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The Public Nuisance Podcast
Host Sean McComb interviews various guests
The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #021 “You, Me & Marley” with Caine Grogan
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Podcaster & Actor, Caine Grogan to the podcast
We cover Acting, Cops, Podcasting, Caine Shaving his Head for a Role, GOT, Jason Stathom, Hairspray, Underage Boxing, Pulling Moves, Big Rats and much more.
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Speaker 2:What an Irish soldier an Irish soldier podcast host. Bit of an extra as well been on a few TV shows, have you? Oh, I know what Game of Thrones Line of Duty? That's news to me, is it? Oh man, I just thought most used extra on Line of Duty season 7, season 7 or like season 6, serious, my face was everywhere.
Speaker 1:Fuck me, that's class. I never read. Is it now, is it?
Speaker 2:I had a few fucking few mad ones here how did you find out? Lethal. Actually, my first day doing line of duty dressed as a cop, obviously like sweat, and I put up a selfie on snapchat just saying all drug dealers in the district give me 20% or else not. Joking turned my phone off, done the stuff we were doing, looked at like 20 messages on Snapchat. People deleted me on Facebook, lads text me going I hope you're joking and stuff like that. They actually thought I was a cunt.
Speaker 1:Ah, fuck, that's mad because you're rude, because the the costumes are so real, uniforms are proper and then like, obviously you coming from the army as well people go like fuck, maybe he's like he's got the right credentials to be a cop or something about me, like I could be, like I look like a cop yeah.
Speaker 2:I just look like a.
Speaker 1:I just look like a cop.
Speaker 2:All cops are you never come across an age cap very rarely you do like ACAB, that's it.
Speaker 1:So here, fucking here, how did you get involved with that? Did you just? Is there like a? Did you have like a background of like?
Speaker 2:of acting, acting a dick, just so I applied. Like I love Game of Thrones, game of Thrones, game of Thrones at the time was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:So I went on the NI extras and just fucking stuck like a thing up. I was sitting at work one day for Sky and I got a phone call just saying can you come up to the set of Winterfell to do extra work? I was like fuck. I saw Ron in the monitor says listen here, there's a family emergency down there. My ma says she needs me, so he me. So he goes. Yes, yes, no, bar go, went and done that. Stuck a sick lane in.
Speaker 2:Just say fuck, there's stuff going on here in the house and then I've done that a few times where I've stuck in sick lanes in old jobs and fucking just got like to go and do extra work as well, so I done that. There it was fucking classic powerful I'll give you the bug to be like.
Speaker 1:Near enough fun to be like to be an actor to get like a lead role and try and get like some acting skills.
Speaker 2:I'd love to do it like honestly but see, for me, like one of my things, like I've worked on it now and it was a big thing when I was doing the podcast, I tried to tried to overcome like I have a stammer yeah but I've worked on it myself, like I tried to do the intro and I was like and then I was like mate, I'm sorry I've got to stop her, but I've kind of worked on that there and it's something that I'm more working on now than I'm like fuck yeah, I'd love to do that there, I think there could be opportunities out there and like see just doing this the NI fucking podcast.
Speaker 1:I know Shane and stuff. They applied for a role in in the line of duty and stuff and blue lights and didn't get it as well. So the fact that you ran it, that's a good way to introduce yourself on the scene. But I was applying for the extras because anyone get it does pay, or what.
Speaker 2:Oh, aye, so Game of Thrones, because it was all night, it was all night shoots, yeah, so you're getting like I think it was like 130 quid a night. You're getting fed twice, so that's fucking grand. Plus you're on. Tv plus you're on TV.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna watch TV series of probably all time, fucks sake dummy dirty like dummy dirty, so it says right, we foot.
Speaker 2:I was like great, no, bar. I've never had a shave there before my life. Got the head shaved. I've never saw my hairline before. So my hairline went right back to there and I just sat there staring at the mirror going.
Speaker 1:Lord Voldemort, it goes at me. It was like a McDonald's aim.
Speaker 2:I was just, and then they fucking threw a helmet on me the entire time, so my hair wasn't even there. You couldn't even hear it.
Speaker 1:You could have just fucking pulled the friends back and stuck the helmet on. I was fucking fuming. I was like fuck, if that happened to me. I just had to say no, I fucking couldn't shave my head. I'd go back for starters, and then my head's that small, probably fucking disappear. You wouldn't even know it was me.
Speaker 2:Seeing how I went into the army. They says, like I heard, right, they'll shave your head, they'll do all this, they'll do all that. And I says, right, I can do anything here, anything in the army, but if they go near and try and shave my head, I'm just quitting. I'm just going because I can't get my hair back and stuff like that there. And they says to me it was about the 5th day in and he goes like Grogan haircut and I goes fuck. He goes your hair's too long and I had to go up to the corporal and I says to him I goes to Foggy McCoggin. I goes listen, mate, if I shave my head it's not coming back.
Speaker 2:I'm bald for life here and he just looked at me and goes here. I don't think am I going to have you being bald on my conscience the rest of my life so I just like whip her scissors she was in the state of it, but I still had her so it's all matters, isn't it?
Speaker 1:you didn't lose it. I have a mate who I loved my mates from a party years ago in fucking Beecham and apparently shaved his hair completely. They all did faked her birthday the whole time was this like fucking?
Speaker 2:no, like Covid.
Speaker 1:Or was this just this was before Covid, just all the lads were in a party and they all shaved their heads, and Barney's hair never grew back he had to go to. Turkey. He had to go to Turkey and get a hair transplant in the ring everyone's had, that I know. Barney believes that he was the first one to do it and he's like so. He always says see, say, it wasn't for me, it'd be fucked. Like that, it wasn't for me, it'd be fucked, you know he's like a trendsetter later we used to call him Jason Statham because he looked like my bully.
Speaker 1:Jason Statham's a fucking hard he's a machine now. He's like fucking well trained in real life and all as well the gang.
Speaker 2:He does his own stunts. Not all that, but like I saw a video of Tom Cruise doing his own stunts. Aww, that's insane he's a machine that fella for a guy who's all like in the all that sound housey stuff. He's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:I've seen the one where he did. You see the one where he does with the parachute, with the motorbike that's the one I watched.
Speaker 2:That's fucking insane that.
Speaker 1:I was just sitting reason it never used to be. Maybe it's just something. I get older, but I see now when I go anywhere high I'm like fuck, I'll be like, oh, fuck, hates him. Rollercoasters freaks me out, but I love watching that shit. That's why I had the animal like the wee man Orin Wade on here, the animal body, because he claims all them high buildings and like video and I know him and I'm like fuck, this is what's he at.
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Speaker 1:That's not familiar, fuck that. But I suppose people are into different thrills. 100%. People are like adrenaline junkies. Like it's like driving. Like people drive fucking super big motorbikes and all taking corners. Like fuck, it's just, we went to.
Speaker 2:Disneyland Paris in December and I'm like I hate roller coasters, hate them with a passion, but I was just like I was with my missus. So oh yeah, fuck I, you ever get on that 100% no bar Sitting there the entire time shaming, big loops and all and stuff like that she said she looked over and my hair was literally up from here. Man, I don't think she expected the depths of the hairline. It's fucking. It's well hidden.
