Mirrors and Windows with Katrina Campins
Join Katrina Campins—single mother, Apprentice reality star, Fox News contributor, and host of Mansion Global on Fox Business—in a quest for “real.” In a world of polarity, divisiveness, and endless categorical boxes, Katrina and her guests push beyond shame, fear, and pride to facilitate authentic, heart-led conversations about the joys and struggles of our crazy human lives.
From Shark Tank moguls to hip hop legends—gold medalists, Hollywood actors, business leaders and FBI agents—Campins breaks down barriers both with humor and heart. By tapping into the wisdom of personal, lived experiences, she sweeps listeners into a place of openness and authenticity, inviting them to use others’ stories as both mirrors and windows into their own human experiences.
Taboo-shattering candidness meets the edgy, no-holds-barred style in this conversation-based podcast with heart, vulnerability, and relatability. Featuring NBA all-stars on the struggles of parenting, first ladies on subtleties of prejudice, and CMT superstars on rediscovering their faith while working the music industry, be prepared to laugh, cry, and possibly hurl your listening device across the room.
In other words, get ready for all the feels. Because the window into someone else’s world might just be a mirror to your own.
Mirrors and Windows with Katrina Campins
Pacman Jones Unplugged: Most Controversial NFL Star Of All Time
On this episode of Mirrors and Windows with Katrina Campins, we go behind the curtain for an unplugged conversation with one of football’s most dynamic and controversial figures: Adam 'Pacman' Jones. From being the 6th pick in the NFL Draft to his career with the Titans, Cowboys, Bengals, and Broncos, Pacman’s rise to success was extraordinary—but it hasn’t come without personal struggles.
In this raw and vulnerable conversation, Pacman opens up about his mental health journey—how seeing a therapist every week has helped him find healing.
He reflects on the devastating loss of his father, a pain that still lingers, and how it shaped much of his anger and struggles. Pacman also speaks about the deep friendship he had with his late teammate, Chris Henry, and the profound impact it had on his life. After Chris’s passing, Pacman stepped up in a way only a true friend would—adopting Chris’s children and ensuring they had the love and support they needed to become great athletes themselves. This act of loyalty speaks volumes about the depth of his heart and his commitment to family.
Pacman also opens up about his close friendship with country music artist Jelly Roll. They both share a deep understanding of personal struggles and redemption, and their friendship is a testament to the power of vulnerability and support.
Pacman shares the pivotal role his grandmother played in his life, offering love, guidance, and stability amidst the chaos. Her strength was a constant source of support. He talks about being a single child and momma's boy.
Beyond the personal, Pacman gives us a glimpse into his football life—revealing who his favorite players are in the league, the coaches who have influenced him the most, and who his least favorite players are. Get ready for some candid takes and insights you won’t hear anywhere else.
You will get all the feels in this episode. You’ll laugh, cry, and witness the kind of raw honesty that only Pacman Jones can deliver. This episode is an unfiltered, unplugged look at Pacman’s journey—a story of deep friendship, loss, healing, success, and the courage to face yourself head-on. Pacman hopes his openness will inspire without shame or fear. 💬💥
Tune in for an intimate, raw conversation with Pacman Jones like never before.
Fun Fact: Katrina Campins and Pacman Jones became friends in 2005, when Katrina's longtime college friend, Jeremy Shockey, introduced them. Pacman was looking to buy condos in Miami, and Katrina helped him purchase two units in a luxury complex known as the "Melrose Place for athletes." Their initial business relationship turned into a lasting friendship.
00:00 Introduction to Adam 'Pacman' Jones
01:20 Early Friendship and First Encounters
08:33 Challenges and Personal Growth
18:44 Family and Upbringing
30:25 Raising Chris Henry's Children
37:23 Jelly Roll: From College Days to Stardom
40:52 Navigating Life After Football
43:27 Balancing Relationships and Mental Health
47:12 Memorable Football Moments
54:50 The Importance of Respect and Dignity
01:06:48 Overcoming Adversity and Inspiring Others
01:09:48 Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
With Gratitude, Respect + Love,
Katrina Campins
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