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Confident, Not Cocky
I Question Women’s Logic w/ Dani
What if dissatisfaction in a women’s relationship led them to question their sexual orientation? I wonder it sometime. Join me, Charles Campos Jr., and my insightful guest, Dani, as we examine the fluidity of sexuality and the emotional connections that might drive women to explore same-sex relationships. We dive into the social perceptions that shape these choices and how they differ across genders, offering an unfiltered look at these complex personal journeys. With Dani’s perspective, we unravel the intriguing dynamics of sexual orientation and societal norms, sparking a conversation that challenges conventional wisdom.
Navigating the dating world through the lens of a woman is an adventure of its own, filled with expectations and standards that can sometimes seem impossible to meet. In this episode, we discuss whether women really do have an easier time finding partners than men and what underlies these perceptions. We offer practical advice on setting realistic priorities in relationships and tackle the age-old debate about whether size matters, reminding listeners that connection and skill often trump physical attributes. Our chat encourages a reevaluation of expectations, aiming to guide both men and women toward more fulfilling connections.
And what about the gym—a place of both transformation and quirky shared experiences? We share personal anecdotes about the everyday irritations of gym life, from equipment faux pas to the peculiarities of workout habits. With humor and candor, we explore the importance of maintaining respect and focus in shared spaces, while reflecting on body transformations and the influence of unsolicited advice. Our discussion takes a playful detour into cultural perceptions of anatomy, offering a mix of laughter, curiosity, and thoughtful insight into how we perceive ourselves and others. Tune in for a journey through relationships, societal norms, and the humorous side of fitness culture.
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Speaker 2:All right, here we go again. Got another one. Actually, I got a familiar face here. I got Danny back.
Speaker 3:How you doing. I'm doing good and you.
Speaker 2:I'm good, so I wanted to bring you back on because the first episode was kind of just off the whim. I really didn't have any structure, like my last handful of episodes been, so I wanted to bring you back on having more structure. Wanted to bring you back on having more structure, hopefully a better, uh, a better layout, but overall shows and I just I just told you before the show started our episode, which was the first episode so far, still has the most downloads and which is pretty impressive, because I think that episode was almost two hours long. It was a very long episode and it was just kind of everywhere, so I'm still surprised that it's still the most downloaded. As of right now, what I've been tending to do especially going into 2025, is, throughout the week, I just jot down a bunch of shit that I'm just either curious about or I'll just be thinking to myself.
Speaker 3:Uh-oh.
Speaker 2:Some of it is out there, but you know what, I don't care. But my question to you, and you can tell me your opinion on this, if it even makes sense, because some of my thoughts don't make sense all the time but do you think women turn lesbian because they haven't got any good dick?
Speaker 2:no you think it's a? Do you think it's easier for women to bounce back and forth? Like it's easier for women to bounce back and forth, Like it's easier for women to be bi than it is for a man to be bi?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:So then, I just think that women who aren't really satisfied in bed, I think they tend to want to go to the other side, like the same sex no you don't think so, you don't think that's like like even a percentage of the case?
Speaker 3:they'll turn to it, but not the satisfaction.
Speaker 2:So you think it's more of a you, so you think they're looking for more of an emotional connection rather than the satisfaction in bed yeah, you could find satisfaction with anyone yeah, that's true, but you just try a different one. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So what if a woman just no, no, you just try a different man.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying what if a woman just keeps trying different men and they're like man, I can't find a man outside the box.
Speaker 3:You know, we all types but sometimes you got to hop out of the type.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I just think that a woman is could easily choose to go lesbian, unless you think the whole going to a same sex is not a choice. Do you think it's more of a biological component?
Speaker 3:I think it's biological, but then I think people choose it like more on emotional rather than like sexual. So, like I could see, if you get tired of not having that emotional connection with a man and you want to try, because women we're women we connect more emotionally. So I can see you wanting to try women because you want to connect on the emotional level, but not because of satisfaction.
Speaker 2:See. But then that statement is like do you think that's true for men? I mean, men generally don't really are not on the same level, like emotionally wise, as women. So for a guy to say they go gay, I think it's it's totally different, like ballpark, because a lot of women will be hetero like throughout their adult year and then just want to switch. Like I've seen stories of married and it happens on both sides, but stories of married women who end up leaving their husband for another woman and I mean, like I said, the same thing happens. And I mean, like I said, the same thing happens.
Speaker 2:There's some, sure, there's scenarios where men leave their wives because you know to be with another man. But I think if a woman and maybe not 100% of the time, but I think women out there if they're not being satisfied or if they're not, if they don't have that, like you said, that emotional connection or can't seem to find an emotional connection, then I think they tend to go to a woman. But I think that it's easier for a woman to kind of like bounce back, say they go and have a relationship with a woman. I think it's a lot easier for a woman to be like ah, this really didn't pan out like I wanted to, and so they come back to men, but then then they just claim they're bi. I don't see that really being a case for men, do you?
Speaker 3:no, I think men are very straightforward.
Speaker 2:You're either gay or you're straight. I feel like most of the time and this is me generalizing, but I think most of the time men, when they come out to be gay or maybe when they realize they're gay, I think it's at a really young age. And of course, women I'm sure there's women that come out or maybe realize when they're young, but I think most of the four men, it's like they're either new at a young age and then they just knew from there, and it just maybe takes some years for them to come out of the closet, and nowadays it's a lot easier to do it rather than 10-15 years ago. But I just think men like you you said is more straightforward it's either you're gay and you realize at a young age or you're not. But women, I just think, tend to play both fields, kind of like at their own convenience, if that makes sense. And I just think a lot of it is maybe not a lot, but I think some of it is because a woman can't find a satisfying partner and I think that they get bored or they get frustrated. So they're like, hey, I'm gonna try women, and I just think it's easier for them to bounce back and forth and but then okay.
Speaker 2:So this kind of goes into my other thought that I have and like the whole, the whole thing and I've seen it on TikTok the whole thing about where women choose. They choose to be single because they there aren't good guys out there or they just haven't found the one and they're tired of dating. So they're like you know what, I'm gonna choose to be single. And it could be two months, three months, six months, shit. I've seen women claim they've gone single, single, for like over a year. But so do you think that's really a choice that they're making or don't you think it's? I mean, if you're going through guys and you're not finding someone that's sticking, then maybe it's not the guy and maybe it's something wrong with you right, I mean, am I?
Speaker 2:am I right about that or do you think women have like have that? The rationale is logical when it says they choose to be single because there aren't good guys out there I think, instead of saying they choose to be single, like we have to watch our words.
Speaker 3:So like when us, as women, say I choose to be single, it's we have to watch our words. So like when us, as women, say I choose to be single, it's kind of like, yeah, there are good guys out there, and sometimes they're right there in front of you, but like it's not the guy you want, so you are just like, you know there's no connection, you don't click or you try to find any little wrong with them and you're just like there's no good guys out there.
Speaker 2:So isn't it? So if, as a woman and it could be a man, it is, it doesn't matter. But just for the topic at hand, for women trying to find my words or how to explain it, it's more like we got to work on ourselves.
Speaker 3:So, when we're saying we choose to be single, I think we mean like we want to sit back and kind of work on ourselves, because at the end of the day we're going to realize why none of these relationships are working. What's going on? We're going to dig deep and you know like we're going to see our own flaws that we all need to work on.
