Ep 183 Respect For The Pool Professionals, And Preventing Summer Algae Issue Tips.

Welcome back to The Deep End Pool Podcast! After a brief hiatus, Frank and Jacque are back to dive into more pool problems and solutions. In Episode 183, we discuss common issues faced by pool owners and service professionals, and the unwarranted criticism and accusations Pool Pros receive from Pool Owners.  And also highlighting practical troubleshooting tips. We explore the value of "Pool School," our in-depth program designed to empower DIY pool owners with the knowledge to maintain their own pools. Learn about our trusted sponsors, including Poolwerx, Blu Ray XL, Fluidra (Jandy & Polaris), and Cyclone Filter Tools, who help us keep pools healthy and safe. Tune in for expert advice and to catch up with Frank and Jacque!

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00:00 Intro, Sponsors & Show Start  
00:59 Health Updates & Holiday Catch-Up  
05:09 DFW Pool Owner Group Growth & Local Advice Importance  
09:40 Expectations from Pool Companies  
15:00 Misconceptions About Pool Pros & Pricing  
21:04 Water Temperature Problems & Cooling Tips  
22:29 July Giveaway: $5,000 in Prizes  
24:00 Algae, Chlorine, and CYA Management Tips  
30:00 Supplementing Salt Systems for Summer Demand  
33:12 Preparing for Fall & Smarter Chlorine Use  
35:00 Circulation, Filtration & Energy-Saving Advice  
37:48 Final Thoughts & Encouragement  
39:51 Outro & Contact Info  

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Steve, welcome to the deep end pool podcast for pool owners and the swimming pool service professional. All of our sponsors are brands that we know, trust and use in our own business. We are brought to you by pool works for healthy pool people. That's poolworks.com pool W, E R x.com, if there isn't a pool works near you, become the pool works near you. Special thanks to blu ray XL, the best pool mineral purification system in the industry, Blu ray all day. Blue Idra and their many brands, including candy pool equipment and Polaris, the most advanced automatic pool cleaners in the industry, Cyclone filter tools, save time, save water and save your back deep end pool. Podcast focuses on residential pool maintenance and may not cover commercial pool requirements. Please consult the CDC and your local authorities and code requirements for commercial pool maintenance. Now let's solve some pool problems with your host, Frank and Jackie Disher, Hey friends, welcome to the deep end with Brian Jackie, his sidekick in life and on the air. Yes, we're back. Hey, yeah, this. We had a couple weeks off. Y'all Frank, you've been sick. Frank been sick. God love him, and bless his heart with his cough. Meanwhile, I'm getting steroid shots the size of a ice pick in my neck and my back every week. So I mean, the sooner, the sooner you women understand that the reason I'm going to punch you in painful birth a child so women can understand how painful it is when a man gets a cold, and the sooner y'all understand this, the easier your lives will be. It's been more to cold y'all. It still ain't fixed. It may be mono or something. I don't know what it is. I haven't allowed him, probably from the nasty green pools I've been having to dive in. But it's, it's been rough, yeah, it's been rough. Some technical stuff that wouldn't, wouldn't go it was scary, scary, scary thought I lost all of our content, and I've been struggling, struggling, struggling, finally found it. Was able to bring it back and save it by roses from the dead here as we celebrate independence day. Yes, it is July 4. It were. Yeah, we're actually recording on July 4. Obviously, we have no family that loves us, that came in to swim in our No, I'm kidding. They're coming America. They're Land of the lonely land. Now they're coming tomorrow. We have a great friend in from New York City. New York, it's his daddy's birthday on the sixth and his birthday on the eighth. So he flew in to do that, and he's he's known my kids since they were born. Yes, so he's coming to take some new family pictures tomorrow. He's somebody y'all, yeah, he just published his third book, and these are photography books, and he's ridiculous. He's incredible. My theater head shots ever as I've been an adult. He's, am I an adult? I don't know. He's taken all that I know, right? It doesn't give me any credibility whatsoever. But yeah, so we're in this last book, which is so fabulous, is this third so anyway, he's coming tomorrow. We've got, yeah, check out his books, where the virtual is a sweater book, sweater book, and he's got some really famous people in this book. Y'all, y'all on the cover is Matthew Broderick and Sarah Jessica Parker. They're on the cover in the sweater. Carol Burnett's in this. Carol Burnett, Betty Buckley, there's so many famous people that, and he just had an idea. He got a sweater at a swift, a thrift swift store that he bought in Dallas when he lived in Dallas. He's from he's from here. And he just decided when people came over that he just put and just wrap up. And it became a thing. And then he moved to New York. Then he started writing letters to famous people to see if they would just take a picture in the sweater. Yeah. And sure enough, they did. So the first book's a sweater book. The second book is kind of his autobiography. Lived