The Public Nuisance Podcast #006 “Pulling Moves” with Ciaran Nolan

Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.

This week we welcome N.I. Actor, Ciaran Nolan to the podcast.

We cover acting, pulling moves, divis, pigeon racing, podcasting, give my head peace, N.I film industry, the modern generation, mobile phones, say nothing, Disney, Westies and much more.

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Transcript

Actor's Journey Without Drama School

Speaker 1 0:00

The Public News Ins, Sean McCann. Welcome to this episode of the Public News Ins podcast from Killin Studios, where you can get all your podcasts recorded and photo shoots and anything along them lines in this studio. Today we have with us Ciarán O'Neill. Cheers for coming in.

Speaker 2 0:23

Thank you, Sean. Thanks for asking How's it Top stuff.

Speaker 1 0:27

Hi mate, how's life?

Speaker 2 0:28

Not too bad, mate, I'm busy enough, thank God.

Speaker 1 0:31

Plugging away.

Speaker 2 0:31

Plugging away trying to get a few quid. I don't know. I think it's a bit of a rest of us coming off of.

Speaker 1 0:35

Christmas you were saying.

Speaker 2 0:38

earlier you texted me saying you were doing the rehearsal for get my headpiece so I've been with Emmons now for a couple of years for the Holden the Wall gang, so they're doing just a wee Christmas special this year. They usually have a couple of episodes out, but this year it's just a Christmas special. Is that in the upper house? No, the stage show goes into the upper house. They've done that every year for about coming close to like 30 years of doing that I know it's still the same humor.

Speaker 2 1:04

See, before I went in with him and you know yourself and I like I've told him this, so it's all right. I wasn't really watching much of it, do you know what I mean? And you sort of forget, if you're not watching something, that it's there. But see, when I'm back into them and I did this, the Christmas episodes I did for them first, and then they asked me to do the stage show and I was like what the fuck right, do you do a stage show? And they were like aye, and I was like right, okay, and I was going, fuck me, I couldn't see how yeah how it worked.

Speaker 2 1:30

Jesus Christ, like you're in the the wee theatres that you would take normal shows to, that wouldn't have a big following and you're getting 100, 200 they're waiting behind Arthur for photos and all.

Speaker 1 1:43

Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 1:43

they've got a cracking wee following. I think it's more in a different generation. It's not like the younger generation of lads, don't they? Obviously, because it's political, you know what I mean. You sort of have to have been there for that to get their track do you know what I mean, but either they've still a great wee following and they're all sound.

Speaker 1 2:00

I know it's brilliant, like obviously you say a lot of younger people wouldn't be interested because of their political sayings or maybe the humour. I just don't get the humour because they're not following politics as much as you do get young ones, but it's more of the generation just before us do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 2:17

that's what it predominantly would be. And then there's a filter in of ours and then a couple of wee young ones, but they do love it like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 2:24

Why not, like we book the?

Speaker 2 2:25

Dairier every week, every year, for two nights into the forum and it's we love it, like we love it as well, because they love it and we love it and Dairie's.

Speaker 1 2:35

Fine, that's it.

Speaker 2 2:36

You know what you're like when you're going out fainting and everybody's up for you and you'll find an extra wee, not that we need to fuck but all right but it does. It was there's. No, there's no buzz like a live audience like this.

Speaker 1 2:48

You know yourself how do you, how do you come across that then? How do you like what?

Speaker 2 2:51

are you? How did I get in there? How do you?

Speaker 1 2:53

get in there. Obviously you were in, like you're in stuff, all right, well, like I'm a shade of football right.

Speaker 2 2:59

So that's where it starts, basically because if I had been good at football I don't think I'd have went and I love football still this day but I was shite like. I really was shite right, unfortunately. Like I played 5-8, no, but I never want to play like for well, I played for St James's or anything like it wasn't even good enough for that level. Do you know what I mean shite? So I had to do something with the weekends and I did want to do acting like I was always messed about watching films and no rigging, was doing films in the house and pretending to be like a fucker and was obsessed with Jim Carrey and all yeah, no, pretend to do stuff like that. And then my ma was all to me you should do something with.

Speaker 2 3:29

When I was young and she's seen an audition for Peter Pan in the opera house. It was advertised in the only town news. They're holding open auditions. It's just her and company and I went down and auditioned on that day that the cast five of us and I was like happy days. And then after that I went into school and we were doing school plays and then I went to the arts theatre. And then I got an agent. And once you got an agent as an agent, you think when you're a kid and you get an agent, you think this is it, I want to be De Niro, that's me, do you know what? And then I did Custers, the wee kids TV show we won at BAFTA. So I was like this is easy, this is fucking easy. And then I got Puller Moves and then I got man About Dog and then I got Nothing For About Eight Years.

Speaker 1 4:14

I don't know who the fuck's like. Who comes in and says right, exactly, I don't know.

Speaker 2 4:19

You think back back in that time and I go, I don't know, was I too mad? Because I was a bit mad when I was young. Do you know what? I mean, I think back to what I made of being like on them sets and you won't fuck one the way that only are, and you're only a team and you never stop talking and I was a million questions and all that, but I was licked.

Speaker 1 4:35

You know, I always felt licked, but I, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, you do get it because Tom McKenna. I was asked Tom McKenna a question, like when I was with him. He obviously got my the Calty. He got my Calty and I says what happened. He's like he has to go to the acting school and you have to pay like 12 grand or something or you have to pay.

Speaker 2 5:00

I was mad at all, I didn't really care. I was mad at this man. I didn't want to go to acting school.

Speaker 1 5:03

But I still thought I'll just use that as a reference to get an hour post somewhere else. And I never did. He always wanted to go back in there.

Speaker 2 5:11

I was with the right people to tell me go to drama school, but I wasn't good at school. I could have been good at school, but I didn't put the effort in do you know what I mean. So, with the acting people were saying to me Ciarán, go to drama school, go to drama school.

Speaker 2 5:24

And then, which was probably the worst but best thing that ever happened to me when I was 17, I got a pile of moves yeah and that was the age when I should have started been going the audition for drama school yeah, you could have like pin lazed that, like pin lazed, like jumped on that.

Speaker 1 5:37

Use that opportunity to progress.

Speaker 2 5:40

Then after that I was going well, I'm working, I don't fucking need drama school. But that was wrong. I did need drama school and now I think I always say to younger actors now I don't know if you're working, great, but if you, if you can get to go to drama school, go, because the people that I spoke to when they come back, they're here and you're going. I know loads of people over there do you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 6:00

Circles, you mean like you're not forced, but you have a curriculum of reading plays, of learning different stuff, of learning different methods of you know people come back and tell me about the whatever method of acting and I'm looking at them going aye, fucking sick there's so much involved, people fighting and just acting people are comfortable running about with their mates, people to be around all the time and having to laugh and acting the way they get on there now, that's it.

Speaker 1 6:26

But getting in front of people who know what acting is and the smallest wee adjustments and you can't get it, the wee nuances of it, well, people freeze, like in front.

Speaker 2 6:33

I've seen it. Like you know, people do freeze on a stage and in front of a camera. You know you'll see exactly like you done when he says action and they'll say it and they'll go and they can't do anything that's the craft to it, I know that's it.

Speaker 1 6:47

It's being relaxed in that environment. That's it, I think I don't know with me.

Speaker 2 6:51

I was sort of naively confident, do you? Know what I mean by that, I just sort of fuck it just weigh in here and see what happens because it's probably like what's the worst? That could happen. That was it, and I still sort of have that, not a high expectation yourself.

Speaker 1 7:07

Not expecting. I was expecting much of you.

Speaker 2 7:08

Yeah, I sort of still have that attitude where I just go. Well, the worst thing to say is no, I know, I know, that's it.

Speaker 1 7:15

I like that attitude. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 7:16

you just sort of get on with it, but it still annoys.

Speaker 1 7:20

I sure would anyway. Honestly, you know what I mean. You want to be in a ring, fuck him exactly.

Speaker 2 7:24

Do you know what I mean? But that was it, and then I just kept on going and I've been looking, paul Mews was unreal.

