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The Public Nuisance Podcast
Host Sean McComb interviews various guests
The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #022 “Bacon Rashers and A Coke” with Ryan Proctor
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome the owner of Killen Studios, Ryan Proctor to the podcast
We cover Starting Killen Studios, Going for a Pint, Old Punters, Taking the Kids to the Bookies, Reliving Childhood, English Rob, Feg Runs and much more.
New episodes every Tuesday.
Sean McComb
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The Public Newsness, sean McCann. Welcome to this episode of the Public Newsness Podcast, brought to you from Killin' Studios, right here, where you can get all your content on Photoshoots podcasts set up tailored to you. And here with us today, believe it or not, is the man behind the magic Producer Proctor. Producer, proctor.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just going to give up and name them myself here and here with us today.
Speaker 1:believe it or not, is the man behind the magic producer?
Speaker 2:producer I'm just going to give up naming myself here, I was thinking this morning how do I introduce myself? I was like normally you hear me off camera with the random facts. Yeah, anything needs thought about. To look my way and I'm probably seeing it on TikTok.
Speaker 1:You've got a face now for the man behind all the magic, behind all the magic, behind all the magic, because you always get like anyone that's come in, anyone that's ever come in here, has always gone. This is a class setup. This is a class we set up, isn't this class setup? Don't really think the cameras do, like, do enough justice for what?
Speaker 2:what's what you've actually got going on here like, but it's, yeah, I think like I get that from a lot of people because even like I have a friend that comes and records his podcast here and I remember the first time he came in he was like I wouldn't have thought like this was the room it was shot in yeah I think because we have, like the three camera angles and most of the time we use quite a tight camera angle between, like, both people speaking.
Speaker 2:And then because, with you and the kind of partnership that we have going on, like you have your own set that nobody else uses, so the only really dead giveaway is the paneling in the middle, like that never changes, but like everything else has changed around it. You know, even we're talking off air, like before, about the girls group chat now becoming like a partner as well and kind of hosting their podcast here and again with them. It was like, right, how do we make this set unique, do you? And I'd probably say like if you put your podcast beside their podcast and was like, is this shot in the same place, it'd be like I don't even know no like.
Speaker 2:So that was my whole plan, like with opening this because it's just over a year now, but I'd probably say it was about three years in the making was to create a space to come tell stories that's why it's named after killing, and I'll get into that in a second but to come tell stories, but also a place you felt was personal to you as well. You could come and tell as many stories as you wanted to and, as I said there, like it was named after, like killing, which is like my mother's side of the family, so like her maiden name was killing my grandparents they were killing, but my granda, patty, who was a legend on the lisburn road and I will say that always said the day of his funeral it'd be like a 12th of july because, like he would have in every bar up the lisburn road would have known him. Every book he's would have known him and uh like. Even we used to go to portstewart as well. This is a him and uh like. Even we used to go to portstreet as well. This is a complete sidetrack, but we used to go to portstreet like once a year and he would have went to the royal legion because they had a snigger table and get a pince and all yeah. And when I was older would have went there with him but they called him belfast patty because it just everybody knew him as belfast patty.
Speaker 2:But he was like on the Lisburn Road he was well known of and even the day of his funeral, like we went to Ryan's Bar after and they were going to tell me like that was his seat at the bar, like when he came in that was his seat. And another place we went to, which isn't there anymore, was the Windsor Snicker Club. It's now like a jiu see place but literally as soon as you walked in, like everybody's head turned as soon as you walked in because it was like who's coming into our club? But they were soon as seen it was him. It was like immediate banter, immediate stories, like it was great crack. But to come back to what it was, what I was starting the conversation with there, he was one of the best storytellers that I have ever seen like and obviously now with growing the business and going into marketing.
Speaker 2:I've heard a lot of people tell stories and a lot of people tell you how to tell stories, but he could literally make something up like that, like on teen stories in my granny's house. Where he literally would have made it up like on the day, like one that always springs to mind is I was up one weekend. I would have spent a lot of weekends at their house and I had brought like my WWE figures with me so I was playing with them. But my granny, that morning I thought she'd seen a mouse. So they lived in Donalys Avenue down kind of close to the bottom, near the near the train tracks, and she thought she'd seen a mouse that morning.
Speaker 2:So we were on the hunt for this mouse and out in the war my granda was like you know, I used to be a world champion, you know, and and wrestling, and I was like all right, granddad, where are you? Like I must have been about five or six or something, like we nipper. And he was like I was me and me and dick a door mouse. We were world champions and I was like it was only years later. I was like we were looking for a mouse and he goes dick. A door mouse, and even as well.
Speaker 2:He used to tell us casper lived up in the attic and all they lived in a wee cubby hole and he, uh, he fought in the second world war, but he was also sent away in the second world war, so he would literally just would have told stories remember was another one. Like he was talking about being in america and st patrick's day with his brother and they'd run into this cop or something. And he told this big story to me and morelli's and my granny was sitting there and when she was done she was like that didn't happen she was like you've never been the american sympathics day in your life and he was just like it's a good story, good story.
Speaker 2:So, anyway, that's why he was the main inspiration. Well, I think that side of the family was was.
Speaker 2:It was a big inspiration because I wanted to do something to honor them, because my first business like bread and butter at the minute was Procter Productions, so that was named after the other side of my family. But then when I was creating this it just kind of fitted into the purpose and everything else. And again, like, even during this process of like even having you on and the guests you brought in, like I'm texting cousins and all being like this person's coming in, like this person's coming in like. This is unreal.
Speaker 2:They're coming in and talking about granddad and granny, like because even if they're just saying killing studios like that's who they're talking about because I remember, like when shane todd was coming in it was like just before my 30th birthday I was up at my auntie's house. They threw me like a birthday party and all my cousins were coming in and being all very great.
Speaker 1:When shane coming in, like can we come down, can we?
Speaker 2:come down and then, whenever he was just like here and like he said about killings and all, I was like this is mental. Yeah like.
Speaker 1:For me that was a real like man. That's what you want out of it then.
Speaker 2:Yeah, obviously like to see that and see that yeah I think, for me definitely, like I even said, like, even like getting mugs with their names on them, like that meant the world to me like and I even have family members. Now I want mugs from the from the studio because it's like it all means.
Speaker 2:I think it has an emotional and a personal touch. To like all of that side of the family, um, and I think for me then it just gives me the drive to like one, not let their name down, but two, like the more people that come and use killings and include it in their conversation are including my granny and granddad and include it in their conversation, or include it in my granny and grandad and my mum in the conversation, which have all moved on wee Paddy O'Vee and his element.
Speaker 1:That's what I want literally see, if we could have got him in a podcast.
Speaker 2:Man word would hit.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's who Glenn was talking about slingering about in here.
Speaker 2:You know well apparently some wee old woman down in the front room had a hard time she had a hard time.