Speaker 1:That looks well like a furnace Hairspray, mine's the same. I where her's pregnant, but my hair's fucked, but my family, her line's just like that. We all have like a V front as well. You see like an M at ours, like a V front. My wee lad no, has it, but he's a big mop of hair. Your wee lad's fucking, he's a fucking lunatic, he's fucking. He's just. He's one of them, kids, just, everyone just takes a lick into him he's.
Speaker 1:I always take him out with me. You know, like for me he was no age, I just took him everywhere with me, so he just engaged with people. He's not one bit shy, he's just a wee fucking lad, do you? Think he'll be like you kind of hopefully not, hopefully, not, hopefully not. I was well when I was younger, like, but I settled down really when I got a bit older, like I started getting successful with boxing. But hopefully I just he'll manage it.
Speaker 2:There's three of you sitting there, three brothers or four? Four brothers, four brothers.
Speaker 1:My man has four sons and one one one daughter.
Speaker 2:Say, if you had to have your son turn out like any of your three brothers fuck, who are you going for?
Speaker 1:I don't know me probably me head on. I just think. No, I wouldn't say that. I think we're all mad in our own way. Our Gerard's, very sensible the oldest one, nah, but when he was younger he wasn't you know what I mean, and he was as mad as anyone, but I was the same. When I was younger, I was fucking nuts people still say I'm nuts.
Speaker 1:But it was worse when I was younger and then, as I've got older, I've sort of like I'm level head now, but rd was very quiet when he was younger. Now he's nuts, we're drinking on him and he's a lunatic, so it's just.
Speaker 1:It's just be his own person but hopefully it's closer to what I am because I haven't been involved in sporting all the little dinner over the phone and drinking a lot madness. Um, obviously I love a beer, but not like prep my part in it and all that. So hopefully. Plus, rd had a kid when he was 21. I wanted to live his life with him before he started, so hopefully he ends up more like me. Is he in the box as well? I brought him to football and hurling and stuff and he just he's no interest so. But I have my own gym, as you know, and fucking I just I bring him down and I'm doing bag sessions with people and he just loves it punching away and running about. But I just want him to do whatever he wants you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like my wife is singing and she's in the acting and she went to drama school and she's a TV producer and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:If there's any rules coming up, give me a buzz that's it.
Speaker 1:Get him in the fuck, but I just want him to do whatever he wants to do. No real pressure on him. If he wants to box, he can box, but I'd say he probably will, more than likely.
Speaker 2:I remember Paddy saying about the weight cut when he was young, boxing and stuff, how unhealthy it was going into later life. See, if he's like like say he does, like want to do boxing, he's gonna like drop weight and stuff like that, or is he just gonna fucking just go and enjoy it?
Speaker 1:I just I wouldn't encourage it. Nah, I wouldn't encourage it. I always encourage growth like cause. I'm a firm believer that underage boxing means jack shit, like, means nothing, like it doesn't even matter if you're good or not, just development, just as long as you're developed. Because at the end of the day, see, underage boxing, it's only a sport, it's not a job. It's not like you don't need to be successful, just need to enjoy it. Because, like you go and play a football match for, say, let's say, fucking Newhall, or an underage football team, st James and Swifts underage 100%, because it's all your hits are on your.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, that's the way boxing was for me, that's the way it should have been now. I hated losing, but everyone should hate losing at any sport. I hated losing for Gordon. I hated losing for fucking when I played for Newhall or Holy Trinity or whoever I played for. You're a Gordon man, aye Aldi fan, are you? Ah, ah. So we were fair play, fair play, born and bred um, but we fucking, we like. I just hated losing sport, but it was. It was only sport. Yeah, that's all it ever was and that's all it ever should have been. And I think kids now are starting to see that there's a lot of fighters who like go on to make like a successful, like job, almost like if me mcconnell and patty barnes, kurt walker, time mccarthy from spanish it's just this era alone has just got an opportunity to turn pro, where we never really had it before.
Speaker 1:Kids are starting to see us on tv which we've never really seen before, apart from, like, maybe, brian mcgee in mcgee, you've seen the odd fighter here and there wayne mccullough, carl fronton but like, if you look from Kyle Frampton, rambert, and that right through to now it's the amount of boxers from Belfast for being such a small place on TV and an opportunity for kids to see, like that's what I want to do, that's what I want to do, that's what I want to do. And then they're form at another age and like it's almost becoming like it's like full time for them. Aye, 100%, that shouldn't be full time.
Speaker 2:You should just be out there enjoying it, because what?
Speaker 1:happens is you get to a certain age and you've sickened yourself. It's like this is doing my head and there's too much commitment involved in this aye, and you're missing out so much where I didn't. I just fucking havoc with her land. And then what age are?
Speaker 2:you now 32 so I'm 28. Like so, fucking, only what 3-4 years difference. Like I see, growing up back in the day, like I remember when I was like, say, 13, 14, fucking 2008, 2009, you could still like there was still a load of stuff you could get away with that you couldn't get away with now.
Speaker 1:I can't get enough of that, because the kids just pull their phones out.
Speaker 2:I'm at 100% fucking mad like.
Speaker 1:You see a woman. They were seeing this comment, they were there. It's funny, like, but it's 100% true. It was a girl in the city centre. You obviously see it. She's in a wheelchair and a rat jumped on her and bit her in the city centre. Did you see it? No, I didn't see it in the turn. She's in a wheelchair, a paralyzed woman, and a fucking big rat jumped on her and bit her. Someone started recording her instead of helping her, instead of helping her, and she's like squealing. She's paralyzed, she can't get the rat off her and throwing her back. So it bit her. So I was on the telegraph reading all like the telegraph, instagram or Facebook people. It was reading all the comments and everyone's like saying why not have her?
Speaker 1:and people are going it's so funny because I can't like. It's just people from Belfast. They're all fucking lunatics and they're like writing back. Well, what would you do if a fucking rat jumped on someone? I'm sure you're hardly going to lift it and someone's going well.
Speaker 2:I'm going to at least try and help. There'll be some mob out there that would lift it.
Speaker 1:I'd lift a rat. I'm just going to cast. That's a mad old one, my wife says to me last night see if I fucking, because she's saying like the council made a statement saying we're overrun by rats. Now because of it, she says like the council had like made a statement saying like there's fuck all like we can do.
Speaker 1:The city centre has now become overrun by rats invested with rats, so like all, we can't fucking control it. Aye and uh, I'd say most major cities in the world are overrun by rats, like. But um, my missus says Sean, save a fucking rat. Like like she started last night. She says to me, see if we, uh, see if, like, there's any rats knocking about this house, like it's not a chance. It's like, well, I'm not having rats running about this house, maybe we'll have to be rats running about this house, says the council. Come out with a statement, luke, saying that Belfast is overrun by rats, me all this city's sad.
Speaker 1:I'm not a player you fucking racket, I'd rather have a rat, I know what I'd rather. I says see next door.