Speaker 1 7:30

I don't know. One person like I seen you. I remember years ago put a wee push up saying about like you're raising. It didn't go on aye. I'd run about in Turf Lodge. A lot of it was filmed in Turf Lodge, loads of it. So I was always hanging around the scenes loads and loads of times. Whenever I came out, we were all buzzing to watch it because it was in Turf Lodge. It was all around.

Speaker 1 7:58

Beach, mood Davis, and we were over West Belfast, it was near enough the first time you had seen all this in your area.

Speaker 2 8:03

It definitely was, I think, like somebody I'll put up on when they listen to this. No, no, I was filming and there was stuff filmed in Belfast. It wasn't out there. Post the ceasefire and all that there.

Speaker 2 8:12

But it felt like it was the first time like a big, proper film crew had went on the back of a when I did the taxi scene know where your mum went to slap me in the face and we were in the old Ford S-Court so they were all mad, fat down there it was cracking, everybody was running over looking at the car and then these wee kids. I'll never forget them fucking. Probably still down the road, but they bounced on the back of the loader you know where the cameras were and they're running around.

Speaker 1 8:43

Divas fucking getting the cheese that's probably why I can't do much films here. Fucking kids fucks you in the Divas. The cameras are lifted and gone that's it.

Speaker 2 8:50

Do you know what I mean? Straight in, but here see filming down there and even up in Turf Lodge, like we fucking had his van flying around Gerard E Quinn or Gerard Jordan who played played Hooker. Hooker we nicked the Pamela, the make up girl and we were filming down. Do you know where the Black Mountain Hack is? Yeah, we had a unit base, basically facing there where they have student places are now where that used to be a car park.

Speaker 2 9:16

That was our base and or, sorry, it was Liz. It was Liz Boston's convertible Volkswagen and me and Gerardy were sitting there and Gerardy was like what do you need to take off for this bit? And I couldn't drive and I was like, can't do anything, liz is alright. Liz is alright, don't be worried about that. We were like Liz, we're going to take your car for two minutes because we were dressed like it wasn't out yet, but we were just dressed like two rogues and everybody's looking going fuck.

Speaker 2 9:46

Same type of dirty flying around practicing the character it was a gag like. So we had the time of our lives doing that, because you were in the west and you were getting picked off from the door and then you were going home every night and getting out and having a crack and you were loaded do, loaded, do you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 10:01

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Speaker 2 10:59

a favourite episode. It's been years since I watched it, but I always loved. I always loved the taxi episode yeah when you because that was Sorter Cusack was in that season.

Speaker 1 11:07

Was it an escort, or was it a Cavalier or something?

Speaker 2 11:10

was it a Sierra?

Celebrity Recognition and Friendships

Speaker 1 11:11

a Sierra. It was a Sierra.

Speaker 2 11:12

Now I'm not even in the cars, but I always remember because people about that, and the best thing about pulling moves now is that, unless you used to sort of, I was never good when it came out, no, when I don't know what you were like when people started to know you yeah, do you know what I mean? And you're like, fuck me. Everybody's saying hello to me now and you get a bit scundered and Geordie Geordie was really good with that and when I was out with him because they're giving you a compliment- they're saying well done alright, and it never no click.

Speaker 2 11:40

That that's people are just complimenting you, just be fucking nice back it's simple to do so I sort of struggled like that when I was younger. But now that I'm older and you're dead on and you see, they see kids coming up to me and going Harry, you're a shame. My dad got me to watch that Paul Amu and you're, it fucking lasted the test of time. 20 years later, people are still watching it.

Speaker 1 11:59

I know, I know I watched it on YouTube. Well, it was a couple of years ago, but it was. I remember watching it a couple of years ago, probably about 2-3 years ago. I watched it on YouTube. Every episode was on YouTube, but this season I don't know if it still is but I was like fuck me, that's a gig, that's proper funny good wrote it.

Speaker 2 12:14

Yeah, I was with Pierce last week in Madden's bar.

Speaker 1 12:17

He's more stories than Walt Disney he does alright, but he's a brilliant story, he's good company, he knows everyone that's the other thing.

Speaker 2 12:35

See, when I worked with Pierce and his brother, and then after that, when man About Dog came out, there was people. I worked with Pierce and his brother, cabin I'd be close enough with Cabin and all. And then after that, when Poole and Moose come out and man About Dog come out, there was people in saying to me are you one of the Elliot's? And I was like no, and all them Elliot's are, so they all look the same.

Speaker 1 12:54

But you know an.

Speaker 2 12:55

Elliot. When you see one. Eamon told me once about his Sean being on a lift in Australia and somebody turned around to him and went you an Elliot, and Sean was like what he's like you wanna Elliot from West Belfast and he's like aye he's like blah blah, blah and he knew you as Eamon or whatever, but so people would have thought I was an Elliot and I was going. Not that they're the Elliot's, are the Paddy.

Speaker 1 13:16

Pierce Rodd? Did he Pierce Rodd? Yeah, paddy, paddy.

Speaker 2 13:19

Paddy's a legend. My diary is his pigeons with Paddy.

Speaker 1 13:22

Everybody knows him so they'd be good friends. Paddy's mad. I would have a pint with Paddy all the time in the rack. I used to. I hadn't drank in the rack, in a way but, I, used to have a pint with him in the.

Speaker 2 13:37

I'd say that, but he's funny. He's a funny man, he really is, but they're good people.

Speaker 1 13:41

I know 100% they're good people. I said to Pierce last week about coming on here.

Speaker 2 13:45

I said I'll get him on. You see, he did it for her own and I think that's the first one he ever done.

Speaker 1 13:50

I told him I seen him in weights a couple of months ago and he says what's a crack round podcast if you? I said, well, do you?

Speaker 2 13:57

want to do an imposter for a few quid and that he says well, fuck it. Give me he's living extra.

Speaker 1 14:01

Eh yeah, he's sussing the game out. He says to me it'll be a couple of quid. If you get sponsors and you get the patrons and you get the views, you can make yourself a few quid. I mean, they do the live shows. You would make a couple of quid in that. They never give me a fuck. Are you a doctor? Are you a commentator? He says aye, I mean no, they don't give you money. You hear?

Speaker 2 14:26

it. I'm saying, if you, host it.

Speaker 1 14:28

If you host it and you be the host and you can get sponsors and get views and put the work in it, you'll makes me nifty. He's ready to blow the door.

Speaker 2 14:39

He's probably sitting there.

Speaker 1 14:41

They were probably waiting on him going. Right, that's the episode opening. But he's probably going where the fuck's my money Found it? Oh fucking brilliant, oh, fucking brilliant. So I, that was it, and he just went. I have an owner in the Cali Cellars and he says well, see you around you know everyone.

Speaker 2 15:04

You can't get a paint me and crap. He knows everyone, everybody. Everybody knows one of them at least, like oh I definitely like.

Speaker 1 15:07

I mean neither manny way through, like through my dad. Maybe they had a heart. My dad rise to go hunting my dad. We had farts and dogs and pigeons and so they're the same sure patty's backyard mean. Sure, paddy's backyard up in Dunfors I can tell you, I know it's crazy Pigeons and ferrets and rabbits everywhere. And then his cabin, the dogs he's living beside, they're all in there.

Speaker 2 15:28

So did you ever see? When you're around people, they look after animals. I know if you went to a pigeon you'd be all the cabin's like BAM, I don't know if I should tell this story. We did Paula. I forgot it was 20 years ago. We did Paula Moves Right.

Speaker 1 15:44

We'll see your daughter at the hall.

Pigeons and Acting Opportunities

Speaker 2 15:46

No, it's not me, I'm a good, lucky, but no. So we went down to the market To use Billy Clinton that's what you call it Billy Clinton's pigeon shed, right, big cracking pigeon sheds he had in the market and I think they're still there. But so Paddy had pigeon shades he had in the market and I think they're still there. But, um, so patty had arranged that, I think, yeah, with billy, because he knew all the pigeon man, so at the party was meant to bring down a couple of little pigeons for them to use in this scene, right. And when they got there and these pigeons are flapping around in this box, right and uh, the props guy who was called paul I always remember him, lovely big fella and he came over. I wasn't there for this conversation, but obviously he went over to Paddy and he went Paddy ain't pigeons alive it was either Paddy or Billy, so I don't know who it was.

