Jest Out of Jurisdiction

Ground hogs, Gators, and Bears. Oh My!

JOOJPOD Season 1 Episode 4

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This episode features Patrick Nunley, a veteran first responder, as he recounts wild stories from his career, including unexpected encounters with wildlife and high-speed chases. The discussion highlights the unpredictability of police work, the camaraderie formed in the academy, and the challenges faced in adapting to a new location through laughter and shared experiences.

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Speaker 1

Blue lights from the dead of the night, lying low to run a dim street light Laughing through the written reports. Truth stranger than the wildest courts, tales from the force gone astray, caught up in the games they play. High speed chases gone awry. Serious turns into pie in the sky, just out of jurisdictionisdiction.

Speaker 2

We've got TDOT with us here again. We've got our special guest, Mr Patrick Nunley.

Speaker 3

All the way from the Sunshine State. Yep, he's smart. He got out of here Right into the winter.

Speaker 2

He got out of here, yeah.

Speaker 3

Two inches of snow today.

Speaker 2

He's already complaining about how cold it is. Yeah, we chose a good time to come back.

Speaker 3

It was like 14 degrees today. It was, it was brutal, brutal day it was, it was brutal.

Speaker 2

But Patrick, we've known him for a long time. He's been a first responder for quite a while, starting with dispatch and then police officer. He's now policing in a different state than when he started and me and Patrick actually went to the academy together, us and another officer. We were all hired at the same time. So we've got a few of those stories coming up, um, and uh, we'll see what all he's got, uh got for us that he's got into adventures down in the sunny florida yeah, I've known patrick a lot longer than this, though I knew him when he was a baby.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, so I've got to see him grow up and become quite the idiot. Quite the village dunce, you've made it, you've arrived. If you've made it to this podcast, yeah now.

Speaker 4

I'm going nationwide, nationwide. I'm taking it on tour.

Speaker 2

I will add, just in Patrick fashion, he was late today.

Speaker 3

Well, he put his cool. That's never happened before in his tour.

Speaker 4

I've always been known for being prompt.

Speaker 3

Yes, He'll be here in a minute, we're good. So Patrick and I, I mean, I remember the day he started dispatch. What year was that? 2005. 2005. October of 2005. I was a seasoned officer of three years at the time. Yeah, a lot under your belt. So I gave him the nickname of the FNG, which he still has, and I don't understand how he kept that. He was the most senior guy up there and he was still the FNG and it's just some things just stick with you.

Speaker 4

We're still trying to figure out what it stood for. We can guess. Use your imagination.

Speaker 1

FNG guy.

Speaker 3

So we got him in. I don't know how he came all the way from Florida to be with us, just us. I can't believe we got him here.

Speaker 2

No other reason.

Speaker 3

His parents.

Speaker 2

His parents, his family, just us.

Speaker 3

I can't believe we got him here. It's quite shocking. So, patrick, we can talk about academy, we can talk about dispatching. I think you even was like rescue or firefighter or something dumb. I wasn't really good at that. That's scary.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I was not good at that. I just kind of showed up and then quite the Irish goodbye.

Speaker 3

So that counts as our first firefighter on the show.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and our last. No, I don't know, we might have another, we'll have a few.

Speaker 3

But I remember thinking, patrick, why in the world do you want to get into policing? When both of y'all went to the academy I probably asked both of y'all like probably you mostly, because you were like making good money doing smart things you were supervising at the dispatch center, probably making more money. Um, and I don't know if I said on y'all's hiring board back then or I know I trained you guys because I think the first, the first big deal man you got into was at, uh, taco Bell, was that you and I, yes, yes, I remember that.

Speaker 4

So we're minding our own business, really Were we getting food or were we on a call? No, it was a wreck. Okay, it was a simple little wreck. Yes, a woman in a minivan was in the drive-thru and was getting ready to come around to the menu board there we go and had bumped into the car in front of her. So they called in the little minor accident.

Speaker 3

This is like. By the time I got you, it was probably week six or something, no I had you toward the end. Yeah, I was kind of always the chick guy Because I was not a good trainer. I was like, yeah, this guy dude, because I don't want to do the paperwork.

Speaker 4

Yes, but yeah, she had bumped that other woman in the rear end and obviously they called in for an accident report and we showed up and that woman was acting and the one who was in the van in the back was acting belligerent.

Police Encounters Gone Wild

Speaker 3

Yeah, she just kind of Like just foolish, but I don't think we took her to jail, or did we? No, we did. Okay, yeah, she had it coming. Well, eventually, we gave her, yeah, we gave her a lot of grace.

Speaker 4

We gave her a wide berth, yeah.

Speaker 2

Was she doped up or was?

Speaker 4

it just mean.

Speaker 3

No, and I don't remember what to do.

Speaker 4

We feel sobriety or tried. I think we just took a break. I think we tried or something. And she I don't remember what got her started or what set her off, because they were standing out in the parking lot away from their vehicles when we got there and then she kept trying to go back to her van and I remember when we got her we went back and she had like a little revolver.

Speaker 3

I think she was going to go try to get. She was mad at us. Oh, she was, She'd lost her Crazier than a tie-dye.

Speaker 4

And then her son comes on. So, as we were taking her, and finally we just like she crossed that threshold and we decided well, you're going to jail.

Speaker 3

She crossed that threshold and we decided well, you're going to jail, Right? Yeah, she had really pushed.

Speaker 4

Oh, she kept poking the bear and poking the bear. Whatever it was, it was a. I don't even know if there was paint transfer on this wreck.

Speaker 2

What else are you supposed to do if you can't Nothing?

Speaker 4

Yeah, so she kept on and we were there for a minute and we got her finally stuffed at the back of the. She was no little woman in the back of the cruiser, but she was. I would guess she was probably nurse she had to be she probably 60s. But yeah, as we did that, then her son just randomly appears. I'm walking across from the, from the Walmart yeah, the Shopping.

Speaker 3

Center parking lot. You get everything wrong.

Speaker 1

He just comes up out of the blue.

Speaker 4

I remember he started you said he was sitting there and he was kind of cool with us. He wasn't like belligerent or anything, no, he was pretty cool Then at this point and you said how did it go? You said what's her deal? Is she just crazy or what? And that guy looked at it and he said I don't know a little bit what about you guys? And you said, yeah, I might be.

Speaker 4

I am crazy yeah and then right after that he made some threats. Yeah, we got to see in a bunch of like people was sharing on Facebook like that evening, yeah, or maybe the next day we went off shift and but he got on social media and was blasting us, making like he was going to kill us. Yeah, he made a bunch of like targets and said, yeah, london PD's now got a target on their back.

Speaker 4

So I filed for a warrant for terrorist threat and we went out there. And we went out there and picked him up.

Speaker 3

We went way out somewhere and there was a strange. Yeah, I remember.

Speaker 4

We walked up to the porch, she was already out of jail.

Speaker 3

She answered the door for us. We were like where's he at?

Speaker 1

And she was cool as could be then.

Speaker 4

And she's like, yeah, he's in there and she was cool as could be. Then, yeah, and he looked down because he had like three marijuana plants growing on the front porch and he said something's wrong with your mater plants here.

Speaker 3

That's a little strange looking mater plants bud, so we ended up taking it like we had.

