#54- Skroove talks building a brand from college, wild Tom Green story, skateboarding to golf evolution

Episode #54 of Good Times Noodle Salad brings in Kenny from Skroove, a homegrown lifestyle apparel brand out of Royal Oak, Michigan that’s rooted in skateboarding, snowboarding, and now—somehow—golf.

Kenny breaks down what it was like starting Skroove while still in college at Saginaw Valley, figuring things out on the fly and building something real without a blueprint. Devin—who originally put us on to Skroove—pulls up to the studio as well and jumps into the conversation, adding to the chaos and backstory of how everything came together.

From there, the conversation spirals into the kind of random, unforgettable adventures that seem to follow Kenny and his brother everywhere—including somehow ending up hanging out with Tom Green.

We get into the different creative swings Skroove has taken over the years, from throwing live shows around Royal Oak and Ferndale to putting together “Skroove Sessions,” a series of music performances with local artists that helped blur the line between clothing brand and creative community. Skroove has also made a name for themselves through apparel collaborations with local ski hills across Michigan, tapping directly into the culture that inspired the brand in the first place.

Of course, it wouldn’t be a Skroove episode without talking boards—skateboarding roots, snowboarding culture, and the inevitable transition into golf as the body starts to fight back a little more each year.

It’s a laid-back but inspiring episode about building something from nothing, chasing ideas that don’t always make sense on paper, and staying creative no matter where life takes you.

🎧 Tap in and ride with us.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:36

I think we did like three hours and forty minutes or something, which is like I I could talk to Kate forever because we're both comics. So like there's just there's nothing that we anytime one of us says something, it's like, oh, and then it just never stopped.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

I think I said five words the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Which is ignored and which is a new record, by the way. Not true.

SPEAKER_06 0:56

High or low?

SPEAKER_02 0:58

High. She's always like, you don't let me talk. And I'm like, I'm not gonna ask you. Jump in. You just gotta get in there, dude. Fucking cheers, man. Thanks for coming.

SPEAKER_05 1:09

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Fucking Devin. We talked about it, but I'm gonna say it on the podcast. So I'm having Devin fucking jump in eventually because he's the one that put me onto your store, man. Thank you. You're fucking uh where you at? You're in Royal Oak, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:22

Yeah, yeah. We just opened in December uh 4314 Rochester Road in Royal Oak. So it's like 13 and a half mile. There's a Green Lantern Pizza, and we're in that same little plaza. And shout out Green Lantern Pizza. I mean, when we were building out the space, we lived off some Green Lantern pizza. But now that we're open, they like hook it up. We do an event every Thursday, they sponsor pizza and hell yeah. Oh, that's great. They even like walk it down for us. Oh shit. Yeah, we're like four doors down. So that's awesome. And I'm not gonna complain because I love pizza, it's my favorite food.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Hell yeah, dude. So you uh you grew up skateboarding and yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 1:57

Uh I played traditional sports growing up, you know, and like when I was younger, me and my cousin made skateboard, um, ride BMX bikes and just like loved being outside and doing that. And then just was always attracted to like starting a clothing brand. And since I was like in middle school, maybe then in college, my brother and I we started it, and I've been doing it ever since. We've been doing it 12 years. So I was just always attracted to like the snowboarding surf skate culture, loved it, like what it stood for. Um I was like, we would just wanted to start our own brand. We went to school for business. And instead of having like an internship, a traditional one, I was like, why don't we just start our own brand? That'll be our that'll be our internship, and you know, learn that way. So yeah, that's how that's how it started and got more into it, like really started skating again, like in my twenties, you know. So yeah, it's a blast. Oh yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Were how were you doing it before the store opened?

SPEAKER_05 2:53

Uh online and uh other retailers carried us. What's up? Kenny. What's up, buddy?

unknown 2:58

I'm Dreving.

SPEAKER_05 2:58

Nice, nice beanie. I see I told you somebody was rocking our beanie and I had to go find I got your yellow one too. Yeah from Holly. Oh, nice, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. Those are from like two seasons ago. I love that. It's a great beanie. Yep. But yeah, we were online and uh carried in other retail stores, so that's always been our business. And then we opened up our own brick and mortar in uh December. We signed the lease in July. I thought we'd be open by Labor Day, and we're open like five months later. So I was a little ambitious. I was a little ambitious, but learned a lot in the process.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

So yeah, dude, that's fucking scary. Five months like waiting for like, come on, man, we gotta get this one.

SPEAKER_05 3:38

Stuff with the city and just like permits and like stuff that's completely out of your control, you know, that you'll learn as you're doing that sort of thing. Like you can only move so fast. Oh my god, and then the ball's in other people's courts, sort of.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

So and Royal Oak, dude.

SPEAKER_05 3:52

I I'm sure there's a ton of red tape now that it's like the fucking mini mecca or whatever for uh yeah, it was it just yeah, it was an extended process, and you know it's not a huge they have a whole list of things and it's not as huge a priority for them as it is for you, right? Right, and they they have their own schedule and just move a little slower than who are we?

SPEAKER_02 4:12

Yeah, we're not prior prioritizing screw. We got another B dubs to put in.

SPEAKER_05 4:16

Yeah, you gotta wait on a list. So yeah, we had to set submit these architect plans and we submitted them, and we had to like re-submit them because we didn't label the architect didn't label where the checkout counter was gonna be. So then we had to go back to like the bottom of the queue and wait again. It's like these little just it was intense. Yeah, then we got our inspection, and then they did the inspection, they hardly like looked at anything. It was like pretty easy. Like I was like stressing, but it was way more simple than I thought. Oh, okay, just like switch the lock so you can like can't lock yourself in accidentally, and it was do it this way so it's like it can be a push door if there's an emergency, and then like that was it. So I called a locksmith like that day. He came out like two hours later, and I was like, Can you come back tomorrow and give us like our certificate of occupancy so we can be open? Because we were trying to get open like as soon as possible, and he did. Yeah, so yeah, like once we got it, like it really wasn't that bad. It was just like a couple things in the process that just took a while.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Yeah. We wanted to, so we're I don't wanna I'm not gonna go, I'm not gonna go off on a fucking fall on tangent about the office or our our studio. I probably am. But we were looking, we were we wanted to move down to Royal Oak because I I'm a comic and and then we have musicians on or whatever, like small business owners if you're you know, got a cool vibe, not I've had like insurance agents reach out to ask if they could be on. I'm like, fucking, what am I gonna talk to you about? How you're just stealing money? I fucking have no interest in that at all, you know. But like, uh anyway, to land my fucking plane, uh we were like, we should move closer to the city because it's gonna be easier to get people on, especially like guys doing Mark Ridley's or the Royal Art Music Theater or whatever, and you know, but we ended up getting another fucking studio up here, up in Bumfuck, Michigan.

SPEAKER_05 6:01

Where do you guys live?

SPEAKER_02 6:03

We're uh we're here. Oh nice, yeah. We're like two miles from here, and then the new studio, we're even closer to that.

SPEAKER_05 6:08

Oh, so you actually already found a new studio.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

Yeah, we signed it to I actually paid for the down payment today to get into the new studio. Oh, nice. Yeah, but yeah, there's just the shit hit the fan here. I was telling you outside, like, we're in like a passive aggressive war. With your neighbors with my neighbors, yeah. The fuck well, first of all, the fucking damn it. Here we go. Every episode is gonna have this until we're gonna go. Until we move. Yeah, fuck yeah, because it's bullshit.

SPEAKER_05 6:33

Do you think they listen or they active listeners?

SPEAKER_02 6:35

I fucking I'm gonna send it to them directly. I'm gonna drag the name of the fucking landlord here, Norm. He's a fucking dumbass. And the business owner out here, I don't know her name, but I'm just gonna call her cunt because it's easy to remember. But these fucking, so the the we're in an office building and we have a big hallway, you know, it's like the common area hallways, like fucking 20 feet wide and like 60 feet long, and they leased it out as a retail store. And like obviously, as a podcaster, I need quiet, so I'm like, all right, well, that sucks, but maybe we can work together when when I'm finding this out. But the way that she went about it was so aggressive and shitty. I'm like, oh fuck you, I'm never working with you. Like, we put out that sign, it's literally a picture of James Stewart with Stephen Colbert's finger on his lips, and it says, Shush, we're recording. You are not gonna put a sign out that tells my customers to be quiet. What? That's basic courtesy of like a neighbor, you know? Yeah, and and by the way, we're we're here like twice a week. You can't deal with that for two hours twice a week. So she sends me this fucking chat GPT generated letter I would love to diligently work together and foster relationships and blah blah blah. But essentially the meat and potatoes of the letter was you're gonna do what I want, and that's just how it is. And it was like fuck you.

SPEAKER_05 8:04

How long have you guys been here?

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Dude, like four.

SPEAKER_05 8:07

Oh five.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Yeah. So like I mean, like, we had just we just got this one done. This suite wasn't available when we first moved here. So we were in one of the smaller rooms across the hall, and it was it wasn't big enough. And then when we found out that we could take this for not that much more money, we're like, fuck yeah, let's jump on it. That's awesome. We'll be able to like do because the goal was to have a section of the studio to do music because we had musicians on. It's like, all right, let's have a jam session, you know. Have guitar players come on and then I jam with them. We record a little like kind of like a live at Daryl's kind of thing, and uh it's not gonna happen now because of this whole situation, man. It just got shitty and weird, and like can you do that in your new space? Do you think it'll be tight, yeah, it'll be tight.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Smaller, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_05 8:54

Yeah, still in like Waterford, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

Yeah, yeah. But it's right next to my favorite bar, so I'm not mad about that. What bar is that? Shark Club. Oh, okay, yeah. Shark Club's my place, man. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:06

But I've been there like once. Yeah. I think once or twice, coming back from Alpine Valley. Oh, right on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

The vibe there is a little weird now. Because like no one that we went to school with works there anymore.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

Like so you can get free drinks, you're saying?

SPEAKER_02 9:19

No, I never I never got free drinks. All I did was like pay for my friend's car notes by drinking too much, you know. I think a couple of them still do. Yeah, Taylor works there still. I think Paige does. Paige does. But like, I don't know. I guess the only one Ashley and uh Ashley and Taylor are gone, which like those were my two like. It's more the younger generation than yeah, it's weird because like now I go in there, it's like 20 year olds, and I'm 32. So I'm like, fucking kid. Get away from me. You have no you have nothing. Now you're the grumpy old man. I do it. I'm like, you have nothing I want to hear you say. You know, like you have there's no stories you're gonna tell me that I want to hear. I want fucking, I want a weathered. I'm a pipe fitter.

SPEAKER_06 10:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

So we go to these janky fucking shithole bars that are.

SPEAKER_05 10:07

I love my girlfriend and we love dive bars.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah, so like I go to like Mr. K's and e-course like by the steel mill, and it's just like you walk in there and just the owner's mad that you showed up. Yeah, you know, Amanda's just like, I'm like, what's up, dude? She's like, fucking, what do you want? That's the kind of bar I want to go to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

We were at Yield Saloon last night.

SPEAKER_05 10:26

That's where that's where my girlfriend and I met. I used to live like two blocks from Yield.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

You guys met at Yield Saloon?

SPEAKER_05 10:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Yield Saloon.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

We were there last night and we were like, Where's the bathroom? And my friend's like, well, it might be outside right now.

SPEAKER_05 10:38

I thought she was fucking with me because I asked.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

So we're not not really sure.

SPEAKER_05 10:41

Dude, like I started, like, I've lived in Royal Oak for like, I don't know, eight years now, whatever. And I live with like my best friend and my brother. We lived at like Lincoln and Campbell. We didn't really go to Yield that much because it was just like far enough away from downtown to go to the other bars, you know, whatever. But then I moved like in those brick condos right by uh 696, like Allenhurst, right by like the LA Fitness. Then our office used to be above Tom's Oyster Bar. So I would like pass Yield Saloon like every day. I'm like, this is gonna be my new like watering hole, you know. And then it was our spot, and I like told my buddies, like, dude, you guys gotta come here. It's like the greatest dive bars, like pool table, one, and then PBR and draft. Like, that's all I need. That's what I consider a great. And it's like two 250 beers, you know. Yeah, so like we made like really good friends with them. Uh, and then I met my girlfriend there, and then we threw two summers ago, we threw the uh the screw summer bash, we called it, where we like took over the parking lot and like modern brought in like their taco mini ramp. Oh, hell yeah. And we had a uh like skate demo there, cornhole, a bunch of stuff outside. They brought a bar outside, then our buddy's band uh played in the parking lot. Shout out uh Pew Pew Pew. I don't know if you guys know them, but no, but I'm gonna write that down.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

I've heard of them.

SPEAKER_05 11:50

They're a Toronto uh punk rock band. Yeah, that's that's they have a song called Mid-20s Skate War, you should check it out. So they're very cool, and they remastered the Tony Hawk pro skater games and like came back out with them for Xbox and PlayStation. Yeah, their song was featured in uh the remastered version. No shit.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

Yeah, oh man, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

So it's like P-K-E-W. Like pew pew pew is how you spell.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

Yeah, band name. But yeah, they performed there, we threw a cool party, so Eold is the spot. Well, we went there in St. Patrick. We don't I don't go there as much. I live like a mile away now instead of like you know, 200 yards, but I went like 11 mile, but so we just don't go there as often. But we went there for St. Patrick's Day, and they have that like new little patio that they're building out there, and they're redoing the bathrooms and all that. And I like looked at him, I'm like, it's kind of almost getting too nice now. Like, you know, like I told my buddies when we first went there, I goes, you guys, like this is the spot, you gotta come here. I goes, like, the only thing it's like missing is like one of the urinals because there's like two urinals, and one of them's just broken off the wall, dude. And it was just like perfect, it fits the vibe.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Oh man, that's that's the kind of bathroom I want. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I I you know what's funny is that when we went there, you know, obviously we have the podcast, we have like stickers on us, and we'll like fucking sticker slap wherever we go. And she's like, Oh, the bathrooms are brand new, they're prime for us. And I'm like, and like so. I went in the bathroom and I'm like, it's like nice blue tile, and I'm like, I'm not fucking this up. Like someone else has to someone has to carve like a swastika into the tile before I'm gonna put a sticker.

SPEAKER_05 13:19

There's gotta be other, there has to be other graffiti in the bathroom before you sticker slap. Right. So, do you guys you ever been to Jay's penalty box in Ferndale?

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:30

Yeah, so we my brother and I, we first moved, we went to college at Sagano Valley, we moved down to the S V S U. Um, that's where we started with ScrewVat. So we went to school up there, my brother and I, Tyler, uh, and we're business partners. We moved down to Ferndale to like grow our business after college. And we lived at like nine in Pinecrest. So like we were walking distance from all the bars downtown Ferndale, and Jay's was like our spot because we just like dive bars of cheap beer, you know, a good sports bar. And uh like I always carry like a Sharpie in my pocket, and we went to Jay's, and there was like graffiti on the bathroom, so somebody might have wrote screw like on like the wall, you know. And I get like a Facebook message from this Janice lady, she's like, Hey, how do I buy a t-shirt? And I'm like, Oh, you know, you just go on our website right here, and she's the owner of the bar at B and she goes, Oh, you get I think one of you guys graffiti in my bathroom. I'm like, Oh, like sorry, I saw some other graffiti. I was like, I'll come clean it up, you know. And she was like all mad at us or whatever. So I went there with like rubbing alcohol and whatever, and I like cleaned up my graffiti, and there was other graffiti, that's why like I did it because I was like, This is kind of like a shitty dive bar, you know. Like people do this at these type of bars. So I was like, all right, whatever. Like, I'll go clean up. So I cleaned it up. And then yeah, I just wrote like screw up on the wall, and then she ended up loving us. Like after that, like she loved us, and then we did like a collab, like screw Jay's penalty box, like hoodies and t-shirts that like the staff all wore. So I was like, I learned, I was like, there was like graffiti, whatever, but I cleaned it up, you know, won her over, and then we did like a clad and had like a great relationship for like the like year that we lived there with them. That's funny that like I was like, Yeah, I'll do that here.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

Wait, so she she duped you at first. She was like, How do I buy a t-shirt? Yeah, like oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:09

Yeah, just don't fucking just like go to Scrooge. That was like kind of a weird question because like you could just Google our website, you know. Like, okay, whatever. It's like that was I think you guys graffitied our bathroom. I did, sorry, but I'll come clean it up. So I cleaned up my graffiti and the other graffiti. But then, yeah, just we became buddies after that. So it's funny, funny how it worked out.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

That's hilarious. You were living me and his fucking like 16-year-old dream, by the way. Which is having a skateboarding company or having a clothing company. Yeah, we had like three different business ideas where we're like, oh, we're gonna fucking take over the industry, dude.