Speaker 2 16:31

So that's the best way to say it. It was either Paddy or Billy and he went over and says to him ain pigeons alive. We're like aye, aye, so fucking, I had to bring the pigeons down so you just wouldn't have read the episode. No, I'm not reading no episode. I need to read it, for fuck, I'm not on it. You know what I mean? Blah, blah, blah. I must say the pigeons are meant to be dead. They're going to roll off the roof, is that right?

Speaker 1 16:50

no, fucking problem, bang bang bang, I'm a green caps man sitting there going no fucking hair, no Telson safety.

Speaker 2 16:59

you know, cruelty to the young is all out there Ah don't worry about it, it's on there, fucking useless.

Speaker 1 17:03

I used to fly, fucking over rolling down some fucking roof. Ah, that's my. That's really all I are.

Speaker 2 17:07

They're fucking my dad's the same just bang, just knock a pigeon, they'll call him just bump.

Speaker 1 17:22

I'm not fucking tight-stomied like shed and he's like. He's done it with me too, like, and he had him in the pigeons. He gave my child a wee small chicky or a denny when I got it and he was holding it and he just went like bang, fucking my dad. For fucks sake, that's not going to last a crap. He sent me a video with me. Fucks sake, his child doesn't know what he's at.

Speaker 2 17:33

Terrified I'm terrified.

Speaker 1 17:34

I'll go back in the round that he fucking does like, but they're just a different breed.

Speaker 2 17:39

They're a different breed.

Speaker 1 17:40

And now, you wouldn't even get anyone raising pigeons. Now young ones coming through.

Speaker 2 17:44

It's rar now, isn't it?

Speaker 1 17:45

it's definitely down off it was everywhere when we were younger, everywhere.

Speaker 2 17:49

Do you remember the pigeon club?

Speaker 1 17:51

in the street.

Speaker 2 17:53

I used to drink at the pigeon club when I was younger.

Speaker 1 17:55

But you'd wonder, on a Friday night my dad packed up busy.

Speaker 2 17:59

The club was open and all the pigeons were fucking everywhere.

Speaker 1 18:01

There's only one, that in Twinbrook. And see up in Twinbrook it's not even, it's just a port-a-cabin. So you go up register, it's a wee small, it's not even a bar. You go up and you go up and it's like you go in, bring your ring numbers your way again so it's damn, it's damn, it's damn breathing because everyone, my dad's pigeon. He can't walk 100 metres through a coffin as long as people think he has asthma.

Speaker 2 18:25

Bad, bad asthma but he's never smoked it down his life just bad pigeon and now he can't have him.

Speaker 1 18:31

So he built a pigeon shed in Rob Bramwell's front garden. I swear to God. Now he has the pigeons and fucking Rob's on the swale and he's saying I won't feed them pigeons. I said I'm not going to feed them pigeons, you need to do it. And they're fucking arguing back and forward over who's feeding the pigeons. But it's a damn breed like Daphne.

Speaker 2 18:49

Daphne is, but he always.

Speaker 1 18:50

He always wanted me to get to keep over when he was away, like to say I'd have looked after him. I would have been the only one who knew how to do it. Out of all of us there was obviously three other sons of me, but I was the only one who knew how to do it. I'd have been hunting all the most out of us and I I'd have fed them and called them in and all that kind of, but it's just something I had no interest in see they're calling them in.

Speaker 2 19:15

I used to think.

Speaker 1 19:16

They say whistle.

Speaker 2 19:17

All that there.

Speaker 1 19:18

Whistle, whistle whistle. Saturday morning I'm in bed. My dad's out the back Pigeon your head's still, I'm in bed. I'm in bed. I'm in bed Between him. I'm out Coming in the room At four in the morning.

Speaker 2 19:29

My hoover Underneath the bed. I'm in bed. Pits black. I'm out of sleep.

Speaker 1 19:34

I hear a hoover Going to four in the morning.

Speaker 2 19:36

Was your back out with a slipper as well?

Speaker 1 19:37

Oh, fucks sake a slipper was a football boot. You thought it would be a dark pair. Fucks sake, big football boot waxed with the heather. Beat the fuck out of you.

Speaker 2 19:46

That must have been a Westy bag straight, the old head of it.

Speaker 1 19:48

That was an old straight and I used to bowl over in my granny's house across the street. She used to beat me with the old boot.

Speaker 2 19:53

You'd have got to see it you didn't get hit for nothing.

Speaker 1 19:56

That out Ch. I'll get you back over to Gribberdam, slap where you want, where to go. And here's I was going to say about, because your man, see, your man, Hooker, what did you say, Jordan?

Speaker 2 20:08

Jordan, he was really good. He was in that there at there. Saintham as well. He got a part in it he had. I think he was called Frankie or something, I don't know he played. He's a good Saintham accent.

Speaker 1 20:16

Did you ever go for a hang in it? Did you ever go for an audition or anything For?

Speaker 2 20:19

Shane Affen. Yeah, they didn't even ask me to Is there auditions or what?

Speaker 1 20:22

Does someone have a script out and have some on their mind?

Speaker 2 20:25

There is. There was. Everybody in the world got seen for it and I was like I'm sitting there waiting, going. Oh, shut up for me. Why are they?

Speaker 1 20:32

Because there's been loads of wee stuff coming up.

Speaker 2 20:35

But there was loads. I was expecting to see.

Speaker 1 20:36

They've seen a pile of like blue lights, blue lights. Everyone was in blue lights.

Speaker 2 20:39

I went down fuck, that was normal. I went down to get seen for an hour and they did a COVID test on me and it tested positive.

Speaker 1 20:46

No way sorry, god, that's weird, isn't it?

Speaker 2 20:48

but I think the main bulk of it was all done anyway, like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but here that's the way it goes. I know see years ago out doing a load of theatre. It was the year that there was a lot of stuff being done about the Titanic and I had to knock back a TV series and it wasn't like big parts, but it was a couple of. It was good earners you know what? I mean, it was TV, a wee film about the Titanic, and then that film 71.

Speaker 2 21:12

Yeah, that's right, and I got after a couple of days on that over in Liverpool and they were playing really well and I was in the lyric doing this seriously you couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 21:19

You couldn't do it because you've already agreed and you've already started the lyric, if it had been before the lyric and they asked you give them time and maybe get a replacement sometimes you can phone the theatre company and they'll go no problem.

Speaker 2 21:29

We understand the film's film going. Good luck, we'll be able to replace the.

Speaker 1 21:36

It's like near enough getting. It seems like when they come here they're near enough used a lot of the same actors, don't they like? If you look at Blue Lights, you'll have had a couple of people from Blue Lights that are in that was in.

Speaker 2 21:48

Yeah, well, they've got like.

Speaker 1 21:50

But there's established like they're like some Marty yeah, marty McCann, but Marty does the, he does the theatre stuff too, doesn't he? Not really as much now, oh no, he doesn't. No, he doesn't.

Speaker 2 22:00

I haven't heard of Marty doing theatre, but he doesn't need to do you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 22:03

He doesn't need to, because Marty has established himself as a face on TV. So that's what I was going to say to you. If you do get your foot in the door, it's like you may establish yourself and one day they'll use.

Speaker 2 22:16

That's always the dream like, but you still want it. No, but like, I'm sort of happy with life do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 22:23

don't get me wrong, like Jesus Christ if somebody rings me in the morning and an opportunity comes up, you'll grab it with both hands.

Speaker 2 22:28

But you know, I think, when you're younger you're more where is it?

Speaker 1 22:32

where is it, you know?

Speaker 2 22:33

you've, you've kids and life and everything that goes on as as long as everything's alright. You're just having this. That's all you want. Do you know what I?

Speaker 1 22:39

mean because there's an order. I've seen a thing. They were there. I read it saying they're going to make a film about the, a thriller about the Northern Bank. Did you see it? No, they're going to make a new thriller on that. It's your mum and a couple of scouts. Fella the wee small Stephen Graham him, he's in it, really. He's playing it. He's playing my. He's acting, definitely, and someone, norton something. I read it the other day. I was reading it, um, just popped up on the telegraph, fuck.