Speaker 4

All this stemmed from a stupid little minor that we probably wouldn't have even done a crash report no, I don't even think we would have done nothing.

Speaker 3

Maybe an incident?

Speaker 1

report.

Speaker 3

Maybe at best, Maybe just swap info.

Speaker 4

She got arrested for whatever we charged her with, he got it for terroristic threatening.

Speaker 3

On us.

Speaker 1

And then a cultivating.

Speaker 3

That's awesome. It went way out of control for something. And then the guy was. He was a man.

Speaker 4

We got to the bookend and he was like man, I'll wash your cars for you.

Speaker 3

Like he was I took him up on it because my car was pretty dirty, but that's how a car can go from just zero to 100. Oh, snowballs, and it's insanity.

Speaker 2

I'm seeing a pattern, though, oh, it snowballs and it's insanity. I'm seeing a pattern, though, when you're out on training with T-Dot. He has a tendency to take you out on something simple, and it turned into a goat roping.

Speaker 3

Was you two on the? He's a shit magnet.

Speaker 2

Yeah, do you remember going out on that welfare check? He was an SRO still yet.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And I went out with you Because that's summertime.

Speaker 3

That's the only reason I trained like that.

Speaker 2

Yeah. I caught summer, so I went out with you on that. We go, it's just a simple welfare check. And you told me on the way in said this kid's supposed to be selling dope at the high school, selling marijuana, or whatever. I was like okay, so we don't go in, we're just sitting there talking. Well, the kid gets up, d-dot's talking to the parents. The kid gets up and runs back to the back bedroom.

Speaker 4

It was a welfare check on that kid.

Speaker 2

Yeah, like he'd made some kind of post or something on Facebook.

Speaker 3

Oh, this is when I came in. You hadn't been on long, had you?

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker 3

And I came out on the evening because I had a missing girl. Yeah, and it ends up over at this guy's house.

Speaker 2

Okay, is that what it was?

Speaker 3

We're just tracking down where it was Right. Well, yeah, go ahead, because that's crazy.

Speaker 2

So I go out there with him and he's like this will be simple, we'll just go talk to him.

Speaker 3

Just try to find the girl, yeah just try and find information.

Speaker 2

And we get there and we're talking to him. They're sitting in the living room one of the kids is and then he runs into the back bedroom. I'm like, well, that's odd. So I go follow him along my way down the hallway on this. Here comes this little 13 year old holding a nine millimeter.

Speaker 3

Oh, he just run out so I draw down on him yeah I'm like gun you know, yeah, I couldn't get back there to gun.

Speaker 2

You know all that.

Speaker 3

I tripped over that woman's auction hose that's cause I was tied up in that auction hose from that old lady. I couldn't get past her. That ain't the first time I got stood on the auction so.

Speaker 2

I've got him disarmed and all that T-Dot comes around the corner and he said did you say something about a gun?

Speaker 3

I must have been losing my hearing at that point I was like I've got it. Oh, we found dope all over that place, it was five pounds.

Speaker 2

He had a five-pound bag of marijuana.

Speaker 3

And this was a 14, 15?, oh yeah.

Speaker 1

And then there was some 18-year-old kid there 18.

Speaker 4

Well, I won't say names, but I wonder if it's the same kid that I've? It was, yes.

Speaker 2

It's the same group.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah, always had them. Yep, yeah, versace stuff.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

We caught him a few times, yeah.

Speaker 3

He was, if he wasn't so dumb. Yeah, thankfully criminals are.

Speaker 4

Oh, the last time I arrested him, I said, man, you need to get a new hobby. The last time I arrested him, I said, man, you need to get a new hobby. You suck at this.

Speaker 3

You're the worst drug dealer, either your big Versace bags and stuff you're carrying on that smell like weed.

Speaker 1

I can find you. That escalated quickly.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh, I remember, was you two on the groundhog? Was that you? Yes, was that both of you? On the rabid groundhog? Was that you? Yes, was that both of you?

Speaker 2

all the rabid groundhog? Yes.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh. So I'm training these guys. Well, it's still.

Speaker 2

I think I was with you Assumed rabid. It was rabid, patrick was with you and then I was with Danny, maybe. Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right.

Speaker 3

Or Ashley or somebody like that.

Speaker 2

Well, yeah, ashley, or.

Speaker 3

Ashley or somebody like that. Well, yeah, ashley. So we were, I come out there and we was this. I mean, it was foaming at the mouth, dude.

Speaker 2

And, like I said, 85% of everything we say is 100% true on this podcast.

Speaker 3

I've never seen an animal act like this before, but it was daytime and it was coming at us and it was gnarling at us, zombie groundhog yeah.

Speaker 2

So I'm like I pull out a I'm like we've got to dispatch this thing. You never pass up an opportunity for target practice, so I pull.

Speaker 3

I'm like wait a second, I've got rookies with me, I'm not going to shoot this thing and show how bad of a shot I am.

Speaker 2

We'll let them so you shoot everybody.

Speaker 3

How bad of a shot, shoot, everybody, shoot that thing. It's coming at us. It was coming at us pretty hard.

Speaker 4

Well, it would come up and then go back, but it was inching closer.

Speaker 3

It was working up its nerve to bite you. I think they get on line and fire and miss you, blew gravel in its face and it kind of shook it off and looked at you like still say I hit it, it just first shot two shot patrick, patrick, patrick's call signs are plenty, we got, we got, pat, pat, we got pat ass.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I can't say anything, though, because when we get gary on here, he'll tell you a story about the deer that I won't listen, we buddy that worked for CVE who lived over in Hazard and he's like I've heard you don't need to bring your livestock over to London. I said if they get loose they are gone. We got too many big roads and interstate going through it was tough. So PETA's going to cancel us.

Speaker 2

But we're going to be okay. It wouldn't be the first time that PETA has and that.

Speaker 3

I'm going to let. That's another story for me and my rookie stuff, but I was reported on one time on a dragon incident, so it's crazy Some crazy stuff Back in the day, when you used to get raccooned and possumed. Yeah, people were rough on rookies all the time. I mean, y'all never had to paint a building, y'all never had to do anything. I don't think, oh yeah.

Speaker 2

We redid the whole process.

Speaker 3

We did paint and then we had to do drywall?

Speaker 4

Y'all are kidding. We're not who they need to call for drywall.

Speaker 3

No, we're not good at it so back when we went to the academy, if there was a break like Christmas or Thanksgiving, the police department wouldn't put you on the road, they would make you do stuff around the police department.

Speaker 2

Chief manual labor. Sometimes they would put you on the road. I remember it was me, you and Bert. We were in Chief's car.

Speaker 3

Y'all get sat on the corner.

Speaker 4

This is the craziest thing we had to go up to get uniforms. Yeah, we rode with him to get uniforms in Lexington.

Speaker 2

So we get a, they get a Signal, 9 call. Well, chief was so worried about I don't blame him.

Speaker 3

Look at you too well, true, burt.

Speaker 2

Maybe I took him I don't know lawsuit or you know, just whatever it was that he was so afraid of that and that's. We were in the academy. I mean we were. You're wanting police, yes, but I mean so I don't know he didn't want us to ride with him running signal.

Speaker 3

I don't blame you. I've not heard anything bad yet.

Speaker 2

Right on the side of the highway. He's just like all right get out, we're standing on the side of 192.

