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Dealing with Daddy Issues w/ Aaron Herrera

Charles Campos Jr

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Ever wondered how young fathers navigate the maze of parenthood while dealing with their own father issues? Join me, Charles Campos Jr., and my friend Aaron Herrera, as we unpack our personal stories of becoming fathers at a tender age while recalling our own issues we had with our fathers growing up. Together, we share both the comedic and challenging sides of raising children. Our conversations touch on the transformation from being nervous novices to confident parents, striving to instill values in our kids, all while juggling the complexities of our own father-son dynamics. 

Have you ever questioned whether having an absent father is less damaging than having one who is emotionally unavailable? In a heartfelt dialogue, we dissect the emotional impacts of our paternal relationships, highlighting the cultural expectations that often stifle emotional expression among Hispanic men. I open up about my own struggles with an absent biological father and the subsequent journey of acceptance with a supportive stepfather. Through these reflections, we shed light on the importance of acknowledging those who genuinely support us and the crucial role of therapy in understanding past decisions and fostering personal growth.

Curious about the mysterious drones hovering in the Northeast, or looking for your next anime binge? We've got you covered. Aaron and I dive into the intriguing phenomena of unexplained drone sightings and explore the influence of media and anime. From the mysterious allure of "One Punch Man" to the action-packed "Seven Deadly Sins," we share our top recommendations. We also navigate the realm of folklore with tales of Krampus, discuss dating preferences, and ponder the traits of an ideal partner. Wrap up your listening experience with insights on personal growth, relationship communication, and a taste of our future podcasting adventures.

Speaker 1:

As a saying goes, it ain't cocky if you back it up. This is Confident, not Cocky the show where bold conversations meet relatable real-life experiences. Hosted by Charles Campos Jr, this podcast brings you everything from the latest trends in news to personal stories that make you laugh, reflect and maybe even get a little emotional. Whether it's Charles flying solo or chopping it up with special guests, nothing's off the table and it's always straight talk, real and raw, no filter. So get ready for a ride that's as fun as it is real. This is Confident, not Cocky, and this is your host, charles Campos Jr.

Speaker 2:

Alright, welcome back everyone. Glad to be back at it again, ready to go. Got another special guest here, my good friend and my ride or die. Yeah, maybe, hopefully. Go ahead and introduce yourself. You could just give first name, last name, if you want to give a quick brief description, awesome, if not, just go ahead introduce yourself?

Speaker 4:

okay, cool, cool. Uh, name's aaron hurrah and really, yeah, just chill, shy kind of in a purse never done this before, so something new and hopefully, uh, you get a decent amount of views for this, because I think so because your, uh, your voice is so soft and sensual right now.

Speaker 2:

I I feel like you're gonna have a lot penny droppers out there listening to that voice I doubt it.

Speaker 4:

They're gonna be like yeah, who's that little girl you put on this show?

Speaker 2:

like jesus Jesus man, no man, it sounds good. Like I said in my headphones, you sound very mysterious. You're just a chill guy.

Speaker 4:

Chill guy, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

So we've known each other for how long now?

Speaker 4:

How long has it been Damn eight years, eight years, seven, eight, seven, eight years, eight years, seven, eight, seven, eight years roughly man time flies dude, time fucking flies for sure, especially when you you and your kids you actually start seeing the ages yeah, because you have three kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and how old are you, how old are your kids?

Speaker 4:

my oldest is six, the middle one is five and, uh, the youngest is gonna be two so you got a pretty spread out, but yeah yeah, the oldest in the middle a little bit closer, but my youngest, yeah, it was split up, actually just turned three yeah right, he just had a birthday yeah so how young were you when you had your first child? My first 21. I turned 21.

Speaker 2:

That's young, that's young man, oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4:

I mean. My philosophy on it is get it done younger, but being ready I mean no one's really ever ready.

Speaker 2:

But for the most part you were like we're going to have a kid, we're going to take care of the kid, I'm going to do what I got to do, and it was just boom.

Speaker 4:

Oh for sure, that's how I was always raised. In a sense. I never had a father figure in the direction that I wanted, but my father was always there financially Paying stuff, stuff like that, like that. Mine didn't have no lucrative, nice lifestyle, but I mean there was something to eat, so but I mean never, never, had no video games and stuff like that. But being ready for kids me mentally I knew I was gonna fuck up somewhere, but well, I think I think not.

Speaker 2:

There's not a single parent who could say they were perfect no raising kids there's especially your new, newly parents. Oh, we're always fucking up all the time until it's like you don't become a pro. Until you get that second or third kid sometimes, and even then you're not really a pro. You're just experienced more managing yeah managing at that point?

Speaker 2:

no, I was. I was terrified, for, uh, when I found out we were having our first, our first kid, I was terrified. I think I don't even know how old I was. I mean, my oldest is going to be 11, but I'm 35, so I was about 24, maybe mid mid 20s, when we had our first, son Lorenzo, and I would just, I was scared man, because, as a new parent like you, don't want anything bad to happen to your kid. Like you follow the rules, you're reading guides, manuals, blah, blah, blah. You got to be on this and that. And then, by your second or third kid, you're like so laxed on shit, raising them, it's like, as long as you just make sure they have a roof over their head you know, food to feed them, clothes to put on their backs.

Speaker 2:

I think the hard part is just raising a kid, learning morals, values and just trying to grow that person into, hopefully, a functioning adult that could take care of themselves.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I think that's the hardest part. It's just being able for them to learn values and morals just because here's some, there's some fucked up kids out there that just no respect, don't know anything, don't, don't listen. So that's the hardest part. Uh, my oldest actually is on the autistic spectrum, so it's difficult. He you know I don't want to discipline my other kids. He thinks I'm disciplining on him. Like I can speak in a louder tone yeah but it's got nothing to do with him and he thinks I'm yelling at him well, that's tough and then it's.

Speaker 2:

It's a little challenge it's just challenging, it's just an additional obstacle, it is.

Speaker 4:

But you know what he's got routines. If he's on a routine, dude, that kid's amazing, amazing, yeah, like him. If you set him on a time, perfect, he follows his schedules.

Speaker 2:

That's the biggest thing with him. I guess it may be a thing where he's just more relaxed and focused when he's got some kind of structure. And then if nothing is structured, then it's just chaos and he just has a hard time dealing with that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because once he's on structure's file he never really he won't ever freak out, cause, like once he interviews new people, yeah he's like who the hell are you? He'll cover his ears up and stuff like that. But no, if he's on a schedule, he knows he's gotta pack his lunch for school, dress shoes, all that stuff. That's, that's him. You send him. Go put your shoes on, go put your coat on. Yes sir, straight to it. The other kids, yeah, no, those are handful.

Speaker 2:

It's one of those things where a lot of kids, I think, go through different phases. Not every kid's going to be the same. Not every kid learns at the same rate, and I think when they get a little older the brains develop a little bit more. I think that's when their personality takes over a little bit more and some of the stuff that maybe he was doing at five and six, now, when he's eight, nine, ten years old, he that's no longer exists anymore, and it it's not all always true, but I think in my opinion, a lot of kids go through a lot of different phases yeah, because my middle child is a big cry baby and my other, my oldest, hasn't gone through that, but my youngest is kind of picking up on it, like he sees that he can get away with certain things, you know, trying to play that same card without really noticing it.

Speaker 4:

But they all have their own little phases yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2:

I think, like I said, kids, especially the younger they are, they they pick up on things. That you may not think that they know what's going on, but I think, deep down, a lot of younger kids, they they know what's up or they have a feeling and they pick up on things that parents don't think they would notice or parents try to hide stuff. They're, they pick up on the stuff yeah, that was one of the things.

Speaker 4:

Thing I had with her was I don't want to argue in front of my kids because I've had a. Do I want to get into that Sure. So my family is very old school and like my dad you guys have seen him, you guys all know them. My dad, you guys have seen him, you guys all know them.

Speaker 4:

And like how your wife's brother says he's an amazing father father figure and he wants to be like him and like dad. I was like. You know him on the outside, you know how he is now and caring and all that, but you don't know what happens when you close doors.

Speaker 2:

Fuck it, let's get into daddy issues. I got daddy issues too, I'll share with you whatever I'm telling you, go ahead like let's get into it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, okay, so we're like with my, my family, um, my dad was never really around. He works a lot. He was paying financially and that way, yeah, he financially supported uh, my, my mom, because mom never worked. Uh, she worked when we were little and then, I think, like two weeks later, my dad was like just stay home, no point. You know, you're working to pay a babysitter and at the end of every week you get 50 bucks. Mine just is like, yeah, 96, 97, 95, 90 you know um, so it wasn't really worth it.

Speaker 4:

But everybody sees my dad as a great dad, great father figure, you know, always being there for me and stuff like that. But my dad has a pretty shady background. You know, he tried they tried to not fight in front of us, but obviously he's I think 12, think 12, 13 years old. That's when I started everything kind of like really unravel. Um, like my dad's a heavy drinker, like all day, every day, um 12 pack, 16, 24, whatever yeah, my dad, okay, my dad drinks water and he's he actually gets sick.

Speaker 4:

Water for him is coronas literally he. He prefers that over water pops anything. That's what he drinks. He. She goes to work in his van. He's got a cooler in that bitch with with beer. Um, so my dad has a drink problem and stuff like that. Uh, and slowly over the years he got more physical with my mom and started hitting my mom and you know, slowly growing up that's hard to deal with it because at the young age you look at your father and you're like all right, I want to be just like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you see him as a superhero, yeah and especially and I don't know how old you were, but even even into your like 10, 11, 12 year old stage, I mean it's still hard to comprehend seeing like your father hit your mom or your father being verbally abusive towards your mom. Like kids especially, they don't know how to comprehend that. So I mean, like kids especially, they don't know how to comprehend that. So I mean, like I said, I don't know how old you were when you started to notice that stuff, but it's hard for any type of kid to comprehend that I was preteen there.

Speaker 2:

So you so you, you had, you kind of knew what was going on, like what the actions were, but I would have and you correct me if I'm wrong, but maybe you just didn't know how to internally process it- well, yeah, because my dad's biggest thing was don't put your hands on a woman or never do that.

Speaker 4:

You know, don't ever show your anger to anybody like that. And it's like crazy you say that but then turn around and hit the only person, two people that I think in my life were important at that time completely yeah of course.

Speaker 4:

So you know, one time, once you see one time, it's like, all right, my hero's actually a villain in my eyes at this point and it's like is this what I want in my future life? Is this a normal thing? And then kind of start asking your own cousins like, hey, how is your dad with your mom? Yeah, because, you're confused.

Speaker 2:

at that point You're confused. You're probably just, I guess, confused, right? Yeah. I guess that's the best way to put it. So would you say that, like, as you're seeing this and experiencing this, would you say that you lost respect for your dad? Obviously you still love your dad and, like I said, I'm assuming but was there like a period where you're like I hate you dad or I don't respect you? Oh, that question hurt yes, no, I mean you know what?

Speaker 4:

at the time I hated him and as I'm getting older I lose the hate because it's like he has his own reasons. He has his own demons in his head but you don't, you're not gonna.

Speaker 2:

that's not an excuse, because it's like he has his own reasons, he has his own demons in his head, but you don't, you're not going to.

Speaker 4:

yeah that's not an excuse. That's not. Yeah, okay, no, no, no, no. I still don't trust him like that anymore. My mom still to this day. I've never liked him for doing it. He's always been like. That was my biggest let down in my life. Um, you know, I I have lost a lot of respect for him for doing that, especially since he says don't do that, and you know your own uncle's doing, and it's like you're a hypocrite.

Speaker 4:

So what does it fucking matter? You know, like you do to yourself, so I was like you can't say nothing to me, especially to try to give me advice or anything like that. My like relationship wise, um.

Speaker 2:

But to me personally, if my mom dies I would cry my dad, I don't think so you know it's funny you say that because I kind of have the same discussion in my last episode, like just talking about death. This is weird, like that and I think I'm right with you on that just because death is such a weird thing to me. But I think if I got the phone call right now and they said my father just passed away, I'd be like damn, like I don't think I would shed a tear at that point. Now, who's to know? I mean, it might be something where I go to the funeral and I'm still okay, but then I see the body still okay, and then two weeks later I just ball out, who knows?