Speaker 2 23:09

So I'll be like I'll be a big one of big ones as well. 100 percent it's coming up. I don't even know who done it it's 20 years.

Speaker 1 23:17

I know, you know ZDA, it was mad dog I don't know.

Speaker 2 23:23

I have no idea who done it.

Speaker 1 23:24

I'm not sure but I think it's coming up 20 years 20 years 2006, wasn't it 2005, I think they started filming in January.

Speaker 2 23:37

I read it the other day.

Speaker 1 23:39

If they get it right, it's the same as that saying nothing. I know it's controversial and all suppose like they had to get that right because it was told from the people that were involved.

Speaker 2 23:48

The tapes, yeah but they did because they have tapes only a certain amount of people have heard of. Isn't that right?

Speaker 1 23:56

yeah, because they got them released from Boston College, because they because they passed away because, but then they asked for it. Both Fates and Dark have passed on, yeah, so the thing happens.

Speaker 2 24:05

That's as you learn in the series. They'll be released after whoever's died. I mean who?

Speaker 1 24:10

else has done it. I know it's still. You know what I mean exactly.

Speaker 2 24:13

Well, but here's the thing it's I or whatever, but it is important to have stuff like that in the archive for two or three generations ahead.

Speaker 1 24:22

Yeah, of course, of course you know to look back and figure out what actually happened with all this. If anyone even wrote a book, there wouldn't be a word set Exactly. You can't say if they wrote a book while it was happening, or wrote a blog or wrote a diary and someone they've all their own right to say, or you know, whatever they wanted after what had happened to get

Speaker 1 24:43

off their, you know sense of release or whatever they're touting on themselves. I mean for if people want to call them for what they call them, what they call them, if people want to call them touts, they've touted on themselves, so they've literally. I know they're dead, but they're still ruining the reputation to some people because people would have maybe people will think you went against the don't talk thing.

Speaker 2 25:05

Yeah, you went against the don't talking and it was used.

Speaker 1 25:08

It was used like you say. For example, the dark was the OC of where he was of whenever, yeah, this was your rule. Yeah, you're one of the lead members who, like, instilled this in us don't talk. And then that's came so you've went against him and you believe, but he done it to himself. Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 25:26

I think I know, I know what you mean, but I think there's a difference. Doing it through a wee tape with a wee signature to say they'll come out after you're gone and fucking rocking up the castle rail and wrapping the door and saying, do you want a?

Speaker 1 25:37

few names I know. I know 100%. You wonder if it'd be interesting to know if the family's got any royalties running from it. Would they've? No, I wouldn't say it, like none of the accusers.

Speaker 2 25:47

I'd say even sure. You heard the aftermath after from the McConville's. God love them. The fella Michael come out and was raging at it.

Speaker 1 25:56

You can understand that of course it's man high there.

Belfast TV Drama and Driving Insurances

Speaker 2 26:00

Ladies, it is I read the book and when I read the book, I read the book before I knew it was being made into a TV series and then, when I found out it was being made into a TV series, I was like it's going to be a massive company like.

Speaker 2 26:12

Disney, so it's worldwide but I thought it was. I thought it was the best thing that has been done about the Troubles, Regardless of your politics or whatever, just for a piece of drama, like a piece of TV. It's world-class TV and, like Anto Boyle and Anthony Boyle and that wee girl Lola Pettigrew, they're two Westies. They were so good because they are fucking brilliant the two of them. They were the best things in that whole thing Unbelievable fucking brilliant with two of them.

Speaker 2 26:41

They were the best things in that whole thing. Unbelievable, and not that there was loads of good ones. I thought that we'd have to play Adams because he's such a hard role?

Speaker 1 26:46

yeah, because he's English especially for us did he come here? And I read I seen something on TikTok that he came here. Maybe stare or something for real.

Speaker 2 26:55

I wish it was me the only doctor. He should be at the joke, the other week. Oh, I've seen that he's a method actor.

Speaker 1 27:01

he came and he left the West Belfast and he didn't join the IRA. Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 2 27:06

But here that's such a hard role that yeah. And see the only thing, and that's not to go against the older actors like your man, martin, comstone and Nidge. What do you call him brilliant actors?

Speaker 2 27:17

but I actually thought the three ones that played them younger the cut, he aged them up it's no way they can do now, but it seems, because Anto was just fucking brilliant, he was brilliant and even the supporting cast of it, the wee Ryan McPartlin that was beside him as his wee, the wee raw mate that did them ones. The two wee ones the shot Cabin and Seamus, the two wee ones at the Shatt cabin, I thought they were all burning. I thought Adam Best is the first one that the dollars didn't want to bring to the ball he fell I forget his name.

Speaker 2 27:47

God forgive me, but I thought he was fucking excellent the whole cast was outstanding.

Speaker 1 27:52

That's here. That's what you want. That's here. That's the standard we have here you don't have to go.

Speaker 2 27:58

There's no one going to London in America to get actors but we have that here, we're fucking top, top talent here and it'll only encourage kids as well.

Speaker 1 28:05

Absolutely, kids will watch that and go happy days right up my street.

Speaker 2 28:08

Like the way they watched me and thought oh, I could do it. You led the way. You're the inspiration.

Speaker 1 28:13

You're the inspiration Paul Moose, he led the way I bet you asked for a taxi driver.

Speaker 2 28:18

Did you?

Speaker 1 28:18

have a stunt driver driving.

Speaker 2 28:28

No, it was back of a loader. Take a handbrake off, but the wheels are lacking.

Speaker 1 28:35

I had to get a pick up truck and I had just done the back of it, did the same for man.

Speaker 2 28:38

About Dog, I still say I see people phone me get a pickup truck, yeah, and then I just on the back of it doing the fucking thing.

Speaker 1 28:41

Did the same for.

Speaker 2 28:41

Man About Dog. I'm burning, so I was thinking man About Dog.

Speaker 1 28:43

I still say. I always say to people I see people phone me and go, I've got 8 bockers as a counsellor. I always do. That's incredible. I've got 8 bockers as a counsellor.

Speaker 2 28:55

Man About Dog. I'd time of my life right yeah. But they phoned me and I couldn't drive and they says right, ciarán, we're going to get you driving lessons and we're going to get you your driving lessons. So I was like this is fucking brilliant. Everything's falling into place and I'll never forget it. They phoned me and they says right, ciarán, you can go down here and whenever day it's.

Speaker 2 29:16

Mandela or Mandela down outside Dublin and it says the big red fucking mobile shop is going to be here and you're getting to drive it around that racetrack for a couple of hours so you can get used to it. And I was like how?

Speaker 1 29:27

are you doing?

Speaker 2 29:27

this is really fucking such a day so I went down off a train get out. The LAD rings me and goes Cairn bad news. And she went. The insurance company won't insure you to drive the van, even if you get your license, because you'll essentially be a novice driver. So I was like, right, so what happens there? And she went that's the end of the drive. That's the end of the drive.

Speaker 2 29:50

That's how I did it, fuck's sake and I was that close to getting it, and then I was 18. I never started driving until I'll get that. I'll get round it, I'll get round it, I'll get round it, I'll get round it something, put you up.

Speaker 1 30:01

You don't do it when you're young, you'll put it off, I pass my test when I'm 17 see, that's the way to do it, and you had a drive before you know what I mean saying nothing.

Speaker 2 30:12

I was like fucking journey as well. Journey was driving. I had a wee car, he was fucking put on it and I was like the big Laguna I don't know what they called it the big Laguna fucking Laguna.

Speaker 1 30:22

Three pillows on the hand, that's it booster seat it's just, if you don't do it when you're younger, you're all done one of my brothers. He's what 37 now and he's doing his theory now serious all these years. He obviously can't, he hasn't got a licence, but he can drive like and he's never, ever done it and he had no motivation to do it.

Speaker 2 30:41

There's a good few of them in the West, but they can drive and don't have a licence.