Speaker 1:It was very dark, she's gonna get harder.
Speaker 1:Don't start paying rent here in a second you know, fuck's sake, move out, get the coffee on, start doing some chores or something. Oh, mate, but I I know someone, a lot of people have a good like it's mad that people have such an interest in people who tell stories. Like that's probably why everyone knew your granddad and knew who he was just because of stories and the character like the character he is because of stories. I remember in school, even whenever I was like say, third, fourth year, fifth year, all the stuff I got up to on the weekends, like where all the lads messed about. I used to go into school and tell everyone about them and people used to gather around me in school at lunchtime like, oh, go, tell us more stories and all that stuff. Like people used to just take an interest in me telling stories. But like I wasn't making them up, but it was just what I got up to and how I told it. And people always go like you're a good storyteller.
Speaker 1:My dad sounds very, very similar to your granddad, patty, like that's what he does. He makes up shit because people like my. I put a video up with my son yesterday going to the park and he says I'll go in and get the ice cream. And I says, well, have you any money? And he says no, and I says, well, how are you going to get me ice cream then? And he says I'll go in and smash a window and grab the ice cream cone and put ice cream inside the cone and give it to you. And he says then you'll go to jail. And he says I'll just hit the cops a big kick on the butt or something like that. But like someone text me saying he's listening to your dad too much, because that's my dad just makes up stories of the biggest lot of crap, and even like some stories that are true yeah he'll add a whole big like swirl on it.
Speaker 3:That's not even true.
Speaker 2:Julie says I do the same. She's like you'll add wee bits in just for the dramatic effect and I'm like well, it was seasoned. I spent. I spent about 25 years listening to a man do it and I loved it. I think so.
Speaker 2:Of course I'm gonna do the same thing, but I think like oh no, like I say like yeah, he was like I think as well, like just his character, like you couldn't, he was one of these people that you couldn't rock, like you know, even if it was a couple of times like somebody you know, maybe in the bar, like he, couple of times like somebody you know, maybe in the bar, like he was never someone that seeked out trouble and trouble rarely found him.
Speaker 2:But you know, in a bar it's getting late on a Friday night, especially on the Lisburn Road, when you've got young ones and all coming in. And like there was somebody who was doing something and I remember just as quick he was like I'll put you on, like he'd almost try and make a joke out of it, like it wasn't the act tough, you know, and even as well. Like I remember hearing the first, like first time he swore like in front of me we were going to that windsor club and uh, we walked in and like I didn't really know what to expect because my first time going in. But he also knew like right, be on your best behavior, don't, like you know, embarrass your, your grand or anything you know, because we're going to go play snooker and all and it was. It was a big deal to me to go in there, but as soon as he walked in he was like right you old bastard you know I'm like right who's throwing hands like are we gonna start?
Speaker 2:fighting. Yes, I was like you know, we don't that's kind of language ends and you know. But that was just him, like everybody knew, just to take him as as, like you know, light-hearted and he just was there for the crack and he was just having a good time.
Speaker 2:I was taking his hair a pinch of salt, yeah, and I say like literally, like there was, like genuinely, and I know like my family, through listening to this will all agree with me like people just thought the world of him because of his character, because he was like he would walk into your room and whether it was telling a story would light the room up.
Speaker 1:Like Sorry to interrupt this episode, but I got to tell you about my sponsors that Praise, guy, fantastic work. Another millionaire, another millionaire, the ninth millionaire they've produced from here in the north of Ireland. Unbelievable work. They've got plenty of prizes. Get yourself onto their Instagram, check out what's at stake and get in the draw. Yeah, 100%, I don't really get. There's very few people now that just get like. It was always like a thing where people just go to a bar and were like I'm going to a bar lover, like my dad would still do it too like he goes to a bar. When we go to a bar. It's as simple as that. See, nowadays, like it's like if you go to a bar, they're a little punchy fucking to me about us going to a bar what I know.
Speaker 3:It's absolutely madness, like on a Wednesday like afternoon two o'clock.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go to a bar here actually no, even like yesterday.
Speaker 2:So I was in madden yesterday recording that podcast with them. It's a new series they're starting like I'm sure more will be well, more will be released, because we have a release date and stuff set in place. But I was going downstairs after we're done with we're done the podcast and then the band that we're getting interviewed on like a sound check. So in between that I had a wee bit of time before I had to start working again. So I went downstairs got a pint of guinness but there was some old boy in a suit and I was like one.
Speaker 2:You never really see that anymore, like people getting dressed up to go to the pub but then also, like I had a pint of guinness in my hand, he was like, oh, you're too young to be drinking that. And I was like sure, it's fully ironed, it's good for me. And he looks at me and he goes well, don't be having too much and I was like.
Speaker 1:That's literally about a million over the course of his life like I was, just like you don't get like that anymore.
Speaker 2:Like nobody else spoke a word to me, nobody else said nothing, and it was just him up here out of nowhere and was like just in a suit, absolutely bloated people go in the bars and sit in their own.
Speaker 1:People don't do it no more. But like like our lads, like that, would go and sit in the barn room, no problem.
Speaker 2:Sure, there was that old boy kept on appearing in Madden's literally, we were there at 10am and it's like he hadn't left the night before, although I didn't see him yesterday. So he must go home at some point we kept on back at it.
Speaker 2:But ranz would have been his local and like he literally would have like even when we were getting older and I might have went up and visit him and maybe we went then would have seen my granny would have had a bite to eat and would have went into the parlor then, because I sat in two different rooms he sat in the parlor and she sat in the in the living room and uh, we went into the parlor and would have been like we offer a couple of games of snooker. He's like right, give me 10 minutes. And he went upstairs, brush his hair, put a suit on and then came back down and then that would have been also way up to the windsor club or way up the rands for a couple of pints or whatever.
Speaker 2:But uh, you don't get it anymore, it's a completely different thing like, and I think I think for me personally it'll be sad a wee bit like because even like yesterday, julie had to run my laptop up to me and she had the kids in the car and I was like sure, come and bring the kids in, because that was like my childhood, like my granddad would have took me into every bar and the every bookies and that was almost part of like my upbringing, of like just seeing that and even as well, like I was speaking to somebody about it yesterday and they were like I go in, get a packet of bacon, rashers and a coke, because that's like part of the culture, like you just would have gotten there when you get older, maybe plate of chips, red sauce and a coke, and you were there for two, three hours.
Speaker 2:But it was great. Yeah, it was great, you loved it, it was great and I almost feel like, unless I do that with my kids, they'll never experience that and there are people listening, this being like they shouldn't experience it but I think being part of our culture?
Speaker 1:that's the way the world's going. But the world's just fucking soft man. It's just full of fucking. Like nothing's right, no more. Like, oh, you shouldn't be doing that, but everyone turned out all right. Like, you're all right, you've got a good job, you've got a good business going on, I'm all right, successful in boxing, I'm successful in what I do. It hasn't hindered my life. Yeah, and I was the same.