SPEAKER_10 15:44

You know, and like money shots was the best. Money shots.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Yeah, we had a clothing brand. Yeah, money shots.

SPEAKER_10 15:51

The video is right between the eyes. We have a demo on um YouTube, so don't we? Yeah, it's garbage. It's fucking garbage. It is, but it's like you can find it if you Google it, search it, oh, it's out there.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Yeah, fucking money shots clothing. Yeah, how long did it last? Did you actually have shirts made? Uh no. Oh I bought I bought, so for my my dad would always for for Christmas, he would always be like, just tell me what you want. And uh for that, like that year when we started, so parafron was the one that we actually tried on, like parafront, and it's still my fucking email to this day. It drives me nuts because I have to like I'm like, it's a stupid made up fucking word. I've been having to explain it to people for 15 years. But uh, but anyway, so like my dad would always just be like, Hey, what like what do you want for Christmas instead of just surprising you with shit like you should? Yeah, like Santa should. So I was like, I just want blanks, like Santa should. Yeah, so I'm like, I want blanks, you know? Yeah. So he's like, all right, uh, like what sizes? You know, to just tell just send me the links. I just said I'm like a fucking I found like a blank company online and was like 775-8258 and fucking just give me like an even amount of each. Do you remember this? I used to go through boards like every week because I was just like, fuck it, I got a thousand of them.

SPEAKER_10 17:05

Just had a history on Facebook come up, and you were randomly asking me a 7.8 or an 8.0. That's all you asked me on Facebook.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

That sounds right. Yeah, 7. Well, I don't I would have never skated a 7.8, I would have skated a 7.75. It was 7 something. I don't know. 775, it would have been.

SPEAKER_10 17:21

But I think we were jumping up from a 7.5 to an eight.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

We were all scared to go to the eights, and now these kids skate like fucking nines. Fucking, yeah. They're like surfboards, and we were both like, dude, I don't know if I'll be able to kick flip if I go from a seven seven five to an eight. Which we might actually have been better. It's literally a quarter inch difference. It's like, dude, it's gonna be completely different. My the board I have now is an eight two five, and I'm like, it feels like I'm kickflipping a fucking like a sheet of plywood.

SPEAKER_05 17:50

Yeah, that's what I ride and a lot of my buddies ride, and I don't think you really don't see anybody riding smaller like an eight like anymore.

SPEAKER_02 17:55

I know, and he skates he's you were skating fucking seven fives and seven seven fives.

SPEAKER_10 18:02

No, I think I just no, I think I still do. I think that uh GGK board I have. Really? But I think I need to get a plan B that's an eight. Why plan some slappy trucks? Because I miss playing.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Sheckler's not even on there anymore. I don't care.

SPEAKER_10 18:15

I like the plan B boards. It's better than chocolate. I was never about the plan. I do like it. Chocolate snaps. All the other ones snapped. Plan B seemed to last the longest. No matter what, it was really long. Just because I had Sheckler on it, doesn't matter. You're so full of shit. You wrote that dick about it. I'm not out buying zero board right now, am I? No.

SPEAKER_02 18:34

He asked me if he sent me a screenshot of a board he was about to buy. I did not. No. It was a fucking zero board with a cross on it that had.

SPEAKER_10 18:44

Oh, are they? Yeah, oh yeah. I didn't know Shackler was on.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

I thought he had his own board company.

SPEAKER_10 18:48

No, he close he he shut it down. He shut down San Lot times and then he joined up with um Zero.

SPEAKER_05 18:55

Oh, really? Well, you wait about 60 days. We'll have some screw decks that we're working on that are made in Michigan with Michigan Maple.

SPEAKER_10 19:01

Well, then I'm gonna come and get a screw deck. Yeah. Come by the shop.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

I'm fact-checking you because last time you talked about skateboarding, I got yelled at by Tom Asta. It was true.

SPEAKER_10 19:12

It was literally on Mikey Taylor's podcast that I was telling the story from. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

You got so much of it wrong. I got fucking drug in the cabinet.

SPEAKER_10 19:21

They were drunk at Woodward Camp, and you can't tell me anything else. Because they were skater, yeah, they were. They were and Chris Cole was never there. Chris Cole was, because Mikey Taylor literally said that. Go watch the podcast. Dude, I go watch podcasts. Mikey Taylor. I had to put out an apology. Go watch Mikey Taylor's podcast on the Mike Mo uh accident.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

All right, let's uh all right, we're done. 19 minutes. We're done. We're gonna go watch another podcast. Thank you for tuning in, guys.

SPEAKER_06 19:52

Until next time.

SPEAKER_05 19:55

Dude. How many episodes of this podcast have you guys done?

SPEAKER_02 19:58

Uh we're on like 55 or something. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_05 20:02

Did you start it just since you've been in the studio or was it a thing before you guys were here?

SPEAKER_02 20:06

So we me and my brother started it uh last January, I think. And it was just like I combined my I have three kids, I combined my boys into one bedroom and took over my little my little guy's bedroom and just like hung a bunch of random bullshit in his bedroom and made it look cool. And me and my brother were doing it over a card table. Nice.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

It was he came home and he was like, Oh, I was just on the phone with Chris, and uh we're gonna start a podcast, so I'm gonna go rearrange the rooms. Like, and then one night the house was different.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Oh, I went full psycho mode. Yeah, and she I I have this gear where I like completely unlock like how psychotic I can be. And then it was like me and Chris talked about it, and then we like confirmed, and then I talked to the boys, I go, Hey, are you guys okay with sharing a room? And they both got excited about it. I was like, All right, stay the fuck out of the way. And then it'd be too loud when dad's recording. Oh, dude, I used to have to send everybody, like you guys have to leave for two hours. Like she would like, I'd be like, Hey, I'm recording. She's like, Oh, so I can't be home, I can't watch TV, I can't do uh you know, I can't even have the air conditioning on.

SPEAKER_05 21:13

You got your Jon Stewart thing out the hallway of your house.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

Right, and she's like, This is my hallway. But uh yeah, and so we did me and my brother did uh, I don't know, maybe 25 or something, no, probably less than that, but 20-ish episodes or something together. And like we always wanted to start a podcast just because we I thought we felt like we had interesting conversations and we like to fucking there's always like a little friction and like conflict in our conversations because we disagree on a lot of shit, but it's in like a healthy way, like a you know, like I'm trying to grow way for the most part. But uh, but he's the kind of guy that's not he has a hard time being vulnerable, and like so he'll be vulnerable with me because I'm his brother, you know. So like we'll have these conversations where we're exploring ideas and he might change the way he thinks. About something like we had an episode where the entire episode was me arguing unionism with him. Like I'm pro-union, I'm a union pipe fitter, and he's he was against unions because he's a non-union machinist. So he was like, I don't fucking see the point. You know, you're just basically giving the power to somebody else. Anyway, we had these interesting conversations, but he uh he would be vulnerable with me, but then he would realize that it was public and after the after the fact.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

Like everything.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

And so he would call me and he'd be like, dude, I don't like I felt like you were talking to me like I was stupid, or or I said this, and I what I meant to say was this, and I didn't articulate it right. And I think he just got in his head about it, and he was like, I just can't do this, I can't do this anymore. And the way he went about quitting the show was shitty, if I'm being honest with you, but but because he like he's got a following because he does music, and uh he just like put out a statement, he never talked to me about it. Like two months before that, he was like, Hey, I feel like you're pushing me out. And I'm like, I'm not pushing you out. This is what we're building together, I would never push you out. And then the dust settled, and then he puts out a statement out of nowhere and was like, I'm stepping down from good times noodle sale. And I was like, What the fuck, dude? And like, do you remember what it said? Because I remember feeling like it made me sound like a criminal. I don't remember exactly what it said, but yeah, it made it sound like you were like this awful person and you were really mean to him over like it was yeah, it was like it made me sound like it was like he was stepping down because I was problematic, and I was like, What? I don't know how he worded it. I think if I looked for it hard enough, I'd be like, but whatever.

SPEAKER_05 23:37

Well, I almost didn't come out here because of that statement.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

I know, but I was like, what the fuck? You know, like you're gonna put out like a public statement before you even have a conversation with me, and I've like put all this money and time and effort into the podcast. I was I was bitter. I didn't talk to him for a while.

SPEAKER_00 23:53

It was super random too, because like we had just all gone out like two nights before now.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Two days before we were like drunk at the bar, like scream laughing, just shitting on each other. And and then it was just like, what the fuck happened, you know? And so, like, you know, after we kissed and made up after a couple of months, you know, I was like, So what the fuck happened? And then, you know, we kind of figured out, like, all right, you're not the personality type that can be vulnerable in the public, and that's fine, you know. And then we bought a house and fucking got busy as shit for like six months, and it was like, alright, it's time. We're good now. Like the dust has settled on our life, the chaos, let's start it back up. So we got a studio and we've been back at it for like three months. And in the three months, we went from like getting friends and family views, like 40 views, 50 views maybe on everything, to like now we're hitting like two million views every fucking couple of months. Like every you know, the metrics are all like 90 days.

SPEAKER_05 24:52

Like on uh Spotify. No, fuck no, dude. I'd be rich if that was what was happening.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

No, like on on the like on the videos. Oh nice. Across all platforms we're getting like two million views uh every 90 days, which is great.

SPEAKER_05 25:06

Instagram, YouTube, and like TikTok, is that where you post it all? Yep. So just like the clips you're saying?

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Yeah, well, combined the clips and the the long form shit doesn't get views like that, which that just lives on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

Yeah, does it?

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Yeah. Like those are literally like a hundred views. Yeah. But it's like who it's hard to it's hard to it's hard to uh what's the fucking word? Um I'm it's hard to convert the shorts uh viewers to the long form viewers.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Which everybody's I just want I feel like just wants to see shorts. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Well everything I've read about like trying to convert is like ever like it's expected that whatever your shorts do, you're gonna do a hundred thousand times what you're gonna do on your long form videos until people seek out the audio for the show, you know.

SPEAKER_05 25:56

And do you upload just the audio to Spotify and iTunes? Okay. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We're on everything.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Yeah, yeah. So we we use a distributor, so we're yeah, we're on everything. Anywhere you get your podcasts, you can download the show. But then you'll you can also uh watch the full episodes on YouTube and then whatever we decide to clip out, which is the most toxic thing that happens during the most click baby thing possible. Pretty much. So let's talk about ice so we can get some views.

SPEAKER_07 26:31

But yeah. No ice.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

Well, that's why, like I told you, my brother and I, we had a podcast for like 45 episodes, and we did it just for the fun of it, you know. And this was probably it was before COVID, eight years ago, nine years ago, you know, and it was more for the fun of it, and it was like to just open people's eyes. It was called What Your Screw, and we interviewed artists, athletes, creators, and musicians, kind of like you, you know, other creative people that were pursuing their passion. Um but it was a cool way just to connect with people and hear other people's story and whatnot, but it was like it wasn't really like we never monetized it or anything like that, you know. And at some point I was just like, all right, this is just we're spending hours editing this thing, you know, and it's like not really getting a lot of views and all that, so and then we just ended up stopping it.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

But uh it's a ton of work.

SPEAKER_05 27:22

It is, yeah. But now like there's like a lot of software, AI software where you can just like it'll edit it for you, pick out like the five most interesting like points in the conversation, and it gives you your five clips and all that. So it's gotten a lot more efficient, but yeah, I'd have to sync up the audio, watch all two and a half hours, and like click in between each person talking. So I was like, we're gonna put the video, it's gonna be good. You know, right? And it was just it was a lot, and at the time we did like a video uh called 60 seconds of screw for like a thousand and one day straight. It's like when Instagram first got video, we made like a video every day of our life. So like we were producing like a shit ton of content, and my brother started like a vlog and then went down here and it was just like all right, we gotta like kind of pick and choose where we're spending our time because there's like so much stuff getting edited and like some stuff's getting used, some stuff's not. So it's like we're you know, how are we spending our our time and energy here?

SPEAKER_02 28:14

So I'm like if I I feel like like every guy once he starts making money, he starts to spend his money on other shit that he likes doing, you know what I mean? So it's like alright, like all my buddies you know became journeymen, now they're buying cars or they're fucking buying bikes, or they're you know, now we golf because we're too fucking old and fat to skateboard. And but like I'm scared that I wasn't gonna be able to get away.

SPEAKER_05 28:42

We're working at our golf the screw golf club right now. We're working at our golf line. So we're dropping a uh golf line. So you guys have to check out the uh the golf line.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. But uh yeah, it I tell you what, there's a there is going we talked about this. There is a massive market that's being missed in golf because everything that has the word golf on it for some fucking reason is$75 or more. And if you can get into a I that's the market I think like if we ever talk to like if we ever get serious about doing clothes, the name brand I have is a good idea. Yeah, but getting into if you can get into the market where it's like, hey, this is for the regular guy, not the fucking, you know, not the white-collar douchebags, like for the country club, yeah. Like the blue not necessarily blue collar because it's a fucking whatever.

SPEAKER_05 29:37

It's like the country club adjacent, like and there are a lot of golf brands, and like worlds are like merging. There's since COVID, like a lot of people got into like snowboarding, more people got into skateboarding, and a lot of people got into golf, you know, just happened to be outside and just people had money and all that. But uh you see it just in the fashion that like the streetwear, like Melbourne. I don't know if you're familiar with like Melbourne, it's a high fashion, high fashion, it's a very forward-fashioned golf brand.

SPEAKER_10 30:04

Yeah, no, I know Melbourne.

SPEAKER_05 30:05

Yeah, and they did a collab with like girl skateboards, and like Sean Mothell was like did a you know, they did a collab deck and some like streetwear golf wear sort of stuff. So like those worlds are like merging. How weird is that, yeah, but it's like that's where it's at now, you know? Yeah, and I think they did one with like Santa Cruz last year too. So it's like and that's what we kind of realized is we golf, like we've gotten into golf in like the last five years, and it's fun. We do it with our buddies who are like great golfers, like scratch golfers. And uh it's just something fun to do during the summer. You get to be outside with your buddies, you know, you get to go drink and you know, do something kind of competitive and just drive around in a golf cart. It's like we do we snowboard during the wintertime, but like eight months out of the year, it's either skateboarding or like we're golfing. So, like, let's design clothes for that type of person, you know. So that's where uh we haven't even really dropped it yet, but that's where we're going with our golf line. It's for snowboarders who golf is like the the genre and the style of clothes that we're coming out with. It's fucking displayed.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

That'll be so much better than the golf clothes, like the regular.

SPEAKER_05 31:08

Yeah, and that's and there's definitely like people like those worlds are just merging, yeah, you know. So we're trying to design some some clothes that fits that style of person. Yeah, that's obviously we go and do it, and like we're not super like snooty. We go out, I have my PBR, you know, I have a PBR golf bag. I should you not like my I love PBR. My brothers, like they've looked for years, and like two years ago for my birthday, my brother got me like this PBR promo golf bag that was like still in the wrapper that he found from a friend that was wanted at some golf giveaway. It's like real leather, dude. And that's my that's my golf bag, dude.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

I want a fucking uh John Daly. Have you seen John Daly's bag? Hooters. He's got a Hooters bag. I'm like, it's a leather, it's a white leather Hooters bag.

SPEAKER_10 31:55

I think he needs a new one now, though.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

I'm like, I want it. Why?