Speaker 2:She says, no, they've got a dog.
Speaker 1:I said I don't give a fuck, I won't ask the owner for something. You can get a dog too, as well. Dogs do the job Because you can bring a dog, that goes like rat hunting. I used to do that. I would have done that, no sweat.
Speaker 2:See, like when we were overseas, there in Lebanon, see all of our like, say like our outpost and our main camp dogs and rats you could stick a fucking saddle on it and fucking ride it in the battle.
Speaker 1:They're massive.
Speaker 2:They're fucking massive Like I don't know what they're fucking.
Speaker 1:See when you get a chance there, go on. Look, I want to see a CSS rat in Belfast, but that's it. Honestly, you can see a photo of it, your woman. It's just like she can obviously tell she's just panting, she can't move, and there's.
Speaker 2:Do you ever see him pulling moves Fucking?
Speaker 1:shit. He hits the road and goes fucking chips are race lads. That's a cute crack. And he lifts up his shoulder go get that the fuck Pulling moves is.
Speaker 2:see, and I think about my childhood, that's right, like I was only probably fucking six, seven, eight when pulling moves came out. But any time I think of my childhood.
Speaker 1:I just think of Paul and Moose. A few of my mates were actors in that. So they were. They were actors in that. I was like there was a couple of them when they got married. I think it was Tav was a good married and they were in the. Sarsen, and they were all filming the Stone.
Speaker 1:Jump because a couple of my mates were filming the Stone Jump because it was filmed in Turf Lodge, a lot of it. So we hung around them sets all day, like all day. It was just cameras everywhere, all like for like six, seven, eight weeks. Oh fuck me, we were getting tortured. We just had to fucking bring a load of kids in for actions they get paid.
Speaker 1:Aye, don't know what they get paid like, but they definitely get paid for it, because then I remember it was really as good as beating a pick. They just picked out like four or five random people and then bypassers, and all were getting it and they were going come on.
Speaker 2:I miss my acting debut. Was it 2004 or something? So I went to my and they were going round the doors in my area for man About a Dog. Oh no way See. The virus started when fucking Ciarán Nolan had the fucking van shop and he ended up fucking rolling down the hill and he's fucking page reading I'm your Woman on the sofa. All my mates were the ones running in to rob the shop, oh wow.
Speaker 1:And fucking, I missed it, you missed it, fuck me, I've heard. Still fuming. That would have been the off day of Flair. That would have been, me, one of the greatest Irish films ever what do you think is the greatest Irish film ever? Fuck the greatest Irish film. I would say, um fuck, that's a good question. It's a tough one it's a tough one, um fuck. What do you call it? 50 Dead Men Walking. 50 Dead Men Walking.
Speaker 2:50 Dead actually Walking 50 Dead Men Walking 50 Dead. Actually, there was something in there the other day. It's really Fucking class.
Speaker 1:There were a few. Fuck, that's a good question. Tom McKenna would be.
Speaker 2:Mary Kelp. The Mary Kelp, Mary Kelp's good show Aye the Mary Kelp's up there.
Speaker 1:Mary Kelp's good for the, for the films that were made here. They're all fucking class. No, like I've never seen. Sometimes when you watch stuff from Belfast you get a wee bit cringy. I never get like that with films here. I would go like you get locked in on it because you can near enough relate everything it's about, even the banter, the funny stuff like Malibu Dog or even like Paul Moves the series. You can relate to it rather than being like fuck, that's cringy but it's not. You mean Marley's you mean Marley's?
Speaker 2:that's one of the good that's proper.
Speaker 1:Like that replicates Belfast in the early 80s, 90s, 100%. Or late 80s, early 90s, like big time. That was way to our flaws. Honestly, going up probably still is no respect. I've talked over, you've talked over. I've stood up. Sean will come OC.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:OC, the arena on the arena. So everyone knows a crack everyone knows fuck what was going on.
Speaker 2:That's exactly what it was growing up.
Speaker 1:It was just fucking chaos stolen cars just like three, four, five and eight just getting fucking thrashed around the arena.
Speaker 2:It was madness see, I can't remember anything like that. Well, Hardine, Hardine, when I was growing up was just see, bar the 12th. The 12th was like the 12th was always, always chaos. But see, being a kid, you kind of buzzed off all that, it was kind of like the 12th was coming up and you're seeing all this madness.
Speaker 1:And then you're getting older and you're starting to try, man, all the shit they got there. That's what happens. We actually used to come over from Westover to Ardoyne on the 12th and all that. A couple of my mates could scoop they done timely, did they Aye?
Speaker 2:Probably that year they brought out all the faces and all the stuff they got there.
Speaker 1:At the year four. My mates went. One of them done one, got four years, done two and the other three got three years and done a year and a half and then a year and a half from license. One of them know what happened. A load of my mates hijacked the bus and one of them got on the bus with no mask on and the camera on the bus caught him.
Speaker 1:So weeks later they were reviewed the siege. They burnt the bus like, but the the camera didn't burn, so they got the footage from the camera and he got scooped, shattered, done fucking. And then here he was the quietest person. Like he was the one the quietest people, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He was at at an instant.
Speaker 1:He didn't even know to cover himself up, he just jumped on a bus and fucking scooped done, as they do here two years for the high shattered suspension as well, aye because he'd done two years and then two years. He had to do two years and eight since because he because he would have got done for hijacking as well, as well as Rattus behaviour and everything else came with it.
Speaker 2:So fucking stupid like see the stuff we used to get off to. We used to. So Ardoyne Road there was Glenburn, which is a Protestant area, had going down it like in the toilet. So we used to put out barricades to stop model taxis because mallow was the the boy selling one. And we and like when they used to stop used to break them and see you and say now you go to yourself. I was like I we bought theirs. But one time I was um down in york and there's a wee sports shop, say tesco's, just like a wee fun independent sports shop, and went in I saw on the sale record there was like a Linfield top for a fiver so I goes, I goes, fuck right out of here, I'll get that there, got that there, and I worked in Ardoyne.
Speaker 2:But I says, right here, we'll stand on the road when the taxi comes past. I'll be like, fuck, here, we'll stop, we'll go, we'll go fucking. Well, obviously not supposed to be in Ardoyne and they'll fucking have to stand on the road and all the older hoods saw me from Ardoyne and they thought I was a prod. So they all fucking charged and they gripped me up and had me against the wall and I was fucking, I think. I'm from Ardoyne.
Speaker 2:I'm from Ardoyne but, the stuff you used to do. I think it's it's only when you start to get older. Like I got involved in youth work through our city. It's a like a group, it's Ardoyne, shankill, clannard and I ended up going on to do youth work like as a job and stuff like that there, but through like I think if I didn't go on that there, I probably still would be not a wee bother like that, but wouldn't have changed many probably because we had loads of stuff, like it was.