Speaker 4

We weren't released, but he turned us into hitchhikers, that's class.

Speaker 2

That's coming right. I was like we just get fired, Did you?

Speaker 3

have to get an Uber back, or was this before Ubers? I?

Speaker 2

was like I'm not surprised we got fired, but I didn't expect it to happen this fast.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2

It happens.

Speaker 3

You know it happens. I think back to my. Maybe the greatest policing that we ever had was the COVID years and I don't know if I've said that before. We, when the streets were empty and you've played enough cornhole and listened to enough podcasts and watched enough TV or whatever, get out and patrol. We had just got Taser recertified, yes, just had got him back, yes, and somehow there was a lapse. Something happened. We get him back the day. We get him back. We was a lapse, something happened. We get them back the day. We get them back. We get a call. It's me and Pat and was everybody on the shift and Joey. Joey was with us, joey. And we go in to a store and A cell phone store like one of them cheap cell phone stores the guy had he was Barricaded, barricaded himself in. He was on the special K or something like that. He was high and barricaded himself in and we're masked up. I mean eyes, everything, terrible. It was the horrible. That was the worst thing about it. Couldn't see nothing because your glasses were fogged.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we was wearing all the Couldn't breathe, all the PPE I can't remember what it's called now. So we're in there. He's back in the back room in the bathroom and I'm like we got to go get him and I start hearing more people come. So I'm like we got to go now we're trying to communicate with all this stuff on. Well, pat and Joey had their backers still in. They were grounded, yeah, in those masks. At the time those masks were hard to come by.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the N95s, yeah, the 95s were really hard to get to.

Speaker 2

Yeah most of us just wore the Gators.

Speaker 3

We just didn't want to spit in the floor. I didn't have one.

Speaker 4

I didn't have the Gator.

Speaker 3

So it was just After we rushed the hallway we actually got. We had to tase the guy.

Speaker 4

We get him back out resting, which that was the day we got them back. Yeah, and what was funny is, we sat through the class and I said I ain't ever tasted nobody yet yeah.

Speaker 1

Like I always would forget about my taste and you got Anytime something happened?

Speaker 3

Yeah, nothing on my belt ever registers, I just go hands up so they bust through and it was a narrow place and I'm like somebody was lethal, somebody was.

Speaker 4

He was non-lethal and it just so happened. He didn't really. He just barricaded, popped, he was back in the bathroom and we got back and he was crazy yeah he was crazy looking.

Resuming Police Duty After Illness

Speaker 2

I know exactly who you're talking about. Yes, you do, I'll specify. Yes, you do.

Speaker 4

In a minute and he was standing over the toilet and there was like a little like a third of a water bottle that had spilled out and like a third of a water bottle that had spilled out and he's like I'm standing in water. You can't tell I'm standing in water by the time he got to that second T in water or said water the second time I popped him and he, like a sack of taters right on the freaking toilet.

Speaker 3

Well, we come back out of there Drowned, yeah. And they were like can you get us a new mask? I'm like I don't think so. We're supposed to like wash them things and recycle them. And they show me there's brown tobacco stains in them. They've just been spitting in their mouths. It was all over, just dribbling down their chest. Joey's like.

Speaker 3

I need one too. So me and Joey ended up taking him to the hospital and we had to sit there for like 12 hours or something crazy, because you know it was just insanity and I swore right then I was like I'm not taking another person to jail in COVID. Because, the jails wouldn't take them. It was wild. It was just a wild. It was a crazy time to be the police. It really was. It was a big shift right there.

Speaker 4

It was, I mean Well, because you go from you go, go, go and we're always trying to get into stuff or do whatever, and then it's just like a flip of the switch they don't want you to do nothing yeah, yeah, just absolutely threw anchors out, not just pump the brakes.

Speaker 3

I mean they they's like yes, you're done I know you're done.

Speaker 4

If you can handle it by phone, handle it by phone.

Speaker 2

If not, yeah, limit your deer and night shift, I mean, if you didn't have, I mean, being proactive was really all you had to get through the night. So what we did and I don't know if we ever told anybody about this, but we in our conference room we took the projector, took it in there, we set it up and watched movies in there.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we watched them here at Station, at station two.

Speaker 2

Yeah, our podcast we didn't know about station two, yet station two came along quickly as, as you know, it was just, it was it was an interesting time.

Speaker 3

It was best to be out of sight, out of mind. Patrol be seen, of course, but even with that, if people saw you, you're like, oh gosh, they're going to give us the COVID. And then I finally did you finally blessed us all with it.

Speaker 4

I shut down the police department. Patient zero.

Speaker 3

And it was funny because I'd sit you and Joey down on a standoff, down on a murderoff, down in yes, down in a murder suspect, yeah, and we had a our sheriff, the old sheriff had died, so there's a big, huge funeral thing going on. We were so short-handed. There was deputies down there and I was running the city. Uh, I was like I was like providing, so I was sitting in dispatch trying to, because we were radio silence for them down there, so I would be dispatching our guys on the telephone trying to check on the guys on the scene. And I was like, good grief, well, I'm sitting in there in the most, you know. But it didn't feel bad and I was like okay, and I gave everybody COVID, everybody, the dispatch 28 days later. So Well, you went and got tested, yeah.

Speaker 4

It was on Christmas Eve. Yeah, yes, whatever the reason was, you went and got tested. And then, because I lost my smell.

Speaker 3

I just had a shot. I took the vaccine. I'm one of them. I took the vaccine and I was like. I called the other guys that had got. I said did you all lose your smell with, uh, with the vaccine job? They were like no.

Speaker 2

I was like oh no, they shot you up. I was just a lot.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was a lot of those and so there I am, I'm sick, and and we had a pretty good. Was you sick on this one too?

Speaker 4

no, no, we had a pretty good group on like a. Well, it's like every day we was adding one or two in.

Speaker 2

I didn't get COVID there until right before I left the PD. Wow.

Speaker 4

Well, when he texted us because he said I tested positive, now you all got to go get tested and I was initially the only one that day that had it and I felt fine, I didn't feel nothing, I hadn't noticed that I lost any senses or anything. And then, like as soon as I went and got tested and they came back in and hell, it was like they was coming in and telling me I was dead.

Speaker 3

But you got COVID, yeah, and then they didn't say anything else about what I did. Good luck.

Speaker 1

Yeah see you.

Speaker 4

But then I got home that night and it was like my battery drained I don't know if it was a mental thing or what and then I lost my taste.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was just a weird time, weird. So we come back. We come back from our. You know, it was 10 days off at the time.

Speaker 4

We came back on the 10th day.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we came back the same day, didn't we? Yes, Because the way it worked out, Because we were diagnosed the same day. So fun times when we come back. And I was absolutely. It felt like the flu kind of, but I was just drained.

Speaker 4

That was my thing, like I never at any point felt sick or bad, I just had zero energy. Yeah, not like.

Speaker 3

So what happened on our first day back?

Speaker 4

Well, that first morning it wasn't even daylight yet and we got the domestic at the town. I can't remember where they was at, but townhouses with the second floor. Yeah, joey got there first and was upstairs fighting with the guy in the bedroom and me and you got there. I want to say about the same time I think.

Speaker 3

I stayed downstairs. I'll be honest you might have. I don't think I can make it up the steps.