SPEAKER_10 31:57

Because I think Hooters is gone now. Oh, you can keep it.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

You don't have to get rid of it.

SPEAKER_05 32:02

I just saw, I think it was today. It goes, if you would have told me that Tiger Woods has two DUIs and John Daly has zero, I would have lost a lot. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_10 32:11

There's a photo of Tiger Woods and John Daly, and he's like, I got zero DUIs. How many you got? You just sit there smoking a cigarette.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

That's hilarious. Yeah, what how fucking wild is that? Dude, I uh I put out a I put out a fake fucking TMZ like headline that I got arrested for fucking a DUI. But I literally used Tiger Woods apology in my post as a joke. I was like, I'm just learning. Whatever. I didn't pick up on that. And then she texts, well, that was a deep cut. I literally said, I'll be back on the course soon. Yeah, I didn't understand why you were sending that, but it could have been better if that makes sense now. But then she texts me and she goes, Hey, why did you post that? I'm like, it's April Fool's. And she's like, Vicki's mad at you because she thought it was real.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

I said, Vicki's mad at you because of your post. And you're like, Why? And I said, Because she thought it was real. And I was like, I didn't even realize it was April Fool's Day until she was like, Is this an April Fool's joke or what? But gotta get the soundboard here.

SPEAKER_05 33:12

Come on.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

You guys are just lagging and he's in airborne. My mom didn't text me and like, what happened last night? She was like, I was on the phone with her on the way home. I was like, I can't believe you didn't text me about that. And she's like, Well, I knew I'd talk to you later, so I figured I would figure out what was going on.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

I almost used my real mugshot though. That would have been.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

That should be like one of your guys' t-shirt designs if you were bringing back one of your clothing brands. Yeah. Yeah, the mug shot.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I look like Mega Mind in it. Terrible photo. I'm like, hey, I know you guys aren't trying to make me look good, but my fucking head looks like it's this big, dude. It's fucking bullshit. I look like I'm really taking that, like your driver's like photo. Yeah, I'm trying to look cute. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

You have one too? And yours is bad? Is that what you just said?

SPEAKER_10 34:02

Probably. I never got the photo of it, but Jimmy pulled that up. It's not a DUI, but it was when I got booked.

SPEAKER_11 34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:10

Dude, we uh inside baseball, uh Dylan, you know, Dylan Larkin, the captain of the Red Wings. Who? The captain of the Red Wings?

SPEAKER_03 34:19

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

His mom was both of our probation officers. Yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_10 34:27

Oh yeah. She's really nice. She was a very nice lady. I understand. But Dylan was a little wild boy in college, it seemed like.

SPEAKER_05 34:36

Yeah. She uh get some free tickets.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

No, no, no. No, but we went, I had to ask her permission to go on vacation one time. I was like, hey, I'm going on vacation. Like, can I, can I? And she's like, oh, you know, she gets back to me a few days later. She's like, yes, your vacation's been approved. And then we we go to the casino where we went on vacation, and there she is on TV. At the Wings Game. At the Wings game, she's like in the box with like the other fucking like owners or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 35:03

You know, should I call it right now or should I call it TV?

SPEAKER_02 35:08

I was like, I had to ask her fucking permission, and there she is on TV. I'm like, this is so weird. What a weird fucking life I live. She's really nice. She uh when I when I first met her, like you know, like doing the onboarding of doing probation, you have to like do this interview with her, and so she gets to know you, and then she can like write a report of what she recommends that you have to do during your probation. And so she goes, What is the source of anger for you? And I go, The wings fucking suck, dude. She's like, not the time.

SPEAKER_06 35:40

Did you know it was not the time? His mom.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. I didn't know it was just about sports at all. So I don't think the dad was involved. She looks exactly like Dylan. Or vice versa. He looks exactly like his mom. But yeah, I was like, the wings fucking suck. And she's like, not the time. I was like, I'm sorry. That's good. All right. I don't have anger. Just let me pee in a cup for the shortest amount of time possible so I get back to not having to pee in the cup.

SPEAKER_10 36:12

So fucking. But didn't you go through jams? Did I? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 36:16

No. I think Ferrell had. No, I didn't. Work for whatever started? No. Nope.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

He had so many different places he was peeing in cups.

SPEAKER_08 36:28

Why?

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Well, I was well, okay, the first one. It's gonna go wherever it goes. I'm fucking open. I don't care. Um yeah, I'll tell the I'll tell the book. Why'd you have to go pee everywhere? So the first okay, the first place I picked, because you can pick where you do it, but you they have to know where you're going. So the first place I picked was halfway in between my house and her house, because that's when we first started dating. I was like, you know, I'm like, I fucking I'm gonna be somewhere in between these. I didn't know that at the time. But I lived in Lake Orion at the time. No, it was like it was it was in Troy because I was in Roseville and she was in Lake Orion, so I picked Troy because it's like halfway. And but there they had mirrors like glued all around the toilet and on the wall, and then just a gigantic man who would like breathe on my neck a little bit while I'm trying to pee, and I was just like, I can't fucking do this. And then they were like so serious, it was like cringy. I'm like, fucking, you're you're collecting piss for a living. And I like I walked in and they saw the imprint of my cell phone in my pocket, and they're going, Is that your phone? I'm you're gonna we're gonna violate you. You can't have your phone in here. And I'm like, What the fuck, dude? Is it really that serious? Jesus Christ. And they give me, so like I I woke one time I woke up in the morning, I had to piss so bad I had to pee before I went. And then so I get there and I'm like, I don't have to pee. Like it's I'm gonna have to wait. And they're like, You're gonna get violated. You have a you have like this much time. I'm like, Well, what do you want me to do? I can't just like you know, so I'm like, I need it, I need to get it.

SPEAKER_05 38:03

I always get a pee when I drink a bunch of beer.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

And they go, uh, so I go, Can I go out to my car and drink my Gatorade? They're like, You can't go back. I'm like, Can I get some water? They're like, we don't provide drinks. I'm like, what the fuck do you want me to do here? And I'm like sink, and they're like, and I can't and I don't have my phone on me, so I have to just sit there. And they gave me this like paperwork to read. So like as I was reading through it, and I got to, I was like, this is like reading the back of a shampoo bottle. It's so fucking boring, right? But like I then I got to a point where I'm like, oh, in between the lines, there's something hilarious here. I'm like, if you're caught using a device, you get violated, and they call you probation officer right then and there. I'm like, what do you mean using a device? And the guy, the guy that was doing the show goes, Man, this stupid white boy came in with the biggest black dick I've ever seen and thought he could fake pee out of that and he'd get away with it. And I was like, yes! You're a human! I didn't know you were a human. You've been treating it like fucking like jail, and you're just a fucking guy with zero credentials who's wearing scrubs. Why are you wearing scrubs? And you collect piss for a living. Finally, you revealed you're a person. Thank you, man. I you know, but anyway, I found a place that doesn't on camera. They use cameras instead of people in the bathroom with you, and I was like, that's better. Is it though? Yeah, because then I can rip a fart to start the pee, dude. Is this the one Osashava? Oh, you went there too, huh?

SPEAKER_10 39:25

You know what's funny is that one of the ladies is one of my friends' mom.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Uh is she the hot one?

SPEAKER_10 39:30

No. I'm just kidding. There's not one hot one there.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Oh, I'm joking. We almost leased the place next door, the tea that it used to be a t-shirt place. We were gonna we thought about renting that, but it was uh Yeah, I don't know if I can pull on that broken.

SPEAKER_10 39:42

A little too expensive. Make me have to pee.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Although they did in that one. So that one they use like a little security camera. And you know it's just shine. You need to fart to start a pee sometimes, you know. And if you got some fucking gigantic man standing directly behind you, you can't just shoot hot air straight up your back into the guy's fucking face. Uncomfortable, you know. So I'm like trying not to fart, which is stopping me from peeing. I'm like, this you got a five-minute timer, dog, you gotta get this done. I'm like, I'm gonna fart in your face if I if I anyway. At that was 17 fucking years ago. Let it go.

SPEAKER_10 40:24

God damn it. Yeah, but why do you still have that bad of a gas?

SPEAKER_05 40:28

Maybe some vegetables or something.

SPEAKER_10 40:30

Dude, I need to eat more healthy.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

I eat healthy now. No, okay, this is you're what you're saying is fucking stupid. Do you remember what we were doing that led up to me farting myself off of a chair?

SPEAKER_07 40:43

Chili cook off.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

We were high as fuck. We went to we went to Cooley Elementary as like 16-year-olds. We smoked a joint, and then we went back to your house, which is near there, and your parents you had nothing in the house except random bullshit. So, like, I think we made pancakes and made like microwave nachos, and then you were like, you were doing you were like, Oh, marshmallows, if you put them in peanut butter, they taste like chocolate. And I was like, This is the highest shit you've ever said.

SPEAKER_10 41:14

You jumped down from the bunk bed to get Marlowe, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 41:16

It was good, but uh dude, my stomach just like after eating all this random bullshit, my stomach's just like processed and just I fucking I farted myself right off the chair. I fucking I had no control.

SPEAKER_10 41:30

He literally come off.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

I jumped up because I was clenching because I was scared I was gonna shit my pants because my how tore up my stomach was from eating all that garbage. And our buddy Levi couldn't handle it. He ran downstairs to get away from us because he was laughing so hard. And we go and we look down the stairs, and Levi's like in tornado position, just like trying to recover from the from the moment. Dude, it was so funny. But that happened so fucking like that happened fucking 15 years ago, dude. Let it go. We gotta make news stories.

SPEAKER_05 42:01

So you're wait, you so you're a comedian, yeah, right? Do you perform at Mark Ridley's?

SPEAKER_02 42:05

I did last night. Oh, really? Yeah, oh nice, yeah, yeah. Just put the video up on YouTube.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

Is that like open mic, or how does that work?

SPEAKER_02 42:12

That one was a showcase. So that one was actually like I did uh uh with uh a 101 class, which is like a how to do stand-up, how to get comfortable on stage, how to write with Bill Bush art. Um super cool, dude. Uh the that the class, I gotta shout out the class, like the the guys in my class are fucking murderers. Like you we all did this show, and I'm like, this is beginners, and everyone looks like fucking professionals. Like, this is bullshit. I went up there, I stumbled, I was like, this sucks. I like I fucked up, no one else did it. Yeah, there was a pretty big audience there. It's pretty good. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, fucking uh pretty good dude. Uh they all sucked. No, everyone else didn't know. Everyone did great, dude. For the but to answer your question though, for the most part, it would be open mics, so that you open mic feels like you just show up and you like sign a list and you like just go up when it's your turn. Most of the mics that are around Metro Detroit are actually showcases. So you like submit to to hopefully do a show, and then you'll get you it's kind of like a lottery and you get put on. And there's uh there's some influence in there, like, oh, you've been this guy's been doing it 10 years, we're gonna put him up. This guy's been doing it a month, yeah. Maybe another time, you know what I mean? But for the most part, it's showcases around Metro Detroit.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

And then they'll have like three show up spots or something.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Yeah, so the show up spots are like what an open mic is. Yeah, and then so like you'll have like 10 people show up for the three spots, and then they do like a lottery, and then whoever gets polled gets them interested.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

So Mark Ridley's open mic is Wednesday. So I think.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Yeah, you have to call a week ahead and then you and then it's a lottery poll. So if you if you get it, it's a you know. But they have like a shitload of people submit every week, so it's just like I guess we'll see.

SPEAKER_05 43:59

Yeah. I haven't been to many comedy shows, but I got we're kind of two for two on some good stories at comedy shows. Yeah. If you guys would like to hear. I'll tell you. So I'll start with with the one at Mark Ridley's. I think I've only maybe been there twice. But the last time I was there, I was like scrolling Instagram and I saw that Tom Green was coming to Mark Ridley's. Was this like last year? Two years ago, whatever. He was coming to Mark Ridley's, and I'm like, dude, we gotta go see Tom Green. So I told my brother was like, we gotta get some tickets to Tom Green. He had a show like Friday, Saturday night. So we bought like tickets. Like, me and my brother and our girlfriends, we went, text my one buddy Jordan. Shout out Jordan, the skateboard lawyer. Uh and he wait, he was already going with his brother. No, I didn't text him. He we just randomly saw him there. So like me and my brother are sitting, we got like a table front row, and my brother like likes wear a cowboy hat sometimes. He's got this big cowboy hat on, and we're like listening to Tom Green, and like we were like dying laughing. And like Tom Green's like pointing out his cowboy hat, whatever. We're like, all right, this like we're just in tears, we're dying laughing. It's great. And he's like, I'm filming for this Amazon special, right? So he's got his camera guy in the back, and he goes, you know, after the show, we're doing a little meet and greet. If anybody wants a photo, blah blah blah. Tyler goes, dude, I gotta I'm gonna go like ham up with like his uh video guy and like kind of befriend him and like see, you know, whatever. Because we were gonna try to get him to like come out to like Y old saloon afterwards and like you know become friends with Tom Green, right? So Tyler like show gets over, he starts talking to the video guy and cool guy, and whatever. We get up to Tom Green and get a photo, we talk to him a little bit, and the video guy kind of lets us like skip the line. He's like, Oh, this is Tyler and his you know buddy brother, blah blah blah. So we're hanging out, we see Jordan there, and Jordan can like skate very well. And uh we talk to Tom, get a photo, whatever, and then he had a show Saturday. Well, he told me, Hey dude, you want to go out tonight? You know, he's like, We go, we got a great bar, and he goes, I got a show tomorrow, like I'm going to bed early, blah blah blah. Like, okay. So our office was above uh Tom's Oyster Bar, like right downtown Royal O. And uh we're like, let's Jordan, let's go film you doing the flippy thing, like Tom Green's trick, and like tag him on Instagram and just like try and get his attention, you know, whatever for the fun of it, you know. So we were gonna go skate in that little plaza like behind the Henry Ford Health Center, you know? And uh so like Jordan's skating there, I'm like, all right, I'm leaving. And like I usually skate down the little third street where Rockin' Third is, whatever reason I take like Main Street, and I'm skateboarding down Main Street, and Tom Green is filming for his YouTube channel right on the sidewalk. And he goes, Hey dude, and this is all on his YouTube, like you guys can, it's like a 30-minute YouTube video. He goes, Dude, you were at my show last night, come like tell everybody how it was. I'm like, Oh, what's up, you know? So he's like standing there with his dog, and like I'm like, Oh yeah. I was like, very good show, you know, you know, great media. Like, we had a lot of fun, like, go check him out. And like, I'm not trying to like overstay my welcome because like he's filming, his camera guy's like sitting just in the passenger seat, like filming out of there. And uh, he like keeps talking to me, and I'm like, you know, and he goes, Well, actually, like we're gonna go, like, I'm meeting my buddy right now to go film the flippy thing. I was like, Well, you like you want to give me like a tutorial, you know? He's like, Oh, sure. So he's like, Oh, my dog, you know, and then he gets on my skateboard and he's wearing like his cowboy boots and he's like showing us how to do it. And you know, I probably talked for like 10-15 minutes. I'm like, all right, I'm you know, we're gonna go do this. And he's like, All right, you know, that's and then he like stops recording. I'm like, I goes, dude, my office is like a block this way. If you guys want to come like check it out, like I have this clothing brand. And he goes, Oh, sure. So I was like, dude, let me pay for your parking because like parking in Royal Oak is like it sucks with those old meters. Like, I'll pay for your parking. So I'm like paying for his parking. I text Jordan and my brother. I'm like, dude, meet me at the office right now. Like, I'm with Tom Green. They're like, No, you're not. I'm like, I swear to God, right? Like, meet me there in like two minutes. Like, he's coming up to the office. So Jordan like meets us at the intersection. My brother's like driving by in his car, and I'm with Tom Green, and we end up going up there and like hanging out for like 45 minutes, and he like films in our because we had this office because we have a production company too. So we had our office, then like the front half like had a bar and like our little retail side of things. And uh yeah, we meet with them and he's like, Oh, let's get a photo for like the thumbnail for the YouTube video. And I gave him like some screw gear, and he's like wearing the beanie, and I you know, I was like, dude, can I get that photo? And he's like, Oh yeah, sure. Like, here's my number. So he like I got Tom Green's phone number and he like texted me the the video or the photo, and like we made his YouTube channel, like, dude, that's so sweet, you know. And it's got like 90, like, I made I posted that on like screwvised. Like, Tom Green teaches us how to do like the flippy thing, and it's got like a bunch of views, but like for the next like two weeks I'd had random people text me, like, dude, you ran into how are you how do you know Tom Green? Like, watched his YouTube video, it was super, super hilarious. So, like, that was super cool. Yeah, so like Tom Green was just like one of our favorite comedians, and then uh like a couple years before that, I saw Norm McDonald was coming to the Royal Look Music Theater, which Norm is like my brother and I's favorite comedian like all time. And I was like, Tyler, we gotta go see Norm, you know? So we get tickets, we go see Norm, and he's great. And people like halfway through their show are like leaving because they're so offended, and we're like in tears, crying and laughing. We're like, dude, this is so good. And you know, we wrap up at the show, and we're like, we gotta try and get like a photo with Norm. You know, I was like, that'd be so cool. And Tyler goes, I saw like where their bus is, and my brother's a pretty smooth talker, and he goes, I gotta get like a cigarette because I want to do like Norm's bit because Norm has this bit where he talks about how hard it is to start smoking instead of stop smoking, you know. And he just has like an oral fixation. So Tyler goes, I gotta bum a cigarette off somebody and like have it behind my ear, and I'm gonna hit him with like his own joke, you know. So Tyler again like hams up like the security guy and like you know, he's kind of buddying up with them before Norm gets out, and he's like, you know, where's Norm gonna be? And he's like, Oh, yeah, kind of comes out over here. So Norm comes out, and there's like a few people back there, and we get talking to Norm and like, Can you get a photo shirt? And he's like, What do you guys do? Like, oh, we got this clothing brand, we got this production company, and we talked to him for probably 10-15 minutes. And uh he's like, Oh, that's super cool. That's super like he took like genuine interest in us, and like we were like we met him and we're like, he's a cool dude. You know, sometimes you meet famous people and they're just like dicks, you know? But he was very nice, very cool. And he goes to my brother, he's like, Oh, you know, like uh take my email, it's like stay in touch. He goes, I don't take my email, I never check my email. He goes, take my number. So Tyler got his phone number, and he would text Norm and like randomly like wish him Merry Christmas, just like whatever. And he would text back. And then this was like, I think when he I forget what birthday it was, but it was on his birthday, and uh I goes, Tyler, it's Norm's birthday today. You should text him and wish him like happy birthday. He goes, All right, good idea. But Tyler's very good, like writing like little jingles, like very a wordsmith, and he goes, I'm gonna just like film like a minute song on guitar and just like record it and send it to him. So he records this like 60 second-long song about like Norm's life and his career. Text it to him. Norm goes, Oh, thank you, Tyler, that was super nice, and posted it on his Instagram and shout out and shouted out my brother. I'm like, that's so freaking cool, you know. So he texted me, posted it, and then sadly passed away. Like, that was the other like celebrity that that happened that was like super sad. Yeah, but uh I said saw like Judd Apatal like last year post it was like, hey, if anybody has any like media with norm, like we're making this documentary, we'll you know, love to have your submissions, blah blah blah. We may use it. So I sent him like the photo we got in Tyler's like video of his song, and I sent it to him. Then like six months later, the producer was like, Can you sign this waiver? Blah blah blah. So he did. So who knows? Maybe like we'll be Tyler's song will be in like his like little documentary, which would be super cool. Yeah, God, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 51:54

