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The Public Nuisance Podcast #024 “Bought Them Tyre’s In The Dark” with Stevie Haughey & Conal Hunter

Sean McComb Season 1 Episode 24

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Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.


This week we welcome Stevie Haughey & Conal Hunter to the podcast.


Stevie Haughey is the owner of “Ireland Before You Die” & “Meanwhile In Ireland”


We cover Bittles, Social Media, Belfast Da’s, Irish Food, Conor McGregor, Scotland, Guinness, Pigeon Racing, WWE and much more.


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Speaker 1:

The Public Newsness, sean McCann. Welcome to this episode of the Public Newsness podcast, brought to you from Killin Studios, Right here, where you can get all your content done, from photoshoots, podcasts set up tailored for you. The lads hi, harla, I'm Stevie incredible of his day. How are you, lads, keep well.

Speaker 2:

Not too bad, sean. Thanks for having us on.

Speaker 1:

Mate, thanks for making the trip to the much beloved Ballyclare we've never been to Ballyclare.

Speaker 3:

We came up here today and we were like we just thought it was going to be like just an area like our dine or something yeah, travelled the lengths and to Ireland, seen all the best spots, but like we can finally take Baliclare off of Baliclare, I know there's a lot of people who have come in and were like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

I've never been up here until, obviously, the first like the first episode maybe, or before we agreed to do the podcast. I came in and was like fuck it. First time, baliclare and is this?

Speaker 2:

it obviously of Spain, from Belfast, and you being from the west, I know what the fuck's he recording up there for like.

Speaker 1:

I know a lot of people like I would say obviously, if I reach out to people that come on as guests, they're probably going where is it? And then I tell them. But usually I try and get the answer yes or no first before I tell them is it?

Speaker 2:

Malagler and then and then they're killing the studios.

Speaker 1:

What a spot, what a place up here a lot of people who do come on end up going fuck like, because a lot of the people I've got on like comedians and stuff like that they're in there like they want to have podcasts. They end up coming back to Ryan and give him a shout and then Ryan starts fucking outgrowing me and that that's it.

Speaker 2:

It's the way things are going now, the way people are looking to media and stuff like a podcast game, isn't it? It's only going to get bigger as well, I think this is your next step.

Speaker 1:

Nah, stevie, you've been scatting all day coming on.

Speaker 3:

I know well, I mean thanks for having me on. This is actually my first proper podcast and this guy here, my best mate. He's been there since, like you know, since school days, but me and him have worked together on loads of stuff over the years. And then I was saying to him about it and he was like you need to go on, and I was like fuck it, we're going. And I was like you come up and then, chatting to you, you're like sure.

Speaker 2:

Conall, you come on as well. So, and like you take that jump, that's when the good things happen.

Speaker 1:

I was kind of when you were down getting the coffee, I was like I want to see what he does and he relaxes and he starts letting it flow and then he wants to back his good crack.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, fuck, I want to do more, I know like obviously I run Iron Muffet I mean mine in Ireland and like both pages have like over a million followers. Yeah, isn't on it all the time and I'm usually asked. People are like, oh, I love the video you've done with you know, like Kevvy4x or interviewing John Biddles, but I literally all I ask is one or two questions and then let them let it out and say something and the video does really well, but I'm not usually the one what one did you have first?

Speaker 1:

what one did you start with? The main page, page meanwhile in ireland, or was it so like?

Speaker 3:

I went to um so when I was 18 I was like, like grew up and I was like I I'm done with belfast, getting out of here. My sister was in university in england and I was like, right, I want to go away. So I was like I thought I would never be back in belfast. So I went to uni in england and then when I was over in england, just chatting to so many english people, like they actually love the irish, like I thought when I being from here, like they actually love the Irish, like I thought when I'd been from here, been over there, they'd be like, oh, the Irish. They're like, oh, we love the Irish. And you know they were so sound.

Speaker 2:

Well, she did the feather on, says the.

Speaker 1:

Irish, I know, I know.

Speaker 3:

Captain Mel's feather on, but I yeah, we just everyone spoke so highly of Ireland and I just became really proud to be Irish. And then around St Paddy's Day, just over 10 years ago, I just started a Facebook page to see in Ireland before you die and didn't have any followers. It was just posting pictures of Ireland and I didn't have any followers. I didn't want to share it with my mates and be like can you follow my page? And there's no followers.

Speaker 1:

I'm embarrassing.

Speaker 3:

So I started messaging all these Irish pubs in New York, chicago, because you know, watch the Departed or any.

Speaker 1:

Irish-American film.

Speaker 3:

I love the Irish, you know. So I just knew the Irish-Americans are really passionate about Ireland. So I just started messaging all these pubs and like groups from America and they were like yeah, we love it. And shared the page and like within a week I had 70 000 followers on the places to see an iron before you die page. And then I was like I had no money in uni. I was like how do I make money? And I was looking up on youtube um, oh, you can make money if you make a website. Um, and like, put ads on it and people read the articles. Yeah, so then I didn't know how to make a website and then watched this YouTube video how to make a website in 10 minutes and about 17 minutes later I had this really poor three page website called aranbuffoedeyecom. And then, just, is it still going?

Speaker 1:

yeah, they're still still going well.

Speaker 3:

Now we're on 700,000 followers, just got thousands of articles places to see in Ireland, and then we've obviously launched the Irish Bucket List book there on Amazon, so it's doing really well there we go is your shine copy, shine copy shine copy.

Speaker 2:

I remember when it was popping up you'd see people you know's face going on it, going viral and stuff. People are always who the fuck's running that say being best mates with Stephen for years. It wasn't until about two years later I found out it was actually him Probably sitting away busting at it in a dark room or something.

Speaker 1:

I know I actually didn't.

Speaker 2:

I think my big pop done it a few times and sort of one of our mates.

Speaker 1:

I think that was one of the ones that went big was you and one of our mates town and all, and I'm like, who is that post?

Speaker 3:

not the fucking turn out, it was him but to start I I, as I said, like I was supposed I didn't, I didn't want to put my face on it and I didn't tell anyone about it. Um, and then, uh, over time I started telling people I don't know. I was a bit you don't know what's going on your head sometimes at the time as I go, don't want to tell anyone about it, and then everyone judge me. But then I started. I had Ireland before you did, and then I was always just with. I've always been a bit of an entrepreneur and just trying new things. And then I just started.

Speaker 3:

I thought a funny page would be good so I started Meanwhile in Ireland and then that was just funny memes and then ended up taking there was a picture of you in like an art gallery it was like Irish, irish man um was born 400 years ago or something there's one of them ones.

Speaker 2:

It was like an early painting and someone went down one day to Ulster Museum and the picture looked a double of me, but 100 years ago so I went down got a picture beside it and like this was years and years ago. Before. Like Instagram or anything, I was blowing up thousands of likes on Facebook and then like it ended up on his page and stuff and I was like where?

Speaker 1:

are they?

Speaker 2:

getting that from, but it turns out it was him in a dark room in England, not even in Ireland.

Speaker 3:

Aye, so now my face is out there, but the last few years it was just the way things are going. You want to make more videos and you have to put your face in it. People are reading less and I was happy enough being anonymous and you know, writing these articles and scenes, yeah, behind the scenes, but then just if you want to, I'm sort of like joking that avoiding a real job for for years now.

Speaker 3:

So like that's, that's the way it's going with podcasts and, like you know, like um youtube and videos. You have to like. People want to consume media.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

To get a bit of recognition For what you do. Do you know what I mean? If you start putting in, people start recognizing you and then it's like, like, obviously, what With John Bittles and stuff, a lot of people I know John very well. He's a legend of a man and I drink. I was drinking Bittles regularly but, like a lot of people wouldn't even know who John Bittle was. But now they do and it always has that.

Speaker 1:

Now people know what they expect before they even go, or what sort of personality he has and that cheekiness of him.

Speaker 3:

But you can sort of take over a pinch of salt if yeah, he, he loves the notoriety around it, like he's like the pantomime villain. He, he, it's like it's a bit like karen's I used to describe it as like karen's diners. You know, like you know, you go in and if you be, if you be cheeky to him, like or something, or you say ask him something stupid, he goes into.

Speaker 3:

You know, bad boy john you know man John Biddle's mode, but I was listening to the Whiskey and White podcast and he actually sent me it and I was listening and had John Biddle's on. I was like this guy is a goldmine.