Speaker 2:That makes sense and that's why I wanted to get your opinion on it, because one you're a female and two you're single. So I figured I'd get your opinion on that. But don't you think part of that rationale, or part of the outcome of that rationale, is a lot of these people I see they have children. So clearly I think children play a part in that as far as finding the right suitor, because for a man to, you know, potentially, take on kids, or even multiple kids, that takes a, takes a special man right to to take that on. And when women are dating out there, you know, especially especially young women, I mean we're talking there's women out there who are probably in their mid-20s that have multiple kids and probably even earlier than that.
Speaker 2:And then, obviously, when you get older, or women who are in their 30s and have kids and hopefully they're a little older, but even women in their 30s that have kids, I'm sure it is to find a suitable match that will, you know, accommodate, let's just say, baggage, having multiple makes it harder too right, I, I absolutely.
Speaker 2:And so I think, like you said, you said it perfectly. I think it's women are trying to figure out like damn, what is wrong with me, or why can't I find a guy that will stay, or why can't I find a good guy? And then I think, after all the failures, they do the whole self-reflection, and I think part of that comes with like damn, I have children, we got I got this going on and it, it's hard out there. But I just don't like the idea that women are saying like, well, I've been single for a year because it's my choosing, I've been trying to do this, this, this and that.
Speaker 3:And that's when they're avoidance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so, and let's not completely generalize. I'm sure there's women who say fuck men for a while, let me get my career going, let me get this taken care of and by all means do what you got to do. But it's, it's just you can kind of tell.
Speaker 3:I mean technically that still falls in the category of avoidant, so it's like yeah you're self-focused, they're just giving them, but you're avoiding you know the matter, like you're not ready to sit down and look back at the relationship because you know it could be painful, it could be traumatizing. Whatever happened in the relationship, you end up avoiding it and you throw yourself in either self-love, work, school, like at the end of the day, you are avoiding the situation at hand.
Speaker 2:That happened yeah, absolutely, and I think what I've been saying. I think a lot. I just noticed.
Speaker 3:Interesting.
Speaker 2:But interesting enough. But we're humans, we are a species that want to mate and don't want to be alone. Nobody wants to be alone and I think it comes down to a mental state. It comes down to a mental state because, yeah, I'm sure women, especially with kids and are in the dating realm like, yeah, they want to find someone to spend time with and ultimately, you know, have have them be their long-term you know partner.
Speaker 2:So for someone to say they, they are choosing to not try to be with someone man, I mean, I think maybe initially they mean it, but I don't think it takes very long for for you not to have that special someone to like, talk to or text to every day. Yeah, I'm sure you have friends, but you know what I mean, like that romantic type of relationship, because at some point, you know, especially if you're, if you have kids, your, your every day becomes pretty, probably overwhelming Wake up, take care of kids, go to go to work, come home, take care of your kids, feed your kids, take care of yourself. I'm sure if you go to the gym, go to the gym, and it's just like an everyday cycle and all you really do is just have conversations with your kid, you know, and I'm sure that gets lonely.
Speaker 2:But I just I thought that was was pretty maybe the right word is not arrogant for women to claim that they're choosing to be single because they can't find the right guy. I think a lot of it is their personality, their baggage, even, like the environment or the location that they're at, like maybe it's not necessarily that you can't find a good guy. It's maybe your preference and your standards and everything else is not on point. So you keep going through these guys that have the same traits or their personality or background and, yeah, they're blowing up in your face. But for you to say that you, you know, you're choosing all this and that you, you could help not, you know, you know what I'm trying to say I just think that's so silly and and it doesn't like make me mad, but it just when I hear stuff like that, it's just like really like who?
Speaker 2:who you trying to fool?
Speaker 3:you know that totally wrong, totally wrong and I'm sure other men feel the same way who are good guys yeah and like I said it, it definitely goes both ways, but let's go back to it.
Speaker 2:I think it's a lot of hell easier for a woman to get a man than it is for a man to get a woman a woman or a man has to work probably four or five times harder to just get an attention of a woman that they think is is attractive. But a woman could go out and anytime they want, and all they gotta do is bat their eyelashes, or you know?
Speaker 3:whatever, just not have a rbf yeah it, it's.
Speaker 2:It's so much easier and that's what that's another thing like. I'm sure there's a lot more depressed single men out there, you know, thinking, thinking to themselves that man, why can't I find a woman?
Speaker 2:And then there's women out there who are complaining like oh my God, why can't I find a decent guy after they just went through four guys, four or five different guys that year alone. Through four guys, four or five different guys that year alone. Like I'm sure a lot of men would love to have that problem, just to be able to say that they went, they've dated four or five men or women and can't find something. So it's definitely a lot easier for a woman to find someone.
Speaker 2:But I think it comes down to well, if you're going through men and you're frustrated, rather than just say fuck men and take whatever a year off, how about you look at yourself in the mirror and maybe change your standards, your preferences? You're just your whole thought process about dating. So then well, let me ask you and get your opinion. So if a woman hasn't had any luck, say, let's say let's be a little dramatic let's say, in three years a woman just hasn't had sex, hasn't really maybe dated two or three men in a two-year period, like, and they, and they came up to you and be like danny, what am I doing wrong? What should I do? What kind of advice would you give that woman?
Speaker 3:honestly, like how you said, you gotta kind of like relook at your standards. What? What is it that you truly want, like, what are some things that are needs, or like bonuses, and what are some that like no, he has to have this Because obviously we all have our ideal person that you know. We want them to have this trade and this trade and that and that, but nobody's perfect and you ain't gonna find a man that has everything you want on your list.
Speaker 3:So it's like at the end of the day, it's like write everything that you like and really focus on, like the main three or the top five that are like I truly want this in a man and you you know these other things. You know there'll be bonuses or add-ons, but if they don't have it, it's not a deal breaker for me. Like these top three or these top five are my deal breakers, and try focusing more on finding that, rather than you have this list of 30 things and you're focusing on something that's like you can teach them that or that's something that can be learned.
Speaker 2:Like I can fix them type of mentality, yeah, like that's not something they have to have off the bat. Yeah, no for sure. I mean that's valid enough. Almost like a just do like a pros and cons type of scenario. Obviously it's different when trying to find you know, a partner, but definitely the same concept all right, you know, hey, that's, I think that's pretty good, I like that and all right.
Speaker 2:So let's, we'll go off on the whole rant about being single and all, and so I I looked this up the other day not by choice, because I found this on tiktok and not this specific topic that we're gonna go into but I found it funny and I think it's appropriate for me to ask you, because you're single but and I know this was kind of my big, not big thing, but curiosity, especially when I was younger but do you think dick size matters?
Speaker 3:if I wasn't sitting down, I would have fell out of I'm just curious, do you think it matters? I mean I would, I would say no because, honestly, it's what you can do with it.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's a fair.
Speaker 3:That's probably the most common Now, I guess to a certain extent, like you know, if you just small, small like you can't feel anything, you know, I don't know, but I mean, like it's what you can do with it, do you?
Speaker 2:think that really happens? Do you think a man is could be that small where a woman can't feel something?
Speaker 3:I think it's possible but I think it depends on the woman, like one woman might say he's too small and another woman would say you're perfect for me so do you think it's?