I I love Norm and I love everything Judd Appitow does. So like that that crossover is like, holy shit. Uh I mean, I wish he was doing something with Norm instead of about Norm, you know. Dude, Norm's got one of my favorite dad jokes of all time. Which one and it's so simple. It's I D is a weird abbreviation. Do you know this one? It's like ID is a weird abbreviation because I is short for I. Yeah, identification. And D is short for dentation. Oh yeah. Dude, I fucking love that. I love I love Norm's I'm gonna waste your time bitch. Oh, dude. Those are my favorite. Those are my fucking favorite. Like the moth thing.

SPEAKER_06 52:35

Do you make the moth joke?

SPEAKER_05 52:37

It's like an eight-minute joke. My brother, my brother is a funny dude. Like, he can write music and he's just a wordsmith, and he's adapted like norm jokes, and he's like made up a couple little jokes and has turned them into like 30-minute norm jokes. We were on this batcher party a couple years ago, and uh my buddy Logan is like his batcher party goes, Tyler, tell like one of your jokes, you know, and it's like the dumbest punchline that's like 30 minutes long, and it's like two or three in the morning, where it's like this Airbnb, and we've all been like drinking all day, you know. And Tyler like starts telling us a joke, and he's got you know the room captivated. There's like 14 that guys in the basement all listening, drinking his thing, and everybody's just so just tuned in, and there's all these little micro jokes along the way, you know.

SPEAKER_06 53:18

And then he ends up saying the punchline at the end, and like half the group was so pissed. God, dude, are you serious? We just went upstairs and went to bed and break in tears laughing. Like, that was the best compliment ever. Are you serious? We just waste a half hour for that.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

For the light was on. I fucking love that. That is my favorite type of comment. Yeah, I I hate it when it's not I hate it when it's done poorly, though. Like a like a 55-year-old like relative will share one of those, yeah, but like it's not a norm joke, so it's not good. But it'll be like and they're like, oh, this is so funny. And like the joke is so like subpar. Yeah, but like you gotta deliver it, right? Norm Norm's fucking moth joke. Yeah, I think you got the wrong kind of doc.

SPEAKER_03 54:07

Why did you come in here? The light was on. It's great, dude.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

Oh, I'm gonna make you watch that later because I I know you don't know what we're talking about, but it's like nine minutes long. Oh the anti-joke, and they kept trying, yeah. And and the who was who is it on? Was it on Conan?

SPEAKER_05 54:26

He does a handful on Conan, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

Uh but whoever the host was was like trying to get him to like get to the fucking point. He does it on Conan a handful of times. And he's like, he might have slowed down more because they were like, hey, get to the fucking point. This isn't gonna fit between commercial breaks, you know.

SPEAKER_05 54:44

Yeah, dude, he he kills his. I could watch Norm videos all day long.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

I gotta watch the I gotta watch his Hitler's dog special again. Oh, that's good. There's a there's a joke in there where he's talking about how like there's a buff guy, but he's like peeling his skin off. And I don't remember the point of the joke. Do you remember?

SPEAKER_05 55:00

I don't really I watched that one, I don't really remember that one. And I watched, did you watch the last one he did, like right before he died, where he it was filmed during COVID? He filmed it like in his house by himself to no audience, and still it was phenomenal.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

That's that's like terrible.

SPEAKER_05 55:16

It was dude, it was still great. Like it was timing and delivery. You gotta it's on Netflix. It was like the last Netflix, you know, comedy special he put out.

SPEAKER_02 55:25

I'm gonna have to watch it. He's alone at home, huh?

SPEAKER_05 55:27

Yeah, it's because he filmed it, he had it written and he he knew he was sick, right? And like nobody else really did, so he probably wanted to get it out, get it out, and yeah, yeah. He is like the greatest comic of all time. Ah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Yeah, I was I was r fucking seriously bummed when I found out he died. I'm like, come on. Like mainly like in a selfish way, because I'm like, there's not gonna be any new norm shit now.

SPEAKER_05 55:50

I saw something on Instagram the other day. It was like, I forget if it was a norm joke. Maybe I think it was just a repost of one of his things, and the top comment was, man, norm's stuff is getting a little dry. I haven't heard him come out with anything in it recently, and it was just such the norm response.

SPEAKER_06 56:05

Yeah, he's probably died at that. I was like, Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Dude, I had a I had a comic uh James River come on, and we were fucking I don't know if it was during the podcast, maybe it was after the podcast, but he played me this clip of uh oh fuck, it was Bob Sagitt. Bob Sagitt and Norm were talking, fucking rest in peace to both of them. But Bob Saggett was talking about like, oh, you know, my friend had just lost his son.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

Dean Martin. Is that Dean Martin lost his son?

SPEAKER_02 56:29

Dean Martin lost his son, and then he and he so he's like, you know what I said to him? And he goes, like, I found your son, and then he ends the show abruptly. Dude, that clip is so fucking hilarious. I found your son. All right, everybody, he's just so pissed.

SPEAKER_01 56:47

So good. You know what I said to him? What did he say? I found your son. I found I found your son.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

So good.

SPEAKER_05 56:57

You know what you should do? Do you have any ad reads for your show? No, you should get ads, you should get people to sponsor this, and then you should do some Norm McDonald-esque uh ad reads for this. Have you seen his for his podcast? No. Oh, dude, you just gotta look up a YouTube compilation of Norm McDonald ad reads. He lost like every ad read because he would take his own liberties on it, and like the mangrate was like this like thing that would go on your grill to like protect your grill, and like mangrate pulled their sponsor. But I guarantee you the Norm McDonald Mangrate ad reads got him more than any of them. Like the script goes, the Mangrate? Like, what is this? And then you do like the dollar shave club when that was a thing, and it goes, they send razor sharp razors to your door. How is that safe? It's like, dude, watch the norm. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

For one month, you could kill yourself.

SPEAKER_06 57:45

He goes, Oh, how did they make any money? Like, quantity out the adamica.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

It's like, you gotta watch the norm ad reads because he butchers like everyone and gets like pretty much everyone pulled because you won't read from the sheet and keeps ad living onto it.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Dude, I love this. Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the Bill Burr thing. Like, Bill, like Bill Burr was that was a thing he was talking about. It was like he was getting in trouble with ad reads. He's like, but I'm making them funny so people actually fucking listen to him. Yeah, like isn't that what you mean?

SPEAKER_05 58:11

I was a sponsor, be like, dude, yeah. You know what's kind of a show we're sponsoring here. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

Take your own liberties, do it. Bill, Bill Burr. It's not it's this is a fucking stupid thing, but he Bill Burr, every time he would read an ad read for ZipRecruiter, he'd be like, Zip, and he'd like build up pressure and be like, recruiter. And I don't, it's so dumb, but it made me laugh every time. It sticks in my mind, dude. Like to this day, I still think about that once in a while.

SPEAKER_05 58:36

We really should do fake ad reads for like local businesses. Oh, you should do that.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

Dig's Consignment. If you want to buy garbage from a stupid whore, come on down to Diggs Consignment. Our store is in a hallway. You should Oh, is that your neighbor?

SPEAKER_05 58:52

You should do the Shark Club. Dude, dude, do like a fake one and then have them like a few. I know I kind of know the owner, dude.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

Bike night though. Yeah, fucking, yeah. Fucking sponsor the bike night.

SPEAKER_10 59:02

They just posted their uh first bike night for the 26th uh year.

unknown 59:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 59:06

From Boomers. Yeah, they do it every time. Shark Club's one that has a bunch of pool tables, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:11

Yeah, yeah. That place is the shit, dude. I love it. They need they need better staff though, not fucking 19-year-olds with no stories. Really?

SPEAKER_05 59:18

I've only been there like once or twice, I guess. Where are you actually from? I grew up in Clio.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:24

Which is like just north of Flint, in between Flint and Frankenmouth. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:28

How old are you?

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Trade use.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

You're trying to figure out if you were at Saginaw at the same time.

SPEAKER_05 59:37

Yeah, I went to Saginaw from 2011 to 2015.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

I was there I started in 2014. And then my undergrad got in I graduated in 2019. And then my master's was 2022.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

You guys didn't hear me, it was a pretty big deal in Canada. You didn't know they had the statue of me over and uh there's like 70,000 students. You're like, we didn't know each other? That's so crazy. No, but like one of the first, like, did you ever go to the common grind, the little coffee shop that was right there I think so on the plaza that was like the only plaza that was the one that's like right on the same as like the same strip as the apartments? Yeah, yes, yeah. Like Titabowasi and like Bay Road or whatever. Um we became good, really good buddies with the guys that owned that because they kind of started at the same time we did. And like our first like little retail store was like they had a whole wall that was just like not getting used behind the counter. And we had like a screw, like pop-up like retail shop. Yeah. So that's where we kind of like cut our teeth. That's where we started our business. Yeah, it was fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:39

Okay, do you guys sponsor anybody? Like, do you have affiliates?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:42

Yeah, like riders, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but we have a couple of snowboarders that we sponsor, and we're trying to like I didn't we didn't do a great job of it this year, like growing the team because we opened our storefront, and like that was a whole just thing of figuring that out, you know, and it's a lot to like manage a team of riders. Um but last year we sponsored a handful of kids, and then this year just kind of carried it over. We didn't really sponsor anybody, but we did sponsor one kid new this year, uh Kian from uh Wisconsin, and he entered Minnesota. He he rips, but yeah, we have like five guys that ride for us, four guys, four guys and a girl.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Yeah. So you have dealt with modern. Do you know Nick Mullins? I know of him.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:23

I'm not I'm friends with him, but the blind lion?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

Yeah, dude. I've been trying to I gotta hit him back up because he agreed to do the podcast and then it just fell through for some reason. Really? I wanna get I wanna have him come on, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

How did you start college in 2011?

SPEAKER_10 1:01:40

You graduated in 2011? I graduated high school in 2011. Started in the fall. He's older than or I'm older than he is.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:47

Did you graduate what year did you graduate high school? 12. When's your birthday?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

I mean I it's almost did you guys give me a birthday? Yeah, so he's like seven seven seven months older. Did you guys give me a birthday? Yeah, dude. Um I'm like sitting here.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

Actually, I got you this hat.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:03

Dude, you're What is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

She's like doing math on like, you weren't 18 yet. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

Well, because I was like, that's a lot of years away from when I started, but you're not that much older than me.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

She has a master's degree and she can't do fourth grade math. My master's degree is not a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:30

Damn. Then graduated four years later.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Yeah. It just felt really young for you. Like it felt too soon for you to graduate high school. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:40

That is weird to say. I graduated or college 11 years ago. Yeah, I don't feel that old.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:48

We're in that, we're in that age where it's like, damn, like I have memories that are like 20 years old where I'm like, I don't feel like that was 20 years ago. That's funny. It's weird, isn't it?

SPEAKER_10 1:02:57

Yeah. We were skating 10 years ago, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

10? No, we weren't. We were skating like 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:04

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

It's it's 2026, dude. That's insane. Yeah, that was 15 years ago that we were like living at zero or going or modern or Auburn.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:14

We were at Auburn or Zero?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

What was that shitty one that was well it wasn't shitty, but it was small. Poniac. No, no, no, no. Okay. Or the Newport box. Shitty was no shitty was the wrong word. No, no, that was the shitty one. No, though it was nice, but it was small, and they had like an eight stair that we were never gonna touch. Do you remember that one? They had like a box and like a hip. Drake? No. No, no, it was an indoor park. It was there for like a year.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:42

It was uh Citigrind. City Grind. In Auburn Hills.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:45

And we were not qualified to skate anything there.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:47

There's a lot of good videos from um from City Grund. Skate hungry. People that were uh skating there, but half of them went to what's the shop that's on in White Lake? I can't think of the skate shop. It's not people's, it's something else.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:08

Is that a skate shop? I drive by there every day.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:10

Yeah, yeah. On Commerce.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:13

And it's been around since Metro Trenomos in Detroit City.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:17

I look at it all the time. I'm like, what is that?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:19

Yeah, that's where I bought my the board. That's a new garage, that's where I bought it. Exodius. Exodius? People from Skatepad exited today.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:26

It's right by Elpin. That's right, that's close. It's right next to our.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

Did you just call Exodus Exodious?