Speaker 2:

You had your own experience of him as well, didn't you with the Tamarade? Oh yeah, your mates are over from England. Fuck, what a story.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, so I yeah, so I had my. So Guinness Gurry voted his Guinness, the best Guinness in Belfast. And I had my mates over from England, my uni mates, and they were over and I was like I think we went to a Belfast Giants game and then we were like, right, we'll go over, we'll go for a pint best pint of Guinness in Belfast. And we walked in and got me well, got a round of drinks and and then I was like right, Me and my missus we were. We went up to the bar and we're like, right, I was getting the round of Guinness and she was getting the round of TM Ares. And this is before I knew like anything about you know the, the whole Biddle's bar and Bumpy barman and all this Baby Guinness, wasn't it?

Speaker 3:

And I was actually really insulted. So, like you know, like then, but anyway, I went up and I was like right here, can I get a round of Guinness? And Mrs she's going to get a round of baby Guinness. And he goes don't do baby Guinness. And I was like what? My mates are over from England, they want an Irish shot, irish shot about it. And then he goes tamer. Yeah, nah, that's not Irish. And I go do you have a tamer? And he goes yeah, but I'm not, I'm not doing.

Speaker 1:

I refuse to do a baby Guinness that was the son.

Speaker 3:

The son was like I wasn't John, I was the son and I was like I couldn't believe how rude they were, but I think it's all a bit of a they're like the it's a bit of an act, but they're they're nice guys. Then I interviewed him, the video blew up and it was, like you know, hundreds of thousands of views, and then I went around. Anytime I need content, I just go around. Give John Biddle's a microphone.

Speaker 1:

I'll let him waffle. I'll let him go. I was talking to him.

Speaker 3:

The other day, but I'm sure he sees loads too. He loves it.

Speaker 2:

He probably gets tortured off the back of it as well I feel like people trying to do the same as you're doing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, someone commented the other day and was like under one of the posts and they said for my 60th birthday. I went down and the hospitality was great, john's a top lad and he just John Biddles himself replied and said I have, I have. What did he say?

Speaker 2:

Does he have a reputation for telling people to let people know? Give him the game away, lad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's fucking screwing on you Letting people know the real side of him. But, as I say, he's a brilliant fella and he's very accommodating of me Like if me and Durbar in terms of the chair, he just goes go up there, sit down and he moves people up out and get their seat. But it's good the way they have it run in Bittles, like they have a wee. They have a wee system and place where you don't go up to a bar and stand what do you want?

Speaker 2:

stand there, bum in it.

Speaker 1:

They bring it to you like it's class the way they do it. It's brilliant, but is that your favourite? Is that your best pint, do you think?

Speaker 3:

I so well. The best pints in Belfast for me is Biddle's and then the Hercules board. A lot of people haven't went to the Hercules board. Hercules, they're great.

Speaker 1:

Now I haven't had a Guinness, but see a pint of harp and a pint of harp in there, unbelievable.

Speaker 1:

I was down one day we were in years and years ago we went to Liverpool all the lads it was like 20 of us and I came back and I had tack. I had a sports they do a sports diploma in tack in Millfield and at lunchtime I went fuck it. I sang him round for a pint and I went to Hercules and had a pint of harp and it's probably still this day probably the nicest pint of harp I've ever had in my life. I end up drinking four of them.

Speaker 2:

All them, man, it's one and a half cups the horse racing bars seem to be 24-7.

Speaker 3:

Horse racing on old men with the papers and they're just looking and then they're going into the bookies next door. And it's just everyone's over the age of 50. There's bars in the windows. It's not a glorious place. I recommend it. The people are like, why would you go in there? It's like the paint is like God's nectar.

Speaker 2:

It's unbelievable. It's a big morning star man as well.

Speaker 1:

That's what I, that's what see when you're talking about the racing I was in just by chance me and Dervla in the chair in town on Cheltenham Gold Cup day and. I was like we'll get something to eat and I just said we'll go to the morning star I've never been in there in my life was great and the place was packed it's a good bar in there with punters batting, and it was such a good atmosphere like it was class. See if horse racing's on.

Speaker 3:

You know the Guinness it's gonna be flowing.

Speaker 1:

It's gonna be flowing all day like fucking right.

Speaker 3:

There's a guy in there in every because they do they do a really good carvery. It's like to maybe like 7 or 8 quid, but it was. It was like fill your plate. At one point a couple years ago it was like 5 or something. And you can get like basically a Sunday dinner on, like a Tuesday at lunchtime, like every every weekday. They just have this, this like buffet on. But there's this guy in there every day and he just sits there with his glasses and he's planning all his bets for the day and he just has a pinter flowing.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't even talk to anyone. Yeah, they're just coming every couple of minutes.

Speaker 2:

Has all the odd dockets in his back pocket.

Speaker 1:

People like that. If they had any, they probably know every single jockey, every horse, every bit of form. Now see if they were smart enough to have their own wee fucking like punters gate or something. There's Cedar man from down south. Now he's like loaded, he's in private jets.

Speaker 2:

Now I was at a darts I got invited to like darts in the Odyssey and I was sitting around him and I was like he's flying in the chat in a helicopter but see him, earl, for a tip and say don't eat yellow snow or something, don't wipe your arse with a glass bottle or something like that there, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1:

It's cool. We won't give a game away. I know that's it. It's just Belfast Hamer, like old Belfast Hamer never see not what I'm loving at the minute. Never see on the graffiti. It's good crackling.

Speaker 2:

I don't have graffiti pees at school that's fucking brilliant. Some of the scenes here are brilliant we always talk about the Belfast style humour as well. There's a few podcasts. You talk about your dad, but me and Stevie always laugh.

Speaker 3:

We have some funny stories our dad's like and that's what I would say. A lot of like you know, like my work ethic is coming from, like a hard Belfast dad. Nothing's ever good enough. He's like nah, he'll never tell you well done. He'll like sort of like you know, like nod or something.

Speaker 1:

If it's, if it's, if it's alright or something Alright.

Speaker 3:

a story about your dad and you know with your room. You said your room was a mess so our house.

Speaker 2:

You go down the stairs. You know like the doors are open, you can see under the bed it's like a four post bed and I had a mate over staying one night and I had this primary school look. But I met him recently and he reminded me of it and my dad was going down the stairs and he says Conall fucking fruit market under there and I looked down under the bed and there was a single fucking apple sitting there everything blew out of proportion

Speaker 1:

but like proper character and then.

Speaker 2:

Stevie, we were down in Cork there recently, your dad, yeah, so because this is how we get on to this talk of conversation.

Speaker 3:

Because I told him about the Cork, because my dad would like give you, he would like he would crack up about something, and I would be like I would just think it's like not a big deal. But the odd time I'd ask my man, dad, can I borrow the car?

Speaker 3:

and there was a period where I didn't have a car, so I was borrowing their car and I borrowed it in like 2018, to go do a wee road trip around Ireland with my mates and we went camping and stuff for like three days and then, like about four years later, my car was getting fixed or something and then I was asking my dad can I borrow the car to go down to Cork? He goes that car's never out of Cork. It was like it was like four, maybe four to six years later, I hadn't even went down for the second time I hadn't even made it yet, I know but he always jokers, I don't go and joke.

Speaker 2:

Stevie was saying there about like getting a real job and stuff and Stevie's dad's been on there for years about getting a real job.

Speaker 3:

Told him before like do you get a real job like a window cleaner or something, no cleaner, so nothing's never gonna last, so business is going to strike the same I think, like I went to uni and I studied law, my parents probably thought I was he's gonna go on and actually, um, you know, become a lawyer, and you know have a really respectable career and, to be fair to them, they were like they were probably had my best interest at heart, because they're like what are you doing?

Speaker 3:

you're on, you know, making facebook posts and all you know what I mean you spent four years in university and you're just posting about, you know, like the best pint of Guinness in like court or something.

Speaker 1:

They can't see the potential on social media bigger picture.

Speaker 3:

But to be fair to them, now they're like.

Speaker 1:

Now they're actually like quite supportive now you've got a million followers there was years of torment, like, honestly, but they had, they were just.