Speaker 2:do women have different? I don't even know how to say this. Do women have different sizes when it comes to your hole?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I've been told. Yeah, I've been told there's like Like I get like it stretches.
Speaker 2:Obviously you know, for you know giving birth reasons, but I wonder if women are just naturally maybe grow up with having different sizes.
Speaker 3:I don't know, men act like there is, but like like the whole saying, or if they just fill in your head, I know right, like the whole, if you hear the saying throwing a hot dog down the hallway that's from. We're the Millers, right? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:I was like man because I was thinking about the whole dick size thing, and now you got me thinking about the whole size.
Speaker 3:I heard there's different. Your lips look differently. I know that.
Speaker 2:I know that for sure. I know the lips definitely have their variety of shapes and sizes, but I just never thought about the fact like man, like what if a man is so small? Because I think the term micro penis is a real thing, like I think it's like a actual medical so I mean it could go for the same.
Speaker 3:That's why I was like some women might be like oh no, this is just too small, like you know it. It just, I guess, it depends on the woman. I, I guess you're right.
Speaker 2:I guess it all depends on the resilience of your yoohoo and what it could take or what, what feels good to you, and so going off that, what do you think is the average length? And let's just keep it to the us six or seven, you think that's the average damn you think that's the average size, six inches you know you'd be surprised the the actual average length of an erect penis is 5.1 to 5.5 inches. Damn, I was close. Damn you were on almost an inch and a half.
Speaker 3:And two inches off, I was like no. My final answer was six. I was like six.
Speaker 2:That's a huge difference.
Speaker 3:My final answer was six. I was half an inch off. But I know this they're also curved Left right up down. People don't know that.
Speaker 2:But they be curved. I've seen the ones that curve up, they curve up.
Speaker 3:People don't know that.
Speaker 2:You know what I've seen? The ones that curve up, they curve up, they curve left that's so weird. They curve right.
Speaker 3:They curve down. I've never seen that it's called Captain Hook.
Speaker 2:I've never seen one that curved down. Yeah, so the ones that curve, I wonder if that's like a, not a birth defect, but I wonder why.
Speaker 3:Man I should you're gonna have me look that up after this I think it's a birth defect, I think it just, it's just what it is.
Speaker 2:Well, so I'm saying, I'm not saying a birth defect, but there's, there has to be a a reason why they curve, and the fact that they generally all don't curve to the same. No, I think.
Speaker 3:I think it's the same as like sizing-wise, like they're all different sizes.
Speaker 2:It just varies from person to person. It's kind of yeah, Now I'm going to look that up Like some women like their boobs.
Speaker 3:Some is like predominantly bigger than the other.
Speaker 1:You're right, you can tell You're right.
Speaker 3:Some are like you can't really tell.
Speaker 1:Same thing with the lips, yeah.
Speaker 2:See, that's what I was like. I think it's just Shit.
Speaker 1:You watch After the show in my Google searches. It's going to say why do men?
Speaker 2:penises curve. That's going to be in my search engine moving forward. All right, so I want to play a real quick game then.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:So, considering that you thought that six to seven inches was the average, good Lord, I got a list of 10 countries that are the top 10.
Speaker 3:Jesus really I'm going to fail this.
Speaker 2:Well, let's see how many you can. I'm not asking you to tell me all 10, but I'm going to give you I won't even guess one, probably.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm curious about.
Speaker 2:I'll give you like four chances. So name me one country that's what I'm curious which I'll give you like four chances.
Speaker 3:So name me. Name me one country that's gonna be in this list and I'll tell you what the average size is in that country. I have to name the country. Can't you name the?
Speaker 2:countries, no, and then what? You're gonna guess the size? Yes, no, I want you to. I want you to think what's the country.
Speaker 3:Are you serious?
Speaker 2:I wasn't good oh my god, you don't know what a country is.
Speaker 3:Give me an example of a country like canada france spain um south africa egypt putting me on the slow, on the black.
Speaker 2:That's why I said you're on the shore bus right now, I am, so the fact that you don't even you weren't sure what a country is you're okay? Fine, let's switch it around, I'll give you the size or no, I'll give you the country. Good there, I'll give you the country, and then you gotta guess the size. All right, okay, good lord. Okay, good Lord, all right, nigeria, and you got to be within like a range.
Speaker 2:A range, so like if your guess could be 6.9 or 5.7, try to give me a number like that, because the range is not huge, but it differs and it uses the fraction. I would say so, what country did I give you the fraction? I would say so, what country did I?
Speaker 3:give you Nigeria.
Speaker 2:I gave you Nigeria. So what do you think?
Speaker 3:7 to an 8.5. Oh Lord.
Speaker 2:The average size in Nigeria is 6.69. Damn.
Speaker 1:Calm your expectations down a little bit.
Speaker 2:Calm your expectations, dear Lord. All right, then I'll give you another one. All right, so this is the 10th one. So it's obviously going to be lower than 6.69. So Columbia.
Speaker 3:I want to cry now.
Speaker 2:Columbia the average size. I would say Don't say like 6 to 7. Give me like no, no, no, I'm going to say like a 5.5 to a 6.5.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, I'm changing. I want 5.5 at the top. At the top 4.5 at the bottom.
Speaker 2:This is top 10 countries with the biggest. This at the top. At the top, 4.5 at the bottom.
Speaker 3:This is top 10 countries with the biggest you said, this is the lowest.
Speaker 2:No, I said on the top 10 list, on the top 10. So this list consists of the top 10 countries with the longest longs.
Speaker 3:Yes, but you said this is number 10. So he's got to be yeah number 10.
Speaker 2:There's like hundreds of countries.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so like they're the longest, but you said, it may seem like they're not going to be bigger than Nigeria.
Speaker 2:Right, but I said the range is very close. That's what I was saying. Give me like a number, like 6.3 or 6.7 or 6.1.
Speaker 3:I thought you said it's far.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. Okay, so then so Colombia 5.7 to a 6.3. 6.59.
Speaker 3:God damn it. I was close.
Speaker 2:So, all right, Now I'm going to give you the number one country that has the biggest penises by average. So it's Sudan, Sudan, Sudan, Sudan.
Speaker 3:Everybody's going to be like I need to find somebody in Sudan All right.
Speaker 2:So I don't want to range. Give me a one solid number. What do you think? The average 7.5, 7.5. So seven and a half, you were off roughly a little by a half, it's 7.5, 7.5. So seven and a half, you were off roughly a little by a half, it's 7.07 inches. Damn, can you imagine that? So in america we're like 5.3 average average. You go to sedan and these guys are packing.
Speaker 3:You can find a bigger dildo.
Speaker 2:Oh man, these guys are packing over there Americans. They weren't dead last. So there are countries out there who have, or I think, under 5.5. So I feel bad for those countries. But following close behind, though, where countries like you know, where North Korea is right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know Cambodia no do you know nepal? Nope well, you got one of the three. So in these countries, north korea has a 3.78 inches, 3.88 in cambodia and nepal with 3.93, so under four inches they still getting married though, so, like I said, it doesn't matter the women that live there, though, are clearly used to those it's about what you can do that is small though I believe in y'all people.
Speaker 3:It's about what you can do.
Speaker 2:We're still reproducing around the world. So apparently I don't. It don't matter in that way at all, but I was. I was curious what you would think, and good lord when you said, yeah, the average boom right off the bat six, seven inches. I'm like man you got high, you got very high expectations I would hate to see what your toys look like, good lord I do not own those, I just sell them, if you need me promote any.
