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In this special edition of the Meehan Mission Podcast, Cathy is joined by Dr. Melanie Crites-Bachert and filmmaker Mark Sutherland for an in-depth conversation about their upcoming documentary project through Remnant Films.

Together, they discuss the origins and growth of transgender ideology, the role of medicine, social media, schools, and culture, and why they believe faith and family are essential in navigating today's challenges. The conversation explores the documentary's mission, the stories and experts involved, and the team's commitment to creating educational resources for parents, churches, and communities.

Topics discussed include:

• The inspiration behind the documentary
• The role of faith in confronting difficult cultural issues
• Social media and its impact on children
• The changing landscape of medicine and education
• The importance of parental involvement
• Mental health and support resources
• The future vision for Image Unshaken and its educational initiatives

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SPEAKER_02

The world of transgenderism is dark and secretive. And today, people are introducing confusion and doubt into the identity of our children. We have to understand that even since the time of the garden, Satan came to introduce doubt and confusion to Eve. So the playbook has never changed, but we've got to do something to stop it. And how do we stop this doubt and confusion? Well, number one, we create awareness. And that's exactly what my guests have done. We are joined by Dr. Melanie Bockard Kreitz and Mark Sutherland. And together, their team at Imageunshaken.com has created the resources for children's education and to help parents on this journey. But not only that, they are working on a documentary to really create the awareness of the darkness and the secretiveness behind transgenderism. What we need to do is take that awareness so that we can have prevention and also resolution and solutions. So please, let's welcome Melanie and Mark to the Meehan Mission Podcast. Hello, everyone, and welcome to this special edition of the Meehan Mission Podcast. Today I am joined by two very special guests. I have Dr. Melanie Bachert Kreitz and also Mark Sutherland. And I'm just going to tell everybody in our community that this is an impromptu surprise podcast because Melanie happens to be in town with Mark, and they are doing some incredible work. Specifically, they are working on a documentary. And who better to talk about this? I'm going to let Melanie start with how in the world did we get to where we are and what are y'all up to?

SPEAKER_01

Well, thanks so much. So actually, what we're up to is I'm a urologist and pelvic reconstructive surgeon, as you know. And we decided to embark on the filming of a documentary because I had an idea and I pitched it to Mark, uh, who is known uh in his own right for his film production. Um, and he thought that it was a great idea. So we found a director who also has great things to his credit, and we all joined forces and we prayed about it and we turned it over to God and said, This is your story to tell. And so what we're doing is exploring transgender ideology from the origins of spirituality uh throughout time and its progression throughout time to get us to the point that we are at now and where we are going to go if we do not write this shit. And of course, as you and I have spoken previously, because I'm a urologist and a public reconstructive surgeon, I have uh a unique uh take on all of this because I can reconstruct the entire pelvis. And so from a medical standpoint, very few of us have that expertise to be able to speak to such things. So I can add the medical advisory portion of all of it where Mark and our director, Andrew Mullinax, um, have their creative, their creative side that they can make it come come to life. And so we joined forces. We started a production company called Remnant Films, and Remnant Films will be handling the documentary and all of the other little spin-offs, and I shouldn't say little, but all of the other spin-offs that will be forthcoming as a result of the amazing people that we've been able to interview for this particular documentary.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I have to tell you that the way God works and puts people together and um circles around, and for you to come back around this way, and then now to bring Mark and just how we can all come together as a community, because the one thing that I want to point out is this is a very, very controversial topic. Yes, that you guys have, I'm I would say chosen, but I also believe that it was God led.

SPEAKER_01

That's correct.

SPEAKER_02

And um, I just pray for protection over you and your whole crew while you are doing this. And I ask that our community pray for protection over you all too. Um are you um are you scared? Or does that motivate you?

SPEAKER_01

No, I am not scared because I know who I am in Christ.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And good answer. I want to put that out there. I am I am not afraid of powers and principalities because he that is in me is greater than he who is in the world and trying to sidetrack all of this. So, no, I'm not afraid. Nobody on our team is afraid. We are an all-Christian, devout Christian. We are not just Christian in name. We we walk the walk. And we have had, we've had to um clean a room when we've walked in. Uh we've had to pray demons away in real time. Um, we've we've had targets and threats, but the safest place that you can be is right in the middle of where God puts you. Um, if he puts you there, he will he will protect you. And I've said it before, and my my mother hates to hear me say this, but uh it is the truth of the matter.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That what is what's the biggest punishment that I can get? They end my life, you know, my life has ended. Oh, gee, there's a punishment because at least I get to hug my daddy and I get to see Jesus.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. Well, I I appreciate that. And I kind of find that people in our community, we're already disruptors and we already know that we're against, you know, uh the evil forces of this world, and that sometimes I feel like that just motivates us more. Yes, a little bit more. Well, Mark, let's bring you into the conversation. Thank you. Tell me, so how'd you guys meet? And what is your role with the documentary?