Speaker 3:

I think any parent would be like, like, what are you doing? But I think it's like, like they didn't. Like they grew up in the era before the internet and they didn't see the potential and, to be fair, like no one really seen the potential. Like, yeah, one of the big things that I always got was how do you make money from that? Like, yeah, you know you've got a facebook page and then I have to explain well, basically anywhere that people look and there's eyeballs, you know people are looking at something. You can sell advertising space and you know, just having like a logo somewhere. Or you know, like, like with my website, you just signed up to like an ad platform and then the more views you got, the more you pay them with youtube.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know you can just go on google. Google will pay you the more views you got. But people don't really know that. So my parents, further than like they're like you spent all that time and money and you've got this big student loan and you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

So they're gonna be able to stick about that, but now they're actually are really supportive maybe you bought your first house out of it and your dad walked around probably didn't say well done.

Speaker 1:

Years ago when I went, I was saying about you, the diplomas in sport and tack. I left school, I done like lower 6th, upper 6th, got 8 levels and all, and then went to tack and done like no field tack. I was doing like a sport diploma in coaching and after like 3 or 4 months I got called onto the Irish team, the Bucks. But I was like a number 2 and was down training every day in Dublin. So I had to go and stay in Dublin Tuesday, thursday, wednesday, thursday, Thursday, thursday, thursday, thursday, thursday, bucks. But I was like a number two and I was down training every day in Dublin, so I had to go and stay in Dublin Tuesday, thursday every week or Tuesday to Friday.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, my dad didn't know about this Because he was going to work early in the morning and I was just going away and just playing it. But like I was going, it came to like June anyway. And I was going, it came to like June anyway and I was like waiting on, like everyone, the results would have been out for, like for the first year for TAC, basically, and we were driving to the airport. But he was driving me no, I'm sorry, he was driving me down the bus. I had to get the bus to Dublin because I was going to wait to box to Austria and he was like so when do you? What results?

Speaker 1:

I didn't know it he didn't know I was going to TAC for like the last six months because I was in Dublin training and I was like what results? He's like the results from your fucking from school, from TAC. And I went I haven't gone to TAC, he's fucking. You're Christ Devon. He's like what, what do?

Speaker 3:

you mean, you haven't gone to TAC.

Speaker 1:

You're fucking stupid. I was like I've been in Dublin training he was like what do you mean? You've been in Dublin training. I was on funding. I was getting like fucking tax free money. I was getting 12 grand from Dublin a year and like 8 grand from the north from Sport NI. So Sport Ireland and Sport NI were paying me like 20 grand a year tax free. And he was like what do you mean I'm going to? I mean I'm fucking going to Dublin, I'm getting paid. I'm like I'm unfunded.

Speaker 2:

He seemed as if you were down Dublin partying or something he was like you're fucking stupid.

Speaker 1:

I was like what the fuck he's like? I can't fucking believe this and I was like sitting going what the fuck is wrong with me? I want more money than him. Glenn Gould Street. The boss he got fucking speaking to me at home. I was like fucking hell. What way is he getting on?

Speaker 1:

this is what I've always wanted to do and I'm on the ice team now and he was like fucking stupid. And then like for years I was still on funding and then I won the ice elites and I was like number one in Ireland and I was going to work championships, european championships, paddy Barnes, macallan, like basically living in Dublin and he always in my ear what about down there? Can I do like something down there? What are you doing? Leave us alone. I'm all more money than you.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what can you like 20, because you weren't skilled in your sums. He didn't say his rating. Does he let it go yet?

Speaker 1:

no, he's let it go yet oh, he's had a good day here I have another cracker.

Speaker 3:

Actually it's about that, like we were me and my missus were looking, looking to get a car, a second-hand car, years ago it was about five years ago and, um, we, we were looking at this wee mazda too, you know, like it was a wee tiny car. It was a wee, um black car and it was. It was a cracker, was we? I don't really like big cars. I, like you know, like it was a wee tiny car, it was a wee black car and it was a cracker. It was a wee. I don't really like big cars. I like you know being able to park anywhere and it suited us. And my dad goes. He's like, yeah, my work, he's selling a Passat Estate here, have a look at it. And he showed me a like you know something he would like? And I was like, daddy, we wouldn't drive it. He goes that's a cracking car. There's not that many miles on it. You should go look at that.

Speaker 3:

And then I was like Daddy, we're going for the Mazda. So we got the Mazda right and we drove it for like probably three or four years and there was never any bother in it right. And then the ball joint went in one of the one, of the top of one of the wheels and it was like it was a quick fix, didn't?

Speaker 3:

do the garage, didn't do the garage and it was like a very quick fix. It was like 150 quid or something. But I told him oh, like you know, like four, probably four years later, after four or five years later, after he said, you get the Passat, and I was like, oh, the ball joints went in that Mazda.

Speaker 2:

He was just like I told you you should have got the Passat alright that's our Mazda.

Speaker 2:

I told you, so it's fucking well my dad sent me up to a boy in Lisburn one time. He was like you need to get new tyres in that car and he was like cracking a set of tyres he has months. He was like you'll go up and you'll wait. The place closes, meet him outside and then you know, slip him a 40 quid, he'll go and do the job. You know, I get up there and your mom put two tires in the front. He says, left them two black ones off. He was like they're actually better than the ones I have for you, he's like. So you'd be honest, mate, bought them, bought them tires in the dark earlier the other night. Like I said, who fucked up all these tires in the dark? They say my dad's to me. Oh, they're cracking cars.

Speaker 2:

He's putting so much trust into someone else it's never above the table, it's never going to pay the guy, it's always like slipping through the background that's just Belfast boy, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

everything's like oh, just get, just throw him a couple of quid and that's it. I know this fella they always. He's like Desi sell this campervan, look four grand. He's looking for a deal. I'm like four grand for a campervan, fuck me. When I was about two months old, I was on a. He was like no man. See, I'll send you a video. He sent me photos of it. He's like you'll never get that again, like you'll never get fuck a hair.

Speaker 2:

I was a dude, you were down in the hospital in a hotel.

Speaker 3:

Every time your flight gets cancelled and you get stuck somewhere, I told you you'd get that car he's like, and then I said I don't know, I'll say to Trum I'll be fucking class.

Speaker 1:

And then Trum was actually toying with the idea of we could do a podcast on that as well.

Speaker 2:

Right, you and Trum like Max and Paddy. Max and Paddy fucking on the road and over, I would be a good one.

Speaker 1:

you just get wee speakers and just get just get it like get it going, get a wee camera set up, get a wee camera set up, wee speakers and get a wee one hand. I just, or you can get it in the back of one hand camera vans, you just pull in and just talk shit take a different vehicle to Cork for a change.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm sad. The ball joins the way.

Speaker 1:

Ball joints away on that oh fuck, I'm burning, but here Cork. You told me Slago was your favourite place. Did you tell me?

Speaker 3:

I think Slago you were saying it's on the radar, but you said it's favourite I would say it's one of my favourite counties because all the people there are really dead on. It's like one of those places you go. Everyone seems really sound.

Speaker 3:

You've got just a beautiful coastline, ben Bulbin, like the mountain range it's like a you know, a flat top mountain range very similar to the one in South Africa, and landscapes unique, people are nice. Yeah, you know, all the pubs are class, it's just, and in town it's a beautiful wee town, sligo town, but all around Ireland and you know, and you know the people the west coast are really friendly. The west coast is probably the best west coast is best, isn't it for?

Speaker 2:

Slago's just a hidden gem.

Speaker 3:

I think people can rave about it enough. Everyone goes on about Galway and Cork. There's a lot of great places in Ireland, but I have a soft spot for.

Speaker 1:

Slago. Yeah, Galway's a great. We went to Dingle last year. It was powerful as well, some drive like f**k's sake. I had an S3, I had like an oldie S3, f**king cost me a fortune driving down there on petrol. F**k me 6 hour drive, 6 and a half hour I think maybe took me all in, but f**king powerful the rules aren't magic round here I didn't want to come home like it wasn't't overly busy when we went.

Speaker 1:

I think we went in September and it was like it wasn't overly busy, it was like just nice. You know what I mean. But the food spots were unbelievable, which surprised me the most, like the wee restaurants were fucking great.

Speaker 2:

I think that's what surprised a lot of people the most when they go to Ireland is like the food, because I think we're lucky here with the quality of produce, like the good lamb and stuff like that good lamb and good meat and all the rest of the potatoes and good fish.

Speaker 1:

But uh no, it's fucking like I've never seen sausages anywhere else. They're stinking. I've never got a sausage in England. They're stinking.

Speaker 2:

I know some of them are very sausages, even over in Germany. I've been to Germany a few times they're like rubber.