Speaker 3:I can give y'all a lesson.
Speaker 2:So me and you, we go to the gym, and so you've been going strong for how long now?
Speaker 3:It's going to be a year in February. Oh my God, january is already over. It's going to be a year, probably in like two weeks Time flies All right.
Speaker 2:So you've been going solid, you've been going good for a whole year, so you've had enough time. You've spent enough time in the gym to kind of know what's up. Let's go over, let's talk about gym pet peeves. Do you got any? Yeah, because there's. I found like a like a survey that was taken, kind of a general top 10 pet peeves. So let's go through these pet peeves and let's get our own little intake on it, because some of them I don't think are as big of a deal, but there are some people who may find it the biggest pet peeve in the world when men wear leggings, and I'm talking about those nike pro
Speaker 3:leggings that is a pet peeve of mine. Take it off. I don't want to see it.
Speaker 2:Put it away I don't, and I don't think that was even on here. On here it's my. That's your personal pet yes, like no.
Speaker 3:It just put some shorts over it, like it. Just. It looks weird to me, it looks very weird fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2:so the first one, I think this is kind of a general for everyone People not wiping down equipment at the use.
Speaker 3:Eh, sometimes I'm lazy and I don't wipe it down.
Speaker 2:I don't think it bothers me that much. I mean, if you're already sweating and there's a sweat streak on that bench, I don't care.
Speaker 3:I'll wipe it, but it's not a pet peeve of mine, I don't care.
Speaker 2:I'll wipe it, but it's not a pet peeve of mine, but is it?
Speaker 3:something that you, Some people are very like. They wipe down the dumbbells, the bar, the sheets.
Speaker 2:But at the same time you know you're at a public place, that you know people are sweating and getting dirty and probably spitting out body fluids, and so you know you're in that type of place but I'm just lazy like you should expect it, but I get it. People like to be clean people. That's just. That's gonna be around forever. Me personally, I don't wipe my shit down. So yeah, yell at me for all you want, but it it doesn't even bother me either. What about, like the loud grunting, excessive noises like?
Speaker 3:those guys and guys that are just like yeah. It depends like yes and no. So like, if they're lifting heavy, all right, I'll give it to you, you're lifting heavy. But if you ain't lifting that heavy and you grunting like you like, like calm it down, or like it's not even the grunting, it's the, when they count out loud.
Speaker 1:One, two.
Speaker 3:That's a pet peeve of mine.
Speaker 2:Good point, because I was going to say that doesn't really bother me, because I think admittedly I do it sometimes, not all the time, and you know you hear it throughout the gym. You might hear a guy kind of yell one time when they get that one rep and you look over I'm like okay, whatever. And then you go back to your working out. But to your point. Yes, if you're doing shoulder presses and someone's at the bench right next to you and is one, two and like just grunting, yes I will give you that.
Speaker 2:That would probably annoy me to the point where I would put that under a pet peeve for sure. And then I know this is jessica's pet peeve, not re-racking weights or putting the weights in the wrong spot, but even then that doesn't even really bother me I think that's the only, that's the only reason why it bothers people.
Speaker 2:I think because it's the ocd in you and, yeah, I get it. You know, if, if there's like a 2.5 on a on a rack and there's like a 25, a 210s and a 45 there, yeah, okay, I see that could get annoying, but I think generally most of the time, people who re-rack at least try to put the the the plate, like on on a bar that has similar weights next to it. Like don't put it on the top one when there's 5s and 2.5s, like don't put it up there, but if there's like a couple 35s or 25s, I'll slide a 45 on there. I try to keep it in the same realm of weights.
Speaker 3:Or when you're racking the dumbbells and they put them in the wrong number. That irritates me because it's like why is a 15 here and it's supposed to be a 30 so that could contribute.
Speaker 2:So I think either laziness does that or somebody stupidly just put it on on the wrong, on the wrong numbers, but at the same time it's also you become lazy. You're like shit, someone put them in the wrong spot and then see that opening. You're like you know what? I'm just going to put these here. Someone's going to correct it. It goes back to the whole re-racking your weights. You're just like well, someone will correct that and unfortunately, the person who does it gets stuck with doing it. But it's hard to, unless you're gonna have someone on the floor constantly watching people and reprimanding them for not re-racking. It's always going to be there. So I understand it's a pet peeve, but and as we go through this list, I feel like a lot of these yes, they could be pet peeves, but it's nothing that's gonna like ruin your day no so the next one is hogging equipment.
Speaker 2:So I think this is like at least when I think of it, I think of young, like high school kids that are in groups of like four and just on the bench for like over an hour like holy shit, dude, like come on?
Speaker 3:how many reps are you gonna do? How many sets?
Speaker 2:like it's not a damn.
Speaker 2:Like social club, like you know, people want to use this bench, yeah, especially if it's busy, like just get your reps done and and get off of it.
Speaker 2:But I think that maybe irks me more than anything else, because there has been plenty of times where if it's a certain machine that I want, I'm like, oh shit, he's not on it. Then you have to find like an alternative or go to the next exercise and try to circle back. But it's like that, just at least to me, like it throws me off, it throws me off my routine. So and then sometimes I like I'll give it like a couple minutes and I'll kind of like walk around, act like I'm doing something. And then sometimes I like I'll give it like a couple minutes and I'll kind of like walk around, act like I'm doing something and then kind of see if where he's at, and but I don't think it's that serious, but at least for me it could throw off, um, throw off like your, your vibe or your routine or something like that or something like that. What about poor hygiene? I know you've been by other gym members and like just smelled the way they smell and like or it's like that bo, and it's not pet peeve of mine, but it's just it just kind of sucks right it's just, it's just like almost, it's not even like a inconvenience, I mean, unless you're like come to the gym and you expect to sweat, so it's
Speaker 3:like I can't say it's a pet peeve of mine, I'm just like damn.
Speaker 2:I feel for you it's like the whole hygiene, part of it or not the hygiene, but like the whole cleansing this or wiping down machinery, like you're going to a public place that is meant for that type of activities, so like people are going to sweat.
Speaker 3:Some people sweat more than others.
Speaker 2:And if they didn't put deodorant on, then, yeah, that kind of sucks. But even people that put deodorant on and stuff they just excessively sweat.
Speaker 2:If they go and they go hard and yeah, but a lot of times it's always kind of like in passing. You know it's like you're at a bench or machine and somebody just walks by like, oh wait, they. You get that smell and after, usually after just like a couple minutes, you forget about it anyways. So and it's not like unless you're like shoulder to shoulder and could constantly smell somebody, then I can see that being like an inconvenience, but that's just kind of like nitpicking a little bit Like yeah people are going there to sweat, people are going to have a little bit of a smell.
Speaker 2:Unless you're tied together and constantly smelling this, then I don't see what the big deal is at all. Another one is talking on the phone, like engaging in loud phone conversation, like then you ain't working out your ass ain't out of breath like or I need some water like I get.
Speaker 3:Like me and tita jessica, we'll talk in between sets, but like sometimes we gotta pause.
Speaker 2:I'm like let me finish this set real quick you guys do talk a lot we do, but we'd be like, let me finish this set real quick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you guys do talk a lot we do, but we'd be like let me finish this set real quick. You can't be on no damn phone call talking the whole damn time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to that point too, people who are on TikTok or whatever, scrolling through videos or scrolling through Instagram you're just taking up so much time.