Speaker 2:

Like I said, death for me is a very weird, weird thing. But I do agree with that. I think I'm the same way if my, if I heard that my dad passed, I don't think I would shed a tear. Now I can't say I ever wouldn't shed a tear. I just know when and if that would be. So let's jump ahead until now real quick. Are you and your dad, how's your relationship? Relationship with your, your dad? I mean, is there like we're cool, we just talk business, or do you have a relationship with your dad?

Speaker 4:

no, I really don't have a relationship. Um, we're, we're cool. Uh, he sees my kids, all stuff like that. You know, um, he has his own company, so I'm gonna be taking over and all that kind of stuff. So I know that's gonna be a big hurdle, just because we don't have, like the father-son conversation ever um, I was mainly raised by my mom because he was always working.

Speaker 4:

So I have that bond with my mom. So that's that's why I say for her I would definitely cry, because I see her as both mom and dad at the same time, um, but with my dad. No, it's very strictly business um, business, that's it.

Speaker 2:

I don't ever spend time with him you want to have a father and son relationship with him? Or are you to the point where it's like it's been so long it's been like this, I don't even care? Or does it internally deep down bother you still?

Speaker 4:

Deep down it does bother me what he did to my mom. But as to having a relationship with him, I do to an extent Because once, like I said, they're old school, so they try to push their old school values onto you and they make you feel like shit when you're not doing what they want you to do. Of course, when it's like you know new generations, it's a different vibe. A lot of stuff has changed. But with him, no, I don't want.

Speaker 2:

You're okay. You're okay not to have that, that father son relationship.

Speaker 4:

It'd be nice to come to him and, you know, get something off your chest once in a while because getting having people to listen to you and not give a bunch of two cents or that negative advice. It is nice because I've heard my dad give great advice to other people that, um, really aren't family or friends and stuff like that and he gives great advice he really does but for me I feel like he treats other people with more respect and more hierarchy compared to his own kids I got you which is a little weird, but I understand, because sometimes, like your friends, you're more lenient with them compared to your kids.

Speaker 4:

You want better with your kids.

Speaker 2:

With your friends you're like, oh, that's cool, man, come on, I hope you also portion so would you agree though that just come being brought up in a hispanic, mexican, latin household, and it's probably more so you than me, because I was more brought up on maybe I'm just on that white mexican and yeah, exactly but you, I mean, you grew up in a very strict Mexican Catholic household.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, so you grew up like you said, in that old school. Do you agree that in general Hispanics, and specifically men, it's harder for men to express themselves Completely, to talk things out Completely, right to express themselves? Completely To talk things out.

Speaker 4:

Completely.

Speaker 2:

Right, you would agree Completely. I think. Statistically and just if you take a poll of a thousand just Hispanic men, I think majority would be like yeah, that was never a thing in my household. I was always told to keep that shit inside and not express feelings and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

You could be a bitch.

Speaker 2:

Right, that was kind of like the rule. I'm like why are you whining? Why are you crying? Be a man.

Speaker 1:

Like man up.

Speaker 2:

That was and that's what sucks now. Now, because even though I wasn't raised with like the old school Catholic, hispanic, mexican, you know household, but it was still the same thing specifically with my father was why are you crying, boy? Why are you whining like man up now? When I was? Because I was mostly raised by my mother, but still it was one of those things where she had to work all the time. So it's like I was raised by my grandmother and then when she had time she would take care of me.

Speaker 2:

But even then, it's like even living in a single household which, just like the mother, it's not the same as being raised with a father and I I think I learned that the hard way. And then, before I get going more so into my story, I do want to ask you do you think it's worse to be raised without a father or to be raised with the father, who may be alcoholic, abusive there, but not physically there for you? Which one do you think is worse for a child absent father or a father who's there but just isn't worth shit?

Speaker 4:

for me it would be the one that isn't worth shit, because even in my situation, my father was never really there mentally all the way for us. You know, like that caring person, I have moments where he's like great, you know play catch me sorts like that, but it outweighs the other side.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like having that forbidden fruit things there. So it's like, yeah, my father's here, but he's not the father I want him to be, and it's like I'm it's so close I could touch it, but just, you never get that fruit.

Speaker 4:

It is that fatherly, I mean it is, but at the same time, it's like one of those things where you I walk around with fear in my house sometimes. Am I gonna get my ass beat? When's the the next argument going to happen? When my mom's going to fuck some shit up? Oh, I put too much salt in the food. What the fuck is this bullshit? It's something that you're constant on guard.

Speaker 1:

On guard.

Speaker 4:

And sometimes when I see my dad like that, it's like why are you here? Sometimes it would have been better without you.

Speaker 2:

But financially wise. Wise, yeah, he's there, yeah, always. No, that that's a very good point I didn't think about. Think about it that way because when I grew up so my mother was with my father I was the first born. We didn't have my brother until I was five years old. So there's a good five years, five, yeah, about five years where it was your own, yeah on my own with me and my, my father.

Speaker 2:

And obviously I can't remember everything back then, but there are very strong memories of me being around my father, living in the house that we lived in the harbor, east chicago, indiana. So I I vividly remember the house I remember. I have memories of growing up in the house, but the memories I have of my father piss me off all the time. And it's more so because growing up I can't think of one single memory of getting any type of like fatherly advice. I can't remember any, any memories of like at a boy or like. I can't even remember my dad hugging me.

Speaker 2:

You know like it sucks, because most of my memory is living with my grandma, my ma, taking care of me, because from the time my mother split with my dad, I was and the timeline is going to be a little fuzzy but I was probably and the timeline is going to be a little fuzzy but I was probably seven, eight years old when they split and then we moved to my grandma's house and then my ma worked at the casino, so she had night shift, so she was gone all night.

Speaker 2:

I really didn't get to see my ma, or at least I don't remember seeing a lot of my ma. I would say my grandmother raised me and my other brother for a good portion, because from the time my father and mother split and the time that my mother met my stepdad, it was a good portion. I I don't think it was probably maybe four or five years before like dealing with the fact my dad wasn't around anymore and moving into this house with this other man that's supposed to be my father. And I've said this before and I've talked to my stepfather since then. But I've always had an issue or maybe I was just too stubborn or too strong-headed to really accept my stepfather as my father. You know, he was always just oh, he's, you know here, here.

Speaker 2:

You know, I I never saw him as a father figure, so I never went to him for fatherly advice. So I mean in my head I was basically just raised by my mother pretty much my whole life, because even to my teens, where I've my stepfather has been raising me and my brother for years at this point took care of us, you know, never hit me. He wasn't abusive, I mean just all-around guy. But even in my teenage years and even to my 20s, I just never internally seen him as my father and I should have. This man took me in, like he didn't have to, you know, but he loved my ma. He knew I came with her, gladly took me in, fed me, made sure I had clothes on my back, made sure I had a roof over my head, paid for stuff to do sports, whatever. He was my father, he was my father. But I was so stubborn about it that I still deep down wanted my father to be my father kind of step up yeah, and yeah, my dad was here and there.

Speaker 2:

Like I remember back in the day when I was little, I would go to his house. You know, I would see him here and there. My mother did not want me to go and see him because he still lived in east chicago, so obviously not the nicest neighborhood and stuff like that. So, shoot, there was always concern. But I remember going to his house and I would play with my other cousins, stuff like that. So I have memories of my dad when I got a little older and I have memories spending time with him, but I shit you, not man. I don't have any memories of him being a father and you know what's fucked up and I've talked about it in therapy. I have one strong memory of him and it it makes it makes me so sick. All right, it's me playing baseball, like not t-ball, but little league. I probably was 10, 11 years old. This man would never come to my games. My mother was always there.

Speaker 2:

So for him to come to a game was kind of like fucking christmas for me but there was one game I was playing third base and the ball got hit and I missed it for whatever reason. Maybe it got under my glove, we'll pass you yeah, and I shit you not. All I hear is my father from like the third base dugout and like behind the fence yelling at me what's wrong with you, or I don't know the specifics, but I remember him yelling like why did you miss that ball?

Speaker 2:

And I just remember feeling so fucking sick and so like disgrace, like I disappointed my father and it was. It's horrible. And that memory is so vivid in my head that I think sometimes when I think about it, I get a little teary and because I don't have any good memories, like if if you ask me give me top five good memories of my father, I I can't give you probably even one good one, and it fucking sucks because I even after all this shit, after he left and he didn't fight for me.

Speaker 2:

I think that's what really fucked me up is I don't feel that he fought to get me back and and I could be wrong, because I never had this conversation with them and, honestly, when I started this podcast, in my head you're like you know what? I'm gonna bring my dad onto this show and we're gonna talk some shit out and it's probably gonna be a fucking emotional mess for probably both of us. But I I do want to know, like what the hell, man? What happened between you and my mother? Why didn't you come see me as much as you should have? Why didn't you fight for me? Like there's so many questions I have for this man.

Speaker 2:

But even after all that, even as I got into my teen years, in my adult years, I still wanted to have a relationship with this man because he was my father, he's my blood. Like I share his fucking name for god's. He named me, he made me a junior, like I still had it's fucked up because I think about it now. I still had respect for this man, but he wasn't even in my life majority of the time like yeah, he'd give me presents and stuff for my birthday. He'll say, hey, happy birthday, and I'm and I'm sure there's probably worse deadbeat dads out there- probably, but I think yeah, but I think mentally it's.

Speaker 2:

It's just. It's a weird situation that I still had so much love, respect and I still adore this man to where I was, so I looked forward to like having a drink with him when I turned 21, like like why this man hasn't done anything for me. He was so far behind on child support so he wasn't helping me and my mom, so it was just. It was a weird situation, man, and I think it fucks me up now a little bit like I don't think about it on a daily basis.

Speaker 2:

I don't go through the day but like, oh damn, like my dad fucked me up, like it's not even like that, but if we get talking to it into it a little bit like I won't be surprised if there's something that I say that just may spark fucking waterworks out of nowhere. And it's so fucked up that I don't know why, and it seems to be a reoccurring theme with people on my show that have either deadbeat dads, dads that are alcoholics, dads that are abusive, dads that weren't there. It's like, man, I look at my kids and I'm like I could not imagine just voluntarily not wanting to be with my kids. You know what I'm saying and I know I've been rambling a little bit, but that's pretty much my story, and me and my brother haven't talked to my father in probably five years now Because we used to stay in contact.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, I used to go hang out with them in the bars when I was 21, 22, maybe up, maybe up to where lorenzo was born, so mid-20s yeah and then something happened where he got into it with my brother and he told he, my brother told me that he called one day because he would you know what and he used to drink. He used to drink because me and him would get phone calls and voicemails and you could tell this man was drunk, drunk as hell he was like hey boy.

Speaker 2:

I miss you, love you, call me back. I love you so much. So there it is again, father who drinks and can't get his shit together. And but the back to the story, my brother says yeah, I got into it with dad.

Speaker 2:

he was calling my mom's name and he was saying that I wish I didn't have you, like telling my brother this I'm like that fucking guy. So me and my brother, just we cut him off like blocked him, like didn't talk to him and we haven't talked to him for like damn near five years and he would reach out to us and try to get a hold of us on social media, whatever. But this man, he's got three other kids with another woman, so like I have like a stepsister and two stepbrothers that I probably haven't seen in 10 years out there right now. So like I mean, I get it Like him and my mom are separated, like yeah, go have your own life.

Speaker 2:

But it like pissed me off a little bit Like man, it makes you feel like he chose them. Yeah right, and it sucks, man, Like there's so much mental twine in my head that I probably would need a long session of therapy to kind of like untangle all that to be okay. But it's really fucked up and I know I've been talking for a very long time but I don't get to say that story a lot.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'm glad you shared that with me Because I've always wanted to know your whole dad situation, Because your stepdad's great dude he's a great guy.

Speaker 1:

That dude's amazing. That dude's fun, he's awesome.