in crazy. And then the third book that was just came out is I'm gonna tell you a story, and we're in it, and we're mainly Jack. We have now. It's all of our family, but it's and it's so sweet. It's just everybody that has touched his life, that has encouraged him to do things, and so he has pictures that he took of them, and then how they touched his life. I'm going to tell you a story about whoever it is, and. All the things. So anyway, Steven Mosher, by the book, happy birthday to our Angelique on Saturday, Sunday. Yes, it'll be Sunday. We can't go through everything that happened three weeks or this. No, and I apologize for that, but we're gonna do some catch up. I got some finally. Got content recovered. We can't that I did with poolside tech Ben, forced to pull side. Tech came in and got two episodes gonna be releasing with him. Gonna be fabulous. I just lost it. We lost it. We covered it. Now just have to get it edited and get it out. But everything's been going on, by the way, Lipton sponsor me. Y'all, I drink gallons of this stuff. It's diet, green diet, green tea. I love this stuff. I hate tea, but boy, I drink this stuff by the gallon. Well, he didn't like water. No. Water's nasty. You know what? Fish doing that. Okay? It's gross. Y'all, I'm drinking my water, whatever. But anyway, yo what I want to talk about this week, it's not gonna be a very long show, but what I want to talk about this week is one. We got the Facebook group, the DFW poll owner group, and started this group. It's on Facebook. We're at 10,500 members. We're adding anywhere from 30 to 50 new members per day. There's about 400,000 pools in the DFW area. There's a few pros, mainly pool owners. And I started this group because national groups, you know it when it comes to your pool. Y'all, you really need local advice. Now, there's a lot of stuff that transfers from point to point to point to point. It doesn't matter where you're at. That still applies. But when it comes to managing a pool, it's really important that you understand that there's differences from New York to Minnesota to Florida Texas. There's little particular and peculiar things that are specific to your local area, and local pros and local people answering your questions is going to be much better. It drives me crazy. In these national groups, I love the national groups, I'm not dogging on you, but in these national groups, somebody will ask a question and there will be 15 opposing answers, and I don't know how people are supposed to decide what's right, what's wrong, right? And people, they don't ask the question, well, you know what are? Well, a lot of times they will ask the question, but a lot of times people just throw out an answer, and it could have nothing to do with their situation. There. There's so many things like, hey, we need more information. You know what? What are your readings? What's going on here, what's going on here? Can you send, can you post a picture of your pool equipment? You know, things like that. But somebody local is going to, going to that's familiar with the equipment that's in your area, that's familiar with the construction methods in your area, that's familiar weather, the weather that deal with the soil, everything that you typically deal with in a particular area is it's very important to understand that, yes, national groups, I'm not dogging on you, like I said, but you really need somebody that understands your local environment and what goes on in your area. Also, somebody needs to be in there deleting the bad answers. And that drives me crazy. And if you don't have a local like ours, is DFW. DFW is not indicative of what happens even in San Antonio. San Antonio is gonna be different. Houston's gonna be different. Everything's different, yeah, so, but you there. Somebody needs to be deleting the bad answers. Somebody needs to be kicking out the buttholes. Buttholes, you don't belong in a group. Yeah, it's a free country, all right, go start a butthole group. We don't say the B word. We do say the B word because some of y'all was buttholes, and you got no business being in a social group, because you're anti social, so get out of the freaking group. Go start a group buttholes for pools, and then you can be buttholes to each other all you want. But if you be a butthole in my group, out you go, if we don't allow businesses to dog on people, I'm selectively a butthole. You are so you've so non people II the last two weeks. Oh, no, I don't even know what to do. Not people anti social when I'm so sorry all of our friends and employees. Yeah, when I'm not feeling good, don't rub me wrong. But anyway, so we got this group. Well, we got this group, and somebody posted a really good question. They said, Hey, what should I expect from my pool company, my service company? Great question. And, yeah, because, and there's. Many things you can expect, because there's many levels of service that different businesses offer, and somebody responded with to get ripped off, as in, that's what you can expect from a pool company, straight up, went, kicks me off. Kicks me off. All right, y'all pool company, the average pool company, because it ain't like it was in the 80s and 90s. Yes, there still is the fly by night guys. There's still the guys that don't have adequate training. They have no