Speaker 1 30:44

I have a mate from America. He has an American licence. And he can't drive here and he lives here and he just drives here and he's insured here, but he's no licence here. It doesn't cover him. It doesn't cover him, it doesn. Left hand side, I don't know. See if you see, when you're getting insured you actually don't need to produce a license, as long as you're the registered owner of the car and you have tax and MOT you don't even need, it's only for like if you pulled in.

Speaker 1 31:12

So if anyone in this is watching this, get yourselves yourselves a car, get it registered under your name and get it insured and you'll be good to go and don't worry about the license later on hey, you'll not even get points.

Speaker 2 31:25

Just drive safely and the cops will have no reason to pull you in, that's it. That's it. Come out safer driving all day long. Don't be drinking and dreaming you'll end up spilling your drink. You'll be before you even started.

Speaker 1 31:37

I was still gone, fuck, that's all I need gone on for two years.

Speaker 2 31:39

That's that public nuisance fucking right.

Speaker 1 31:43

Public nuisance, fuck's sake causing havoc in the west. Car crashes every week, fucking insurance they're out.

Speaker 2 31:49

I've known the roads like in the 80s again.

Speaker 1 31:50

Fuck's sake take that back. I can't get insured.

Speaker 2 31:53

No more fucking at New Estate, the one at Biopass, we get the Swords flailing.

Speaker 1 31:57

Unbelievable. That's nuts up there. It's like fucking Darker halls at the minute. They're all like, oh, did you see it?

Speaker 2 32:03

I wouldn't drive up the side of the road. No, it's all lates. I like that, it's class.

Speaker 1 32:07

It's class, my uncle D and his boy Own a shop At the top of Waitrack. Never drive up there. Right when Raffles is, they've put lates.

Speaker 2 32:16

All, is that boutique or what is?

Speaker 1 32:21

that your hicks. They have it all fucking designed.

Speaker 2 32:23

Fuck sake, my missus is looking at fucking membership.

Speaker 1 32:25

I know it's crazy, she loves it.

Speaker 2 32:27

We were up the other day watching fucking Jammie Tham fresh linen Bala Murphy Christmas fucking Marigold 34 street and I'm walking in going for fuck, that's nice.

Speaker 1 32:39

I'll get that one now fucking around about 100 quid. So we are we fucking wax melts crackers but. I've got one in the car now, creed that's lovely because he gave me a big basket for my wedding big, massive basket so, fuck's sake, we're still going through them.

Speaker 2 32:56

Next time I'm up, don't be afraid to throw a few wax melts in there freebies, but it looks well. Even the top white rock, it looks class it definitely does and you notice, because they did it there in the middle of November.

Speaker 1 33:09

It's been going for a bit and it does bring some peace up and they wanted to do more on the horse shops, but I don't think two of the shops closed at their fucking kebab place closed down and something else closed down. So we've just done Raffles their place and then the wee sunbed shop. At the end they own that sunbed shop as well, oh do they that's flying as well, so they're going well here. Happy days we're in the wrong game here, fuck's sake them.

Speaker 2 33:30

Sunbeds are fucking such a game. I know the standard the standard.

Speaker 1 33:33

What about fucking get the Atlantic chapter flat Black? Is two in the morning. Fuck me, where are we all? The country I was on a playground fucks you unbelievable, isn't it?

Speaker 2 33:45

that's all that west is, but now you're fucking sunbed beauty shops everywhere you go that's it.

Speaker 1 33:50

See, we're always a wee bit behind in time. See, like Liverpool now, they're the same Liverpool Dublin now, us now and Glasgow we're Aye.

Speaker 2 33:58

In Glasgow or like em four cities? Does it all start down in London or something it must do? Aye, it just filters all out.

Speaker 1 34:02

It must do, Because even now all the Botox and all starts in London and then it flies over here, it flies in two Fuck's sake. Where's something here? You need to get over to London and see where they're getting rid of diesel cars. I heard they're trying to get rid of diesel cars by 2030. Right, buy a load of diesel cars now and keep them until after 2030 and then they'll be like what they'll?

Speaker 2 34:31

be like gold dust on takes. You mean just people will be wanting a diesel car because but if they're doing away with diesel cars, are you still going to be able to buy diesel?

Speaker 1 34:39

I'd say you can, aye, it's still oil, like people are still making diesel of it.

Speaker 2 34:42

Fucking, fly down the South Armagh. You get loads of it, aye, loads of it, aye, 100% it's all in the border Fucking burning.

Speaker 1 34:49

Fuck me. What so?

Speaker 2 34:51

by 2035 we're going to be milliners.

Speaker 1 34:53

I read something the other day.

Speaker 2 34:55

Here, mate, let's start as well, Fuck sake.

Speaker 1 34:57

Four more For more rubber. Get that far back.

Speaker 2 35:00

But sure. Then I read the RDA that if they want to go, if everybody went All electric For their cars it would take Something like 30 years that's probably bollocks To build the infrastructure For the electric.

Speaker 1 35:10

Yeah, sure, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 35:13

So there isn't Going to be enough charging points that's it, the ports, aye all your car parks, or in Belfast, or in the north or anywhere for years for electric going to recharge a car, so they're going to go fuck.

Speaker 1 35:26

I say I want a diesel car again and they'll have them all sacked away anyway, and you just join double mine.

Speaker 2 35:32

You mean you'll be a new Elon Musk?

Speaker 1 35:34

oh, aye, get, get the fucking roll of clocks back on the way. You know what I mean Fuck me that car's 30 years old and we got five men on it. I drove my house, do you fucking just in here. It's brand new. I haven't touched. Fuck's sake, sandy, bring her to the showroom where the time belt goes.

Speaker 2 35:54

Raging.

Speaker 1 35:55

That door's all day rust, no warranty, rust car, fuck that. I wonder what the mechanics gonna do? What?

Speaker 2 36:01

do you mean?

Speaker 1 36:01

For fucking Mechanics gonna have to be all-actuals. Oh, here, fucking right. But sure they're bound to be all-a-way on the electric cars on that day aren't they Bound to be now like because that'd be fucking, that's your business going.

Speaker 2 36:12

Big Kev, oh Big Kev, he looks after me as well.

Speaker 1 36:16

Absolute gentleman. He does my car as well. He just takes your stress Out of your life. Oh, he's a top man.

Speaker 2 36:22

He's a. My man introduced me To him pocket and I said it's one of the best things he's ever done for me. Because, see, I'm anti-mechanic and I tell Kevin this all the time. You could stroke my life Out of me tomorrow. I have no clue about cash so if you turn around and say to me, ciarán, that's 600 quid then.

Speaker 1 36:39

I'm going.

Speaker 2 36:40

I owe you 600 quid, no matter what, well you know we're not naive enough for a fucking spark plug or something do you? Know what I mean. So, but big cabin, you always know every time you go round to him you go. Is that it really?

Speaker 1 36:51

you really do feel like he's napping. See, because he's so honest like that there he's booked out all the time. All the time he had to book a car and see if I know I'm up for MOT, I book in two months. Before I say I need a check MOT, he's like I'll try and get you in.

Christmas Present Stress and Memories

Speaker 2 37:06

He's booked out all the time. But see if you're proper, proper stuck like, if you're using your car for work or something. He'll go, no problem, leave it with me and I'll try and sort something out for I really will tap on tap on, that's it who else I'll be like? Oh yes, we've got a couple freebies here. Freebies here.

Speaker 1 37:22

Moxie, may you be in London for Christmas, christmas presents straight off the boutique. I'm not, I'm sort of for Christmas here and there bro it's my waste birthday day. I usually get Christmas presents because her birthday is on the 12th. I would get half. Just get loads of presents and half them, but I didn't get her enough, so I just had to give her them all this morning and I haven't got a single thing for Christmas for and the child he's all swore like. I haven't got no answer for it.

Speaker 2 37:57

See the kids you're with. What age are we on Three, Four here? They're easy at that age.

Speaker 1 38:00

He's four in January. But they're easy at that age. They're easy at that age, see now my oldest one's like 13.