Speaker 4

Well, I went up the steps.

Speaker 3

Or I just sat outside.

Speaker 4

You guys are good, yeah, well, I swear to you, by the time I got to the top of them steps, I was like if this guy's fighting, he's shot sometimes rank has privilege, and it did on that day and, thank god, joey had it squared away and he was compliant by the time I got to the top of the stairs, because it was it's like I got there and I was like y'all got any walkers, old crutches or anything.

Speaker 3

It was, uh, it was, so we got.

Speaker 4

We cleared that call yeah, it had gotten daylight, and then maybe maybe 30 minutes and it was cold too. It was cold, which wasn't, it was in January. Yeah, uh, and it maybe 30, 30 minutes later. It just had gotten daylight. And then on the other end of town, somebody called in and said I think there's people breaking into cars and we get them calls all the freaking time and it's usually normally bs or if it is something.

Speaker 4

it is something that has already happened and passed and gone and you're just trying to clean up the mess and see if you've got any footage or anything to develop a suspect. And I got there first and you were shortly behind me. Yeah, I was following you and, sure enough, three guys standing right next to this car window busted out everywhere.

Speaker 3

Basically with crowbars in their hand.

Speaker 4

I mean, it was that obvious they were doing it and then admitted straight up yeah, yeah, you caught us, we were pregnant. And that never, has still, yet, never, ever happened to me. It's just the day that I had no desire to do anything and, sure enough, I'm standing there for a brief minute. Before you got there with the witch, I mean, even once you got there, it didn't matter If they wanted to come push us over, like a little sapling.

Speaker 3

We're leaving, we're going to escape right now, okay.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 3

I can't do nothing with you Leave me your names.

Speaker 1

Call me back when you're done. Call me, let me know you made it safe.

Speaker 2

Yeah, somebody else will come hunting for you.

Speaker 3

I remember thinking I can't function. If I had to fight right now, I would seriously have to go with deadly force because there's no way I could have fought with him.

Speaker 4

It took everything I had in me to open my car door and get out of the car.

Speaker 3

Yes, so the whole sickness side of it was not like crushing, it was the after. It was like oh, come back to work.

Speaker 2

The recovery yeah.

Speaker 3

And then coming back to work was like maybe it was that I didn't want to come back to work. I liked those 10 days, but I seriously was drained to work. I'd like those 10 days, but I seriously was drained and and it took a couple couple, two, two, three, four days to get back in like, oh, here we go. So we've, we've done some, we've had some fun, though it's been a me and patrick worked by ourselves, basically, for we had we had people out on maternity leave, we had people in academy academy that were supposed to come to our shift. Our shift was short, oh yeah, and it was just three of us, you know.

Speaker 2

I remember those days because at shift change Patrick would just be like I've answered everything.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I was like Patrick's answered everything, I got two.

Speaker 2

We would come in complaining or something like that Shut up. And he'd be like it's just me out here. I tried.

Speaker 3

I did try.

Speaker 4

Well, and you had all that admin stuff that you claimed you had to do.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I was like I got to order cars, yeah they really want me on these budget meetings.

Speaker 2

He said T-Dot would start off in the same direction as the call and then something would happen.

Speaker 3

I told you guys I'd work everything under the sun except for wreck with injuries. I will not work those. I don't know why.

Speaker 2

I would show up. That never bothered me.

Speaker 4

If I'm going to work a wreck, it might as well be a good one, yeah.

Speaker 3

I'm good. It's not that I couldn't. I ain't wishing no fatalities or anything.

Speaker 4

No, if I'm going to work, a wreck Because you've got to put the same amount of effort into a 45 as you do a 46.

Speaker 3

Oh, I know it's something about getting that dang Deposition, Because I had to go sit on some depositions later out of county. Didn't understand. I was like I skipped a couple I didn't understand. It was like basically a subpoena. I was like, oh, I worked at 46 once the woman was fine.

Speaker 2

I mean, they took her to the hospital, but she was, you know, no complaints, let her out of the hospital. Two weeks later she dies. Don't know if it's related to the wreck or not, but because it was in that window they ruled it back as a 46. Had to go back and do a reconstruction. I mean it was a mess. Those afterthought.

Speaker 3

Reconstructions are tough. I don't know it wasn't that I didn't mind. I didn't mind, it was my flex. Basically I was like, hey, you guys are doing those, I'll work cases, I'll work job lifters, I'll take people to jail. I didn't care, but that was my only like. You popped that collar brass, I popped that collar brass, but that was it. I'd do everything else. I didn't care a bit. So let's hear some Academy stories. I know you guys had some.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we had a few things. I don't know if you remember this or not.

Speaker 4

You've got to jog my memory. Okay, once it gets going, I can get rolling.

Speaker 2

So before we went to the Academy, we all got pool cars and I think we pulled numbers out of our hats. And that's who? Got cars, I mean it was like we had three, and it was like two 09s and an 11 or something.

Speaker 1

I don't know, that's how we got cars. Well, those are fancy.

Speaker 2

But they were supposed to be cleaned out when we got them. I mean, we, you know, went in and detailed them and stuff. But we got up there and we're I think Derek was chief, yeah, derek was chief at that point in time and then we got up there and we've been at the academy a couple of days I think it might be the second week or something and we're going to eat. So, you know, the day's over, we're going out to eat, we're all riding around in my car, in my cruiser, and something keeps rolling around in the floorboard. I remember this, yeah, and they're like what is?

Speaker 1

it and I was like well, I just caught a glimpse of it.

Speaker 2

It rolled up here. It kind of looks like it's round like a battery. Well, it rolls back there and they're like oh, we got it, it was one of them little metal screw lid containers. It had like four grams of man. I said oh my gosh, I was like yeah, we called Eric and he's like no, we called Doug. Oh, was it Doug? Yeah, we called.

Speaker 3

Doug Smart.

Speaker 4

Doug came up and met us at the county line. Really. He's like yeah, I'll take care of that boy. Yeah, I wonder where that went. Who knows how long it had been in there.

Speaker 2

Who knows how long Doug had been outside the county line. Yeah, who knows how long Doug had been outside the county line.

Police Academy Training and Cold Weather

Speaker 3

Yeah, oh yeah, I've got stories on Doug outside, but I'll wait until Doug's back before I tell stories on Doug. Oh yeah, let's see you guys had.

Speaker 2

There was so much that we I mean Our academy.

Speaker 3

my academy was 16 weeks. How long was yours? 23. 23, so you all had to go, yeah.

Speaker 2

And we had Christmas break in between. Did we get off for Thanksgiving too?

Speaker 3

I feel like there was like two weeks that we weren't at the academy that just prolonged our. Yeah, there's a week at Thanksgiving and there's two weeks of Christmas, Something like that, yeah.

Speaker 2

Because we were there when it was.

Speaker 3

That's your painting time. We were there when it was balls cold.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 4

And Patrick painting time. We were there when it was balls cold. Yeah, and patrick loves the cold. Yeah, what happened in the cold? So they have us. We went up to the boones bow range, the long gun range, and it's on the river, the one right on the river, yeah, yeah, and we had to be there at we were there all night.