Speaker 1:My son. Now I bring my son in to see my dad. I bring him in to bar me sometimes if I want to go for a bit, he'd come with me. Simple as that. Um, and a lot of people go like he shoot me in the bar. Like I brought him to a bar. I brought him to a Sloan's the other day and he got. He came back out with 22 quid.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, I've had two packs of Pringles. I was like happy fucking days and like I bring him, I bring him in the town, shop him, or I mean with Dravila on the weekend and it's a nice day. I go, mum, we're wearing the fucking Bittles and John, john Bittle, doesn't mind me bringing him in. I go morning and he just fles about, goes up to the bar, brings him down and gets some pringles and all and like bar staff are always burning up with kids. A lot of bar staff are burning up with kids when they're just like come on, hey, get your pringles, and they give you that wee bit of peace and quiet and you're like happy fucking days and you're skull and pants.
Speaker 2:It's probably some of the best environments you'll be in, like like if you go to a pub, obviously, which is like what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's normally just good people in there, like there's no one going yeah, going for the crack, because most of the time it'll be regular punters. And if someone did come in and get rowdy like yeah, they'd be quick to say something or be quick to chuck them out. Like my grand there was the same and I even remember people saying to him like he would have bought me, he would have brought me into mclean's bookies and lisburn Road and he just would have sat me up on the bench as he was doing his horses or he was doing the football, and there would have been some people being like, ah, he shouldn't be in here. But then most were like leave him alone, it's alright.
Speaker 1:You're not allowed to have kids in at all in the bookies, no more. So if you're going to do a bad dad, you just leave, bring him in. I was like he's hardly going to do a bat, he's fucking three.
Speaker 2:He was three at the time and the girl was like a reason, man or something, wizard, wizard, and he just looks at the thing and he started writing started writing out favorites, and the one that I re-pinned over in his ear, the one that that's there was either video or manga at the horse club carpool cell
Speaker 1:there, it's not gonna be fair, no, but and then there was a girl come up and she just left her pram out. She must have been running the ice ladder or something and I was like fucking hell, it's just changing, probably changing for the best, in fairness, like but some people obviously being a factor, but who maybe? But I think it's. It comes from who you like. If it's in your family, if you're like, if your dad's a gambler, you're probably gonna, you're gonna be a gambler yourself. You know what I mean. You're gonna like. If your dad likes beer, you're gonna. You're gonna. If it's controlled drinking, it doesn't have to be like fucking, a lot of people who go and sit in a bar don't sit there. Like my dad would love a pint but he wouldn't sit there all day like fucking. You know what I mean. Every day he would drink. He would go to a bar a couple of days a week, have five or six pints. Go home, make a dinner, get his dinner, go to bed making dinner on five, six pints 100%.
Speaker 1:And he does. He puts on a slow kicker.
Speaker 2:I had two pints of Guinness yesterday and I was ringing Julie being like I don't know what's going on here. She goes, what have you had to eat today? And I said nothing. She goes. That's why I went. I went round and got a boujum into me and then drove home just kicking around circles.
Speaker 3:See persian madams.
Speaker 2:Persian madams for me, like I, if I'm in a pub or from going out, I'll have a couple of pints there. But again, it's like I think you see before you what had happened and then you have a bit of a wild time in your teenage years, I think, especially like when you grew up or we grew up, like in the estate. It's just rife, it's it's happened, it's part of the culture, it's part of what you're brought up and it's almost part of the life you have to go through. So you kind of do all that and then you come out the other side of it. Then, yes, you'll have a couple of times where you have a bit too much, but most of the time it's within. It's within most of the time I drink.
Speaker 1:I always have too much. I'm a bad like I. Just the amount of times I've been carried home. One one guy from one fella from where I live look, I was coming there this long one night, black, and he said I can't remember getting home. But he said he seen me staggering up with a Chinese up through Turf Lodge in my mess house and he says he was watching me. He was coming through the garage facing Turf Lodge and he was watching me and he was laughing. And he says I was actually. He says and you just started stumbling forward, forward, forward. Bang fell, hit the ground, but it was grass. Yeah, he says I drove her to park the car, picked you up and put you in the car and drove you home. And he says you were covering grass. Yeah, completely covering grass. It was grassed in, so my shoes were stuck.
Speaker 3:I was like what the fuck was with Chinese.
Speaker 1:He says she kicked the motherfucker so I've got myself into some states like break time. It's just like you never want the fun in the end, do you? It's like you're enjoying it.
Speaker 2:I think sometimes as well, depending on where you're at. That is just like the release you need sometimes every weekend. I think, like if you're every weekend, like I think like if you're highly stressed or whatever, or like because even last night, like whenever I got home last night, obviously I had a couple of pints of Guinness. I was complete. I was finally driving home before anybody clips us or tags us get a boojum you had a boojum, I had a boojum you do always get.
Speaker 1:We spoke about this before you get the touch underneath the. Uh, somebody's gonna get him done.
Speaker 2:He was too good, uh. But like, like even last night then when I walked in, julie was like she started making some cocktails recently and I think with the better weather and all she's like, do you want a whiskey sour? And I was like I sure have a whiskey sour here and sit down watching tv. And uh, she brought it in and I tasted and I was like, is there anything in that bar? Whiskey? It was all whiskey. And she was like, well, how much is like a single serving of whiskey normally?
Speaker 2:and I said, I said probably 40, 45 mil. She was like well, there's 110 in that fuck that's a whiskey straight. It was in a pink glass, no room for anything else she was like I thought the lemon would have offset it.
Speaker 1:I was like nothing's hiding, nothing's hiding people do it in holiday and there's no problem everyone brings their kid to like a wee restaurant bar or sit and drink.
Speaker 1:It's the same like. It's the same like atmosphere, like if it's, if it's good vibes. You know it's sunny, it's, you're on holiday, you don't mind. Like I went to Lans Valley a few years ago Cheltenham was on. There was all these Irish lads in a bar drinking, their kids were, and they were all doing me bats and watching the Cheltenham and cheering on horses and the kids were on the boat. It's all good. You know what I mean. It's all good when you're holiday. It's like if it's with them. Mean then you're not getting completely fucking pissed off your head and, like you say, creating the bad atmosphere and it's all good, like if it's, if it's controlled yeah, I think it's mental like.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you've maybe seen this, but I know. So, like my wife, julie, who you've met, we come from very different backgrounds in terms of being brought up. So I even remember like there were certain things just she thought was like the weirdest thing, but for me was like normal childhood. So I remember like when Zeke was just born, he was teething I was like stick a bit of whiskey in his tummy and she's like what.