Speaker 1:We had loads of community things. I was like barred from a lot of stuff, like just from. Like just I was just anti-social behavior. I was like growing up like just fucking terrible anti-social behavior and like I said I would look back and go like what was I doing? Like what, like why? But the reason why I'm saying that now is because they like they make community groups change my mindset to look after the community rather than terrorise it. I was fucking burning stuff and burning cars and fucking like motorbikes, like fucking stealing everything like motorbikes and everything and this fucking racking place.
Speaker 1:And I wasn't doing it like stealing them in the area, but like all my mates were like going out of the area, going over to like fucking holy lands and all still driving home and fucking all that.
Speaker 2:Carry on and burning stuff and do you ever do runners back in the day, fucking flat out black taxi was when he won taxi.
Speaker 1:He went to turf floods, up from the term. He used to go out and leg it straight and lift it because there was so many alleyways in Turf Lodge. So that was it, just straight down an alleyway anywhere you went.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, see like em, like, see them areas like that. They're like turf and say like Divotist and all around New Lodge, just them, we alleys it was like amazing, like if you weren't from that area, you were fucked, you were never getting out, never cast anyone dangerous doing it on the black tax.
Speaker 1:Eh all that provis all provis geties, you know you know fucking we actually done one of them five years ago it was Thompson's. We got a taxi from Thompson's, all dropped out did you have a plan? Nah, I was like we're training up and so I'm going to bed. So I'm here naked. We're like in the back snake half to the morning, really.
Speaker 1:I was people make you. Really we're sitting back on gpm. When I last went I don't know me for one someone says well, there's no role for love. We're all black. Me, I go ahead and we will let no more. Common all me much is it made noise a freak or something, and some of my black and me, I go ahead. And we went and we're cracking my and all. How much is it, mate? And I was like 40 quid or something. And someone went go ahead, we'll go 10 or 8. And I had two shirkins and I opened the door and I was like 40 quid.
Speaker 1:I remember after one of my fits before we Now we were in Luxor something and we were going to Caffrey's and it was like December time and it was raining and there was no taxis nowhere and I was like mate, we walk like round towards where the merchant is with a taxi sitting there and we're like mate, throw us up a road, just up the falls road. He was like up to Caffrey's. He was like no, mate, nothing about that, mate, please, I've got something about that. And then me said I'll come five minutes, we throw us up. And he was, see, you'll see them, see them making all them something about right now in the front, mean, suppose I'm gonna be free.
Speaker 1:Quite, I know one of my mates. Well, we've a recording at the high go ahead. Any query charges abroad was for was held for square needs, just abroad me for me, literally from where merchant is of the cavity must talk on phone and sad nuts was it worth it though, for wasn't worth it though it was worth it, and at that stage you don't give a fuck because you're free.
Speaker 1:You'd pay a hundred quid, you know you'd be probably email ran.
Speaker 2:Look on e-studio, see what the address is. What's the crack?
Speaker 1:with your fights fucking looking his face everywhere he'd be looking. He'd probably email Ryan looking at his studio to see what the address is.
Speaker 2:He'd be standing what's the crack with? Like your fights like are you fighting again or?
Speaker 1:I am. I've obviously had a nightmare with fucking fights. Just my last one from that was last April, that's nearly a year ago, like. But we were sort of holding out for something big. I got offered to fight on a show in November last year and it wasn't really a big fight. It wasn't great money there, to be fair. It was just me getting back in. But it wasn't even getting back in because it was still a tough fight. I was fighting a Mexican and the money was shit for who I was fighting. So I just knocked it back. The reason being is because it was after the massive fight just before it for like a world title. So I was thinking like fuck me, I'm going to get that fight here. I can't stab him.
Speaker 1:It was in Saudi Arabia, but he pulled off the show. I felt. I felt I was going, maybe it'll happen later in the year, early next year. So hold it. It never happened. So when the new year came, it was just my manager early it says let's get the head down and just fucking anything comes I'll take it um, and we've just been asking everyone anyone to fight me?
Speaker 2:hopefully you get on this um with crock and donovan I was hoping to get on that, or isn't he?
Speaker 1:but it's fucking hard because matching one like I'm a free agent, I have no, no promoter, I have only a manager. Right, so matching don't want me to fight one of our fighters because it doesn't make sense for them, because I'm like a banana skin for one of their fighters that they've invested in to fight me and then they're getting nothing off me 100% of the time. My manager, I'm near sure I have a big fight in August. It was due to be June. I fell through because of broadcasting reasons. The Zone can't film or can't film it or can't video it on the on June when it was initially meant to be. So it's looking like it's going to be put back to August. I'm near sure it's confirmed for August now. So I'll probably do a six rounder here in the next fucking weeks, just to get food back in.
Speaker 2:What like is your camp 12 weeks in just?
Speaker 1:I'm training every day anyway, like I was away doing that high rocks and I always keep myself tickled.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was good like right, I had nothing against high rocks at all, don't but see people that, like their personalities are down like high rocks people are just like I think it's the fucking dog's balls and that's it.
Speaker 1:Like Hyrox mentality. I don't train for it. I don't do Hyrox classes, I don't do anything, I just showed up. Ah, I just do it. My coach, pete Taylor, is Hyrox affiliated His wife. They train for it all the time just because he get Scooby Buzz out of it. He's asked me to do mixed doubles with his wife. I went down. I was sweat. I wasn't training for a hierarchy. Now I've gone to Jim Coe and trained with Paul and he does the hierarchy classes and he's he's brilliant at what he does. People love it.
Speaker 2:That's their wee thing, but see, for me it's just something that I enjoy, really competitiveness not taking away from it, because it is see for the people that are competing at the good levels. I think it is seriously. It's just that I don't know it just came out of nowhere the last 12 months, it's just but see when I went to Malaga I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:I couldn't believe my eyes. I was like this place is fucking buzzing the amount of people from every walk of life and they're like are people well overweight? They have people in their 60s.
Speaker 2:There's people I think that's what's good about it.
Speaker 1:It's just like it really suits general pop. Whereas like crossfit is very like, it's very technical. There's olympic lifting involved. It's very technical for general population. I'd say to get involved in crossfit you near enough need to be an athlete yeah, I mean what I mean whereas like High Rocks you don't. So it gives everyone an opportunity to get involved in. But like there definitely is a High Rocks mentality where people walk around and think like we're High Rocks, we're fucks, you can fuck off.
Speaker 2:I don't know like that but it's see, just a, I ain't gonna on the rest of the air because like one of my mates, dackey, he owns Fithouse on the Antrim Road, so him, sean and Ronan and they all compete and stuff like that. The guy thinks class and they've built a real good community as a gym and stuff like that there. But see just the three bags and the patches I know there's no need for that.
Speaker 1:I walked through the airport and I was like, oh fuck. Even on my way home I was like what rejects? Like just like, fuck me. Like, alright, you've done Malaga, they've got all these wee sticks in Malaga. Dublin, glasgow. I ain't going like I'm just one of you, like alright, fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty on outreach like how much did you pay? I didn't pay for sushi.
Speaker 1:I paid for it. I don't even know how much it paid, but I think it's like 130 quid or something, a hair roughly. And I asked for a woman at the very end of it, one of the wee women. I was like how many people competed this weekend? She says it's just over 18,000 in one weekend and I went what? 18,000 people?