Speaker 4

No, it was in the morning it was in the morning, but we had to be there. We had to report to the range, at like it was like five in the morning. It was in the morning. We went in the morning, yeah, but we had to be there. We had to report to the range, at like it was like 5 in the morning.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because we was going to be doing that all day long Was y'all like doing shotgun, rifle, pistol range, kind of like three guns up Just shotgun and rifle for that one.

Speaker 4

Yeah, transition which?

Speaker 3

I mean the coldest place on earth, but you don't have the breeze, you don't have the air off of the.

Speaker 2

Oh, you got that.

Speaker 3

It's open. Yeah, I've seen snow blow in there.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, we had too.

Speaker 3

It did while we were there. The indoor range was snow.

Speaker 4

It was cold Loading mags when you can't shoot your thumbs Miserable, but for this day it was just rifle and shotgun. And right there on the river, wind blowing off the river, and that is one thing I'll say. That we got issued whenever we started was like Eight different jackets yes, like PD jackets, and Patrick wore them all that day. Every single one of them had on, like one of them, balaclava things, with them bogging over it because it was cold. So you started sweating. Oh, I think it was.

Speaker 2

It was in the teens, I think. Yeah, I mean it was yeah, and with the wind chill it's probably like six laying standing up, laying prone up, prone up. So you're getting sweaty on top, kind of like slow burpees.

Speaker 4

We were almost doing slow control burpees with a rifle.

Speaker 2

Well, you know how that stationary qual is.

Speaker 3

I know.

Speaker 2

Two standing, two kneeling, two from prone.

Speaker 4

And they were running us through the drills. Luckily we hadn't got to the qual yet and they were running us through the drills and I, just like I noticed after however many we did, like I started my vision was kind of blurring and drawn in and I was like whew, I'm getting lightheaded, and like just up and down and up and down, and I was like God it's. And then one time I went to stand back up and like just up and down and up and down. I was like god it's. And then one time I went to stand back up and I just had to drop back down to a knee because I was about to pass out. I had like eight jackets on and all this like I was I was layered.

Speaker 2

He had layered up so much it wouldn't.

Speaker 1

It had compacted and it wouldn't hold the heat in yeah.

Speaker 4

It was just letting it sweat and we had to wear our vests and all. I mean it was just. And then we walked in. They was like well, let's take a break. And we went into that concrete block building which is almost the same as a nice Yeti cooler.

Speaker 1

No relief.

Speaker 4

They said they had a heater in there.

Speaker 1

but I've yet to see it.

Speaker 4

I think it was two incense candles or something. And, yeah, I took off that bargain and the face shield thing and started pouring the sweat which instantly, like just plummeted my body temperature. So then I got real woozy. I was sitting in a chair and Bert was standing behind me like trying to like help prop me up and he's like man, just lay back and I, like my head was just like dead weight. He flung straight back. Pow, right in the side of his pistol there was a gun belt, so I got a concussion too.

Speaker 3

Did you have to go out on the ambulance?

Speaker 4

They called an ambulance and I had to get in. I can't remember whose truck I got in. It was an F-150 truck. They put me in the back, it was probably.

Speaker 2

Hurt's truck or one of the instructors, I can't remember. No, it was one of us.

Speaker 4

It was one of us, I think't remember. No, it was one of us. It was one of us, I think. Uh, I think it's my roommates, because he was driving his sheriff's F-150 and I can't remember who he drove. I have no idea who else was in there and I was like. I just remember I was like god, I'm going into shock or something here, like extremities, was like completely the guy couldn't see.

Speaker 3

Well, I remember getting a like Derek told us the chief told us like Patrick's in the hospital with like hypothermia yeah, he's froze to death, frostbite, I don't know what all you had.

Speaker 2

And I'll say this and this will kind of set him up for another story if he wants to tell it just on where his mind frame is during serious situations.

Speaker 1

So he's on the ambulance. You know they're getting on the ambulance. What?

Speaker 2

happened the only thing he said. So they issued us like four shirts. You got four shirts in the academy.

Speaker 3

Oh, academy shirts, academy shirts.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I've still got one or two, one for each day yeah, or you had to do laundry, or whatever you know yeah.

Speaker 3

Four days on those five days a week. Well, your PTDT I got you. I know what you're saying.

Speaker 2

PTDT days and then so he's got that on, they've got him down to it and he's just like don't cut my shirt off.

Speaker 4

I don't want an extra laundry day, just not the shirt. He's circling the drain and don't calf me. Yeah, yeah, leave that alone too.

Speaker 3

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2

It's too cold for that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that had never been unsuccessful. Yeah, that never hit that, that had been unsuccessful.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh, I'd still be up there.

Speaker 3

So you've transitioned from. Well, let's go into that. You're out of the cabin. We talked about some COVID stuff. You've moved on to the Sunshine State and you're at the sheriff's office down on the East Coast. I guess you can. They don't care what county you're in or whatever. Whatever, we can leave that up to you if you want to tell where you're at we'll leave it.

Speaker 2

We'll leave it anonymous.

Speaker 3

You never know, some agencies are but he's somewhere on the east coast of florida. And what? What brought you? How did all that? You just hated me that bad and you left me. Yeah, I said, I said that guy.

Speaker 2

All those times of having to answer calls by himself. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 4

He won't work. A wreck, look, I will not work. He's a black cloud. And then he ditches us man.

Speaker 3

I probably did get you all in. It followed me. I was a magnet for just crazy, crazy stuff and I apologize.

Speaker 2

It was fun. I mean, we had fun.

Speaker 3

But it was something and it shows I didn't care to get into things.

Speaker 4

Oh, no Like let's do this. I don't think there was ever a question on that.

Speaker 3

It's like what have I done? So you moved down and working down there. You've been down there a couple years now.

Wild Encounters With Gators and Bears

Speaker 4

Coming up on three, between two and a half and three. Tell us something fun that's happened to you down there. Well, I know, right in training I was still on FTO. I was about halfway through my FTO and we got a call of a gator next to some apartment complex. Well, it is Florida it is. But you know, I don't guess you really prepare for that mentally, spiritually.

Speaker 3

So my father-in-law lives down on the West Coast in Bradenton and I've yet to see a gator down there. I've never seen a gator on that.

Speaker 2

Well, you know what they say, you know how to tell if there's gators in the water, just assume it. You reach down and you touch it. If the water's wet, there's gators.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's a good indication, but I've just not seen one over there in Manatee County. I'm sure they're over there I just stay towards the Listen.

Speaker 4

I'm just rest easy in the fact that any time I see water, there's a gator, there's something in it that I don't want to be that close to.

Speaker 2

Turtle man, he's not.

Speaker 4

Man, florida's crazy, oh yeah. So we roll up because it's right outside of like a big apartment complex or like a condo complex and the neighbors called it in because it was in a big canal, like right at the entrance, and the guy's with us he's like all right, well, let's get out, we've got to go take care of this. Well, you know, being from up here, like stuff like that we kind of handle, like we'll take care of it. You've got a deer been hit by a car or whatever. Yeah, we'll handle that. Yeah, you put it out of its misery. I was like so is it like a shotgun thing or what he said? No, we've got to go catch it. I was like we hell, I've been trained on this.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I said we don't really have gators in.

Speaker 2

Kentucky. No, he says, I am not a man who doesn't know his limitations. And gator is right there. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

And I mean you get out and you see this thing is down in this canal. I mean what I could see of it sticking out of the water, I was like, but it's in a canal.

