Confident, Not Cocky
Real talk. Real discussions. You'll love this show because I know you can relate and I know this will be interesting as hell to you. This is just me being confident, not cocky.
Confident, Not Cocky
Brotherly Bond
Can discussing hypothetical scenarios and sharing personal tales strengthen the bond between siblings? Join me, Charles Campos Jr., and my younger brother, Kobe Perez, as we navigate through an array of engaging topics on this episode of "Confident, not Cocky." From the unique atmosphere of Kobe's college life at Wabash College to our entertaining debates about surviving a zombie apocalypse, our conversation is filled with humor, insights, and unexpected twists. Kobe also shares his personal preferences for small, intimate gatherings over the typical college party scene.
Our discussion transitions into practical advice on prioritizing time with your partner and managing finances for a secure future. While we do not go depth on financial advice, we discuss the issue how society lets down our youth when it comes to financial simplicities, while I share insights on financial pitfalls and resources to help young couples build a strong foundation. This episode is packed with reflections on the balance between personal growth and shared responsibilities.
Looking for a dose of humor and thought-provoking scenarios? We explore everything from the fear of sharks to heroic death scenarios, with playful banter and serious reflections on bravery and selflessness. Dive into our fears and anxieties about natural disasters and the vastness of the ocean, hear personal anecdotes about haunted houses, and even imagine a world where you'd have to dress as a clown for a year. With a mix of laughter and introspection, this episode promises to entertain and engage, leaving you with a new perspective on identity, family, and life's unpredictable journey.
As the saying goes, it ain't cocky if you back it up. This is Confident, not Cocky the show where bold conversations meet relatable real-life experiences. Hosted by Charles Campos Jr, this podcast brings you everything from the latest trends in news to personal stories that make you laugh, reflect and maybe even get a little emotional. Whether it's Charles flying solo or chopping it up with special guests, nothing's off the table and it's always straight talk, real and raw, no filter. So get ready for a ride that's as fun as it is real. So get ready for a ride that's as fun as it is real. This is Confident, not Cocky, and this is your host, charles.
Speaker 2:Campos Jr. All right, welcome back, confident, not Cocky. I'm your host, charles Campos Jr, and I'm here with a special guest, somebody of blood, my younger brother, kobe yep, kobe Perez, the youngest out of four, the best-looking one too.
Speaker 3:No, it's not cocky. If you can back it up, and I can back it up, oh god, that's your opinion.
Speaker 2:In're entitled to your opinion. Ask mom how you been tonight.
Speaker 3:It's been going. I've been doing alright Been taking care of Noah's dog, our other brother's dog.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's right. Our other brother, noah, one of my other youngest, because I am the oldest and his dog's name is whatuffy it's uh, from a one piece anime which is like the only anime I feel like he actually watches.
Speaker 3:Uh, it has like 1400 episodes it's still coming out.
Speaker 2:From what I understand, it's a very popular show.
Speaker 3:It is but to catch up with 1,400 episodes when it still comes out today.
Speaker 2:I mean, didn't they do a Netflix movie?
Speaker 3:Live action, yeah, live action, right, I never watched it.
Speaker 2:I would assume it's pretty popular. I do want to say thank you for stepping in tonight. We didn't have you on the books to be here tonight but unfortunately someone who I had uh previously scheduled kind of snubbed me on on that. So once again, I appreciate you. Uh, filling in is either this or homework.
Speaker 3:So which is this homework? Uh, and you go to what school do you go to? Uh wabash college? It's? Uh, it's a small private school, all boys school.
Speaker 2:Uh, 800 kids down in um crawfordsville, indiana I think, I've asked you this before, but how's your experience been at all? All boys school? I mean, does it bother you? Does it? Do you have any type of likeOMO going to a co-ed school? Overall, how's your experience been?
Speaker 3:So, of course, when I was first deciding where I wanted to go, it was kind of weird thinking of going to an all-boys school. Not so much because I want to find myself a lady I have a girlfriend of five years but it's just weird to think 800 kids, all guys, what would that be like? And, honestly, freshman year when I first went I'm a senior now, but freshman year you don't even notice it. It's kind of almost better too, because everyone's just dressed in pajamas. Nobody's trying to look their best. Some people do wear suits though, really, really, but that's due to tradition or if there's a talk going on fraternities have their kind of policies for freshmen or incoming brothers.
Speaker 3:But just my experience. It's been great. I probably enjoy it more than I would have going to a co-ed school. Why do you think that? Just because there's such a lack of judgment there. There's people who go to Wabash, who wear capes and, you know, dress kind of out of the ordinary, but there's no judgment. I've never heard anybody say one bad thing about it. I've never seen anybody laugh about it.
Speaker 3:They just kind of oh that's different and then move on with their day. Um, it's just like such a brotherly culture that there's no judgment and it's just nothing but vibes. There is, uh, the best way to describe it?
Speaker 2:and what town is it? Is it town of wabash, or is that just? No, that's just the college.
Speaker 3:Um. What town is it man? It's uh crawfordsville um and where's that? It's about it's southeast of lafayette or lafayette however, you want to say it it's about 30 minutes away from there, an hour away from Indy, so it's between Indy and Lafayette.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's not like you're in the middle of nowhere. So there is. I mean you could. Is the town small?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the town is real small, there's not really much to do.
Speaker 2:So you don't really have like a downtown area? No, not really.
Speaker 3:You have a bowling alley. That's about it for things to do there, unless you like hiking. There's kind of a wildlife sort of area. It's called Turkey Run or something. Yeah, I went there a few times, very beautiful, very relaxing, but that's kind of you have to be liking hiking in order to like it. So, other than that, you you would have to go to uh purdue if you wanted to do something else yeah, and you're not really the type of like party hardy type of person are you.
Speaker 3:No, I, I've yet to go to one party at wabash. Really, yeah it's, it does not interest me.
Speaker 2:Um, just the whole like vibe of bunch of people drinking or the drinking itself doesn't really interest you. What doesn't interest you about that?
Speaker 3:I mean for me if I wanted to have fun, I like I could have fun drinking with three, four other people. I don't need to be surrounded by a bunch of people I don't know, in a sweaty environment listening to music, it being too loud for us to have a conversation or anything like that. Um, my like version of a good time is being with three or four of my friends. We have music playing not that loud to where we can't hear each other, and we just, you know, we drink, have fun. I just think the party itself is just too chaotic, almost in a sense yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:I guess I'd never really asked you about that. And I mean, even when you're home, it's not like we all go out and party or go to the bars. I mean we're all, all the brothers of our of age, drinking age. So I was just curious. I guess I never really, I never really seen you be that type of person where you're like oh yeah, let's go, let's go do shots at the bar.
Speaker 3:I mean I'm, I am that kind of person in the right environment.
Speaker 2:But you just don't like doing it in a party setting, in like a party sense, like where you are rubbing up against somebody 24-7.
Speaker 3:Like I'm on the well, I guess I was on the soccer team, but now, since the season's done, I'm no longer part of the team, since this is my senior year. But we went to france last year and that's right.
Speaker 2:Huh, I said that's right. I remember that, yeah, and we like.
Speaker 3:The first night the whole team went out drinking and me and a few other guys were buying shots for people and that kind of environment. I don't mind it's not like you know rubbing against everyone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it's a different country, but it's also people aren't all up in your business. You know you're not trying to please anyone. It's just you and a group of friends in your like own little area just having a good time listening to music. So it's just the. I guess the way I see parties at wabash everyone's like rubbing against each other and that's the part that I don't really care for.
Speaker 2:Being in a sticky, sweaty oh no, yeah, there's sometimes you would go to a party and it be like noisy, everyone's dripping, sweating and yeah, and then you don't even remember it because you drink too much, and then it's just to me it's not, it's not appealing.
Speaker 3:I rather have a good time with a few friends rather than try hearing one person right next to me no I can't even hear them.
Speaker 3:I will say that there's a stigma that goes around like oh, oh, what is parties at? Wabash? Just all guys and it's not like fraternities would go to Purdue. They go to DePaul, which is our rivals, and they do things called serenades where they'll have like the freshmen dance to like the whole sorority in order to like invite them to our parties and we go and pick them up from like purdue and bring them back and then somebody sober drives back and that's what I was asking, lynn you.
Speaker 3:There's other bigger cities and stuff oh yeah, so like 30, 30, 40 minutes away, you have lafayette purdue there, so I like how you say lafayette, I know I get, I get a lot of hate for it, lafayette, lafayette.
Speaker 2:Well, speaking of brothers, I kind of I was thinking about this literally just a couple of days ago I was watching something on TikTok. They talk about some kind of zombie apocalypse and I was just curious, you die first.
Speaker 3:You really think I almost died first. You or Noah would die first. Well, who do you?
Speaker 2:think you think it would be me or Noah.
Speaker 3:Okay, give me your answer and you have to explain why you would think I would probably, I'd probably say you would die first. And why do you think I would die first? So I feel like noah is more in shape. So if it comes to running away, I feel like noah has you beat there, okay, and I feel like street, street smarts. You might have more of it, but noah wouldn't even like leave the house. He'd be fine like just being inside and doing something.
Speaker 2:That's the whole thing you would think okay, so if we're stuck in a house and it's a crisis, you think Noah will handle damage control better than I would.