SPEAKER_00

Kathy, lovely to be here, and thank you so much for inviting us to to be in this podcast. As you can tell from my accent, I am not around these parts at all.

SPEAKER_05

No, it's from East Texas. East Texas, okay, East Texas.

SPEAKER_00

As could be. I'll try double.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm from I'm from the UK. Um, and you are just asked an important question. Do I fear no? No. It's not the first time I've engaged in maybe what's called controversy on on one level. I don't mean that in a bigoted way, not at all, because like many, we're aware there has been a cost. Um, so how do we meet? We met through a mutual contact, had a meeting, then Mark uh very kindly, could you come out? Could we make begin to make this happen? Yes. Um, we have done. I have a number of friends over here, and I have a number of contacts over here. Um so we have so far we've interviewed about 24 people. We've got more interviews, a few more to do on this side of the pond, and then we're gonna be uh interviewing people in the UK. There is also we have interviewed someone from Canada, that maybe there is more people to move interview from Canada. We've put someone from New Zealand on Canada, on sorry, on camera from New Zealand. So the reason I'm saying that is how this is expanding. You've alluded to this. This is um this is a worldwide issue. And to back up what Melanie has said, what you've said, this is this is the biggest spiritual battle of our lifetime, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

I don't take that for granted. There's an interesting, very interesting discussion to have or where we are at the in the eschatological time clock in regards to if people want to discuss the end of days. Yes. Um and on one sense, this subject when you go back in history is nothing new. We think about it, we look at the Bible, it talks about eunuchs, why all of this of this history unfolding. Um so that's how I've got involved, privileged to do that, land here, we both pick up the phone and start making things happen. Um, we had, you know, big film shoot uh up uh in Indiana for argument's sake, then we're being down in Dallas. Interviewing all sorts of people, but they all connect.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And the other thing is is that I mean, I I've run out of conspiracy theories now.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But people need to bring new ones to us because we've proven the fact that they are all real. And I don't say that, I don't say that lightly.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And there are things that we are dealing with when people use the term mind control, MKUltra, yes, is real. But it's breaking it down to speak to people that have the receipts and to then say explain the history of this, not to just give a conspiratorial sort of overview for clickbait.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And the way that I, the way that we see this, and Melanie is in a supremely unique position because of what she does for a living. No one can take that away from her whatsoever, right? They can't, because she can speak with passion of professionalism and knowledge on all of this gained over many, many years. I'm not just saying that because I'm sitting next door to her, it's true. Yeah, so then that means that by speaking from that position, she then becomes a threat because it's like, well, you can't argue with me. And when we are, and and excuse me if it sounds a bit base, but when we are talking about the fact that body parts from young people are being removed, we have to talk in these terms. This is the reality of it, and the reality of it is that people are not informed whatsoever of what is actually going on. And I'll end with saying this statement, and I'll ask people to look up the history. I've said it a number of times, so has Melanie. There is no, in my own mind, this is personal opinion, there is no difference between what Mengele was doing in Outfitz and other concentration camps to young Jewish children, particularly at a propensity for twins, on them, all his experiments, all his disgusting experiments, than what we are now seeing in operating rooms in turning around saying it's perfectly acceptable to do double mastectomy on all the rest and and chuckle and and cut off male body parts. When we say it like this, then suddenly people start to wake up and go, Hold on a minute, what are you saying here? And I'm not saying that to be offensive, I'm saying that to get people to sit up and draw attention to what's going on. Um, and the only time, the only way you can do that is just explaining it how it is. Melanie can do that more than myself in regard to just describing the surgeries that go on. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um, so in particular, Melanie, because of your ex your experience of um interviewing, you know, people that have gone through the transgender surgeries and everything, is there any like particular instance that you recall or that you really want people to understand in the general public that is really kind of going on? Um, just really to wake up people. I mean, how how do we let this happen?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, so the documentary is specifically dealing with transgender ideology as it pertains to children, but also to individuals of all walks of life. And we chronicle its spiritual origins. And so, in answer to your question, the short answer is, you know, how did we get here? The short answer is, well, how far back do you want to go? Um, because we are we are exploring this literally from the spirituality aspect of the garden and chronologically moving throughout time with how things are have been put into play throughout the ages to get us to this point. Everything from secret societies to uh mind control to Nazi agendas and how that web all interweaves. And so what people can look for and try to be aware of is that nobody is immune to this ideology. It is it is literally analogous to cancer. We all know somebody or have personally experienced cancer. Transgender ideology is the same thing at this point in time. If you have not personally experienced it, then somebody in your family has, or somebody in your friend circle, or you know somebody involved that has been caught up in this ideology. And it is truly a spiritual battle. It is something that was put into motion in the garden, and Satan does not change his tactics. The original tactics were to put it into the minds, plant the seed in the mind of Eve to question God's perfect design. And that is exactly what the same spiritual agenda is at this point in time to question God's perfect design. And that's what we need to be aware of. That's why we need to build good spiritual foundations for our children, have those good spiritual foundations ourselves so that we have discernment. We can recognize those spirits. And to your question about was there, do I have something in mind? Yes, I do have something in mind, particularly one of the interviews that we conducted with a detransitioner. We saw the manifestations of mind control and triggering in real time. Um, we saw the manifestations of demons in real time. And it was something that we all recognized. Um, and the fact that we are all Christians and we are all devout and we have all battled that spiritual nature throughout our lives. And when I say uh us, our our team, so I will specifically say myself and Mark and our director, Andrew Mullinax, we are devout Christians and we walk the walk. We're not just social Christians. Um, so we could recognize the spiritual, that the grave spiritual battle that we had in the manifestations in real time, and we were able to pray right in that time. And the only thing that spiritual warfare responds to is the name and the blood of Jesus. Yes. And so, yes, we experienced that during filming um on more than one occasion, actually. So as Mark says, he's he's running out of conspiracies. I I call myself a theorist looking for a conspiracy to believe in, but this is this is stuff that most people will poo-poo and say, oh no, this is this is just conspiracy theory. No, we witnessed it in real time. And it is something that when you're in the middle of it, it's almost surreal as you're as you are experiencing it in real time.