Speaker 2 38:07

And he's not difficult, but you're going fuck, I'm hardly going to fly down the Smiths for him.

Speaker 1 38:11

I know, I know All that. It's the clothes, Ah. The clothes. The CP Clos Ah the Clos Because they're same pay company as Stone Island.

Speaker 2 38:18

That's it. They're so small men there in your next year.

Speaker 1 38:20

I got a fucking big Alessi truck. See, that's it, I'm happy to that was our David Deergo. You little fit you know Stone Island. All this here I don't care, no idea on the feet, no bars.

Speaker 2 38:36

Your dad's running about in a pair of golds kingfishers do you remember nasa coats, nasa nasa jackets, right?

Speaker 2 38:49

so this is one of the best bits of graffiti ever in my life. We were in school, we went to CB, I don't know, I don't want to say fucking names, but there was a wee fella right who came in and it was for fear, I remember, and nasa coats were sort of big when I was about p7, right, and it was just, it was like it was like a spaceman jacket, big silver spaceman jacket, and it said nasa on the back of it. Right, and we'll say this names guy was sean, which it wasn't right because I don't want to fuck with him. So, uh, he came in and everybody was like what the fuck do you think he's wearing a NASA coat? Right, because they were beat out. They were beat out by a season and he dandled in god love him like. When you think back to being kids, don't think about it and I'll never forget it.

Speaker 2 39:29

It'll say who done the fucking graffiti. So we went in the fucking. This was in registration. He came in with us and then, about three periods later, we went in the English and we pot him-potted and we went up on the board. Sean's ma brought back NASA and I thought it was the funniest bit of fucking slag that I'd ever seen. And then we landed and it was just like fuck's sake, nasa coat was never seen again, sean crack.

Speaker 1 39:53

Everyone's talking about NASA and you know a week later they'll bring back a train train setter, big silver coat it was a fucking cracker.

Speaker 2 40:01

I can't just change like big time, big time NASA jackets and the old button bottoms, button bottoms, button ups. I guess button ups whips off everybody.

Speaker 1 40:08

I just pull them gig big cracker.

Speaker 2 40:10

Kids don't know what they're missing all wee birds on the button ups used to pull.

Speaker 1 40:14

What have you done?

Speaker 2 40:16

for that now.

Speaker 1 40:16

Straight in. That was the good. Have you locked up? That was the good. Oh, you were all right. Do you think about?

Speaker 2 40:21

that.

Speaker 1 40:21

We did like we did, You'd be on the route, wouldn't you? We did used to do that there, 100%.

Speaker 2 40:26

And the viewers used to laugh at you. They'd laugh at you and chase you and all that there, bit of crack. Oh, you did that. Now. A fucking ring, you'd be ruined, oh fucking finished.

Speaker 1 40:42

Fuck's sake, we'd do, we'd be the best, before they come in, oh there. That's right. Everything now Like see it's getting. That's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 40:46

They're just that's the call. I know Fucking tracking devices. I know you can't do anything.

Speaker 1 40:50

Everything is wrong with the world.

Speaker 2 40:51

That's it. That's why the world Is just instant. I know Everybody. Everybody wants everything. Now you think nobody's any patience anymore like. I'm sitting. My missus will be watching this going, fuck her. He's preaching the word about patience. I know, fucks sake, I'm the same but it's gone like fucks sake.

Speaker 1 41:05

Eating Christmas presents, fucks sake. My dad used to make a gator and fucking prawn wheels and a round block of plywood and cut it.

Speaker 2 41:13

And you were, we were delighted with it Fucking buzzing Delighted, be sure, of that between the five of us Delighted.

Speaker 1 41:18

Why, why, why?

Speaker 2 41:19

I remember I was thinking about this the other day, me and our brother, my older sister before our Maeve was born, and my man and dad, we used to have another wee house and you'd run in from the kitchen and our settee was over there and then there was a wee wall here, I guess. So we were fucking blah, blah, blah and ripping your cock a wee presence over, and then we sort of finished and then my dad went Look, aaron, when you turned round there was two bikes Fucking best morning ever Ever of your life, because you thought that was it over, and then you turned round and there was fucking two bikes made out of rubber, like burning I fell off the bike that day at all because it was closed round, made a bit of a balling somewhere.

Speaker 1 41:54

Made a hole in the knee.

Speaker 2 41:55

Had to go up the air crawlies.

Speaker 1 41:55

Shoes ragged. I had them up there crawling. I want to have them on your fucking Christmas day. On your boxing day clothes. You used to stick your foot in the back wheel and throw yourself down on the skate, and all I was doing that big arse in a shoe rack.

Speaker 2 42:04

Do you know what I was doing? Trying to bring the back wheel up? And I don't kick all these carries nailing ball street. That's exactly where I did it.

Speaker 1 42:12

I fucking threw the brakes on straight fucking wet as fuck.

Speaker 2 42:15

It was that day and I had one. Never forget it. Wee green corns and a cream jumper and I come in.

Speaker 1 42:21

Sunday best fucking rude.

Speaker 2 42:25

No, sunday dinner for you that day fucking rude, honestly it's different now.

Speaker 1 42:30

Like big time it's just gadgets, gadgets. I don't even know, like I don't even know what direction the world is going anymore. Like I don't think, like I don't even know what direction the world is going on anymore. I don't think it used to be motorbikes. The kids who had a couple of quid would have been fan of motorbikes.

Speaker 2 42:44

I was never allowed. We were never allowed motorbikes no, my dad, no way motorbikes.

Speaker 1 42:50

All you heard in turf was motorbikes first thing in the morning, right and bikes and all were See. Now it's just you get a phone, say you get a phone. What else do you get a kid? What Say a teenager? Close?

Speaker 2 43:02

That's it. Close, that's what I'm saying, that's what's happening. Close Even I speak to my emina About what do you want For Christmas this year? Just a wee close FIFA points. Stop my Playstation, it's mad.

Speaker 1 43:13

Bit of aftershave.

Speaker 2 43:15

I know where are you going?

Speaker 1 43:16

fucking we're rocking around in the Sauvage hanging out fucking Charlie Lodge.

Speaker 2 43:20

You know what I mean but that's the way it all is, I know fuck it's mad.

Speaker 1 43:24

I'm not too up against it. Fuck it, you're not too alive. Christmas Eve I'm finished, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 43:30

Nah, I'll be, but that's me every year. Christmas Eve run the't even say hello to me, I just head down, stick in the sky.

Speaker 1 43:39

You don't get that many glasses.

Speaker 2 43:40

No, they hang like but see, even there again, it used to be better crack on Christmas Eve. Yeah, when you went in there, I can remember years ago, me and Geordie working in a call centre and we got off early and we went into a town that blacked Went and bought. Adele, his wife and my Paula had the same fucking Christmas presents. Yeah, just rocked home. Just rocked home, probably buzzing next day gave them his presents and they were laughing, I mean it was good.

Speaker 1 44:05

Crack all back in. Too much pressure now, ah, fucking everything's fucking.

Speaker 2 44:08

What did he get? What did? Everyone put it up and no, it does my bollocks in Black Friday.

Speaker 1 44:13

Yeah, because do you ever see when you Monday oh fuck, it does me in.

Speaker 2 44:16

And you're looking at it going right, we need to get that nag, and then see you can't get it at that stage and then you have to bat four days later for 50 quid there and you think you've got absolutely fucking struck and then you resent the hang the whole time.

Speaker 1 44:27

I know 100% I. Then I end up something and, like I'm not going to struggle with it or anything, spent on a track shoot and it didn't have my size, me right, fuck it. So we're down there down the stairs in the freezers and as soon as you get down the stairs, the exact same track shoot was right at the bottom of my elevator. Look, it was 30% ceiling. Serious, what the fuck. I had my say. I went up.

Speaker 1 44:54

I was buying a few things and I looked at the till it was 232 quid. Right, so I spent, got it happy days. It was 300. All upstairs, walked out, was standing in a town, met my wife. She works in a town. She was like where do you get the traction? I was talking to my mom. She was like does he get the voucher? I was like what voucher? I was like what voucher? She was like you get a 50 pound voucher if you spend over 250 quid. I mean what she's like? You get a free 50 pound voucher every time you spend over 250 quid. And I was like stroke, stroke the fucking death. I went to spend 235 quid on a track suit.