Speaker 3:Yes, because you would probably send your kids to go see what the noise is.
Speaker 1:I would not do that, I would not do that.
Speaker 3:No, no, I mean you know how I would not do that. No, no, I don't. I mean you know how to handle a gun better. So let's say, if you have a gun, then sure you'll last longer than Noah, but I feel like you would find yourself in more dangerous situations than Noah, would I feel?
Speaker 2:like Noah would not.
Speaker 3:Well, I would have three kids, so yeah, I would Okay, let's assume the zombies got them already. Exactly the Okay, let's assume the zombies got them already. The zombies got your kids already. You're by yourself.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm by myself. Great, Awesome. This sounds like an awesome scenario.
Speaker 3:Noah, would be fine. You, I feel like, would want to go out and see what's going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to stay in one place, so you'd put yourself in more of a. Well, noah's not going to have an infinite amount of food and supplies.
Speaker 3:He, food and supplies he's gonna have to move eventually, eventually, but you'll be moving from house to house every two hours.
Speaker 2:I feel like yeah I would be exploring I gotta get you put yourself in. I gotta get your supplies. You're not agile enough to get out of all those dangerous situations okay, fine, so then between you and christian, our other brother, who would die first or last? Who do you think would survive out of all four of us?
Speaker 3:Do we all have the same materials? Assume we have the same materials. Different situations, because you and Christian own guns, me and Noah don't.
Speaker 2:That's why you have to go to and scavenge parts and supplies. I think Christian would outlast me.
Speaker 3:You think so. I think so. I feel like if I were to die, if I were to die, it'd be by other people. If christian were to die, it'd be by zombies. I feel like so, you think humans would kill you.
Speaker 2:Yes, before a zombie would I don't think.
Speaker 3:I think I've seen and played enough games.
Speaker 1:Like what kind of?
Speaker 3:zombies are they? That's my question, Because that's you know the walking dead Walking dead zombies. Oh yeah, I'll be fine. I wouldn't die by zombies. I'm too agile, too quick. I wouldn't get caught by no zombies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if there's a horde of zombies, your quickness and speed doesn't do much if you're surrounded or cornered.
Speaker 3:I mean, what if I'm in a house and zombies? Have the whole place surrounded. Let's say we're in our house, my house, right, yeah, I'll go upstairs, break the window, hop on, like the garage through the one window and then just jump.
Speaker 1:Jump over him.
Speaker 3:If I was on top of a roof, versus you, I have a better chance of getting off of that roof just because I'm a lot more agile.
Speaker 2:I know how to tuck and roll.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's see how well that works. The order, I think would go Christian. He would die because he is broad-shouldered, so he's more of a target for zombies in my opinion, if it's close quarters.
Speaker 3:I feel like he would survive the longest. Then it'd be me, and then you would know it's up 50-50. But I feel like it'd be you dying first. It'd be something dumb. You would die in 50-50, but I feel like it'd be you dying first. It'd be something dumb. You would die in a dumb way. I feel like you would die in a dumb way, I don't know. You'd be the type where, if you're being chased, you like corner yourself in a closet or something I don't know.
Speaker 2:You have no confidence in me whatsoever?
Speaker 3:No, not really Not in Apocalypse. Now, if there were World War Z zombies, nobody would survive, I would kill myself.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's a different story.
Speaker 3:Who do you think would survive the longest? Do you think you would?
Speaker 2:I think honestly Christian would survive the longest.
Speaker 3:I would be right behind him. I think Noah would be at the bottom. Then who between me and you? Who is it?
Speaker 2:I think I would survive the longest than you. I just I know how to handle weapons.
Speaker 3:I know resources Me. You and Aaron went out and I shot better than you, it doesn't matter. And in the shooting range so you're saying we're doing quick draw. I shot better than you in a quick draw One time, one time.
Speaker 2:I'm just a natural born shooter, yeah okay, I think you just got too much confidence in yourself, which is not a bad thing.
Speaker 3:I think you're too cocky.
Speaker 2:I'm confident you're cocky. I'm confident you're cocky, I'm just confident. I think if it came down to having my wife and kids, I would not be so reckless. I would have to be careful, extra careful, and yeah, I mean, if it was just you, you just gotta supply for yourself. I have to supply for three kids and a wife.
Speaker 3:They're zombies. They're the ones chasing you.
Speaker 2:I think, I would like to think, that I would sacrifice myself if I let one of my kids get eaten like you would let yourself die if your kids got eaten if we were cornered? And the only way for them to live was, to me, to dive into a pile of zombies then you know, I don't know if that's the right take on that.
Speaker 3:Let's say if it wait, is jessica still alive? Your wife is she? Would she still be alive? Yeah, maybe, but she wasn't and your kids were about to get you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you just might want to make it quicker for your kids at that point because, like if you sacrifice yourself, then what's lorenzo gonna do?
Speaker 2:they'll be on. They'll be on their own. Yeah, I get that aspect of it, but no, I think uh it'll be.
Speaker 3:You're in the running for the bottom.
Speaker 2:No, not in my head.
Speaker 1:Not in my head.
Speaker 2:But it does suck that Noah is in the bottom on both of ours it's okay. Noah, we love you, hey you know Noah's getting in shape now.
Speaker 1:He's looking good.
Speaker 3:Good, it's because of that dog.
Speaker 2:It's a lot easier to get in shape now than it is to wait a year and 30 oh yeah, try to do it that way.
Speaker 2:That sucks, but that's good. I mean it keeps you busy. I mean you feel better. I mean I know before I like you just feel sluggish, you feel slow, you feel tired all the time and it's really hard to beat a pump in the gym. I mean you put your headphones on, you focus in a good hour, hour and a half working out, do a little treadmill and it's almost like have you heard of a runner's high?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was a runner, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like that you get into your second or third set and you got blood flowing through your body and it's like you feel real good. It's definitely a good feeling.
Speaker 3:I need to start going to the gym Now that soccer's over.
Speaker 2:I got no real responsibility to stay in shape, and then I just been going to the gym and running.
Speaker 3:That's all I've been doing as skinny.
Speaker 2:You as you are, you could especially now you could do a little bulk, hit those weights and then come summer you could just do a cut and you'll be, you'll be ripped dude summer.
Speaker 3:You could just do a cut and you'll be. You'll be ripped, dude. The issue is is the way I eat. I'm so picky. Well, diet is a big part of it.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah but in a bulk you can eat damn near whatever you want, you just gotta eat a lot of cut that I'm worried about it's the cuts, the hard part, it's always the hard part yeah, like you, you got, you got a six-pack under that gut, you just, you just haven't cut yet. Exactly. Yeah, there's a six-pack under that. Gut, you just haven't cut yet. Exactly, yeah, there's a six-pack there.
Speaker 2:You can feel it if you feel hard enough and use a little bit of your imagination. It's just covered all from fat. It's the kids. Oh yeah, the kids do it. Well, I mean kids take up a lot of your time. I mean by time to get a workout like schedule. When you're working you gotta take care your kids, then you go work out and then you gotta try still to spend time with your you know wife and husband.
Speaker 3:Um it's tough. Yeah, both of them wife and wife or husband no I, I heard you uh talking your last podcast about that, trying to you know. At times you guys say you know what you kids go do something.
Speaker 2:Oh, I, I firmly believe sometimes you gotta say, fuck those kids and you gotta just spend time with your spouse. Oh yeah, I, I truly believe that, because I think a lot of people, a lot of couples or a lot of parents, they get so focused on kids, kids, kids it's all about the kids. I gotta do everything for my kids. I gotta give my kids all the attention, all the love which is it's fine. Yeah, your kids should feel loved. But if you're gonna make a marriage work, you gotta spend time with your, with your spouse. You have to make sure you guys are connected mentally, emotionally everything absolutely and that's
Speaker 3:that's something even without kids you gotta you know you gotta take care of yourself self-care and it when you're in a long relationship, because even my relationship is getting to that point. Me and her have been together since junior year of high school and I'm a senior in college now and it's to the point where we're both complacent. It's, you know, nothing like too new that we're finding out about each other. You know the honeymoon phase is over, so now we just had to be. It's almost more work now to make sure we feel the love still. We give each other the support we need, because it's easy just to push them aside and be like oh, we're together and we've been together for a while, we're fine how we are it does take effort to you know go on dates the love and be there mentally for them.
Speaker 2:But the good thing about your situation is that you're young and you're still in college, very true, but the interesting and the thing I think you have to look forward to is that it's like a next chapter of your life. You're going to be graduating college here pretty soon and you know you could. You could go the route christian did, where he stayed at home for probably for a while like about seven years.
Speaker 2:About seven years like what, 28 when he moved out yeah, that sounds about right but he would have moved out sooner if it wasn't for covid and the market going absolutely crazy but I mean, he did it in a smart way where he saved up, he paid bills, he paid his student loans. So absolutely good for him. You could go that route. Or, if you want it, if you don't want to stay at the house, then you get a job, save up a little bit and you get out, and that's's the thing you two are going to be going through, looking for an apartment together.
Speaker 3:Then it's going to be Well actually her dad owns a property and he has a house out there. She's already living on her own there.
Speaker 1:She pays rent.
Speaker 3:It's basically like an apartment, but just essentially her own house, and she pays rent there.
