48. She Changed History 2025 | 3 women changing history today!

In this episode, the hosts share preparations for the Christmas season before delving into the inspiring stories of three remarkable women. 

First is Ms Sanae Takaichi the first female Prime Minister of Japan, known for her multifaceted personality and groundbreaking achievements. 

Next is Alison Westwood from rural Wales, who launched a successful initiative to divert surplus food from landfills, creating community pantries that support thousands of households. 

Lastly, the episode highlights 14-year-old Sheyna Patel from Florida, who designed a hydrogel capable of removing 93% of microplastics from water, potentially revolutionizing marine ecosystems. These stories emphasize that remarkable change can come from individuals of any age and background, driven by a commitment to benefit communities and the environment.

Sources:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/21/who-is-sanae-takaichi-japans-iron-lady-and-first-female-prime-minister

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkj5e73xkmo

https://baobab-bach.org/about-us/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM-2_9mWHTY

https://www.globalsociety.earth/post/young-scientist-s-hydrogel-breakthrough-offers-hope-against-microplastic-pollution

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/everything-you-should-know-about-microplastics

https://youngscientistlab.com/annual-challenge/finalists-mentors-judges/finalists/sheyna-patel-2025-finalist

00:00 Getting Ready for Christmas
00:59 Holiday Preparations and Traditions
02:20 Creative Christmas Hacks
03:53 Inspirational Women of 2025
05:46 Spotlight on San Aka Chi
11:46 Allison Westwood's Impact in Rural Wales
15:21 Alison's Pilot Program: A Clever Strategy
16:07 Community Impact: Affordable Food Initiative
17:48 Scaling Success: From Pilot to Formalized Program
18:30 The Baobab Vision: More Than Just Food
22:32 Shayna Patel: A Young Innovator
24:13 The Hydrogel Breakthrough: Tackling Microplastics
29:34 Future Aspirations: Shayna's Vision
31:19 Conclusion: Empowering Communities and Individuals

