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“From Truck Driver to Mortgage Powerhouse: Building Trust, Breaking Limits & Owning Your Story”

What if your biggest setback was actually your setup for something greater?

In this week’s episode of The Stellar Talk Show, we sit down with Ayzaz Ahmed Islam—a man who went from trucking freight across the country to moving families into homes, one mortgage at a time. His story is more than a career change—it’s a masterclass in grit, reinvention, and heart-led hustle.

Ayzaz opens up about the failure of his first business with his brother, the turning point that led him into the mortgage world, and how honesty—not hustle—is what closes long-term deals. He’s candid about the sacrifices, the growth, and the deep WHY that fuels everything: his family.

💬 Whether you're navigating a pivot, bouncing back from a closed door, or chasing your own entrepreneurial dream—this conversation will light a fire in your spirit.

🎯 What You’ll Learn:

Why failure isn’t fatal—but a foundation

How to build client trust through radical honesty

The truth behind “freedom” in entrepreneurship

Why bringing your kids to networking events matters

How mentorship and mindset create legacy

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SUMMARY:
In this episode of the Stellar Talk Show, we explore the inspiring journey of Ayzaz Ahamed Islam, who transitioned from a truck driver to a successful figure in the mortgage and real estate industry. He shares his experiences of resilience, the importance of mentorship, and the sacrifices made along the way. The conversation delves into the significance of family, the true meaning of success, and the legacy one leaves behind. Listeners are encouraged to embrace failures as stepping stones to success and to prioritize what truly matters in life.

Takeaways

Failing is very important; it puts you on the next step.
You have to actually fail to know your limits.
Success is when your family is there.
Sacrifices need to be made in every career.
Mentorship completely molds you.
Every loss is just a step up for your next win.
It's not the money; it's the memories that matter.
You make the most money when you buy, not when you sell.
Tough times don't last; tough people do.
You gotta keep pushing yourself.


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What made the change from where you were to your journey to where you are right now? So slowly slowly what happened is it backfired. The work stopped coming in. For a lot of people when you hit that uh bottom of failure, it's very harder to shift the mindset to try again. And failing is is very important. What does legacy mean to you? What's the legacy that you want to leave uh with us? Cry right now.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Stellar Talk Show. Today's episode is all about the kind of story that reminds you anything is possible when you bet on yourself. Even when you're starting from nothing but a dream and a whole lot of grit. We are calling this one from the ground up because today's guest is living proof that where you start doesn't define where you end up. From the driver's seat of a truck to losing his first business to now becoming a powerhouse in the mortgage and real estate world, Isis Ahmed Islam is here to share the raw unfiltered truth about resilience, real trust, and rebuilding a life you're proud of brick by brick. So, if you ever felt like you've behind, like you failed, or like no one sees your vision yet, this episode is for you. We are talking pivoting through pressure and how honesty builds real business. Supporting your family while chasing your dream and why every loss is just the step up for your next win. Trust me, this one hits different. So grab your coffee, your journal, or just your full attention because you're about to get inspired from the ground up. Let's go.

