebody to sell a product, that makes me very suspect of your product. And so pull guy, Paul and pull day, man, boy, I'm well, I'm just questioning you now. Everything I see about you, it makes me wonder, because I know you're false here. I know you're false here. This guy, poor guy, Paul, doesn't exist, and you're using a false page to push a product. And yeah, I don't, I don't appreciate that. You know, it's hard enough for people to figure out their pools. They don't need to mix in bogus product not I'm not saying this product is bogus, but they don't need bogus advertising and misleading information and unclear information to make things worse. So I just want to throw that out there. I mean, it may be a good product y'all. I mean copper sulfate, I mean, it's using a lot of products. It is an algaecide. But the way they push it is, and if you read the fine print, it does say, Hey, you still got to keep your water balanced. You still got to use a sanitizer, because it will not handle the pool by itself. And that's kind of how they push it. The guy in the commercial, in the gallon. The commercial that you see over and over and over, they're saying, Oh, two scoops a week. And, man, that's all I ever do. And three scoops a week, man, I don't have to have any of these other products. Still gotta have sanitizers. This thing, this product, is not a sanitizer, has a some non chlorine sanitizer in it. But that's not enough to manage your pool. You still got to keep good pH, you still got to keep good alkalinity, still have to protect your surfaces, protect your equipment with good water management, and you still have to have good sanitizers to keep algae at bay and keep the water safe. This product will not do it on its own. If you want to try it, just try it. I mean, it may be, it may work for you, but don't give up on the basics. The basics are still there. Still have to brush your walls, you still have to have good circulation, you have to have good filtration, you have to remove debris from the pool, and you have to have good chemistry, not just three scoops of this stuff. So I hope it is a great product. Anybody that's bought it, I'd like to hear some comments. I'm sure, you know, you put enough copper sulfate in water, it's gonna be hard for algae to grow, but you know, you can get staining. You can get they know, this is too much copper in the water. If you're not measuring and not testing, you know, can turn hair green, stuff like that. So you still need to be testing, still to be managing. I just don't want to see somebody get falsely led down a bad road by thinking they can just throw three scoops of this stuff. They don't have to learn anything else about their pull. It doesn't work that way. But guys, I appreciate your time. 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