Speaker 4:

He really is great dude. He's a great guy. That's amazing.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome, he really is he really is and um, he's really chill he is, and it it pisses me off and it it didn't recently piss me off, until probably in the last year or two, because I've I've been through so much just mentally and growing as a person and it just pissed me off, like, and I told him like man, like I'm so sorry that I didn't accept you as my father way back, and I should have treated him so much better than I did.

Speaker 2:

And it's not like I was a dick to him, it's not like I was you were surprised to rebellious. Yeah, I was rebellious toward him and and it was more like just the lack of a respect that I gave that man growing up pisses me off now, because he did not deserve that. He did everything that he was supposed to do as a husband and as a father, and he had two of his own kids, of course, which my other, my other stepbrothers that you've met, and so he's.

Speaker 2:

He had his own kid and but and now that I think about think about it he wasn't even the type of guy to really treat them differently than me and my other brother right, and there might have been stuff here and there, but just I can't think of any like concrete memories of him Like man, he really showing favoritism, no, like he's a great guy. He didn't deserve all the rebellious and lack of respect that I gave him growing up. And I told him that and I think it took a lot for me to realize that and to even tell him that man, what was his reaction when you told him that? And I think it took a lot for me to realize that and to even tell him that what was his reaction when you told him that he cried a little bit, I think a little tear came down.

Speaker 2:

He just told me I really appreciate you saying that it was just more of a a better connection between the two. I think maybe, uh, more of a respect between us yeah and I think, I think it was for the best, but it just low-key kind of sucks that it took me until I was 34 years old 35 years old to like to learn these type of lessons. You know what? I'm saying Like it. It takes some shit. That should have been common sense.

Speaker 2:

But you know you can't control your feelings or you can't, you're you know, a lot of times you can't comprehend certain feelings, so you don't know what it means, and especially as a kid and a teenager, it's, it's rough, it's, it's really like a unknown thing you know, and it really takes a strong person, like a strong parent, to try to prepare your kids for the kind of like the emotional struggles that could come with growing up, and but I think me not having a father figure early and then me not accepting another father figure later in life just kept me like isolated almost you know, where I didn't have a support to talk to, like I had my mama.

Speaker 2:

Mama was great. She did a fantastic job raising me. She was harsh when she had to be, she was loving when she had to be and she got me whatever I wanted. So it's it's 100 daddy issues with me, like I tell you it?

Speaker 4:

Nothing but daddy issues. Nothing but daddy issues, dude.

Speaker 2:

It took me going to therapy and talking it out with other people to really understand the mistakes that I made and the decisions that I made, to understand why I made certain decisions and I'm hoping that helps me guide my kids, you know, and help them. But yeah, it it's. It's messed up, man, and it's still stuff that I'm dealing with now, and so to go back to you now was was all your brother, so you have a brother and a sister, right? Just? One other brother, one other sister.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and the oldest.

Speaker 2:

Were they getting the same treatment? Or because you were the oldest, you took the heat the majority of it?

Speaker 4:

No, we kind of distributed it all evenly. I was always more trying to protect them from it. You know I was the one that would stay up at night. I would hear them argue, you know, I'd tell them to go to bed and lay in bed with them and kind of comfort them. Um. But once I started, once it actually became 2021, I slowly started moving out. Never told my parents I left, like I've never told them I'm moving out, I just move like shit. Really.

Speaker 4:

Slowly but surely, and they kind of got the hint, you know and um.

Speaker 2:

But that did that turn into a like a big thing, or they just. Okay, he's gone Bye.

Speaker 4:

No, they threw him in my face all the time. Like my brother and my sisters do feel like that. I never told them Because they're like, well, you know, you always kind of protect us and shield us from things and they feel like they're protector, shield kind of person, kind of left.

Speaker 2:

Also, your brother and sisters felt some type of way of you leaving too.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, even they felt some type of way when I left, but they slowly kind of got it yeah, you know they thought about it like in a positive way of oh, he's trying to run away from this. You know he's trying to be better himself, not just be a constant shield punching back for everybody 21?

Speaker 2:

how old is the second sibling?

Speaker 4:

oh my, it's my brother, then my sister. We're all like a year and some months okay, okay so we're all same.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you guys are all on the same kind of level when it comes to like your mindset yeah, we all went through high school and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

we were, you know, at one point. We were three years apart, so we were all in high school at one time. But no, they, I guess when I left, it changed a little bit. My dad became less aggressive and the little bit that they have seen of my dad and them, my brother, stepped up a lot, a lot. They were outside, they went out, they were outside, my parents were inside arguing and they could tell a little out. You hear, you hear the commotion from the inside, from the outside. And uh, my sister was told my brother no, no, no, don't go in, don't go in like let them fight it out, let them argue it out. And my brother heard my dad's voice get louder and louder and you can tell when someone's gonna be aggressive physically oh, oh yeah.

Speaker 4:

And at that moment my brother said fuck that, we're going in there. If they got a problem, we got a problem.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit Okay.

Speaker 4:

And I told my brother. I was like, step up. I was like, if you have to protect my sister, whatever it takes, you know my mom same will. Because at that time me and my brother both agreed we had this slight resentment towards my dad. But being a man, you have to protect everyone that you care about. So they went in completely and at that moment my mom and dad were in the kitchen.

Speaker 4:

My mom was running away from the situation and my dad was drinking. So he had a beer in his hand. He threw it, lobbed it straight at my mom, hit. My mom was running away from the situation and my dad was drinking. So he had a beer in his hand. He threw it, lobbed it straight at my mom, hit my mom. And that's when my dad, my brother, stepped up. My dad got up and they had their exchange of words and same thing with my mom and my sister stepped up, said the same thing that's fucked up. And my dad's over here telling them that's fucked up. And my dad's over here telling him like, oh, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2:

And well, he's probably belligerent.

Speaker 4:

Oh, completely he's you know which is crazy because a lot of people say when you're drunk, your true self comes out. You know, everything that you ball up in your mind, in your head kind of comes out, you know. And he told my mom and my sister and just completely told him like, oh, you guys are horrible and you guys don't love me. And just shit like that, and my brother took it pretty hard, but at that point he was ready to fight my dad.

Speaker 2:

It probably made him grow up a little quicker than he wanted to. Yeah, oh, completely it made him grow up.

Speaker 4:

And my brother stays with him. Now it's just him, my mom and my dad. And now my brother has a relationship with my dad, but in more respect. You know, do this, go do that. You know you don't pay rent here. Go cut the grass, jerk, or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Loki, do you have any unintentional resentment towards your brother for having that relationship that you kind of wanted?

Speaker 4:

completely not. No, no, not at all, because I don't I'll have that father son relationship in the future. Um, but not having a resentment towards him because we both agreed. You know you, if you want to be friendly and like that with my dad, then go ahead. You know there's no resentment. I'm not gonna judge him for it or anything like that. You know he's helped my dad out a lot and my dad's helped him more through college and getting his own place and stuff like that. But with us me, my, it's a little bit less. But completely like resentment towards him, no.

Speaker 2:

That's good. Not at all. Now, did you ever have an incident where you stepped in front of your dad to protect your moms, or anything like that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I kicked my dad out of a fucking car. Did you yeah? Because at that age I was learning how to drive and at the time we had a Tahoe, a burgundy Tahoe, which kind of it was cool to the nice but it just sucked. It didn't have 4x4. And at the time we were driving home my dad was teaching me how to drive. So it had the two main seats but the middle center console part, it had the cup holder and stuff like that and it would pop up and become a seat?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4:

So at that time my brother and my sister in the back, my mom and my dad were up front, my dad was passenger seat, my mom was in the middle and my parents were arguing. I pulled up to the house already and my brother and my sister, I told them hey, go open the door. You know, open my dad's bedroom and stuff like that so we can go inside. And uh, my mom and dad, they were arguing. Uh, we were still inside the car kind of sitting, you know, just pulled up till my brothers go and they were arguing and leave me alone, don't touch me, don't do this. Oh, you're a piece of shit, you know, I hate you, you don't care about me, you don't love me the kind of sob story.

Speaker 2:

Was it every day or was it just like? Almost every weekend almost like a weekend.

Speaker 4:

It was a weekend thing for sure um, at that time he was drinking a little bit less, but um, when he would drink, he'd do a drink.

Speaker 4:

There was no bottom to it, okay you know, anything that goes, any alcohol completely, rather be shots, mixed drinks, cocktails, whatever it would go through him. And uh, in that situation, uh, he tried to get physical with my mom and I was younger. So I knew I couldn't, I couldn't. Even if I hit my dad he'd be looking at me like who the fuck are you, your little ass kid? So I knew at the time, if I'm gonna deter my dad, I'd have to fucking throw my whole weight on him. So at that time I was like, alright, put my fucking left hand on like the armrest and just kick the shit out of him. So you straight like oh.

Speaker 4:

I completely, oh really I pushed my mom to the back and I had both my feet oh and I just fucking kicked my dad out of the truck and he hit the fucking ground, the grass, and my mom got pissed at me, you know I got pissed, yeah she got pissed because I fucking them up. You know, and she's like you should never done that. You know your dad's gonna be the best off and you know you should be hitting them. It's your dad respect. I'm like what kind of respect? Yeah the one he gives you or what.

Speaker 4:

And yeah, I left him. We left him out there for like an hour.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, on the street, on the floor, on the grass street whatever that's hard and um, I think that was when my mom actually felt slightly more safe with me around her. Um, because even then, like when I was growing up, she did not want to go with my dad's. Like when my mom actually felt slightly more safe with me around her Because even then, when I was growing up, she did not want to go with my dad to parties because of the way he is. If it was me, my brother, my sister, then, yeah, he'd be like all right, she'd be like let's go, let's go, I can understand, I feel a little bit more safe around you. So, yeah, I kicked him out that was pretty fun, that was pretty fun it was.

Speaker 4:

I mean, it was because you feel like damn. I do have some kind of strength yeah and I can't deter my dad and I can't protect my mom you're a protector?

Speaker 2:

yeah, for sure. So I finally felt like it was good.

Speaker 4:

You know, my sister and my brother, my brother in the house looking out the window like damn, he fucking pushed his ass out, fucked him up. So they see me as well, like, oh you know what, dad, he can protect us a little bit, even if it's a little bit, but still.

Speaker 1:

Still something Something.

Speaker 4:

Over nothing, or instead of like taking even if it's just me being a punching bag for my dad, all right, it's cool that he didn't hit my mom or my brother or my sister, so that's if it made me feel better about myself, so to know that I can push him back and hurt him a little bit then. Yeah, for sure enjoyed it, yeah. I enjoyed it. I did it was a good time.

Speaker 2:

I mean at the moment, no, but now, as I look back at him, I'm like yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, he doesn't remember that at all. I will say that he doesn't probably doesn't remember a lot of the situations, right, or?

Speaker 4:

some he does, but in clips like how I go, you know when you black out, and shit like that you remember some of it, but then you wake up and you're like, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

Then so was he. So I understand that it was a weekly thing or a daily thing drinking, and I understand that he consumed a lot, but was this a thing where it was mostly the end result was him blacking out at you know, just on the couch, on the bed or somewhere, or was he just like a fully functional alcoholic that just had rages? My doubt was outrageous.

Speaker 4:

functional for a fully functional alcoholic that just had rages. Sometimes my dad was outrageous functional for a moment. Really. Because, as he was teaching me how to drive, he would tell me hey, this next exit, you got to get off. My driver was like three miles away, where the fuck do you know where I'm at? You know like, how do you know that? How?

Speaker 2:

So his favorite pastime was drinking.

Speaker 4:

He would be able to function, but he would just have episodes of aggressiveness and rage. Yeah well, he would black out sometimes. You know it depends on what time you started drinking, but I just didn't know if it was like a daily thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh hey, it's nine o'clock, dad is passed out on the couch. Like I didn't know if it was like, oh no, my dad's passed out on ground like he's been outside he slept outside.

Speaker 4:

Um, on the couch, on the floor, on the toilet, which was his favorite spot, for some reason, like four or five times he's fell asleep, drunk as hell, passed out on the toilet seat. Um, my mom would have to go wake him up. Like, hey, come to the bed, you know. Like, get out of there. No, I want to stay here.