Speaker 1:fuck me, that's serious money that is it and they're like me and Spencer is puma, they've got it. They tell you like the way it's organised, they can't fault them and that like it's just so fucking organised they've got. Like the way every station's done, the way the run's done, the way they have like traffic lights near enough going where, like when you want to walk from station to station, it's like traffic lights, so when you don't interfere with the roads, you don't interfere with any stations people do take it serious.
Speaker 2:I saw the one who won trying to think it might have been. See Malga the Copenhagen one. I might think it was some American guy and he was giving it like he crossed the line and he fucking gave me like spit.
Speaker 1:And all people do be people be like banging you away, take a pass and you're like fuck get away.
Speaker 2:Did you say anything to David Silva?
Speaker 1:I was calling him and he wasn't even turning around and I was like no, what happened? He was competing the day, I wasn't competing. He was competing on the Saturday, I was competing on the Sunday. So I was like fuck. I was like he pissed on me.
Speaker 2:I showed him his Instagram.
Speaker 1:I was like, look at that, he's a fucking, because I support man City. And I was like, look, that's fucking David Silva he's like. And he was like, fuck, I wasn't wanting to be fucked. I was like, and then he was running around me, david emlich. And then he run around again me a is him. I just called him silva, so he wasn't around. Next next time he's running around, david, but with uh, like a spanish accent. They wouldn't turn around. And then I got the phone out and I filmed them running around and they just. But then I was like, once he finished, I'm gonna try and make my way over the finish line.
Speaker 1:But I can't get into where the finish line was because I didn't have the right wristband, fuck's sake. It was gutted when I got a photo with him too.
Speaker 2:Fucking did you ever watch that Mad City film, jimmy Grimble?
Speaker 1:back in the day, jimmy Grimble, the automatic boots. That was fucking quality, quality show, wasn't it fucking brilliant and you need him.
Speaker 2:I'm not the same and he.
Speaker 1:Oh, brilliant, fucking, powerful. It's basically a city when, like a small club, like in United, were massive. What had you support to him? My dad supports him. Don't know why he supports him, but I just Like he's always supported me so from when I was in old age.
Speaker 1:I just supported the city, my brother's supporting United, because all the uncles On my mass stage Supporting United and they took Emmons away To a United match and they were like sad. And then it yeah, and they went over and met fucking oikine and eric can't not all and got their top sound and then they can burn it and this you have the last laugh now oh, that's it. I don't know about neither if they're getting the tape on it as well.
Speaker 2:The interesting cc just in the summer here. What exactly the?
Speaker 1:rebuild is like because I'll show you what what like it'll give you. Because people always have this thing where Pep Guardiola is like oh, I'm sure he's getting teams handed to him. He's had to rebuild realistically, even the Aguilera City team, but they were all done. When he came, like Gail Clancy Nazareno, he got rid of all Emmons, brought in all new players and then he cleaned up.
Speaker 2:Now he's going to have to redo it again with new players do you think it's going to be a quick transition or it's going to be over a few seasons?
Speaker 1:I'd say it has to be quick because realistically there's no time for any manager.
Speaker 2:I know it's just like fucking. He's unsackable.
Speaker 1:I know he's unsackable nah, he can't sack him, it's impossible to sack him.
Speaker 2:You need instant results he's like.
Speaker 1:I think he has an influence on players, like bringing players in yeah no, like City's already at half four at the minute. See, if City didn't get half four, that's a big blow, but I don't believe that it would stop City from sending players because of Pep Guardiola, obviously because of wages and all that kind of whereas, like United and all they're fucked.
Speaker 2:See United are. They're putting out all these things and, like Jim Radcliffe said, they're building a new stadium. They're doing all this and I'm like where are you getting the?
Speaker 1:money because they're fucking skint. They're spending seriously on players as well and getting nothing in return.
Speaker 2:I think they owe like 86 million this year from players they've signed like three years ago. Insane. So like there's, like I think, and then pain and stomp and stuff like that because you're always in debt, aren't you? You're just living in debt. Aye, it's like it's fucking, especially now. Like if they don't say make, like if they win the Europa League which I seriously don't think they will, but you know what I mean that gets them in the Champions League.
Speaker 1:But it's just, you need his luck they would finish 15th and in the Europa League, and then back in, again, and back in. I thought it just goes to show you there's just gradually, every season have just went, got worse and worse and worse and worse, and it's like it's hard. I don't even know if it's fixable now.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't even call it a scene now. I don't even. I used to hate United. Being a Liverpool fan growing up, united fans were fucking no, there's no argument yeah, there's no argument.
Speaker 1:They're just like even their own supporters say they're shitting on them, so it's like it's not even worth arguing with them anymore. It's just like there's a shit in that set, like I used to. They're all coming out from the wee work and I was like fuck me, what have you been like?
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, alright, just be at City help me this I used to love of Richard Dunn Stephen Allen Alano.
Speaker 1:Alano was lethal.
Speaker 2:Giovanni.
Speaker 1:I remember when City sent him I was like fuck, city sent him to Brazil and I was fucking in my element, fucking Giovanni where was he from?
Speaker 2:like Thailand, martin Patro, martin Patro.
Speaker 1:Martin Patro up in there fucking 50 when he was 24. He was a ball yeah, he was like fuck and then say Craig Bannon as well, who just have your lad Johnson.
Speaker 2:Do you remember Michael Johnson?
Speaker 1:he came through series academy he was fucking. He had like end up with bird problems. He was lethal because I remember like tipping him to be like Gerrard, saying he's like very similar to Gerrard.
Speaker 2:He was down as a wonder kid like a football manager and stuff like that. I love my football manager. I know I fucking get sick fuck's sake.
Speaker 1:What a blow. I see now he played a testimonial. It must have been 10 years ago, say. I think he played a testimonial for the likes of Sean A Phillips or something like that, and he fucking Sean.
Speaker 2:A Phillips down the day he banged a.
Speaker 1:He struck a ball about 30 yards in the top corner. He was big. He was ping a ball and it did tap in though, like if you have a good reflux, it's always there, like, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Like he's had Anelka as well back in the day fucking Robbie Fowler. I remember Robbie Fowler at yous as well. Yeah 100%.
Speaker 1:Like he never nets Darius Wazell, worst signing City ever made, see Mille-Anne. City paid for him and he fucking scored like two goals the whole time he's had City, See he played my dad loves him, but my dad's going. He's fucking that scoring but he's making space for other strikers he can hold a ball up. He's playing well. He's fucking crap play for England.
Speaker 2:I know there was I think Euro 2004, they had Owen Prem, like Prem Owen Rooney coming through and Vassell Vassell he was in good company there, wasn't he.
Speaker 1:How does he creep in there?
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think even Robbie Fowler was still. I'd say that Taddy Sheridan could have done a job over. Fucking Vassell was Shearer a bit.
Speaker 1:Shearer was still playing did he retire 2000?
Speaker 2:no, I think he was later. No, the know the four England oh, fringland, I met him.