Speaker 1:

It's them fucking boil sausages in a jar a few times. They're like rubber, it's them fucking. They're not like no, I have sashes, boiled sashes, in a jar that's what they're like fucking stinking, but our sashes are the best in the world, I believe.

Speaker 2:

I think that's like one of things Ireland's doing well at the minute, isn't it like food, obviously be known for its music and the scenery scenery and stuff yeah, with the food that's one thing even in Belfast, here, like I know great no, like I had.

Speaker 1:

There was two girls in our gym, one from one's from like Monaghan and one's from Galway, and we had this. I was coaching the two of them the other night and we had this debate about like tea bags and one loves Barry's tea, lans tea, and they were like no lans, and they had the lans and barys tea debate and I was like non, barry smokes a tea of them.

Speaker 2:

I was like non barry what the?

Speaker 1:

fuck's non barry. I was like you've just lived here for years. You just don't know what non barry tea bags are. People are so like passionate about their own, like what they it's like. I had this conversation I a couple weeks ago about Chinese. You just never see whenever you go. Where do you get your Chinese from?

Speaker 2:

they're like the one.

Speaker 1:

I like they're like oh, I get it from fucking Hong Kong College. I go what Hong Kong College? Is stinking and they go what what the fucking they're so passionate, I go. You didn't kick it relax.

Speaker 2:

I don't like it.

Speaker 3:

Hong Kong College is stinking too spicy in there, but everyone's so tribal about it everyone that's why all, like you know, like the debates about Guinness, like all these things? Like everyone gets whatever anyone likes, here it becomes a debate where's the best Guinness is? Guinness the best, like you know Chinese's yeah even we keep going on about Cork here.

Speaker 2:

But that time we went down like we were drinking Murphys and Beamies and like you'll not get a drop of guinness anywhere in court.

Speaker 1:

Beamies is great, but I like beamies I prefer murphy's.

Speaker 2:

But like, don't drink guinness anywhere down there, like the trouble about it down there too but it's good.

Speaker 1:

It's good we change for people too. They're still getting stout and then they're almost being forced to drink something else, like for a two hours to come.

Speaker 2:

They're going to drink guinness all over.

Speaker 1:

Ireland anyway. So we're going to Cork and being forced to get enough drink at Murphy's. If someone goes to a bartender or a bar like a barman in Cork, can you get me a Guinness. An American, hey, can you get me a Guinness Guinness? Oh god, have a Murphy's. Like what? What's a Murphy's?

Speaker 2:

and then it opens their mind and they go fuck, that was lovely.

Speaker 1:

And go to another county further up the company and be like can I have a Murphy's?

Speaker 2:

a Murphy's, we'll hit you. You couldn't get much Murphy's around here either. Yeah we'll hit you a cork as long as you're not drinking that what he called four star stuff, that's out the window. It's gone.

Speaker 1:

That's fucking shit. Anyway, it's dirt, pure dirt did you try it?

Speaker 3:

I actually didn't get around to trying it and obviously McGregor, I've sort of went off, like a lot of people have really went off Conor McGregor for a long list of reasons, but I think I couldn't drink that stout after a while.

Speaker 1:

People are going to vote for him. Who votes for him?

Speaker 2:

who go like is he serious about that to himself in the running he's trying to fucking like the country's going wild.

Speaker 1:

You, fucking Jerry Hutch, fucking non-gangster bank robber going, running for fucking, running for fucking a seat. You've Conor McGregor. What's going on like?

Speaker 2:

everyone. I was listening to one the other day that Frostbite boy, god he's he actually.

Speaker 1:

He fucking thinks he's king of.

Speaker 2:

Ireland. I know, I know, but he actually has some things nailed down like the political perspective.

Speaker 1:

He's funny. He's funny like he's.

Speaker 2:

He's the best out of the three. Yeah, he's the best of bad ones he's a good lad he's funny, I really I have.

Speaker 1:

Like I was reading, I was watching one of his clips. The other day I came up him up on tiktok and it was like him saying he swam off the coast of somewhere and it was like 11 kilometers long and he was going over this like castle off the coast of ireland, somewhere I can't remember where it was, and these english boys were like hosting the podcast and they were like what? They couldn't believe it and then everyone was getting stuck underneath and saying he's a lying cunt. The coast guards came and got him like one kilometer offshore, he, he almost drowned and he wasted some ice off and all so people were like hating on him from here.

Speaker 1:

I know him, he's from now to turn and he's a fucking scammer and I was like, even if he's telling lies, it's a good story, it's funny.

Speaker 2:

How can you not? That's it. Don't let the truth get in the way. Exactly that's it. John Biddle's always text me I was like did that actually happen, john?

Speaker 3:

and he's like never let the treats get in the way of a good story that's it yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was like sad you had sprinkled a wee bit of something on top, even if it was a true story see, like my wee lad, I had my wee lad walking to. Cranmore Park peelers. So he was.

Speaker 1:

I was laughing and people were texting me. He knew me, like close to me and close to my family, were like fuck me. He definitely gets off from your dad because my dad would tell a story and then just go like a part of it would be true and he'll just exaggerate the fucking life or the whole rest of it.

Speaker 2:

What do you say to him when you're gonna going to get locked up? And he says but I'd knock a peeler's head or something.

Speaker 1:

He says I'll get you ice cream. And I says well, I've got any money on you. And he says, no, I'll just smash the window and get the cone and grab the ice cream and give it to you. And I says then you'll get arrested. He says I'll get the cops and I'll just knock them out. But like there was, this and I says that's because it's you can see them and it's just like, oh, like that, like. Why is he saying like the cops, there's, the cops there's the cops?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I'm just dying. Is there a coming for you any?

Speaker 1:

time you hear a siren or anything trying to take a seatbelt off in the car and they're like seatbelt there because he keeps trying to take his seatbelt off so we better keep him in his car seat.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean there's a lot of fear mongering like that with kids isn't there, you have to tell them stuff like that. It's like whenever you're walking through the shopping centre and he used to be there's a man or that man's going to take you away and then there's a fucking big bad man down there.

Speaker 1:

If you're trying to, run away.

Speaker 2:

That's it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I'd do it on him. He doesn't care about it. He doesn't care. Like yesterday in the town. We were walking through town, through Yon Street, and he wanted to go into a shop Paseo Duns, nowhere. Uh, what do you call it? Well, it's Paseo Duns, anyway he was. He wouldn't leave. We came down joy's entry I'm not bad street and he wouldn't leave and I was like hang on. So he was squealing, kicking, so I just walked on, me and everybody walked on and I stood outside the dr martin shop and he must have been 25 meters down the street on his own, going daddy, daddy, squealing daddy. And I was just going, no, and he's like come on. I was like come on, he's like I ain't gonna leave you. So I pretend to hide her in the corner. And I just stood there and I was watching through the window and then these two old ladies went over to him and I was like are you okay?

Speaker 1:

and he was like standing like that and we're like where's your mummy, where's your daddy? And I was up and down going, fuck's sake, they're going hang the worst guy in the world here. And then they turn around and they're looking, they're looking for me, the kid's fucking parents. I was like he's with me, he's just leaving me, he's all right, I can see him. And they were like all right, they come up. And they were Scottish. They were like oh, fucking, little bastard, they fucking. I was like fuck you, look like yous were gonna give me shit. Now yous are them shit.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say you were down there talking about me to him. Now you're up here talking to me. Do you ever see Ed Scottie's video? And it's like the fella and the wee kids like pulling themselves up and the woman's like that fella's going to steal your Jimmy and he looks at her and he's like no, I'm fucking no no fucking do.

Speaker 3:

Scottish are so funny they're like.

Speaker 1:

They're honestly hilarious like they were see, like you see a text message or something in Scottish, like a Scottish humour page or something, you read it. You read it in a Scottish accent it's funny as fuck, but their humour is fucking burning down.

Speaker 2:

We were over there in Glasgow at the weekend. Like the Celtic match, you get some characters of like oh, big time did you say you live in Glasgow?

Speaker 3:

yes, so like I missed her, like I was in between jobs well, I was. I was working on a job in England after uni and I was building websites and all. And then I ended up like I was in this job and I wasn't really enjoying it, and then I'd just seen, I just Brendan Rogers got. Brendan Rogers got the Celtic job in my life.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I Brendan Rodgers got the Celtic job in my life.

Speaker 3:

And then I was like you know, like lost in life, but I'm a big Celtic fan. And then I was like, what do I do next?

Speaker 1:

the answer is and you can get goings-per-throw.