SPEAKER_10 1:04:30

Exodious is something or whatever. This is something like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

I don't know. Anything more than four letters, it's a 50-50 chance.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:46

I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:46

I just remember Dan for the first time. Because you got the comments that all the elevators went to that shop. And I forgot who owns that shot.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:56

Zek Mayamoto? Holy fuck, dude. You get everything wrong. I don't, dude, it's been how long? According to you, 10 years. Or Zek Harkin?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

Yeah, it's pretty close to that.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:05

Horkin? Horkin's right. Yeah, I don't remember how Zek or Jack. I just remember seeing just a long name of random letters.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:14

John Maleki. Yeah. Is Epion Royal still around? Does that ring a bell? Why are we naming your competitor? Fuck Epion Royal.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:25

Do a screw ad read for me, if you wouldn't mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:29

Choose happy. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

Yeah. You guys gotta come do the screw shop.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:35

I keep seeing it on TikTok. Did you go there? Like, where did you get these? No, not yet. I see it all on TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

Oh, you bought it on the TikTok shop?

SPEAKER_10 1:05:42

No, this I went to the um this I bought at Pineb and then the yellow one I bought at Holly.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:46

Exclusively we do collabs like the resorts around here. Oh, red on okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:51

I found all that about on uh TikTok from Really?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:54

Mm-hmm. Yeah, you want to hear a funny TikTok story? Absolutely. Like we've been making content for Years like since we kind of started the brand, that's how we've like grown it and just like reached people, right? And when TikTok became a thing, I was like, Oh, we should start posting on TikTok, right? A couple years ago, we did like the collab with like Matt Holly and Pine Knob and Alpine Valley. So I was like, I try and post like a bunch of content. So I was like driving to like one of our screen printers, I was like, I need a video from today. I was like driving back from my parents' house, Matt Holly was on the way. I'm like, all right, I'll just pull in the parking lot. I got like the sample jacket, I got like the beanie, I'm gonna go like promote the jacket and the beanie because it's gonna be carried there when like the mountain opens. I was like, I'll just stop in there real quick and I'll like you know post a record and post a video. So like but I post like the same thing on like Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok and Facebook, and it's all the same video. And uh I like record the videos like 30 seconds, like hey, you know, this is the screw Mont Holly collab jacket and beanie, like you can get it when Mont Holly opens this season, and like whatever, posted it, drove down the screen for whatever, blah blah blah, got online like for the next day to go post like my video for the next day. I'm like, dude, we got like 50,000 views on like this TikTok video. Like, bro, like people are loving the jacket and the beanie. Like, this is awesome. And then I look at the comments, I'm like, everybody's like, what's a ma oli? Because I say ma instead of like mount alley.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:21

After the comments were like roads about that point. They were like, what's a ma holy? Maching out. I said ma.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:30

And we got like a thousand followers on whatever. And other people were like upset, they're like FYP too local. Like, I had to like look up what that meant. I'm like, I don't even know what that means. Yeah, it was like my for you page is too local. People were upset that like the video targeted them because it was in the area.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:48

It happens almost all the time. It really does. Yeah, we was that the one you were in the tunnel at Holly.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:52

No, that was like I it wasn't even snow. I was just like in the parking lot, and it was just like kind of like it was like I think.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:05

The majority of people I didn't even do it on purpose.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:08

I was just like, how I say ma like my girlfriend makes like the tin roof, like in Detroit, I say roof instead of like roof, you know. Like I just say like ma, and I'd be like, what the ma like. Oh, like don't we feel bad about mom? I don't care. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

Like the people getting mad about my for you page is getting too close. Like we talk about Waterford or the lakes or fucking the one that we got a bunch on was we talked about Gibraltar Trade Center, and every like almost every comment on there is either like a list of three random fucking things you could you could have gotten at Gibraltar, or it's people saying, Man, this is getting too close to home. I gotta reset my feed. They're fucking they're triangulating me. Interesting, dude. I gotta ask you a question. This screw sessions, is that you guys? Yeah, the musicians? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because I was like, when I did research, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:01

Oh, I didn't even think you became prepared. You're just gonna bullshit the whole time. So how do you how do you do you know these musicians or no? So like we've been doing this for 12 years, 13 years this November. Um, and the whole brand, the ethos of the brand is like choose happy, is like do what makes you happy in life. Uh so and I've always liked music, been attracted to just like just I love music and people that start a band and whatnot. So um we moved on to this area. We just we had our podcasts, and with that, there was like YouTube series where it was like the triple J like live sessions, which they like still do it, it's like Australian like radio station, and they invite like musicians on to like cover and they do like cool covers, you know, and like kind of help blow.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:46

Yeah, dude, childish Gambino has the best cover on there. Which one does he do? He does Tamiya's so into you, it's amazing. It's fucking amazing. I don't mean you're doing that.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:56

Yeah, no, so I was like, that would be cool to do. Like, we got like all the equipment now that we have our podcast, and I'm like, I love we like we love helping like people pursue their passion. And I was like, Yeah, why not just like have these people on for a podcast trying to shed some light on them? And then like when they're here, like, dude, bring your guitar. I was like, record like two original songs, and then like a cover, because everybody's gonna know a cover and do like a popular one that you like and that you're good at, yeah, and we'll like produce it and put it on our channel, you know. So we just started doing that with it, and then we got to know just like the owners of different bars and whatnot, and like Royal Oak. So we met like Tony, Tony Vegas, we call him the guy that owns like Fifth Avenue, owns uh Tequila Blue and the piano bar. And we just got to become buddies with him and we threw like a side tangent. We threw like a we shot like a short film, like a snowboarding short film, like a 30-minute short film where we went up to Mount Bohemia, like my brother and I and our buddy Logan to go like snowboarding, and uh we like made a movie, then we like we were like, let's premiere it. So we premiered it at like Fifth Avenue, like a Thursday in like their upstairs like little area because it's not used on Thursday. And we had like really good turnout, like Moose Jose sponsored it, it was cool. But then Tony was like, Oh, that was a cool event. Because, dude, you guys can like have like the upstairs of like tequila blue on Thursday nights because you know it's closed. So then we started doing like screw live sessions where we would like bring in local bands and have them perform and we'd pay them like through the door and whatnot, and like the bar made money, and then we got like exposure and then we had like a little artist market. But we would just reach out to people that we'd go to a bar and there's like an open mic or people were jamming and they were cool, like we'd be like, Hey, like watch your Instagram, this is what we do. And then I would just like DM random people that I thought were like talented and like, hey, do you guys want to be on a podcast and do this? And like, oh sure, oh yeah. And then we're like, Oh, like now we're doing like these little shows like once a month. The uh you guys want to do that, and we're like, We'll get you trying to get you paid. It's like if you guys bring people, like we'll get you paid from the door, sort of thing, you know. So it's yeah, yeah. It's a cool little way just to like build culture and community and help musicians just get out there and just like kind of like win-win-win, like the bar makes money, we make money off the door, the band makes money, then everybody gets their name out there, sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. That's cool little thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:07

I feel like you and your brother, based on your stories, are very similar to the way that my brain works. Like, I'm I'm business minded only if it has to do with art. Because then it's like it feels like side quests. Yeah, you're like, how can I like how can I fuck with my life to get all these things to line up? You know what I mean? I I love it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:23

It's like I I yeah, you find like cool ways to like do stuff and also make it a business thing and like try and make some money off of it and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

Yeah, that's the way I say like I always say it's side quests, yeah. It's like, you know, my main fucking campaign is like I'm trying to do comedy, but like, yeah, you know, on those side quests I get to sit down and talk to people.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:41

Yeah, yeah, it's a great way to think of it. Yeah, I fucking love this. Yeah, yeah. It's fun, it's fun. You get to meet a lot of cool people and just like you never know who you'll meet when or who knows who. And it's like, oh, like so and so, like, where's my buddy? Like, where's your beanie? You know, like I was been to your shop, or you know, like went to one of your events and it's super cool. Yeah, we just like doing fun stuff to like for the community or like bring people together that's just like a fun, good time. It's like what kind of party or event would I want to go to? You know, like what would be fun, what would be different, and trying to keep it just like pretty like PG, so like anybody can come, you know. Like we did the thing at Yield Saloon, and like until like eight o'clock, like people could bring their kids, you know, and like watch skateboarding and do whatever, and then I had like a free show for people. Yeah, and it was like fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

That's fucking sick. Yeah, yeah, dude. I love this. Yeah, this is like I have like a bit that I'm working on talking about um uh I have a I have a bit that I'm working on. I don't know how to make it funny yet, but like bit is basically like I feel like I feel like I lost like 10 years to like Groundhog's Day because like you know, when I was in my teenage years, it was I was I was in bands and I was trying to start a skateboarding company. We were filming skate videos, we were putting out all kinds of YouTube videos, and like and I felt like I had like aligned with my purpose by doing all these different creative ventures and the and I don't know how to make that funny yet because like then it goes into like, well, then I had kids with like the wrong woman, so I was like miserable for like 13 years and didn't do any art, you know what I mean? And but like getting back to it now in my 30s, where it's like, okay, I'm doing comedy, I'm doing you know, I've I'm doing the podcast, I've got all these side things going on now where I'm like, oh yeah, yeah. I forgot like how energizing it is to like chase things that you like love, you know? Yeah, I yeah, it's like we uh got a job. Well, yeah, but I got a job I got a job because I dumped a load into an idiot three times.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:39

Well, that was your choice. It was it was no one held a gun to my head. I decided to go work on cars for 10 years, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:45

But yeah, we but getting back to it, we're not I don't want to be your I don't want to be your competitor. You you go do your fucking t-shirt thing if you want to, but I'm like I'm enjoying the podcast. Like it the weird thing about this though is that my entire product is attention, and it's like you have to get a lot of attention to make it make any of it. If it could pay for itself, I'd be fucking stoked. Just that. Like if it if it just covered its.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:11

Well, I think you gotta try and get some sponsors.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

Yeah. Are you look are you looking to sponsor a podcast? I don't know. Give me an ad read, too. Their clothes are pretty neat. No, I would I would at least let ChatGPT generate a fucking script.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:27

You like golfing, but you don't want to look like a douche.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:34

Growing up, we all fucking we were all playing Tony Hawk and we're like, God, fucking golf is so lame.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:40

Yeah, when he had to go and shag the guy's balls for him and like Tony Hawk 4 or whatever it was. Yeah. On the golf cart trying to get away from him.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:51

Dude, fuck yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:52

Uh I bet you could get this. If you're getting like two million views a month, you could reach out to like four local businesses and be like a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:04

Like we used to do with for alcohol, but for sponsors.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:07

Play heymester for Hey, you want to sponsor this? I forgot my ID. Would you like to give me some money every month for my podcast? That's all you got. I bet you get staying outside at 711. You get a few bucks. Or we just find out. I know a bunch of business groupies. I just haven't tried that part of it yet. I'm just I'm just enjoying this. Like, this is my core video. Oh, now you're going to, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:29

Well, that's so like that's what you gotta figure out though, too, because that's like the fine line. It's like then, you know, you're just doing it for the fun of it, but then you make it to a business, then it kind of complicates it. And you know, you just gotta figure out what you want out of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:41

Right. Well, the main thing I would not want is anyone telling me what I'm allowed to say. See, that's the that's the now that we're talking about.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:48

Just do like a norm ad read though.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:51

Hey man, so you I sponsored the podcast, but the first episode you called the lady from Diggs a cunt. We can't do that. Oh, we can.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:59

I think you need to be very fine three.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:07

It's gonna have to be like exclusively like dispensaries or bars, like people that are okay with being a me being an asshole. Or dispensaries are probably comedy. 100%. Uh fuck yeah. Especially since like dude, how many episodes did I get way too high doing like drum rudiments over there, waiting for people to show up? I'm like working on paradidals and I'm ripping my pen.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:28

You're not good at a fleet though.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:29

Uh oh, I'm aware, sir. You're terrible at weed. I'm aware. Do you remember? I mean, I run. Oh, I forgot about that one. I was in moccasins running.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

You don't have to go in the hall of your high school, sir. I know.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:44

Yeah. Dude, it's like 2026 now. It was like 15 years. Get over it. Get over it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:50

No, I fucking I the the one though is that we've got highest fucking elementary school on the playground, and I started having a panic attack. I was like, I gotta call my dad. And they're like, don't. And I'm like, I have to. They're like, don't, you're just high in a fucking playground, dude. Shut the fuck up. I call my dad, and I'm like, just come home. And I'm like, I can't.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:09

Huh? That was us sitting on the stair side that they redid. That we're like, dude, that would be a dream to hit with a skateboard.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

So you burned your brain. Like permanently.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:20

Bro, because I literally just walked that with Zina the other day. And I was just thinking about that when you said that. And I was walking up to it, and I'm like, that's still sketchy when you throw it roll out.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

32. I'm not jumping downstairs unless there's a.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:34

I want to.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:34

Bro, when we've gone camping, there's a camp, there's a skate park at the campground that we go to.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:41

Holly campground. Used to be like KOA up in Holly. Oh. But yeah, there's a fucking there's like a five-foot, there's like a five-foot half pipe there. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:50

Dude, come by the shop. We have a two-foot mini ring. Fuck yeah. Dude, like it's you cannot get broken off on it. It is the perfect little 8x16. I would be surprised if you hurt yourself high. If you can, if you're not a skate, you're gonna be high, bro. You're gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:06

Dude, I was like a mini celebrity at the skate at this at the fucking campground because no one, like it's all like fat 40-year-olds who are camping with their kids and just like drunk and yelling at their kids to go away. And then I'm like skating the skate park with their kids, like like dropping in, and like I wasn't even doing anything. I was like trying to do like rock and rolls on the half pipe and like pop shove it. I could pop shove it all day. Yeah, I could I could go blind like Nick and fucking do pop shove it still, but skating a half pipe.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:37

Dude, do you come to the two-foot mini? You could skate that thing. Fuck yeah, you guys come tomorrow, every Thursday, throw in your calendar, 6 to 9 p.m. We have a screw social, we call it Greenlander sponsors pizza. We have a little bar in our shop, we have free drinks, we have free Red Bull, and you come skate, hang out, meet other people. Dude, that's kind of like vibe. That's awesome. Yeah, we started that like a month ago. It's been a cool little little thing that we do, just to kind of bring people together and just like people meet people and you get like a free skate session, free food.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:04

Yeah. We used to have to go to church to get a free skate session. You remember that? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:10

The WCA.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:11

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, but then we kind of like just bypassed that and just went straight to the skating.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:17

Well, we didn't have any money, so if we sat down and listened to the pastor talk about malarkey for an hour, then we got to skate for four hours for free. So that was pretty dope.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:25

Yeah, I don't ever remember paying to skate at zero until we get older.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:30

I definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:31

I see now there's nothing but scooters there.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:35

Have you been there recently? Dude, I haven't been there in the world.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:38

No, but my one friend literally sent me a photo or a video of her little daughter riding around on a scooter, and all I saw was scooters.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:45

I mean, if it's keeping the doors open, who cares, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:48

They got scooters on the wall there, like for a whole shop. Like it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:53

I tell you what though, like I if I was a if if skateboard, that's you.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:59

I'm trying to add it to the calendar.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:01

Oh, there's so much shit on there. Dude, uh if if like the Tony Hawk games and Bam Marge era were not like the biggest things in media when we were kids, like we all would have been scooter riders because it's way easier to start. Like starting skateboarding is so fucking hard. It is frustrating. Like just to roll down the street.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:24

Would sit on it and ride it down the driveway. Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:27

But if you had a handle, if you had a handle, you'd be like, this thing's fucking dope, dude.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:31

I mean, I technically did learn with a scooter with the little rider thingy that I then I finally took that off the skater on the skateboard. Oh, I did have that. Because it had like some weird cat thingy on it back when I was like six or five. Yeah. What are you talking about? This is before your time, because you're you're young. You gotta realize I'm old.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:50

You're like two years older than me. What year were you born? I'm 91. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. You're old. You are old.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:55

I didn't know you were that old. I can still kick flip too. Two years older than me. And you were you old piece of shit. You fucking oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:04

Are you are you okay?