Hias, welcome to the show. Hey Stella, thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to have you. It's an honor to be here. Thank you. So, take us back to where it all started. It's very inspiring to hear like, you know, you were a truck driver in the beginning. Yes. And what what made the change from where you were to your journey to where you are right now? So, it it started off actually before even trucking. I was in construction, but I didn't do construction for too long. Okay. It was uh maybe like 2 years on and off. I did some uh concrete forming, did some uh framing work and some painting and then I got the trucking from there. And how that happened was uh I was working at a site and some truck driver pulled in and it was a very tight spot and I seen him like do some weird things back and forth and I don't know how he was doing it but he backed up and I was like, "Oh my god, this is what I want to do." Right? And and that's when I got into it and um I started off as a driver. Obviously it was very tough to get my license originally when I started. Uh when I got it uh I started off as a driver. I worked for somebody for about two years, three years and then I bought my first truck after that. I became an owner operator and I started doing long hauls. I used to go to the bird and I'm back. Uh long hours obviously, you know, cuz you're always on the road. You barely get to see your family and stuff, right? And uh from there, my brother wanted to join in as well. So he went and got a truck license and he hopped on with me. So now we're both doing it. So we're like, "Okay, let's grow, you know, cuz if I'm doing it, then we can buy another truck and we could just do one you, one me, right? And we're on the road all the all the time together." This is long haul trucking. Long haul trucking. Yeah. So I'm back. It was within Canada. I haven't didn't touch states too much. Okay. Right. I know everybody wants to travel the states, but I stayed stayed in Canada mostly. So we started doing that and then it went well for a bit, right? And then we decided to do our own dispatching and we bought our own trailer. Okay, let's do our own dispatching. Let's do our own invoicing. M and um the ball started rolling. What happened is as you're getting older, you need more manpower, right? And uh people are trusting you with work, that means they're giving you more work, right? And if they're giving you more work, you need to be acble to accommodate to to their demand. And we didn't have the equipment nor the manpower to grow that fast as fast the work was coming in. So like uh we have two trucks in a trailer, right? Two trailers. And then the the workload demanded having four or five trucks, right? And we weren't like financially stable to do that. We'll just go downhill from there, right? Yeah. So slowly slowly what happened is it backfired. The work stopped coming in. Oh, okay. Because you were not able to keep up with that. Keep up with the demand, right? The work stopped coming in and we pushed like we pushed for like almost like I'm going to say like good good year and a half. This was like being in business, right? We tried it and uh then eventually my brother is like listen this is not working out and we got to do our own thing separately from our company. Right. I see. Okay. So we shut the company down and he just took one truck and I took one truck and we just worked on our own. I still have the truck actually. So we did that for about uh 10 to 12 years all together. I see. No, I was in trucking for about 13 years all together. And uh we left it and that's it. Yeah. That's how my my I I started rolling my wheels. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, that's that's no that's amazing. Thanks very much for taking the time to share that. So for a lot of people when you hit that uh bottom of failure it's very harder to shift the mindset to try again and you know get to that ball rolling and keep aiming for the next and what's next and what's next right so for you what was that pivoted moment look like how were you able to shift your mindset from where when that happens to where you are right now um personally I think failing is is very important like I know like as bad as it sounds it actually puts you in a next step you You fall, you learn something and you move forward. You learn something again, you move forward. I think if you're not failing, you're really not trying. You know, you're not you're not putting your efforts into something. You have to actually fail. Like then you know that you've touched your limit, right? So I I failed in construction, I believe, right? I learned a lot from it. Like I do my housework on my own. Like I I have repairs to do. I do drywalling. Whatever the case may be, I could do it all on my own. I don't need to hire anybody or a contractor, right, to pay somebody. I could do it all on my own. And then uh when it comes to trucking, I I failed a lot there. I learned how to do how to do business, how to be up early in the morning, like 4 in the morning, be on the road, right? Uh stay awake more longer hours, right? I sleep less, all that. And uh talk to people from all different ethnicities and different regions of of Canada. Uh all that and I wouldn't call that a failure. I would call that maybe it helped me in becoming what I am today or moving forward from now. Right. Yeah, that's inspiring mindset. That's really good. So you took the good out of it and you left the rest% and you move forward with the good 100%. And that that is how it should be for everybody. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. So tell me like when you switched gears from trucking um to business ownership and to like what's next? You were initially thinking about real estate and Yes, I was. And then you said okay let's move to mortgage. How did that happen? What was that move about? First of all, I like how you said you shift gears to to switch to a different topic. Okay. So what happened is I was originally interested in real estate. Yeah. For like a I would say about 3 years for my transition from trucking when I was thinking about leaving it for about 3 years I was uh leaning towards real estate market. And um the thing is the course is long you know you cannot I can't do trucking full-time and then focus on real estate. It doesn't work like there's no there's no time for life after that. Right. Yeah. So, so a friend of mine came to me and gave me an idea that uh why not go towards mortgages and because it's a shorter course move towards that build that and then from there go to real estate slowly cuz it'll take me longer to finish the course cuz it's about 6 months or two years to do that course right even if you take your time time with it right so then I got toward went towards mortgages from there and it just so happened God like I don't know you know God did a miracle and it's working out for me better and I don't think I I want to lean to it. Not nothing is wrong with real estate. I know you're in real estate. Nothing's wrong with it. But I think I rather just stick to u the mortgage aspect of it. Yeah. You're the numbers guy, right? I I like the numbers. Yes. Real estate is not everybody's cup of tea. Yeah. Yeah. And same goes to mortgages, not everybody is thorough in mortgages as well, right? So that's why like when I talk to a few mortgage people too like you know when one person says maybe or no, wonders someone else can get it done for us. So definitely you know talking to different people give different perspectives. And same same goes to real estate as well, right? So there are unique differences, unique expertise that we need to explore and you know choose the the best person that wipes well with you and you know carry on from there. I I know there are like realtors that have and mortgage agents that have both licenses, right? But honestly for me like being in mortgages, I I can't find time to do real estate. Yes. I'm not sure how it's from the realtor's aspect. Do you have time to like go into the mortgage aspect of it? Like it's very difficult to do both, you know. But there are people that have licenses. Maybe they're like silent in one of them, but I'm not sure how they're how they're working towards it. But yeah, it's funny that you said that because um I got my mortgage license first, but I never practiced. Oh, so you you did. Okay. Yeah, I did. I got my mortgage license first, but I never practiced because, you know, um it was not the area that I, you know, I felt like that I would thrive in. So, I continued in banking for a few years after that. Then I said, "Okay, I'm going to get into real estate. That's where I'm actually really vibing and I can I can see myself grow. So, as you mentioned, you know, when you have both like I felt like, you know, I should take the take the mortgage license again once I was in and you know, doing business, but as you mentioned, you know, no, you can't you can't it's it's if you do that, I feel I feel like for for myself, I'm talking for myself. I'm doing dishonest for both because, you know, I can't give my best for both to either or. Yeah. Exactly. So, I'm going to give best for what I'm good at. So, I'm going to continue and I I'll let you do your mortgage thing. Yeah. Cuz you're you're going to burn out eventually. Soon or later, you're going to burn off from doing both. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. But okay, tell me like you know you mentioned before like when you started into mortgage career, your first deal was a failure. Oh yeah. Yeah. Right. Tell me a little bit about that and how you overcame that and I know what was the mindset at that time and you know did you learn anything there? What was the pivoting moment there? So my first deal I wasn't too knowledgeable I would say right but I tried right so I tried from the best of my abilities to help the client the client had um I can give an example of what happened to the client the client had uh high debts and the income was good as well but the debts were very high okay so they were like barely meeting and whatever the rental income was would have been around the mortgage payment as well the same right but I was telling them it's better to wait and lower your debts a little bit so you can be comfortable cuz when you're when you own a house. It's not just a mortgage you got to worry. You got to worry about like maintenance. You got you need to have time for like lawn or if you're going to hire somebody, they got to mow your lawn, you got to have you got to pay them. Other repair bills come up. You know, you you own the property, you got to maintain it somehow, right? So, I was telling them that it's not in their best interest to to to go for that, right? And I was very honest about it. And what the lady did, she she got it done, but not for me. She she went on and uh she found someone who would do it for her. And I'm I'm fine with that. What I learned from that is I believe I did nothing wrong, you know, like I I tried my best to to accommodate to her. I gave her a game plan how to move forward towards it. But there's nothing on my conscious about it, you know, like if something happens and she god forbid like leans towards like a bankruptcy or a consent proposal like at least it's not on me that hey I made that happen. I ruined their life for the next four to seven years, right? Or or what their kids I don't know what's going to happen. God knows what's going to happen, right? But I don't want to be responsible for that. Yeah. No, I hear I hear you like you know um you don't want to be house poor exactly when you're getting into a mortgage right so you know you I think you did you did your part well I as you know taking the time to you know go through the details because um when somebody is shifting from renting to owning there are other costs apart from the monthly rent or the mortgage like property taxes the maintenance if it's a condo um and you know you need to look at the whole picture and you know the income and see you know if that balances out really well and breaking it down to someone that who's intending that pathway is the right thing to do in my opinion because then they will be able to understand and you know grasp what what is next for them once the mortgage gets approved. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's the right thing that you did but you know whatever suits the clients best. Right. Of course 100%. Yeah. I lost the deal though. I was very happy about that. I'm like I got my first deal. Let's get But you learned a lot. I learned a lot. Yeah. That's that's the win, right? Learned a lot. Yeah. So you me you also mentioned to me when you're talking to me uh about mentorship and how why it's important especially when you're changing gears getting into a new career um the mentorship being in that circle the the circle of influence in other words right why is that important and what did that do to you in your career honestly it completely molds you so like a person who knows what they're doing and if they're your mentor I'm sure you've had them too right mine are like Rah and Rabia like honestly they're godsendent okay they're amazing like guiding you through every deal. Uh making sure how to talk to a client, how to structure a deal, what documents to ask for, where to send the deal. The most important is where to send the deal, which lender to choose, right? All that a new person does not know it. Like, you know, I did not know it. I'm still learning. Like I I barely like I think I have barely touched the surface of it, right? I'm still learning. I got a lot of learning to do on it. But had they not had somebody not mentored me, I would have probably still been sitting on my first deal trying to figure out what to do next. and that disheartenment like the the way you feel when you lose a deal, you know, like the first year I lost I'm like, "Oh man, this is not for me. I was better off in trucking." At least I seen something coming in. The results were coming in every day, right? This way there's someone telling you it's okay. It's part of the game. You know, some are you're going to get you're going to get some, you're going to lose some. You move forward. You know, that's the way it is. And mentorship mentorship is like I think it's top. It's very important. Yeah. No, I agree with you. So like as you mentioned I also have my own men mentorships that you know within the brokerage and above. Um so the mentorships the coaching that you received from the very beginning to have that mindset and also to level up in your career because you know there's lo so many thousands of mortgage agents out there thousands of realtors out there. How do you outshine and what's how like how can you be um not competitive but you know um come up level up to be there for your client when when they are available that mindset shift is very important very important yeah and to have that mentorship is very important I would say of course 100% yeah being in that circle seeing what their day looks like the routines the best behaviors they practice and try to grasp and learn from that is you know what actually brings the best of us I I would say yeah of course even the communication like you have to know how to talk to a client, right? Not not just client like leads that are coming in. You have to have a a communication that sets you forth like okay maybe not now but in the future it's going to happen. How to make that transition happen from now till the deal is closed. Maybe it could be a year from now. Yes. Two years but you have to you have to be sitting on that lead for a while right you have to nurture it. Yes. Right. And how to do that? That comes from mentorship. All of that. Definitely. Definitely. There's no way I could have done it. Like in trucking I can barely remember people. Yeah. Right. And in this industry, I remember like, hey, you know what? Oh, remember I I got to contact that person. Make sure you follow up with this person, you know, send an email, quick reply, send a hi, hello, how are you, you know, happy, merry Christmas, stuff like that, right? Yeah. That those things matters. The human touch matters, especially in an age that we are like so AI thrived, the human touch actually definitely makes a difference. Of course, most definitely. Um so I want to also ask when you are in that entrepreneur mindet uh mindset um and a lot of people who are in that um space we always talk about the winning the goals the what's next for me but you also talked about the sacrifices that you made to get yourself to where you are right now and to continue your journey through that success what sacrif sacrifices that you had to make through that journey okay tell me a little bit about that you know why is that important do you think so um I I think sacrifices need to be made in every career. No matter where if you want to be successful in anything, they come with it. It's part of the package, right? The sacrifices the mostly that I have had to make is family time to be honest with you, right? And okay, if if we're talking about hobbies, I I don't really have much hobbies. I never really did. I'm just a gym guy. That's it. I work out. If you guys should work out too, it's good for you. You look good. You look good. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. So, uh it's mostly family time. Before when in trucking I couldn't give that at all cuz when I'm on the road I was gone for like one one to two weeks at a time. So there was no nothing at all right just phone calls video calls and that's it. Being in mortgages at least I have that hey you know what I can I can work a certain amount of time certain hours and my kids are here wife's here family's here parents are here. I can give them this amount of time and then go back to what I got to do. Yeah. Right. That nothing replaces that time honestly. You know what? No matter how much money you make, cuz once those people are gone out of your life, you're not getting them back. That's true. Right. So, it means a lot to me. It gives you the ability to spend the time where it's needed, most needed. Exactly. Where where the most value is. 100%. Most definitely. Most definitely. And that is your family, right? As much as people think it's money, it's it's really not. It's it's family. It's family most because you know, end of the day what we do the the the the goals of having successful being successful is end of the day is to bring it back to your family. Of course, because you want to be an um an outstanding individual for your kids to look up to and also, you know, leave a legacy for your family to be proud of. Yeah. You can't take the money with you. Yeah. Exactly. You got to leave it somewhere. That's true. That's true. They're going to miss you more than the money. No, that's true. That's true. It's not the money, it's the memories that matters, the time spent. Um so what's inspires me is I have seen you bring your family your wife even right now your wife your kids um to wherever you go even like business meets um seminars and things like that events why is it important to you Isaas do you think that makes a difference um okay it's important to me because u growing up I never really had that like I'm not saying that my parents did a bad did an amazing job alhamdulillah raising me up right but um I didn't have that networking with with with people, a one-on-one, the professionalism, right? The professional setting. I didn't have that. Uh, I see that potentially in my kids cuz they're very outgoing. They talk to everybody. And I think it's I I should bring that out, bring it out of them more. Like they go to events with me. They network more than I do, you know? They talk to everybody. They they give my business cards out, right? They're more into it than I am. And they push me. Like honestly, the first one I ever took him to, like there were like about I don't know like 300 realtors there, right? The event, right? And they were the the stars of the of the show, of the whole event. They were on the with their mic. They were like, "Oh, use my papa for mortgages and stuff like that." And it was an amazing feeling, right, to have that. And and I think it was a way people connected with me as well because because they're there, the kids are they see I think people see like, you know, if when somebody brings their kids to a to a place, they see a family. Yes. Right. So when I'm when they're looking at me working with them, they know that I'm looking at a family as well, right? It's not just it's not just me I'm worried about. It builds the personal connection much stronger. Exactly. Yeah. Yes. Oh, that's amazing. And I have seen them. They're wonderful. They're beautiful girls growing up, right? No. Bless. Um so tell me um like in today's economy that we are in right now um and you know with the trades and you know all the interest buzz and everything uh from a mortgage industry uh Isaas if you're giving an piece of advice to anybody uh who's uh who's a homeowner um an investor or like a first-time home buyer who's like thinking about stop renting and buying right now. What would be a good piece of advice that you would like to share with them? Okay. I think right now is the perfect time to buy a house. I I don't see it getting any better. Actually, I think I it might get worse if they don't get into it right now. Right. Uh house uh market is low. House prices are low. Interest rates are low right now. They're not the lowest, but they are low, right? And they they're obviously you can always go back and renew in a couple of years or or or lower your interest rates at a time, but the house price once it goes up, it's going to go up. M and the reason I'm saying is it might it might go up is because RBC already put up their rates a little bit right for fixed right so if you don't get in now if people don't get into the market right now they're going to miss the boat you know and then when they miss the bowl they're going to be like oh I wish the house prices were lower yes you know or or the interest wasn't uh that low at that moment right I think right now is the time to get into the market and I think you guys should get in if I if I could I would buy a couple of properties right now yes I got Okay. No, I know where to cut. No, I was going to say like, you know, interest rate is a number that fluctuates all the time. You know, I I mentioned this in many of my other episodes as well. Um like, you know, in 1980s, like interest rate was 20%. Yeah. People still bought. People still bought. Yes. Nothing stopped because, you know, end of the day, housing is a basic need. Um everybody needs a house. You know, that's where your comfort is, your memories are, that's where your life thrives, right? So having that that piece owned to you is very important. So if a interest rate a number that fluctuates all the time is going to stop you. I would say just change your lens and look at it in a different lens because um truth be said like the the big investors or the people that who has come a long way before us. What they have said is like you make the most of the money not when you sell but when you buy because the lower price point is more important exactly to have that bigger sale. Bigger sale in the future. In the future right so most definitely I agree with you. This is a very good time. The prices are much favorable for home buyers. Interest rate is not 1.99 as we did see in the co times. But you know that's an unusual situation for everybody for the market to have. It shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Exactly. It shouldn't be a dealbreaker. It it's a number that fluctuates. If if it's within your affordability based on your household income and if you have the down payment, nothing should stop you. Nothing should stop you. No. Exactly. It's better than paying somebody else's mortgage. Exactly. Right. Most definitely. So, thank you very much for sharing that. And I just tell me, what does success mean to you? Like, you know, you you've done like, you know, I' I've seen you as someone that who made it and you know, and made it again. Yeah. Didn't give up on yourself? So, for you, what does success look like and what does it mean to you at this time in this space? For me, success would be when I can call myself stable in a way where making money or not making money isn't really the main concern for me anymore. Right. Success is when when your family is there and that means more to you at that time than a deal would. Mhm. You're a family man. Yeah. I guess I I would like to say that. I would like to say that. That's great. That's amazing. You know, because you know, we don't see this side every day. Like what we see is the is the person that we see for mortgages. uh the person that who brings you know wakes up every morning and you know be present for their clients to who matters the most uh on the in the financial side of it but we don't see the other side what happens in the family so it's very nice to see that you have like in-depth connections with the family the importance that you give there of course yeah so so success would be that making sure your family's happy you're happy and work is there it's always going to be there right that not to say that you should refuse a deal or or tell somebody you don't got time for That is that's not what I'm saying at all. But you got to prioritize what's more important and do it at that time. And when you're able to when that prioritizing becomes normal, I think that is success. That is amazing. That's a wonderful that's a really good uh way of looking at success for yourself and for others. Most definitely. So um if I was to ask you what will be a good um piece of advice or a note that you want to leave our audience with today with this everchanging economy that we're in right now and the market trends, what would that be? it will be to not give up. You know, tough times don't last. Tough people do. You got to keep moving and and make the best out of your times. And there's no way you're not going to make it, right? The only way you're not making is if you give up and that should not be in your mind at all. Just keep pushing yourself. I know that times are hard right now. Market is bad, but that is not the end of the world, right? It's it's going to get better. It's been bad. It's been worse. Like Stella said, it's been 20% interest rates before, right? and it's been better and people have made money in the real estate market. Not just that, like the entire economy, every job is down right now, right? But that doesn't mean you should give up on it. You got to keep pushing and time will come where you'll thrive 100%. Yeah, most definitely. Thank you very much for sharing that. So, let's change gears again and talk about Okay. What does legacy mean to you? What's the legacy that you want to leave uh with us uh in life, in business, in family? What what does that mean for you? And what would you like that to be for for when it comes to business? I want to be that person that someone can say he could have got it done, right? Who should have gone to him if he was alive? He he would have been the guy, you know, no headaches, transparency, like uh smooth process, it would have been him, right? That that would have been my business aspect. For kids, for family wise, it would be more like um I wish it was still here, right? You know, I wish it was still here. You're going to make me cry on this podcast. That is her goal. You know, it's going to be like, you know, I wish he was still here or whatever he did, he did to his best of his abilities, you know. Um, he put us on a level. Yeah. So, just striving your best to be the best person that you can be in every role that you play on a daily basis. Exactly. That is the end goal. Yeah. That's a really good legacy to have. Is appreciation. You're making me cry right now. That was not my goal. Okay. But that actually shows how sensitive and sensible you are, right? That's amazing. That's that's a very good personal to carry. That legacy is beautiful as you know leaving and you know being the best role in every role that you play on a daily basis for your family, for your clients, you know, that matters the most. So it's a beautiful legacy to have. Yeah. Thank you. So I thank you so much for taking your time, you know, sitting down with me, sharing your story and your legacies to build, right? And that's amazing that I hope this inspires a lot of our audience today as well. And thank you again so much for coming in and talking to me today. Oh, it was a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. Most welcome. Okay. Wow. If you're not feeling fired up right now, go back and play that episode once again because that was the realest conversation we've had in a while. Is didn't just drop mortgage knowledge. He shared a blueprint for building a life from the ground up. One built on truth, trust, and never giving up, even when no one else sees your vision yet. If today's episode hit home for you, if you felt seen, inspired, or just a little more capable than you did an hour ago, do me a quick favor. Share this episode with one person who needs it. Your brother, your best friend, your younger self, whoever comes to your mind right now. That's the power of paying it forward. And hey, hit that like button, subscribe, and leave a quick review. 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