Speaker 3:

I was like something magic's gonna happen here. This is 2016. And then I was like you know what, I'll look for a few jobs up in Scotland and I bought a Celtic season ticket just moved up. I didn't really know anyone, but he was, I was in Newcastle.

Speaker 2:

I surfed in Glasgow for years. I used to be up every Saturday morning.

Speaker 1:

We lived there as well, we actually lived in. We lived in Paddy, we lived in Bathwell. It was fucking class where we lived in Bathwell. And then we moved to Holytown, which was like Motherwell fucking shithole over there like Jesus Christ but yeah it's rough, but it's got a certain Genesee quagmire it's class.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 1:

I love it over. It's very similar to Belfast. The people are very similar to Belfast, but I think the humour.

Speaker 3:

I just love Scottish people, like the closest, like Belfast and like the Glasgow area, like we're just, we're just so similar.

Speaker 1:

Similarities. Similarities are, like the food's horrific over, like I have to say, the food is fucking just batter everything. Tons of fucking iron brew everywhere and it's like I never really thought it was a thing you know like the iron brew thing, until I moved over and I was like fuck me, it literally is everywhere like think, were like is it McDonald's or something?

Speaker 3:

they have iron brew, iron brew on tap and coke.

Speaker 2:

It sells coke, or something, does it?

Speaker 3:

I can't remember the fact, but like a lot of the chains, fast food chains have iron brew that's mad isn't it beside coke? And no other country in the world has that? It's absolutely mad and it's more popular Than cocaine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's fucking, it's everywhere. Like I have said, my brother lived there as well, working for him, and he's like, oh, I used to joke about it, it was like years before. And he's like, oh, I was on the On the armory Drinking that ball's armory, like fuck. I said why you can get it.

Speaker 2:

Here you can get it. He's like I don't just to hang about or just keep drinking all this arm brew, big ball arm brew product of your society, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

that's exactly it when I lived there, I think it was 2016-17.

Speaker 3:

They changed the recipe because there's so much sugar in it. They reduced the sugar they were like they reduced the sugar and it's down to 63 calories or something, and but then everyone was panicking.

Speaker 1:

In Scotland they were like I'm getting rid of the original flavour, and they were like people take it to the streets, fuck you.

Speaker 3:

But no, like literally. There was people literally buying crates of iron brew and as soon as the new flavour came out with the reduced calories, it was on.

Speaker 1:

Facebook marketplace original iron brew can for like 4 quid a can and all Jesus that's it fucking flogging it. They've done that with liquor's aid too, and there was a big fucking kick up about it. I think like the orange liquor's aid people, because I always remember throwing my cock going. That's fucking stinking. There used to be a dick with that shit and I don't even like it because of the juice, be a bit grateful like here you're just fucking everyone's slandering it and Scottish, like they could do with fucking.

Speaker 1:

They're all headers. As it is, the less sugar the better. You know what I mean. Fuck's sake. But ah, ah, fucking great city like nonetheless.

Speaker 3:

Glasgow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's unbelievable and like just, the bars are amazing it is like there's a big saying Glasgow, people make Glasgow, but it is true like absolute character isn't there, there's no like I've never, ever had a Guinness.

Speaker 1:

A nice Guinness in Glasgow I've never really heard of anywhere. Like, like no one's ever actually told me to go here for a Guinness. They're all sugar mad. They're in the Guinness in Ireland.

Speaker 3:

I'd say, like you know about Guinness in Ireland, but outside of Ireland it doesn't travel. Well, I knew a guy who was quite close to Guinness and he works in the drinks industry and he was saying outside of Ireland they pressurize the kegs differently. Basically, in Ireland Guinness has to be drank within one month, so the keg needs to be drank, and also Guinness have official basically Guinness inspectors that go around and make sure it's poured correctly and check everything about the setup, whereas outside of Ireland it's not treated as well.

Speaker 3:

And it's not inspected and the Guinness basically can be drank up to three months after. I think Guinness is a bit like bread, like it goes off quickly and if it's not poured, crack.

Speaker 1:

all these wee things add up to a perfect pint, so it's supposed to be massive in africa, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

yeah, so nigeria is actually the number one guinness drink country in the world. Um, I think like 1930s, um, the british British started exporting Guinness to Nigeria and the Nigerians just loved it, and then they started exporting more and the first Guinness brewery outside of Ireland and the UK is actually in Nigeria. And yeah, it's just, it's just metal, but the Guinness they drink over there is foreign export. I think you call it. It's like a seven. They've made it like stronger. It's probably spicier as well.

Speaker 1:

I haven't actually tried it. I worked in the Trinidad years ago when I was working at a Kristen and we run out of Guinness glasses and everything. My first experience was going like what the fuck? Why are they drinking? And someone in the bar was like, oh, actually, they fucking that's like that's one of the most popular, like the most popular drink over there.

Speaker 2:

He's a little bit of a Kansas. He's a little bit of a Kansas. We run out of glasses.

Speaker 1:

I was like there's no fucking glass left, had to fucking bring in a glass clicker. Just keep sweeping the floor. They were just sculling Guinness all day and there was no on from two to fucking. There's a like every Christmas two o'clock. You probably pop up at half three, four. He's going to put the door two o'clock, paint it, paint it again, let's go, boom. And it was just non-stop all day. I don't think there was another drink order Guinness, guinness, guinness, women and all just going paint it, paint it again. I was like fuck were running out in the ring fucking heavy. What would your pint be? Do you drink Guinness? I drink Guinness or Harp or Whiskey.

Speaker 3:

Harp's like sort of a dying beer now. You used to get it everywhere. I love Harp. Harp's great, see if you go and get it like Davids.

Speaker 1:

The Davids do a really nice pint of Harp. They actually do a really nice pint of Guinness too.

Speaker 2:

Davids Bar it's we used to live away, though, like that's one of the things you look forward to coming home to like a pint of harp.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a pint of harp you get Guinness of Herb you don't get harp anymore. I was at my honeymoon in Sorrento. Walked down big harp sign and it said a wee Irish bar on the main street. I was like there's no way they sell harp. Walked in fucking harp I whacked. Fuck me, where would you get it? The apprentice harp and saranto sitting scumming.

Speaker 2:

Proper harp as well. It wasn't just a different beer, it was proper harp, like oh, fucking, I was going about it.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't as nice as back here, but it was a harp. You can tell it's a harp. I drink harp regularly. Like when I get a case of beer had the surge over like lockdown and stuff and they were great for like for lockdown. And I haven't. I actually still have a brand new one that I hadn't even opened yet, because I bought it from a mate and I never, ever give it to him. So fuck him, stevie, you're not getting it. I'm taking it, bring back the. But they, they're, they're the ticket. Like they were the fucking for lockdown. They were great, I was having bingo and fucking monodrive and turf lodge.

Speaker 1:

I had bingo in fucking Monadred in Turf Lodge. I had bingo going all the ones. 42. Turf Lodge bingo but I bought a keg off Paddy Lawson or a sorry, a pump and a cooler, a cooler box and and gas and all this carry on. I bought all the gear for for paint, so all the barter clothes, and I was pulling paints on my street and we were on bingo. It was fucking late. We had a wee cold, the second turf, so it was great big house fire on the go.

Speaker 1:

It was big big queue down my street.

Speaker 3:

It was such a weird time. Everyone was like bring it back, bring it back. I fucking missed it it was fucking out of my house black four in the morning drinking whiskey listening to Paul and everyone's like it was a week where, like I could get used to this and then everyone started going madder and madder yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just need to stop it goes in waves, you get bored of it and then like you want the back, sort of thing some people have no cover from like their lifestyle.

Speaker 1:

I look back at it with the glasses, but definitely wasn't as good as it was people think like see in our gym, see the amount of people we've like reached out to like, and they're like say, like we do sales calls or whatever for mods. They're like I haven't done anything before COVID, like I just can't like and they can't, they've just lost their own themselves their old outgoing selves.

Speaker 1:

they've probably developed just a wee habit of being a hermit and not going out. Oh, people have just lost them, like completely lost them. It's sad as well, Don't go through your confidence.

Speaker 3:

See if you work from. Some people work from home all the time. I know they're just sort of it's your social skills.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, isolation and stuff.

Speaker 1:

See, I had the right. I was out and about everywhere. My dad, you're off. My dad has pigeons right. He's had pigeons when he was 16, racing pigeons his whole life. So he has pigeon lung right, he's fucked his lungs. He can't even walk 100 metres and he used to go to me every day. You're gonna fucking kill me. You're fucking out here everywhere, fucking whatever you're doing, fucking cali-fumping around the area pigeon lungs gonna kill you. I'm doing?