Speaker 2:

All right, cool, that's on you seeing that growing up and seeing the results of alcoholism, did that ever scare you that you might become that, or do you think that was a uh deterrent from you consuming alcohol or anything like that?

Speaker 1:

I mean I know you drink I've seen you drink.

Speaker 2:

But obviously you know what, now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen you belligerent or black out or anything, and I'm sure you have in the past, but like now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever seen you like really intoxicated. So going back to the.

Speaker 4:

We need to change that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do so, going back to the original question, did that scare you at all, seeing your dad, you know, especially at a younger age, like, oh my god, am I gonna be that when I grow up?

Speaker 4:

yeah, at a young age I did um. Growing up I felt like you know, I'm not gonna be like you know, let me not drink because it could happen to me. But as I got older I kind of realized it's more of a person, not just you know your past or anything like that. You know I can drink. I can handle my liquor well Probably not now because I'm like I don't normally drink like that just because, but no, at the time when I was drinking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I can handle my liquor, but no, at the time when I was drinking, yeah, I can handle my liquor do you think addiction is hereditary or do you think that's just a personal choice that gets maybe influenced by past or family addictions? I think it's just a choice you don't think it's hereditary at all?

Speaker 4:

no, I don't really think so because as you see other people doing it, you kind of think to yourself like I don't really think so. Because as you see the other people doing it, you kind of think to yourself like I don't think I want to do that. But like I see my dad drink like that often and every time I run him I don't even want to drink because I don't want to cause any problems, I just don't want it. That's what I always thought too.

Speaker 2:

But like some people claim that addiction is hereditary, like oh, my mom did meth, now I do meth. It was hereditary.

Speaker 4:

I mean, maybe if they were like a baby, like stuff like that, like a crack baby, stuff like that, but yeah, like a meth baby or a crack baby. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2:

I could get.

Speaker 4:

that I can get that just because their body doesn't, it processes it.

Speaker 2:

So they can't handle not really going out too long with it. I think it's more of just your influence of the environment, people. People see that as a norm. Oh, my dad drank all the time. That must be normal yeah so I'm gonna do it type of situation and I could see that. Yeah, I, I agree. I'm not saying that I think it's hereditary. I'm just curious on what I don't think it's hereditary.

Speaker 4:

I was just curious on what you thought. No, I don't think it's all that hereditary um drinking smoking nah.

Speaker 2:

I don't think so. At the end of the day, it's a personal choice. It is, and if you can't control it, then that's normal there are these heartbreak habits and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

Uh, like me, I drink energy drinks all day oh, me too. I have a bad addiction to that work I drink two, and then um go to the gym I drink another one. It's like three, four.

Speaker 2:

How much sleep are you getting on a on a daily night?

Speaker 4:

recently not much, because I'd go to bed at 11 12 and wake up at like four in the morning.

Speaker 2:

Go to work yeah, it's like four hours. That's what I'm saying, like me too. Like I think a lot of people don't get eight hours of sleep. I would love to get eight. Oh, I would love to, but I think what? And this is probably me just defending my habit, but a lot of people don't get that eight hours. Like you said, you get about four, I get maybe five six.

Speaker 4:

I get four to four to six. 6.

Speaker 2:

I'll get like usually 5 to 6, but I think doing that for so long I just don't think your body could fully function on 5 hours of sleep. So we use these energy drinks to help us. You know what I can see energy drinks, even like the zero sugar ones. Because is this so sure? No rebels god damn, I bought a whole pack of not. Oh shit, that's not good. I usually drink the zero sugar, zero sugar.

Speaker 2:

But I didn't even realize. Oh, we're gonna be fucked today. But no, I wouldn't be surprised. Be surprised if energy drinks 10 years from now are like cigarettes and they're bad. We kind of already know they're bad for us.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, got to get that fucking Red 40 in you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But, if you could recall, cigarettes were the norm, people smoked on airlines, oh yeah. And it was just a thing. Oh yeah, cigarettes are great, blah, blah. And then, whatever, how many years later? Uh, cigarettes give you cancer I'm like oh shit, 1-800-r-bad yeah. So who knows? I mean five, ten years. I wouldn't be surprised if they said, hey, energy drinks cause fucking I don't know, thyroid cancer or stomach cancer or whatever.

Speaker 4:

You know, I'm saying from all the acid or whatever yeah, I'm no fucking doctor so I don't know the terms and shit. So theanine and all that kind of stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if they said that year, the surplus and b12s and b6s and all that but you know what?

Speaker 2:

just like cigarettes, we'll still sell them completely america will still sell them. It's a profit. It's fucked up, man. Just like cigarettes, as long as they put a label on there like cigarettes. Oh hey, energy drinks.

Speaker 4:

This could cause so so cancer and I think that's why the dispensaries have been opened up, because the government's realizing, like you know what, maybe if we can't control this drug trade, we might as well just be part of it.

Speaker 2:

That's a good like watch Fucking cocaine will be legal in like 15 years.

Speaker 4:

I mean veterinarians and shit like that give meth, like meth-grade stuff, who knows what will be in the future.

Speaker 2:

But all right. So let's get off a little of the sad topic and kind of go into something about what's going on today. Have you heard about or seen the drones in New Jersey? Not at all. You haven't heard anything about that. No, all right, cool, because I'm going to educate you.

Speaker 2:

So since Thanksgiving, there's been a half dozen states up in the Northeast, so New York, pennsylvania, maryland, connecticut, rhode Island, new Jersey and it all started in New Jersey. But there's been sightings since Thanksgiving up to now, been sightings since thanksgiving up to now over 3 000 sightings of just these drones being flown around in the sky, and it's mostly been through like the the night, but they're actually starting to see drones being flown during the day and nobody knows. There's like there's been no public announcement from the federal government or from state governments. Nobody knows what these drones are, and they said that they've. Some of these drones are the size of cars, yeah, like that's how big they are and they're just, they're flying. It's like the four propeller ones and there's lights, like triangular lights and square lights, flying all through, and it's happening among six different states. So there's gotta be some kind of organization that's doing this because you you can't get like four or five people and like, hey, let's fly drones across six different states and have that many different drones blown around, but it's.

Speaker 2:

It's very weird because there's been no official announcement on what these drones are, like the fbi and the homeland security have said that these drones don't pose a threat to the public, like how do they know that they? They can't even give you an answer or where these drones could be coming from, and so it doesn't make any any sense. And I think one announcement was oh, people are mistaking some of these drones for planes and helicopters. I mean, okay, maybe some of them, but if there's been officially over 3 000 sightings of these lights and there's videos everywhere of these drones, like you clearly can see that it's the way it's moving well, it's rotates yeah, then, like you know, it's a drone, I mean, you can hear it, that's yeah

Speaker 4:

like you can hear that it's a drone I know there's some drone shows, like with lights and stuff like that um, they've been orchestrated before. Um, but like the really big ones I know farming has that they they have, like the big four propeller ones that are like, they mount it on top of their cars like pickup trucks but these are happening over like urban cities.

Speaker 2:

It's like no one's giving any answers to any of this. So I mean, I'm sure I low-key I'd be a little scared if I looked out my window and I saw drones flying every couple days.

Speaker 4:

I would be a little worried, yeah because the majority of your drones all have a camera, Even the cheap Teemu ones you can get one with a camera and like DGI I think, makes a pretty good one, and I think you drive for 30 minutes.

Speaker 2:

charge it for four hours yeah and you fly around for 30 minutes and it's clear 4k there's a quote I took and I can't give credit to I. I didn't get that portion of it, but and I'll paraphrase it they're saying that these elusive maneuvering uh suggests that this could be major military powers. That begs the question whether they have been deployed to test our defense capabilities or, worse, it could be like a dictatorship, perhaps like Russia, china, iran, north Korea. Like we don't know, like you don't know what kind of group, like it can't be a single person, it's got to be some kind of group that's doing this to cover all this area across six different states. And they're saying that these aircrafts they're not military.

Speaker 2:

So it's like, well, what the shit? If they're not military grade drones, then what the fuck are they? Why are they flying around? Why is there so many of them? And I know I think it was either abc news or cbs news like during the day the cameraman actually got a shot in the sky of this and it looked like like a orb, like a colorful orb, just kind of sitting up in the sky. And like I'm looking at it, I'm like, well, that doesn't look like a drone, but it's weird man and it's a ufo I'm surprised you haven't heard any of this me not like what's on your fyp.

Speaker 2:

You know your fyp page. No, you don't want to see that.

Speaker 4:

Nothing but stupid shit.

Speaker 3:

Honestly, nothing but comedy do you not get it? Where do you get your news from?

Speaker 2:

Do you not get news from anywhere? I get it from you, from you.

Speaker 4:

From me oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like you, don't have an ex-account for any news or anything? No, not really.

Speaker 4:

Not really. I try to stay away from politics.

Speaker 2:

What's that got to do with politics? Just to know what's going on in the world, I mean, yeah, but you don't really care. That's fine.

Speaker 4:

I mean I kind of I do but I kind of don't, because I mean like that could be used for surveillance and stuff like that. But for me, you know, it doesn't bother me too much because I mean, a lot of people there probably are scared of it, of the drones, because especially now, like all right, you can, you can shoot them down, but at the same time we said they're doing that it's like police are coming to your house, what the fuck you doing?

Speaker 2:

and that's what people are saying, like, hey, if you can't tell us and this is like the public talking to the government if you can't tell us what these drones are, then it should be shot down. But then you get into the situation where, if you shoot down a drone and if it's like any type of military or anything I privately own, oh, yes, I guess it's like a federal crime to shoot down a government. I guess technically it'll be an aircraft, right?

Speaker 4:

yeah, it'd be a aircraft. Um, but shooting their stuff they're down. Yeah, because technically it's the tax dollars stuff.

Speaker 2:

Low key. But it would be a felony, because then you're intruding with the government. Yeah, I would like if it was happening like consistently, like if I lived in a major city where it was consistently happening, I think I would want to go get a drone myself and then the next time I saw one fucking fly that shit right up there and see what I could get, have a drone myself. And then the next time I saw one fucking fly that shit right up there and see what I can get battle up there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know, man put lightsabers on my shit and take them down myself, but that's what I would want to now. If it was something where I saw one time and you haven't heard anything for like weeks, then that that's one thing, but I'm pretty yeah, because that could be some kid just like a drone, but I'm pretty sure yeah, cause that could be some kid just flying a drone around, but I'm pretty sure these sightings are happening more frequently and it all started since Thanksgiving, which is very weird in my eyes.

Speaker 2:

But I think, I think, yeah, I would want to go get my own and just fly that up there and maybe even follow one yeah, get your whole anti-air sir but at the same time to do that you would need to get a pretty expensive one, because I know, I know those drones have a certain range that you could go and obviously you'll probably have to spend thousands of dollars yeah, I mean miles and miles.

Speaker 4:

The thing is, though, um, because I was trying to get my own dj maverick one, and those are like four or five hundred bucks but how far do they go? They go?

Speaker 2:

I think about a mile okay so what I'm saying you would need something that I could go like ten miles.

Speaker 4:

I have friends that build them and they're like I can build you a better quality one, a faster one, a longer range and a better battery like flight time. I was like for a lot cheaper, for like half the price.

Speaker 2:

I think we need to question your friends now. Maybe, maybe maybe they are some white boys, so you know they're on the government side on that part yeah, but I think, well, if you didn't have friends that knew how to do that, you probably would have to spend a good, yeah, good thousand to two thousand, a couple thousand just because, I mean even the basic ones are 500 bucks and that's just used for, like.

Speaker 4:

A lot of realtors use them for showing the houses off, stuff like that. But more cinematic stuff that's weird.

Speaker 2:

I I'm hoping it's nothing serious and like today's age, like I could see it being oh hey, it's a. It's a big hoax or a big prank. Like there's two dozen, there's a group of two dozen people that are just flying drones around trying to freak people out, like I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case I can see that, but you got like a 50 50 chance because oh yeah, if.