Speaker 3

Why is that a problem, aren't they? Just because the proximity of where it was, to this residential area. I got you how big how big is this gator?

Speaker 4

so when we, when it was all said and done, it measured out at 8 foot 11 inches yeah, that's bigger than I would want to.

Speaker 2

yeah, yeah, that's eight foot bigger than I would want to.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, that's eight foot bigger than I would want to do I don't think I've. I don't like them.

Speaker 2

I think I could take a baby gator.

Speaker 4

Well they're supposed to be. They're quicker, like they can whip their head around. You guys couldn't take that I could take it.

Speaker 1

You all couldn't take on that groundhog.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but it was that groundhog. You all couldn't take on that groundhog. Yeah, but it was that groundhog.

Speaker 2

He'd been working out. I mean, you saw him, you saw his traps it was the Arnold Schwarzenegger of groundhog.

Speaker 3

It was the one off Caddyshack, it was it.

Speaker 4

He was messing with me. But yeah, so we met this trapper there and he rigs up this little. I mean, after I saw it in action, it was pretty efficient. When he was putting it together I was like that ain't gonna work, like it was like a thin little stick, but it was long and he electrical taped like this tiny rope to it. I was like a little snare, like a yeah kind of I I was like this is dumb, like I don't want to be anywhere near any of this. I want to sit in the truck, yeah. And he gets up and he gets it around his head and it starts doing that death roll and stuff and I'm like, well, good luck, I'll be three miles over here.

Speaker 4

How bad did you? How close were you to quitting and coming back? Well, it depended on how close I had to get to it. And then, once he finally got it, I had to help drag it up out of the canal bank, because it was probably 12 foot below us below the road, and he climbs on the back of it and tapes around its mouth and stuff, but he has me holding the rope. Well, I still have no idea what gators do. I was like so I'm holding this rope that's attached to a gator that's looking at me. Did they charge me or like what happens here?

Speaker 4

Luckily it didn't, and I don't know how fast they are.

Speaker 2

I think they're pretty fast. It took three of us to get it loaded up in the bed of his pickup.

Speaker 4

I got put on the tail end and I was like I think this thing's going to thrash me or whip me. It's.

Speaker 3

Godzilla man. That's something I've never dealt with.

Speaker 4

I've dealt with bears. I just had to catch another one the other day. So you're a pro now no God, no, like Turtle man, this was like a little, probably two or three footer, and it was in these people's front yard and we call fwc florida fish of my life, and he shows up and it was.

Speaker 4

They had a driveway that you know went across a drainage ditch and it had a pipe going under the driveway and he said, like a culvert yeah, and it and it tucked up in under that and and he said I can see he got down and he's face up right to the end of that culvert looking at us Nope.

Speaker 3

I think it latched Too close for me yeah, or breathe fire.

Speaker 4

He said I can see it.

Speaker 3

I'm not sure if they can.

Speaker 4

He said you stand on the other end, I'm going to if it comes out.

Speaker 3

I'm going to blow in its butt Like chicken fighting. We're going to get him riled up. He's going to come right at you Now. I've chased bear. I called a foot chase. I don't think you all were working yet, you probably were dispatching. But the bear that almost got in walmart, yeah uh, it came back towards town and and it was right behind the police department and I get right behind it and it's. You know, I got a little trot going and I'm calling it like I'm in a car chase. I'm like we're on. We're on first street, heading towards the pd. I'll return on Jackson Street. I mean I'm calling this out and I started seeing everybody run out of the PD, like it's on. So then we're getting a foot chase of it and I look at Alan, what was the plan?

Speaker 4

That's what I asked I said well, if we catch it.

Speaker 3

And me and Alan, we both stopped.

Speaker 1

He said well, if we catch it. And me and Alan, we both stopped. He said you're right, what?

Speaker 3

if we catch this Danny keeps running. He treed it. That's good. He treed this bear. And then we called Kentucky Fish Mall off. They you know they stink. They tranquilized it and we hauled it off. But we put it on a gurney and that was the stinkiest thing I've ever seen. But I was like man holding this boar bear or whatever they call them, and I'm like I was chasing you why? I mean, it was probably 200, 300 pounds. I was like you're big, that's crazy. You got teeth and paws and I don't think I could take you. I would try I try.

Speaker 3

I've watched that at the chicken festival back in the day I used to fight. I used to fight them little black bears up there, but I don't think I could have taken it.

Speaker 2

I think you just get the prison mentality. You just lay down and just let it happen, just hope it's over quickly, just take this one.

Speaker 3

What a way to die Gators and bears. I did, but that's part of law enforcement is we deal. I remember dealing with snakes. Snakes were common. I did, but it's we've. That's part of law enforcement is we deal. I remember dealing with like snakes. Snakes were common.

Speaker 3

My biggest fear is probably snakes I can handle. Spiders I can handle Nope, I cannot handle. And they, back at the old Jerry's restaurant that used to be in town, loved that place and as that was closing down, they called and it was like, oh, there's some snakes underneath the jukebox up here, whatever it was. I walked in there and it was copperheads. I said you'd better burn this place to the ground or call somebody else, or I'm going to start shooting Clear this building. Now this is a hazmat scene, but it was that they scared me. Snakes scared me and I remember we used to open and close the gates at the cemetery and I was sitting there. I was halfway. I used to go in close one side, pull up on the other side, take a little siesta in an inclined position. I think we've all done that. Come back out close that gate.

Speaker 3

Well, as I was closing that other gate, a dang snake crawls between my leg. Well, I pull up my baton and I just start wailing, just smacking the ground. And at this time of day people were starting to move and there was somebody across the road and they stopped and looked and I was like don't mind me, I'm just trying to keep the dead in. I can't believe it came out of my mouth. When I said it I was like oh no, I was like it's a snake, it's a snake.

Speaker 3

Oh okay, but it's just, I don't know what happens to me. Sometimes I get so scared. I've been scared a lot.

High-Speed Pursuit and Hostage Rescue

Speaker 4

This job, yeah, have you been shot at lately Not lately, not that I can remember, lately, no. So we had the one right after I got off of training, still didn't really know my way around. We had a bolo for a kidnapping suspect who still had the victims with him. Oh no, and everybody else that worked down there was familiar with the guy. They were all going to stage up at his house, house which was a long way away from where I was and I was kind of zoned up near the interstate. So I start driving around gas stations and motel parking lots out there to look for the car just to see if he pulled in somewhere else instead of going to his house.

Speaker 4

I pull in the first gas station parking lot, circle the lot and I'm coming back out to the highway. Sure enough, right in front of me Passes by and I get on the radio. I'm like you know, I've got this car right here. Tag matches up and everything, same car. And we I can't remember if we had pictures of it put in our CAD, of the car from like our traffic cameras and so the sergeant gets on there and he's like, well, just stay behind it. You know we're getting on the interstate going northbound. He's like, stay behind it. He said we're trying to get to you, but you know we're a while away, don't lose it. Yeah, a while away, don't lose it. Yeah. And he wasn't really. He wasn't driving erratically at that point, but you could tell he was trying to Allude.

Speaker 3

Yeah, he knew you was back there too, yeah 100%.