SPEAKER_02

Well, which I think that's gonna be great with the documentary is that people can actually see it, it is a documentary, so they can actually experience what you have experienced. And I also want to go back on um talking about Satan really um invites confusion. Yes, he invites confusion. And I think that you know, a lot of these children or people that want to uh transition, they are confused.

SPEAKER_05

That is correct.

SPEAKER_02

And it is a mental confusion, but I also want to add that it's also environmental confusion because you think about all of the endocrine disruptors and the the plastics and the soy and the topics. And you know, the things that we inject into our children that's screwing up their immune system.

SPEAKER_01

DuPont survivor here. Yeah. So I I grew up, I grew up five miles from from DuPont in Les Virginia. What's in our water that is in the water?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the birth control in our waters. It's just, you know, we're being and and you know, I think that's Satan's plan. That's Satan's plan to attack us mentally and both physically. And I know that um do you see that some of these children are able to uh like what types of resources are there for them? I mean, I would think that would be lacking.

SPEAKER_01

It is severely lacking. Yeah. Um, you know, I think going back to what you and I were speaking about earlier, everybody's doing, you know, this victory dance over the detransition clinic being opened up by Texas Children's Hospital. And then Cleveland Clinic has jumped on the bandwagon and everybody's doing a victory lap over that. And when I say everybody, the people that have fought for these things, um, the problem is, and the elephant in the room that nobody wants to address is you can't just set up one of these clinics with execution 90 days from the settlement. You can't do that because as a clinician already involved in an organization and being an early member of an organization that helps to find care for detransitioners, we can't. Yeah. We can't find that care for detransitioners. So the resources are severely lacking. So, unless it is a well thought out, well planned out uh concept, you're not going to be able to execute it in 90 days and expect there to be good care because the clinicians that led these children, adolescents, and adults down this road to begin with don't know how to take care of them because it was experimental medicine with no protocol for treatment to begin with. There's certainly no protocol to try to backtrack. So you can't expect the same clinicians who led these individuals down this path to then take these individuals back up the path because there simply is no protocol. And these are the same clinicians that are leaving the patients high and dry when they say, I want to retransition back to my former self. So the elephant in the room is finding care for these individuals because it is just supremely difficult.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, well, it just, you know, I love to talk about the corruption in the Western medical community. And I see, you know, they were making dollars and insurance reimbursement while they're transitioning these children and they're making money. And then all of a sudden somebody says, Oh, well, you can't do that anymore. So light bulb, okay, well, let's make money detransitioning them. So, yeah, I mean, at a boy for changing your mind and trying to do the right thing, but you are so correct. It's like, do you have the resources? Do you have the knowledge? Are you just experimenting again? And I personally think you're probably just doing it for the dollars.