Transcript

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Here we are. Are you Christmas ready? I was just wondering if we were going to make reference to seasonal. Uh, cool. Like what time of year? It is amazing. Um, yes. 95. Well, you got your Turkey percent. The Turkey arrived.'cause I told you the dog was pulling the Turkey box around the, the entry hallway after it was discarded. That was, that was fun. Just it was bizarre. You just like spr up and ran at it out of nowhere. Could you smell bizarre? Could. Smell that it was meat. No, I'm kidding. No, not even remotely. But the weird thing is,'cause I wouldn't think it would transfer, but it must really transfer. It was like a box within a box as well. So it was properly sealed. But then Ted, you know, he some primal level. He was like, there's meat here. I need to, I need to investigate from a dead sleep. Sprinting across the house. I say senses. Yeah. So how about you? Are you, are you just about ready?'cause you're, I think you're traveling. Oh no. When do you guys leave? Christmas Eve, which is the worst day to leave, we've decided to make Christmas as hard as we possibly can. So, yes, it's fine. I, it'll be fine. I just, I feel a bit grinchy, which is very unusual for me and. Everything just seems to be a bit of an upheaval, but we're getting there. We've got a few days. Monmouth was nice and it was nice to see it back very nice. Yeah. I got a few little, like stocking from there. Nice. Yeah, so it was okay, and then dropped some Christmas cards off on the dog walk. That was good. So I'm doing all the right things. I like Christmas cards. They make me smile. Oh, there you go. If it, if it's part of you, if it's part of like uplifting you and getting you in the mood for the season, then that's cool. I'm fine. I just thought nobody wants my disease card. Like, nobody wants a card to come through and be like, Ugh. I don't really understand that. I don't do Christmas trollop, but. That's okay. That's fine. Like you do you, I I don't get upset if I don't get Christmas cards. If someone, if I've written to someone and they haven't written to me, that's, I'm not part of that. Oh, you don't do the, the vengeance, cross'em out the address. No, I'm quite chill about it. Yeah. I'll tell you what, we used Christmas cards for this year, which was good. We ran out of gift tags, so what I did was cut out the pictures of old Christmas and pop the whole Oh, cute. Yeah. And that kind of saved up that such a good idea. Oh, you know, and they look quite cute actually. Like, they're clearly not, you can tell they're a Christmas card cutter, but they, you know, they, they. Do the job. I really like it. I think that's a good upcycle, an old Christmas card as well. Exactly. So if it's like an environmental thing, I've given of life and they'll eventually be recycled, so Yeah. Love it. I'm trying that front. Um, so yes, just a little bit more wrapping. I, that's my last like super task is the last little bit of wrap in. Yeah. And then making sure the ovens are clean enough that when Paul is cooking the dinner, it's not smoke owing out. That's how I help. Yeah. Cleaning ovens is like a, there's that service isn't there, like oven, oven, pig. They will come to your house and they will just clean your oven. You just like give them a cup of tea and go see you in a few hours, buddy. And they, they make it like new, I don't know what toxic chemicals are involved, but yeah, I like the, the sound of that. Yeah. You probably don't want the food after, after that. Not the first two or three cooks would be a bit stingy. Bit stingy taste. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just cook spicy stuff. No one will ever know. That's very true. Um, so yeah, would you like to hear, well, not just one story prior. Today you got triple threat of stories. I mean like a selection box of wonderful ladies. Oh, love it. That makes me happy. Yeah. Bring it on. Selection box of women. So yeah, we did this last year, which is basically women of 2025. And just people who you may not have heard in the news who have done amazing things and would like to shine a little light on them. Uh,'cause you can change history at any time. Um, so, and it just mixes it up a little bit I thought as well. Okay. And I've tried to get a good cross section of different. the word? Industries, I guess, and geographical range and, ages. So I've tried, um, brilliant. You know, spread, spread the love wide. Um, but, but it was really hard, I'll be honest, to like. Drill down the list. Like I should have done like a, like a top of the pops know 10. Exactly. There was so many more I could have spoken about. Particularly, one lady on my list was, El Kil Dun, who is the rugby player won the Women's World Cup with the Roses. cool. And, um, she's amazing and inspirational super duper. Who else was there? There was a photographer, who had done a range, Cara Romana, I and she'd done a range of portraits that were like women as dolls so a little bit of an o to women aren't play things, but also like the diversity um, life and history. That was really and yeah, there was just so many. So I've got three feet today. The first one, San aka Chi, who is the now Japanese Prime Minister. She's the first email to hold that title, which is very exciting. And on top of, I know it's very cool. And, um, on top of that Crow, she's 64. Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah, I know. So she's like, ticking at all those boxes. And it also proves you're never too old to make history, which is very exciting that she's actually smashed that boundary at 64. So I really like the story'cause it shows, keeps striving for what you believe in what you want. She also failed to secure this role two times before, so it's also very good. Oh, not. Giving up. Absolutely. I mean, that's the kind of role that you would have to work your way up to, like anyone, but the fact that she went for it and didn't get it and carried on didn't get put off, that is super impressive. I don't think there's a lot of American politicians, for example, who do that. They, if they fail, they're done. Yeah. I don't, I guess I could never be in politics for, without that sole reason. Like, I need external validation It's unhealthy. Um, but she's very interesting character, so she actually cites Margaret Thatcher as an inspiration, which immediately makes you go, uh oh. No, it's not great. But she wants to be, and she's been quoted in, uh, interviews of saying this Japanese very own iron lady. Because of that, as you would expect, her be quite conservative, for example, on immigration. But the other interesting parallel with Thatcher is her humble beginnings. So she was brought up in a part of Japan called Nara, which I've actually been to and it's really Oh, how cool. Stunning and beautiful. They have a deer park there where deer's just rain free. And I made few deer that day. It's really stunning. Oh yeah. Really And actually this sets apart, apart a bit Japanese government because a lot of them, I guess it's like, as in our, Etonian pipeline politics. Yeah. Yeah, so apparently there's something similar in Japan where they all come through a certain pipeline, but, Ani is different. So the other cool thing about her is that she's a rocker. So she played in a rock band. What? Yes. She's a drummer. And she was part of a band. They did really, you know, quite a lot of performances. They were fairly successful. She's into heavy metal bands like Iron Made and Deep Purple, and she still has an electric drum kit at home in many ways. This is the most shocking thing you've said so far, because like, it's like, it's such a juxtaposition, isn't it? Yes, it is like a conservative politician who's, uh, you know, trying to rock out is like, what? But okay. Cool. Alright. Other cool things about her is she likes to scuba dive and she's really into cars. I'm not making it up. It all sounds like I'm making it up, but I'm not genuinely, this is a fascinating, multifaceted individual. Good for her. Oh my God. And her. Car, which was the Toyota, of course, supra, is now on display at the Nara museum. Um, she's also had a background in media, but like I said, earlier, that she has definitely worked her way up. So there's a little quote there in red just about her, uh, rungs of the ladder. To get to the top she ran in her first parliamentary election in 1992 as an independent but lost. She persisted winning a seat a year later and joining the LDP in 1996. Since then, she's been elected as an MP 10 times, losing only once, and built a reputation as one of the parties most outspoken, conservative voices. Yeah, so LDP is liberal Democrat party. But she's on, which I know frown you said she's like Thatcher. Um, but she's very much on the right side of that. So she's very member of that party. Okay. Yeah. Um, she. Is best known as the protege, of the late Prime Minister. She know Abe. And she has worked in his cabinet for a long time. And she's kind of had lots of different roles and all this adds up to her ability to do the job, doesn't it? Despite her being compared to Thatcher quite a lot, particularly on roles like immigration. Her tone has softened a lot in, recent campaigns, and I think that's her listening and responding. For example, she vowed to make babysitters fees. Tax deductible in some park and she proposed corporate tax breaks that provide in-house childcare And if you know Thatcher, you know, Thatcher would never, ever in million years have considered these policies. So, you know, there I just wanna differentiate. I'm not saying this woman's Thatcher, no, she's like rolling with the times by the sound today. Yes. And her own it's fair. Her own society. That's, that's really interesting. It is really, it sounds, and it also. Yes. And it also shows that that Intune piece, which is kind of what you were saying, because Japan does have an aging society, so care and care services and, households and multi-generational, she understands what impacts them, you know, so, yeah. So really, really interesting. And then, yeah, she took office this year, which is fantastic. So that is our first lady of the day. S aka Chi. conservative political scuba diving, rocker with a car hobby. Um, there's a lot going on, but, um, yeah. But also countries, but also she's not interesting. Yes. And for a country as old as Japan, to only now have a female. Yeah. Leader is, is. It's, it's well time and hopefully she's using it to do great things where she can, like putting those, childcare initiatives in place. Absolutely. Love that. Um, so this one is a lot more closer to home. Our second lady of 2025 is Allison Westwood, and I'm bringing you to rural Wales. That's where we're going. So 10 minutes away from us. Yes. I'm gonna take you back in time just to recent history of 2020. In the rural valleys of bridge end, the pandemic has hit, and obviously that is causing huge amounts of anxiety. Huge amounts of isolations communities, are completely shattered. Those on furlough or recently employed, um, you know, is, uh, was it isolation? What was it called when we were lockdown? You are not allowed to get in a car with anyone. Public transport isn't on. And particularly in those really rural places, that is a huge lifeline. In the rolling hills of rural Wales. This really impacted on food security. It was already difficult for people on the poverty line or struggling to get let alone before all these other restrictions by the government. On top of that, there's a pride line? I was really shocked, I guess when I volunteered for a food bank in And, I wasn't prepared the emotion that comes with it, like the amount of people that were Crying their eyes out. And we were there as a, oh look, we're here to help you, But I just didn't aspect of that. It is complex, isn't it? It is, and people often wanna pay their way. They don't want