Speaker 4

He was doing a lot of lane changing and stuff, trying to keep a car or two in between me and him, and luckily traffic wasn't very heavy. So eventually they were just like go ahead and line it up, let's see what happens. Like we're coming, but we just are not close. This won't be a pursuit.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, as soon as I turned my blue lights on that's when he guns it and I think we got up to 100. Fastest I think we got to was about 122, 124-ish, and it was a while before anybody could get caught up to me. I mean they were doing everything they could. I mean they were giving it hell trying to get caught up to us and we had other guys waiting at the next exit in my county to get on and luckily they could get behind me pretty quick. But then as we continue into the next county, we're in the center lane and thank God there was no other cars around at that point. I see some muzzle flashes coming out of the driver window and some rounds skipping off the pavement at my car. I was like hmm, that's weird Shots fired.

Speaker 4

Yeah, something's going on. He's throwing M80s out.

Speaker 3

Sir, your car's ablaze. Yeah, something's not right. It's just cigarettes. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4

So, and he had dark, tinted windows and I knew that there was supposed to be victims still with him, so I couldn't really do anything in the way of returning fire or anything like that. I didn't want to pit him because I mean at those speeds who knows what would have happened, but so I called that out on the radio. Long story short, it turns into an extended pursuit that segues into a standoff at the car. That segues into a hostage race because he pushed one of the women that he'd shot out so we had to go up and get her. After he bailed out and took the other one around the neck, hold the gun to her head and then it turned into a basically a manhunt, hostage rescue and long night that happened.

Speaker 4

I was on night shift, it was still daylight when it started and I left the scene where we finally got. All the vehicles got stopped. I think I got home at like six, 30 or seven the next morning, Jeez. But after it was all said and done, that was the first thing I told my surgeon. I was like cause we're tobacco free agency? I was like I had a dip in the whole time. It's on my body camera. He said I don't give a shit.

Speaker 3

He said did you just see all this. Basic Patrick, I'm worried, I'm fired from tobacco.

Speaker 4

I've just been shot at. Yeah, he said. Did you just see everything that took place? I just wanted to let you know.

Speaker 3

Just, just just.

Speaker 2

Patrick's sitting there taking rounds and he's going. Ah, I got a spit bottle in my hand.

Speaker 3

How do I get the spitter?

Speaker 2

How do I hide this? Oh, my gosh Must be chasing.

Speaker 3

I'm more worried about getting in trouble for you.

Speaker 2

It's the strangest charge we've ever seen on a citation. Somehow the perp got that spit bottle in his car. Yeah, literally.

Speaker 3

Why does this have your DNA?

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, oh he shot at us, because God he shot at us on the interstate, shot at us again once we got off. We kept trying to move in for a pit and he shot a few more times then. Then, after he bailed out of the car, he shot over our heads a few times. Geez, oh yeah, shot in the woods. We, we, shot over our heads a few times. Geez, oh yeah, shot in the woods. Like we got into a big development. Not a very good shooter.

Speaker 4

Was it but it was pitch black I mean, I had my watch on, you know and it lights up and something goes, and that thing lit up and I was like, oh my God, I was like trying to, freaking, throw that thing out in the woods. Oh, that's scary. I've learned my lesson.

Speaker 2

Start calling it out this way. Wait for it.

Speaker 3

It's funny how it's tactical-looking cool watches that shine up like a cigarette lighter.

Speaker 4

Well, when sitting in here you wouldn't even notice that it lights up. But if you're out in the pitch black, I mean oh, I know it's like a beacon, oh, like a cherry on a cigarette Looks like a freaking spotlight.

Speaker 3

Oh it's crazy. It's scary. You think about them things Afterwards. You're like oh this is not the most tactical thing I can do, I mean, there's a laundry list of things that you think about back and be like how did I not die?

Speaker 2

You know?

Speaker 3

Have you got to work any cool hurricanes I have. You can move down there and you've got 50 of them all. Well, I mean which Not on you. You've not had a direct hit where you live, have you?

Speaker 4

We had a direct hit, but the hurricane wasn't bad, but the tornado was bad. Oh, y'all had them on, which I didn't know was a thing. I thought you got either hurricanes or tornadoes.

Speaker 3

You're used to that up here.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's what I said, and I even told my boss, I didn't know, you got both. I thought I left tornadoes back on that one.

Speaker 3

which one was that?

Speaker 4

The last one, the big one, it was Helene, and then I can't remember the next one, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 3

The one that came. It's like the.

Speaker 4

Gulfside got pounded yeah it came in right in Sarasota, yeah, and then it went straight up yeah. I went down there. Did you all have to go assist? Those other agencies we were getting ready to, but we didn't activate because our county got hit.

Speaker 3

Okay, so they didn't activate. Yeah, y'all was on that side. I was getting whipped with tornadoes big tornadoes, like stuff you get out in.

Speaker 1

Kansas or something.

Speaker 3

They was getting wiped out. Yeah, now, helene, you went up, helene went up to the Panhandle.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that one, that's a good, I mean like it's, I like doing that stuff.

Disaster Response and Community Support

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah, I wish I'd like to go down to North Carolina right now. I don't know how they're doing it down there in this. Nothing. It's this cold. You know those mountains are yeah. Well, and we may have to all take a trip and help.

Speaker 4

You can just tell like that's one of the perks of this. I mean it's not the reason, I mean it is, but it isn't. Like I don't do it for the recognition, but I do it because those people are so genuinely glad that you showed up to help them.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and when we went to the floods over here in Eastern Kentucky, I was amazed by the amount of just gratitude. As we're walking around streets that are empty, people just open up windows. You all need anything. Oh, thank you for being here and I'm just like and we I mean that was. I put that down as one of the greatest things that I got to do in my career and even though he was only there like two days, he didn't really even do anything.

Speaker 4

I mean, we were just there to be there, I mean, I think even just being there like the show of support and you're there if they need something. Because a lot of times and I mean I know everybody's good-hearted and everybody wants to help, but a lot of times you get such an influx of resources there that people are kind of tripping over themselves and looking for something to do, because everybody wants to help.

Speaker 3

I thought that we would go there and like be on these big rescue squad type. Honestly, they were like can you keep the looting down for us?

Speaker 2

and I was going to say that's what on our tour over there it was. That's what it ended up being is like at night. They said these guys are dressing up as the red cross yeah and just, and they're stealing everything. Yeah, these people own, he said so if you see somebody out at night, he said that's what you're looking out for. He said make sure the pharmacies and all that are staying. You know people are staying out of it, but that he said if y'all want to answer calls, answer calls.

Speaker 3

So we did a couple Just because of boredom, yeah, and you felt like you helped yeah.

Speaker 4

Well, like even when we went out there because you know we didn't have any kind of CAD system, mapping system, anything they gave us some little TPS years to put in the cars, but it didn't help me.

Speaker 3

Who, it didn't help me because I didn't.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well, I didn't. It still doesn't help. It would have been helpful if I knew the roads that I was on, but I mean even then, so when I could show up to a call and find it, I would help.

Speaker 3

But yeah, I mean it's. It seems like you're all down there. They're set up a little different to help each other. I guess, oh yeah, which I mean different to help each other, like oh yeah, which, I mean they've been put through the ringers, I think they've got it down to a size, yeah, and here.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we get stuff here. We get some nothing, but not like that where it's been.

