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In this special International Women’s Day episode, we celebrate the strength, resilience, and achievements of women worldwide. Join host Stella Ram as she sits down with the inspiring Varsha Pasel, a trusted Real Estate Agent in Guelph, Ontario, and the host of The Trust Collective Podcast.

Varsha shares her incredible journey as an immigrant, entrepreneur, and mother, offering powerful insights on embracing change, building legacies, and empowering women in business and real estate. From overcoming obstacles to achieving financial independence, this episode is packed with wisdom, practical advice, and heartfelt stories.

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 Hello, and welcome to another special edition of the Stella Talk Show. I'm your host, Stella Ram, mother, realtor, entrepreneur, and a firm deliverer. That success is not just about what we achieve in our careers, but also about the impact we make in our communities. The show is all about inspiring conversations that help you thrive in life.

Wealth and also in real estate in honor of celebrating the International Women's Day in the month of March. Let's take a moment to honor the achievements, resilience, and the power of women around the world. This year's time is all about empowerment, uplifting each other, breaking barriers, and rewriting the narratives of what women can accomplish no matter where life takes us.

And I couldn't be, uh, think of a better, uh, guest to join us today. That's someone who embodied this spirit of empowerment. Worship Paal worship's story is one of courage, transformation, and purpose. As an immigrant to Canada, she understands that home ownership in a is about so much more than just a financial investment.

It's about stability, belonging, and building a legacy. This deep connect personal connection drives her passion as a trusted real estate agent in the Guelph Ontario area. Beyond her professional accomplishments, washer wears many hats. She's a beloved wife, mother, a pet owner, and a community builder who values the importance of connection and ask the host of the Trust Collective Podcasts.

Washer leads authentic conversations about navigating change, personal growth, and embracing transitions with confidence. Her journey is one of. Courage, resilience, and empowerment. Today we'll be talking about her experience as an immigrant entrepreneur, wife and mother, and how she beautifully emerge cultures while empowering others to find their voice and purpose.

So grab a coffee and let's welcome worship us out. Thank you, Stella. It's an honor to be here. Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. You are most welcome. It's an honor to have you as well, SIA. Um, I, I hope I touched everything there. I know it's a lot to introduce you on, but it's amazing that you know what you have, you know, grown into to see what you have done so far.

So. I'm very happy for you. Thank you. You. I feel the same way about you, Stella. Like it wasn't that long ago that you and I got to meet. And even just in that little bit of time that has passed from when we saw each other in person to see like how boots on the ground and how you've, just that you've come into you this role so beautifully.

It's really inspiring for me as well. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I really appreciate your kind words. So just talk, talking about adopting cultures, right? How did you balance adopting to a new culture while staying true to your roots? Okay, so that is really tricky. I sometimes like have to, you know, it's only now at this stage in my life that I am even looking back at that lens and truly, Stella.

I think it stems from the fact that I'm a mother, right? Sometimes, and you might, being a parent is the biggest mirror that we have in front of us. Everything that we wanna, you know, impart on our young ones is. We have to really just think back to who we were at that age and how do we wanna raise our children going forward, right?

So I'll say adaptability is something that I think immigrants just, we don't even know. We have the skill, but it's innate in us. You know, for my inherent. Specifically, they not only immigrated out of India once, they did so twice, so for them, they had moved from India to the Middle East, and that's where I raised, my sister was raised, and then they immigrated again, you know, with, with teenage children, um mm-hmm.

To Canada, right in the quest for higher education, of course. Right? Mm-hmm. Better education. Now the Middle East is a completely different ball game. That's true. It, it didn't, it wasn't even a thought that, oh, we have to be adaptable. We just needed to be adaptable. It was just a skill that was in us watching our parents, watching our elders do this day in and day out.

Yeah. Now that I'm a mom, I think I'm very intentional in the way that I choose to adapt to certain situations and how I'm raising my kids as well. And as you know, career transitions from, from one career to the next, like everything is about adaptability now. Mm-hmm. That's true. That's true. Oh my God, that's very inspiring.

Just to think about like, you know, what our parents have done for us to, for a better life. That's exactly what we like, envisioned for our family, like our kids as well. So definitely when you're in that mother role, like, you know, it's a you, you take different roles in your journey and that that's everything combines together is very empowering.

So. I completely understand where you're coming from. Our guiding life, Stella, it's our guiding force, right? Because we don't, that is true ourselves. As much as we run our own businesses and our own practices, we that mm-hmm. Is forever. We are raising humans. That is true. I, uh, no, I completely agree. So, in your journey, Russia, uh, what were some of the biggest challenges you faced as an immigrant woman starting a business in Canada?