business being in anybody's backyard. They have no business being in any business. They're unethical. They don't care to learn their trade. They're just out there. They just want to make a little extra beer money, so they're servicing pools. All right. They don't need to be taking care of people's pools, y'all, that's$100,000 investment you have sitting in your backyard. You don't need some Yahoo back there, messing with your equipment, adding chemicals to your pool. They can cause a lot of damage and cost you a lot of money. And then when things get bad and you call them out on something now the phone, it just goes to voicemail. They never call you back. You never got an address. But the pool business is much like many other businesses now, we've come a very long way, and there's many people that are in the industry like me. You know those people been in 1020, 30 plus years that have never ripped a single person off. And it's disheartening when somebody says, pull companies rip people off. Pull companies don't charge any more margin, actually less, far less margin, on average, than other industries. So pull businesses are not out there sticking it to people. Y'all, we have to operate. We have to mark things up. Come on, we're a business. We're not a hobby, and we're a small business. We're a small business. It takes money to pay, first of all, to pay employees well. So you get a good, loyal, well trained employee that wants to stay, you have to pay them well, but good trucks on the road to buy good products to use in the swimming pools, right, and all that. And if they got a retail store, you know, you know, I can guarantee you a pool store is making less margins on their products, on their good quality products, because that's what you will find in a pool retail store is good quality products. It's typically the same products they use in the field. So I guarantee you, they're making less on their good products than Walmart's making on those garbage products they're selling you, they're selling you inferior products, and they're making higher margins. But y'all don't have a problem with that. Yeah, Jake's trade is cheaper. It should be cheaper. It's not the same strength. It's different products. They don't have anybody there that can give you good advice. It's different. A pull business is in the business because they're experts, because they, well, the majority, Now, not all of them, yeah, not all. But, I mean, there's their fly by night, sure, but pool companies, you know, they're they work hard to perfect their trade, and they work hard in their trade, and they're not marking these things up like y'all think they are. Y'all pool guys are not running around in $150,000 cars, living in million dollar homes, and it's not that way. Most, most are struggling to make it. And the guys that don't charge enough, the first time something goes bad, that's when they disappear on you, and now you can't get a hold of them because they screwed up your pump. They can't afford to replace your pump because they messed it up. Messed it up, or they didn't be messing up. You're just accusing them of messing it up. It just went bad, and you're blaming them, and they can't afford it. One little thing goes wrong and they can't afford to fix it, and then they disappear on you pull companies work hard, a good pool company there. It's like any other industry, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, it's a trade. It's a real trade, y'all, it's not just some dude that can't do some anything else, so he's a poor guy. It is hard work and and we understand there's DIY out there. We're not against DIY. I get it. People, people have budgets. Well, I have, I mean, we got the DFW poll on a group trying to help DIY. If you need me, we're here, but we understand DIY. I don't want you screwing up your pool just because you're not using my service or not using my business. So, you know, I just wanted to, you know, I wanted to mention this and talk about this, that pull companies are not making giant margins. They're not ripping people off. For the most part. I get it in every industry. There's people out there doing things they shouldn't do, but you know, but if all you care about is the lowest price, you. And then there's a problem. You didn't get ripped off. You got what you paid for. And it's a big difference, y'all. If you went, you bought the cheapest product and put it in and it didn't work, you didn't get ripped off. Or you got the cheapest labor, the dude that would do it for 50 bucks, where everybody else is charging 150 or 200 that you didn't get ripped off. You got what you paid for because you got somebody that doesn't hasn't paid for the training, right? Hasn't spent the years in maybe not the last, hasn't climbed that hill. A pool business is making smaller margins than most any other industry out there. I can almost guarantee, on the average we're lower than most other industries. Y'all don't mind when Walmart makes a buck, but, boy, you mind when the small business that pays taxes that lives in your neighborhood, you got a problem when he makes a buck and it's just not right. You know, it's just not fair. I get a little fired up when people say you are. I get a little bit fired up when people accuse all pull businesses of being rip off artists, because we're not. We're, for