Speaker 1:I met him after Europe schools. He retired early as well, fringland see my dad's a Newcastle fan.
Speaker 2:I actually grew up a Newcastle fan until my man dad split, and then my man's Liverpool fan and she kind of drummed it in from there.
Speaker 1:I think, fuck, she did. They won their first trophy In fucking years and there were there was some turnout For the For the trophy, like that's classic. Geordies love it, don't they?
Speaker 2:See, I had like a wee thing Like Newcastle be my second team, where I like to see them do well, but To play Liverpool and Like Fucking it broke my heart. Because, PSG Earlier on that week and then losing that there and then I was like here, newcastle, but that's I know I'm not as bad, I think I'm not as better, because it's like at least your dad's helping me they deserve. They do deserve something like their fans.
Speaker 1:I just say jordys are full, they love it like they just they're they, they love it. Um, like my mate carl, he played for sunderland and uh, he like he was saying, like, if, like, if you're in Newcastle and they're out and they find out you're a Sunderland man or support Sunderland, he's like, fuck me, they hate it. It's fucking ridiculous it's proper like proper. They hate it.
Speaker 2:North East Derby. They hate it. They always say it's the biggest, like they think that that is the biggest derby in England.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's the biggest derby ever. I think it's just. There's nothing else compares there probably does in terms of like, like people say, celtic, rangers and all is big. Alright, it's only big because of like, maybe like fucking religious reasons rather than actual on the history.
Speaker 1:But like in terms of like fucking proper hatred for a team. It's like cause a lot of like, a lot of Saligan Rangers fans are good friends in Scotland. They're good mates, like they all. They all live amongst each other and stuff, like here where there's a debate. I lived in Glasgow and they're all like living amongst each other and it's like one Celtic. Oh yeah, I told you I know I was like, yeah, I ain't going fuck me, it's different over, but like I think in Newcastle it's the same, like they fucking they don't even be amongst each other. Like they hate each other. It's like two working class, proper working class or like cities.
Speaker 2:I remember speaking of Celtic and Rangers. I remember one of the first weeks that I joined the army. I was sitting there and it was a Sunday and we had like like day off. So I was just sitting watching the Celtic and Rangers match and my phone and a lad from like Danny Gottle, like obviously you're in the Irish army, so there's not much like for your, like your men, like you know what the crack is, came up to me and he goes. I don't know, I just call him you fucking idiot. Fantastic.
Speaker 1:I don't think anyone from would you get anyone like here we actually would do Sam Sam Smith big shout out to Sam Smith.
Speaker 2:He's my Amplitude Commander shout out to Lebanon and he's actually. He's like a Protestant from Dublin from Dublin.
Speaker 1:There is, there is. I was actually speaking to Pete Taylor telling me I knew it existed, but it was just like they're obviously not really interested in that way it's just up here. It's just fucking backwards.
Speaker 2:Like up here. I do like up here is meta. It's got a it's history and stuff like that there there. But I generally love belfast. I don't know what it is the people of belfast.
Speaker 2:We have a mad history, but see just the people of belfast in general, I think no matter where you're from, like, just if you're a good person, you're a good person you're a good crack and the banter all is good like, no matter what 100% like it's your own, like it's a own kind of mindset, yeah, which can be good or bad depending on on what way you apply yourself, yeah, but I think I guess place as well, especially seeing how it is like there's so much. There is so much going on here as well and it's great to see, ah, it's great everyone.
Speaker 1:So I think at the like at the minute, it's probably like I think we're probably more like taking back, better, because like how well we're doing at the minute, because the old negativity it goes around like from years and all the years like how much growth we've got, even in terms of like we're talking about the old week. It's like acting like the minute the good actors come in here, like I'll go boiling off flying and like fucking the one guy I've been trying to get a hold of I want him is that him I'll, I speak, and then he won't do it.
Speaker 1:He says to me he says he won't do it because of he doesn't do interviews or nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because of like he says I've got a paper in the PD and I was like respect it. But I see, when I text, I knew like because I didn't want to right, but like I knew that there would have been like probably 40 other podcasters like they're trying to get him, trying to get a hold of him, and I know that about everyone, like Nick Kemp and all like I've spoke. I know women. They went to my school Nisha I know Nisha very well. I know Liam Woke very well spoke to Nisha personally. He said he would do it, um, but his dad died at that time. I just I just left him to it, um, but asking him, he's probably like people have probably contacted him.
Speaker 2:Everyone's asking.
Speaker 1:So I know that. But I'm only asking Nisha on a personal level because I know him on a personal level. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So if you say I know the Shane, like what chance do we have? I know exactly. That's what.
Speaker 1:I mean so if because, like my missus throws out, like she's brilliant, julie as well, their class for, like, emailing people and giving people a shout out at the moment and going like to my missus, but they haven't done one before, or if anyone I know. So, if they haven't done one with Shane or haven't done like, I'm 100% certain that Shane has probably reached out to him on Wednesdays and asked him to come on and they haven't done it. So it's like, well, if you don't try, I don't like you've been relaxing, I'm forgetting, I'm like I know, but like, what's the chance? Like you don't know, they might know who you are. Maybe they're just a fan of you would never know. Um, it's, it's good that she has that good mindset. That's like her. That's because she's a tv producer, yeah, and she has to do that for her job, so it's good that way, just have her there and can't.
Speaker 1:That's it like I've seen one where, like I can't remember who it was, but someone reached out to someone like really fucking famous, just randomly emailed him personally and he came back and said, yeah, dude, no sweat, he's like, really, he's like, oh yeah, I'll come down, dude, and he just went and done a podcast with him. It was fucking remember who that was yeah, it was some lad he emailed Jimmy Carr. Oh, jimmy Carr.
Speaker 2:I thought it was he got Jimmy Carr's personal email yeah. And Jimmy Carr was like yeah, like wearing suits, and the guy was like literally, tell me a day.
Speaker 1:So he went down and rented a studio and did a podcast with Jimmy Carr and he just got massive off of back then.
Speaker 2:So like has anyone asked?
Speaker 1:you for money, yet nah has anyone asked you for money we asked, we asked Colin Best. Come on For money.
Speaker 2:He said like two grand each 15 minutes. Then Fuck's sake, what?
Speaker 1:Fuck's sake, lad, I'm only on the break. I'm only on the break. I'm only on the break. I'm only on the break.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking taking hits doing my podcast. I know fuck's sake, but I had a great plan for like with Aldo Boyle.
Speaker 1:So I put up a thing just going day one. Oh, I tagged him every day until he I seen that actually and I was doing.
Speaker 2:I was going right. I'm going to Paris next week, I'll do one at the Eiffel Tower, and then I'm going to New York the week after I'll do one. That fucking the Empire State or something got there, I was fucking raging.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, I know that's what happens, but it's like like you have to see if he I understand it. In a way that's why I was like no, no, I respect it. Good man, and he was nice enough to reply. He was like it's like see if he does one, that's it, the floodgates. So I understand that for a lot of people that haven't done them before, but like that's why it's fucking so hard. And then see, now do you feel like? I see? I feel like there's just so many podcasts now loads of people are just doing and it's like, fuck me, what chance have you got here?