Speaker 2:And I was like I'd be fine, he goes, I'll sort his gums out, send him asleep. She's like run, not giving like. And I think he was like eight or nine months I'm not getting a nine month old whiskey and I was like it's fine, my granny did it to me, I did it to me, it's fine, and even as well, like I remember like what else was it? There's just been like like other wee things, like even, I think like even like getting Zeke into football and all, and like getting all that. And now even like Elle is starting to do a wee bit, you know she going to football matches and everything like. I remember I took Zeke to his first football match, which was like Ballyclare across the road there which was like bali claire across the road there.
Speaker 2:I was buzzing for it because I was like I'm reliving my childhood, but with my son where she was just like I get it's a big thing for you, but I have no clue why. Oh, I like I know, but I guess she. Well, now that ella's getting up and older, like ella's two now she'll start to do things with ella. That's obviously very girl related and I'll be like I have no clue.
Speaker 1:No clue. That's the same with you and zake. Yeah, yeah, I got zero zero. We went to uh westport a few years ago, me and durvila, and then we brought the child down. She was working and I was training, so we went to sb bar just having a drink. I was in training. So I got a zero zero and I was giving him a wee sip of it. He was only like one, or maybe like almost two at the time, but he was like drinking it and he wouldn't stop. He was like I want more, I want more. And he was just drinking and I was like no, no, that's enough, man, and all that. But nah, he's like four. And I was like no, no, no, no. I mean, am I down cocoa? Have we drank? And he goes no, no, no.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 1:I heard him saying the other day he's obviously straight and wrong.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean it's good that way, because I I caught him on. We were going for dinner on Saturday and the weather's been lovely and he was on the. We were in the Daphne and I was in the Grand National and he's on the round with this other kid and I was not in a big flower pot like loads of trees going through it and stuff and the kid was climbing up on the flower pot. The kid goes, climb up and he goes. No, I heard him, he goes. No, my mummy will kill me. And I picked my head out of the corner and I was like go ahead climb up if you want.
Speaker 3:He went, can I? I went. If you want, go ahead, climb up. I'm fucking loving it.
Speaker 1:And then I says you can do what? And he just, he always stayed on the path and didn't go on the road to eat with him and he's good. But it's good that they can fucking, they can like, they can take on board what you're saying. He said that is, and now he's taking on, but if I was with him he would probably be bad. Yeah, just to annoy me or something I don't know was buzzing because it's a first in a way, like he's done it.
Speaker 2:I think you definitely see what, like, what rubs off. Like even the other day we were, my brother came around and we were building the trampoline for them on Saturday there and all of a sudden Ella who's two was just out of nowhere, started going. Oh man, oh man, she'd spilt sand or something. And I was like that's directly coming from me and even like zeke, he'll be talking, and then he'll end it and be like I know, you know gonna go get this, and all. I'm like where, like where do you get that from? And then I was listening to myself saying it to him, you know, because we're going to the minecraft movie and I think that's when I clicked with me because I was like you know we're gonna go in, we're gonna get popcorn and drinks and all.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was like that's exactly where he was getting it from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. They just, they just everything. They listen and everything and just whatever you say, even like cursing about cursing, bad cursing, they'll. They just say stuff, and I'm like, and there was like totally, and I'm like but it is not even reliving childhood stuff like there's a lot of stuff I wouldn't do from a childhood.
Speaker 2:But there's a lot of stuff that, like I would do and like I think, yeah, like those things have even like I don't gamble anymore, like I think I stopped gambling maybe when I was 20, 21, um, like that was me kind of stopped it when I kind of come out of uni and so we wouldn't be taking him to the bookies or anything, but like even not the whole thing of like taking him to the pub and all like that's one thing I look forward to, like a couple things I look forward to with like with the kids, whether it's Zeke or Ella, whether it's both taking a seat at his first United game, watching him cry, obviously because it's be awful.
Speaker 1:I didn't watch it both of them were as bad as each other the worst 90 minutes of football I've watched in a long, long time I was still going fucking crap.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch it but I heard it was absolutely abysmal. But taking him to his first United game and then taking him to his first United game as like an adult, where where we go watch a game, have a pint together, like dinner and all that there stuff as well, um, and then taking him for his first pint and everything as well, like that's all stuff, it's like core moments that I can't wait for first pint that you know of he'd be probably sticking them
Speaker 2:before, 100% on teen times, growing up like it was myself, or like Older cousins and all. But I'm like so were you a first pint? And they're like Aye, first pint, good thing Instagram and Snapchat and all wasn't about back in.
Speaker 1:I was flat out. I was my first time I caught drinking. I was 13, 13 like. I was blocked Easter Sunday, absolutely full. It was a bingo bus like, and I like I was only the first time I was caught. You know what I mean. So I was probably drinking from myself.
Speaker 2:You drank before. That were you yeah, fucking definitely.
Speaker 1:And I was this fella. He was English, english Rob, everyone called him. He was from. I don't know where he from, but he lived in Turf Lodge anyway, where his, where I was growing up and he was older he was like 18 or 19 at the time and he went to the off-line for us and bought us a drink and, like everyone was drinking.
Speaker 1:But my brother got wind of me, got wind from one of his mates that he did see me walking across like one of the like the old carriageway with a carriage the week before. But he never let him down so we left it a week and then he got me in the car and says see if I see you drinking today, because Paddy told me that he's seen you walking across the amount of bypass where I carried, so I'll be keeping it on you, yeah. And he says it wasn't me, I was carrying it for someone else. And he said it's alright, just let me know, I'll be keeping it on you today, I mean. So we went on the drink anyway. We got six big supertins of blood, fucking black levels, and then, like it was black by five o'clock and he was flanning about looking at me everywhere, trying to check in on me and I was just trying to have him everywhere.
Speaker 1:But then, anyway, I went home and he fucking I was snattered, I couldn't evened me and he went and found out who went in. He was asking everyone about who went in the off leadings. I think someone told him it was English Rob. But there was another fella. There was another fella in his English and you call him Tony Bendineck. He's a football hooligan from Millwall.
Speaker 1:He always goes to Millwall, fun with English, and he's been living there longer than English Rob and everyone sort of knew him. So they went down and he battered Tony Bendinec.
Speaker 3:He was innocent, he couldn't do off-lines for me.
Speaker 1:So he found out that that was a mistake and then he went up and he punched English Rob as well and busted his eye open or something. And then, like a week later, I was corner and then, like a week later, I was going there for like a week, I got out an English robber with a black and I was like tell I was like I never say a fuck, I was somewhere else the whole day.
Speaker 1:I don't know who it was. I told him but yeah, he was on the round having a fucking headings because I I got a head in as well, obviously. But fuck me, 13 years of age, like you, look now and I see like kids of 13, and I go what Like 13? Like first year in school, yeah, yeah, yeah, second year, whatever it is. I was like what See, when I see kids of 13, I go you doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even if I didn't know him, I'd be like, get that out of your hand. Yeah, I think it was like, because I well, like, whenever I got there about 10 or 11, I remember my mom like slipping me the old picardy breezer. You know, like, because, like we, you know, you know what it's like in the estate. Like you live in your wee, like obviously you live in the big estate but within that you got your wee community of your neighbors all around you. So, like, where we lived was a place called beach drive and there was like a rectangle green that just had houses around it and then the main road.