handouts. But this is where Alice and Westwood, a retired physiotherapist. Also a meningitis survivor, saw a gap and it needed more than just a temporary fix. full on Allison, alongside with her husband John, and the sport of reach rural development, realized that the, solution was already sitting in warehouses. There was tons of surplus food. Almost always lightly destined for landfills. And this could be, oh my God, Yeah, like supermarkets, they, if they can't sell it, they bin it Right. Because of law. That is insane. Yeah. That's definitely a thing. Yeah. It's shocking. Literally shocks me. It's not that. Perfectly edible food is getting tossed to waste. Yeah. When people are hungry, that's, yeah. I just can't see how That's okay. I'm gonna hold tight'cause I feel like we're going someplace positive with this. So it's slightly better than it is actually now. You are outrageous is completely valid. So before you used to get best befores on like. Fresh food. So like lettuces, tomato, cucumber, they've done away with that now. Which means that they're not,, supermarkets aren't bound by those best before dates, which means you can basically set, and also it means that there's less food at the house end as well, because the. People quite rightly relied on those dates. So if it's like a day out, you don't wanna give that to your kids. It's that a date. And that would obviously contribute to the right waste. So actually that's a really positive years. I think that was after I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. But you're right. It is insane that, and also it takes so much to grow this food as well. Like, you know, we we're very lucky that a lot of our food is subsidized in this country, but like it. It's so difficult to grow food in the first place. And then we're like, and like it says here, like they're in warehouses just rotting. It's absolutely insane. Oh God, yes. So what Alison did in 2020, she did this very coy thing of launching a pilot, which is a very cool strategy for if you are want into. Make inroads into anything new or if to challenge anything as uh, ways, whether it's at work or whatever, just check the word pilot in there because what that means is that you, you're not asking them to commit completely. You're just asking them just to see if something works. Let's just give it a go. It's not that big a deal. Let's just run a pilot, you know? And actually, I love this, the risk. It's such a good tactic to reduce risk. Um, so she was very shrewd there. She was like, let's just do a pilot and then, yeah, no big thing. Come on, no big thing. Let's just gonna say no to that. Be reasonable. And she had four community venues in the valley, so like I said, rolling Hills Wales, in Brin. And she basically made an offer of all the surplus food from the supermarket. She was bagging that up. And she said, look, for fiber, you get this massive bag of food, right? I think within the bags it was at least 15 items. Okay, so 15 items that could easily get you, I don't know, a family of four for a week, right? 15 different ingredients. That five pounds covered the food, but it also covered, the community center's, heating and lighting, and made it a sustainable business And this is kind of really hanging on that emotional piece that I was talking about earlier, because people don't want handouts, they're embarrassed, they're, um, shock. They're probably at their lowest point. And then, you know, it's really hard sometimes, isn't it, to accept charity. And this is the problem that she was fixing. She was. Encouraging more people to come in a way by asking for five pounds because then you are opening it up again. You are opening it up to the masses and you're helping more people that way. That that makes perfect sense because then she can rightly and truly say this stuff was going to waste, but for five pounds, I can afford to box it all up. And not only are you not just taking a a handout, you're actually supporting your community because that money is also supporting the community center. Yeah. So that's just like everybody wins. Isn't it? And no one's, degraded, no one's demoralized. Kids have food in their bellies. Like, it's just, it's brilliant. Um, and it was such a success, like it was, the response of this was really overwhelming. That by May the next year, so what's that, 5, 6, 7 months later, they'd gone from four to 12 right. Within the valley. Oh yeah. That's a good pilot. Then by September that year, they had actually diverted 45 ton tons, 45 tons of food from landfill. Oh, it's, that's disgusting. A lot. It's such wild. And this is just like in rural Wales? Yeah. One, one place like across the nation. What scale is this wastage happening on? That's, I know,'cause I was thinking what, there's 1.5 million people in Wales, maybe something like that. Like. It's helping that many She's onto a winner, Alison knew for this to last, it needed to kind of be a bit more formalized, you know what I mean? Because you're right, it was a pilot, it was very successful pilot, but now is the time to make it, you know, a little bit more, um, so she. Actually formed the Community Interest which is BBA Back. And, there's, you are thinking, Vicky, why, word? Is that Welsh? You know, it's not Welsh. Um, and there's a little bba. Ah, okay. Why Baab? In Africa, the Baobab tree is the Tree of Life, a meeting place that provides food and water. Oh, allison envisioned her pantries as more than shops. She wanted them to be the baobabs of South Wales. Oh, bow Bs. Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right. I'm just going No, I was thinking like bow running at it. I dunno. Great. Um. So through a partnership, uh, with Link, uh, curu and Welsh government funding, the project evolved. it? Curu? It wasn't about bags of food anymore, it was about cafes, hubs, basically those community places. So places where volunteers could come. More. Support services. So, you know, food is one aspect, but there's so many other parts when you are on the poverty line. And then what she actually managed to do was turn grocery trip into a point of real human I know. Lovely. Um, fast forward to late 2025. We are now at 18 pantries and collaborative services across, across three different Welsh counties. Allison's vision has reached the most unlikely places, including schools, and even a local prison. The impact is staggering. We were shocked at 45 tons of food. We're now at 400 tons of edible food being saved from God. Oh my God. I know. And that means that also 48,000 households supported, which is really lush. Incredible. Yeah. Alison this year was honored with the 2025 EN Environmental Game Changer Award. And that was honored to her by the magazine, women and Home at Women Awards this year, which is how I found her in the first place. Alison's mission isn't over. She's trying to shift her focus towards nutritional resilience, so that means teaching how to cook from scratch, distributing recipes, encouraging gardening, all around fresh fruit and vegetables. Allison's philosophy is simple. When you empower a community to pay their way and support one another, you don't just fill the cupboards, but you rebuild an entire village. Oh, what delightful story. Yeah. Gosh. And that picture of her, at the top is from oh, she looks so happy. Yeah. For me, she's getting It's, a very humble, happy, happy, happy story. And just shows, doesn't it though? Change doesn't mean big, it doesn't mean flashy. It just means change doesn't, but also like the counterbalance of that, that like she, she was an impressive person with an impressive career, but she wasn't ahead of a supermarket. She wasn't politician. Yeah. She was just someone who went, oh, this isn't right. I'm gonna need to do something about this. How cool that just anybody who thinks, nope, not happy with this, can make such a difference. And I mean, she must be a remarkable woman to have achieved what she has. But what an example that, you know, there's no, oh, well I'm just, you know, I'm just me. I don't have anything to do with that. Like, no, just get on with it. Good for her. I reckon she's in nature as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that was our second lady, and then we're whizzing across the pond to the states for our third, A female today who is Shayna Patel. Shayna is 14 years old, and so she is Oh yeah. She's a girl who changed history, that's for sure. And she has done something that is absolutely, mind blowing. So, this 14-year-old girl has de designed something that could save ecosystems and food chains in the ocean. She's from Florida and goes to Orlando Science School, which is a STEM focused, tuition free public charter school. Wow. I've already remembered one of the people I should have said at the top of this, Alice Walton, I think like the 20th rich person in the world, like she is the Walmart s and she, this year has launched a, school teaching, women primarily, like med medicine, basically be doctors and nurses some medical school and,, she free tuition. That is incredible. One amazing thing to do with your billions of pounds, right? Like, I know putting that money to good use and God, I think recent political changes mean that nursing. Tuition is not subsidized or given grants in the same way that it previously has been. Mm-hmm. So there is going to be a real. Shortfall, I think of nurses and she's, maybe this is another one of those cases where she's gone, well, it's not my field, but that's not right and I'm gonna do something about it. And she has the means to do something incredible. Oh my God. Just, why, why are we not all doing that with our billions? So, um, sorry, this does not take away from, uh, Shayna Patel in any, thing, but it's just the, my mind went tuition free and I was like, oh, that was another one. So Shane is at school and she has managed whilst at school to design, a hydrogel, which is capable of removing, get this 93% of microplastics from water. What, what, what, what? You've just saved the world, Sheena. Okay. Cash. So, um. Uh, a hydro gel, which I didn't, I didn't know they existed. But it is a gel and it's soft and flexible. It looks a bit like that slime that kids play with. It's a network of, water that is swollen polymer chains, uh, that ob absorb huge amounts of water, and they're often used in a lot of products. So, for example, nappies and things like that. It's just a, it's a sucker. Oh. Like that stuff. That's in the absorbent layer of, I think an nappi that kind of think that's bulks up when it gets wet. Yes, yes. So microplastics are any fragment of plastic that is between one nanometer and five millimeters wide. So a nanometer is, like the width of your hair. and a millimeter is like five millimeters is like if you had a wedding band. That's The general gist. So anything between those two sizes is known as a microplastic. Some of microplastics are intentionally made that way. Um, so there was, there were huge scandals wasn't there, about there being in face washes and stuff like that. Oh, like the little beads, remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a, that was a scandal, wasn't it? Like, what are we doing with the world? But sometimes it's just larger plastics, that have been eroded and eroded and eroded, and now they're nanoplastics. So, you know, junk in the ocean. That has been eroded there's like two microplastics. They're very common. They're found in water, soil, even the air nowadays, which is absolutely Um, some adults could potentially be consuming between 39,050 2000 microplastic per year. Oh my God. Yeah. And they have been found actually in the walls So it's a huge problem. It's scary. And I guess the food chain is affected if it's in the ocean, then. Mm-hmm. The animals in the ocean are eating that and then that transfers upwards and we sit high on the food chain. We eat kind of everything, so