Speaker 2:So then, once you guys start living together and waking up together, that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the story, cause I, you know, I told her my plan Um, cause she's asked me like about marriage, like what, what I think about it. And I, I told her, I want to get my financial straight. Once I get my financial straight, we move in together. I want two years together, living together, at least, and then we can talk about marriage. Do you have any credit cards? Have you signed up for any credit cards. I have a credit card under my name, but I don't pay that off.
Speaker 2:Who pays for that? My dad. Okay, I was going to say, especially in your situation, I wish someone told me about this a while ago, especially in your situation, I wish someone told me about this a while ago. A good channel to watch on YouTube is the Financial Audit Caleb Hammer. A lot of it is kind of like on the entertaining side, but the other side of it is you hear these stories of these people who are in massive debt. He's that younger kid, right, not a kid, he's probably almost like 30 years old. He's kind of a chubbier guy, does he have glasses?
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, you know I'm not the biggest. If I'm thinking of the right person. He kind of has some kind of just people who have no idea of how anything work on his channel, right but the process of what like, what they've done, and their habits and their way of thinking is typical among just the average american yeah, that doesn't know anything about any type of finances or how debt works, how loans work.
Speaker 2:So I would like I would just recommend to you just not because you're my brother, but anybody out there who's young, right out of college or even in college right now is take a peek at his videos, because you hear these stories of people who get themselves in massive debts and it's usually due to credit cards, and it's something that took me a while, just honestly, just this year, to get my shit in order, because we're trying to get me and my wife's debt down so we can buy a new house. And just the way that I should have handled credit cards shit five, ten years ago. If I would have known what I know now, I would be in a five time better position. So that's why I asked you if you have a credit card or anything like that, because people get a credit card and they just think, oh, this is infinite money I'm gonna spend, spend, spend and they don't realize the interest rates and you have to pay it back and it's bad.
Speaker 3:So that's why I recommend what's good for me is I took a lot of econ classes or I have taken a lot of econ classes. You know microeconomics, macroeconomics, banking or financial banking, and we learn about interest rates, we learn about debt, we learn about loans and it's really, once you learn about it, it almost sounds like basic information. You would think right, people don't know it because nobody teaches them.
Speaker 2:Nope, I really wish high schools would teach just a standard financial one-on-one class. They don't, even if it was an elective.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would hope that it would be a mandatory course, mandatory course but they really need to need to have a financial one-on-one to discuss interest rates, credit cards, loans, how they work, uh, how to you know? Taxes pay your taxes because people get it. People don't like to pay taxes for some reason, and then they just murder their financial situations by that. So I I really wish that high schools would prepare kids more, because you get out of high school, you go to college and you get people on the streets and with stands like discoverer or chase, and hey, here's a card, sign up for free. Blah, blah, blah. And then now this kid, who has no knowledge of money, spends for pizza and video games and it's.
Speaker 2:It's a really bad hole to get out of and so if you, if you want to get some financial knowledge dropped on you and also hear some crazy ass stories and be entertained, I would recommend Caleb Hammer financial audit.
Speaker 3:I've seen his clips, but you know some people when, like some people he talks to, he goes you can't be eating out everyday. And they'd be like why not? I'm like, what do you mean? Why not like?
Speaker 2:you can't be eating out every day. They'd be like, why not? I'm like, what do you mean? Why not? You can't afford it. People are in debt. In a monthly period, people are spending like $300 to $600 on eating out.
Speaker 3:It's crazy. You would think that's basic knowledge, to know you can't do that, but no one's ever taught them that.
Speaker 2:No one's ever told them that. No one's ever told them that they just it's like free money.
Speaker 3:I think that comes down to a lot about parents as well, because if you're a parent, you probably have a credit card and you probably should have a general idea of how it works.
Speaker 2:But they have people in their 40s, 50s and 60s that go on that show and still don't understand how it is or what you should be doing to be financially set. So it's a very wide spectrum. You have 19-year-olds who are been had the same habits for decades and they have dug themselves into such a large hole that they they don't have anything to retire on and they're gonna die on the walmart floor. That's what that's at least what caleb says. And then, uh, speaking of money, I did look up this, this question, uh, I heard it on another tiktok and I was like you know what? This would be a good question for kobe if you were offered a million dollars to be a clown for a year. We're talking like the whole get up face, paint everything. You can never take it the outfit off, not even when I'm home alone.
Speaker 2:Not even when you're home alone. Okay, and you couldn't explain to anybody why you were doing it. Would you do that for a year if it meant you'll get a million dollars?
Speaker 3:So is that face paint and everything full year round?
Speaker 2:Face paint and everything you got to go year and everything you got to go to work, you got to go to school, you got to go to family events, you have to go to bed.
Speaker 3:Can I tell people afterwards, yeah, afterwards, yeah, like yeah, I was a clown for a year because I was someone paid a million bucks yeah but would you do go, do all that assuming that, that the pain doesn't cause any irritation to your skin and you come out healthy at the end of it. Right, yeah, I think I could do it. I think I could do it, you think you could do that. I think it would get tired.
Speaker 2:We're talking about the big shoes and the parachute pants, I think I could do it.
Speaker 3:I think I could go through it If people could go to prison for 40 years and somehow make it work.
Speaker 2:I think I did prison. You're, you go. Yeah, I mean you're you kind of have your day planned out.
Speaker 3:Some people in there seem very happy, and now I could dress as a clown for a year, make a million bucks. Then, assuming I use that money correctly, I could probably retire pretty early, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you think you could go to work in a clown suit?
Speaker 3:Your work is the clown. Wait, are you saying my job isn't being a clown?
Speaker 2:Because you're not going to get paid until the year's over, so you still have to have a job.
Speaker 3:As of right now, I will just stay at home. Okay, let's say it's 10 years later. Okay, I'm by myself. Okay.
Speaker 2:Let's say, five years from now. You got your own place, you're with your lady. Let's say you're with your lady.
Speaker 3:Does she know why I'm doing it? Nope, she's going to leave me. That's the risk you take hold on you said everything came out fine at the end of it there's no pain and suffering, there's no permanent damage.
Speaker 2:You just have to dress up as a clown every single day for a year.
Speaker 3:What was my job beforehand? Let's just say how much was I making.
Speaker 2:Let's just say you landed a pretty decent job after school and now let's just say you're in an office type setting making $65,000 a year 10 years after I graduate, I'm only making $65,000. We're saying five years. So how old are you now? 21, so I'm 26. So let's say you're 26, 27 years old, I mean you're almost 30. And you got an office setting type of job and you're making about $65,000 a year.
Speaker 3:I would be making more than $65,000. No, this is a year I would be making more than 65. This is a scenario. If it's hypothetical, then I would do it. You would do it. But if we're talking about realistically, in five to six years, I can guarantee you I'll be making at least 80,000 a year. You think so In five to seven years, I can guarantee it. Doing what, whatever I do, I mean whatever. Doing what, whatever I do, I mean whatever.
Speaker 2:I mean whatever. What kind of answer is that? So, whatever I decide to do, what's your plan in seven years? I don't have one.
Speaker 3:So my goal is first out of college, just dip into the job market. Sure sure Test to see what I like. But whatever I find out that I like like, I'm going to succeed at it, no matter what, I'm going to succeed at it, okay, and I guarantee in six years I'll be making at least eighty thousand dollars but you don't have any idea what profession that's going to be to anything that relates to talking with people.
Speaker 3:I love talking to people. I think my biggest strength is talking to people. What do you want to do? What do you want to do? See, I don't Going into college. I wanted to be an engineer. Sure, didn't really care for it. I don't know if it's because for three, four years I would have to just be doing math and physics only and I would not see what it's like as an engineer at all, because Wabash doesn't provide engineering classes. So I had to do three or four years there and then two years at Purdue. So I wouldn't even find out if I like engineering until five years down the road. So that didn't interest me once I started taking classes. Then I dipped into computer science. I just did not enjoy that. Sitting behind the screen all day, not talking to anyone, was not enjoyable. And then that's when I landed on econ. It's interesting, but I just don't see what I would do with econ like.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, have you researched on what?
Speaker 3:typically people like to go into accounting anything with banking um financial advisors and that doesn't interest you no because that's just again sitting behind a desk all day looking at charts and graphs and how the economy is working, essentially like, yeah, you talk to your clients, but every job requires you to talk to probably some sort of client at some point, if not co-workers.
Speaker 2:So you don't think and I know it's hard to say right now or see the future. So you don't think that whatever profession you're gonna have in five, seven years, you don't think it's going to even pertain to what you're going to graduate with major. You're going to graduate with it well, I guess I.
Speaker 3:So my major isn't econ, I'm a humanities major okay so that is basically the study of like human actions, behavior, um, culture, language, anything like that. I feel like it will pertain to some of what I learn, um, but I don't think it's going to be 100% what my major is so like. Even like noah, he is doing what his major requires. Christian, he's not doing what his major requires. I'm sure that Christian, his major helps when it comes to, like, promotions and stuff, but even if you don't have a college degree, you could probably get the job that he has Okay.
Speaker 2:So with that being said, kind of knowing Christians. Noah you're in my situation when it comes to secondary education, yeah, do you believe that college is a requirement to be successful or have a successful career?
Speaker 3:No, no, I definitely don't think college is required. I think it helps. I think, if you want a job that doesn't require you to, or at least a physically demanding job, like a plumber, like an electrician, this and that college will help finding a job that doesn't require electrician.