Speaker 2:So whether it was going to bingo and then people coming back from bingo and going to somebody's house and having a drink or whatever, pretty much I'd say most weekends when I say every weekend, I can't remember for sure like, but most weekends there would have been a party somewhere or you would have been going and everybody had kids a similar age, so it was like all us kids mucked together.
Speaker 2:So with those times there was maybe 10 or 11 or so, like my mom would have slipped me like the albacore de brisa or something, but when it came to drinking. Their whole thing which is something I'll try and bring on with my kids was like if you want to drink, that's fine, but let us know, like we, like you can drink here, you can go out and drink. If you're going to go out and drink, let us know, so we know when they come pick you up or whatever else. It was like just don't do it in secret because I don't want to find you somewhere like, especially in carrick, there was loads of boys having to get their stomach pumped.
Speaker 2:They're going up the a and e because they were in a field somewhere. They're on a street like corner somewhere and I think they just always worry. They're like look, but don't mind you drinking them. We know. No, you are gonna drink. Like we're not stupid, just let us know and I think even that was a case from like them almost letting us see that it was okay in the house from like a young age. But then, on the flip side of that, I remember walking in one time and my sister I think she was like 12 or something was having like a house party at the house and there was like all this alcohol everywhere and I just went in and was like, give me that, give me all that.
Speaker 1:Now my brother, our Liam, done it to my sister. She had a bit of a party at my house. Now we none of us ever partied in my house, ever like we were fucking shit scurred. All of us are like still, he wasn't one where you had to keep a secret from him because he had a went nuts and he was strict on us.
Speaker 1:So just we just were afraid of him saying anything or doing anything or wouldn't tell him I was going there because, new people were drinking and all I got would be just put my sister I don't know where she got her balls from to have a bit of a party in our house, but it was like a sunny day and she had a few people back. Our Liam went up now our Liam Dee would have been strict on us as well, dee, to let me drink you in the car but he went up and fucked everyone out of our house, told our snaith to get everyone out and it was like we lads and we lads and we were like get out the fuck.
Speaker 1:And she was like 14 or 15 and he was like get out the fuck, took all the drink off me, capped it for himself, like he was like if you fade, sir, and we love.
Speaker 3:We laugh as they go. I was giving him fags. Took our fags off of him, feed them all out. We laugh as they go. You may have fags back here. Look at the fuck, you're too young, you shouldn't be smoking or drinking. He feeds them all out. Here it goes Up. He does so. He took all the fags and only kept them for himself.
Speaker 2:Oh, mate See, speaking about smoking, just speaking about parents and influence and all.
Speaker 1:I've never smoked, never wanted to smoke, same here.
Speaker 2:But I think it's because one day my mum brought me and my three brothers in I remember this clearly to the living room and told us to take a drag of her cigarette and we all near died and from that point it put me off. But my other brothers have smoked on and off like it didn't put them off but like people are probably hearing this now being like that's mad that your mum brought you in and told you to smoke and I'm like well, here I did the job, I haven't smoked.
Speaker 3:They're like four and all. They're like playing my face and they Pericles, no. Or like progues that was you, that was me, wee hoops no.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I like I I don't know what I did, but I took one in and like whether I held it in or whether I swallowed it, but my lung near came back up like, but again like I've never like smoked smoke, weed or not, like all my friends going up with smoke blow and smoke smoke, fake smoke blow, and I just I never done it.
Speaker 1:Not I never. I can't really remember ever being peer pressured by my mates, I think just with the boxing settings and all like. Even when I was really young I boxed and it was like I was like I don't do it, I don't know, why it just never appealed to me. It wasn't like I was afraid of my dad. Obviously I was afraid of my dad, afraid of Daniel, but it just, it just didn't appeal to me.
Speaker 3:I just, I was like.
Speaker 1:I didn't like it didn't like the smell. I didn't like. That's what I've heard of dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or drinking.
Speaker 1:At least you were getting a wee bit drunk a wee bit like you enjoy it? I don't. I didn't feel like anyone who smoked or smoked weed or smoked blow or whatever they've done around me enjoyed it. Yeah, but when they drank, everyone seemed to have had a laugh and enjoyed that, so it was different.
Speaker 2:Controversial take.
Speaker 2:I know, Whereas like drinking has always been a thing Like you always probably, as you're a kid like can't wait to get a bit of drink or something, I don't know whether it's changing now with generations, but, like I know, whenever I was younger and it's a even like you know, let's say there's 10 years between me and my sister Like it was always a thing of like you know, there was a bit of like on, like the sneak or something or whatever, like you were always like oh yeah, like this is a flip in, this is the coolest thing I've ever done, whereas I don't ever think there was ever that with smoking and even now with vapes and all coming in like I feel like smoking's dying out vapes are just taking over.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of people that's never ever smoked and they're just vaping oh aye. My missus is a prime example. She's there. If she doesn't smoke ever, never smoked, ever Now she just goes out with her vape.
Speaker 2:Probably because they give them all those fruity flavours. I know.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what it is. I'm like why. It's just habit when they're drinking.
Speaker 2:I'm like why would you want it? Because I know, if I see someone smoking, I'm surprised.
Speaker 1:I'm almost like where did that come from the? Not too long ago I drove down and it's like 17 quid for 20 figs almost a score for 20 figs. That's a pound of fig. When we were kids you used to get a fucking. You used to get a a 20 dag for 3.50 aye, did you ever have the?
Speaker 2:did anybody in your family smoke whenever you were growing up? My ma just. Aye, did you ever? When the ice cream van came round? You can go out and get a single for like 20p.
Speaker 1:We had house shops in Turf Lodge. There was loads of house shops. People just had shops in their house. You had Brady's house shop. You had Miles' house shop. There was loads of house shops and just going by, loose Seamy McGarry just call him Seamy Shadyfinger. His fingers are covered nicotine but he used to. He used to sell loose fags. Even when your kid's going to school sell them loose like 20p or 25p.
Speaker 2:I actually done that once. That was my first business selling fags Selling loose.
Speaker 1:That's a people who's about 10 fags going to school and selling them loose.
Speaker 2:Well, see, my granny and granda, a proctor would have went to Spain at Easter and then we all would have went in the summertime. So when she went and literally like if you ever want to see a woman work out how to do a fake run effectively, it was my granny Proctor. Yeah, like she would have had the ice cooler bags known, had the right ones for the right amount of people and stacked a wee bit more where it wouldn't get checked and all. Like she'd come home with about two years worth every time. Like I remember that the closet in their spare room, like the walk-in wardrobe, was just stacked with fence and hedges and other like wee ones as well. But she, like she was going there and I think I was maybe fourth year or fifth year and I'd say, could you get me a couple of boxes?