Speaker 3

It's a lot fewer and far yeah and so getting to you know, getting all the resources together and and and our in kentucky is different, because we, you know, you have major tornadoes like what has that been two or three years ago? You had.

Speaker 2

The one was the one that hit Carnaby Square and the one that hit. East Bernstead Two different ones, but those were years.

Speaker 3

that was like 2001 to 2012, or something like that. That's the only two that I remember that were, but I'm talking about even the Western Kentucky. In December that hit, wiped all that out, I mean, but that we don't have those like Oklahoma, and then we definitely don't have. We may have the hurricanes come up and give us some rain, yeah, but not like what you guys get down there.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean regardless of where it's at, you're never going to have a shortage of people volunteering. No, no, especially in this profession Like everybody's chomping at the bit.

Speaker 3

Absolutely Wanting to go help and do something and a lot of good hard people, and then sometimes you feel like you're just stepping. You're like, well, they're set up over here to cook but nobody was coming to eat because they'd already been fed, so they're basically cooking for the responders that are there. You're like, oh my gosh, you go over there. Some of this stuff and the best food you know, these chefs come in, oh yeah it's amazing, there's some, some of the greatest people in the world that show up to these.

Speaker 4

So when I went to the helene response there was, uh, four or five women that showed up the last day. We were there as we were getting ready to de-mob and go back home, and they showed up coming because we'd been there for eight days seven or eight days and you know they had.

Speaker 4

luckily we had got set up at a pretty good spot that we had like shower trailers and, yeah, you know, bathroom stalls and stuff like that. But then the last day we were there there was four or five women that came I think one woman said she used to live in that area and they'd been hit by a couple hurricanes and she said she was from that area but didn't live there anymore. I mean, none of these women currently lived there and they showed up and just set up in a tent to give us all haircuts.

Speaker 3

Because we'd been there for eight days.

Speaker 4

That's awesome, and just out of the kindness of their heart, they were like, hey, y'all came and helped.

Speaker 2

That's awesome and that's something you wouldn't even think about.

Speaker 3

No, that's the kind of stuff Like who thinks that I need a?

Speaker 4

haircut when you're in the middle of that, yeah, like they just showed up. And they're like, hey, they were all you know. And yeah, they just shut up. And they're like, hey, we want to help, and that just shows every disaster has to have that.

Speaker 3

I mean those necessities and those things that you have, simple stuff like laundry and shower units, toilets, housing security, all that kind of stuff has to, you know, just to provide.

Speaker 4

When we mobilized, when we went over there, we were told, like we had a briefing there, like hey, you know, bring some dude wipes or something, we might not have running water for a few days.

Speaker 3

And so we went prepared for the worst and then, luckily, just the wheels got turning and we had, I mean, and the donations are crazy, yes, and the donations are crazy, yes, like when we went over out eastern Kentucky on the floods, the amount of donated vehicles and police cars.

Speaker 2

Well, did you get to go over there to the high school in Weisberg? And see that so the football field is where they were using to stage all the supplies. I mean it was from end zone to end zone.

Speaker 3

It was just pallets. It was amazing and people come from all over.

Speaker 4

Oregon, were you all staying over there.

Speaker 3

I stayed in Wattsburg at the fire department, but we were setting up shop more over in a little.

Speaker 2

They had us.

Speaker 4

Y'all wasn't like driving back and forth each night. No, no.

Speaker 2

They set us up cots in the, uh, their city council room.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so we we, uh, we, we went upstairs glasgow had that, they, they, they found moonshine, so they worked night shift.

Speaker 2

We, we saw them we didn't, we saw them twice, we didn't get it. I was like oh now, that night we ended up. We ended up staying late and then coming home early that morning rather than sleeping, going in early. So we pulled like a 16, 18-hour shift and then drove home.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what.

Speaker 2

And then on the way home we was driving that.

Speaker 3

At that time I think I just become like the interim chief and I was kind of like they asked for help and I sent and I went. But I remember thinking in the 19 and a half years I've been policing at that point 20 years that's the first time I felt like I made a difference.

Speaker 3

And it's not that we didn't, because every time we got on the road I made a difference in something. And it's not that we didn't, because every time we got on the road, every time we responded to something, we were doing good, we were doing the Lord's work, but something about that changed it. It's like, man, I want to do more of this and I should, and I need to. All of us need to be able to be like I'm retired, I should be able to grab gear and go and help somewhere.

Speaker 1

And I want to.

Speaker 3

And I've got the support. My wife she's like, yeah, I'll go too. So one day, one day I'll just start going. And we did. We flew down to help out in the last hurricane down there and it got wiped out some of the areas that we go to a lot. So we did some work. It's just something about being a team. Also it's the guys that you've policed with for all these years and then you go do something like that and it's like a quick little deployment. You've trained, you've done all this stuff for all this time and then you go and actually feel like you're doing something and you never want something like that to happen.

Speaker 1

No.

Speaker 2

But if it does and you get the opportunity to do it, I highly recommend going and doing it.

Speaker 3

I agree, I agree, anything else, we've probably been forever.

Speaker 2

Yeah, about an hour and five minutes. Hey, that's awesome we're right there at the mark Y'all just gotta jog my memory.

Speaker 4

That's why I was sitting here thinking I know from the academy.

Speaker 2

I mean as much stupid stuff as we did. There was a lot which there's a lot of stories we probably can't or shouldn't tell from the academy too.

Speaker 4

I'm just always like I think you're getting old. Well, I know that, but I mean I swear ever since I've been doing this kind of stuff like I guess it's a blessing more than anything when I go home I can't tell you what I've done that day.

Speaker 2

Now, if somebody, brings it up then I can tell you every detail. That's how it usually works.

Speaker 4

If I just get my memory jogged, that's how it?

Speaker 3

usually works, one of my favorite, just like and I probably told you guys like, write it down or you'll forget it Journal, it do something. Young guys need to do that Because it's the fun stuff that you remember.

Speaker 3

But you forget because we go call to call, to call, and everything just becomes a blur as you get older, as you got family things, as you got different things going on outside of it, and you get no, I don't remember things you know, I remember the bad stuff that you see, but some of the fun stuff is starting to elude me and I that's that's part of doing this podcast is to is to make sure that people's story is out there so that we always have it we.

Speaker 2

I mean, we obviously want our listeners to be able to listen to it, but we're going to forget these things too, and stuff that we don't want to forget.

Speaker 3

So here's what we do. We'll end it tonight and we'll definitely have you back on, because eventually you're going to come back to us or, even better, we go down there.

Speaker 2

I like that idea better. We'll go visit him on home turf, the weather's better.

Speaker 3

Yes, we'll do it in wintertime, yeah, but thank you. Thanks, patrick, for continuing doing a good job down in Florida and be safe. You're always welcome back here. Not that I can do anything about it, but come home more. But we sure love you and we're glad you sat down with us tonight.

Speaker 4

Well, and it's good to get back up here and see everybody and talk to everybody that you know. I went for close to 20 years seeing and talking to every single day. Yeah, it's tough, yeah.

Speaker 3

It's good to be back. Good to have you back. Yeah, yep, all right.

Speaker 2

Catch us next time, see you.

Speaker 3

Yep, all right, catch us next time, see you.

Speaker 1

See you, I see the big shine. I see the big shine.