Speaker 2:

what is it the?

Speaker 1:

lungs and the pigeons, because when you're in the pigeon shades your whole life like all the bacteria from the and the dust and the bacteria and the shit and all like you're just inhaling all that shit does he race them or all that?

Speaker 2:

he's raced them his whole life? How?

Speaker 1:

does that have? Like they're, they're trained like, yeah, like he, he wears them from their their young obviously the lay eggs, and then he wears them up and then he flies him out and a flock, like the younger pigeons with the more um experienced prisons, and then they fly around. But they always come back to his. So he, you train them up that way and then you start, when you're training them, you put them in a pigeon hopper and then they say he would bring them down to like Ross Traver, let them off, drive home, and then they'll fly straight back.

Speaker 1:

They always go back to where they come from and then to be hungry. So he would like there's a, there's a method to feeding them so you have to feed them at a certain time, so, like when you're flying them, they're still a bit hungry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because they're always going to fly back to get fed. That's the reason they want to get home to get fed and get water. So you let them fly almost hungry and then dig them in, and then that's your way of getting them back into the shed. So you throw pigeon corn into the shed and then they'll fly off the roof and into the shed to get fed.

Speaker 1:

Seriously and you lock them up Unbelievable, unbelievable but they've all got a ring on them, a pigeon ring on their foot, yeah, and that there's your number and that's your. That's how you're able to clock it. So basically, he won like the france derby.

Speaker 3:

So they flew, they went to france, they go on a boat to go on the pageant to go to s here they get on, they sit there and then they can track. Can they track them on a mop?

Speaker 1:

or something.

Speaker 3:

There's a pigeon club in Aye there's loads of pigeon clubs.

Speaker 1:

There's one in Twinbrook, there was one in.

Speaker 1:

Avie one in Gravenor. There's loads of pigeon clubs. They're all over Belfast, like, and they all go to different. They all go to the same race but they represent different clubs. So, like France, they all got let off at the same time and it's just whoever gets home first. But some houses are further away than others. So like, let's say, for example, my dad lives in Turf Loads and someone lives in Ballysellin. It'll fly to Turf. They, they try and they, they uh, go by distance and average the like. They average the, the pace of the pigeon. So they'll take that off and give it. Everyone gets a fair average, so it's fair. And then if you win, then fuck. But pigeons sell for like 40 grand now.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say did your dad ever sell any to Mike Tyson? He never did like. Oh, I know he was here. Mike Tyson, come over, bought pigeons in the Falls Road.

Speaker 1:

Now oh, I was, but there's he's mad pigeon racers.

Speaker 2:

It's a big thing with pigeons.

Speaker 1:

Liverpool is very popular for pigeons as well. Scooters are very well into it.

Speaker 2:

It must be a real working class thing.

Speaker 1:

It's a real working class thing and even Americans. They were seeing the old American thumbs as they had there to clap. There are two different types of pigeons Tiplers fly high whoever can stay in the sky the longest and fly the highest. And then there's ones that fly for distance. So, like Americans, even in, like the ghetto in America, they were shaping, they're clapping the pigeons.

Speaker 2:

Well, that makes sense with Mike Tyson.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's why it's a real working class thing. But like they fuck the prepper, like they're, like my dad's given his whole life to that. Basically to pigeons and he's fucking slapping me about fucking COVID. He says if you never raised pigeons in your whole life, you wouldn't have a pigeon on you and you'd be alright. And then it's just as I say I just done my own hangover, covid, and then you'd taken over the family dynasty and whenever. I would have got the pigeons in for him.

Speaker 2:

All my other brothers can't get pigeons for a walk. I went down the street fucking the pigeon lead oh fuck.

Speaker 1:

But oh now my wee lad. He loves him, but there are others. I was like I have a video on my phone. My dad gives me a wee small, like wee ticket it's only like a wee new, fucking newborn pigeon and he has it in his hand. He was like can I fly? And he just does that and I did that and I was like fuck, but it was okay.

Speaker 3:

the pigeon like but I seen this TikTok video and it went viral and it was like, have you ever seen a baby pigeon? And but it's very and this guy explained it it's very unlikely because when they ever leave the nest, because when they're in the nest. They're basically nearly fully grown.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like no one's ever seen. You've obviously seen the yellow one.

Speaker 1:

They're yellow, they're like. They're like the wee yellow easter chicks, you see, on an easter egg. That's what they're like. They're like, they're like, they're like. They're like they're like fake things. You see, that's just what they're like wee yellow things, wee bally, fucking yellow fur the pigeon up. But because they're my dad's and they're in his shed, he can just lift them out whenever he wants. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

So is that what it means? Like if you hadn't been a boxer, you'd be a pigeon, pigeon man.

Speaker 1:

I'd be standing fucking up in a pigeon club in Farnbrook smoking fags, drinking pants.

Speaker 2:

If you hadn't been a boxer, why would you be a virgin? A virgin, I.

Speaker 1:

What do you call him Crouch?

Speaker 2:

says Peter Crouch Peter.

Speaker 1:

Crouch says that's class, that's a classic like at the thing of him going about the meme. Did you ever see the big, the late?

Speaker 2:

ah, jesus, rip Peter Crouch. That one you're reading it like oh late and it's wrapped up late. Did you ever see the? The big, tall flow?

Speaker 1:

late, they're all carrying it like they're pushing on a hanging. It's a big long hang. We're like wrapped in like fucking rubber plastic or something to keep it from getting wet. And everyone says Peter Crouch is getting straddled off the pitch and he keeps like waiting saying fucks sake, my family are getting worried about me, but for the, will you please stop showing it. It's not me, he's so funny, isn't he?

Speaker 2:

he's burning so he is. You're sitting here with mean royalty there like royalty, sorry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, someone was telling me like Tanvi are playing like a Premier League Legends club and he's like or the Premier League Legends, so Tanvi from Belfast T with me, I think, shane Todd or something they're going to do like a charity match and I think one of the Tanvi representatives representatives emailed Peter Critch's team, his management, to see if he were coming and they were looking for 100 grand he's looking for one match that's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1:

That's where you want to get to in life. 100 grand, you can go there and test the Guinness. Give me 100 grand.

Speaker 2:

I'll test your Guinness pubs for a hundred.

Speaker 1:

Give me a hundred grand, I'll test your minutes. Fuck me, I'll be somebody to live.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even cover my court case with the WWE.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know what about that. What's going on here? Where are you at now? Is it like?

Speaker 2:

it's just one of them. Things like you can't take knickers off a bar arse, as I say first give some context your business and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Aye, so basically, like Stevie was saying he was making websites and whatever, and like I've always been into like the more artistic side of it, you know the graphic design and that so helped him out making the websites and you know designing his merchandise and stuff. But talking about lockdown, there I said wrestling is the only sport that didn't stop, you know. So I was like what can I do here? Sort of thing. So, like new wrestling t-shirts were big and like football tops these days, you know, like all the old ones are selling for a fortune.

Speaker 2:

It was the same thing, yeah, the retro ones and I was like I could probably replicate a few of them myself. So done it and made a website, wrestling Tee Customs and that was great and, you know, had the ads up and whatever. Like this big anticipated drop paid a drop, sold a couple of wrestling t-shirts. I was like fuck, is that the sort of money you can make with this? You know, it actually went really well and this is the first week. I went on the Monday, you know, to check the orders and that, and the website was completely gone. I was like what the fuck? So I'd already had a few extra designs, you know, in lieu there and I went on the emails and the email was like shut, wwe intellectual property. And they were like you try that again, you know you'd be in big trouble, basically like a slap in the wrist sort of thing. So that was fine, but it was the Undertaker's last match.

Speaker 1:

The next week Can't hold back Too much opportunity in it still had the website domain and stuff.

Speaker 2:

So I said I already had four Undertaker designs done.

Speaker 2:

I'm laughing at it now it seems so stupid. I launched the website, done the whole thing all over again. That was great, like load of money and load of orders and it was great weekend. Same thing went on the monday to check the orders and the website was down and at the top of the email it was wwe intellectual property and it just says right, let's try this again. The biggest cease and desist letter, but it was uh for 100. They're trying to do this for 110 grand per design. I think I'd donate like and say like it made good money on it, but like I'm not talking thousands or anything it was just a couple of extra quid in the sky rockets I was one of them, ones like this, dodging it.