Speaker 2:she was like yeah, no questions asked, and then I was then selling them in the in school then after from a young age man, I knew this was the life I was dancing for my dad worked in a nursing home Up in Knackbracken Like an old people's nursing home. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And followed out of Tex Like up in Knackbracken and they smoked like 60 fags a day but they're not allowed out. So they said my dad was like a maintenance man, maintained all the Knackbracken.
Speaker 3:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:They used to. He had a great relationship with all the nurses and a great relationship with all the all the people in there, um, and they all knew him and they all loved him and he used to take them out. The test goes and all, and then he goes jolly, will you shaft me? Will you shaft me? And he would get their fake. So I went to kazakhstan and it was like 50p for a pack of figs. So I brought back because I was away training for the irish boxing team. Um, I brought, I brought like we were for a month but I had like three weeks of training clothes. So see, all my training clothes were all old clothes. I just threw them out and just filled the suitcase with cigarettes and I mean like thousands of cigarettes and then brought them home and gave them all to my dad to sell in the nursing home and he made a fortune. He was selling for like three, fifty and made a fortune.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you sell them for like 350 and they were gone like that because they were just all fucking ticks in there, all smoking like fuck, and they're all older and they're just smoking, smoking, smoking the thing is like back in the day though you probably didn't get anybody, that was like a casual smoker either, like my mum was a smoker and I say, like my grand, the patty was always like 20, yeah, like 20, like a couple of days, or 20 a day they don't even sell, can no more.
Speaker 2:Don't sell, can no more like I couldn't even tell you what. Like obviously I know cigarette brands but like no, I couldn't because they're all locked away, obviously behind when you're in the shops. But like I was in Lurking, like first time I went to Spain, my granda was like get us some fags when you're out there. So she was like we need to do that. Then I was like only do we get cigarettes from my granda. She was like why?
Speaker 3:and I was like because they're cheaper right here and you are back home and she was like what?
Speaker 2:and I was like you're, like you're allowed to bring home this many?
Speaker 1:and she just thought she was like I've never heard of that before. Big time. It's like different worlds with, like, if you live in any sort of estate, that was a thing to do, like you just always bring back fags and even if you didn't know, even if, like your marita or someone, your gran or granda, didn't smoke, you knew someone who did smoke, you'd just put them back anyway. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Oh, because they're well cheaper. Like that was it. There was any time you heard someone going. It was almost like you were doing a wee mini fag run like I know I was away.
Speaker 1:Obviously I was away to malaga doing that fucking hyrax and it was mother's day. I should have bought a couple of boxes of figs from my mother's day.
Speaker 2:Do you think it would still be as cheap? Do you think it would still be as cheap I think they were like.
Speaker 1:They were like 60 euro for 200 figs, for a carton of figs.
Speaker 2:And how much would it be?
Speaker 1:out Well, if you were buying for one packet, it's nearly 20 pounds.
Speaker 2:Out here.
Speaker 1:No, if I was, if you're going. So it's like it would be like for a carton of figs. My mava's a buy. There's 10 packets in a carton of figs, so that's 200 figs. So if she was a buy 10 packets of figs, that would cost her nearly 200 quid. So she's getting them for 60 61 euro. Man, though you know what I mean fucking insane.
Speaker 2:We're being robbed it's mad that it still is cheap, though you thought everybody would have caught on by now. I know we thought the European countries would have thought, oh, we can charge more here.
Speaker 1:Charge more Because it's so much over in the mainland. It's just tax, isn't it? They just tax the fuck out of it. The government just tax fakes.
Speaker 2:Well, I think it's wild, Because a lot of the camera equipment Asia, like we have a site we use which is like full legitimate, like I've had a bad experience with them and it was not a bad experience. Like I had a order, something that didn't come, yeah, and I messaged them and they refunded me within 24 hours and I was like, look, can I just order it again because I still need it, but it takes like just over a week to come. But compared to buying it here, there's about five, six hundred pound difference in price.
Speaker 1:Like hmm, fuck me, that's mad.
Speaker 2:And they're like just and you always think like who's going to catch on and when's it going to stop? Like you think like in the day we live in now. You think there'd just be like a flat rate. Now I don't know much about it, but obviously everybody's up in arms about these tariffs that big Trump's bringing in, so I don't know whether everything's going to change then. But like yeah, like it's still. I find it a wee bit mad. There's still places you can get stuff like hell of a lot cheaper just because it's coming from a different country in the south they're getting.
Speaker 1:I have a load of mates who live in the south and they keep getting stuff delivered to my house because of the fucking Brexit and the REC border and all, and they want to see this stuff come to my house because I have to bring it to our everything now. It's fucking insane.
Speaker 2:No one's getting a break here.
Speaker 1:It's mental, fucking weird. Like they get boxing gloves delivered just from the UK. It's like it's the same fucking. It's mad, like it's just everything. Just when we were first looking at a house, man, it was like just hold off, it's gonna, the prices are gonna go down, the price is going to drop. They fucking haven't dropped at all. When was that? That was like two years ago, three years ago. Man, it was like the price is going to drop, like they're still going up. Like they're still going up and nothing's fucking dropped.
Speaker 2:Even now, like with those mortgages taking a big hit, like because of the whole pound crash and everything. Yeah, like I remember our first mortgage. The interest rate was something like 1.3 percent or something and then when we renewed it, our financial advisor was like look, it's 2.3 percent here, which is quite high, and two weeks later should have shot up to 11 and we were laughing then like what seemed high at the time. That's what happened to us that's exactly we.
Speaker 1:We got a house agreed it was 1.4. We agreed with um. The house fell through so we went to ban our house and we ended up paying 2.1. Yeah, but then it went right up to like 11% and I was like fuck me.
Speaker 2:We dodged the ball there because we have people, because this was when we were actually selling our first house before we bought the first one we lived in in ballyclare, and the people that were buying our house like they didn't have long left on their mortgage but they got it whenever the interest rates were good and we were trying to obviously get things over the line and they were like, look, if we have to renew here, we'll not be able to afford these interest rates like nobody could afford to know, like people's mortgages went up a thousand pounds 50 over an hour because it went from.
Speaker 2:If they want a variable rate. It went from nothing to flipping, like people were almost tripling the mortgage payment inside of a month.