SPEAKER_10 1:22:05

I had the I had like the first plastic snowboard from way back in the day. Like you had like the bindings were part of the board. Yeah. And you had to get ratchet straps. You had to get ratchet straps to uh put your boots into the board. Mm-hmm. That was back in the 90s.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:22

Like the snurfer, you know what a snurfer is? They're made in Muskegon. Snurfer? Yeah, it's like just a wooden kind of plane, but it's kind of got a kind of thing. Yeah, okay, yeah. That's what inspired Jake Burton to make the snowboard, and it's out of Muskegon, Michigan. Yeah. It was the uh what do they call it? It's the company that Brunswick that makes like pool tables and boarding. Yeah, yeah. Out of Muskegon, they the guy that did I can't think of his name, Charmin something.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:51

Yeah, there is a whole story about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:53

There's like a little statue, he's the guy that created the snurfer, it was like a toy for his kids. Yeah. Then it became a thing. And we have one of the original ones. My brother's like college roommate was from Muskegon and his dad gave it to us. And then like Snurfer got like reinvigorated. Somebody restarted the brand, and now they like made, they like re-released them and like upgraded them a little bit. Is this the blue thing with like yellow rope that I see everywhere?

SPEAKER_10 1:23:16

Because I think it had a little tie thingy. It has a rope, yeah. No, but I think the rope was gone because it had a bindings in it still. Oh, there's no bindings on it, it's just like a little bit of a little bit of a little down the road because it wasn't like an actual burton or anything, it was just like a plastic surfboard style. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:33

It almost has like grip tape cut off. Yeah, the one I have, it has like little like dots to kind of like grip your boots. It's like little raised. I can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:42

This is cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:43

Yeah, but that's what started the what started. I didn't know about it. I've never heard of this.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:49

The technology they had back then is way different compared to now.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:53

But it started mesquite.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:55

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:56

It was burn and then there was somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

Oh, is that it? The dots?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:00

Yeah, it's the brown, maybe the brown on the bottom right. Yeah, but yeah. That's what it's burn and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:04

That looks like it's got like rubber pads on it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:07

But is that color? Yeah. But like when we had our grand opening of our shop, one of our friends he bought brought us like the new one, and we got him like both there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right on. One on the left, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:19

That's fucking cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:23

Yeah, there's like a little statue code and like downtown Mosquegan of the guy, and it's like, you know. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:28

And now people are doing like fucking I don't even know. I mean 18 whatever, like 2160s or whatever the fuck. Like for a while. It's just insane. I don't even want to do that in an office chair, and they're doing it in the air. I mean crazy. Did you ever see that insane?

SPEAKER_10 1:24:43

You ever see the Olympics was insane? Yeah. Japan was throwing down though. Yeah, they own big air.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:52

They train in these giant airbags and they just like huck themselves. Well, they're so little, they just go straight down the thing and then just launch itself. They they cleaned up. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:02

They are smaller riders compared to uh any other riders. Well, I've seen stuff like that. You know that's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:07

So dumb. It's like because it's like the knuckle, you guys watch the X games? Yeah. Like the Knuckle Huck. That's like my favorite event to watch because it's all like style. Yeah. You know? Because you watch the big air and they're throwing eight whatever 2160. Yeah. Little Zed. How all is it's a good one. But it's like one, I don't even I don't even know how the announcers count that fast how many rotations they get. And then they're like, I've seen people talk, I'm like, and this would be a great idea for like a snowboarding event. Should be you can't do more than like a 720. So then it's just like style. Yeah. Yeah. So then it's more style-based because it's like so ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:40

That's what I used to love about like when Bob Bernkost would do the big uh the the mega ramp competitions, is like he would just do like, oh, I'm gonna do a switch back 180 and not touch the board, and everyone's like, What the fuck? Did you see what he did? And then like the next guy's doing like a fucking whatever, a 900 over the gap, and you're like, I I don't care. Like, yeah, the switch back 180 was like cooler to me.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:03

Yeah, you know, the evolution of board sports in the last like 15-20 years.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:07

Fucking insane, especially girls, like girl skateboarders when we were growing up, it's like the girl pro skateboarder might do like a 50-50 on a box, and everyone's like, Whoa! And I'm like, who gives a fuck? Now they're throwing shit that was like that's like insane. I I I can't believe the evolution of women in skateboarding in the last 15 years. Whatever.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:29

Yeah, every time they're doing it in a skirt on TikTok, it's insane.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:32

You have ruined your brain. Like what it's actually down like a narrative, and you're like, so anyway, look at this fucking.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:39

No, I'm saying dead serious. All the checking TikTok, they're insane. They're in skirt doing shit that guys can't even do.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:46

You're saying the skirt is like a limiting factor? Like if she's wearing jeans, she'd throw like gangster shit, but it's just funny that they can do it in a skirt.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:54

Well, you got more free roam.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:56

You can flick your legs out there. Dude, they're wearing a I would if okay, if I'm back all they're wearing a skirt because it's like you're gonna get more views, you're gonna get more engagement if you're like an attractive woman skateboarding in a skirt.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:10

This is funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:13

Maybe I guess. Follow any good Scottish skateboarders?

SPEAKER_10 1:27:22

No, but there is a Scottish golfer. I can't remember his name. Is he wearing killed? Yeah. Roy McElroy? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:29

I can't say that name.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:30

No, he like yells and he always walks the golf course. I don't know. They all have to walk the golf course.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:37

They have to they have to. Pros have to walk. It's part of the sport.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:40

He's not a professional golfer. Oh, I think you're doing some Scottish Scottish dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:46

Paige is huffing. She doesn't huff. You got her stressed out with your malarkey. Like most people do mushrooms and like create new pathways in their brain that are like good. I don't know what you did, but You broke pathways in your brain. You talk about the Scottish meme though.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:03

Have you seen the meme? It's like from the Power Rangers. Have you seen this as like an actual episode of Power Rangers? She's like, you know cheesy Power Rangers were back in the day. Yeah. Like the villains, like a chick. She's like fighting them, and she's like, the, you know, the red one's the smart one. The pink one's the pretty one. And he's like the blue and jeans. He's like, what are you? And he goes, I'm Scottish.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:23

That was like a superpower. So ridiculous. He has a thick Scottish accent. That's just what he made. He had like no attribute power. He's just the Scottish Power Ranger.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:37

He's just trashy Irish. That's all he is.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:40

I'm Scottish punches.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:43

It's like the like the Greenskeeper from fucking The Simpsons. Dude, that's fucking hilarious. It's all in nature.

SPEAKER_07 1:28:54

It's from The Simpsons.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:59

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:00

Now I feel like I want to watch the Power Rangers.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:03

Dude, when I first saw Jin Woo, I thought Jin Woo was a girl. Oh yeah. I was like, there's no fucking just because he was like 12 or something, and you know, but like in long hair. But like he did, I don't know, I think he did like a kickflip back tail to like big spin out on like a fucking 15-stair handrail. And I was like, what the fuck? Like just some asinine trick. And I was like, this is like a little girl. But it was a little boy, but still, it's insane.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:34

He's the new Niger.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:35

The new Niger. I thought how Niger was when he was like, Yeah, the hyper on Niger was insane when he was like when he had like the dreads that were down to his ankles. And we were just like, that's a fucking big thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:47

The board was taller than he was.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:49

Not literally. It's a 30-inch board. Shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:54

Or at least the rails were.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:56

Why'd you invite Devin?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:58

Don't be mean.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:59

I'm just kidding. Nigel totally broke his brain.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:02

Don't be mean. Just kidding. He's neurodivergent.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:05

But do you see? Do you see Nigel's fall? Did you guys watch that card?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:08

Dude, that was insane when he broke his skull.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:11

Fuck's sake, dude. I don't know how you're not gun shy like after that either. That is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:16

I think he even like came out and said he wasn't gonna wear helmets.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:18

Like he's something he's been skating again.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:20

Fucking like why, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:22

Dude, that's what I tell people. People don't understand like their the amount of athleticism that like professional board sport riders have, like snowboard, skateboard, whatever, you know? And like these guys in the ice games are extremely athletic. And like you see LeBron James or Michael, Kobe Bryant, whatever, like those guys are very athletic and they are. But it's like these guys, but when they're athletic, but they're also have like they have balls of steel. Because when they practice and they fail, it's not like missing a free throw or a basket. Like when they fail and they mess up and as they're learning and practicing, like they're getting hurt, like they're throwing their body around, which is just uh insane to fathom. And they make it look so easy, and you watch them like snowboard or skateboard, and like they throw whatever, and like, oh, that looks effort. Like, I could do that, you know? And then you get on a skateboard, somebody's never been on a skateboard before, or snowboard, like you can't even stand up and you fall on it, you know, and it's like ridiculous. People can't even fathom how insane it is. Yeah, and they just don't get the respect that like traditional athletes get, you know, but they're extremely athletic and less fearless.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:33

Every year that goes by skateboard, like I've been skateboarding since I was like 10 years old, and it's like every year that's gone by skateboarding, I just like learn how uh insane like all the guys I grew up watching were. Like I I our brains are just like so overstimulated by like how good skateboarding is now that like when you watch like the old 90s or early 2000s like skateboarding fucking parts, you're like this is like this guy just like tray this guy just like tray flipped the 50-50 to fucking box, who gives a shit?

SPEAKER_10 1:32:05

Like that's not even a big deal, but like it is though El Toro got tray flipped finally and rolled away. Yeah, that's insane.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:12

Yeah, Chris Jocelyn tray flipping Al Toro at fucking 29 years old or whatever, insane.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:18

But he worked out for all that though. Like he was working for it and working out and eating healthy and all this, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:25

Which is funny, like they are taking it a lot more seriously, like a sport.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:29

Yeah, you it used to be like, oh, a bunch of burnouts are gonna like get high and drunk and jump in a van, and that's the life. And now like Nean Williams is like he's like a fitness uh yeah, fitness influencer almost above being skateboarder anymore. By the way, the nastiest heel flip on earth.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:48

But it makes sense because they can I mean they are at professional athletes, you know, so like they're taking it more seriously. It's insane. It's crazy. You can't even people the average person just doesn't understand. Like, oh that's cool, you know, right? Like, try that. That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_10 1:33:06

Let's say Rodney Mullen.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:08

Yeah, that's uh way ahead of his time. I I feel like I feel like us being like skateboarders and being like into it for so long, like you can you appreciate more what you're seeing. Like my version of this is like if I put on fucking if I put on like periphery or some band that's got like an insane drummer and I just play it, you're like, oh, this is cool, it's it's got like a good groove or whatever, like the it's it's fucking sick. But I'm like, yeah, but what you don't understand is like he's doing like three different rudiments at the same time, and it's like my like let me explain to you what he's doing, you know, like Danny Carey or fucking Neil Peart or whatever from Rush, Danny Carey from Tool, Carter Beauford from Dave Matthews Band, like any of these drummers. Like, if I showed you what they're actually doing and like notated it, you'd like, what the fuck? That's what they're doing to make that noise. Like that noise is groovy and I like it, but like you you didn't know it was that complicated, you know. You know what I think's weird about the drum thing?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:03

Because like I told you like we kind of grew up playing like bonfire guitar, like knowing chords and just like singing like around the bonfire, right? Which like to me, that's easy to do, is like sing and like play the guitar, yeah, playing like basic chords. Um, and I'm not a good singer at all, but the act of the act of doing it, right? And keeping like a beat. And I thought you got drums, like it is insane to me. Uh I think it's a different lot, like Don Henley or like Phil, these guys that play and play drums at the same time. That's hard as fuck. That's insane because you're doing like so much. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:35

Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Even like the like the Eagles, like you, you're you're playing like pretty basic, like pretty basic drum beats. I can't even do that. I've been playing drums since for 20 years.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:47

Or like the band, I don't know the the the drummer for the band, yeah, but you're familiar with the band? Yeah, and he's the singer, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:54

He like kills it, which is there's a group called Paris Monster. Have you ever seen him? Uh Josh Dion, I think his name is. Anyway, so it's a two-piece band. Josh Dion, I think is his name, is the drummer, the singer, and the keyboard player at the same time, and then he and then he has a bass player. I'm like, even though he's doing like super basic shit because he's drumming with his feet in one hand, and he's playing, but he's playing keyboard, playing the drums.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:25

Oh wow, that's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:26

And singing at the same time, and it's good. It's not like it doesn't come off like if you ever see those buskers that are like they're like stopping and they got like the fucking cymbal and shit and whatever behind them, and it's just like this is this sounds like five instruments, and it sounds like shit. You're like, don't do this, just do one thing good instead of all this bad. It's not like that at all. Like when I listen to Paris Monster, I'm like, I love this band, and there's like you can't tell that this guy's doing everything at once. Yeah, it's so good. I found him on like a on a on, I think he was I think he did like a showcase for like Zildjian or some shit. So I was like watching some like symbol brands YouTube page, and I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing? You know, at most, normally like drummers will play like on a fucking octopad or whatever those things are called. They'll play like landscape fucking or soundscapes on there. This guy's fully playing fucking keyboard while singing about moles or whatever. But like, yeah, fucking insane. Absolutely insane. I can't do it. I've been playing drums for fucking 25 years. I cannot sing and play the drums at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:29

I just like picked it up and mad respected drummers. It's like a it's own little thing. I love it. You know, it's weird, it's cool. I like I enjoy doing it, it's fun, but like yeah, it's a lot to learn and like get down.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:40

I I wonder if you have the same fucking I I think we're pretty similar personality types. Do you like the feeling of being brand new at something? Like completely sucking at it.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:49

Yeah, it doesn't bother me.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:50

Yeah, but like I love that feeling. Like I'm I'm pretty good at a lot of stuff because I like that stuff, but I'm not excellent at almost anything because I get like Jack of all trades, and yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:01

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do love learning yeah, new stuff. Like so like I'm okay at golf, and I'm like, okay, it's yeah, if I get to like a certain level, that's what how I was with the night, like we'd golf a couple times a year, then we started our buddies' best friends. We all started a golf league and uh five years ago. I'm like, if I just get to like bogey golf, like I'll be happy. Yeah, like you know, and then got there. I'm like, all right, that's like I'm good enough with that. Like, if I do that for the rest of my life, like I can hit the ball at all. That's enjoyable. If you can hit the ball at all, you're happy. Yeah. It's not that hard though.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:34

Golf? Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? That's easy. It's hit the ball straight.

SPEAKER_10 1:37:38

It's hard to be hard to break it. I don't know. It is the beat.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:44

Well, I that's why it's hard to get a lot of, I think there's this crossover between these like skaters who golf because it is just this like it's mental and it's just this battle with yourself, you know. Yeah, like of course you play against people, you know, but it's all what's in your golf course.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:03

Yeah, you know, it's mostly you against you.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:05

Yeah, 100%. You know, and that's what's so weird about golf it is like 90% mental, you know, because you'll play with like old guys, they don't even hit the ball that far, but they just hit it straight and they kind of dink away and they just stay consistent the whole time. Then like you bomb a drive, then like your next two shots are just like out of bounds, out of bounds, you know. These guys just kind of dinking away at the ball and he's like, you know, shooting great, right? Right now, right? He shot a 99.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:28

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 1:38:29

And it's like Ed's on like I tell myself it's like you could have a great drive, and then your second shot could just be absolute shit. You know, it's just like or then you could always have it have a shitty shot that have like a phenomenal shot that like saves a hole. So it's just like dude, one shot at a time, sort of thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:43

Yeah, though those like when you get a pure shot, feels good. There's not a better feeling on earth than like puring a shot and sound it makes like on the club.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:53

Oh my god, I have so many bows on my 360 camera from the game.