the most part, we're good, honest, ethical companies that work hard to perfect our trades. And please learn where that divide is. You got the cheap fly by night guys. He's doing pulls this year. Next year, he'll be mowing lawns. But and then you got the guys that have really built a business. They've got their years in the trade. They go to training, they have good relationships with manufacturers and reps. And a lot of times, we only sell products that we have a good rep for, because when we if there is a problem with that product, then we got somebody we can go to say, hey, Grant, I'm having a problem with this. Let me take care of you. Frank, you know you're you go to our training. We know you know what you're doing. We know you're trying. We're going to take care of you where, if they bought some, you know, cheap pump off of Amazon, or cheap heater or whatever. They're not going to have the representation they need if they have an issue. So we're going to go to break and thank you for listening to my soapbox. And please stop hating on your pool guys. Y'all, come on now. Pool guys is people too, you know, just, just show us some love. Be understanding. We can mess up. We can mess up. And if we're a good, ethical business, if we do mess up, we can afford to fix it absolutely. And if we're not charging enough, guess what? We can't so we'll be back in a minute. 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They make a disc that you throw in the pool, kind of like those things you throw on to help hold heat, but the others, this product, apparently that helps cool the water. Who knows? I've never heard of it, so I'm trying to track them down. Hopefully that's something that we can get a deal for. Is for our DFW pull on our group people, and I think they're out of McKinney, Texas. Who knows our giveaways, yes. Oh, by the way, giveaways we are giving. We gave away $500 in June. Thank you. Gave away $500 in June to one of the DFW area local pool works is some people come in they get $500 exchange in product at whatever pool works is more convenient to them. We got nine in the area. I'll list them on the screen. But this month and month of June, we're giving away $5,000 y'all were given. It's three prizes. I guess the consolation prize is what you call it, is$500 that you can exchange for goods or services at a local pool works. Some restrictions apply, of course, second prize, runner up prize is Jackie. The runner up prize is $1,000 in goods or services from your local DFW area. Pool works, and our grand prize is $3,500 in goods and or services from a DFW local pool works. This is fantastic. We're getting some sponsorship from pool Corp, which is one of our main suppliers. We're getting sponsorship from Texas pool supply, which is heritage pool supply. And we're also we're getting sponsorship from fluidra, the manufacturers of Jandy and Polaris products. And of course, the local poll works are also all kicking in also. So this is fantastic. This is fantastic. It's a great giveaway. So make sure, if you're in the DFW area, make sure you join the group. Look for the post for the July giveaway. It be, will be tagged in the featured at the top of the page. And make sure you sign up. You just go in, you comment porks, and you also have to subscribe to our How to swimming pool page. You can find that YouTube, www.youtube.com, forward slash at symbol deep in Frank. So make sure, if you're in the DFW area, make sure you join the group and make sure you put in for the strong because it's a nice prize. Y'all Yeah, all right, what I want to talk about is the the things. And one, you know, people's pools are getting hot, so they're having starting to have trouble. The hotter the water gets, the more difficult it is to manage your water, your LSI goes up the hotter the water gets and so you can start having some scaling issues. But also algae is just chugging along full bore. Y'all, we've been getting a lot of rains, which introduces algae. And I just want to make sure everybody's focusing on one, your water balance. Don't forget about your water balance. This is when you'll scale your pool. So you want to make sure you have that LSI down there close to zero. If you're having trouble with your pH climbing a lot and you're constantly like you're only testing it once a week, and you're having to add a half gallon or three quarter gallon acid, especially if you have a salt pool, and you're having to push it. Way down. All right, start doing half doses. Y'all halfway through the week, stop doing these high spikes in your pH and start living at them. You know, don't three quarter gallon, three quarter gallon, three quarter gallon. Let's do, you know, half that, half that, half that more often and not let the pH get so far out of whack and give algae a chance to get going. Let's allow scaling to start happening. So let's monitor that much, much closer. Let's also watch our cya levels. The hotter the water gets, the more chlorine we're adding. So if you're not really managing your water well, especially if you're not on borates, you're adding a lot more chlorine tabs. And those chlorine tabs is they're 50% stabilizer, which is a problem in our pools. So everybody Cys are climbing. And we all know the math, if you follow my show, you know the math, the proper amount of