Speaker 2:That's more of a trade school it is you can't, you're not gonna go to purdue to be an electrician, but that's, that's what I'm saying like.
Speaker 3:You don't need a college degree for like careers like that, but those careers are physically demanding oh yeah yeah, yeah. I worked as a low voltage electrician for two summers. Even those two summers, if I did that for the next 10 years of my life, my body would be aching so you don't think at all and let's just keep your situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you don't think this four years, whatever you graduated and let's just say, is some kind of humanity, or yeah, you don't think at all that those four years would be a waste of time. Let's just say, in six years you are. Let's just say a supervisor let's just say a plant supervisor. Six years from now, plant supervisor, you're making 80 grand. You got a good life. You don't think those four years at Wabash educational-wise not experience-wise educational-wise would be a waste of time?
Speaker 3:I don't think so. Education-wise, going to school has taught me how to critically think, how to manage time, how to talk to people, how to use my resources, and obviously you can learn all that outside of college.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I was going to say too, but it's definitely a lot harder. You definitely don't have as many, you don't have as great of an access to help that you may need, like if you need to research something. You may not have any clue where the best places to research are and if you, if you look at google, you got library, you got you do, but google searches will.
Speaker 3:They can steer you towards certain, you know, let's say, political leaning answers. Um, and just because something says like, oh, this research was done, like, you may not know if it's something that's trustworthy, if it's something that was peer-reviewed, if it's something credible, um, you know you, you obviously go out your way to learn all of it, but I think that when you have people who direct you towards the right way, mixed with the experience aspect of college, it's worth it. For me. I've talked with many professors, given many presentations. Public speaking, I'll say, is one of the biggest things I learned how to do. When you're up in front of 50 people, that's nerve-wracking. If you're doing it for the first time and it's in a job setting, there's no real way to train for that. You could talk to a group of 10 friends. That's not the same as talking to 50 people.
Speaker 3:Giving a speech about something that you need to do research on. So I think public speaking is something that college teaches pretty well, depending on what classes you take, and I think that's another thing. If you go into college thinking I'm just here for a good time, then it's a waste. I think that's a waste of four years. I know people who were smart in high school who I thought would be really doing really well in college. They're getting c's and all they're doing is partying. That, to me, is a wasted experience of college. I think all the money that they're going to be spending, all the money they have spent, is a waste just for that experience. You're spending fifteen thousand dollars a semester just to go party.
Speaker 2:Essentially, yeah, and then so I have my answer, and it is probably a generational thing. But let's just say, eight years from now, you have, you have kids. They grow up, they're go to go to high school. Do you? Are you gonna push them to go to college? Are you gonna just accept if they say, daddy, I don't want to go to college, I want to do this. A, b or c? Do you think you're going to be that parent to like no, no, no, you're going to have to go to, you're going to have to do this, you're going to have to do four years because that's the best way to go. What's your, what's your take on that as of now.
Speaker 3:So if I have a kid and they don't know what they want to do after high school. I will make them go to college. That way they can take classes and at least learn what they like and don't like, instead of working at McDonald's for two years just so they have some money and then going to another being a server for another few years.
Speaker 2:Let's just say they, they have an idea If they have an idea.
Speaker 3:as long as they are pursuing that idea, I'll be okay with it. That's fair. Let's say they go into the trades, as long as they go through the classes they need. I'll be fine with it. But now, if it's something like they want to be an influencer, but come on.
Speaker 2:I mean at that point let's say realistically, you'll have kids in eight years. A lot's going to change in eight years. Like influencers, now they've taken it's like a boom industry.
Speaker 3:They have.
Speaker 2:Influencers now. Who knows how it's going to be in eight years. That's true.
Speaker 3:But I would say I would tell them if you want to be in eight years. So that's true. But I would say I'll tell them if you want to be an influencer, I'll support you, but if it doesn't work, then that's three, four years where you're making no money I think, if you educate them and yeah give them the kind of like the consequences, yeah, but I. I mean, I think that if they wanted to do that, I would require them to do some local schooling, at least bare minimum.
Speaker 1:Or maybe online schools.
Speaker 3:Online or something like that, because a lot of my friends go to Purdue and Hammond, I think it is. They have class twice, maybe three times a week, I think it is.
Speaker 3:They have class twice, maybe three times a week. If you do that, you just succeed in getting a four-year degree that way and you have plenty of time to be at home to do whatever you want to do. Let's say if it's gaming, let's say if it's make TikToks. You have plenty of time to do that with the only three-day schooling schedule. So I would say, do that minimum At least, then you get an education. Find out what you like and don't like. If this influencer thing doesn't work out and I think there's a lot of people who are influencers now who did do both, and a lot of them who don't do both they're kind of big back when they're 12, 13, 14 years old, like the Paul brothers. They're big when they're like of big back when they're 12, 13, 14 years old.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the paul brothers, they're big when they're like 15 years old even a lot of the vine, like when vine was a thing, you had a lot of popular people and a lot of them did not transition well to youtube or tiktok and a lot of them just fell off and they're gonna be having to get actual jobs now, oh yeah, with no resume, no prior like you know experience, it's a risk, it is, it really is definitely it is high risk, high reward, but I mean, but everyone we see there.
Speaker 2:For one successful person there's probably thousands of others who were successful the same thing as trying to make it big in the major league baseball or or professional sport in general, especially like in baseball, where you have it goes from you play, you know, little league with hundreds of thousands of kids across the country, then you get to high school. Now you're playing with tens of thousands of kids. Then you get to college. That's even. It's like the talent or there's different levels in college and stuff.
Speaker 3:So I mean I mean just like my experience, right like playing soccer. Uh, you know, I started at one of the lowest divisions for club team team. With that team we worked our way up, became one of the top teams in Indiana. We would go to different parts of the country Washington, arizona, nevada go to all these top-ranked tournaments. We would succeed. High school we succeeded pretty well. I was one of the best players on both least like I started. So that means something. I was the captain for both. I only played d3 in college and got a total of like 260 minutes in college of all four years. So that tells you how big that competition is. If me, who was the best, or like not the best, but one of the top players. I'm in high school club on two teams who are pretty big in the state of indiana who succeed outside of the country as well. I'm getting 260 minutes in college out of four years.
Speaker 2:Granted, I probably could have done more, but also just shows how good people are, and that also comes down to if, if you yourself have determined in your head that you are going to be the best at what you do, then the work you put in is going to show a hundred someone who just has just made in their mind that I am going to do whatever it takes to get to the professional level at their sport.
Speaker 2:That means working, doing some kind of drills or working every single day, working harder than the person next to you, compared to someone who loves the sport, is good at it but maybe doesn't want it they don't have like a passion, that next person.
Speaker 3:But now I'll say this even the person who works every day trains like their life depends on it. Of all those people, one percent make it out of that.
Speaker 2:It's the one percent of the one percenters I mean a lot of it is hard work and a lot of it is just comes to natural talent and yeah, for sure. I mean, if you have a little bit of both, then the chances tend to rise in your favor a little bit, but you still?
Speaker 3:gotta think it's millions of people who are trying to get to where you're trying to get to and that's not even just in the uS, it's international too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why it's so hard. And that's why if you don't have that drive at a young age and you go to like senior in high school, you're like you know what I want to play Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1:You're probably a little too late.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's kids that start at like 11 and 12, and that's just it. Like baseball is life. They work out on their own, they're doing drills on their own, they're out there every day. They're the first one there, last one to leave type of work ethic and that's what it takes.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you Do you think a work ethic, do you think people are born with that or do you think that could be taught?
Speaker 2:I believe it could be taught. It's probably going to be responsible and is given the resources. Because if you grew up in a household where it's like laid back or oh, it's okay, you don't have to go to practice today, if you're tired, okay, then yeah, it's gonna be harder for someone to just click in their head that okay, I want to. I really love this sport. I'm gonna do whatever I have to do. A lot of times, especially at younger age, you have to like drag your kids to practice and that's why you get that rare kid who is like already in the car ready to go to practice because he wants to be there, and so I think it could be taught and it has to be kind of like. You have to be in that environment from a little age to kind of get that mentality in your head.
Speaker 3:Well, you see me and Noah, which is my older brother, but we both are 18 months apart. We played on the same team for everything. My mentality when it comes to sports is a lot different than his. We grew up in the same environment, grew up in the same leagues and the same house and the same rules and everything. My mentality nobody, nobody. This is true all the way into high school or not high school college. Nobody had the mentality to push themselves when it comes to running, more than me. It took college for me to find somebody like that, noah. Noah would have to be the one to get dragged to practice. He's crying in the bathroom.
Speaker 2:It also comes down to, as you grow, what interests you in life you in life if no one kind of leans to you know his hobbies more than being an athlete. Well then of course he's only gonna do the bare minimum of going to practice playing games. Maybe he likes playing soccer and that he not to the extent.
Speaker 2:Not to the extent that someone wants to be like this is my life and I'm gonna do what I gotta do to be the best. There's definitely a difference between someone's like I'm gonna be the best at my sport and then there's someone who's I love this game, but half the time I don't want to go. I'd rather hang with my girlfriend or hang with my friends, like there's a night and day in that.
