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The Public Nuisance Podcast
Host Sean McComb interviews various guests
The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #025 “It’s Hard To Explain” with Ryan Curtis
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Ryan “Chaos” Curtis to the podcast.
We cover Living Through your Kids, Being Great, Fighting Technique, Dee’s Burnt Feet, Ryan’s Recovery, Having Belief in Yourself, Building Resilience and much more.
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The Public News House. Sean McCann, welcome to this episode of the Public Nations podcast Right here at Killin' Studio, where you can get all your content done from photoshoots your own personal podcast set up for you, tailored for you. What was the day with a very good friend of mine, ryan Curtis? What's the story, fella? Thank you, cheers for coming in, lad appreciate it made the made the giant off from Dublin of course anything, anything for good friends appreciate it, glad to have you in eventually.
Speaker 1:We spoke about it for a week and it's just. We'll get a good chat going on anyway and a bit of crack. But we were just saying there just before we started about you potentially going down the route of doing this yourself and obviously looking at scaling and going to being the biggest podcast of ours. So me and you have to battle it out who's going to the number one spot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look, you know when they're at the top and you're just there, neck and neck with the people. That's all it matters, isn't it 100%?
Speaker 1:you're probably a big show on it as well down in Dublin. Yeah, a few of the lads are fighting as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I just love being around people who I love and care about and seeing all them be successful and do their thing. You know like nothing makes me more happy and proud to see, you know, people fulfilling their dreams and you know it just means so much to me when it's people I care about and stuff like that, and I actually I do make it a point to say, like you know, I only really try and surround myself with people like that. I'm not to say that I'm only friends with people who are high achievers or whatever. I'm just friends with people who want the best out of life and who want to fulfil all their potential. Yeah, 100%.
Speaker 1:I can hear enough of that as well myself, in terms of they don't have to be as successful as me, but they have to want. They have to want me to be successful in what I do same way I want them. I don't cry over a taxi man. Yeah, just be the best taxi man. Be the best taxi man be the best.
Speaker 3:Be on the front line doing the screen runs. Get up early, get the kids be on time.
Speaker 2:Be the best taxi man, honestly, be Honestly, that would just take playing in it.
Speaker 3:I'll support that 100%.
Speaker 2:You have to give me the same support back 100%, that's all they will always say, even about my daughter, I don't care what she wants to do in life, as long as she tries her best to get the full potential and she works hard for it.
Speaker 3:Then potential and she works hard for it and I'm happy if she wants to collect, collect stamps or whatever.
Speaker 2:I don't care, I'm gonna get behind her. I just wanted to be the best stamp collector in the world. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean yeah, I know I have very open-minded like that as well. A lot of people will say to me oh, is he gonna box about carl bradley? He will box, but if he doesn't want to, exactly he doesn't have to. Yeah, I mean it's for he's like, just because I do one thing it doesn't mean he has to do it, you know what I mean it's like just do what makes you happy and what you love. I don't care what he does, just be good at it or you're getting fucked out how do you feel?
Speaker 2:Bob young people. You may get the ramp get the ramp or you're getting the rope 10%, now 10%.
Speaker 3:I'm your manager.
Speaker 1:I know what that said. He's just like. I'm open minded. He can just do whatever he wants. I'll obviously put him in to a lot of different sports like at the minute he's playing football and I'll get him into curling boxing. I'm going to bring him up to Pat. I was telling him in the car Pat and Shando. Next year when he's old enough to do a bit of crapping, he'll choke me out he'll fuck me out just walking down in the vest when he's about 10.
Speaker 3:Shut your mouth out, he'll strangle you. He'll be asking me for the rent where's the rent 10%, 10% no, hayden, how are you both?
Speaker 2:sorry no no, it's important, you know, because you don't want, you don't want them to push, push our kids into a life or anything like that, where they nearly resent you for doing it. And you know because and I think a lot of people do that because of what they want to do exactly. You know, like I mean, if you, you know, never caught it as a world champion, boxer or whatever, and then you're like, all right, I'll just get carbureted, you know, it's like.
Speaker 1:I think people I chase that. Yeah, they want to chase something that they never achieved in that scene.
Speaker 2:They're nearly trying to live their dreams through with their kids. Yeah, you know, and that's not always got to do with sport. That might be like or we never got that degree, so I'm gonna make sure my kid does, and it's like, no, what does your kid actually want to do? Yeah, exactly you know your kid might not have that passion for any of that and what's most important in life is you know to try and fulfill your dreams and be happy.
Speaker 1:That's yeah, a lot of like, I'd say a lot of people. If they're're left to it, they're near enough going finding something. Because you'll hear people change career all the time. But they'll probably change what they do and they'll probably venture off and find what they enjoy doing and then get really good at it or get really successful at it. And then you're like, why not just leave them to do it anyway in the first place? Because let's say, for, for example, you own your own business and you want your son to do what you do. Yeah, and he's doing, he's getting that, he's getting it easy. Yeah, you're getting it fucking easy. You'll hear parents say, old Hamlet, you're getting it easy, that's. That's like, what more do you want?
Speaker 2:yeah like.
Speaker 1:You don't have to do, you just want to. This is all going to be yours one day. You need to learn yeah but then they're going to be miserable just thinking about that. If you let them go and do whatever they want to do, just what do you want to do? Okay, let's say, for example I want to fucking want to be a sneaker player, yeah, or just sneaker go and learn how to play.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, work away and if he loves it and he spent hours and hours and hours on end doing it and he becomes a fucking great champion.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Good If he doesn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, there's all still space here for you. Yeah, of course, because it's your own blood and it's like I support what you want to do. Come back, yeah.