chlorine that you need in the water with a decent pH is seven and a half percent of your stabilizer or cya level. So the higher your stabilizer level gets, the more chlorine it takes, so the more tabs you're adding, so the more stabilizer you're getting, so the faster you see why he climbs, and it just gets out of control. So let's watch that we can follow. You know, you don't have to just tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. You can also back that up with some maybe some super chlorinating with some liquid chlorine along with your tabs to help oxidize some of that stuff. So the chlorine from your tabs doesn't have to you can maybe cool the water shade. Shade works fantastic, y'all. Shade helps cool the water, helps slow down the algae growth, and it helps us manage it a little bit better. But you gotta watch that chlorine, guys, you gotta keep that chlorine up there. If you have, say, you have a salt system and you're running it at 60% and every week, when you test it, you're not hitting that seven and a half percent, it's say you're only hitting 4% or 5% you're not killing algae faster than it multiplies so and the problem with salt systems is they have to really struggle to try to overcome problems. They're very good at maintaining, but they're not really good at overcoming. So when you have, if you've fallen short and you're you haven't been killing the CLO the algae faster than it can multiply, then you need to dose it with something else, like a liquid chlorine or a Calcium hypochloride shock. Or if it's a salt pool, I don't mind using a dichlore. It has a little stabilizer in it. And in salt pools, sometimes you have to add stabilizer, but you have used that to give it a spike to overcome the issue, and then turn your salt cell up so it's producing more chlorine. Y'all a in on salt systems, the super chlorinate option that you get on a salt system, y'all it ain't, it can't produce much more chlorine. When a salt system is producing chlorine, it's producing all the chlorine it can produce, you're just cutting the amount of time with the percentage that you set it at. So they typically run on two hour or three hour cycles. So if it's a two hour cycle cell, and you have it set at 50% then it's going to work for an hour, all it can work for an hour, then it's going to be all for an hour, then it's going to work for an hour, then it's going to be off for an hour, as long as it has flow and it is energized, it will be producing at that percentage of time, not an extra amount of chlorine when it's working. So a lot of people, they end up at 100% or 80% and they can't. They cannot keep up with the chlorine demand on the pool, so you need to supplement. You can use chlorine tabs with a salt system. You're not hurting anything. It's just another way to get chlorine in there. And you can get past this really rough time where you need extra chlorine by putting a chlorine floater in the pool. Be careful not to let it get stuck on your tanning ledge or whatever where, because those tabs are very acidic and they can leave a scar. But if it's floating around the pool, just nice and well, then maybe supplement with a little bit of chlorine tab to help you get through this rough spot until, okay, I'm keeping up very, very well again. I can get rid of the chlorine tabs. Just let the salt system keep up. Maybe super chlorinate once in a while to oxidize anything. If you fell short, got a heavy rain, had a party, dog pooped in the pool, whatever. Let's get something. In there to spike that chlorine, oxidize all those organics, oxidize all that algae that's been kicking your butt for the last couple days, and then let the salt cell do its thing, and then the supplemental chlorine takes care of the problems and helps take some of the load off the chlorine that your salt cells trying to generate. You can also put an inline tab feeder with a salt system. There's nothing wrong with that, just make sure you follow instructions install it properly in the right sequence, and then you can have an inline chlorine feeder along with a salt system. Nothing wrong with that at all. Or you may want to use liquid chlorine, or dichlor or calcium hypochlorite, whatever you want to use. But don't expect a salt system to overcome issues. If it's already pushed near its limits, it's not going to overcome y'all, it's going to stay behind. And the more you stay behind, the more problems you get, and the more it costs, and the more effort it takes to get back in charge of your pull. So let's get on this. Let's not lose our pulls. Let's make sure we're keeping that chlorine at seven and a half percent of our sea way, or stabilizer if you're using borates. And you can use borates with your salt pulls Nothing says you can't use borates with that. It has the same benefits, even some better benefits with salt than it does with tadpoles. So you can get 50 parts per million, 60 parts per million of C of borates in the pool, and then that's going to help your chlorine go further that your that your salt system is generating, or if you're a tadpole, because if you're using borates, it's 5% of your Cy not seven and a half. Fives 1/3 less than seven and a half. It's 50% more from five to seven and a half. So it's easier for your salt system to keep up to kill algae faster than it multiplies. So