Speaker 2:But also, too, you could kind of tell who are the serious like gym goers, because serious gym goers they, they know what the rest time should be, they know, you know what their goal is or what their routine is. So a lot of times you know, if I go on tiktok, it's I literally get on it like right after I just finished set and then I scroll and then I like to use, like the gym that I have. They have digital clocks kind of like on one end of the gym and as soon as I finish a set I'll take a peek at the clock. I'm like, okay, it's uh, 657 with 10 seconds. I'm like, okay, I'll scroll, like I use that as my, as my timer for my rest time. But people who will scroll, I'm sure they sit there for five, probably 10 minutes or on the phone and like it's just hogging a machine, so, but I haven't really encountered that or like thank god me either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like I've never, I haven't really but we don't go at night, really, yeah, but even then I've been at the gym in the morning, middle of the day, at night, it's if I don't know, I mean unless I'm like right behind behind them, I don't know if they're scrolling on tiktok. And at that point if I'm, if I notice that they're scrolling on tiktok or if I notice that they've been on their phone for a minute, then I'm, that means I'm just not working on my shit, like you know, I'm saying like I should notice people when I'm on the stairmaster and I can overlook people and I'm like look at that person.
Speaker 3:That's different.
Speaker 2:Look at that person. That's different. Look at that person. Yeah, that's different. But if you're on the gym floor and you're trying to get a pump in, oh no, I don't notice, yeah, I don't notice either it's when I'm like doing cardio and I'm like look at this person. It's like he's been scrolling for multiple minutes. Or what about the improper use of equipment, like you ever see those videos of people doing just like some outrageous movements on a Smith machine?
Speaker 3:Lap pulldowns, the always famous one, either they don't lean back or they lean too far back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or you've seen the people you ever see. There's a video where they're at the lap not the lap pulldown, but the cable machine and they put the whole stack on there and they hang from it like down and act like they're spider-man and some shit, or they use the the cables and they'll take both arms or both handles and just do some crazy shit like this um girl on tiktok.
Speaker 3:I was literally scrolling on tiktok and she put on the kickback straps and she didn't lower the thing, she had it all the way at the top. Oh my God, Did it take her off and she connected herself and she's hanging upside down, but I feel like that would be more, and the guy came to come help her because she was getting ready to kick back to do it and she flipped up.
Speaker 2:But if the cable was all the way up there, and if it had enough weight to lift her up, wouldn't she have had to pull that cable all the way up there? And if it had enough weight to lift her up, wouldn't she have had to pull that cable all the way down to her ankles, like she would have known that weight was on, but that's why I was like she did it for the tiktok that's what I'm saying, like it had to be for the tiktok and but that that shit happens, though I don't know, and it's not even like like young kids.
Speaker 2:I've seen videos of like old men, like 40, 50, 60 year olds go there and they're doing some weird movements and it's women and men kids that are kind of like acting like it's a playground at the gym and I think and now, the more that I talk about it like it's pissing me off. So I guess it's a pet peeve for me, because people that are going to the gym, generally they're trying to better themselves, they're trying to, they're taking diet serious, they're taking their workout serious, and then you're trying to do some damn tricep push-downs and you got a kid next to you or whoever just acting a fool with these waves. I'm like dude, get out of here. Like you're distracting me, you're throwing off the whole vibe in here. So I think, out of the list so far, I think that's the one. Maybe that would have actually pissed me off a little bit. But other than that, that's another thing. I've only seen TikTok videos of it, and not really like experienced myself. A lot of these pet peeves I've never really experienced.
Speaker 3:I experienced myself remember we're doing a chest one day and they're pulling it all the way back. We're like you're not even working your back now they had like that stack almost full and that's.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing. Like I don't really like care about other gym goers unless they're lifting something impressive. You know, like I don't really care about other gym goers unless they're lifting something impressive, I don't really pay attention as much as I look around after my set because I'm one of those guys that will walk in a circle before my other set. But even when I'm looking around, I don't really look at other people in their lifts.
Speaker 3:I look like I'm looking at you what is that called? Where it's like this look, just looking, or whatever they call it when it's like you look like when you're at the gym and you're like staring off and the person thinks you're staring at them, but you're not, you're in your own little, I'm just yeah, I just look like I'm staring at you, but I'm like, I'm not even in my mind, right? Now I have that problem.
Speaker 2:I've done that too, but then I get nervous from doing that because I don't want to make eye contact or make anybody feel nervous.
Speaker 3:I start looking down now or up at the ceiling. I'm like just or my phone, you know what now that you bring that up?
Speaker 2:there's a story I haven't even told Jessica, but it happened last month. I was at my gym and one of my friends from work was working out with his friend, like we were doing our own separate things. I must have did what you did, because when I was getting my stuff ready and it's it's in the area where the you know you're you got the rows of dumbbells, you got the rows of seats and then you got the cable. You know that area. Right there I was getting my stuff ready and and like I kind of wave my hand, I'm like I'm like all right, see you later, type of hand gesture, and the guy texts me like an hour later.
Speaker 2:He's like hey, this guy came up to me and said, hey, do you know that guy talking about me after I left and he said, hey, do you know that guy? And he responded like yeah, he's like, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to beat that dude up. He was like looking at my girl or something. And I'm thinking myself like what are you talking about? And it must have been in a state where after I said I was.
Speaker 2:maybe I was looking in her direction and maybe I I was looking too long and maybe she either she felt uncomfortable and said something, or maybe he noticed that I was looking her way and decided to say something after I left. But I just thought it was so funny and the fact that you brought that up I guess I don't ever really realize and I guess that's the whole point. You don't realize you're doing that. But I guess I do it to the point where I pissed some dude off because he thought I was checking out his girl or something.
Speaker 3:so but a lot of gym goers know that you're not intentionally doing like. If you have that problem which is like a lot of gym people who are serious, they know they do that, or it's like a thing that is just done like you don't realize true and, like, I'll be honest and you could, you know, state your opinion on it, or not even opinion, but you could say otherwise.
Speaker 2:But honestly, like, when I go to the gym, part of the gym is like, hey, I, I like looking at the attractive. Let's say attractive people I mean, is that not the case for you when you go to the gym, like, are you not just checking out, oh, like, oh he's cute. Or like, oh, wow, he look, he's buff. You know, like, do you not do that?
Speaker 3:yeah, and then you see sometimes people's progress too, like, oh my god, I remember, like when you were coming a few months back, like what the hell are you doing that I'm not doing?
Speaker 2:and like it's. You know, obviously you don't want to stare too long and so you, you kind of take your peaks here and there between sets. But, like I would admit it, and you know, I go to the gym and if I see a good looking girl and you know I'll take a quick peek and then after my set and she's still in the same spot, I'll take another peek. So, and I don't think that's wrong, especially if women nowadays, the clothes they wear to the gym, I'm like you can't, you can't get mad at people taking peeks at you if you're coming in with like going looking cute with intention, right like here it did.
Speaker 2:You got makeup on, whatever and you got some short shorts or some super tight leggings and you just got your tits out and stuff and you know, like, if you're going to the gym like that, then you cannot get mad about men looking at you.