SPEAKER_00

Well, the other, the other thing with one of the uh people that we had the privilege to interview who who basically went through the surgery when he was 50, when he was a a young, a young uh threteens, you know, this whole aspect of gender dysphoria. Then at the age of 61, he gets radically saved by Jesus. Now he's 67 years of age. So he was then he had the surgery, then he's dressing as a woman. And uh in this conversation, in when I interviewed him, then he was turning around saying, I have other friends that wish to detransition, but they do not have the finance to do that. Right now, uh if you think he's 67 now, this happened when he Starting to be, I don't know, 9, 10, 11, 12. Then he has this surgery when he's 50 years of age, right? This has been a very long game. It's just, and I'll speak for myself, unless you then enter this arena, which is new for me, you may learn about this. And it has personally come home to you know my uh family, and which is shocking, and you just go, right, on my wife's side, and you just go, right, okay. And then you learn about someone being given transitioning drugs as a as a young man, and then going for full surgery, and you just think, I'm trying to get my head around this, right? Yeah, but then with the person that we interviewed, again, I just say if there is no money, they want to detransition. Then you are right, it comes to, and I've been educating. I thought I knew about your medical, your whole medical field, and then you're here, and then you are just learning, and it goes, it's about the insurance, it's about the money, yes, as follow the money, as someone else would greater than ours says, follow the money. So, right. So if you're gonna have transitioning surgery, uh, you now need to build in finance to detransition for this particular individual. And Melanie can speak more into this as I can. But if you're turning around the same, maybe after 10 years, they're starting to regret the decision that they have made. So, how do you then come back to who you are? Right? Your agenda hasn't changed. But how do you come back to who you are? And just to read just to reassure you, it's it's uh it's defined at a conception. Yes, it's defined at birth. Conception, birth, that's it. At birth, you're just checking. You see it with your own eyes. Yes, it's there. But it's all this conversation of it being fluid, you can choose and all the rest uh know, right? Yeah, so when Melanie uh when people say to her, you know, follow the science, and Melanie goes, Yes, I am following the science, the science says this. So just quickly to say that from an insurance point of view, you're building in one thing. Now it's like you have got to then build in finance for detransitioning. Why are you even going there in the first place? Why are you then not we've we've already had this discussion, we've had this discussion a number of times. When people tell them and say, when when we were growing up, say in the uh 70s, 80s, a lot of young girls end up they're tomboys. Yes, because culturally, if they're on a farm in America, yeah, they get they're gonna be encouraged to be involved in certain activities. That's a cultural thing. Where now if people are turning around saying, Well, uh, uh, you're a tomboy, you're dressing in man's clothes, that means you're not a girl. Uh what? I've never heard so much rubbish.

SPEAKER_02

It is it is rubbish.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So I'll say that. So you, I know both of you can culturally talk into that and speak into that. I won't name the company, but when a company who is extremely well known in the computer world, I'd leave it like that, turns round and within their health care, there is transitioning, there is money for transitioning, right? That is then applied to that insurance scheme, that health scheme. This is shocking to me because I I sit back and go, this particular company and who they are and all their history, which goes way back to the Second World War, and and before that, you'll then think, well, what else were you then?

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, so it's it's it's not so surprising when you when you follow that. And and I want to touch back on you know, young girls growing up because you know, I Jim and I had five five kids. Our oldest daughter, Allie, was tomboy extraordinaire. I mean, I remember her in third, fourth grade, dressing like a boy, playing all the sports, absolutely everything. And we just let her be a tomboy and all that. Now she's this blonde, bombshell, gorgeous, girly girl, did pageants and everything. But, you know, we didn't say, oh my gosh, she wants to be a boy. We better put her on some hormones. I mean, where did where did that come from? Where seriously, I mean, did your documentary? I mean, I'm sure you follow the the whole thing, but somewhere Allie's gonna be 34. So in you know, in the last 20-something years, I just feel like it's really attacked our children. Is it is it the school systems? I want to I want to think it's the schools.

SPEAKER_01

So we we do explore that, and we have an expert member on our team. Um her name is Marsha Metzger, and she has a website, parentsontelevel.com.

SPEAKER_05

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And she has been in the school systems for a number of years, um, teaching sex ed and abstinence. Her husband is a pastor, and that is exactly what she explores and how she equips parents. And that is what her website is all about, equipping parents and where this came from, because she has all of the receipts and is able to show the indoctrination where this ideology has infiltrated our school systems and school curricula has changed over the years unequivocally. And she has the the data and the school books and the textbooks from before and after. And they are the same books, but grossly different information. There, there are things that are added now that were never added before. And I'll do you one even better than that. I was going through some of my urology textbooks. And there's a textbook that I have that I stay current on because a new version, uh, a new edition comes out every three years or so. My older editions do not have anything about transgender medicine or gender-affirming care. The newer textbooks have two to three chapters in them about gender-affirming care. Now, this is from the standpoint of a surgeon and my surgical textbooks. It's not just sticking with children, it is infiltrating the medical system.