Speaker 2:that's what I was saying there before you came in. So I started my hands up last Feb, last Feb through to say fucking September, there's more that keep coming up, but they all have their own wee different nieces of Paddy's and Williams and Colin and stuff like that. They've all got their. It's the comedy scene but mine is different to yours. Yours is different to the working class pub and then Connor Quinn's, the corner they're all different and they all's the Connor.
Speaker 2:They're all different and they all can offer their own entertainment, which is really really good like the a working class pug has one see the dumb one with your mom, patsy, and he says oh, fuck, yeah, I need off. And he goes what do you do today, big son?
Speaker 1:working. That's what I mean. Like some of my clips Are fucking class and it's like it's different entertainment From different people, isn't it Like it's people that have an interest In probably watching Working class. People are, like they call it working class. None of them. Half of them Haven't got a fucking job. But it's funny Like the clips are funny.
Speaker 2:Did you see their Patreon, the levels of their Patreon? So it's three pound Working, £6 middle class and then £9 fucking upper class and I was like that's fucking, that's fucking Jesus.
Speaker 1:But, like I said, they're fucking, they've got to be the way they've done. It is good because it's a different approach to it 100% they do it on phones as well.
Speaker 2:They just do it like on the phones for fucking low budget.
Speaker 1:Like just low budget. Just go on dead, like fucking I think so.
Speaker 2:We have a sponsor. Now. We got sponsored by our kings. There was thank god, we did just because you needed to get by or fuck. We're like we spent me and my cousin have spent six grand of our own money just on on the podcast so far.
Speaker 2:And then we got the sponsor and people don't really see that they're like. We approached a few people for sponsorship. Um, some got back, some didn't. And then Mark Weir shouted to Mark just because without him and his sponsorship we probably wouldn't be able to do the amount of what we're doing now, like yeah, I know 100%.
Speaker 1:It's a big like because people don't realise like. It's not like you don't make money off it no, I mean, you don't make money off it like killing.
Speaker 1:They sponsored me, they helped me out with the killing studios and then obviously Praise Guy as well. It's like it's fucking. It's a big help. Otherwise you couldn't do it. You couldn't sustain that spending your own money every fucking week. It wouldn't make sense because you have to understand people go like what do you want to achieve out of it? I don't really know what I want to achieve, I just want to enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I just have the crack.
Speaker 1:I'm enjoying it. I'm getting to meet new people, I'm getting to hear new stories and I'm fucking getting involved in it. And, on top of that, it wasn't even something that I really wanted to do until loads of people started telling me you should do it Like I've done Shane Todd's podcast and the amount of people stopping me going. You should do your own one, you should. I went on for ages and ages and the opportunity popped up and I just done it.
Speaker 2:Everything just fucking ended up.
Speaker 1:It just ended up. But, as I say, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't have done it if it wasn't for sponsors, because it wouldn't be just paying me all money, like I ain't going to get puns in the hair every day just to do a fucking pay to do a podcast, and never get the fuck. And it's just outgoings and it's the sponsors cover my outgoings and that's it.
Speaker 2:So that's what I say to my videographer and my cousin Jerry. I just say if we don't make a turn for the first two years, as long as we can actually just make enough money to fund the podcast fund the shooting and stuff like that there because the podcast is metal.
Speaker 2:I started this last year with just I like my first guest was my mate Dackey and he's like he owns Fithouse now, but he was in jail for he got a four year sentence, served fucking two, so had him on. I was like fuck yeah, he's a great story and stuff. I got there and then fucking a few like the guy, I watch you on.
Speaker 2:TV Tommy and Trona. I've watched them. It's Shane and I'm sitting like fucking like sitting on a podcast with him and he's just like it's fucking mad the way it's snowball, the snowballs, that's it.
Speaker 1:It's just a wee, like a damn little fact. But like, what is your goals? What do you want to achieve with it? Like, is there anything like specifically you?
Speaker 2:want to do a live. I was approached about a live show, but I just don't think our reach and our audience is worthy enough. Well see, not like worthy enough, but big enough to actually warrant a live show. So see, this year it's just expansion, expansion. More influence. Try to gain more followers, more followers, more viewers and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:You're consistent trying to fucking we are trying to go down that road, of which I like I want to do is tell actual stories of, like real people with real struggles and overcoming things. So I want to start a thing called conflict and conversations yeah so it's going to be people, stories from the troubles, stories from people that have been say um, there's a fella, I know who's been in Afghanistan. Like, get him in. Like people have been all over the world suffer from different fucking traumas and shit.
Speaker 1:I had a therapist on here, emmett Emmett Water. He was brilliant. He was the same like he. He obviously grew up on like fucking Logan Street or something on the Falls Road and then he moved. He lives in the shackle now and he's like, he's a therapist and he overcome drug addicts and my drug addicts and he traveled all around the world. He's been to like thailand and he's been everywhere around the world doing all these different like therapy things and then he was breaking over. He was one that's waiting and come back on the drugs again and just, but now he's a therapist and he's fucking his friend. So like, see, for me talking to him it was new, but it was. It was enjoyable. It was an enjoyable conversation to see and it's like refreshing to see someone overcome that shit, because when you know so many people who's going through that yourself, like me going through vlogs there's very few of my mates that aren't going through that. Very few of them.
Speaker 2:They don't come to the odd and and it's like refreshing to hear and I'm like my head's classic one class areas, especially like everyone goes to see something which I'm realizing with, like our podcast like mentality monsters see the stories that you actually get the most learning from. They're the ones that get the least amount of views and it baffles me. It's just because the people may not be as well known as other people, but I'm sitting there just going.
Speaker 2:I want everyone to watch this episode, because they're gonna be like fuck me, that's class we can take something away from it.
Speaker 1:It's beneficial. Do you like? 100%? People don't wanna. Like people don't wanna. It's almost like investing like a wee bit of education for themselves, because it's only time, only investing time in it. It's not like squashing any money, but you can take something away from it.
Speaker 2:Then it's like fuck, copy this Like I'll fire. Like like I was in the sauna.
Speaker 2:I was fucking challenging myself to do 40 minutes in the sauna, so I fired on the one with Paddy with Rory and just sat there and was just like, like he was talking about fucking tricks of guard and now and stuff, I got a third change in Muay Thai and I like there and I was sitting going, fuck you, that's actually like, it's so true, the stuff that they're actually talking about. And, like you, do take a wee bit away from every single thing that you listen to see if I can listen to something or watch something and even take fucking 1% of what they say on board like it's, it's growth.
Speaker 1:It's growth, isn't it? It's growth for yourself and it's like fucking what and it'll stick in your mind for whatever you're doing, it comes up challenging, like other people are going through. Everyone who's successful has been through a struggle. You know what I mean. Like there has to be a struggle with success and it's like strong character needs to be forged, like you it through fucking privilege or anything you're always you always have to go through something challenging to get.