Speaker 2:

You know, as I was saying, you can't take knickers off a bar, you don't have that money sitting there.

Speaker 1:

What are you going to do?

Speaker 2:

but it's been one of them. Things ongoing I get the odd email and the box.

Speaker 1:

You know the odd time he just like he just took the back burner on their table. Yeah, I mean see, to be honest how far are they going to go over it like if you don't have the money? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

I just think of hearing we over Belfast. Like you're untouchable sort of thing I suppose you are in a way, do you know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean we're the same, we're mates, we're all brass knacks in a way, I suppose ah, fuck right, just grind it out. And then the worst, like it happened to me with like I'll just hold out, hold out, hold out, hold out. And then it ends up Sometimes Like you be optimistic and it works in your favour. A few things have worked in my favour. I'm like when are they If?

Speaker 2:

you bury your head deep enough For a little while past. Yeah, then we faint.

Speaker 1:

Like the toll, like 50, like the M50 toll in Dublin. I must have had about Fucking 40 grand on that Because I haven't never paid up, ever in my life, and I still get letters to the house.

Speaker 3:

I'm not paying that it's a seat down south if you don't pay up.

Speaker 2:

One day I'm gonna end up fucking.

Speaker 1:

One day Ireland's gonna become like a United Ireland and they're just gonna come up and wrap my. They're gonna go. You was a fucking fortune.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna go. Man's waiting that I get myself together and he's going to come take my house.

Speaker 1:

He's got good ideas and he looks like he's got a bright future. But I did.

Speaker 2:

I chanced it afterwards I was like, is it really that much of a threat to us? You know, if it is that much of a threat to us, like wouldn't mind the graphic design yeah 100% nothing ever came of it. That's what happened with Nick.

Speaker 1:

Did you ever read the book Shoe Dog? Your man who owns Nick?

Speaker 1:

Phil Knight he was like in that book I was reading it and one of the best books I've ever read it was class. When he started designing and going really well with his shoes, he was like he opened like two it was his first two big like things in a chain like massive, big warehouses where we're making the shoes. And then like two months later he got someone. He seen someone on the track wearing these trainers neck trainers. He's like damn that man. I've never made that colourway or had this in. So we went over and approached the guy. He's like where did you get these? He was like, oh, I got them as a gift. My girlfriend got them from a stall down the street. And he was like, fuck, that sounds like something nice to do, because he used to do stalls.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they were selling them out of. Car boot selling them out of fucking.

Speaker 1:

But then someone else was selling them from like a hanging chain. So he contacted. He actually got on a flight and flew to China and brought the shoes with him. Um, he said he actually gave your mom money for the shoes, like the full price. He said they were like seventy dollars. He gave him like a hundred dollars, cause that's much the full price ones that he was selling were. So we went to China or something and then they found out where this warehouse was and I approached him. I was like who made these? They're mine. And I was like copyright, this is my fucking brand. And we're like oh, so he's like look, I'm not going to take legal action but you should work for me he's work for me, because they're that good they're like the fakes, are that good and they're a fucking quality design.

Speaker 2:

You should work for me that's what they say, isn't it? Imitation is the biggest sign of flattery. Yeah, 100%. That's your way, that's me I'd say I still do like bootleg t-shirts and stuff and merch and all that.

Speaker 1:

There it it's good like see the only thing we're missing, like, but I suppose we're not in the way like, but do you ever see, like when you go to Croke Park and stuff for concerts and there's like wee stalls set up and all and there's people selling merch and shit like that there, like we were walking, even like drink, we were walking to a Coldplay concert, and there's all these wee houses were selling buckets of beer, fucking 25 quid for four bottles of fucking same if we go to all Ireland and all like we're all like making a mint.

Speaker 1:

If we had that here, you'd just have us set a wee stop and replicate the merch and just be like that's it.

Speaker 2:

You'll see me outside the Odyssey next time.

Speaker 1:

Wwe fucking right, get the fucking, get the Undertaker back. Get him back, just for me, just for me. We've still got these. We've still got these ones in production. You get any merch. He can sort you out. I don't know, but I swear I was talking about this beforehand.

Speaker 2:

The Portnations merch to you sure, your next fight, I'll be selling them out to you. You'll be money. You'll be money dickhead.

Speaker 3:

You'll be a tenner dickhead darn hell, would you be raging if someone had your face and was making loads of money outside one of your fights?

Speaker 1:

Nah, I'm happy for everyone.

Speaker 3:

What if it was a million quiddies?

Speaker 1:

I'd just say, give me 10% of my quid. But do you know what See like? Years ago, o'neill's made a t-shirt with my face on it. I didn't know. They never, ever told me they were doing it and I couldn't do nothing about it, because Irish boxing, irish amateur boxing, had the image rates. They had the image rates for for our any fighters. But they had my. They still sell it. In fact, I was doing a 10k run in Belfast on St Paddy's Day and there was someone who approached me with that same top on.

Speaker 1:

He was like there's me that's me on that top and he was laughing, but he knew who it was because it was a boxing t-shirt. It's an Irish boxing t-shirt, but it's like it's me, it's me on it. And I contacted O'Neill's and said and says that's me on that tab, like I was never told about this and like yeah, we have um a major, it's the Irish Championship Boxing, so there's nothing in there you've never seen a panning, he says send me a tab at least.

Speaker 1:

So he sent me a tab. Never worked like I don't even know where it is. To be honest with you, but, like I brought it to New York I think a load of years ago and a load of years ago and more over there and never seen it again.

Speaker 3:

So I'm going to New York, probably on the Bout for Don put it that way we've done merch for a few people, like a few characters about Belfast we launched Jelva's Pelvis oh jeez, that's a story in itself because he was going viral on TikTok a couple years ago and there was a period where, like hundreds of thousands of views, all those videos were doing really well but where our office was in town where me and Stevie were working out of.

Speaker 2:

Do you know where Starbucks is? We were working in the office next door to theirs. All you heard all day was Javis. Javis Paz Dulcet Tones, and it was like an ongoing joke in the office.

Speaker 3:

It was like suspicious minds. Many times it was. It's the fourth time that I we sing about the same five songs, but when you're in an office listening to these guys, it's constant.

Speaker 3:

And then everyone in the office is like, oh, here we go again. But you were in and we were basically me, matt and Ireland, my meme page. We were trying to like monetize it in different ways and we were like working out, well, what could we do? We'll launch like some merch and do do like funny Irish t-shirts. And then you just had the idea and you were like imagine selling Jelvis Palace merch.

Speaker 2:

It would be so random, he was like 40,000 followers you just mocked up a design and you were like look at this.

Speaker 3:

And I was like that is unbelievable. And I just messaged him on Instagram and I was like are you in town today? We'd like to talk about maybe doing a merch deal. And then he was like yes, in costa.

Speaker 2:

And I was like right now and he was like, yeah, it was around the corner. Yeah, that made him walk around. What was?

Speaker 3:

he like we walked in and I know we've never met him before and we just wanted to approach him about it. We'll look, we'll sell your merch. Basically all I wanted to say to him was we'll sell your merch and any of the profits. Like we'll sort everything out. Any sales we get 50-50 split of the profits, but for each t-shirt you'd be talking like you might make like five or eight quid a t-shirt and then half that with him sold well, like better than you'd expect.

Speaker 2:

But see, that day we went down to meet him like the guy's. Obviously it's well documented. You know he's a caffeine addict. He'd load empty tins of lucasade and all in the bag and like he was a coffee deep and stevie stevie says to him do you want another one of them? Do you know he just finished one of them, big mugs that you get. Fuck me. He said go. He just finished a large latte and I go um, we're going to get a coffee.

Speaker 3:

Do you want a latte, do you want a coffee? And he was like do you want an orange?

Speaker 2:

and he was like aye, but he was telling us he'd been kicked out of his accommodation and stuff and he's busking his only source of income. He's going through a rough time. Stevie had me with a laptop. He had the girl from marketing for the business and obviously presenting him this line of merch that he was going to get. Stevie was saying you need to do absolutely no work for it. We'll market it for you, we'll sell it to the website and you'll get 50% of everything. Obviously he snapped his hand off, but we came out of the meeting after and Stevie looked at me and he went. I'm surprised he said yeah, laughter just pay him a coffee.

Speaker 1:

Coffee beans well, but he was.