SPEAKER_02

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SPEAKER_01

So social media has been a horrendous influence of for the worst on this particular subject. And when COVID hit, it intensified because children, as we know, were isolated. They were doing everything online. School was done by uh by Zoom, classes were done by Zoom, children were isolated. The only place that they had to go was on social media to these um to these uh blogs and to these chat rooms. And what they're finding, because they're already at a critical time in life where they're going through puberty, starting through puberty, things are already confusing because who wasn't confused as you know, as a as an adolescent. I mean, again, God has a perfect design. We all had to go through it. We turned out just fine. Um, you know, and for the most part, children do turn out just fine. But we saw at a time during COVID where social media was really uh critical for kids. And what they're doing or what they were doing during the time was going to these blogs and to these chat rooms, and they're finding these predators and these individuals, like uh the one that comes to mind is his name is Jeffrey. And if you would go to his website and go to his blog, he's all done up in makeup, and he is telling the children, your parents don't love you. I love you, and I think you're beautiful. He's kind of like the old uh romper room speaking into the mirror. And I see Kate and I see Johnny and oh and so and children are listening to this, and that is nothing but predatory behavior on already vulnerable individuals, and they start, they started becoming influenced by this. And you it's widely available that you can find the charts that when social media hit its peak, we saw a gradual uptick in individuals identifying as something other than male or female. When social media hit its peak, that graph had almost a vertical spike.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

And that is of individuals identifying as something other than male or female. And then we saw it kind of waning a bit in 2023. But this became a horrendous epidemic. I saw it in the medical field during COVID. All of a sudden, this explosion in the medical community, and you have to understand, I was also in Portland, Oregon at the time. So no shout out to Portland, Oregon, um, because it is a hotbed of ideology and demonic influences. But I saw an explosion in the medical communities and the medical field during that time. And in fact, um, to that end, um if you go and look at the statistics of highest billing institutions and highest billing providers regarding transgender care, um, Portland, Oregon, a hospital system that I used to work for, or used to work as an independent provider. I didn't work for the institution, but I was an independent provider affiliated with the institution. Um one of the providers is in the top five, and the institution itself is in the top five of billing institutions for for this. So it social media has just been a profound influence on these children.

SPEAKER_00

If I can just talk into that as well. So you're talking about COVID. We see the the build-up before that. As part of our research, Melanie and I have been in a very well-known bookstore that we won't name. And I just encourage people to go, go in your local bookstore, start seeing what books are being read. Go in your public library. Go in your public library. We've been there too. Yeah, ask the school library. You've seen this, you've seen people go to your school boards. You saw one very famous one uh meme with wed viral when a woman dressed up as a cat and went to say, Look, I'm dressed up like this. Why is this when you've got children identifying as furries, you've got uh people, children identifying as cats, there's a cat litter at the back of the uh back of the class. Uh before now, we would have called that a mental health problem. Yeah, taking the children out to help to deal with this. Um, where are the parents in this situation? It seems they're coming down on them, but say need to get some uh strength here and deal with deal with that. Um so you've got all this. So from COVID, then it was teachers discovering. Sorry, parents just I'm an ex-teacher as well. Parents discovering what was being taught to their children, and as I've repeated constantly, you have a huge, a huge homeschooling industry in the right way. People have started taking their children out of school to front and center, and you're trying, as parents, not the state, as parents, you are trying to bring an environment of protection, and then as they're growing up, you're introducing things in your conversation as per their age, not we're gonna go to the library and we're gonna have a listen to a drag queen read whatever to my children. Why are we even having to discuss this, right? So all of that then accelerating from from COVID, but it as you quite really say, is then going back, and I'll just to see where this comes from. But I'll end with this. Talked about the hospital that she worked at, which I'll be named nameless, and then saying that there's four operations a week in regard to transgender operations. I should get my math right, as I've said it so often. If you then take the 50 states, if you then take one hospital in each state, then you're looking at multiplying 10,400 odd operations a year. Now, I think that's at the lower scale, maybe compared, you know, that's at the low scale. So you multiply that. This is rather frightening. Yes, then um, in regard to everything that we're doing, there is no doubt about it. If someone can help us with it, it'd be great. E.g., to to chase that money to work out. And as Melanie has said many times, quite rightly, it shocked me when I heard this that each individual child in America is potentially worth up to four million dollars, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Over a lifetime.

SPEAKER_00

Over a lifetime. So if you then take four million dollars times ten thousand four hundred, let alone anything. Look how much money you have just the amount of money, it's the amount of money that is going on.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, because they have to continue the surgeries and they'll always be in the system. There's no getting out of the system. So I just I want to point out two things. First of all, audience and community, Mark, you are so polite that you do not name names. I just have to commend you for that because I'd be like, that hospital and I wouldn't name it, and that doctor and I wouldn't name it. So there was a reason. There was a reason. I know they'll come after us.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, there was but but it is and I don't get me wrong. Oh no, no, no. I I wish to, I oh my goodness, that's not me. Oh it is, I do apologize.