Speaker 4:

If they're telling the government what is this and they're not responding, it's like all right, there's 50 chance you're doing it on purpose oh, yeah, not saying anything and just trying to prolong the process, or it could be a bunch of people pranking around because the only way, because a civilian can't.

Speaker 2:

Well, like you said so, farmers have access to those big ass drones yeah, they build big drones.

Speaker 4:

They strap them up on top of the car because it's so heavy, so they fly around their fields like the regular citizen couldn't get access to that? No, because any, I forgot the exact height but, at certain heights.

Speaker 1:

You gotta have a permit for it you're right, once you go to a certain height, you gotta get a permit for it.

Speaker 4:

And then, once you go to a certain height, you gotta get a permit. And now you're registered with that drone and you're like it's like a firearm in a sense, because now you have a weapon in a sense, so now you need a license for it. So if they do catch your drone, then yeah, they'll come after you that makes sense but again, like the farming ones, they only want them in fields because they're so big oh yeah, like I saw a video like it looked like a damn near airplane.

Speaker 4:

Yeah big that the drone was oh yeah because it looks like an airplane a little bit, but it's got the four propellers yeah, because the four propeller ones that they'll uh, they'll sometimes have like some pesticides and stuff like that on them and they'll like drop off, we'll spray some of those pesticides sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Hmm that's right. I'm surprised. Like I said, I'm surprised you haven't heard that. Anything like. Anything like that. It's been all over my TikTok. It's on the news. I see it on Twitter or funny enough my For you page.

Speaker 4:

I got a bunch of Mexico stuff like news in Mexico.

Speaker 2:

Do you really yeah? You keep track of shit that's going on in Mexico, but you don't know what's going on, yeah because literally, I think like two hours ago, I seen that they had a parade.

Speaker 4:

So in Mexico, a lot of the Catholic stuff. December 12th was the day of the Virgen Guadalupe. Okay.

Speaker 1:

So the.

Speaker 4:

Virgin Mary and so the Virgin Mary, and they have parades, and I see them in Michoacan. They had a pickup truck do like a parade. Well, the person driving goes intoxicated and ran over 18 people Killed, three injured 15.

Speaker 2:

Holy shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so I get information from a lot of news from Mexico and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Shit that doesn't even affect you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, shit does not affect me at all, just whatever.

Speaker 2:

Did you hear that TikTok is currently scheduled to be banned?

Speaker 4:

Didn't they say that years ago?

Speaker 2:

Well, currently they had plans for another appeal as of January 19th.

Speaker 4:

Wasn't it Vine and then it jumped to. Tiktok.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because Vine got shut down, right, but I thought TikTok took over.

Speaker 4:

I thought TikTok was the creators of Vine.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 4:

I could be wrong, mm-hmm, but I but I just thought it was so coincidental that it's like, oh, you can do seven second videos, but now you can do full videos so I feel like maybe they were the same people the decision was like made for TikTok to be banned, yeah but they're, of course they're trying to appeal it yeah, cause it gets. We get into that freedom of speech. But you know what's going to happen?

Speaker 2:

TikTok gets banned. Something else is going to just jump in its place.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Elon Musk is going to buy them, Right?

Speaker 2:

something stupid like that, Dude, like Twitter, will be the next TikTok. Yeah, the next TikTok when you could do tweets but there's a section for videos. Yeah, Dude, that's what's going to happen. And it's dude like Vine and now TikTok, now that you have advertisement and then you have the TikTok shop, like it's too lucrative for someone not to try to start up another like short video platform.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because it's like a Facebook at this point. Facebook and like.

Speaker 2:

Instagram are now. Now it's a real making money kind of thing. So, like it's, I don't think it's ever gonna go away.

Speaker 2:

It'll just be under a new name yeah, probably the same people, just different name but and I remember, like when it first started, about tiktok being banned and I'm not fully informed on the actual details, but I know some of the people's concerns were like the, the content that was able to come through on TikTok. Like there was content that were supposedly or allegedly driving people to commit suicide or like not driving them, but they're like you could look up content and and like I can't because I don't want to say the wrong thing, but basically content about suicide or killing or like like sexual assault or anything like that.

Speaker 2:

Like that it was accessible to people who really was like searching it yeah and I and a lot of they would bring that stuff up about oh how different access was accessible in china compared to what could be accessed in the US, and I think that was a big topic too and to the point where the Supreme Court judged it to be banned. And then, of course, you gotta go through the whole appeal process.

Speaker 4:

But that's with anything man, the internet could be a fucked up place yeah, I mean even on facebook, um, not instagram, because I don't have like crazy stuff like that. But I know facebook you can still find and twitter you can find still on, like, um, the videos that a lot of cartels have where they like oh yeah, people live, I've seen them.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy video. It's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 4:

I've seen some that are. They're disturbing but like grotesque at the same time. You know where, like people eating live organs and like cutting straight out of them. Um, but I mean TikTok now has like certain pages that are uh, type in this type of search and you'll find a naked girl or stuff like that. So I mean there's always going to be around it.

Speaker 2:

You're right, even banning TikTok?

Speaker 4:

I don't think so, just because, like you said, the marketplace.

Speaker 2:

But at the end of the day too, it's up to us as parents to kind of comb over what they're watching anyways. I mean, it's not it's not the full responsibility of a entity or a company to kind of filter what a specific person should be watching. It's you gotta watch what your kids are. You gotta go over what your kids watch sometimes, because there could be just like like um, I can't think of the damn word but like slight messages within the video that kids could pick up on, and it's not so obvious yeah but you watch enough of it.

Speaker 4:

And I mean, we've all seen crazy tv shows and movies where a person creates a video and it like brainwashes oh yeah, even now, like, even like spongebob, to me is, as a kid, a lot of hidden messages, subliminal messages, just right over my head and now, when I watch over as a kid, I'm like whoa, they're wild for that, like the. The woman who wears spongebob tells gary uh, the to balloons the soap, don't drop these gary and I'm like what the fuck?

Speaker 2:

no, you're right, but nickelodeon did allow that yeah like those, like you watch it and you're like didn't think nothing of it at the time, but you watch it as an adult. It's like whoa man, You're tailing the line pretty damn close.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, Some of it. Yeah, it does get like that, Like especially some cartoons.

Speaker 2:

But I think they do that to maybe grab some of the older kids too.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so it's not just like a completely kiddie show.

Speaker 2:

Hey, because the more views you can get, the more money you're going to make.

Speaker 4:

I mean, yeah, but if you want more adult content, there's always Rick and Morty Bob's Burgers Invincible. I love those ones.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you've seen that. I've seen that, yeah that's.

Speaker 4:

I watch that now and I don't. My kids want to watch it too, but they always see like the little superhero parts where there's no blood or gore and they're like I want to watch it. I'm like, no, you can't watch this, this is for adults speaking of anime, are you?

Speaker 2:

do you know ultraman? No, you know the series. Have you seen the movie on netflix, ultraman rising? No, I haven't seen that I watched that movie yesterday with the kids and long story short I won't is it? Good, it's dude, it's so good I was so invested into it.

Speaker 2:

It's a fucking cartoon and I'll give you the basis of it. It's literally just a superhero who could, like, go really big because the the enemies in the show in the movie are kaijus, you know, like big monsters, yeah, so this guy has ability to go up into that size and battle kaiju monsters yeah, make plenty of level yeah, but the whole twist about it is that this person, because he takes over for his father, his father got hurt, he's old now, so he takes over yeah, he's a young kid, doesn't really want to do it, his heart's not into it, but he's doing it.

Speaker 2:

And he is stuck with this baby kaiju and no one's ever seen one or weren't even like known that there could be a baby kaiju, so he's literally kaijus, bro he's raising the, this little baby monster, and then obviously he, the more he raises it, the more he comes attached and there's a whole big storyline. But I'm telling my son I'm like dude, like throughout this whole movie I went through like five different emotions. I was like happy, sad, I was at my, I had anxiety, I was nervous. So, like it, it's a good movie.

Speaker 4:

We were walking in there like, oh, you're a good parent, that's a good parent right there, that's fatherly bond right there.

Speaker 2:

I was connecting with this little ugly, baby kaiju.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, hopefully your dad doesn't leave you.

Speaker 2:

Because they made the baby so freaking cute and it was just like it wasging on my like father's heartstring and no, but like, all kidding aside, the storyline was really good, the action scenes were good, like everything came in really well. And then he was telling me that there's a anime series for Ultraman as well, and I guess it's like three seasons. I'm like oh shit, I'm watching that tomorrow, like that's, that's how I was, that's how much I was hooked really.

Speaker 2:

I'm serious man like you should watch the movie and to kind of get a feel for it and I'm gonna watch the series on it, but it was a really good movie Like it's a and it's a good movie for adults and kids Like it. It kept you in it and it was. It was really good. I would definitely recommend.

Speaker 4:

Like young kids would like it too, or no? Yeah, you think my actual little kids would like it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I think so. Like Alonzo was watching it, Lorenzo watched it Like. Alonzo was watching it, lorenzo watched it.

Speaker 4:

I mean, we were all like we were into it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah we were all into it.

Speaker 2:

It's a really cool movie. It's got like baseball because he's on a. When he's not Ultraman, he's a professional baseball player.

Speaker 4:

So it's got all this type of stuff in it. So what if a kaiju happens, like in the middle of the game?

Speaker 3:

There's a scene that Nice happens like in the middle of the game there's a scene that, and nice, dude, I'm telling you that I can be a director it's really cool man okay, and then?

Speaker 2:

speaking of anime, you watch a lot of anime, don't you? Yeah or did you kind of fall off on that?

Speaker 4:

no, I watch a lot um, I don't have a lot of time like my brother does. My brother has like a lot of, that's all he watches. He doesn't watch like no reality TV or anything like that, he just just all anime Completely.

Speaker 2:

He's got that Crunchyroll app.

Speaker 4:

No, he watches.

Speaker 2:

What does he watch it off of?

Speaker 4:

He watches off of the. It's like a streaming one. Oh really. They stream it and it's like chapters, episodes, everything.

Speaker 2:

It's really nice. The Quencher is the only one that I know where you could subscribe and you'll have access to all the no, the one he has is a free one.

Speaker 3:

It's like anime for TV or 4V or something like that, and it's.

Speaker 4:

It updates and gives you the newer ones like a regular TV subscription, but it also has the Japanese animes that you don't know about. But they're there for you, but I'd watch it and have a child like that. For me it was like that.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, I'm like you. I enjoy watching anime, but I don't I probably can't even give you a list of like ten shows, so is there, like what are a couple of the shows that you just really enjoy watching?

Speaker 4:

I watch a lot of the bigger ones just because I feel like they'll be able to produce more content, because I Like One Piece. That's a really really long fucking anime, bleach is another one, or you know typical stuff like that. I like watching a lot of those. Have you watched Dan Dan Dan? Lorenzo watches it killer opening scene really the best, the best opening scene to me. I haven't seen it yet. Everybody finds it annoying. It's a really good anime. I'm watching it. I'm like what are you watching?

Speaker 2:

he's like the Dan-da-dan.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, dan-da-dan, did you fucking stutter, over there?

Speaker 2:

No, he's like look.

Speaker 4:

Oh, the Dan-da-dan. Yeah, it's a really good anime. Watch that one. Have you watched One Punch man?

Speaker 2:

That's another one. There's so many that I want to get into, but, like you said, some of these anime series have like fucking 50 shows.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I know One Punch man. I think that's like two seasons.

Speaker 2:

Oh, really. So it's really short, it's a short one.

Speaker 1:

You can watch that one.

Speaker 4:

I think Netflix or Hulu has it. One of the two have it, but it's really short. You can watch that. It's a superhero one yeah um, but it's like a. It's an undercover uh superhero but he so he's like the strongest superhero out of all of them, but he tries to keep it really low key so there's other superheroes in the world?

Speaker 4:

yeah it's like a city and they all have like um grading levels like class A, class B, and you know certain heroes stay in their villain categories and you can process up, level up. Pretty much no no shit yeah so, like, the more fame you get um, the bigger villains you take down. You kind of go up um, but he is stronger, but he is stronger than all the superheroes, yeah but he just doesn't want to be known.