Speaker 1:That, yeah, 100% it's like like there's fucking times, like there's just there's times. Myself, I'm like fuck, I can't be fuck where's where, I can't be fuck right, and it's like this is doing my head on. It seemed like my like my bird chain taxed this. I'm like gonna be full of taxing this person. I know I'm not gonna get none in return, but like it's negative for me.
Speaker 2:I had to remind myself.
Speaker 1:Like what friends. I'm like the what, but I'm gonna say no, so what ah? And it's like I can't read no sweat like tax tax, just tax people you get people that do want to help you as well, like that's one thing which I've released with a realised with the podcast game.
Speaker 2:Here people are willing to help you and people are willing to fix a shame.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Shane's brilliant. Shane's brilliant for, like my first act was always like no sweat mate, not come on, don't need any help, he's fucking very good that way he came on for us the thing with us.
Speaker 2:We didn't kind of know anybody in the scene at all like we were just starting off just straight off, like for one of my mates, so slowly built up these contacts and stuff they got there. Shame was actually I did mail shane about four or five times I actually taxed him.
Speaker 1:Just now you're doing to me, but you don't like you reply within two minutes of me saying that I know he replied straight away but is there who's your, if you have like, is there someone who you're who's the most like? Who do you want to get on your podcast the most?
Speaker 2:so realistic, I'll do a realistic one and a one that a dream one, a dream one. So McConaughey Matthew McConaughey is my dream one. Paul Hughes and Anthony Boyle it'd be more realistic ones like Irish ones. Michael Fassbender as well. I think Michael Fassbender just think they can't do. Boyle I love to say nothing, but he was in that. Masters of the Air as well. Martin McCann actually as well hi Martin McCann.
Speaker 1:I've actually reached out to Martin. My wife knows Marty well very well he's away at the moment. He's well, whenever we that was a couple months ago, like he was about two months ago, because my wife done a documentary on his niece. She's like Black Black, black Bottom Judo or something. She's a Gaelgore, so they were. They were riding together and I'll do it, but I'm away. I'm away, he's in England or something seems to be busy he's doing that.
Speaker 2:There, blue lights at the minute as well, so, like you can understand, see what people they got there, but Paul Hughes for me. And Paul Hughes still haven't got a reply, have you not? But I will one day I will.
Speaker 1:I've actually it's very consistent. He's coming on here like he's coming on here um see, he's probably flat out.
Speaker 2:There's probably so many people on podcast as well now, so that's the first episode he was meant to come on for us before christmas.
Speaker 1:Um, he was in america training. He says I'm gonna come on before I go to fate and we're like great happy days. And then he stayed in america. He says, look, bro, because, like I used to train paul, we trained together for years, like all through coven though. And and he says, I'm staying on America, bro, I'll do it when I get back. And then when I get back and he says, look, I'm actually doing my own podcast, so I want to get that up and running for a couple of weeks now and I'll come on he's flat out like yeah, he's sick.
Speaker 1:I want to get him and Paul Harkin on together. Like, as you know, it's not my style, isn't like? Like I don't interview people, it's just, I just want people on the spot just conversating topics and just fucking talk about it. You know what I mean. But if I can get them on the air and they can just bounce off each other, you know what I mean yeah, 100%.
Speaker 2:It's not like I'm going to be talking about pure like MMA and I want. You've seen all the questions.
Speaker 1:It's just what's going on in the world. I'm getting a bit better at it.
Speaker 2:I know, hopefully no one clips that down I'm sitting there laughing. At the start someone done that to us. We had Paddy McLean on and Paddy was telling his oldest brother he says he's mental and he broke a fellas leg in football and your fella was supposed to go to Australia the week after and couldn't go to Australia. But we were already laughing about how mental Paddy's brother was and then your lad cut it right down on the twitter.
Speaker 2:Got like 180,000 views on twitter. People were mailing me, calling me a scumbag do you get much hate.
Speaker 1:Do you get much hate on it? Like from like comments? I get fucking like there's fake accounts on tiktok and all this writing shit. I'm like fucking grow up.
Speaker 2:I put up a video when I was in Lebanon just saying what the crack is with a podcast because I'm away. We'll still be releasing episodes, but within like two weeks instead of one week, and stuff I got there someone was commenting, going away, invading other people's countries and all and stuff they got there copying a foreign occupier and I'm just like I'm peacekeeping lad.
Speaker 1:I'm here to keep the peace. What actually happened before we finish on this. What happened? Remember? All the soldiers were trapped. The Irish was there? Irish soldiers trapped in Lebanon was that by the Israeli the Israelis and were you involved in that, or were you just in the area?
Speaker 2:aye, so we were. We were in the outpost, so the outpost only holds a platoon, so it's like 30 lads, yeah, out there. And then everyone thought the UN thought the Israelis were gonna make their push up north by the coast yeah, but they actually crossed the border first, fucking 100 metres away from us, oh fuck. So basically we didn't expect them to come through. And then their ground invasion came through where we were and no one could get through to us and we couldn't get out, oh so we were just basically trapped in there.
Speaker 1:It was kind of like a blockade yeah, but I was fucking. There was some buzz like I'm not joking was there any communication between the Israelis and the Irish soldiers, like amongst like?
Speaker 2:nah nah, it was just like we're, just we're just blocking us sorry so they were like like most of the stuff which I'm saying here is just stuff that you can read on like online as well, like but they were fucking doing a lot of firing which was very, very close to our, like our, position. So we would have the relay from the outpost back to headquarters, headquarters would have the liaise with the Israelis, so you would need to if you wanted to say something to the Israelis, we'd have to go through about four or five things, like four or five different people, before it actually gets to them.
Speaker 2:But I was. It was class, because I've always grown up watching World War 2 films and I loved the army and stuff.
Speaker 2:I got there and I was sitting there the entire time like I've got a. I have a partying past like before all this year, like I love the partying shit and I've fucking done everything under the sun, but I've never had a hit or buzz like the name the israelis invaded not joking, it was that's like one I'm probably like one of the main experiences you want to see in within the army irish army.
Speaker 1:You don't see. You don't see much because you're not really involved in war, rather than be involved in a war unless it's back in the proper days but we were stuck unless it's fucking back in the proper fucking RA days but we were stuck for fucking two and a half weeks or something.
Speaker 2:We got there, maybe three, I can't remember now the exact damn time we were there, but it was like fucking unreason packs fucking limited water, because we had a certain amount stored up in containers and stuff like that there and you couldn't really fucking like shave and shower and stuff like that there. So it was kind of it was like real soldier and I was just sitting there going. This is fucking like.
Speaker 1:People were sitting there like because of all the stuff in the new. You were buzzing of it, man.
Speaker 2:I was in the bunker, I was just whipping the laptop.
Speaker 1:Football manager and all the shit was going on. It's a blast and if anyone else is interested in the podcast scene, get on the Mentality Monsters.
Speaker 2:Mentality Monsters Paul.
Speaker 1:Hughes, you might even see my wee episode our most viewed episode mine is. Is it most viewed episode? Fuck me, it's good, it's perfect. That'll be this, but thanks for a.