Speaker 2:So it was like, because they were like, look, we have to renew, we'll have to renew at a higher rate, and I was like, well, nobody could like if it happened to us we couldn't do it either. No, no, so thankfully we had like agreed a fixed rate and all and we're. Thankfully we were able to get it through. But even when we were moving house there, like just before christmas, so like we were only in that first house about two years and then we moved to another house just around the corner which stopped the road a bit and they were even saying, like, projected once, you're fixed rates because we were able just to move our old mortgage over port the mortgage it's called. So we were able just to do that to the new house. And they were like, look, probably when you're going to renew in like two, three years time, you you're probably still looking at about three, three and a half percent, which is like an extra, probably still an extra couple of hundred pounds.
Speaker 1:Fucking mad, isn't it Crazy?
Speaker 2:And it's mental when you don't do nothing to your house but you have to pay more for it.
Speaker 1:You have to pay more for it just because the banks have more interest.
Speaker 2:Mental Fucking insane. It's absolutely mental.
Speaker 1:So much people aren't learning and getting an opportunity out of that gaff because it's fucking brutal.
Speaker 2:It is hard like, because I even think like what's it going to be like when the kids start buying houses? Because even if you look at like what the average house value was like when our parents, or like their generation, was buying houses, compared to now us buying houses Like, and another like seeks like four now, so I'd say he buys a house at like 25 or something, I guess, or 21 years, what on earth like is it?
Speaker 1:gonna look like again because, like I seen this thing the other day at 1am, my instagram pages put up and it was like I think it was like in 30 years from now, 30 years now, if it goes the way it's been going, the average salary would be like I don't know, but like everything was like times 10, almost so, like the average house would be like nearly like a million pound.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like 1.2 million or something, just right because even like I had a friend over and I took him up to the new house for the first time and even as well, like what he had said he the key to have to pay for a similar house was like three times madness and the price of what I pay for mine.
Speaker 2:I obviously we're at ballyclare, so house prices are a bit lower compared to belfast. Like you're probably paying a good bit more in belfast for what we have, like, what, like, just, I think like three, four times the amount on the mainland for no difference just because of where it is.
Speaker 1:It's just probably goes down to like like salary and stuff like, and what the average salary is over, like I know, like they have any better job opportunities as well. You know what I always say as well. I always say to people see cities that have see cities, see the cities that have see cities. See the fact that England have like like just professional football all alone. Like you think, if they met employees in each club, yeah, at every tier of football, from like league two, league one, maybe right up, you're talking like obviously the amount of people like, let's say, for example, man City, you've probably 30 plus employees are who are close to millionaires, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or millionaires. So like plus, you're talking that's, that's the pinnacle. Then you go like then you've like 20 clubs in the Premier League, so there's 20. That's 30's the pinnacle. Then you go like at then you've like 20 clubs in primary league, so it's 20, that's 30 times 20 yeah and then the championship, all probably averaging 20 grand a week wage, and then league one, probably five grand a week.
Speaker 2:You know like sure, even like before they went then, before they went into like the championship or like that kind of the, the lower league and they were playing in North Blue or something or whatever. It was the things I remember when I watched that documentary. Their first year of wages or bills as a club in total was like 1.5 million For a club that wasn't even considered professional.
Speaker 1:I know Crazy, but that's what I'm saying. So they've got all that like in every city. You think of the amount of teams in each city between between Premier League and and League 2. Do you know what I mean? They're all averaging, like getting. That's only for playing sport, that's only one sport as well, that's not saying rugby or any other sport. Yeah, like it generates as well. Yeah, do you know what I mean? For the city alone, it just gives like we we feel incredible on the boot probably getting a grant max. We're a grant and a half, maybe a week max. No TV, no revenue, like I don't really like TV.
Speaker 1:It's on as if it's like a big game or something, or like a cup game or something like. There is no regular like week.
Speaker 2:I can't go watch it week in, week out, like I know it's crazy like so you're like the opportunity over Businesses are getting a bigger income from the likes of them.
Speaker 1:Like, if you're a plumber and you've got a plumbing business and you fit bathrooms and a professional footwearer is looking at a bathroom and fit it, you can get enough charges for whatever you want. Do you know what I mean? So that goes around the whole. Like we're here, we don't have that. We don't have people who are out there taking money.
Speaker 2:Like you don fucking paul harkin from praise guy big tom smith oh, I heard tom smith fucking winner's win plan about fucking he doesn't sleep, oh man, I know. But it is true, like I think like there is definitely like that wealth gap, like just because of the size of, obviously, the mainland and stuff, and I think, even though, like you have england, wales and scotland and maybe there'll be somebody in the comments here I'll go up in arms about this but obviously, as like a whole country that's like bigger, like you know, you can go from England into Scotland and probably get the same kind of opportunities where, like I even know, there's a lot of people, if they work down south, they're trying to get houses in Newry because there's such a big difference of a gap there in terms of, like, housing prices, because it would be a lot dearer to buy a house down south or even to rent the house down south, compared to if you just go across the border to newry and get something there exactly like it's definitely like there's there's different levels to it.
Speaker 2:So like whenever you know if inflation keeps going up or even just with the economy having to grow, with the people growing or the times growing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you wonder what it's going to look like if you, if you were on a good job in the south and you like say like, don't talk, so you had a really good salary, and then obviously the wages and stuff's a lot better than the south and like people who builders, like bricklayers, for example leave, they go to dublin to work and if they just come home with a rage, like they're laughing.
Speaker 1:Example they go to Dublin to work aye, and if they just come home with a wage? Like they're fucking laughing because they get to spend a lot less in the north, yeah, than they do in the south, but they're getting a wage from the south. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:it's it's a win-win.
Speaker 1:like we've got the, you'll have the best way to do it. It's not bad.
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Speaker 1:Fuck, tom Smith, I'm the man. Oh fuck, I can't even get my own fucking credit rating. It's been yeah, it's been up and down for the last load of one default on it was in my fault, like someone bought stuff on my name and never paid it back. A load of years ago like so I'm trying to get that default cleared. Aye, if I get that sorted, then my credit rating goes up then.
Speaker 2:I hear I I was in big trouble with Julie, but I think it was last year because I got a default on her credit rating.
Speaker 2:It was mad. I remember too as well I was up in Port Rush or something and went to one of those car parks and when I was doing the, the parking thing, I stuck the reg in wrong, so like I was paying for parking but it wasn't for my car. I think I put like a zero instead of an O or something in the reg, like by mistake, and anyway got a ticket. But I was like, ah sure, it's not one of the ones you have to pay, it was one of those. So for like must have been a good, I'd say, two years that wasn't getting paid and just racking up. But for some reason whether it was like the car was in julie's name or something, or something got there, it was going to her credit score and not mine. So like we went somewhere I think it was even to get the phone renewed or something and she didn't get accepted and they were like no your credit score is bad.
Speaker 2:She was like why she's like what do you mean? Like she had no clue. I had no clue either. And then it was going through like one of those agencies. It was like I have a car parking ticket for about two years. And she was like then she started tracing things back and obviously we like live out of the calendar and she came in like a beaten bear and she was like you're the reason and I was like what school remember that thing?