SPEAKER_10 1:38:58

Oh, it would sound like those on my Xbox 360 microphone. Because we were starting recording from uh with an X5 camera. We did it at the range, what, Saturday? Uh sure. And then I went and played EvoCraft Sunday, and the sound that it was getting was insane. I love it. The noise and record me on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:18

It's like air just missing the ball.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:25

Throw the club caption would just say squelch because she would have hit the muddy ground. Dude, uh, I had one, I had one shot at uh Silver Lake that I like think like I get like wet dreams about this shot. I had a I had a decent drive, but I ended up under the canopy of a pine tree, or of a maple tree rather. And I was like, I don't know how to get out of this low, so I'm just gonna I'm gonna clue I so I I hit a middle iron because I was like, alright, it'll keep it low, I guess. And just kept my hands like way out in front, so I'd like to close up the club place more and lower the loft. And I was like, all right, just swing and pray, I guess. And I just fucking perfect, like got out of there. The sound it made, it was it got out of there clean, and it was like a six-foot putt. And I was just like, fucking, I can't putt with my dick this hard, dude. Like, this is the shit, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:19

I totally meant that I'm gonna do that every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:21

They're like the next you just think she then I go to the range and I can't swing my seven iron at all. I'm like topping the ball in front of a 12-year-old. I'm like, fuck.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:30

It is a weird game.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:31

Are you gonna have women's clothing?

SPEAKER_05 1:40:33

We do have some. Um, we'll probably come out with some. It's just hard because we do have some right now, but the majority of our audience is male, you know? And like a lot of chicks that do buy our stuff, they use like our t-shirts and hoodies are unisex, but we do have like some like crop long sleeves, and I think we're gonna come out with some like women's cut like t-shirts this.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:55

But what about for golfing?

SPEAKER_05 1:40:57

It's unisex.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:01

I hate the polos that like the like I just hate the polos I have to wear like.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:06

Yeah, well we're coming out with some like jackets that like men and women can wear. And we're coming out with more outdoor focused stuff right now, especially right now, with like the spring and summer or the spring coming up. Um like a couple jackets that you can wear, like a cool golf like hoodie that's like more performance space and like a little like nicer than like your regular hoodie. Um But that's the thing with polos though too, like even like we were we've been trying to source and manufacture polos, and it's just it's hard to compete with like the big brands that like have like the really nice performance material, and we're like I don't even think we we might not even come out with a poll this year. Maybe like midsummer, but it's like we can't really do anything better than they are, and we're trying to keep the price point pretty like competitive and fair to people. So like we're reaching out to golf shops and doing collaborations with them. It's like, why would somebody buy a screw pole if they don't really know what it is over Nike or whatever other brand they have, I think.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:05

Especially if there's some kind of like ego attached to the brand, like oh you got a you got a Hogan sweater. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:12

So we're like more focusing on like we have some cool hats in the works right now, um, with a pretty cool design that I'm stoked on, and uh a jacket, like a hoodie that we're dropping. That's like and it's funny to think, like, I was surprised that like these big brands are coming out with like hoodies that people golf in, and a lot of brands and even like professionals were like wear hoodies. It's weird the shift that's happened like the last like four years, it's become more relaxed and just like streetwear is kind of blended with like the golf industry. Yeah, so we're leaning into that.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:44

I think it's gotta be because of the the the growth of YouTube golf. Like I it's it's because those those things happening are pretty much on parallel timelines, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:52

Yeah, it's it's I think a lot of people have gotten in, and I think it was like a COVID thing, you know, people were just had to be at like those outdoors, like the ski industry and golf industry exploded. I forget the metric, but it was like insane. They're the they're that and mountain bike mountain biking are like the perfect sports for social distancing, yeah, you know, and like people just needed to get introduced to it, and they're kind of expensive things, and like everybody was getting stimulus checks, so people had money to spend, you know. So it was like this like perfect storm for that. Yeah, so there's been this weird just like shift in it that a lot more people have gotten into it, and there's been brands that have kind of hopped on it that weren't in the golf space before or barstool being like the biggest one, yeah. They're it's insane.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:35

Barcy, good, good. Yeah, well, they're gonna be when uh COVID happened, I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:40

Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:43:41

Yeah, but those well, those guys are specifically on golf. Like we're talking you saying companies that were not golf companies, like made the shift when they saw like this is starting to have our audience or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:52

Yeah, or even started, you know. I'm there's clothing brands out there that have come up in the last like five years because it's like cool and hip now.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:00

Yeah, like bet like bad, birdie, and good, good or like the two big ones that came out of fucking nowhere. Like, I I remember going to dig Under Armour? Well, Under Armour's been around golf now.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:10

Yeah, they pretty yeah, pretty much been in golf, but they've been around forever. Well, they left it and then they kind of came back slowly, didn't they? Well they like stopped sponsoring. Well, they stopped they stopped making gear. They they always made it. They stopped making clubs and I wish they still made the balls though.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:30

That Nike's square club is like one of the most pure drivers on earth. I remember. I can't find a left-handed one. Like I found one that was left-handed that was beat to shit and they wanted like 400 bucks. I was like, get fucked. I can get a brand new fucking Rogue ST for 400 bucks.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:45

Yeah, but you can hit that way further than your than the Sasquatch. That's what it's called.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:50

I can hit my Rogue ST. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. The technology is way too much. Dude, I broke 300 yards last weekend for the first time.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:58

So do you guys golf a lot?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:59

I do.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:01

They used to.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:01

Last year I'm trying to get him to last year I went last year I went like 25 times. Oh nice. Yeah. But that was the first year.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:10

End of the season, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:12

Yeah, I started in like August and just like got obsessed. And I was like, this is everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:16

Did you have clubs or did you go out and buy stuff?

SPEAKER_02 1:45:18

I I had clubs that were like so soft, they were like senior flex. And once I started getting good, I was like, I this sucks. I'm like I'm I can feel that I'm like timing my swings to how fucking like whippy these are. So I bought a set of Hogan clubs, and the irons are really good, but the driver was like almost a senior flex, and I was like, okay, and so you really just need new clubs, though. Yeah, I'll get it. She does not need new clubs. I'll I'll get new clubs eventually, but the these are fine for now.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:52

Like I got like fitted within two years.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:55

Where do you guys golf at? Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:56

Wherever. Oak Oakwood? A lot of time, no uh White Lake. White Lake Oak.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:04

White Lake Oaks or Silver Lake. There's like five in Waterford, so it's like we're super spawned.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:12

The one by the lake that we did too.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:15

The one in commerce? Okay, I don't remember the name of that one. But that one that one's actually really fun. I wish we remembered that name. That one's fucking killer.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:25

Pontiac, but there's just in Waterford. There's Silver Lake, there's Pontiac.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:29

We used to go like Pontiac when we were in high school, and then Silver.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:34

What is the one that we go to? The the that's the county one? White Lake Oaks. White Lake Oaks, which is Waterford still, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:46:41

You guys like use golf now and like find deals? Golf Now? What is that? Yeah, it's like the app where it's just like get on there and see what T like. I do that and then I go to the website.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:52

And then book the T time, so I don't have to get the X to find.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:55

It tells you like it they'll like do like little deals on like T times if the golf course is like slow.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:59

Oh, is it like it's like group on or something? But like for golf? Yeah, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:03

Okay. Yeah, yeah. And it like gives a good opportunity to just go try new golf courses. Like, oh, this one's a good thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:07

Because it shows you what's open locally instead of you going, oh, what is this course or what is this course or what is this course?

SPEAKER_02 1:47:13

It's pretty okay. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah, that is annoying because like there's been a handful of times where we're trying to find somewhere to golf and then we're like googling it, and like we're like going to their like 1990s fucking terrible websites.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:24

You're like, We'll get you that app.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:26

And then you call and they well, how could is it a requirement to be an asshole to work at a golf course like on the phone? Every single time I call one of them, they're like, What do you want? I'm like a tea time, like when? I don't know, nine o'clock. We don't do nine o'clock. You want 9 03 or 9 12? I'm like, I don't give a fuck, dude. Just give you away. Yeah, just fire this guy. I don't want to cover him. Get the fuck out of here. The guy that works at Silver Lake is a dick every time. Maybe.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:54

Okay, Silver Lake. If you want to keep going, then that's the one exception because that place is a shithole.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:59

Do you remember they came? Were you was it with you they fucking came and took our cart away in the middle of the round? Why? Because they were like, oh, this is a propane one, you have to give it back right now. We were like, what? I do. I'm like, what the fuck? It was a propane.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:13

Yeah, we had the propane one and then they had to swap it off for the gas one. What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:17

Yeah, I it was the weirdest shit. I we're like, what the fuck is happening right now? Did we do something wrong?

SPEAKER_10 1:48:23

They're like, well, no, you just We just gave you the wrong cart. We were like No, that was I think at Farmington.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:29

I never played in Farmington.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:30

Or no, that was It was definitely Silver Lake. Or Washington. It was the one I think you worked at.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:34

It was the one that was definitely Silver Lake.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:36

Or was it Silver Lake?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:37

It was definitely Silver Lake. Hey, uh I don't say a lot of things with 100% certainty, unlike you. It was Silver Lake. Mike Moe was not drunk, Chris Cole was not there, and it was absolutely Silver Lake.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:49

I'm calling bullshit. Because go watch Mike Moe or uh Mike Taylor's uh podcast.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:55

It's probably deleted since Mikey Taylor's a fucking governor now or something.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:59

Mikey Taylor was talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:05

Run bottles had to get some product on the website. We do need a little like other faces on our website.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:12

We're working on just go down to the street and go, hey, you!

SPEAKER_05 1:49:16

I should, yeah. Put this on. We're busy, but yes. It's like I was trying to get stuff out for St. Patty's Day. I'm like, all right, we gotta do this now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:26

We gotta go. I feel like these are clothes that I would wear. So go up to the shop.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:30

Yeah, she does drink a 16-year-old skateboarder.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:33

Most of the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:34

A lot of women wear rocker stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:36

Like, I'm starting to steal her shirts now because I'm like, we're the same size now.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:41

We're not a waves. They buy our woman's stuff too, it's like it just doesn't really hasn't really sold over the past. Yeah. It's been a good thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:51

I'm I was just curious more for growthing stuff. You know?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:55

Can you see in your met like you're still doing all the social media stuff? Can you see in your metrics like what Your audiences.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:00

It's the majority. All men. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:03

Same.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:04

It's all dudes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:06

It's like I have a podcast I talk about comedy or like rock and roll and fucking skateboarding, and it's like 98% men all from the United States or the UK. Sick. Perfect.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:21

It is. But like women do buy our gear. I would like baggie or stuff now too. So it's like, you know, I guess come by. I'm telling you. Thursday's a great day to come back.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:30

I'm trying to get into the baggie jeans, but I can't.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:33

It's like the baggie snowboard pants. This is weird. It's gotten super baggy. I can't see these.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:39

Like I had like a little baggie in mind.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:41

No, these kids are just like, it's like they're wearing like parachute pants. Yes. It's insane. It is interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:48

So funny.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:48

It is interesting. It needs to go back to the phone.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:51

I never thought the 2000s would come back. Have you been seeing these fucking like the running shoes? Like they brought back the ugly fucking balances. The ugly ass running shoes are back with like the mesh, the mesh panels. Like you remember the Nikes back in the used to have like fucking 45 different little mesh panels all there with.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:10

Whole foot's wet. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:12

They're back and they're ugly as fuck. I'm like, who is buying these? And then like every chick that's like in coals or wherever we were the other day was like, I was like, ugh. What? You look like those are running shoes my dad would wear with jeans back in the day. Like, this is terrible.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:27

I did buy those LeBron Nike shoes that are like uh Yeezys though. They are like Yeezys? Yeah, they're like fabric-y, weird on the top section of it. It's weird. I don't think I've seen that. And it's like a glove. It's really weird.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:40

It's like a glove. It fits well. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_10 1:51:43

It's very tight.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:44

I don't know. When I was teaching high school, they were all wearing trainers. New balances and jorts like jorts were coming back. Like not cute jorts, like dad jorts.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:53

It is weird, like this style, like fashion. It's like 90s, 2000s, like it's gonna come back.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:59

Huh? Remember zip-away shorts? Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:02

Oh yeah. Fuck a pair of those on the playground, dude. You feel that too hot at recess and feel that zip them off and the cover goes.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:11

One of the techs at my work wears those. Really? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:15

You know what he doesn't do? Get pussy. The guy's not getting laid at all ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:28

No, I didn't mean it like that. That's not the face I meant.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:31

You're like, I don't know, dude, Josh be fucking.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:33

No, that's not the face I meant. I meant I don't want to think about that as the face I was meaning. He takes them off so he doesn't access the genos so he can just clean it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:42

He takes them off so he doesn't rug burn his knees on this on the zipper when he's fucking plowing some chicken.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:48

Oh my god. I don't want to think about my employees like that.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:53

Or the snap away pants. Oh yeah. Do you still make those for basketball? Of course, yeah. I haven't seen those, but I haven't seen it. I had a pair of those. Those were those are so cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:03

Just let me get ready. And they never would do what you thought they were gonna do.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:09

You can put all your own hips forward, and you're just like, oh fuck, and then knock them off.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:13

When I was in high school, we had to make a video in our econ class, and it was like talking about how the economy works and stuff. And in one of the scenes, we were pretending to be strippers standing on a table. Of course. I had I mean, of course, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:29

It's my wife, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:31

I had the button-up pants, like the button-down pants on, and I like rip them off. And this is what we turned into our teeth, like to our as an assignment. I mean, I had shorts on. It was a woman, but maybe, but she asked to keep it. She was like, Can I keep this as an example for like the years to come? And we were like, it must be really good. Yeah. And it was a remix.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:53

This sounds problematic.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:54

It was a remix to Shaggy uh wasn't me. Yeah, it wasn't me. We called it poor me. It was it was a good video. She's now I gotta tell teacher to you. She's flicking her bean at you, ripping your hands. She still teaches there. I wonder if she still uses it as a oh she uses it.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:15

It's not for that example.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:17

I had pants on under the pants. Like they were all they were throwing money at it. They were throwing money. What the fuck? And we were talking about smoking weed and all this stuff in the video. She wanted to be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:32

This all of this seems like grooming.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:35

Maybe.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:36

That's kind of all it was back then.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:37

Can I keep this?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:39

Can I keep this video of you ripping your fucking pants off, dude? Ugh.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:44

It's a good video. Sure. Pass the class.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:47

I gotta tell you. When we first started dating, you pulled out all of these DVDs of all of these, all of these projects you did in high school and in college, and you're like, they're so funny. They're so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:01

You think I actually meant that they were pretty good?

SPEAKER_02 1:55:04

They're not.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:05

I did show him that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:06

He just doesn't remember. They're fucking terrible. They are terrible. Well, yeah. She did like an episode of parental uh ad what is that show? Parental control in Spanish. In broken ass Spanish. I don't speak Spanish. I know that shit was too broken to be understood. It was awful. Oh my god. I was like smiling like that. These are so good just because I was like, I'm trying to ban.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:28

You know what? Terrible. I had to make a music video for that class, and it won first place in a competition in the state of Michigan.

SPEAKER_10 1:55:35

So was it with that one teacher?

SPEAKER_00 1:55:37

No, it was a different teacher. And he was not the judge. Just checking someone in the state of Michigan for my video stuff.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:44

The school must have got a grant for like video cameras because all your projects were just DVD. We had to do like PowerPoints.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:52

All that money up there.

SPEAKER_10 1:55:53

PowerPoints and the little floppy discs. The USB. No, we did not have USBs back then. USBs are floppy discs. You guys are just floppy discs. Yeah, USB got a display.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:07

And in high school, we did not use any floppy disks in high school. I didn't know fucking win.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:13

We went to that USB in like junior, senior. Incorrect. I graduated in 2010. Floppy disk. The iPhone existed. Floppy disk, no. I had an iTouch. Well, it existed. The technology. Yeah, the iPod one. That was when we had the US iPhone. That was like my junior.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:34

On the iPhone one came out in 07.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:37

Yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:39

Floppy discs. This is a bit you're sticking to.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:42

Full of shit, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:43

I think we had floppy their schools stole all your school's money. We went to the same school.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:48

I went to Waterford on all the videos. You know what's funny?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:56

On average, there's so much more money in Waterford than in Lake Orion. Lake Orion is a bunch of people living around a dirty lake pretending they have money. They all live in shacks.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:06

Not anymore though. Except for like half those houses. There's like built up now.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:10

There's like 200 houses in Lake Orion that are nice. The rest of them are like 800 square foot shacks.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:15

That's because it used to be a vacation town. So they're all like they were cottages.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:19

Living is a vacation. It says it on their sign.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:22

That's what it says.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:24

I do like Lake Orion. I'm just Jimmy Hoffa lived out in Lake Orion.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:28

Yeah, Jimmy.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:29

Jimmy Hoffa had a cabin in Lake Orion. Where is he? Is he in? Did you say where is he buried?