the boy h is going to help you with your tap pools. You're going to be adding less tabs to keep that same residual. So if you're adding less tabs, you're adding less CYA, because these tabs are 50% cya. So add less tabs. You add less cya. So if your cya is lower, and you're going a percentage off your CYA, that means you need less chlorine. So you're adding less tabs. And see what we're doing here. We're kind of helping ourselves out. And then as soon as the water gets cool fall. Well, I know we're talking four months from now, the water temperature drops below 70 degrees. Now we get off of tabs altogether. Even if you're a tap pool, algae has gone dormant. We just have to super chlorinate once in a while, or shock. People will freak out when I say the word shock. We want to super chlorinate this, wipe out everything that got in the last couple weeks, because it's just kind of falling in, sitting there. We throw in the hand grenade, blow it up. It goes away. Little super chlorinate, 7899, parts per man, and then maybe two or three weeks later, chlorine drops down below one part per man. Do it again. And now come next spring, over the winter, since we haven't been added stabilized chlorine, our cya levels drop over the winter, and we go in the next spring at a nice low level, and we got plenty of room to climb during the summer and not have problems next year either. How cool is that y'all and if you got a big old, massive pool and you just can't keep up, okay? Or you got a pool that, you know, you got three dogs that swim, or you got these other issues going on that you just cannot get enough chlorine in the pool, this is when I recommend we start doing the other things. If we can't, if it's if it's becoming too hard to kill the algae faster than it can multiply under normal methods, now is a really good time to really look into doing the other things the blu ray Excel, which helps, really helps control algae so it takes less chlorine to kill it faster to multiply so we can keep up phosphate removers enzymes. Watch your metal levels. If you're using anything that has metal in it, I don't like using algaecides on a regular basis. Y'all chlorine is the best algaecide we got. But if we're in a situation where we cannot keep up with our normal methods, or it's just too overwhelming to do it that way. Okay, let's look at our phosphates. Let's look at controlling those. Well, let's get blu ray excel in there to help manage the org the organics in the water. Much, much better. Let's look at enzymes to help oxidize some of the things. So our chlorine does. Have to so let's get through this hot part of the summer and get on the other side and say, You know what? That was not that bad. That was the easiest summer I've had. Still got five basics. Still need to be brushing once a week. You still need to keep be keeping the debris out of the pool, because leaves, sticks, stuff like that dirt is releasing minerals and stuff that algae eats. So we want to keep that out of the pool circulation. I cannot stress good circulation enough make just try to get water everywhere in the pool. And the easiest way to do that is get that pool turning clockwise or counterclockwise. I like taking the jet slightly down, not hitting the surface, going slightly down, all going the same direction. You can get side slotted jets in areas where you can't get enough angle out of those directional jets. So you can use a side slotted jet to go straight down the wall and get that pull turn in in a big circle that helps eliminate dead spots, so our chemistry stays consistent from point to point to point to point. And then filtration. Keep your filter clean. Don't go too long without backwashing. Open up that filter. You're having trouble. Maybe one of the first things you need to do is pull that filter apart, clean those cartridges. Get better flow, make sure you're turning the pool over enough, you know if and down here in the south, you ain't gonna get away with four hours a day, it ain't gonna happen. You get the more you move the water, the better chance you have of maintaining your pool well and saving that 25 $40 a month in electricity. Well, when you buy one bottle algaecide or whatever you want to use to try to maintain it or kill the algae, there goes that 40 bucks. So would you rather have a pretty pool with no problems and spend 40 bucks, you know, by by paying the electric company the extra 40, or would you rather have to buy extra products and fight problems for the same price. I'm kind of in easier for the same price is better for me, but there's a good chance you're gonna save money if you especially if you have a variable speed pump, utilizing those lower speeds, good circulation, good filtration, turning that pool well running longer hours, you're going to save money and you're going to have less problems. And people all of a sudden, you know, Boy, wouldn't it be cool if everybody woke up and everybody's listening to Rudy stankwitz And everybody's listening to Frank and you're doing what? What we say, and all of a sudden, nobody anywhere says, I'll never own another pool. All I do is dump all money in my pool. All right, let's get on top of that. Y'all, it's $100,000 investment sitting in your backyard. Do it? Take care of it. 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