Speaker 2:Now, when it becomes a situation where a guy is looking at you too long, or inappropriate or inappropriately or even like says some words to you or obviously puts a hand on you in any way, then yeah, that's a major problem that needs to be taken care of.
Speaker 2:But even then, even if you didn't want the unwanted looks or conversation or touch you, still, in my opinion you still provoked it by wearing the outfit that you're wearing and a lot of it too, I think women are doing to kind of show off their progress. Like, if you have a nice body, then you probably want to show it off. So I get that aspect of it. But I won't deny saying that if I see a cute girl or a fit girl or a good looking girl, like I don't, you know, it's not like I don't take peaks here and there, I do. I just don't do it to the point where I make anybody feel awkward, you know. And then I damn, where did we leave off? I think we left off on the improper equipment, and then these other ones I think don't really, uh, really concern us. It's like lack of personal space.
Speaker 3:Nah.
Speaker 2:I mean, if a gym's super crowded, then you kind of have to and it depends on the size of the gym, right? How many people you're working out with or like the time we went and there was no more benches and so like we kind of posted up like right in the corner gym people don't don't bother by it, because they know you got to squeeze in where you can squeeze in. Like I'm here for my workout.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I mean, like that's all situational and I think for the most people, people are polite People, you know people are trying to get by you to get away. People are mostly understanding. I don't think that's such a big deal. And then I'll just finish this one, because the other one it's inattentive. Personal trainers, I mean, I don't really.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know about that. I feel like it's so easy to be like a certified trainer, like I don't know, someone could correct me, but it's not like I don't even know could correct me, but it's not like I don't even know, do you? You probably have to take some kind of classes, right, you have to get like a certificate to be a personal trainer. But even then, like I've seen personal trainers who are just like average looking, you know you would think a personal trainer is going to be fit or muscular, thinking because you're like, oh hey, my personal trainers this way, then maybe I should listen, and that's not to say that just because if you're average looking, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to fitness, because it's all about the knowledge, the dieting and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But I guess when you get a, there are personal trainers out there, I'm sure of it, that probably half-assed their roots, their their program or are just there for a paycheck. So I can understand that. But another one is and I'm always nervous to give advice and I don't think I've ever had anybody come up to me but what's your take on people giving you advice as far as like form or proper gym use or anything like that have you have anybody come up to you like hey, huh, well, yeah, me, but that's different.
Speaker 2:But have you ever had a stranger come up to you but like hey, do you mind if I show you a better way to do?
Speaker 3:this. I wouldn't do that to anyone either. I don't mind like people I know, but like a stranger, I don't know, it'd feel a little weird but. I won't take it personal, I'll just feel a little weird I was gonna say, would you? Would you you wouldn't take it as like an insult or anything no, I would just feel a little weird, like how long have you been staring at me?
Speaker 2:yeah, true, that, true, true and and like I've always thought about and it's I would never want to go to, like a older, older person, it's. If I ever decided to give advice or asked to give advice, I would look for like a younger person, like someone in high school or somebody super young and you could kind of tell because you could kind of tell who, who's new and who's not. But just to go up to someone kind of give that mentality hey, I know more than you.
Speaker 3:Let me show you how it's done but me and the jessica actually did it. Yeah, but it was on how to record, because we were recording our sumo squats for our leg day and he came up to us after recording. He's like hey, if you guys like, do it this way, you'll see the butt more or something it means you just were like did you guys take that advice? No, we just felt weird, like how long were you staring at us and who did you stare at? Did you stare at at both of us?
Speaker 2:That is kind of weird. Yeah because I mean, like when you're at the gym you really don't want anyone really coming up to you anyways.
Speaker 2:And I think it all depends on how the person does it as well, like I've seen videos of people talking about that, and I think it should always start as hey, how you doing, do you mind if I show you a better way to do this exercise? And if they say no, they're like all right, cool. But if somebody comes up to you but like hey, no, no, you're doing that wrong, that's when you're like who the fuck are you you know.
Speaker 2:So it definitely depends on how somebody, how somebody approaches it, and from there I don't think it's a big deal, but it just. I mean, people are just nervous in general to talk to anybody they don't know. So to go up to somebody and say, hey, you're doing this wrong, you should do it this way, I mean you probably got to have some some big balls to do it. So since we do go to the gym and obviously we're, we're working out to get that body that we want, I kind of a quick hypothetical that I saw the other day and I'm just curious if you would do it. I don't think I would do this, I would be too scared, but let me see what you think.
Speaker 2:So if you were offered like a 10 out of 10 body, flawless skin, beautiful face, you'll age a little slower and you can never get like fat again. But in the next five minutes, after that wish was granted, a man would appear with a nine millimeter pistol and will shoot you. Meter pistol, it will shoot you. The shot would not hit any major like artery or anything like that, or it wouldn't be any fatal areas, but it will cause pretty serious damage. And then one shot, the man just like, disappears, never to be seen again. You could call for medical help after he disappears and obviously you could get to a hospital to get patched up and stuff, but if help doesn't arrive in time, you could bleed out. So, knowing all this information and knowing that death could potentially be an outcome, just depending on where the bullet hits you and how long help gets there, but the the reward is pretty significant. Would Would you take that deal?
Speaker 3:No, I feel like I didn't earn my body Really.
Speaker 2:Like, because I go to the gym.
Speaker 3:I'm like I want to be able to say I worked for this, Like I didn't take no easy way out. It's kind of like getting like lipo, tummy tuck, you know.
Speaker 2:Like I get it on instances with people who've lost like dramatic weight that needs the surgery needs and they have you know like you need it but like, if it's a way where you can just lose it, I I'm not gonna cheat myself.
Speaker 3:I want to be like yeah, I worked for this shit. Like no shit I'm that person like I want to be like. No, I worked for it. I fucking bled sweat tears for it okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was not expecting that answer. I thought like you were like jokingly, take it Hell. No, that's pretty good. You know, who would take that in a heartbeat?
Speaker 3:Auntie Jessica no no, no.
Speaker 2:First of all, the fact of being shot. If she wasn't getting shot, she would. The fact that she had to take take a bullet, she'd be like nope, she would even think twice about it. But not not to bust a vow. But I, I think aaron would take that deal. That was a good one. Everyone take that deal. 10 out of 10 times. He's like get shot.
Speaker 3:I bet people I'm just applying pressure.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna survive like he'll come up with all. He'll come up with all the excuses that it won't be so bad for him to do it. I, I would love that, honestly, I would love the idea of doing it and the fact that I would age slower and not be able to, like lose all that progress because it's so easy to spend like five years to get the body you want and then you can literally go back to square one and probably like in six months. You know, it's crazy how it takes so much work to get to your perfect, you know body and then, like, not even in a fraction of that time it could go, all go away if you just like just went downhill and stopped working out and start and just continue to eat junk food. It fucking sucks.
Speaker 2:So the idea that I could never lose that progress, oh, it would tempt me so much. But the mere fact that, like for me to potentially die and if it, if things didn't like go the way intended and I couldn't get medical help in time and I ended up dying, I'm like this, like I'd be looking at myself like this dumb motherfucker waste, like basically took the a body you know, to get the, the perfect body, like to me. I think it would be like the dumbest thing to like, obviously. If you got the reward, then boom, you're, you're good, you're set, you're a genius. But if it doesn't pan out the way you want and you die, then that's like probably people will say that's the dumbest thing to risk your life for, and so that's good, I like.