Speaker 3:And then there's also a difference with you know. Let's say, two people love, like the sport, right, they have the passion. They're on that side of the mentality. Now there's two mentalities within that I'm the best or I'm going to work to be the best. So one's like One's being cocky. That comes to natural talent too.
Speaker 2:Some people are just naturally talented to where they could do minimal work. But I think in the long run the person who had to work to be the best will most likely, in the end of their career, will be the hall of famer in that story most of the time well, even if we're not talking about like, pro, like for my team.
Speaker 3:My team had a lot of issues in college, especially two years ago and last year, where the best players on our team had the worst mentality possible, like, oh, I don't know why, you're on the field, shut up, you're not as good as me. And then you have the other people who start and they're like hey, let's go, keep going, keep pushing. So those are two separate mentalities there. One is a team player, one is an individual player, and for me I don't know how much that could be taught or changed.
Speaker 3:Because, in the four years with you know the one or two people who had that mentality of oh, it's all about me. Their mentality never changed. Our coaches tried teaching that mentality but they couldn't.
Speaker 2:Well, and a lot of times too, and I coach baseball, even if it's at a younger age right now. But as a coach you can have player A who's just a stud.
Speaker 2:You know, hits line, drives home runs, has a killer arm, but he's a dick to his teammates. Killer arm, but he's a dick to his teammates. Yeah, and then you'll have someone. You'll have player b who is pretty good, does the basics, knows the game, uh, hits a pretty good ball, but he is a team leader, picks his teammates up. I would, in my opinion, eight out of ten times I think a coach would rather have player B than player A, because a player A who's going to be toxic for the team? And if you lose, if you're just going to bring your team down, you're going to just have a bad experience. And I tell my kids that I coach all the time. I'd rather lose every single game. But you guys understand leadership, being a team player, learning the game, getting better than going undefeated, and half my team are dickheads.
Speaker 3:I mean it teaches them a lot longer to just outside of baseball, I mean it teaches them no longer to just outside of baseball, I mean it teaches them life skills to you know. Be a team leader to try staying positive even when you know the energy is down. You know going through hard stuff. Keep pushing through. It teaches them good habits.
Speaker 2:Because someone who just gives their kid everything they want and says yes all the time when they get into an environment where they're not winning and they're not getting the praise or if they're not getting their results they want, they're just a big baby because they've. They've never been told no or they never had to work get to a level that most people have to do to to win a game or become a team. You know so for sure. I definitely. But that that is a good question as far as if that mentality can be taught and I I think it could be taught, but it's you have to do it at such a young age oh yeah, and you're 14 years old, ready to go to high school, and you're like.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Can it happen yeah, anything can happen.
Speaker 2:you could be a mediocre player until you get to high school and then if something switches in your head and you just go balls out and every day you're in the cage, every day you're taking ground balls and oh yeah you'll, you'll turn it around.
Speaker 2:You have a shorter period to show that you could play college ball, but it could happen in the household. Because if if you never get pushed to do anything, then where do you get the mental drive to do it? And that's what kind of sucks like with me growing up. Um, you know, our mother was for a lot of years a single mother, especially before you got she was never single in me.
Speaker 2:knowing her, I know but before she met Roman, roman, she raised me and Christian with the help of, of course, our grandma. When you get parents like that who have to work all the time, parents like that who have to work all the time, and you know she, she pushed me to to do sports and stay busy and stay out of trouble, but I never had that push to really succeed in, like one certain aspect or one sport like baseball and like I love baseball and at a young age I was good and good enough to play high school, not good enough to play college ball.
Speaker 2:But I, I go back and think like I wasn't in the batting cages every day yeah, I wasn't in the workout room every day Like I, like I wish I could go back and tell myself or just go back in the past, Like like look, we're going to go hit off the tee for 15 minutes and then we're going to work on our throw downs for 15 minutes. Like I wish I had that mentality and I wish I had that drive. And you know, mom she's, she did what she did. You know she could do. She didn't play baseball, she didn't play softball.
Speaker 2:When she was a kid she didn't have that mentality, she was just trying to survive and and there's no money, like there was an extra money to where she got hired somebody exactly exactly so it's like I envy my oldest son so much now because he has all these resources to be good and he is good and like, and I tell him all the time, like when he's in batting cages at practice, I'm like dude, you're 10 years old and you've probably had more swings in your 10 years of living that I have had in my entire life Because I never had private lessons, I never did anything extra outside of baseball, never did any of the travel ball stuff where we worked out in the winter Like he's got all these massive resources to him.
Speaker 2:I wish I had that and I'm hoping at some point he gets that drive to want to be the best in the country. He's not quite there yet, because he's a typical kid.
Speaker 3:He's a kid. He wants to play video games, especially all the stuff that we got today. There's so many things that could distract him.
Speaker 2:And I'll take some of the fault too. I'm not always pushing him like I should be or like I I think about in my head. Like you know, I could be probably just like really hard on. I'm like, look, we're going out every day, but then I get scared, like I don't want to, not want to play baseball yeah, right, can you imagine he's like 16 and he's done with it and then like his childhood was gone because he all he did like 16 and he's done with it and then like his childhood, was gone, because all
Speaker 2:he did was baseball, and that's my scare is that I want to push him and put him all these training because I want him to be 10 times better than what I was and I want him to play high school ball. I want him to play college ball and of course I want him to go to the majors, obviously. But I'd be happy if he played college ball and of course I want him to go to the majors, obviously.
Speaker 2:But I'd be happy if he played college ball, like, even if it was like a d1, d2, even juco, like yeah, I would love that for him, but I can't play for him and I can't train for him he has to want to do it, he has to want the drive to be the best and to make it to the level. And right now he doesn't have a quite that because, like I said, he rather play fortnight or he rather go hang out with his friends, which is it's it's natural.
Speaker 2:It's natural but it's that person that ends up going to the majors and that person who just plays Little League and nothing else after high school. That's the two main differences. You have a kid who wants to be there, has a goal and will do everything he can to get there, and you have a kid who just likes playing baseball but just doesn't have that drive to do it?
Speaker 3:I mean like talking. I guess it's good to mention that me and your half-brothers were what? 15 years apart in age, so my dad was able to get me like lessons, get me training all throughout and, thinking back, I hated it. I didn't want to do it, I didn't want to do the workouts, I didn't want to put in the extra work and I still made it to D3 college, right. But looking back, I do wish I did more.
Speaker 3:It's always but at the same time, I don't regret it, right Like I don't regret that I didn't do more, I am happy it's. At the same time, I don't regret it, right Like I don't regret that I didn't do more, I am happy, Like well.
Speaker 2:It's just one of the things is like well, if I did do more. I might have been playing D2 or D1. But you know, you live and learn.
Speaker 3:It's just part of the life experience. I never thought I'd go pro. You know, my goal was never to go pro. My goal was just to play as long as I can and have the best time I can.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, I mean, it's one thing if you said I want to go pro and then have the career you had, and then now you're just beating yourself up because you're like why I should have worked harder, I should have done. But if your goal was what your goal was and you met your goal, then by all means you're happy. You know, and that's all. That's all that matters, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I definitely think that what team you get placed on is a big part of it too, because I'll say, for two years in college I kind of wanted to quit just because of the mentality that our team had. Overall, you could also said to yourself like, look, I wanna, I'm gonna work twice as hard, I'm gonna try to transfer out and go somewhere else, like that was an option it was, but also wabash is known to be a really good school, so I don't know how much you know about wabash, but like we, have.
Speaker 3:Also, wabash is known to be a really good school, so I don't know how much you know about wabash, but like we have, or, wabash is the second best alumni network in the country. Yeah, uh, the median wage, uh, for a mid-career is 150 000 dollars.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying like at any point in any from when you're 10 years old to halfway through college you always have that opportunity to be like look, I'm going to work like I've never worked before, because now my goal is to get to that level and it's on me to get to that level.
Speaker 3:That might have been a different story. But me being D3, getting okay minutes my first year, a little less. Second year after putting in work and being told I'm improving each year and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing, after three years being told that and my third year not playing at all, it was more. So my mentality went to just you know what? You have a year and a half left, just have fun with it, enjoy as much as you can. So that that became my mentality.
Speaker 3:Um, not upset about it, just I enjoyed my final year. Honestly, it was probably the most fun I ever had in college, just because all my stress was gone, like I wasn't stressing about playing, I wasn't stressing about impressing the coach, I just played my version of soccer and honestly, I think it was the best I've ever played and I enjoyed it. I definitely think it was the best year that I had for soccer. Even though I didn't play at all, even though I barely dressed, it was my best year and it was my most favorite year. So I mean, it's all situational in my opinion, but yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2:It was a fun experience I mean in 10 years from now. If you're able to look back in your college years and say, you know, I had a good time, I don't have any regrets, then yeah, then you did something right, then yeah yeah, because a lot of people, a lot of people tend to just let regret, just tear them down, oh yeah can't move on because they're too busy living in the past and it's not a help healthy way?
Speaker 3:oh no, not at all at it all, right.
Speaker 2:Um, moving away from the whole school talk, I got another question. I'm curious on what your answer will be, and I thought of this question just because I knew you were coming over. If you woke up tomorrow as a woman and just for some reason, a sign on your mirror said you will be a woman for a whole 24 hours.
Speaker 3:What am I doing first?
Speaker 2:What are you doing?