Speaker 2:you said you didn't have to pay. Well, you haven't been paying it for two years and it's now come off my credit rating.
Speaker 2:So I was like oh flip, saying like we gotta pay it or whatever, but that and then I think like the default come off and the credit score is sweet now, but like Julie's really pernickety not pernickety, but like takes a bit of pride in her credit score so for me, were her doing nothing for me to completely mess it up, man, I was in, I was in the doghouse for a while for that just Derval's wage and she the mortgage on her name.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. And I just had to pay a big, bigger deposit for anything.
Speaker 1:We wanted, like she had to pay a big, fucking, massive deposit. But she's talking about obsession now and maybe I don't know what she wants to do. But it's time to get the thing right. I'm a nightmare for shit. Like I see anything, I just let because I don't want to know that it's not going. No, do you know what I do like say, if I have a feeling that something's not going to go my way, I don't want, I don't want to try and fix it because it's not.
Speaker 1:Say, as soon as I hear the news, like like I, I took my wedding ring off to train last week, right, and I, I don't know where it is. Yeah, right, so I've told everyone I don't know where my wedding ring is. I've put it in that bag, but I left my shoes up in the Holy Trinity Boxing Club where I was training and I was going. I've checked the bag it's not in there. I've checked my shorts it's not in there. I've checked down the back of and Derby's. Like like that was two weeks ago, you still haven't even like like you don't care enough, like you don't understand, you're never getting that ring back. That's your wedding ring even if you buy another ring.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have the same value as that wedding ring, do you? Because that was the day that's we like? You get married with that. That's your wedding ring. You don't care enough? Yeah, I actually do care enough. I just don't want the fucking news to be nah, it's not here. I don't want to contact michael hawkins and say, is my ringer? It's like dude, dude. Now he's like no, because then I know I've lost it. Yeah, I'm holding on to whatever I want to hold on to hope.
Speaker 1:There is a wee bit of hope there but I don't want to hear the hard truth that, nah, it's not here yeah, so I tax him saying is my as ex, is my trainer, sir? He says yep, he sent me a photo of the ass, ex, and I went it's my ring and said it and I went like that and he sent me a photo of it all and I went, oh, I told you, sir, I fucking told you, sir, I knew it I was like I think, oh, that'd be, that'd be good.
Speaker 2:Oh man, like I hear I lost mine ages ago, I didn't know where. Like Zeke went through a phase where he would have come into our room because I always would have taken mine off at night time because it just would have annoyed me. Like I see him, like I can't sleep with a watch or nothing on or anything, can't even sleep with socks on because that annoys me. So I was like, oh, zeke must have come in and got it. And like he took it somewhere, because even recently, like he's been taking Julie's rings and saying they're Sonic rings because he's been watching Sonic. So it's just like kids do. But I was like it'll turn up in the house move. It'll turn up in the house move. Didn't turn up in the house move, but then I can't lost their engagement ring in the back garden and it didn't turn up in the house maybe either. So we're one for one.
Speaker 1:So it can't really be. Tip for tat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll draw a line on this we both didn't do well here we'll agree to disagree we'll leave it at that no more that's it because, fellas, are we have more careless about stuff, but not intentionally.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? It's just who we are. Yeah, different fucking ways.
Speaker 2:I agree, like there's loads of stuff. Julie's just like, will you just do that? And I'm like, oh well, and then I'll forget about it. Oh fuck, I miss him.
Speaker 1:I'd forget about it. She goes here, lift him, bring him up with surgery, and I just walk by, don't even I just it's not because they want to lift them and bring them up the stairs and make them run away. I just forget, yeah. And the reason why I forget is because it's not that big a deal, tony. It's like a wee toy sitting on the stairs. It's not that big a deal to me, yeah. And then she goes did you not lift that? I forgot. It's because you forgot.
Speaker 2:I literally told you as you woke up upstairs and you forgot it's just my bends are my kryptonite it's always like here you stick up and I feel you come to bed, and then I'm like, ah, wake up early in the morning, dude and then you're out and back on literally, I'm hearing, I'm hearing the rain hit the window and I'm like you're in the fucking bin like a little straight boot and you're like fuck it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not a darn time anyway. Nah, just kidding no, I'm not a darn time.
Speaker 2:Nah, man like, yeah, Like Tony.
Speaker 1:Soprano. We housecooting all her sticking up dragging the bins out.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing when I had like a lion and the plump or the Tyler came at like half seven and he rang a doorbell and I went down mullet's still up in the bedroom as I'm down the stairs literally it was, it was dragging back, dragging me back up and I had to open the curtains and he was like, did I wake you? And I was like, nah, nah, mate, I was up. It was like a birdie. See Hurs all over the place All night.
Speaker 3:Yeah man.
Speaker 2:It was like yeah, like the bins. Man, I'm awful for that. Like I hold my hands up and say Millions of times it's been the case of like Our bins when overflowing, because I just didn't put it out, because I was like I'll do it before I go to bed, and then I don't have to stay on top of it.
Speaker 1:What day is your bins with? Couldn't even tell you Mine's a Thursday, so we go off our neighbour. Ours are Friday, so we bring ours out on a Thursday. But we're both sweet.
Speaker 2:When Davey puts his out.
Speaker 1:I know when that's colours. What colours are they? Blue, red. I pull a blue one out and then look out the window about an hour later and they're all black pens and I do it again.
Speaker 2:See our black and brown get done in the same day, so it's not too bad.
Speaker 1:But like I always just get the weeks mixed up, it's a nightmare.
Speaker 2:No see, I literally like if well, when Davey goes on holiday, I'll be snickered. Well, I suppose I can wait, but people aren't as quick as what he is like he's, he's like, he's on it. So you know right, that's the one I have to do when I eventually get to it, or never get to it, yeah, whereas other people, I think, go off as well. I would say near enough.
Speaker 1:Anyone who has a gaff probably have the same like same problems.
Speaker 2:I'd say it's a common thing they'll use us in a suspect. See, eh, dude, get off my back about it. Then no, fucking the dead birds are on their back leave us alone, just leave us alone it's like it's one of those things like you want to just leave it out the front of the house, but then it's an eyesore to the front of the house.
Speaker 2:Just leave it there permanently just do a paddle, paddle it, or fucking Tether and a handle I just stick mine Round the side, like I used to bring it Round the side of the house Through the gate and round the back, but now I just stick it the side of the house.
Speaker 1:Ours is the side of the house too.
Speaker 2:Because I convinced myself that's going to make it easier To bring it out. But you can watch this back In about a year's time.
Speaker 1:And I still haven't brought it out. Well, we'll call it a day here. Yeah, man, thank you for stopping in. Man, you are the man behind the, the man behind the fucking magic.
Speaker 2:The man behind it, the man behind it. Well, it's good, good to get out.
Speaker 1:It is Thanks for having me on Magic.