Speaker 1 45:31

I could have bought a pair of socks for 15 quid to myself 50 and I was raising. I'm still raising. I cut up on someone's Christmas present where was it in the house of? Fraser house of Fraser so if you spent 250 local, local boxing superstar.

Speaker 2 45:46

Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 45:47

look after your own ravioli and toast ravioli and toast ravioli ravioli and toast for Christmas dinner. The ravioli and toast from a Christmas dinner because you wouldn't give me a £15.50.

Speaker 2 45:59

You had a screwed ravioli and all and we won one bit of mince up. Oh, stinking. You had to go for seconds oh, I was tired of fucking buying a can of manabiri at lunch that day. No chance at a screwed dinner, fucking stinking with ravioli and fucking fish fingers going oh fuck, see this wee I was going to get. Did he ask me about this, this wee brand?

Speaker 1 46:18

I thought it was a fucking Liverpool tip did you, god, forgive me.

Speaker 2 46:21

I thought I'd want to say for six who do you support man City?

Speaker 1 46:25

I'll say nothing. I'll say nothing. I'll say nothing.

Speaker 2 46:28

My dad's a City man oh, fair enough, so you didn't start supporting him in 2008. Nah, you always supported him always supported Celtic. And then did you sort of Get into City a wee bit more when they started being really good.

Speaker 1 46:42

When I went into no, no, they were shit. Aye, they were still shit. Whenever I P Sam, that's fair enough. I'm United like P Sam.

Speaker 2 46:49

I haven't allowed the shit my two brothers.

Speaker 1 46:50

United Because my uncles on my massey Brought them. I was too young, I was only three or something. I didn't go there, we were like seven.

Speaker 2 46:58

Like fuck now what? I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 47:01

I said he's going the same direction. You're in it. What's mad, isn't it? So they went. They made it Matt's, matt Roy Keane, matt Eric Conn. I was eminence.

Speaker 2 47:08

Turned coach right away, and then.

Speaker 1 47:10

I stayed at City, but I only started Taking a real interest in football.

Speaker 2 47:14

Only when the I was a bonder Starts happening. Yep, all at the slay, everybody's got their team and I was City, but it wasn't.

Speaker 1 47:21

I didn't know about In City perhaps no, but like when I was in first year, city were fucking shit, shit, shit. Right up in Thai Was probably. City won the league. Well, city got First. One was 2000.

Speaker 2 47:31

Saxon.

Speaker 1 47:31

Sinewatra came in Aye In 2008.

Speaker 2 47:34

Aye, that's right.

Speaker 1 47:36

Aye, that's right, the wee he got done for fraud. The Thailand fella aye Aye, aye Aye. And then the Qataris coming out, or the UAE, whatever it was aye Aye, two thousand. I hear they know what they're doing don't they?

Football Players, Money, and Morals

Speaker 2 47:44

Nick Aye? No, messin', they know what they're doing. They're fuckin'. There's some charges they're making. Against the charges, I think you sort of go like who was it? I think Carragher says he says I've never seen the Count in a football match. I know, do you want to get that? You can't take away Guardiola's. He's amazing people say he's running football, but realistically he's just a genius at what he does exactly, he really is to go in the man City now he's got a doing that at the minute, but it's still not working.

Speaker 2 48:19

He's got to get rid of a few players he's got to get rid of he's capped he's capped see, I know they're working through the ages, some of them last night Godonkin Walker, katie Boo, even Jones he's brought some people in that.

Speaker 1 48:31

Just he hasn't replaced anyone. Like Stones is old now, he's only 30 Stones but he's been. He's been playing every heck of Rooney when Rooney was 30.

Speaker 2 48:41

He's been playing from he's 17 16 there's very few of them now that I think. See when they're getting to 32 and 33, it's like the old 36 like I know like Milner and you'll have Sala or whatever. Some of them are just freaks that can go on, but them started.

Speaker 1 48:55

Younger are definitely slowing down younger as well now, but that makes sense.

Speaker 2 48:58

The fucking body can only take so much can't it like a Misha Ronaldo?

Speaker 1 49:01

I know, but he's a freak, he's a freak.

Speaker 2 49:03

He's probably one of the greatest ever oh, without a doubt so, because he looks after his body as well as being like he lives like a monk. He can?

Speaker 1 49:12

he can play 70 minutes a game and make a big impact for the next for an hour or two years. He just has to be fit for 70 minutes. He looks after himself, like you say, he lives like a monk, so he'll get away with it. And he will get away with it even if he's playing it 60% to his best is still good enough. What it means to you is it doesn't need to be 100%.

Speaker 2 49:35

But here I reckon you'd get a start out there in Saudi like, oh, fuck me, jesus Christ, he's me, jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 49:39

Can I get a crowd in?

Speaker 2 49:40

Jesus, brutal, fucking madness. Some of them bigger teams, the one that him and Naeem are. They're pulling in big crowds, but Stevie G, he's racking up. He'd be as well Coming over and managing Clivenville.

Speaker 1 49:50

Clivenville Better crowd, better atmosphere.

Speaker 2 49:52

Wouldn't be the same dough, though. Fair enough, all all the same weather.

Speaker 1 49:56

Do you wonder why some people go. I know the dough's big like. I remember Mares went and I'm like what is he doing? But he's.

Speaker 2 50:02

Muslim, isn't he? So it's good home to live in a Muslim country. I get that where's the competitiveness?

Speaker 1 50:08

what do you want to achieve? What do you want to achieve in the Premier League?

Speaker 2 50:12

see at the end of the day, sean, I get that, I do get that, but say if I had won the Premier League and what he's won. And then somebody phoned me and says do you want 200 million?

Speaker 1 50:20

I go fuck it then what more can you buy? If you're on 400 grand a week, 300 grand a week at City and you're getting that every week for another 5 years or 3 years playing competitive football, what more can you buy?

Speaker 2 50:32

buy a turkey. All he shakes. I'm scared I can't get my tits.

Speaker 1 50:37

I'm on my turn. Come on, get that boy over here. Get the fucking phone out. Get him over here, fuck's sake. I told him Robbie Uli, he fucking. He told him I'm fucking getting a tit.

Speaker 2 50:47

Alright, so, as you say, it's hard to refuse when the money's out, we can all have our morals and we do, and all that there and like there's a bit of me, sometimes goes fuck. I hate to get the phone call, do you?

Speaker 1 50:59

know what I mean?

Speaker 2 50:59

yeah, but then you'd be away in a heartbeat. That's your family and life changing, isn't it like it really is, like you'd be away in a heartbeat the money, the money the world produces now is insane unbelievable insane, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 51:11

And the prices, the prices of some stuff are insane too. But the money it's fucking. There's people that they're not. It's trillionaires now Frightening. I know People are like making trillions.

Speaker 2 51:22

There's people that have more money in countries. It's serious Individuals that have more money in countries they're like Jesus Christ. It's not right, but here, before I forget, right.

Speaker 1 51:32

I want to tell you about this.

Speaker 2 51:34

We're off track with that one. It stands for Maxwell Lewis, right, and Julie was an actor who passed away about four, maybe five years ago I think it was just before COVID. She was only in her 30s. She had a heart condition. I should have asked her sister, stacey, what the actual name of the condition was, but it's her hereditary thing was. I know her uncle died from it a few years before Julie did I remember that happening there? But this is. Her sister launched this wee brand JML it's called and you can go on the Instagram and all and buy wee stuff, especially for the girls. There's all wee leggings and socks and beanies and all that there. It's just like wee gym wear and all the money goes towards a bursary to help an actor go and become successful and train, and all that there each year. And Stacey is working her sacks off.

Speaker 1 52:20

Is there an actual page for it? Yes, there's one.

Speaker 2 52:23

It's JML the brand and you get it on Facebook, you get it on Instagram. All the socials JML, so have a wee look at it are they all red at all?

Speaker 1 52:32

is red the colour of the brand?