Speaker 3:I like your answer though I wish you would have gave me the scenario about the book I would have read my whole book of life.
Speaker 2:The book of life big quick. As soon as I saw that I'd read it start to finish.
Speaker 2:So for people who don't know what the question was, I put a tiktok out and basically, if you were to start reading a book and I think you would probably catch on pretty quickly. But let's just say you're reading a book and you get, you know, maybe whatever a few chapters in and you start realizing like man, this book, this story is really familiar. And then you get to the point where you are reading the book and the book like gets to that same point in life where you're at. And the question is, what do you do in that scenario when you realize that you're reading a book about your specific life and you said you would read the whole thing?
Speaker 3:Start to finish.
Speaker 2:So you would want to know what happens and how you die and when you die.
Speaker 3:Start to finish.
Speaker 2:Really. So what if you read it? And what if you see that you die in a horrible accident two years from that point?
Speaker 3:Well, fuck it, I'm going to start living like now. I'm like well, I'm dying in two years, I'm going in debt. I'm going to spend a million dollars.
Speaker 2:You can't do that, because then you're going to fuck your kids over. You can't just go in debt. That debt doesn't just go away when you die, I'm going to go buck wild.
Speaker 3:Then I'm about to live life.
Speaker 2:Damn. So that wouldn't freak you out at all. I feel like, obviously, if you saw that you live to be 90, then great but I'm just cruise through be act invincible, like nothing.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's a robbery. I'm not gonna die till I'm 90. I'm gonna take down this robber. I'm not gonna die now. Yeah, you know what that? That's a good point too, because if you read the book and if you see that you lived a long life, you're like man, whatever challenges or like danger you got in. You're like nothing's gonna happen to me. Holy shit, I didn't think about that aspect of it, but you're right. But the downside is, if you read it and you know you're gonna suffer a death sooner than later, that would suck, but apparently your, your answer is that you'll go buck wild.
Speaker 3:I'm like well, I'm gonna die today. So I'm just gonna be fearless. If I, if I was scared, like, say, I wasn't talking to this guy I was in love with, I'd be like, well, I'm gonna die tomorrow.
Speaker 2:So I'm just gonna be crazy, I'm gonna drive to his house and be like listen I guess that would take away a lot of the like, the fear and anxiety of like consequences.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I wouldn't have no anxious I'm doing it then, Like if I'm going to die. I'm just going to, you're going to know.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to look at it, but let's, let's take a step back then, and so let's say that's the situation. Don't you think life would not be very exciting? Or don't you think life would get maybe boring because you're like I know what happens, there's no like what ifs in your, in your life or in your mind, so you don't think that maybe eventually, over time, that it would just get like boring?
Speaker 3:Yes, unless the butterfly effect kicks in Like the game of Until Dawn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or the movie Butterfly Effect, yeah, yeah, but that's the thing. I can see where you're coming from. But this is to say that, no matter what you do, well, okay, so let's play it a different way. So let's just say, you read it and it says two days you're gonna twist your ankle, or let's say break your ankle doing something, uh, and it tells you the, the day and the time. So let's just say that, okay, you know what, know what? I'm going to avoid that and I'm going to stay in bed all morning. I'm going to call off work. Stay in bed all morning.
Speaker 3:The destination chases you.
Speaker 2:So do you think so? Obviously the book would have to rewrite it. But do you think it just comes back in like two days later doing something?
Speaker 3:you still break your ankle, you still break your leg regardless.
Speaker 2:I think whatever consequence happens in that book, I think it still happens, even if you try to avoid it. Maybe you avoid it for that time and day, but I think it still happens, maybe even in a different way. So rather than you running on the treadmill and breaking your ankle for whatever reason, maybe you're at work and fall down the stairs but you still break your ankle. So I guess there's that aspect of it because obviously the book has already been written. So if you change anything from the pay, from those pages, I'm assuming and this is all fictional of then it would just rewrite itself, but the consequence would still be the same.
Speaker 3:Man that's.
Speaker 2:I think that that would be too much for me. I couldn't do it because at that point one I wouldn't want to know like my anxiety would be the rule of just reading like okay, when the fuck am I going to die?
Speaker 3:My anxiety would kill me not reading it, so I'd have to read it. I would have to read it from start to finish that's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did that's. I definitely didn't think about a lot of that and the opposite side of things, but, given on what we just said, I think I would have to just put it away but like you're strong, I'm not, but even like what jessica said, like maybe just kind of like you can even use it as this.
Speaker 2:Let's think about this way. Let's say, something comes up in your life that's like almost like a fork in the road situation and you're like fuck, if I choose option a, this bad thing can happen. But if I choose option b, this bad thing can happen. But if I choose option B, this bad thing can happen, but it's not going to be Red pill or blue pill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you could kind of be like you know, let me get this book out, let me flip through these chapters real quick and maybe even see what the outcomes would be between A and B. So maybe not necessarily read it all the way through, but maybe use it to help you to make decisions I'd be too impatient, so I still read all of it but then it's kind of circling back.
Speaker 2:So let's say, if I used it for that example, like I said, like the option a, b and b fork in the road and I get the book out and I look through, I'm like, okay, I don't know what to do here, let me see what my options are and see what the outcomes are and then, my luck, I'll get to the chapter like where I die. But then again, if I got to that chapter it would have to be at the end of the book. So if I'm in the, if I'm like page 300 out of 700, clearly I don't die right so there's clearly you got a big gap so.
Speaker 2:So I guess, if I'm flipping through pages like, okay, I'm getting to the close, to the end of this book, let me not, I know yeah so there's definitely different thoughts to to go out, to go at this, but that's, that's a very good point.
Speaker 2:I like that and and, like I said, like jessica said she would keep it around obviously to kind of you know, see what happened. But, like I just said, that could kind of backfire um in in a bad way, because if you look it up to make a decision and you find out you get close to the end of that book, then you're like, well shit, whatever decision I make, I'm dead. I'm pretty much dead. So I like that so did you hear that the penny might be going away like?
Speaker 3:that's kind of good.
Speaker 2:We don't use it and that's what the whole thing is, because you know that it I believe in 2023. I forgot how many were made, but they said some crazy ass number um. What was it? In 2023, taxpayers paid more than 179 million dollars to produce the penny, because I guess the penny for for it being one cent, it costs about 3.7 the metal's different from all the others well, that's another reason too, they said, because the the cost of um the metal to make it has gone up as well.
Speaker 2:But I guess the the person behind this is Elon Musk. I guess there's a department called the Department of Government Efficiency, dog or DOG I'm calling. It's probably DOG, but they're trying to come up with a game plan that would just eliminate the penny altogether, because they said that in 2023, they circulated around 4.1 billion pennies in the year 2023 and then for 2024 fiscal year, the annual us mint report said that it takes about 3.7 cents to produce and distribute one penny, a 20 increase from the previous year. The increase has been partly driven by rising costs of metals like zinc and copper, just like how you said. But I mean we know the penny has pretty much devalued for a long time. I mean right now it's just like spare chain, no one cares about the penny. Like I could probably count on my one hand how many times I've used a penny to get like exact change. And like we live in a digital era where people don't really use money change or, yeah, change their money at all.
Speaker 3:They'll break a single before using like 30 cents.