Speaker 2:

He was dead on, he was a good crack to work with and stuff.

Speaker 1:

I seen a thing where he said he's retired and then he came back and then actually people want me to be Jelvis. He put the video he put on.

Speaker 3:

He said it was talked about in the Whiskey Mate podcast, run the mean mind on the mean page. And Jelvis, he was like. He put up a post and he was like I'm never wearing that white suit again for anyone. I'm done with Elvis and all. You'll never see me as a Jelvis again. So Jelvis is the alter ego, not him. He's called Jordan. So I was like so I put a post up, wrote an article and it was like the article click baity breaking Jelvis pelvis is dead, but if you read the article it says Jelvis Pelvis is dead, and then it goes can I have a big wake up?

Speaker 1:

yeah?

Speaker 3:

so it says in the article. The article's still on there and it's like. The second line is like before you drop your coffee, jordan the guy he's alive, but Jelvis is the stage the alter ego is actually. He's alive, but Jelvis is the. You know the stage the alter ego is actually well technically dead. No longer so. But it was a bit clickbaity and all but.

Speaker 1:

I put it up. It was clickbaity. It was clickbaity, but that's the solution. Everyone was losing their minds.

Speaker 3:

I guess it's disgusting. What is this page doing and all. And I was like, have you read the article? It's a satire page. I take the piss out of people sometimes. And he even accepted the collaborator tag and he was sort of he's like oh, I'm obviously not dead, haha. And he was involved in the joke but some people, some people are like unfollow people are sad, like do you get much backlash from anything you do?

Speaker 1:

like I was just like weirdly like there's a.

Speaker 3:

Obviously I took the piss out of McGregor recently for a few things, but some things you put out and you're like you don't think anyone is gonna even like argue with you, and there's people who would like argue with a brick wall in the empty room and people are like he's making a point, the McGregor, full stop.

Speaker 3:

It's not about his points or anything, it's just I don't think he's a nice guy and I'm taking the piss out of him and people like you take the piss out of him and people get the fend. But yeah, because I don't put my face on it that much, I don't get too much flack, but you always get bad comments you do?

Speaker 1:

you argue or slobber?

Speaker 2:

you call yourself a public nuisance. I was joking with Stevie. He's a real public nuisance. I was talking about public nuisance torturing people across the country rest in peace, jealous rest in peace.

Speaker 3:

Jealous, he made a thing saying I'm back two days later after that, he's wearing a white suit again.

Speaker 1:

He's back he said I'm back and people are like saying you just be whoever of you want to be and all like don't be doing anything for anyone else, because he's saying well, it seems like everybody wants me just to be, so I'll give the people what they want. And Javis is back.

Speaker 2:

He lost a lesson. Jamie Bryson didn't have a restrict. It's like fuck me not fuck exactly.

Speaker 1:

He's just like cutting he probably. What would he have done? Like what nothing else would work?

Speaker 3:

no, he's javas I think people do love java, I think, to be fair. I think about this, about like um, do you ever see bands that have been around for like 30 years and they're playing the same songs? Yeah, like I, I get bored of stuff very quickly. I have no idea what they go through. I know van morrison. He refuses to play a lot of the songs because he just does his own thing. But I think, like I mean, if you're singing Elvis songs every day, you would get bored. I'm sure he just throws up the head but he started doing that thing, didn't he?

Speaker 2:

where he went in the singing lessons and then he started singing other songs like. Elvis would, and I thought that was pretty good, like you know, that's still within the niche still there.

Speaker 1:

He's some fucking commitment to come up here Belfast hell, rain or snow freezing, where's he? Is he?

Speaker 3:

that's why we loved him because, like we were, like, because we it was literally raining outside and we were in the office and like he was just giving it, he was just going for it like suspicious man and he was like shaking his pelvis, and then we were like Fair play to him. He works harder than anyone.

Speaker 1:

Seriously, I meant the caffeine in there. Yeah, but he was he's like Belfast, fooling him.

Speaker 2:

You know yourself Absolute characters and that is what makes it Do that with some of Belfast.

Speaker 1:

They always have that Wee characters from Belfast who always like Stand out and everyone knows Like remember the, the nun she's been off the scene.

Speaker 3:

Now to the nun. I think someone told me she got sacked in there or something I used to see her every morning.

Speaker 2:

At the bottom of I live in the Ormond. I used to cut across the Ravenhill Road Every morning waving some like Christian Crusade flag.

Speaker 1:

I seen her on the tab I don't know where the Divas Tower is.

Speaker 2:

I put a video up saying it's haunted it went viral.

Speaker 1:

I said fuck me if all's well. It's haunted. She's just standing on top of a hang going and I'm like fuck me. And then people were writing to me people were slapping to me going oh, she's obviously fucking but, I, don't reply to anyone who slaps or even gives me a tip.

Speaker 1:

I just be like I don't even reply to most people, I just lick it, even if it's bad, I just lick it. But then people started defending me, going oh, for fuck's sake, she's been up, she's been assessed and the psychologist says there's an abnormal. Everybody knows how all these people know this information. And how would you know?

Speaker 2:

oh, my cousin and it's just, they're all arguing and my fucking post.

Speaker 1:

I can just get all these random or fucking messages or things on tiktok and I'm like fuck shit, couldn't you? I'd probably go and you'd have to take us around and fuck, but it's always good take that round your own fuck, hey boy take that round your own. Where the fuck? But it's, it's always good crack like but, as I say, it's, belfast is so small, so someone always knows someone. Or like oh it's terrible, leave that pure woman alone. She's fucking. She is a fucking public nuisance public nuisance to society she is the real public nuisance.

Speaker 1:

She's on the run fucking like a lunatic fucking causing havoc, does she even?

Speaker 2:

it's not about her anymore. She would be a good guest for you on this thing, I know.

Speaker 1:

I know, fuck me. She may get out soon. She'll probably be all different.

Speaker 3:

She'll probably be like I think she was on a few podcasts, wouldn't she?

Speaker 2:

she was on that working class. One was she on the working class one.

Speaker 1:

Nah, she was up with Gerard Hughes, he or something she's like. Well, I don't know, she's fucking nuts like. That's just like. How do you get to that stage? What message is even she trying to deliver?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Is it a message? I don't know. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3:

I think she obviously does like the attention. She means she's smart enough to have like a. Tiktok account yeah she's smart enough to phone, and I know that's what.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying people do that maybe we're all amongst it's just taking a piss there, what's?

Speaker 1:

doing on there constantly what they're at absolute social experiment there someone sat her out. She's like she's an alien. Someone just sat her out there and says just, you're sanctioned, you know what I mean They'll laugh at us. They're fucking social experiment. Oh, fuck it. But this night's we'll wrap it up here and make sure we get it again until we're going to get this bro.

Speaker 3:

You can get it on the Ireland Before you Die shop, but also Amazon, amazon and it's very clever in the area of soundl's and stuff, or yeah, well, we'll chat a few. A few shops, would you?

Speaker 1:

get like with the tourist board or like would they not get involved in this like, or would they not?

Speaker 3:

you know, that's all independently funded and, like I, it's a book about the 101. It's a proper irish bucket list, like it's literally random. There's like a seaweed bath in there, but like the some of the best hikes, best guinness and dublin and it's just like 101 things you need to do in ireland for you to have at least one place in every county.

Speaker 1:

So that's, that's a goal. That's a goal of mine. You know, like I wanted I've done a lot of counties in ireland but I just there's something so special about it in the way counties like we towns in ireland where it's fuck it's- proper Ireland.

Speaker 2:

That's it. You and Jerome, get that camper van, get the show on the road. Get the show on the road that dark of a year. You team up with Stevie.

Speaker 1:

I team up, do a wee fucking a wee tour around Ireland on a camper van. Yeah, because your man, chris, you know who the guy does I done the runs with him. He done the 32 counties in 32 days running unreal, it's just class. But something like that. If he done it in a wee camper van, he had a camper van. Dave whoever was supporting him and sponsored him got him a big class camper van and he just travelled and that and that's class. If you've done that and just had someone driving you and you were able to go to 32 counties and just drink in a different bar in the 32 counties, you'd probably need a little liver like.

Speaker 2:

But there you go.

Speaker 1:

There's an idea for you watch this space folks, let's go wait there a tire and then we'll talk about it. Because too much Guinness, I'll be a fat bastard, I'll be fainting, fainting, tasting furionics, but I appreciate this coming. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for the show, appreciate it.