SPEAKER_00 1:57:36

Oh, he's probably in the room. I don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:38

You don't know who Jimmy Hoffa is? No.

unknown 1:57:40

What?

SPEAKER_05 1:57:41

Teamsters used to the mobile.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:43

He was the head of the Teamsters.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:46

She's too young. But he's supposedly buried under the Silver Dome.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:50

Oh. Or somewhere. I I heard it's a Renaissance, but I heard also there's a farm.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:56

Yeah, dude, it's all Malarkey. No one knows.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:58

He's probably in Michigan somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:00

Maybe in 20 years there'll be a Netflix documentary revealing, just like they did with fucking Tupac and Biggie.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:07

Biggie's, I mean Tupac's. Well, Biggie's definitely dead.

SPEAKER_10 1:58:10

Tupac's. I'm just kidding. Tupac's.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:13

Michael Jackson's still alive, too. He lives in Canada. You're making glaze over. He was spotted in Canada. You're making my eyeballs fit. No, that was Epstein. No, this was Michael Jackson a long time ago. Different pedophile. He's not actually a pedophile, though. Michael Jackson. Yeah, Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:33

No, there is a story of uh you're not a 50-year-old man hanging out with fucking little kids in your bed and you're not fucking them.

unknown 1:58:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:41

Zero. Is that what you would be doing? I don't invite children into my bed. They come. Oh, they go. They come on a cona card. I don't have to invite them. Dude, that motherfucker. That sounds way worse. If I had a fucking billion dollars and I had some controversial things happen, you think I wouldn't make it go away with money? Maybe you should have produced it. Look at P. Diddy though. Macaulay Culkin has been in one movie, has a mansion. You know what I mean? I'm just saying, like, I don't know what happened there. He was in like two homeowns.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:20

He was in a lot more than that.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:21

He was in two movies 35 years ago, and he still has a mansion.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:26

And he's married to Brenda Songs. Yeah, London Tipton. That is, oh.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:31

Her father owns a bunch of hotel chains.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:33

It's a Prindle. It's the Prindle, guys. The what? You know, Prindle? Prindle. I work in cars. What are you saying to me right now? Prendle? Prindle. The park reverse neutral drive. It's in the sweet life of Zag and Cody.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:52

I she's like the bimbo and she's learned how to drive. She's like it's called the Prindle Park.

SPEAKER_10 1:59:57

Instead of the Yership.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:59

I was like, is this the brand of the hotels? I didn't know what you guys were talking about. It's like the set like you ever hear someone say the 710 cap? Yep. What's I can't get my 7-10 cap off. Oil.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:15

A lot of times they're like, I got a wire dripping by my right tire. I'm like, yeah, that's from your AC condenser, dumbass.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:22

Dude, my replacement. Dude, my my stepsister called my dad one time. She goes, Hey, I don't know anything about cars. Can you help me? And he's like, uh maybe. I don't know. Like, what's going on? And she's like, I have air on the top of my tire, but not on the bottom of the tire. And he's like, Are you fucking serious right now? Is this a real question? Are you fucking with me? And she's like, What? She's like, Why is in their air all the way around? He's like, Are you fucking serious right now? This is there's no way this is serious.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:50

I've never heard of that before.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:51

Dude, we were dying. We could not.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:54

She's so my sister was like asking why, because she blew up the oil or the motor in the Jeep because she didn't know she had to change oil. And she drove past oil change places for like a year. She did not know she had to change oil. Oh, it came on. She didn't know she had to change it. It went. She's like, I mean, she's a good one. Remember the white jeep. The white jeep when she was in college. No, this is when she was in college.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:20

I mean, she's a kid though. Like she's 18, 19. She's just that blonde. She didn't know.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:25

Did you ever buy a used car asking how many honks are left in it?

SPEAKER_10 2:01:29

You know, there is a like there's a thing about how many starts are in your starter though. From your start stop technology stuff now. You know how the cars are well start-stop? Yeah. You have so many starts left in those starters, so you don't want to use them up. I'm being dead serious. I don't have a my van doesn't do that.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:47

I don't, not my problem. My truck does do that and I hate it.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:50

I sh I sh I shut it off every time you're gonna do it. It doesn't in the winter. It should be like freezing your ass off driving to work at fucking when it's 10 degrees outside. It blows cold air when it shuts off.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:04

Everything off. And then as soon as you lift your brake pedal, it turns everything back on. So you don't get emissions out of your gas pipe.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:12

Dude, the the the death thing is fucking insane. Forcing people to buy diesel exhaust fluid, and then like your car will only go a certain mile per hour if you don't have if you run out of that fluid. Like my buddy's got a brand new delete. My buddy's got a brand new diesel truck. And if he runs out of death for a certain amount of miles he he can go up to this fast, 55. And then for another certain amount of miles after that, he can only go 35. And then after that, it's like he's locked at 25 miles an hour, like his truck goes into a fake limp mode because he has to go get more diesel exhaust fluid.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:51

That doesn't even sound fun. I'll be honest, guys. I don't really don't know that much about cars. Me either.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:58

I just I'm just I I just play one on TV. I just fix him for a living. I hope you know diesel. I hope you know more than fucking me, dude. I just I just know enough to be able to watch Top Gear. Diesels are stupid.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:13

My brothers love that show. I never got into it.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:15

Like the original Top Gear. Those guys are funny. I'll say the British version or the American version. It's gotta be the British.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:22

The British dude. Yeah, it has to be the Clarkston!

SPEAKER_02 2:03:24

It's the British Dude. Evan, you idiot. Clarkston's got his farm. Jeremy Clarkston has Clarkston's farm. Dude, you just skip straight to the ending of every story, don't you? You're like fucking. He's gotta cut you off. You're like Quentin Tarantino. You're like, let me show you the ending real quick and then I'll then you can I'll finish the story.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:41

Well, if you did a little flashy thingy, like, um, what's the other guy?

SPEAKER_02 2:03:47

Sick. Uh so Jeremy, Jeremy Clarkston. You're what happened to me.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:55

Michael Bay. Huh? Michael Bay. I worked. I've been in the middle of the street.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:58

I didn't even realize that you were trying to move on. So have we.

SPEAKER_10 2:04:01

You had me drinking since when last night? I am tired.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:05

We were on the same. Dude, I forgot you were there. I was in the green room.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:10

I was in a green room. I didn't get to hang out with you guys.

SPEAKER_10 2:04:13

I came home. Until the April went to the city. And then I went there. And then I came home, went to sleep, then had to wake up in three hours. Yeah, I have been up since then. And I came home, started cooking food, and now I'm here.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:26

You guys ever been to the Eagles Club? Yes, Eagles members? No. You know what the Eagles Club is?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:32

Yeah, we used we used to go to the American Legion all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:04:36

I used to uh do soccer practice. I had one down in uh off Scott Lake Road in Waterford.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:42

We join, it's close to Bronck Ridley's. We join.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:45

It's like the Oh the one that's is it right across the street there? That's the VFW.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:50

It's like right like a half block up that way. Okay. When you talk about like Yield, it's like a secret little dive bar. You have to get like sponsored, you have to but we're like the youngest people there. And it's all like these older people, but beers are like 250. Yeah. They all have a pool table and a shuffleboard, and it's really never that busy. Fuck yeah. And it's just a bunch of older people. That's amazing. If you guys ever want to come, you got my number now, hit me up. Yeah, dude. You're at Mark Ridley's. We can bring in as guests. Yes, check it out. I will do that. I would love to up next one. Just to go to an Eagles. I might have a spot.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:19

We used to go to the American Legion all the time because it was open to public in Lake Orion. And like that was our spot. Like it was a mile from my duplex that I lived in, so we would like walk if we had to. But like we would get drunk for like seven dollars and just play darts or whatever. Like they had local bands, like or not local band, like they had live music, and like it was just always such a good time. Oh, it's great.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:44

Like you can go, like it's 40 bucks a year. Like you get sponsored, you had to do like the interview, which is like nothing, and then you're in, and then you just you get like a card, and you can go to any Eagles or like all across the United States. Like we go up Northco camping and you go to like the Eagles up there, you stop in for a couple booths. Oh, yeah. I want to be in the city. Yeah, dude, it's it's like this little secret. My brother met like this like 90-year-old guy, like karaoke, he's like, dude, you gotta come to the Eagles because they're trying to get like younger members in there, you know. This is awesome. And my brother's like, Can I bring my brother? Because he knows I love like dive bars, you know? And we went with Roger, and you know, like, dude, we gotta join this. Like, this is this is awesome. I'm like, how much isn't? They're like 40 bucks. And I'm like, dude, 40 bucks a month? That's not that bad. Because like, I don't know, it's like you don't know where drinks are expensive. I'm like, 250 beers for 40. No, they're like 40 a year. I'm like, dude, I'm joining this like instantly.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:36

I'm gonna pay 10 years out of the advance. I'm like, this is awesome. Like, nobody's ever playing pool. I can come here all the time and get like a pitcher of beer for like$10. Right, right. Sign me up.

SPEAKER_10 2:06:47

Can't do that at Sharks Club.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:48

No, no, you can't.

SPEAKER_10 2:06:49

I I got you wait like two, three hours ago.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:52

I got French, dude. I went there today because we signed our lease, so I was waiting for the realtor to get there. I got a French onion soup and a Bud Light, and it was$17.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:02

Dude, yeah. We I we went to the Eagles, like when we first signed up. Like my brother and I did it, and like my girlfriend, like we've signed up probably eight, ten people, whatever. So you guys want to get sponsored? Let me know. We get sponsored. Yes. Next Wednesday, we'll meet you down.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:16

Yeah, if I have a spot down, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:18

I'm hitting you up next Wednesday if I have a spot.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:20

But like we're there, we get in, you know, and I was like, there's like eight people in the bar, and I'm like, somebody said something about shots. Like, oh, I'll buy a round of shots, you know. And I was like, What do you want? He's like, Oh, Buffalo Trace. I'm like, Oh shit, like I gotta buy like eight people Buffalo Trace. I bought like eight shots. What is that? Just a nicer, like whiskey. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:37

It's the oldest distillery in America.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:39

Yeah, it's not like super expensive, but it's just like nicer than you know. I'm like, all right, whatever. Bought like eight shots. It was like$24.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:46

It's usually like, I don't know, eight ten dollars at like a bar. Yeah, eight bucks a piece. Yeah, I'm like, dude, are you kidding me? I'll buy rounds of shots. Yeah, can I just have the bottle?

SPEAKER_02 2:07:56

What's the bottle cost? Fucking seven dollars? Yeah, it's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:59

It's a little like you guys hit me up. You're oh yeah. Dude, I'm talking away. It's like a half block from our that's where we because I live like 11 in Washington now. Okay, and now like the Eagles is just like closer than Yield. So like my girlfriend and I will just walk there and it's cheaper. It's the spot. Nobody's like hardly ever there. Dude, one time I was a 50-set pool.

SPEAKER_00 2:08:20

I was at the uh American Legion. You weren't there for some reason. I don't know. Right after he got on probation, but someone like some guy got mad, and there was I was sitting like at a bar that had a or a table that had like a pole in the middle, like a wooden pole, and this guy just walked up right next to my face and like punched the wooden pole. And I was like, wait till you see how big my convict boyfriend is.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:45

Yeah, because I'm hey, can I go fight somebody at the bar?

SPEAKER_02 2:08:49

Yeah, hey, hey, your son just fucking pulled a jersey over a guy's head. I can't go beat up a goon at the fucking Legion. I was gonna, if you didn't include that, I was gonna ask you if you remembered what you said. Because I was like, oh convict. It was like when we first started dating too. I was pissed. I was like, of course, like the one night I'm not there, something happens. Which it probably wouldn't have happened if I was there.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:18

So it was like right, I like felt the wind on it too.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:22

Yeah, that's fucking because it dumbass. So ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:24

I don't even remember what it was.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:26

Pretty chill of the Eagles.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:27

It's uh it normally is at the Legion too, that's why we loved it, you know. But we tried to we tried to go back and uh we uh we we went out to dinner down in Lake Orion somewhere, and then we went we walked to the Legion to like for like old time's sake, because we hadn't lived there in like three years. And we walked in and she's like, uh you guys members? And we're like, no. I wasn't free for you guys anymore. Yeah, and she's like, No, we're not we don't do that anymore.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:53

I'm not losing my liquor license over you guys. And we were like, okay, chill out.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:57

Yeah, she like she got sassy like immediately. We're like, oh no, we just we used to come here, and she's like, Yeah, and I'm not losing my license over this. We're like, damn, dude, all right.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:06

Like they literally used to like leave me and my friends in the bar by ourselves so that just whoever was working could because it was only one of them, would just like go smoke for a while and they just leave us all like watch the bar. Yeah, we're gonna we got this.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:22

How much is it for Bud Lights in the can? Or 80 cents? Oh man, dude, fuck yeah. Well, dude, thank you for coming out. Dude, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:33

Yeah, thanks for reaching out. I didn't even know if like I realized I looked at my calendar like, I don't know, whenever I emailed you. I was like, oh, that was supposed to be like Wednesday. I go, they haven't really said anything. I'm like, yeah, I gotta email you.

SPEAKER_00 2:10:45

I'm glad you made sure you're I'm the one that usually reaches out, but it's I only have access to the Facebook, so I was like, hey, you gotta Well you email me like a couple months ago, whenever it was.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:56

It's so it yeah, it depends. Like uh depend you know, I thought some people are harder to get in contact with, like obviously, like if it's a like big bands, it's like you have to like email a manager or whatever, like and then with you, I probably just found like you had a contact on yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:14

So I think you yeah, yeah. So that must be in so it goes by CM. That's all I need. Yeah, but I'm glad I did, dude. I fucking I love this conversation. It's really fun. Thanks for having me, dude.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:25

You guys gotta come by the shop. We we're coming, yeah. Fuck yeah. I don't know about this. What do we have now?

SPEAKER_05 2:11:30

Well, it goes every Thursday, but Thursday, Friday, Saturday were open. I'll plug the hours Thursday, four to nine, Friday, noon to seven, Saturday, eleven to two.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:38

Right on.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:39

Yeah, yeah, dude. Your boards were pretty cool looking though.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:42

The giggler. Yeah, our snowboard. Yeah, basic, but it's so cool. Yeah, I want to keep it simple. Yeah, it's fun. It was it was sweet that we came up with a snowboard. It was made in Michigan, so that was like cool. I can be made in Michigan.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:57

Yeah, that'll be dope. Yeah, I'm gonna have to get one.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:35

But it's gotta be your thing. I do it at work. Every time someone's like, yeah, good times. I'm like noodle salad. Like, stop. We're not listening to it. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:43

Subliminally like planning it, saying it to their phone so it pops up on their like Instagram and TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:48

Dude, family, family guy used to have a bit about this where we used to be like, 1950s movies used to have propaganda in them, and it'd be like some like clip, and then he'd just be like, smoke. I'm gonna start doing that.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:03

Listen to it. Listen to it. But fuck yeah. All right, we gotta wrap up. Cool. All right. All right, peace. Peace. Thank you. Bye.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:11

Ultimate purpose is not survival, it's it's finding purpose in what you love.

SPEAKER_11 2:13:20

To be branching out and being like, hey, we're gonna sit down and have a couple hour podcast.

SPEAKER_09 2:13:27

Is it dope? Jesus talked for five minutes and like is it dope? I've always been inspired by this shit.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:44

Disgusting.