I know that you had, uh, legal background before that, um, when you started thinking of, okay, now I'm gonna get into being an entrepreneur. But was there any challenges as an immigrant, as a woman that you faced? Oh, so many. Um, so many because I'll tell you the truth, in choosing to become a realtor, you know what they don't necessarily touch on enough when you're going through the program to become one, is the fact that you are setting up a business for yourself.

Like, this is an entire business operation here. You're not just buying and selling real estate. Right? So that in itself was a hurdle, um, because no one has done that. You know, my father was a consultant later on in his life, but, um, it wasn't that we had these long in-depth conversations about him setting up business for himself.

It was a very small consultation that he did. Right. So, mm-hmm. It was a lot of self-learning and it came, I came to realize there's really a lack of education on how to set yourself up in business, in real estate out there. Mm-hmm. Successfully. Right. Um, and also this concept of building generational wealth.

Uh, it isn't a conversation that I grew up with. It, it, of course, there was, we set our kids up. Education wise, education is the biggest. Thing, right? Mm-hmm. Uh, but the conversation in my household at least, was not this concept of generational wealth that has happened, um, over the course of the last like 10 years for us in conversations, but that's also because of health reasons that would.

Bring such a conversation to the forefront, right? Like life and the difference Yes. That we face. So there's tons of challenges, you know, and, uh, and there's tons of biases in the industry too, or trying. There's a lot of self-trust that you have to, you know, rely on. You're gonna have to just bank on yourself and tap into your own.

Um, you have to trust yourself and your abilities. And, and one of the biggest challenges truly was myself, that that self-doubt was probably the last yes. It's ever been because we carry all these other roles so successfully, but now we're doing this for us in the hopes of creating something large for our families.

But it still comes down to you, right? So I think there are lots of challenges in, in the business creation space and the entrepreneurial space, and sometimes it could be lonely. So it's important to find your right people. That's true. That's true. As long as you're connecting with the right, right people and you know, having that balance, the life business balance, um, it's not easy.

Most definitely. I did that. I went through that journey myself. Um, it was very challenging in the beginning, like, you know, finding that balance. Um, was a real challenge. But once you do and you prioritize your schedules based on where you want to spend your most time on, um, and you know, you navigate through it, you'll learn a lot of new things too.

Um, it's a journey like I would say, like I'm still learning and I'm happy to, you know, continue that journey of learning and growth, which is amazing. And as you mentioned, you're doing this for yourself and also for what you're building, which is your family. Importantly, you want to make sure that you are.

Uh, leaving an example for what they want to become and also a legacy for them to be proud of. Absolutely. Most definitely. It, it, it's all encompassing, you know, and you just nailed it, Stella. You know, you're always learning. We're in the business of constantly, um, getting better, whether it's personally or professionally.

Like this doesn't stop with. A, you know, a continuing education course every two years. It doesn't stop there. It's so much more than that, right? Like yes. Only get to know that once you've done the reps in the business and sometimes you can't learn everything in a classroom, and I completely appreciate that.

Right. But getting around the right people, and I'm sure we'll touch on, you know, the power of, of your community and your surrounding, uh, is everything in this space. It's everything. Most definitely. I agree. Asha, like in your viewpoint, uh, for someone who's, uh, thinking of starting their journey into being an entrepreneur who, who's an immigrant, starting into become an entrepreneur, what are some advices that you would like to share with them?

Um, first I would say please stop playing small and shrinking yourself. Because it's easy for us to do, especially being immigrants to the country where you feel, um, you know, at the time that we had immigrated in the early nineties, a lot of this talk, and I think it still happens, is, oh, but you don't have Canadian experience.

Right. Like that is the term that's used. And I could see, you know, my father, for example, um, was pretty high up in a national bank, like in the Middle East, right? To the point that when we came to Canada, he had to start from the ground up again. You know, so because that Canadian experience, so don't let those things, um, you know, don't hold it as your identity.

Okay, because you know the value that you bring. So I would say, especially more so as immigrants, it's easy for us to shrink ourselves to say, Hey, you guys have all been here longer. You clearly must know better. That's not always the case. In fact, coming in with a different perspective and different experiences.

Is your strength. That is our strength, you know? Mm-hmm. But of course I can say this now because I'm sitting here in a different stage in my life to say that, but in the early days, I'd say Don't shrink yourself. Trust in your abilities. Realize that you have transferable skills. And if you don't have them learn, you know, there are free resources out there, so you have to be tapped into what you wanna create.