SPEAKER_02

That's okay. That's okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um we're real. That was a normal um if you then if you then take if you then take a company like IBM, so IBM during the Second World War is all documented, right? So IBM then had a of a company called Deutsche Hologlithmaschinen. They had the punch card technology, right? Um a Edwin Black wrote a fantastic book called IBM and the Holocaust. Get the book, goes through this historical record.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So what I'm saying is is that then they draw up, they know where people are, they're drawing up all the rosters, etc. punch card, but then deny that they're dealing with uh the Nazi, uh they're dealing with the Germans, they're dealing with the Nazi uh Nazi uh um Third Reich. Just go to other companies. If you then in 1925, this is historical, check it out. IG Farben is created to be a conglomerate to protect the German uh pharmaceutical, all the whole chemical industry. They go on, Karl Duisberg, who's the head of Bayer, was then that then is the first is the CEO of IG Fairbank. They then create Cyclone B, the gases, the Jews in that situation. So we're naming that I'm naming that company. And IG Farben became bear. They were bear, but but it's this whole no, you're absolutely right, as in all part of that. So then then IG Farben as a company, they're all made up, then just then is I think in 1997 is then dissolved. They pay their bank, bank detail, bank loans off. Now, and then when I have been, I'll say this, I've been in a building in the UK that was a Bayer building, and uh having been told um the boss of Bayer would come over to the UK and say, Don't mention the war. Don't mention what we've done. Right. This is all documented. There was hit there are books about this, along with books that go. Um, if you then I don't want to go down a it's not a conspiratorial route, it's true. If you're turning around and going, if you look at Prescott Bush and you look at why they were selling oil to Hitler during the Second World War, there are many people, including Henry Ford, to look at from a historical point of view. What happens is that people don't look at this, it's uncomfortable. But going back to IG Farbon as a chemical, look at what they're then creating. Even if you go back to the First World War and you look at all the gassing of soldiers, including my great uncle, there is, you know, a German on the battlefield guiding where all this gas should go. So you've got to go back to history and look at all of this. And before someone goes, Yeah, but what's that what's that linked with transgender? Look at how we're treating human beings. Look at how the pharmaceutical industry, I don't have to educate you, Kathy. Yeah, like how a pharmaceutical like experiments. That's right. It's experimental. Melanie said it, it's experimental.

SPEAKER_01

And not even that, but what Mark was just explaining about IG Furban and the punch cards um and keeping track of the rosters. Now, fast forward, what does that have to do with the transgender industry and indoctrination of children and the school curricula? What does that have to do with it? Your children are being tracked. Did you know that? Did you know that the laptops and the iPads that your children are using in school and during COVID, that they have to check in and uh rate what kind of day they're having, what kind of mood they're in, all of that is being tracked. Audience, community, are you aware of that? Do you know that your children are being profiled? Same technology just evolved over time. More pattern from back from Nazi Germany, and even and we're just going back to Nazi Germany, but same technology. Your children are being profiled and the curricula is being set up based on these particular things because your children are being profiled for who is the most vulnerable. And then these children, these children that are deemed most vulnerable, those are the ones that are targeted. We are seeing it in transgender industry, we are seeing it in child trafficking. Who's keeping the information? And it is a question that everybody needs to ask. And parents and grandparents, you need to be involved and you should be worried. This is not conspiracy theory. This is happening. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The other, the other thing is, and you quite quite I appreciate that saying you're not naming names. Yeah. We're talking, we're talking history, but I'll throw another book out there. Book for called Tra From Transgender to Transhumanism, right? Written by Martin Rothblatt. They this individual transitioned from a male, Martin Rothblatt, to Martin Rothblatt, writes a book, transgender, from transgender to transhumanism. You have also got Nouvelle Harari, who wrote a book called Homo Symphony. I've seen him that that talks about this. Why am I saying this? Why is Melanie saying this? We are urging you to go and educate yourselves. Don't believe us, don't accept anything that we say.

SPEAKER_02

Don't repeat the past.

SPEAKER_00

Don't repeat the past, but please go and learn it and see what we are doing. And I'll say this as someone in one sense who's very new to this area, right? But with what I've seen, I'm turning around again. You are kidding me, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yes, this is shocking.