Speaker 2 52:33

no, no, no she's red, green, yellow she's all sorts of colours aye, she's all sorts of colours, so get on to Stacey and give her a wee, it's good it's good to give back too.

Speaker 1 52:43

100% 100%. I think that's one of things where we this wee country Ireland, is good at like always giving back, because we're all very community based because it's such a small country.

Speaker 2 52:55

I think that too small community.

Speaker 1 52:56

So it does, I think I do small communities. They just feel like everyone chips in.

Speaker 2 52:59

I think I do see for our industry, the acting industry, the theatre industry, whatever you want to call it film, because everybody's constantly competing with each other. Do you know what I mean? It's like I could walk on the air like me and one of my best mates, paddy, was put when you think back, it was an awful fucking asked to do both auditions for a play that was going to Australia, right, and they told us it's only used who we're seeing. So immediately, me and him were like do I really fucking have to tell this?

Speaker 2 53:28

Because now you're competing against one which is fair enough, we've all been in for the same parts before. But that day they brought us to that meeting together and Paki sat outside and I went in first and he heard me. And then I came out and sat outside waiting for him and I heard him do it fucking right, and that bastard got the part and he got to go to Australia.

Speaker 1 53:48

Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 53:50

I was like for fuck's sake, Do you know?

Speaker 1 53:52

what.

Speaker 2 53:52

I mean, but even after that, me and Paki, like after, like a year later or whatever, and we were talking about it and we went, that was a really fucking shit thing to do, I know like they could have just do it a half an hour apart not telly, like we would have ended up telling each other I'm being seen for this and you would have figured it out, but putting it to you I was being. He was sitting out there and you could hear every word.

Speaker 1 54:15

It's a ruthless industry. Oh, it's ruthless. My missus works on it. That's how I met my missus. She was doing a wee. There's a there's a Hang On Baby's Eye player about me called Kit Dog. It's an Irish language show about just about my life and boxing and all that's carrying on. They started doing a producing TV show and I was living in Glasgow at the time and she came over and I married through that and Ihuh and then that's never mind, but I know how ruthless it is like it really is, but I I don't know if it has to be like it does have to be.

Speaker 2 54:46

I think one of the things as actors we hit is the there's a sort of people are trying to get like a campaign going at the minute to tell us no, yeah, so that you can go for auditions, yeah, and then you only hear how you've got on, if you've got the part which isn't right. No, because then and don't get me wrong we're all long on the tooth now to figure it out if you don't hear after a week or so, then you're not getting it. But there's nothing wrong, with a bit of calm and decency, to just ring an agent and go see them four that you sent in more. Thanks very much. Tell them that's great, or?

Speaker 2 55:17

tell them they're on hold or we're still considering this or whatever.

Speaker 1 55:21

But just to just just treat people right. We're just going soft. So people want to hear no, that's it. People are afraid oh, that's it oh people were thick skin, people are thick skin. You need to be thick skin, you go constructive criticism people never be afraid of it. People just go fuck us I'm dumb or give up and he can't get me don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 55:39

I've had plenty of times where I go don't fuck it, I'm a dumbass, do you know what I mean? But you're never really going to be dumb because it's a need to want to succeed on it. That's what you do, do you?

Speaker 1 55:47

know what I mean.

Speaker 2 55:54

That's what you do exactly.

Speaker 1 55:55

But I don't know say you're content, you're happy.

Speaker 2 55:57

That's it. You're content, you're happy in life, and everything's just You've enough to keep you busy. Ah, it's going to be a lot.

Speaker 1 56:03

You've enough to keep the main occupant 100%, and the next time you come up now is just give me a headpiece.

Speaker 2 56:09

Give me a headpiece for now. I've sort of moved into a director to play there for Dionna. Well, it wasn't the first time we'd done a bit of directing before. It was the first proper big production I'd done there with Diona. Diona, yeah, Her show, her and Sean's show was called Saxon City Hall.

Speaker 1 56:25

I actually gave me tickets to that.

Speaker 2 56:27

Do you know that way in there I?

Speaker 1 56:28

didn't show up and I texted her. I says we've had show this week. And I looked and I went oh fuck, I forgot all about that here.

Speaker 2 56:35

It's a nightmare or something, but seek a common home. But to go out at night can be hard sometimes, you know you're, especially when you've wee ones. Do you know what I mean? But no, that was good. So I'd like to go in and do a wee bit more. I've started to do a bit of writing, but like the writing's fucking anybody can do that. Do you know it's? Then are you going to try and develop it and all that there? So, and then I have a couple of things coming up next year. So why?

Speaker 1 57:01

because that's what they're doing. I've seen cn, tod and all done. We sure that there were bbc.

Speaker 2 57:05

Seen that I don't see that the tarunan uh as well, but that's good.

Speaker 1 57:11

It's good that they're the bbc as well, or, excuse me, are offering uh opportunities yeah, because it's like what it comes towards, like we should be sure I forget the name of what it's called, but I but uh, I watched her own, and thomas don gordon was in that one down to the boxing coach.

Speaker 2 57:26

I watched every one, but I know here, look, she'll see the end of the day. See, the easiest thing in the world to do is criticize. Yeah, you can sit and watch sammons doing that. You can sit and watch, like, see all them wee lads doing the rapping and all that at wee what do you call them? At wee lads doing the in the kitchen and fucking and you can see him coming on and saying about people leaving comments for him that are dicks, fuck him.

Speaker 1 57:49

He's been locked in his kit, walked away. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 57:53

he's doing nobody, nobody. Yeah, if you've got the balls to put yourself out there, you're going to get criticism, no matter where it is. Look at Nick at there fucking Flan flan flan, absolutely, and here fucking good luck, because they went down a controversial route. Yes, and now they were going to get it. Oh, aye See whoever manages them, he's a fucking genius, but I don't know if it is their management or if it's them three.

Speaker 1 58:15

JJ's very, very fucking switched on.

Speaker 2 58:17

They've got their head they went to school with me.

Speaker 1 58:19

Like yeah, they blew me in school and I think Liam was a few years younger, but they've got their head, but their music's brilliant as well it's catchy as fuck. You want to listen to it, especially because I'm a Gilgore. I can understand what they're saying, but even you don't have to I. I'm actually going to their concert here next week.

Speaker 2 58:36

It's going to be first in the SSE.

Speaker 1 58:38

Where is?

Speaker 2 58:39

it the SSE. Oh, the one in the Odyssey right. Happy days. Looking forward to that I'll be class. I've seen him lately but they're, everybody loves him. And they're fucking flying at the minute.

Speaker 1 58:49

They're playing the game. You know what I mean. They're being Controversial, they're getting Controversial sales they're getting all the baits from the British media and all that then? They're using it and then like the one for the funding last week when they were first starting out the court. Thing they got the funding back when they got to court and they split it between the two communities, the Shankill was one on turf as well.

Speaker 1 59:10

One was in at Balmurphy. That's where it was at Murph. That's where it was in Murph. Yes, it was Ballamore, ballamore, fee and Shankle, fee and Shankle. Good lads, brilliant to see. As I say, they're doing no harm.

Speaker 2 59:21

They're doing nobody no harm, and everybody you know yourself. There's always fuckers out there who want to see people fail. Ah, fucks sake.

Speaker 1 59:33

Do you know what I? Everything about the world, especially at.

Speaker 2 59:36

Henry.

Speaker 1 59:37

Hall figure nails are stinking. I can do that. I can do that, but never do it, but it's so, but it's even.

Speaker 2 59:43

No one melts the fucker to me. It's not even the ones that go. I can do that. I can do that. It's the ones that just sit there and go. That's shit. Why is it shit? That's shit. We don't get on like that. What do they do?

Speaker 1 59:54

why they're getting on like it exactly. They're getting up to try and everything's perfect.

Speaker 2 59:59

Do you know what I mean? So, like I say, easiest thing in the world to do is criticise people. Do you know?

Speaker 1 1:00:03

what I mean. Well, listen, we'll wrap it up here, thank you very much for coming in coming up.

Speaker 2 1:00:08

No problem at all.

Speaker 1 1:00:09

You're a gentleman happy days, mate good stuff.