You have to know what you want, and you have to sort of. Get really resilient and get after it. That's amazing. I I, I, I completely agree with you when you said that, Rasha, because, you know, when you actually start believing in yourself, uh, the, the, the possibilities or the opportunities becomes canvas, right?

The first step is, you know, getting outside of your head, because we are so inside, like limiting ourselves saying, oh, can I do that? You know, that's saying, oh, is it, is that right for me? Or, you know, without understanding. W what a world is out there, right? Especially coming, coming, growing up as immigrants, coming from different cultures, different backgrounds.

Um, you know, we come through an environment of, uh, as you as, as you mentioned, like merging, developing, and growing in different areas and all that is me or you, right? So just coming, bringing that. Authenticity out, and you know, believing in yourself and growing from there. I is. What's going to bring the best out of you?

Oh my gosh, Stella. Like so much of it falls down on you, the person, right? Like, and it's, yes. We're not taught, I, I don't know, maybe. See, I have a sister, so we're raised in a household with just sisters like girls, right? So I don't know if it would've been different if I had a brother, but as girls, you know, yeah.

We are taught a little bit, at least as like brown girls, like back then to shrink ourselves a little bit. It has taken me a very long time to use my voice to say, oh, this. Confidence and it's meant to be shared. It's okay to take up space and be a little bit loud. Right. But these are not work. Mm-hmm. I would've said even five years ago, this is a today.

Yeah. You know, um, I hear you. I hear so like, you know that, um, believing in yourself, working on yourself, you know, learning, continuing to learn and, you know, establishing yourself, you know where you want to be. That is how you can grow and, you know, become who you really want to with us. Amazing washer.

Thanks for sharing that with me. Share like in the space specifically if we are looking to get into it. Uh. Finding mentors is, they're a godsend in this industry. Yes. Like people mm-hmm. Who have done the work before you, they've already laid out the path a little bit and maybe it doesn't mirror exactly what you want, but it's pretty close.

Or the person itself is so relatable to you. Right. Like that's why I think representation matters so much for us. That's why us Brown girls are doing these things. 'cause we need to see more of this. Right, exactly. We need to break barriers to go to where we want to be. Right. Sit in tables that we know, we don't feel comfortable, but you know, eventually we need to create that mindset of being belonging there.

Right. So most definitely. The mentorship is very interesting, Rasha, because I, um, one of my previous podcasts with Sandy McKay, he mentioned the same thing. Like, if you want to become someone that you really admire, try to get into their circles. Have, try to become, you know, a part of their day, daily day, daily routines so you can learn from them and adapt from what their, like, you know, mindset, like, you know, work ethics and et cetera.

Right. So most definitely, I. And even just the way, like you said, how do they start their mornings, right? Mm-hmm. It seems so specific and simple, but it is in those simple steps that are compounded over time that just keep repeating itself. That's where something intrinsic, like that's where something shifts inside, right?

Even if it's just the way you view yourself and what you want for your business. But I would say, you know, um, be ready for your business to evolve. Right, like allow space for your business and what you want to evolve. Don't feel stuck in any kind. A place where you think, oh, this, I have to create this, this way because this is how my mission statement was.

And you're one, no, your mission statement is going to evolve over time. The mentors that you select in year one, you'll outgrow them and that's a good thing. Right? So just keep evolving with your business as you evolve. It's a little fluid. Yes, most definitely. So, since you said evolved, I'm gonna ask you this, like, what are the key lessons you learned as a woman navigating the real estate industry?

I. Oh my God. Navigating real estate as a woman. Okay. Um, safety first. But in all honesty, safety is very important. We work with a lot of people that we don't know. They're complete strangers that we work with. Mm-hmm. So, you know, I come into this from, um, previous work experience where I was taught to be very confidential and secure and make sure all my surroundings, like, you know, it's just how I, I I was raised and how my bi like my work had me.

Mm-hmm. If you're not used to that, then set yourself up for success to be safe in real estate because you are working with people that you have no idea. But other than that, learning the business and knowing your place in it, like sometimes women that I speak to are almost afraid to talk about data. I find and, and I think that you're doing yourself a disservice.

We have to know our data in this business. We have to know our numbers. People are constantly going to ask us about the market. We need to be sharp and on top of that on a daily basis. Um, and a woman in real estate, I'd say finding other women that are growth oriented and that think big enough, um, mm-hmm.