Speaker 4:

No, no, he doesn't. He's really really nonchalant, like on one of the episodes he was fighting this really strong enemy and he got upset because he forgot that on a certain day they have a sale on ramen. Really, and he got really pissed off.

Speaker 4:

He's like you, made me miss my sale, so he literally one punch that's the name of the dude main character, and he punched him in one punch and just exploded him completely and he was upset like my ramen sale, completely pissed off. And he was upset like my ramen sale, completely pissed off. And there's superheroes trying to fight this thing that are like struggling. And he just comes by one punch and just says Move out of my way.

Speaker 2:

Oh really, yeah, that sounds interesting.

Speaker 4:

It's pretty cool, it's pretty cool. What about what's?

Speaker 2:

bleach. Is it bleach, bleach, what's that?

Speaker 4:

about Damn.

Speaker 2:

Bleach.

Speaker 4:

Oh, so you haven't have you watched it, I do, I do, I have it's not one of the ones that I like like is it like a complicated series?

Speaker 2:

what's up? Is it like a complicated series?

Speaker 4:

it's a little bit complicated because, um with, like Bleach you, they have this thing called. What is that called hockey?

Speaker 4:

I think it's hockey or something like that they have like this leveling, like their powers and stuff like that. They're like swords, like summarizing sense, and they have, um, like stages of their sword, bankai. That's what's called. It's called A Bankai and when you release your Bankai, in a sense you get a power-up on your sword. Certain swords have different abilities and stuff like that, but that one's okay. That one's okay. It's technically about fighting enemies in an organization, but I mean, obviously it's corrupt and they kind of fight each other and shit like that. So what's another one that you really enjoy, like an organization, yeah, but I mean obviously it's corrupt and they kind of fight each other and shit like that.

Speaker 2:

So what's another one that you really enjoy watching, then?

Speaker 4:

I haven't really really watched it. I want to get into it Black Clover.

Speaker 2:

That was a really good one. Black Clover, black Clover, and what's that about?

Speaker 4:

That one's like about magic, about spells and stuff like that, but the main character doesn't do magic and so he fights all these strong wizards and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

But he doesn't have magic, but he doesn't have magic?

Speaker 4:

No, he fights melee-wise and later he finds out he does have magic, but it's like a forbidden magic. That only he Like a dark magic In a sense. Yeah, Seven Deadly Sins. Have you seen that one?

Speaker 2:

Is that, yeah, um Seven Deadly Sins. Have you seen that one is that I don't. I've heard of it.

Speaker 4:

I don't think I that one is on Netflix. Is that the?

Speaker 2:

one where it's like a creature and there's like a um, almost, where he makes wishes or he does.

Speaker 4:

There's like a book, no that one is with the Seven, seven Deadly Sins, so like um, or he does there's like a book. No, that one is with the seven, seven deadly sins, so like um lion, sin of pride and stuff like that um, and that one's about demons and angels fighting okay then yeah, and so it's seven characters, um, like gluttony, I think, is one of them, and stuff like that, and they have the demon versions and shit like that and they, they fight each other.

Speaker 2:

Is that another short? Is that another short series?

Speaker 4:

It's a little bit short. It's not long long. I think it's like four or five seasons. Okay. And then it branches off into the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Oh shit so it breaks off into that because they have King Arthur and in that show he's like a little kid. And then they break off into the actual separate one.

Speaker 2:

That's interesting too.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that one's actually pretty fun. It's a lot of fighting.

Speaker 2:

So you've watched it already. Yeah, that one, yeah, okay, yeah, you recommend that.

Speaker 4:

That one. Yeah, if you like action and stuff like that, it is, it does have some witty moments of the main character, meliodas. Like the demon king, he meets one of the girls. It's an angel, she's a fallen angel in a sense, and he touches her and stuff like that. So it's very hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so which one would you recommend I watch? First, one Punch man or Seven Deadly Sins.

Speaker 4:

I would recommend. It kind of depends on whether you want a long one or a short one. I mean, just start one.

Speaker 2:

Because if I start one, I'm not going to watch another one until I finish that series.

Speaker 4:

Okay, so punch one, punch Just get out of the way.

Speaker 1:

Just get out of the way. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Okay, it's pretty funny. It's got those little stale moments and you can see in the animation of the characters. The drawing styles go from straight lines and dots to show an emotion like stale face and then it goes into the seriousness and it's like full detail face. I like that it jumps back and forth, didn't?

Speaker 2:

Dragon Ball Z do that too no.

Speaker 1:

Dragon Ball Z never did that.

Speaker 2:

But there was another really popular show but I know what you're saying where it would be like little dot for eyes and then their face expression.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's just for like a scene or a section like one or two clips, that one, and then I would jump into the Seven Deadly Sins. And another big one I want to watch is the Demon Slayer. See, but I heard that's a long that's a long one that's a super long one no, I'm not even saying that's a long one are you sure?

Speaker 2:

I thought it had like all these seasons and it had as movies seasons, stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's the same thing with my Hero Academia have you seen that?

Speaker 2:

no, I haven't seen that, that's another superhero, one with like quarks.

Speaker 4:

So it's like their superpowers, Everybody inherits them and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

I've heard Demons Later is really good, but that's just like another. Like you said earlier, that's like another big big name, big title. That's a big name one yeah.

Speaker 4:

Same thing with my Heroic Demi. They're pretty big.

Speaker 1:

They have a movie.

Speaker 4:

They're marketed, pretty heavily marketed. Yeah, yeah, um, they do have sports ones. I watched kirk was. Yeah, I watched kirk was basketball so that's about a basketball one, I don't know they did, and then I watched I forgot the name of it, but it's on netflix a volleyball one no shit and then my brother watches blue lock things called blue lock or something like that. It's about sport. It's about soccer oh, that's cool. And there's other ones about baseball too.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure there's like hundreds and hundreds of different shows to watch, but I think the only big anime that I got into was Dragon Ball Z, and that's another huge marketed anime. Yeah, it's up there with Pokemon and shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, pokemon. Yeah, it's up huge marketed anime. Yeah, it's up there with Pokemon and shit yeah, Pokemon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's up there with that. And then they just made a new Dragon Ball. What is it called? Something with an S? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I know, they just put that on, was it Netflix?

Speaker 2:

Well, I know it went on Crunchyroll.

Speaker 4:

Maybe Hulu.

Speaker 2:

One of the two, netflix or Hulu, has it. Oh, what is it? I don't oh Dragon Ball.

Speaker 4:

Daima, daima, yeah, yeah, that one's brand new. I'm gonna wait for that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I didn't really go into it, but from what I briefly heard is that all the characters get turned into kids and then they just go on these missions as kids. Like somebody, some kind of evil force or villain turns everybody into a kid, and so they.

Speaker 4:

They pretty much go on adventures yeah, I'm gonna wait for that yeah yeah I mean it's kind of like, so like for me like the dragon boss super yeah when they did like the battle, whatever the what's it called then. Oh, was that better? Was that royal battle that they had on dragon ball super?

Speaker 2:

I haven't seen super. There's so many, there's so many movies the one where he goes ultra into no you haven't seen that.

Speaker 4:

You should watch that I'm so behind.

Speaker 2:

I, like last year, like last year I started I was going like you know what, I'm going to re-watch all of Dragon Ball and I'm going to get caught up. I think the farthest I got was Dragon Ball, where him and Vegeta go on with was it Beerus? And they go back to his planet, they start training, and then Buris and his other universe guy, Whis, yeah but no. But it's like the other, the counterpart to Buris, who oversees the other part of the universe.

Speaker 4:

Oh, the Destroyer, they start that tournament. Yeah, that you should watch that.

Speaker 2:

That's where I got up to, but I haven't got to the battle yet.

Speaker 4:

Get the battle, watch the battle. The battle part is oh, no shit. That's why I say I want to wait for the Daima part. Okay, because if you're watching this week per week, you're kind of like it's so much anticipation that you're like, oh yeah, oh, left me on a cliffhanger, fuck.

Speaker 2:

I remember back in the day when I was a kid watching it and you're like you would watch a whole episode of dragon ball z for like not a battle to happen, you're like ah fuck, next time on dragon ball, z god damn it they've been talking for three episodes and no one's falling, that one's the one's gonna punch yeah, like god damn it.

Speaker 2:

That's the only thing that pissed me off about dragon ball z back in the day, but now that it's available to stream, you could watch it whenever yeah, that's why I like to like wait a little bit longer yeah

Speaker 4:

except like um, like to me, danadan, I like watching it weekly. I'll let like a couple weeks go by, but I like it because it's one single um, demon entity kind of thing they're fighting. So it could probably expand for like a couple episodes, but then they change it to a different one. So you're not like Dragon Ball, it's a whole entire storyline to it and they have like a shorter storyline. They have like a main plot to it, but you get entertained throughout the day instead of just three episodes of dialogue or trying to set up the stage for something. No, but then they're normally just fighting constantly see, I would.

Speaker 2:

I would love to just binge watch all that type of shit. But I mean, you know as well as I do with kids work and now that I got this podcast, like now, that's just another thing to keep me busy for the whole day and I don't have time.

Speaker 2:

I just don't have time to watch these shows. And like I try to watch, I have little shows here and there on Netflix and Hulu. I try to watch, but man, it takes me probably several months to just get through four seasons of a certain show, just because I don't have time to watch it. That sucks, because I remember back in the day you had all the time to play video games and watch shows and I miss that.

Speaker 4:

I see that with my brother because my brother is caught up on six different anime shows. He plays video games with his friends.

Speaker 2:

That's the life man. You have to live in the moment all the time, because time's a bitch, time flies.

Speaker 4:

And you know I'm learning that. I'm learning that. I'm learning that now because I dedicated a lot of my time to my family and stuff like that and it didn't work out as I wanted it to. So now I'm in this trance of all right, since I would let my family part one prosper. I left that on friends and going out and these opportunities and stuff like that, and now it's living the moment like me to go out, I would love to go out to a bar and stuff like that, and I just can't enjoy it. Or even if I make plans with somebody, it just usually doesn't go through.

Speaker 2:

No, I get it. Yeah, because everything, everything is so hectic all the time, especially when you have kids. Obviously, if you don't have kids, then you don't have that extra responsibility.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, even if you're just trying to buy stuff Like your own little personal toys. Yeah, you know, I want my Carver. I want Carvers. I want fast gold prices. I know it sucks, man, but I want to car parts. I want car parts, I want fast gold prices. I know it sucks, man, but I want to go into the gun Stuff like that, can't do it. Yeah, because it's like $500, $600 to spend on a gun or some car parts. It's like that's my kid's food for the week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or it's a bill that needs to be paid.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah, kids need a. Oh yeah, kids need uniform. Oh, they're going on a trip, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, man, I think definitely learn that now. It's good that you're seeing that now, live in the moment, because and it's kind of weird because my mother used to always tell me like hey, you better cherish these moments now when you're young.

Speaker 4:

My mom said that to me every time when I'm a little kid.

Speaker 2:

But you think like oh well, like you don't listen to that shit, you don't pay attention to that until it's gone and you got your own kids and you're tired all the time and you're and it's crazy all this stuff.

Speaker 4:

It's crazy because, like, when you say that you want to tell your own kids, like look, take advantage of this time, and you're like you're, you're fucking to yourself, like take advantage of this time, like I'm telling you what I'm telling you, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then you look back and you're like my, my parents had the same shit and I fucked it up too yeah and yeah, because you're like oh damn, my mother or father really stressed this and I didn't listen. So now, because I know the importance of it, I'm gonna stress it to my kids, but who knows if they're going to listen. But since we're getting close to Christmas, it's right around the corner, dude.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we got like fucking two weeks. Dude, it's like 11 days. I think we got yeah, fucking less than two weeks. Yeah, less than two weeks.

Speaker 2:

Do you know who Krampus is?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's like the Grinch. Do you know the? Do you know who Krampus is? Yeah, that he. It's like the Grinch, do you? I've seen the movie. It's not like the Grinch. I've seen the movie.

Speaker 2:

But do you know the story behind Krampus?

Speaker 4:

In a sense it's like an evil Santa Claus right.