SPEAKER_00

This is shocking, and it is it is an epidemic and it has to be addressed. And I think Melanie said a very important thing. The president changes, the political winds change. And if you are not dealing with this at the state level, right? We will name this. I'll name this in regard to Colorado. There's an amazing uh young lady called Erin Lee, um, who center of a documentary called Art Club. Look it up. Art Club. We hope to add that to our website. All these different resources. Anyway, Erin Lee sent her child to an art club. It was 90 minutes up.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

I heard about it. An after school club. It was a transitioning indoctrination center, right? So when and and she describes herself in the art club in the documentary, described herself as someone to say, Well, I was a sort of person, well, whatever, com C commissar, if this is how they feel, we'll go along with this. Uh, and then it totally woke her up to turn around and go, No, no, and uh, bless him, her husband really came down on this and just said no. And there's a real fighter in the space in talking about this. Yeah, this is this is shocking, right? Yes, and also what you've got. Sorry, I'll be I'll shut up in a minute. But the key, the key, the key thing is when you look at the teaching unions, you look at the people in charge of the teaching unions. To me, they are a bunch of lunatic communists, right? Yes, we have the same problem in the UK. So this is the ideology that is running rampant, may I say, in a land of the free, of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Wake up, everybody, before you lose what you value. And the way to do that is to get off the couch, turn the television off, and start paying attention to what's going on. Yeah, and that's my party political broadcast on button for.

SPEAKER_02

But but I love that. But I think, you know, I my belief is that they in they know where they can make the most impact. So those people that have those ideologies can impact our children, and that's why they go there. But I also want to talk about um parents because um, and and you talk about the most vulnerable children. Well, a lot of times those are children that are in a broken home, correct, or their parents are absent in some way, or their parents had some sort of a horrible childhood. And and I just feel like there's there's got to be some resources for the parents too. Number one, the parents have got to be involved. Absolutely. I love that um, you know, for the art club, she realized what art club really used to be. She turned her family's tragedy into something beautiful. Something beautiful. But um, the the parental involvement. Absolutely. And you hear about like these divorce cases where the mom wants to transition the child and the dad doesn't. And you know, I'm sorry, the mom is psycho. That mom needs some mental help too to be there. I mean, what do we do about the parents? Do you guys cover anything about the parents?

SPEAKER_01

We do, and the and we delve into the mental health aspect um, you know, pretty extensively. But you're correct, uh, in that it is uh children of abuse and broken homes and on that are uh neurodivergent in, you know, a neurodivergent diagnosis, so autism spectrum. Um, so we haven't seen those things skyrocket until vaccines, of course, uh particular vaccines, um, came on the scene. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which which also disrupt your hormones.

SPEAKER_01

That is that is correct. That is correct. Um, but what you're also speaking of in these broken homes and what parents can do to get involved, it has been a grand plan that we explore in our documentary that is the breakdown of the nuclear family. And as Mark was speaking about Erin and her husband John in Colorado, I had actually said to Aaron, God bless your husband, because the thing that actually struck me about that was it didn't end or didn't start coming to an end until her husband stepped in and said, not that he wasn't involved, but until he really took an uh, you know, a hold of the whole situation and said, no, enough is enough. You are a girl. This is this is what it's going to be. And so we see these children. That just speaks, as I said to Aaron, we see these children, they're suffering. And when I said to Aaron, what struck me about that is when her husband really took the reins. And that really speaks to the role of the nuclear family and the fathers in the family.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

We see a lot of these things happening because of the mothers, the mothers being mama bears. Dads, you gotta step up to the plate. You need to be the head of your household. And so we explore this in our documentary of the breakdown of the nuclear family following the sexual revolution. And we go back as to how this whole agenda started all throughout time. And we also didn't really see the if you if you explore history, you really don't see the amount of mental illness and neurodivergence and um broken homes and until the sexual revolution and taking women out of out of the homes and being the primary caregivers, when you start seeing the breakdown of that nuclear family, you start seeing abortion on the rise, you start seeing mentally ill children, you start seeing these cascading events. And so resources for parents, yes, there are resources for parents. Parentsonthevel.com has a lot of those resources for how parents can get involved. Um, also mental health resources for parents, Association for Mental Health Professionals.org, um, conservativecounselors.com, grassroots therapists, um, all organizations that we work with that have mental health resources for parents and can really can really help and speak to what what parents can do to help with the mental health epidemic and to rebuild the nuclear family.

SPEAKER_02

I know we were Melanie and I were talking before doing the podcast, and she was talking about all of the information that they've gathered and all of the interviews that they're doing that talk about it's like it's it's like how many seasons is this gonna be? Because there is just so much information that needs to be documented and released so that people can be made aware of the corruption. Because you know, there's a lot of people that just you know get up and go on their day and blinders on, and then it hits somebody in their family. Yes. Or, you know, something happens, and and what we want to do is we want to prevent it from even happening.

SPEAKER_03

Correct.

SPEAKER_02

And the way that you prevent things from happening is by creating awareness and creating resources. So what you all are doing is thank you.