And are not very afraid to share. Do you know? Um, yes. And because it's easy for people to be very, like, closed off in this business. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Uh, because there's so many of us in this province. However, when you're sitting at, like you said Ella, when you're sitting at the right tables and you're sitting around the right people, it truly is not a, you are competitive in the sense that you might be from different brokerages, but it is such a collaborative mindset because if you win, I win.

'cause something's working for you. It's amazing. If it works for you, I can, I can do that too, right? Like that's the mindset. So uplifting each other, learning from each other. Most definitely empowering each other. So most definitely. You mentioned, I guess we are like, I believe over 75,000 realtors in our area itself right now.

There's a lot of us, but you know, your uniqueness is very specific. Like, you know, where you come from, what you bring to the table, um, you know how you outshine, um, and what you, uh, pro, you know, you provide to your clientele, to your family. That uniqueness actually carries you where you want to go, right?

So when you come out and, you know, I understand when you said, Hey, the competition is really high. So like a lot of people, they try to keep things like. Cuddled up to themselves. Yes, but you know what I, I agree with you. What I found was the more that you are open about your success, your story, what is working best for you, and how you're getting to where you are getting, you know, what books you are reading, which tables you are going and sitting, sharing those.

Things empowers and lifts everybody around you. And that is very important, especially as women, um, also as immigrants. Um, because when I started, that was a limited belief I had myself, right? Hey, I'm a girl from a small country, a small town. What do I know? Right. So just breaking that mindset, Asha, and coming out to be who, who I am today, individually was a huge journey for me.

Marcella, congratulations. That is not an easy thing to, first of all, that self-awareness piece where you realize these things. That in itself is like, oh my gosh, it's amazing that you know, you get that. Oh, I, I have this limited belief, but then doing the work to break that belief and like to rewire and reframe our own thoughts is the biggest challenge on a daily basis.

Yes. And you know, every, you know, you got this. It's just that you, for you to come out that shell and believe in yourself and work on yourself, educate yourself and partner with other like-minded people. Like, like how I partnered with worship. So you can be what you wanna be. Right. I love it. Like a trikes, like Stella.

It's very true. That's true. Thanks for agreeing with me. And, um, I want to ask, so when you are navigating these different stages or different, uh, characters as a mother, wife and a business order, um, how are you, what, what is your, um, uh, how do I say this? How do you balance your roles? Like how do you, uh, make sure that you are there at every important moment, no matter it's business or life?

Okay, so I cannot say that I have balance because I don't know that I'm even looking for it. To tell you the truth, I think for a while I was, I thought that that's what I was really looking for is this balance. But when we, a few things, right? So when we become mothers, like that role becomes for a lot of us, that becomes our forefront.

That gives me a lot of purpose to build this. To grow to teach this next generation, right? So that is my priority. However, when we became business owners, Stella, it's like. That's my third baby, right? Mm-hmm. So I have two boys, but that's my baby too. And I, it needed me to focus a lot of attention on it in those early years, right?

And that's okay. And so, um, balancing is tricky. Some days, uh, I am, I step into the role more intentionally. I'm like, no, my kids need me today. Especially if there's, you know, any kind of sports or school events or tutoring, like anything that they need. I will say I am so intentional in my calendar. I have it blocked in the sense that the morning and early afternoon is blocked for work related activities, but in that after school block of time, like from three 30 to six 30, um.

You are not gonna get a hold of me because I am doing the afterschool thing with my kids because I want to do that. Right? Like this is a short window of time where they're gonna get off the school bus and they're gonna go talk to me about school and then Yes, build their backpack and we talk about the school day, and then we figure out homework and we figure out, because they need to be set up for success too.

That's my role too. Mm-hmm. Yes, all of that. Having said that, I would be remiss if I didn't say, you know, I am fortunate that I have a supportive partner, right? So my husband, um, steps in, and this is again, a role that he had to learn when I decided to start this business for myself. And none of this came naturally to us, right?

So these are things that we had to learn. So I would say in trying to find balance, I'm actually trying to. Like my husband does all of the cooking now, Stella, you know, so it's so fabulous that that task is off my table and if I really wanna make something, 'cause everyone's like, you gotta make this, then I'll make it.

But he has stepped into that role beautifully. And it's also allowing other people to help us because I don't know about you, but I. For a very long time. I tend to be, no, I can do it best. No, I'm gonna do it my way. But that has shifted in a really big way and that's opened up channels for others around me to just mm-hmm.