Speaker 1:first it's okay. What are you doing? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I really let's see.
Speaker 2:I guess Are you going to masturbate.
Speaker 3:I don't know if it would be the first thing I did, but it would be on the list it would probably be on the list. I mean, everyone wonders how it feels for the other gender.
Speaker 1:Would you get it? I would not. Would you have sex? I would not. Would you have sex? I would not.
Speaker 3:You know what I would probably do. I'd probably message one of my friends Come over and smash no, no, no, I wouldn't do that I would lead them on Uh-huh and then, like right before, I'll say something to where they'll know that it's me and know that it's me, and then they'll look at me, be like how'd you, how'd you know?
Speaker 2:that I'm like it's me it's kobe, and then I want to see how they spend half your day exactly, I feel like that would be so funny because nobody would believe them no, no one, no one would believe you because, I mean, you would literally be transformed into what would I, what I kind of look like myself, still Would I have like some qualities to where I mean your personality will stay the same. Yeah, personality.
Speaker 3:But I'm talking about looks Like if you saw me, would I?
Speaker 2:look like a sister to myself. Yeah, I would say you would look like a sister to yourself.
Speaker 3:I don't think my friends would fall for it then.
Speaker 2:You don't think so. I mean like you, just grew like long ass, like bleach blonde hair.
Speaker 3:Oh god, I don't know what I would do, honestly, because I mean what? What besides like touch your own boobs and masturbate like what? What else are you gonna do you?
Speaker 2:you wouldn't want to know what it feels.
Speaker 3:I would not know.
Speaker 2:I'm why not, it's a one in a lifetime yeah, it's sure, but it's like, who like you?
Speaker 3:who are you gonna want to look at for the rest of your life? It takes like no effort for women to get like no, literally go to that bar that night and have a one night stand yeah, and then you live the rest of your life. So they can damn. I really let some dude do that to me.
Speaker 2:But you were a woman. It's not like you let some dude penetrate your butthole.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not much of a difference. I mean, you're still.
Speaker 2:It's totally different.
Speaker 3:I mean what, just even now, like when it comes to to gender, it's whatever Somebody feels that they are. If just cause I turn a woman Doesn't mean I'm not gonna feel Like a dude still we're not talking about Mental health.
Speaker 2:We're talking about you magically Transform into a woman?
Speaker 3:I would still feel like a dude. You have a vagina, yeah, but I would know that I'm a dude at heart. I'm not gonna be Like what. Then I'm have to act like I'm at least into it, like you're gonna act like you're into a dude. No, no you don't.
Speaker 2:You don't have to look at the dude, you could just lay there and take it so you just keep the lights off so you're gonna go to somebody, be like you want to have sex, just straight face, no flirting.
Speaker 3:They say, yeah, you just go with them yeah I'll go back to their place.
Speaker 2:That's why you would die. That's why you would die first in a zombie apocalypse, because this is your curiosity. That's one in a lifetime opportunity. Just go get pegged. No, that's different. Are you really?
Speaker 3:comparing pegging to vaginal penetration. You wouldn't know, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:Okay so you can't make the assumption that I'm not saying that it feels the same.
Speaker 3:It'd probably be more satisfying because they do say that G-spot's three inches up your ass, so it might be more satisfying for you as a guy. Go try it.
Speaker 2:If you're willing to try that as a woman, you're willing to try it as a guy, but at that point I know it's a guy on guy At least if I'm a woman, I'm a woman, it's pegging. I'm a woman.
Speaker 3:It could be a woman.
Speaker 2:Oh well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, Exactly.
Speaker 3:Oh, now you're into it. Now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2:Now you're like we're going to get one. I don't think I would have, even in a life-threatening situation, if someone put a gun to my head and said you got to take one up the ass. I don't know if I would just like okay, okay, do it. I think I would have to ponder on it. Okay, let me ask you this, that's hard.
Speaker 3:$10,000 per backshot, how many are you taking?
Speaker 2:$10,000? Yeah, per. So that way, okay. So just so I'm clear. So when you say backshot, Okay, let's just.
Speaker 3:Every time they thrust, every time they thrust it's $10,000. Oh, so for every thrust.
Speaker 2:Every thrust. They don't have to finish. They don't have to.
Speaker 3:But I mean it's like if you start something, how are you not going to finish?
Speaker 2:it, so I could rack up like a hundred.
Speaker 3:You could go all the way up to a million bucks, if you wanted to. It depends how much you want to take Dude $10,000 a thrust. Oh, but for your life. You couldn't do it Because it's just like $10,000, you're debating on how many you take. But for your life, for your kids, for your family.
Speaker 2:I'm legitimately thinking like would I do it for $10,000? And then how many thrusts would I take to set myself up? Dude, because I guess it would have to depend on the size.
Speaker 3:These are the questions you gotta ask.
Speaker 1:Of course I don't know man.
Speaker 2:Let's say it's so hard to you.
Speaker 3:See, I don't know about you, but in like you see porn, and I was in high school before.
Speaker 2:Come on, god like some of that stuff is rough and then you know, and it's, oh my god, and you, they act like. They like it because they have to, because it's it's it's porn. You, you would act.
Speaker 1:Hey for $10,000 each.
Speaker 3:I'll do whatever they want. They want me to act like I like it. You know what?
Speaker 2:How many thrusts will you take Realistically? So 10 thrusts is $100,000.
Speaker 3:I'll take 100 thrusts, I think I could handle 10.
Speaker 2:Once you get to that 10 thrust, I'm like, okay, I think I could handle 10. I think once it got to that 10th rust, okay, okay, I'm done 100k, give it to me that's but 100k.
Speaker 3:That's a lot, but it's not like something that can set you up pretty well, right so it's like if you're going for it, you might as well go to like where it's worth it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, like 500 like, just like, like a million, like I mean you.
Speaker 3:You gotta think, though, like if you're you don't start something and not finish it, like how long could the guy go for? I bet I'll last him like oh no we're gonna.
Speaker 2:We're gonna assume there's a line of guys, oh god, just they take one each.
Speaker 3:It's just oh god yeah, well, a one in a ten chance that they have something oh, I know right, I didn't even think about that no, all right, let's assume they're clean let's say this is it's a professional setting, everyone's clean everyone's signed contracts, everyone's got their test no I don't, I don't know that's. It's tough because it's tough. You can leave with a million dollars or you can leave with your dignity. It's one or the other.
Speaker 2:Would anybody know About this? Like is this going to be Publicly?
Speaker 3:Let's say it's one person who does it to you. They can talk if they want. They can talk if they want, oh God, they could talk if they want, but If there's no, video. Let's say there's no video. Okay, but let's say no video. But everyone hears the rumors and they don't know about the money you made. Oh, they don't know about the money?
Speaker 2:No, but you could tell them. You could tell them about the money and then if I walk out there with like $500,000.
Speaker 3:If you start rolling around in the new Tesla they're going to know you got a good deal.
Speaker 2:But you always have that chance of what's that plausibility? Is it plausibility or deniability? I guess these are the.
Speaker 3:Would you rather eat a cake and sign a?
Speaker 1:dick or sign a cake or a dick. No, I'd eat all this shit.
Speaker 3:Those are the questions you got to ask. What has this conversation gotten to? I don't know. I don't know what kind of question was that?
Speaker 2:Oh, because we talked about if you were a woman.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's right. How do we?
Speaker 2:If we go back to that question. If we go back to that question, I think I would be curious enough to see how vaginal penetration would be and we could end it right there, but I would admit good for you.
Speaker 3:I also learned that you wouldn't take it to save your life, but you'd take it for $100,000. I think I would be in a more distressful that you wouldn't take it to save your life, but you'd take it for $100,000.
Speaker 2:That's what's crazy to me. I think I would be in a more distressful.
Speaker 3:Oh, so you want to enjoy it as much as possible, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2:But it's more like someone's giving me an opportunity to make money, rather than put me in a scenario where you die or you take this.
Speaker 3:I don't know, Hold on, hold on. So you're the $20 is $20 type of guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 3:I guess. So oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean, it is what it is. Sometimes you got to make money the way you got to make money. Oh my God, if I could set myself up and my family up for a while, pay debts off, buy a new house, be debt free, I think I could endure five minutes. Whatever you can get done in five minutes.
Speaker 3:Yup, yup, yup, yup. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:But another question I want to ask you. I think this would be a cool one I was thinking about this earlier. If you could fake your own death, what would be your crazy exiting story? Like the whole point of faking your death is to have a crazy story. So what, what do you think your crazy story would be?
Speaker 3:I think that I would get famous for something, I don't know what, probably some sort of influencing situation we're just saying like right now, or like what kind of death?
Speaker 2:Oh, right now, like right now, let's just say tomorrow, you fake your death as you.
Speaker 3:So the crazy like. What kind of crazy death would I have?
Speaker 2:But you could make up your own death story and it would be true.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I thought you were saying, like, what would lead up to you faking your death?
Speaker 2:Okay, it's like like, oh, colby died and it was why. How did he die your? What will your story be?
Speaker 3:man, I honestly I probably fake my death by dying in a helicopter crash, just so people are like, wow, it happened to two different colby's.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's messed up that is hey people, people would talk about it and I would make national news In the same area.