Speaker 2:

Well, he's, essentially he's like a, a counterpart to.

Speaker 4:

Of Santa Claus, saint Nicholas the counterpart to saint nicholas.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he takes instead of gifts where, yeah, whereas santa claus rewards good children with gifts, krampus punished children. Yeah, but it's kind of fucked up how he. He would punish them like there's like in fables and shit. Krampus would like beat them with birch branches and then, I guess, stuffing them into a sack and taking them back to his lair and then also like torturing and eating them. Like there's a dark, it's a dark history behind krampus, and I guess the origins are in pre-christian alpine traditions and pagan celebrations of the winter solstice.

Speaker 4:

I think that that was just a person, like a genuine person doing that back in the day and they just made it into this story. Yeah, into a story. It was a real person abducting kids and treating them like that.

Speaker 2:

It's a German word that comes from kramping, which means claw, so they made this because apparently the the original krampus, he's like a half goat head, half demon like a, like the devil, in the sense yeah, basically.

Speaker 2:

And then I guess there's countries out there like austria, germ, hungary and the Czech Republic. They celebrate the Krampus Like they legit have parades. I think I forget what it was. I think it's on December 5th and they have a celebration celebrating this creature and I guess it's called I'm'm gonna screw these up because these are foreign ass words but I guess there's a parade where people dress up as krampus to scare spectators almost like a day of the dead halloween, where people will.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I know, there's two different meanings but, it's the same thing where parade dress up, but like it's made to scare other spectators and I guess it's called krampus sleuth and then there's holiday cards featuring krampus, like there's countries out there that full-blown believe in it like believe in this shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because there's a lot of uh places in mexico they believe in, like the. It's called Santa Muerte and they dress up as a devil, like full on like devil suits like like, not just your typical costume like homemade stuff that looks like, you know, like Comic Con is where they dress up completely like the characters and stuff like that and they put it together. That's how they do it and they celebrate um like the devil, in a sense that they dance and put music and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Why are they celebrating the devil like what?

Speaker 4:

that to them it's like a religion.

Speaker 2:

To them it's like a religion so so, but are we talking about like satanist? Yeah, okay so like satanist. That's the origin behind it.

Speaker 4:

They're celebrating the devil, right, but then some people, um, like one is called, uh, listen to, which is the mother of death in a sense. You know it's, it's in biblical and stuff, but, um, some people take it out of the bible context and they look at it as um, like a saint that gives you um when you pray to, and they for like good luck and fortunes and stuff like that okay, yeah, because it's.

Speaker 2:

I'm looking over this right now and it's kind of like that. Where they, in austria specifically, they have an annual krampus parade where, like I said, young men in town dress up as the creature and parade through the streets and it's like a pagan ritual meant to disperse winter ghosts. So I guess to them it's to scare off winter ghosts. They march dressed in fursuits and carved wooden masks and they carry cowbells. I guess the tradition is having a resurgence through austria, germany, like those countries that I said. So it's like it's still a big thing and like it's even gaining some recognition in in the united states, like you said. I think there's like at least two or three krampus movies out yeah made, maybe in the last 10 years, uh, regarding that creature.

Speaker 2:

And the thing is that krampus's roots has nothing to do with christmas. Instead, it dates back to pre-germanic paganism in the region and I guess his name, like I said it, comes from german krampman krampin, which means claw, and the tradition that it has is that the son of the norse god of the underworld hell. So I don't know if you know anything about norse mythology, but you know how norse mythology and greek mythology are kind of similar.

Speaker 2:

Well, I guess, like the like the devil and, uh, hades hell is that god in norse mythology, and I guess krampus is supposed to be the sun yeah, yeah, pretty much but I guess during the 12th century of course the catholic church had to get involved and they attempted to banish krampus celebrations because of his resemblance to the devil so let let there you go. The Catholic Church has to control shit because it goes against their belief. It says more eradication attempts followed in 1934 at the hands of Austria's conservative Christian Social Party, but none of it held, and Krampus emerged as a much feared and beloved holiday force.

Speaker 4:

I never asked you. You're not very religious, are you?

Speaker 2:

nope, and I've had this conversation with other people my, my stance on religion is that it's not right, not wrong. It's very hard to believe that there is one God and he's been doing this all by himself and all that, like I. I think there's. There's a lot more to just believing in one religion and that and not being open-minded to anything else. So that's that's where I stand. On that. I heard on the radio that somebody's developing is it smell-a-vision or like taste-a-vision? So if you're watching a cooking show on TV, you'll have a device that will link with that TV show and you'll be able to lick something. I don't know it'll be a controller or whatever, but you'll be able to lick it and taste what they're making on TV.

Speaker 4:

I'm telling you, next 10, 10 years, don't let the porn industry get into that. That's what. That's what they were saying. Don't let the porn industry touch that, because long distance relationships?

Speaker 2:

yeah, would be awesome oh yeah, like oh baby, I mean they have, get your, get your remote out, down on you, pull the fucking pussy out but I'm serious, man, like shit, like that's gonna happen, like remember it used to be a joke. Oh, smell a vision yeah well, I'm sure, just like how they're trying to make stuff where you could taste on tv, I'm sure they'll make it to where you could smell stuff and touch stuff. But that's like how you said like if somebody is able to perfect all the senses smell, touch, uh, taste, feel like all that dude, let the porn industry get a hold of that oh yeah and dude ain't nobody gonna be going out there dating.

Speaker 2:

Because now they could, they could pop on their vr, hook up whatever machinery they they could, and then they could just.

Speaker 4:

Which is crazy, because that could drop the HIV. That too, I didn't even think about that. You're right.

Speaker 2:

But can you imagine porn will go from a multi-billion dollar industry to a multi-trillion dollar industry.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

If people are able to have sex but not really have sex.

Speaker 4:

And not have nothing attached to it.

Speaker 2:

Right, that would be crazy. It's going to come.

Speaker 4:

You know that's going to come. A lot of introverts would love that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's going to happen, because at that point you're like well, if I got this machine and I could feel, hear, taste everything that I can, the same way, just having regular sex, why would I even go out and work to be with a woman? I'll just hook up my machine.

Speaker 4:

No, nagging, no nothing. Yeah, no feelings attached at all and you can just pick what you want I know.

Speaker 3:

Compared to just I'm stuck to one and you could just pick what you want. I know.

Speaker 2:

Compared to just I'm stuck to one, you could just pay.

Speaker 4:

Imagine downloading celebrities oh, you would run out. You would run out of celebrities. You'd be like, oh, that would probably drop our population like I mean yeah, it would take.

Speaker 2:

It may not be as quick, but if people are not going out there.

Speaker 4:

I don't think so, because you can also do like a sperm bank thing that too.

Speaker 2:

But if people are getting sexual relief and people are getting because I'm sure sex wouldn't be the only thing you could get you could probably download your own girlfriend and boyfriend yeah, and if you could, feel and you could talk, like if you could do everything with a real person with a vr system.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people are not even going to care to go start a relationship with the real person because they'll have that technology at home now. Granted, I'm sure something like that is is one way far away, but probably not too far away. But two gonna buy it be probably be hella expensive at first, like for it to be like a commercial thing where majority of people could afford it. We're talking probably way down the line yeah, like how elon has his robots yeah there you go, there's your robot, girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

You don't need nothing where it's like that you just shut it off and go to bed like I wouldn't be surprised if, if the world came to that, population goes down, like you said, illness will go down and like all that stuff. But it's got its pros and cons to it, but then, like I said, the population goes down and the world's going to be fucked and that, like I said, that's true, but then, like a lot of people would try to perfect the lifespan too, You'd be living like fucking 200 years.

Speaker 4:

I'm sure that's far away from now, but that'd be wild, yeah, like how the lie about Back to the Future, saying in 2024 I'm going to have flying cars, yeah we're still waiting for our flying cars. Barely on electric, yeah, but that would be something to be able to pick, whatever woman, whatever you, whatever yeah, whatever you want at that point, that would be great then.

Speaker 2:

Um, that brings me to I'm curious. You are single right now, right? Correct so I know and we won't get too much into it, but I'm just curious from my own information, like what's your ideal girl, oh God?

Speaker 4:

I want to know. No, I want to know. I want to know Ideal as in what you mean like personality-wise, physical-wise.

Speaker 2:

So let's start with personality, personality, and then give me look-wise and then just give me like what you want to see in, like a wife type of.

Speaker 4:

Aspect yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, personality-wise, what are you looking for? What's your ideal?

Speaker 4:

Personality-wise yeah, a good sense of humor. I have a fucked up sense of humor. I have some dark humor and I have some Like this humor. It's like teasing, but slight. I guess it would be slightly disrespectful, but I don't see it that way?

Speaker 2:

I don't see it that way. Someone who could like jab, like give jabs and like talk shit about you. But you know we're playing around.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, talk shit or joke around and be like oh, I'm like, oh, I'll be slightly insecure, but I'm not insecure. I'll put myself in that spot just for the humor-wise Like she jokes around, but like sit your fat ass down. No, I'll be like oh, you're out and about flirting around, aren't you? We take it home, yeah.

Speaker 4:

You know Stuff like that, and a lot of girls will be like I'm not no ho in this shit. I'm like, I'm not calling you ho, I'm just joking with you yeah okay you know, be like, oh, I'm gonna take this guy home, you know. Flip it onto me. And be like bye, black bitch. Where the fuck do you think you are like? That's my body the fuck you.

Speaker 2:

Talking about you're mine, that's mine okay stuff like that all right, so good sense of humor.

Speaker 4:

Um, I'm a i'mvert. I'm real shy, I'm real chill, I'm not great with talking to people, I'm a complete introvert and I want someone that's more extrovert, just because I want to experience things that I know by myself I wouldn't experience that will push you to do stuff. Something I know I would not push myself to go do that at all. Yeah, someone that's more caring that isn't really we all like nice things, but someone that isn't completely bougie just because so not high maintenance, but likes to take care of herself.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because I love nails, I love manicures, pedicures and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Do you like makeup on a woman?

Speaker 4:

I do I do Nothing like fucking caked on, because I want to wake up to you in the morning and be like you're still beautiful, no matter without it, but something that brings you up to that.

Speaker 1:

When it's needed, you can do it.

Speaker 4:

Gotcha, but I prefer natural beauty.

Speaker 2:

I'm the same way too. That's why I asked you.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no, no. Not that you have to wear it every single day. If you want to wear lipstick, mascara, stuff like that, sure, but that caking stuff on Weddings.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes you see some women that just like do you?

Speaker 4:

not see how much makeup is on you. Their beat they face every day.

Speaker 2:

Just look normal it looks like you could just like ice cream frosting Completely Like just scoop that shit off your face. Completely.

Speaker 4:

It looks like a bunch of powder. It's bad dude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all right. So is that pretty much the bulk of it, or do we got one more thing to add?

Speaker 4:

That's a bunch, but personality wise, yeah, okay and don't be shy.

Speaker 2:

What physical appearance, oh jeez. And it's not even like. Just what do you like? I like them short okay, I'm tall, so shorter than you, of course shorter than me.

Speaker 4:

I'm like 6. I'm 5'11, 6'1, 6'2 yeah with depending on footwear. Yeah, you know boots, shit like that gym shoes 6'2", yeah, with, depending on footwear. Yeah, you know, boots, shit like that Gym shoes. I'm like six foot, it's an inch. I like them short, nothing past like five, ten, you know five, nine, five, eight, five, six, five, four.

Speaker 4:

So, even if a girl was Not a complete turn off. It's just a simple fact that, like it's a preference. It's a preference Because me, I'm a Hispanic, so if I want to go to a baile, I wear boots that have like Slight heel. Well, I want my Ideal woman To be able to wear heels Whatever height she wants.

Speaker 2:

I got it so not be tower over me, so it's not necessarily.

Speaker 3:

A deal breaker? No, not a deal breaker. No, not a deal breaker. It's just like a preference.