Step into the roles that they're good at too. That's true. That's true. No, that's amazing. That's your poverty team that you mentioned there, right? Um. Yeah, that's amazing. But you know, definitely you need your poverty with you when you're actually in this game, um, of winning, uh, especially to back you back you when, when you do need this extra support in case you have a commitment that you have to go there.

That, that you need that. Someone that who can support you to be there and, you know, take over for you, to give you the confidence and also the comfort to move on and do what you need to do at that time. So I'm, I'm very happy to hear that you have that. And that's definitely like every women need, like, you know it no matter where it's coming from, I know it's coming from your husband at this time, but for different people it may be someone else.

But in, as long as you have your, uh, PIL pillars of support, that's definitely gonna give you the strength that you need. That's so good. I love the way you said that, like your power team and your pillars, because like even one of the pillars could be having a personal assistant, like, you know, if you are, if you don't have mo, if motherhood and parenthood and like, you know, all of that is not your journey and you're just looking to start your business, like delegating certain tasks and taking it off the table and figuring out what you are really good at is sort of where you should be focused in playing to best.

A hundred percent focusing on your one thing, delegating the rest, making sure everything is taken care of, moving forward. Women empowerment, Russia, women empowerment. That's, that's true. No, that's amazing. Thanks for sharing that. I wanna ask you, because we are coming from different cultures and different backgrounds, do you, do you believe, or do you feel that your culture background influenced the way that you approach your business analyst?

You know, at first, um, I think it influences every decision that I make and I have an added sort of responsibility because I, uh, at home, uh, it's, we are an intercultural, like interracial marriage, right? So my husband is not at the Indian background. So in raising children who are not, who are mixed, um, I have an added responsibility to at least.

'cause I want it to be, to make sure my culture and the values pass on to my children, but in making sure that I'm intentional in that way, I've come to realize that those are the same threads that follow through into business. Uh, those are the same threads that have followed into the way I've set up my business.

So, yes, absolutely. Um, the cultural aspect of it is evident in my business because mm-hmm. It's, it falls on my highest values of integrity and trust and, you know, service, which is just how I was raised in my Orthodox Hindu, Indian household. Right? So absolutely it close into aspects of business, but we do have, you know, Stella, you two, like we have this dual sort of.

Um, culture. We have the Canadian completely westernized Canadian culture, and we have our cultural upbringings, and I think it's beautiful that we have the ability and opportunity to bring both of them. It makes us a more well-rounded entrepreneur and business owner, I believe. Mm-hmm. But it's also taxing, I will say.

Yeah, that's true. It's very unique. In other words. It's unique. Okay. You know, you, you get to, you, you take, you, you do have the advantage of both cultures now combined together, and then you can create your own with a very nice mixture. Most definitely. Yes, most definitely. Um, you know, I love that you've been saying like break barriers.

I would say that that's become sort of, I didn't know that that was going to be an undercurrent for me, but it is, it's, I'm trying to break this sort of stigma, whether it's in that. Indian mentality or in the Western mentality, we're like, well, let's just meet in the middle. Let's find something that works for us.

That's true. That's true. I think, you know, it comes, uh, naturally when you are with the correct person. Yeah. Um, that you're trying to blend it with. Right. So, most definitely. Um, I wanna also talk about, uh, when it comes to women empowerment, financial stability for women is very important. Um, so as realtors, uh, when we look at it in your viewpoint, Russia, do you think home ownership is an important step towards financial independence for women?

You know, I'm in real estate, so I'm gonna say yes, but even if, even before, you know, we got into real estate, Stella, I'd say that home ownership is the thing that fueled other life decisions and opportunities in my life, I think. Mm-hmm. I think, you know, yes, absolutely. I would say real estate should be one of the pillars that you use, uh, in order to build generational wealth.

But you also have to real like. Just do something in some way. You know, whether it's saving, whether it's investing in stocks and equities, whether it's buying, you know, a joint venture together, whether it's investing in a business, whether it's real estate. It's just the act of doing this for yourself. It doesn't come naturally to a lot of women, and we don't have to start with the largest goal in mind.

We just have to start within our means. So, yeah, I completely think financial empowerment, the conversation at home. I don't know about you, Ella. Like in my home, my father was in charge of all of the finances for a very, very, very long time. And my mother did not have a lot of involvement in that area at all.

Right? Because she was raising the children, driving us to activities, doing all the things, and then when we immigrated here, she was working because still my banker dad, um, everything fell to him. So, you know, I've had to sort of learn to be this person because I. This is beyond who we are, whether we're male or female.