Speaker 3:Same spot. Second Kobe died. Tell me that wouldn't make crazy headline news. What are the chances Exactly? I feel like that's crazier than somebody saying, oh, he got pushed into a volcano. I feel like another Kobe died in a helicopter crash Same spot. I think that's crazier.
Speaker 2:No, I mean, I guess I didn't think about that.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you're faking your own death, you want it to be believable.
Speaker 2:So it's like I'm just saying like, whatever you say people, I'm saying whatever you say people are going to believe what happened.
Speaker 3:Okay, I suffocated to death while she was sitting on my face.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that could be one.
Speaker 3:There's so many memes going around saying like using that as an example, and everybody saying like I respect that, I respect that. I mean he took it. You know how many high fives people give each other? No it realistically if I were to choose my own death. Just to make it sound badass, I feel like every like guy has thought about this. But like sacrificing yourself for like the greater good of something like you were protecting a child yeah, like something crazy like that.
Speaker 3:I feel like a death, like that people would like put so much respect on your name, so what would your story be?
Speaker 2:okay, so you're a hero. What did you do to become a hero?
Speaker 3:I let's see never really go ahead and think about it. That's kind of a complex question, it's like there's a lot of scenarios. Yeah, there's a lot, but it's like what tragedy do I want to stop? Like you know, if I could go back in time, I'd deter 9-11. I'd stop a plane hijacking. That would be dope.
Speaker 2:We're just saying tomorrow the real world. What's going on? Kobe passed away, oh my God. And he passed away because he pulled a child off a high-speed train. No, that's not cool enough. A high-speed train? I don't know.
Speaker 3:A high-speed train? No, that's not cool enough. A high-speed train? I don't know A high-speed train. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Hey, they got bullet trained, so come at me.
Speaker 3:Kobe climbed a burning building. Okay To no, that's not cool enough.
Speaker 2:You climb like on the outside. Yeah, on the outside I scaled a skyscraper in Chicago.
Speaker 3:No, like, stop in some sort of shooting and like it results in taking your own life, but yeah, everyone else is saved. How many lives did you save? Let's say it was at like a mall or something, or okay.
Speaker 2:yeah, so potentially huh, so you had your own no, no, no, that's, that's what makes it cool.
Speaker 3:You just run out, grab the gun barehanded. Shit bought enough time now. Did you kill the?
Speaker 2:the shooter, or yeah?
Speaker 3:let's say he, he like, shoots me twice, but somehow I still wrestle the gun away from him.
Speaker 1:I get him.
Speaker 3:Now I'm laying down, I'm being carried out to the ambulance, everyone's looking Okay, so you died on the way to the hospital. Yeah, they see me being carried out and they all see it's all clapping. They would have a memorial. Exactly, you know how well, that well, I guess they can't see. Well, we're talking about faking it. We can't really fake that.
Speaker 2:No, but you could still be on the you'll be on the news for weeks.
Speaker 3:You'll have a whole memorial Exactly Each year somebody will mention it.
Speaker 2:They'll name a building after you. They'll probably have a scholarship after you. That'd be a cool way to go out.
Speaker 3:You know how I would want to go.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna regret asking how it's not as crazy as you think I would want them to say. I would want them to say that I died wrestling a gorilla, a silver bag gorilla, and I actually took that gorilla down. But in the process of taking him down I got beaten so badly that I died. But that gorilla will never be the same because his dignity will be hurt.
Speaker 3:So the gorilla survived. So in the end, the gorilla survived and you just died.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the gorilla survived. But I jumped in that cage because I was saving a four-year-old.
Speaker 3:Okay, so this is you versus Harambe is what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, but I took that gorilla down, I saved that kid. He got the best of me. He killed me, which okay, but I took him down, broke his arm, busted his jaw and hurt his dignity.
Speaker 3:I don't think the gorilla really has dignity that he cares about why he sees the smaller person or animal and gorilla's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:I'm the king of the jungle baby. That's a lion saint, but it don't matter, he's the, he's, he's king, shit clearly he wasn't that good if he's in a cage. Don't, don't, don't, don't, Listen. Your death is a lame death. All right, my story.
Speaker 3:It's lame.
Speaker 2:I took on a silverback gorilla and lost those. Things are like 1,300 pounds, 8 feet tall, and I took one down.
Speaker 1:I should have killed him, but you didn't, but I didn't.
Speaker 2:So you failed, but that four-year-old is alive because of my heroic maneuvers.
Speaker 3:No, I don't. That's just lame. That's lame. That's a lame way to go out.
Speaker 2:Not even getting it Like killing it. It's my way, though you have your way. I have my lame. That's a lame way to go out.
Speaker 3:Not even killing it, it's my way, though you have your way, I have my way. It's the wrong way. But lame Silverback grill, why not grizzly bear, brown bear, that'd be a lot cooler, oh dude.
Speaker 2:I think it's more realistic yeah okay, yeah, all right, sure. Realistic. Realistic to take, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, realistic, hey, but um, that one guy that leonardo dicaprio played you know what movie I'm talking about where he didn't take on a grizzly bear but he survived a grizzly bear attack. You know what movie I'm talking about? No, fuck, it's um, I can't remember the name, but you have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:None it was a movie and it was based on a real person, like back in the frontier days and I guess he survived a grizzly bear attack and he healed himself up and it was a long journey type of movie. Did it recently come out? No, it was. Okay. Now you're going to have to make me look it up, leonardo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 2:I can't believe.
Speaker 3:The only thing that I remember about a bear is in Grey's Anatomy. There was a situation where they're attacked by a bear and it caught its guts out Revenant. What the Revenant? No, that sounds familiar, but I've never seen it Literally.
Speaker 2:One of the first things that comes up was the Revenant bear scene real, and I just about to make myself look like a fool because it says no real bear, oh wait. Hold on it says no real bear was used in making of the scene, instead a combination of a stuntman. But I'm trying to figure out. Did it really happen?
Speaker 3:I'm sure there's a situation like that. I don't know, brown bear, you just got to run for your life. Fight as much as you can, but brown bears, those things are crazy.
Speaker 2:And I saw something. Okay, real quick, and we'll end it off this question, and it's a legitimate question.
Speaker 3:If you were in the sea and you have a the sea, the sea, the ocean, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you see a shark. It could be hammerhead.
Speaker 3:A shark's a shark.
Speaker 2:A shark is a shark. What, in your opinion? What do you do if you're just floating in the water and you see a shark coming at you? What is your first instinct to do?
Speaker 3:Don't swim away from it. Okay, uh, you would want to look at like where it's coming from, but you get like there's a supposed. Supposedly you could easily like deter them by like you. If they're like swimming at you, you put your hand on their nose and redirect, and and redirect them. That's what I've seen happen, but do you?
Speaker 2:think in that moment that you're going to be calm and not swim away. I feel like your first instinct would be to swim.
Speaker 3:That's hard. It is hard. I don't think I'd ever go on water where there could be sharks. I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared of the ocean.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, me too. I've been to California and Florida and stuff.
Speaker 3:I don't think I'd swim in that.
Speaker 2:I would never go past the buoys.
Speaker 3:Even then, most attacks don't happen past the buoys. Have you seen overhead aerial?
Speaker 1:shots of the water. Well, those buoys go out fucking far.
Speaker 3:Have you seen overhead aerial shots of the water, I know, but have you seen the overhead shots?
Speaker 2:You just see a bunch of sharks swimming around, because there's been cases where sharks have just come more shallow than they have in the past. So yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I'd have composure. It's hard to say I would like to think I have the composure for that, knowing that swimming away.
Speaker 2:But if you see a fucking fin on top of the water, and then you go under the water and you see this massive-ass shark. It's like that's what that? But you were right. They say don't swim away because you'll mimic other planes, Like you know, animals or something mimic, like they're playing like you know animal or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then it says stay on your ground, look at the shark and then, if it comes at you, you're supposed to either reach for the gill or try to gouge an eye out or hit its nose, but I feel like if you're gonna plan to do that, there's a high percentage he's gonna get a bite in you yeah 100, but it's like if you are able to get those spots, he'll let you go quickly, but you're still getting mauled by a fucking shark, I mean, and not, not, not even just that, but you're also being drug underwater.
Speaker 3:You know, oxygen you're drowning, essentially while being bit, while having to fight a shark.
Speaker 2:So I'm I am legitimately frightened of the ocean yeah, and I, I hate the ocean like. What's your thoughts on cruises?
Speaker 3:they.
Speaker 2:I don't mind being on a cruise as long as I'm not by the edge once I like, look over I'm thinking of all the like possibilities and have you seen videos of at night on a cruise, when it's like not all the lights are off, but a lot of the attractions and stuff, like if you look out into the ocean it's literally pitch black. Oh yeah, people, people fall over. And it's like, if you fall over, how that you're not gonna be found no, I mean there has been situations where they do find you.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was in the middle of the night. No, middle of the night is a whole different story.
Speaker 2:Because you got to think that big-ass boat, it's going to take several minutes for it to turn around.
Speaker 3:I think they would drop a smaller boat to go get you and then be brought back up, but still that's.
Speaker 2:That's like if it's middle of the day, everybody's around and someone Dude the waves alone.
Speaker 3:Not to mention you're figuring out what's under you.