Speaker 2:I know right, it's great, and then that that change you get just goes into like a coin jar and most of it is is really pennies, and because it really doesn't circulate, like I said, they go in jars, they go in sock drawers, they go in like your uh, like little coin purse or whatever. But I found it was interesting because the penny has been around for almost as long as the united states has been a country. According to the us, mint pennies were first introduced in in 1793 and were made of copper back then and the penny was actually the first circulating coin in the united states. But even back then the coins were already costing, are causing a stir because of their large, large size. Well, clearly, and then, obviously, when you got the paper money, you could fold it, you could, you know, you know, store it away. I mean, it's a lot harder to carry change in coins than it is, you know, dollars.
Speaker 2:But and then, like other countries have already gotten rid of small coins, I believe, yeah, canada stopped making the one cent coins in, while Australia stopped making them back in 1982. So there's precedents for countries to eliminate it and as far as our debt is in the country, like if we could save any types of millions of dollars, especially $180 million, by just getting rid of something the Americans don't even really care or use for. Saving money it makes sense, sense like we got to do something. I just thought that was interesting because it's true, like I don't even think about pennies, I mean, if anything, the, the one coin that you really think about are quarters, because one I mean four quarters make a dollar and then two, generally you want quarters to use vending machines. But, like I said, we live in a digital era where now vending machines take the card or you can even use your phone now and do and do a little tap play so I mean, why not like that would be awesome.
Speaker 2:I'm curious do women know that they wear too much makeup? No, I don't think well, because you know what I'm talking about like I know, women in general wear makeup and women wear it in moderation. But the women out there that just just cake it on their face like do they not know that they're using?
Speaker 3:no, they know they're using that much, but they're more concerned, I think, about like covering whatever imperfections they're trying to work on but doesn't that just like the amount you put on your face?
Speaker 2:doesn't that just bring more attention to your face? And do women not think that like?
Speaker 3:are they just so? Because even men like and some, like you know, like even in the hispanic culture like, if you're used to seeing her with makeup on, when you finally see her without it, you're like whoa, like you now want her to wear makeup all the time, like because that's what you're used to seeing yeah, but that isn't that kind of tricking the guy.
Speaker 3:Anyways, like because some guys know, like aaron will say like she has a lot of makeup on. I know she's trying to hide something, but she looks very pretty with makeup on, so you know like you. You know what you're signing up for. So it's more you know, like if she wears a lot of makeup, she's always going to wear it, she's not going to walk around without it. Some women, like I, have friends who will not leave the house without makeup on.
Speaker 2:I don't get it. And do you think it's because, once they started to do it in the past, they just do it automatically.
Speaker 3:now, it's true, they told me.
Speaker 2:They're like once, you always do it automatically. Now, it's true, they told me they're like once you start wearing it, you always need it, like you. Just you have now you have to wear it. I don't, I don't know, like it. I don't know if it just bugs me or maybe because, like jessica, she doesn't, at least in my eyes, at my opinion. I don't think she needs to wear makeup to look good and for the most part, she, you know she wears makeup, but like you know, but when I'm thinking about you know what I'm talking about it's the women that just Some men don't care, they just think like she's beautiful.
Speaker 2:I mean maybe from afar, but when you get close, like you could take your finger and just like, almost like just swiping a cake, like you get all that frosting on you, like that's how I feel. Some of these women, at least the women that I'm thinking in my head and and I'm thinking to myself, like are men not telling these women, or our friends or family, not telling women that they wear too much makeup? I don't know. Like do you think of?
Speaker 3:like if your cousin was wearing too much makeup, like just like a crazy amount of makeup, would you not tell her like, hey, you need to calm down the makeup, it looks bad you can, but people who wear like, a lot of makeup they're not going to, Because once you start wearing it, your face starts to like change to where, like, you have to wear it. So they're not, they're just going to be like okay, that sucks.
Speaker 3:But they're still going to wear it because they know you can't go without it. Now, that's what I've been told. Women who wear like makeup, like, regardless the amount of it, like I have to wear it because, like now, my face has molded to where, like, if I don't wear it, I don't look like me at all. Like I have to wear it. Like I have to wear it. Like that's just how it is.
Speaker 2:Like I've seen like the transformation of people, of women who will take their makeup off and yes, I agree that some women they kind of don't look like what they do with makeup and I get that. So you're telling me that it's at one point it was, it was a necessity to cover up something, but you get so used to it that now it just becomes a mental thing, to where you came and go through a day without putting it on. And so now in your mind it's a necessity, for not even for a specific reason, it's just my thing to do every single day mm-hmm, like I would have that's wild.
Speaker 3:Like if they don't have lashes it's the end of the world. Like they have to have their lashes every day. Rather, it's the install or the strips um mascara, their eyebrows done. Like that is their life. Like they wake up to do their makeup, even if it's just to go to work.
Speaker 2:Like they have to so do you think someone who goes through life kind of at an early stage, who doesn't get into makeup, do you think they just they never will? I don't know, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around it because I know so okay, so those girls that have to put makeup on, have they been putting makeup on since?
Speaker 2:like a young high school yeah, and so it just stuck. And so they spend all this money, spend all this time, and they know maybe not all of them, but they know they wear an excessive amount of makeup, but they still do it every day, no matter what. It is crazy Like how does that not affect? Like I know you got to wipe it off, but like laying on a pillow or I don't know resting your head on the guy's pants or putting your head on their shoulder nowadays that's, it doesn't really yeah, so like back then.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but makeup has changed, so nowadays that like it doesn't smudge as much and then it depends on the amount, how much you know, like.
Speaker 3:You know like a little bit goes a long way. So it's like it's trial and error where you learn like, oh my god, I don't have to use as much as I used to anymore, like I really do, just need a little, because if I use too much it will smudge. So it's like makeup has changed where, like, you know you can, you know, you know your makeup won't smudge. But it's like people who wear makeup they know what outfits to wear. Or you know, like, if I'm in this sweater, I can't come out of it because I know I got to take it off. You know, they know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's like they've been wearing it for so long. They know how to sit. You know like. Wear what, what not to wear, you know.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, it's hard being a woman in it. Geez like, just like I couldn't even imagine going through the day just in, like, like proactively planning my day because of the, the makeup that I got on or the outfit that I got makeup change, so most of the time people still wear whatever, like it doesn't smear all right.
Speaker 2:Well, that's pretty interesting. That was just kind of like one of the um, the small things that I was thinking about. Appreciate you. Coming back on. I think this went, if not better than just as good as our last episode. Like I said, the first episode it was kind of everywhere. I was using videos that people couldn't even see. So I think this was more structured. I think it's going to flow a lot better and, like I said, I appreciate you taking the time to come out again and helping me out and jumping back on the show. So I had a good time. I learned some stuff, had a couple laughs, so I'll say it again, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3:I appreciate you. Who says that? Dj Kelly? Oh yeah, he's like I appreciate you points to you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate. I haven't heard from that guy for a long time.
Speaker 3:I think he just produces music. Maybe he doesn't rap anymore, right? Some songs be like DJ Kelly. I think he just produces music. Maybe he doesn't rap anymore, right, Some songs be like DJ Kelly. I think he just produces now.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. He's probably making more money. It's probably easier to just stay behind the scenes, take the credit and just make more money that way, All right.
Speaker 3:I appreciate you too.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you, I appreciate you All right.