Like every person should be financially independent. Mm-hmm. Most definitely. No, you are right. Even in my household, um, I don't know if it's a thing or where we came from. It is the, it is the father figure in the house who manages the financials mostly. Um, so you know. When, when I grew up, and you know, when I came to that age or stage in my life that I need to now manage finances, it was a huge learning curve for me.

I'm like, oh my God, okay, how do I plan this? Where do I go? How do. But, you know, learning that and understanding the importance of financial management and well wellbeing is very, very important for a successful future. And, um, interestingly, like, you know, I have always craved the stability in life. Um, because, you know, as immigrants we move from one country to the other, looking for a better life.

Um, we are looking for better opportunities. And you know, now, hey, we are in a great country. We have great opportunity here, but. The thing that I have craved growing up to become who I am is the stability. So home is a necessity when we think about stability, right? So definitely like financial, um, empowerment is very important.

I. You know, your stability is very important as well. So in my viewpoint, um, I'm not saying this because I'm a realtor myself. I'm actually saying this because I'm a woman. I'm a mother wife and a mother as well. For me to make sure that I have a safe home for the beautiful family that I'm building, that is very important for me no matter where I'm going in my life.

Like the day takes me coming back to the. To my safeness and being safe in there is my absolute implo importance at the end of the day and making sure my kids are safe there. And I know like you know, it is in a safe neighborhood, in a safe environment that my kids can try. So most definitely. No, I agree from with what you said, SIA.

I just wanna add my 2 cents into it as well. Because it's so crucial that you say that and how beautiful. You're absolutely right. Stability is, and they say, you know, children raised in stable homes, like having homes actually do much, I don't know the exact stat, but I read it recently in a book. But they end up, you know, their life ends up looking quite different in their future in terms of what they need for success and socioeconomic success and things like that, right?

Mm-hmm. And it starts stable home environment, or at least home. The environment is what we create. Yes, most definitely. So, in a nutshell, walsha, like when we talk about women empowerment, what does that resonate for you? Oh my gosh, Stella, it's, it's all encompassing. I would say, you know, for a long time, for me empowerment was let's, uh, raise each other up.

Let's raise each other up. And it still is. It still is, but it's also. Building ladders in a way for women. Um, you know, much like when we talked about someone who's already gone ahead of us and laid out the path for us, it truly fast tracks it for us. That chunk of, of, you know, time. So I would say empowerment to me is of course, raising voices and raising women, but also building ladders for others to join us.

You know, up here to join us on our journey. Yeah, most definitely. That's beautiful washer. Thanks for saying that. And if I was to ask you, uh, to conclude the conversation today, what is one message that you like to share with, uh, all the women out there who are just starting their journey? What would that be?

Starting their journey into entrepreneurship? Um, it could be like anywhere in their life. Maybe it's a new immigrant, like a student at this time, or someone that who's been a housewife and thinking about maybe breaking into employment or entrepreneurship like anywhere in their life. I would say that, you know, you are capable of more than you know, uh, and don't wait for permission.

Like give yourself permission and just take the first step. That's beautiful. 100%. I agree with you on that. What an incredible conversation. Stella talking with you. This has been insane. I know, I know, I know. I don't even feel like it's been this long, but you know, it's been great connecting with you. Your journey is truly inspiring from embracing new beginnings as an immigrant to empowering others through real estate and by authentic storytelling.

Your your podcast. Oh my God, that's amazing. You have shown us the power of resilience, courage, and community worship. That's amazing. Um, as, as we celebrate International Women's Day this month, let's remember the importance of supporting and empowering one another, whether it is through mentorship.

Friendship. Simply sharing your stories or all, or have the power and inspire change, and make a difference To our listeners, thank you very much for joining us today. I hope you are leaving this conversation feeling inspired, motivated, and ready to celebrate the incredible women in your life. If you enjoy today's episode, don't forget to subscribe and share with someone who could use a dose of inspiration, and we want to hear from you.

Let us know the topics that you love to discuss, and we will definitely bring that in our upcoming episodes. You can watch this episode on all our pre, uh, previous ones on all platforms, starting from YouTube. Spotify, apple Podcast. All links are in the description below. Washa, thank you once again for sharing your journey and insights.

It was absolutely an honor having you on the Stella Talk Show. Thank you, Stella, for this opportunity. I'm very honored to be here. Most welcome. Absolutely. Until next time, keep thriving in life, wealth and real estate. This is Stella Ram signing off from the Stella Talk Show. Stay empowered, stay inspired, and let's keep building legacies together.

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