SPEAKER_01

God led. We want to give back with with the donations that we receive, and we are about transparency. So we do have a 501c3. Our website is imageunshaken.com. Um, it is a website that's set up with resources, and all of the resources that I've mentioned are on our website. Our website is continuously being updated and expanded. Um, but we do have a 501c3 for donations to help fund the documentary that we're making uh to help us get the individuals. And I do want to say, any my husband, God bless him. He says, well, anybody can make a documentary, anybody can write a book, I can do that. Um, just because I do it doesn't make it true. What do you have to show for it? And what he was getting at, he was not being disrespectful. The point that he was making is that you can't make something like this and just have it as conjecture or a supposition or an assumption. Every single person that we have interviewed, every single expert that we have, we are bringing the receipts. Those individuals have brought the receipts. So you can and and and we show it in the documentary. So we're going someplace that no other individuals and no other documentary has gone before. I'm telling you, that has not made us popular. But what I am saying about all of that is our 501c3, um, you know, we can give you the website and the uh imageunshaken.com. There is a button to donate in the upper right hand corner. Uh, there will be a QR code. What we are going to do to fund this documentary, because we're all self-funded right now, except through generous donations, we will be transparent about where every penny goes to. That is something that we are very passionate about, that we will be able to show where every penny goes. But what we also want to do is give back to our churches and give back to our communities, such that we want to create a conference specifically for all of these resources that we have just spoken about. So having a conference that pastors can be trained because the church is very ill-equipped to handle this. And it is showing up in the churches, and pastors don't know what to do. We have a pastor expert, you know, who can train individuals. We have our expert in the school curricula that can train individuals. We have our mental health that can that can train individuals. So we want to give back and set up a conference that anybody can come to. Pastors, grandparents, parents, community leaders. Um, we want to teach individuals how to become involved in their school boards and writing legislation to really drive change. So we don't want to just create a documentary that has shock value. It will have shock value because of the authenticity and because of the factual nature and the receipts that we're bringing. Not just that. We want to further give back to our communities to really drive meaningful change. Yes. And that's what each donation will help, not to give us a paycheck, but to help fund these sorts of things so that the communities will be equipped.

SPEAKER_00

The other, the other thing is, Kathy, we have a long list of guests that you can interview on your podcast.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, absolutely. I would love to.

SPEAKER_00

But there is a reason for saying that because there is such a cross-fertilization that we realize with a variety of different people, and it encourages them as well. Like a dear friend of ours, George Carneal, who wrote a book called From Queer to Christ and was in a homosexual lifestyle for 19, 20 odd years. George is worth interviewing. We have interviewed him. George is worth having a conversation with, right? And also to then talk about his book. There are other people to then begin to talk about, and also people would appreciate that outlet. They've had an experience that God has given them, and they want to be able to talk about that. Yes. Because they want to they want to educate people on this. But Melanie said a really important thing. Pastors, they're not stepping up, they're not discussing a load of these issues, and they need to uh they need to discuss. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm I would like to think that also having Christ in your home is going to be something to find your strength and and your answers and to reduce that confusion that they are constantly trying to put into our lives, into our children's lives, and just, you know, and again, the sense of community and the sense of networking, like you're coming on the podcast, and um, you know, we're going to introduce you to a couple of resources. And it's just that's how we make change. That's correct. That's how we make the difference. Um, I do want to say again, it is imageunshaken.com where you can donate and also I'm sure there's a contact form or something if there sure is. Like resources. Um, I do want to say that the documentary doesn't have a title yet. Correct. So if you want to throw in a suggestion for documentary names, they will take those.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, go to our go to our website, fill out, fill out the contact us form and submit your uh submit your ideas because we committed the project to Christ and we we just said, um, you know, God, this is this is your documentary. You take it in the way that you want to go, you reveal the information that you want. Um, but you know, I just want to close um by saying what I say when I close all of my lectures. I have such a passion. I'm not a mother myself. I I would like to consider myself the mother of America's children um and perhaps the mother of the world's children. Not that I'm trying to put myself on any level, but I don't want to stop until their pronouns that they go by are chosen and redeemed.

SPEAKER_02

I love that. I love that. Well, we all we all have a mission. Mark, do you have any last words?

SPEAKER_00

No, just to not really except say thank you so much for uh letting us have this conversation. I'll just quickly say anytime I we are given a platform, it's a real privilege and I don't take it for granted. And this isn't about clickbait, this is about educating people to engage and to go and learn about what's going on. Go and learn your own history. If you don't know it, go and learn it. Yes, and to educate yourself. It's really important.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, um so the Mehan Mission Podcast was born out of tragedy from my husband's death, and you know, our our pillars are faith, science, health, and truth.

SPEAKER_01

And you guys are thank you, thank you, so so perfect for it.

SPEAKER_02

And I just God bless you guys on your journey, and may more and more people be educated. And um, if you if you hear the word conspiracy, guess what? It's probably true. It's probably true. So, you guys, thank you so much, everyone. Please share this video with people so we can get the message out and funding for imageunshaken.com. God bless everybody and have a beautiful day. Thank you.