we eat a compounded number of these things. But you're saying you can even just inhale and breathe them in. That's so Yeah. That is really scary. That's a good point. They've been found to make,, soil less fertile. So when you are harvesting, oh, a sort of lesser quality, and they've also been found to speed up the melting of snow and ice Um, yes, it's a bit dark. Actually, I should have maybe jazzed that paragraph up. No, but that you're showing the, the importance of the work because the impact. Oh my God. Yes. So the other thing we need to know about microplastics is that they carry a negative charge. So I want you to think like batteries north and south, polar, that kind of thing. That's the area that we're in. They have a negative charge. What's an hydrogel has a positive charge. So Patel, she, her prototype focused on polyethylene Terra Delight, which is the pet plastics. Um Oh. Mm-hmm. You know those, yeah, I know that, that acronym, yeah. I don't know the name, but that you're like ratchet. Yeah. Um, and so they tend to be the ones that are in plastic bottles, that kind of thing. And she found. In a lab. So in a really contained area that her version of this hydrogel actually had a huge significant removal rate. And it just sucked all the plastics up. It like gobbled them up. And there's a really fascinating YouTube video of her showing it. She's like, whipping up this gel and it grows so quick. It's obviously this is very different using this in a lab than it would be if it was a river or like a really complex chemical environment. But what she has done is prove within her invention that there's a path forward. Like, you know, it's an option. She's also shown that it, they can be removed.'cause I think there was this kind of hands up, uh, well, you know, it's out there now kind of thing. And actually what she's shown is that. Proof is in the pudding. There's an option, and it also showed to me when I was reading this story that ideas can come from anywhere. It doesn't have to be the fancy, yes, it was a lab, but it doesn't have to be the fancy or the Oxfords a bit like we were just saying with Alison, you haven't make an impact at any level that your at. And I'm not being funny. She's 14 and she was right. She found this out like. You know, it doesn't matter who you are or where you're from, you can make inroads and everyone is valid. And I just found that really encouraging. When I was reading her story, I was like, lush. And it also showed me that the future generation, they're doing it. They're out there. Thank God somebody's got, I've got someone's on it, you know? So that was really reassuring as well. And I found this little interview with her and where she was talking about lots of different things and I asked her a couple of really good questions. One was, what is your favorite invention of the last a hundred years and why? And she said, the smartphone, it has revolutionized. Communication, entertainment, work, and even in our health. She said that we've gone from responding to texts to actually, GPS cameras, health tracking. And she was like, the access to information is amazing and what we can do is use that information to learn about our planet and gain a deeper connection. She said a deeper connection to well planet. I know I was so, I was about to say, oh, she has a typical 14-year-old. Then she just like, oh, my phone is amazing. No, she's still bringing a next level of view. She, next level of response there, the connection to our planet. Oh. And then one of the, one of the questions was, and I thought this is a really cute one to first to end on today is what, what do you wanna be doing in 15 years? And I wonder if you could read to answer. In 15 years, I hope to be in a leadership role within a field. I'm passionate about driving innovation, mentoring others, and contributing to meaningful advancements that benefit not only my organization, but society as a whole in stem. Oh, society as a whole. That's what she's aiming for. And good for her, I hope. And I am sure she's gonna it. Let's, but what's makes you feel good? Even if she achieves that and exact the timeline. Timeline she's talking about there, she still won't even be 30 yet. I know she'll be, that's what an absolute go-getter. I know. Shane and Patel,, from Florida, wow. What a cool kid. Very Um, so there are three women today, Shayna, You know, I, I mean, it's like you're never too old. It's never too late. Mm-hmm. You are. Always able from any walk of life to take on even an overwhelming challenge. Yes. And you're never too young. If you have an idea, even as an outsider, you might have thought of something that. Even the really well trained and well invested people who have all the technical, knowledge and equipment haven't thought of, you might just see it a different way, so go for it. Love that. Yeah, so good. Such a good example. And I guess another connection, just reflecting just then is like actually communities, isn't who is actually serve her help a community. You've got Allison, who is literally serving her community And then you've got, Shana at the end who is all about connection, wasn't she, to the world and, you know, the environment and, so actually. Community's quite a big feature there actually. Oh, gorgeous. Didn't think that when I there you go. Cute as that. Quite, quite Christmasy, really, that spirit of, yeah, I think that's all come together. Well, thank you so much for bringing those. Well, thank you. And thank you to yeah, all our listeners for the whole year and thank you for sending me your Spotify wraps and stuff. That was amazing. And yeah, thank you so much for sticking with us and learning with letting us do this little podcast journey that we're It has been wonderful. Thank you so much. you and I a very restful winter holidays and, um, I'm sure we'll be back in happy Happy holidays. Happy holidays.

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