Speaker 4:

It's just a preference just because of that, but shorter. I like them thin, but with something on them, you know, some kind of meat. I like girls with curly hair, like I said natural look Not like. No fake implants and stuff like that, of course, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I'm not a big feet person, just something that doesn't look like what the fuck's wrong with your feet. I like a girl that can maintain her nails, like even if it's just natural. Yeah, but I do like the fake nails stuff like that, like when a girl scratches my back like the long, like the super long nails.

Speaker 2:

No, not no crazy long shit, not like some shit. To my speaker asshole. Just something that's like normal you know like Just normal maintenance on the nails, Not even normal.

Speaker 4:

You can do fake nails like with some length to them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

But nothing like no three, four, five inch type of like nails where you're like, where you like literally look and you're like, how do you wipe your ass without? Yeah, yeah, that, no, um, that's really about it, you know? Um, an ass or a boob kind of guy? Um, I prefer a little bit of both, um, but what do you prefer more? I prefer more, a little bit more ass everybody says even my mother, my kids says I'm a boob man, no.

Speaker 2:

Because I know like, over time, the boobs are like the one thing, that like. So you're an ass man. Just solely on the fact that, statistically, tits are going to sag rather than ass. Oh yeah, for sure, I like that, for sure, everything's in the future. I like that, everything's in the future. All right, I got that For sure.

Speaker 3:

Everything's in the future. I like that. Everything's in the future. I got you Everything's in the future, okay, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, when you see that fat girl in the gym. You might have to invest some time in that, Because once you see that diamond in the roof, yeah, it's worth it.

Speaker 2:

All right, you know she's loyal to you. So, just Like you can make it quick, give me like two or three, just like traits that you would just love a wife. I'm talking about someone that like five, ten years from now you're married and you're like I love my wife because she does A, b and C. What are those like two or three traits that you would love a wife to do or be?

Speaker 4:

So, like for me, would it be considered like a nurturing person, like it's like someone that can take care of you, like someone that can cook for you, someone that can clean for you and stuff like that, I think.

Speaker 2:

in my opinion Would you ball that separately or one together. I think that comes with being in a relationship. Yeah, Like in a healthy, healthy relationship.

Speaker 2:

Obviously there's relationships where women treat you like shit, yeah, but I think if you are happily married, then that nurturing I think will automatically come, because you guys are wife and husband, so you guys are supposed to kind of take care of each other. But, and as of right now, if you want to say nurturing as far as kind of like looking out for you, taking care of you, supporting your dreams goals then yeah, we can use it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we'll put that together like like someone that's like very nurturing, caring very supportive, yeah, very supportive um someone I can talk to, no matter because um with me. I have a lot of like issues I I I close out my world not normal for a lot of guys, especially hispanics, like we talked about earlier yeah, but yeah, I get that someone I can trust and talk to where like even though statistically no man should open up to a woman like that because they use that against you um or yeah, potentially, yeah, yeah normally it's like that once a woman sees you cry, it's like it's kind of over with man you think so?

Speaker 2:

do you think that depends? It depends a majority. Yes, can't be open majority majority.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, you can't, because then they feel like you really can't protect really that's interesting and I'm not knocking it. That's how you feel, obviously I just, yeah, that's how I feel about it, but I think um, I think communication wise and being on the same level to make a marriage work.

Speaker 2:

I think feelings and need to be exchanged and I think if you show that you're a little vulnerable sometimes, I think that's good for the relationship. It's just what I want where I can be vulnerable towards you not, you use it, spin around and try to like use my own weakness against me so basically, you don't want a woman that's going to be manipulative. Basically, yeah, technically, yeah. Like this isn't manipulative.

Speaker 4:

Let's use that one. Let's use one more thing. Damn. Let me think about that one, I mean that's fine too.

Speaker 2:

We could leave it there. I mean, that sounds pretty damn good, no, I got one more.

Speaker 4:

What was that? I want someone, that Total guy thing, maybe thing, someone that's very sexually active towards me. That wants me often Because I'm a little bit weird in that aspect. I like, when a woman wants to engage me more than I didn't, what I have to try because it makes me feel like you genuinely well, you feel wanted yeah, yeah, I get that compared to well, no shit, I know your ass wants some shit but it's nice to no give me some.

Speaker 2:

It's nice. It's nice to feel wanted.

Speaker 4:

It's nice to feel yeah, make me like be open with me if you like this, like that yeah, express it. Let me know. I will try to please you in any kind of way you want no, I get that man absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I think I think everybody, I think everybody wants that ideally, everybody wants that Ideally, everybody wants that. But some people, for whatever reason, don't know how to reciprocate that, or they don't know how to.

Speaker 4:

I feel like people are very scared to be judged on what they want.

Speaker 2:

That too, but that's where the whole communication comes in.

Speaker 2:

If you don't tell your significant other that this is what I want, and even if you do, but if you don't make them understand like, hey, this is something that really is about me or really something that I truly value, and if you can't do that as a partner, then you need to reconsider. Like, those are the talks I think in, in my opinion, that need to be had between partners. If there's something that you really value or there's something that you truly believe in and that's that you think it's gonna make you feel better as a person, then you need to share that with your partner, and if your partner can't reciprocate that, then there might be some issues that need to happen. But you're right, yeah, everything should be out in the open, everything should be communicated. You guys should want to fulfill each other's needs and wants and if you can, then hell yeah, man, that sounds like a amazing relationship yeah, hopefully I can find it you're young dude say that.

Speaker 2:

You got plenty of time, man.

Speaker 4:

Time is against me.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not.

Speaker 4:

You're not even what you mean, you heard my ankle pop like three four times sitting here, I got joints popping all the time.

Speaker 2:

You're fine, man, get up, like my back hurts. You're not even in your 30s yet. What are you? 28?

Speaker 4:

I'm going to be 29 in a month.

Speaker 2:

Okay, still not in your 30s yet. Yeah, you got plenty of time it's knocking, bro.

Speaker 4:

Knocking, I mean even then, like how a lot of women now it's a race against time with them. So you know.

Speaker 2:

More so for women. Yeah, I will agree, so you know like in a 30-year-old, like for me.

Speaker 4:

I know I have my three kids, but would it be nice to meet someone that doesn't. It is because they're more readily available to me Sure, yeah, but am I against someone that has kids? No, not at all.

Speaker 2:

But that's a whole other thing with me is, the longer I wait, the less I have more opportunities of finding someone that's's yeah, but also you don't want to rush anything either. No, like, in order to truly have that relationship that you're seeking, that stuff can't be rushed. If it's, if it's to happen and it's to happen your way, then it's. It's gonna happen at its own time at the rate I'm going, I'm gonna die alone.

Speaker 4:

Shut up and I think, I think I'm gonna end up getting someone from mexico and that's what I'm saying, and you and that might be.

Speaker 2:

But don't think that it's not gonna happen or it's gonna take a long time, because you don't know who's gonna show up in your life. You don't know when it's gonna happen. You could be, it could be in the craziest place, you could be taking a vacation somewhere and like, let's say, you go to mexico and boom, oh you, you met a person down there that you didn't think you were expecting to do. Shit happens all the time.

Speaker 4:

Man don't oh, I bet, but, and sometimes I would like someone that likes speaks both languages a lot of good things happen when you least expect it to.

Speaker 2:

This is true. Yeah, this is true, but I will leave you with um six things that in the last few weeks. I read over these little notes and tidbits every day. I read these every day and it makes me think in more of a like a personal growth, and it's the title is called six uncomfortable truths that will set you free, and we don't really have to go into them are you gonna text these to me?

Speaker 4:

I could text it so I can read them every morning yeah, I could text it to you.

Speaker 2:

um, the first one is you can't save everyone. Learn to let go and focus on those who truly matter, and I think a lot of this goes to towards more of like the people pleasers that try to please everyone but but at the end of the day, you have to learn to not get stuck on it so much and just focus on the people that truly matter and like in my opinion, that's family, and like your immediate family, kids, significant other, and that's how I look at it, and regret hurts more than failure. Taking a chance is better than wondering what if, and a prime example of that is me starting up this podcast. I probably spent a year just like thinking of ways to get this podcast going and limbo yeah, and it just like oh, because I made an excuse of this and that.

Speaker 2:

But I think my wife said one day I'm like hey, you need to get this podcast going like you said you're gonna do it. We need to do it. You're like you know what? I'm just gonna fucking do it. If I start off slow, I start off slow you need to get two more mics and get her, oh yeah, and. And the mother, my kids.

Speaker 4:

I agree and we would need to make this into an actual game.

Speaker 2:

And we could, and that's the plan, but in my head I don't want to throw a hell of money at it until something picks up but if I continue to have like I'm having a great time, so that small investment to get another mic, it's not going to break the bank.

Speaker 2:

But, yeah, it would make the show more fun and I totally agree, but that's just an example that I think about when it comes to that quote. Another one is growth requires pain. The things that challenge you most are the ones that transform you. And believe me, brother, like you know some of the shit that I've gone through and some of the stuff in my past, like I really think and I physically am seeing it in person like in order to grow as a person just me specifically it requires some pain, it requires a lot of, like a obstacle, it requires that hard work that you don't really want to do, but it's necessary and I I think that speaks very true to everybody yeah the other one keep that one

Speaker 4:

yeah I wish that one's personalities wasn't that one?

Speaker 2:

yeah, a lot, like I said. And it it takes yeah, it takes a lot to learn what you're supposed to have learned a long time ago. You know I got two more. The other one is not everybody wants what's best for you. Learn to recognize who uplifts you and holds you back. And I'll refer to my wife. You know not, I don't think I had very much issues with like fakers or haters in my life, but when it comes to someone who wants the best for me, my ride or die is my wife, and it's just to really have that soak in like. That's why I look at this all the time, because it just makes me think of her and it makes me just appreciate her so much more.

Speaker 2:

And the last one is actions matter more than attentions. What you do defines who you are and not what you plan to do. And this is another one. This is probably my biggest takeaway or my biggest motivator, because, not just in marriage, but a lot of stuff that I've done just in my life, a lot of it has come to where I talk a big game and I don't follow through or I'm not consistent enough and I don't make any leeway, and just in. I think that's really important in relationships, because if you can't back up your game, then what's the point? You lose credibility, you lose trust. I think you lose respect, especially if it's more than one occasion. I think if you're going to say you're going to do something, it needs to be done, to say you're going to do something, it needs to be done, and I think that speaks huge volume in relationships. And then it also speaks volume in, like, any goals you have or any like, any type of uh, life experience really, because, like, if you have a like my goal, this podcast, my goal is to get listeners out there. My goal is to grow this podcast.

Speaker 2:

If it happens, is it going to happen? A month or two? Maybe people get big on sillier things. Yeah, is it going to take me two years? Years? Maybe it may take that long, but if I'm not consistent and I'm not saying sticking by my own or my own values or my own um can't the word is eluding me right now but if I can't stick to my game plan, then it's just another thing that I gave up on and because I wasn't able to stick to it. So, yeah, I'll text you those quotes. They're not. They're not even quotes, they're just like, like I said, little notes and tidbits.

Speaker 2:

But I appreciate it actually like like I said, every day I I'll read at least one time, because that way it just makes me think about my life, my situation, my marriage. And what?

Speaker 4:

you should do next. Oh yeah, and what you should next?

Speaker 2:

It makes me think about it, it makes me ponder on it, it makes me plan, it makes me be like damn you know, and it makes me ponder on the shit that I did back then that was that I need to correct or do better as I get older.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I'll send that to you and yeah, man, we've been talking probably for about two hours now, so I'll cut it off and hey, I appreciate you coming on. Hey, you said you were going to be all shy and stuff, but I think you opened up a good amount.

Speaker 4:

We'll do another one. We could do it, or I can be less, not feel a little more comfortable. Yeah, I could just like fuck it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but we shall see, yeah Well thanks, but we shall see. Yeah, we shall see, well, thanks again, and just if you can just try to get my podcast out there, tell anybody, or anybody who you think would be interested, and try to get that word of mouth.

Speaker 4:

For sure, try to find a crackhead you can have an interview on All right man, all right, appreciate it. Yep, all right, you're going to edit that part out, right where I said that, yeah, edit that part out, Everything's taken.

Speaker 2:

Oh God Holy shit dude.