Speaker 2:You don't know what's under you.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, but recently there was a video. I don't think it was a cruise, I think it was just like a party boat or something. Kid was drunk nighttime he jumps in the water never found, dude, stupid, and it's hard to feel sorry in those situations because it's like you recorded it happening. Yeah, you were. You knew what you're doing. Even if you're drunk, you knew what you're doing to be able to record it and do that like it's your own.
Speaker 2:Stupid decisions led to it I think the same way I'm with haunted houses I can't go into one. What I would be? The same way with cruises I would refuse to go why can't you go to haunted house?
Speaker 2:dude, you don't know this story. No, oh, my God, we're going to add like another 15 minutes. Dude, like I blame our mother for this, she took us when I was little probably I'm trying to think how old I was, Maybe Alonzo's age seven years old, seven, eight years old Went to a haunted house. Like I was already scared to go in there and I just remember hanging on to mom like, eyes closed, yelling get me out of, get me out of here. And I still have like little pieces of flashback memory of certain things walking through that haunted house and ever since then I've never stepped foot into another haunted house.
Speaker 3:So nothing ever really happened. You just went to a haunted house when you were too young.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was traumatized. I won't do it. That's crazy. I won't step into Jessica, my wife. She's tried to get me. I'm sure I think mom has tried to get me to go. I've been invited, but I can't do it like I literally can't do it.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, like you would have scary movies.
Speaker 2:I could do scary movies all day so it's not, it's the experience yeah walking through like I'm 30 something years old, I know haunted houses are fake. Yeah, I know they can't touch you, they can't physically harm you, like I know all these restrictions, but you're just scared, can't do it. That's crazy. I'm scarred.
Speaker 3:I'm scarred from it I don't get how I don't know either, especially with you being so young. It's like I feel like you would outgrow that.
Speaker 2:Nope, it's something that's just been stuck, and it's not like I have night terrors. It's not like I suffer from.
Speaker 3:Anxiety. It's just one bad experience.
Speaker 2:And I just don't want to experience it again.
Speaker 3:You know my my did that to me in a way. Me and noah, they we're at. I want to say six flags. This was when I was younger didn't ride roller coasters, they wanted to go on the log ride and they're like oh, it's just a simple ride.
Speaker 3:They didn't tell us there was a drop. So we went through the whole thing and I'm like is there a drop up here? They didn't say nothing. There was just a big drop, scared me, did not trust them after that. Whenever they said, no, it's not a roller coaster, I wouldn't believe them.
Speaker 1:It was messed up.
Speaker 3:Now I love roller coasters though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know what, and it might be one of those things where if I go to a haunted house, I might end up like kind of liking it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like if you just tough it out.
Speaker 2:Like the hard part is just going in there right, but I can't like I haven't even come close to, like, an entrance of a haunted house. I just physically have not taken myself to a haunted house because I just I can't do it. And it's the same thing with a cruise. You cannot pay me to go on a cruise really I I can't, I can't do it. I think with the cruise, I think I have more anxiety being in open water because I have I have a fear of kind of like the unknown yeah of the ocean and I, it just I.
Speaker 3:I don't think I could enjoy myself once you feel like the boat swaying back and forth so like, are you fine on planes?
Speaker 2:I'm fine on planes. Oh, Like, even like, when we went to Florida we did the parasailing.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they take you on this motorboat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and they put you there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I could still see the shore from the ground.
Speaker 3:You're fine with that.
Speaker 2:I'm fine with that Really? Like in a situation where I'm like we capsize, like if I could see the shore, I think I could, I could swim there without having like anxiety yeah, but if that thing comes undone, you have like the tarp over you and you're harnessed in. But just something about the open sea, where you see nothing but water and you're hundreds of miles away from the nearest orline or like on the rigs.
Speaker 3:Have you seen the videos when they're on the rigs? Have you played?
Speaker 2:There's a game called Still Wake in the Deep. No, it's a computer game and it's called Chinese Room, but it's a horror game based on a rig and you hit something in the water and just shit goes straight chaos on it. It's like a first person, first person person, person person game. It's one of those games where you just kind of like run hide and do minimal interaction. It's not like a shooting game or anything, but it's like gives you anxiety and it's it's very well made. But speaking of like on a rig where you're 100 miles away it's a real fear.
Speaker 3:It's a real, genuine fear, like so I'm not, I'm not, I don't like my. I don't have that many fears, but the ocean is one of them. I like cruise ships. I'll be okay with see that's. You're a braver looking over the edge. I don't know about that. I'm cool at heights, uh, like at six flags they have like that where you go all the way up in the air and they drop you, I could do.
Speaker 2:I could do heights. Like you know, heights aren't bad. We're talking about skydiving. Yeah, I go skydiving, but no, the like actual fears it ocean is probably like I legitimately get like nervous when I go to the beach, especially like the ocean, like we were in florida, like if I step on something that doesn't feel like sand or rocks I get like a little uh even lake michigan.
Speaker 2:I don't like going too far out there me either like like I'd be damn if a big ass fish come and rubs against my leg, or undercurrents like that just sweep you all the way out like you're supposed to swim sideways.
Speaker 3:But, dude, if I or um, we're the ones that actually pull you under, oh, dude, yeah like those, those are crazy. But yeah, the water, water like powerful water, no, yeah so.
Speaker 3:Tsunami is the worst natural disaster in my opinion. I'd rather be through a. Do you think so? I think so, like realistically, if you don't evacuate and it's a bad, like a pretty bad tsunami, yeah, you're. So you're dead like earthquake, like we structure buildings to handle that, especially if they're in areas where earthquakes are known to be, yeah, tsunamis. You can't prepare for that tornadoes. As long as it's not like a category five or four, you should be okay yeah, and then I always think about it too.
Speaker 2:I'm like why do people live in those places? In those places like your insurance has to be so high, your premium has to be so high, and like people like in the philippines and like other countries yeah, that's a little.
Speaker 3:You know that's different, I understand that, but it's like. But if you live, live in like Tornado Valley or whatever whatever they call it like Death. Valley in like the Midwest. Why? Why would you risk?
Speaker 2:Why does anybody live on the coast Like it's?
Speaker 3:Like Florida.
Speaker 2:Those hurricanes that's what I'm saying. Like, your premiums on your insurance have to be through the roof, because you're gonna get everything like covered yeah, if that tsunami or hurricane comes and swipes everything in your house like you gotta be covered, oh yeah, but I don't know people live there and people continue to move out there and I mean our biggest warrior tornadoes um they're, they're man, they're very mild they are like a tornado, I think technically touched down in crown point yeah I don't know, yeah, yeah, anyway, it's like one touchdown technically, but all it was was very strong winds.
Speaker 3:I think one person actually did die because a tree went through their house. That's a freak accident. But other than that, I think there was a tornado that touched down in Gary or East Chicago or something, but they're barely Category 1 tornadoes. But if you live in a place where, oh, every week, category two, category three, I think I give you that tsunamis are probably the worst, because I think they're the most terrifying to be part of. I think floods you got winds, you got water yeah, I mean debris.
Speaker 3:I mean then you think of all the animals that get pushed over and you, you know you got sharks some places, crocodiles, that's true, just no tsunamis. Can you imagine? Just looking out to sea, you see something coming 100-foot wave coming at you.
Speaker 2:That's my anxiety right there.
Speaker 3:That's ridiculous Like earthquakes. It's scary Like you see things moving, yeah, that's ridiculous Like earthquakes. It's scary Like you see things moving, yeah, but if you know that skyscrapers in those areas are made to withstand it, it puts you at ease a little bit. It's scary, but it's nothing like a tsunami have you seen those.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they're prototypes or if they actually have them made actually have them made but for people who live in areas where um earthquakes are frequent, they have like you have your bed and it like a pod like a pod where it closes and it like, it's like reinforced steel and you just fall in this pod and you just like that that's smart, but can you?
Speaker 3:the average person's not gonna go for that, they're not gonna be able smart, but can you imagine the average person is not going to go for that? They're not going to be able to. And can you imagine if it's a heavier set person, how big, like you, would need it to be, can you?
Speaker 2:imagine if it, if you have to use it, and then it crushes your floor and then well, now I gotta or like what if nobody finds you in time right? Like what feels so bad and all the debris. I can assume you can open it from the inside.
Speaker 3:Yeah but what if there's so much stuff on top of you?
Speaker 2:You open it and it all falls in, you're right. I mean they probably got windows or something. I'm sure there's protocols for GPS or emergency lines in there or something.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's got to be scary to even be in that you might wake up and then enclosed and you're hearing rumbling out there. Oh God you're hearing rumbling out there. Oh god, the natural disasters are crazy, but even like with tornadoes, it's one thing to like oh my god, look at that tornado it's another to be like.
Speaker 3:It's dark, no idea where the tornado is yeah, no idea when it's about to hit, because when we're thinking like a tornado might happen, we're all standing outside looking at the clouds, seeing where it is. When it's dark out, don't go outside, just be safe rather than sorry, but I love tornadoes.
Speaker 2:I love the weather. Let's end the podcast on that. Fuck haunted houses.
Speaker 3:Fuck the ocean.
Speaker 2:Fuck natural disasters we're taking back shots. Hey, we got to feed our kids. But thanks for coming on. Tell friends let them listen to the podcast. Try to get it out there as much as you can and then appreciate you coming on yeah, for sure. All right man, thank you, thank you, love you, kid.