Speaker 2:I know, but there's not. I'm not going to say that there's not many parents like that common as you might think. Yeah, you know, people are always trying to and obviously you can't just let your kids and just go and be reckless like you know what I mean, like you can't be letting your kids sit there and jocks and playing college you have 42 100 percent you do have to give them some kind of guidance, but you also just have to Be the middle of the road, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Where you're not trying to Force them to do anything either you know, sorry to interrupt this episode, but I gotta tell you About my sponsor, that Praise Guy. Just looking there, it's Wednesday, the 16th Of April, and they've done 48,227 pound in prizes today. Yes, one day, that amount of money. Get yourself onto their page, click the link and get yourself in to win some big loot. Let's go. Yeah, 100%. No, that's a fucking. That's a fair analogy of putting it, like it's a good way of like disciplining your kids at a certain age but giving them that wee bit of space to go and venture and have as much experience in life like
Speaker 1:find cause like there's so much shit, like see now what I think parents are gonna have a big. I think a lot of parents are probably fainting like their kids are on the phone a lot or they're playing a game a lot, but see, now kids are getting paid for it. There's a kid I think was getting. He was doing YouTube, filming himself playing, let's say, fortnite or Call of Duty, but he was, he was commentating on himself in Irish, that's Gaelic Class, and he was started this massive Irish following from Gilgory over Ireland and now he's got like. He gets like I think he's like 40 grand a year now from sponsorship off YouTube and he's only like 15. So you can go. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:you have to be like I think it's just knowing you need to know what your kids doing. I know, but it's one of them things as well as you know. We might be more open-minded to it because we have been them. People where people like I know, but it's one of them things as well as you know. We might be more open minded to it because we have been them people where people like I know my man looked at me and go like what in the world.
Speaker 2:Are you getting into that cage and doing that fuck? I know like, would you not just get a normal job? Like you're a lunatic, like she used to every time? I would like I'd be on the way out the door to go to fights and stuff and she'd be like sitting there crying, like, going like alright, you have to stop doing this. And I'm like man, I love her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, did you ever watch her? Did she ever go and watch? No, no Jesus no, I've probably had 300 fits from his tail and I think and now he hasn't watched me maybe once or twice it's just squealing like ah, like a fucking cat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've nearly not wanted to go over there. What are you fucking? One second breath, breath. What are you fucking?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, but nah, it's just having that thing for your. Obviously you want the best for someone on especially they're always coming from a good place, doesn't they?
Speaker 2:yeah, it comes from a good place, it does. I just want you to like be secure. I think that's it's security that people want from their kids, want for their kids, rather. And like, when you look at combat and you like people doing stuff on YouTube and stuff that's kind of outside of a regular 95, people are like, oh, you can't, like that's so unpredictable, you can't do that. But I mean you can.
Speaker 2:Yeah of course you can, because if you do something that you're passionate about and you do it for long enough and you show up for long enough, you can be the best in the world.
Speaker 1:You know, and you're like we were just saying before, like people want the answer to like quick, like what's quick what's easy. Nothing's quick and easy, nothing in this world or quick, nothing in this world, Like like. I've boxed when I was eight, consistently. I had my first fight when I was eight. I'm fucking 32 now. I've never took one year off boxing, Never took one Like. I've obviously haven't boxed in a year like a year this month, but I've never stopped training from my loss. I still spar. I still train Like so people think like oh, he's inactive, I'm not inactive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm still sparring and I'm still performing when I do spar, like, and I'm still performing, when I do sport, Like, think of the thousands of hours that's at the taking you at the clock to this point, and then people just see you on the world stages and be like, oh my God, Sean McComb. Like, but it's like, yeah, I've been doing this since I'm in nappies. Yeah 100% and then, like it's like, by the results that they didn't get from the work that they didn't put in yep you know that's the reality of people.
Speaker 2:You know, oh guys, if this is not going well for me or whatever, and it's like, okay, you didn't even, you barely even failed a couple of times, come back to me and have that same attitude when you're at the failing, thousands of times and it's still like a lot of years ago, let's say when MMA was near enough formed on like an international stage, when it was like Chuck Liddell and all I remember.
Speaker 1:back then you may have had people from different disciplines, like boxers going into it and having a chance, but now, because kids are starting it from their fucking five, going forward now, forward now, people. Let's say Conor McGregor was a good boxer and then he took the MMA later on in life, yeah, and he learnt mixed martial arts. He went in and done fucking very good in the MMA two time world champion fucking unbelievable right.
Speaker 1:But kids, he was able to leave one discipline that he wasn't successful at in boxing, do another one a bit later in life and still win a world title. Yeah, that's nearly going to be impossible to do in years to come, because kids are learning the full scale of it from no age from 5, 6, 7 years of age, now growing up, and they want to learn all disciplines.
Speaker 2:Like I say, kids in the gym, who's like six and they can box, they can wrestle, they can grapple like just unbelievable. Yeah, you know, you're just looking like even me who's been around for so long. I'm looking at a six year old going Jesus. Like you know, that six year old kid would have had and it's crazy to even say you know, but that six-year-old kid that's starting now, probably technique wise, probably would have had better technique than the likes of Chuck Liddell and stuff just because it's evolved so much since then.
Speaker 2:You know, like boxing and you know and wrestling and stuff and other kind of combat sports. It's been around since, like the Greeks you know, like thousands of years and whatever. But MMA is like literally unfolded in front of people's eyes.
Speaker 1:It wasn't unfolded, it wasn't grow it wasn't grow, it wasn't get better and it's like. It's like like obviously there's so much to it. Like grappling sort of came in and you seen, like with fucking grappling sort of came in and you seen, like with fucking Khabib and stuff came in and took over UFC with grappling and just people. But even that it's going to. People are going to evolve on how to beat that yeah, well, it's already coming out.
Speaker 2:It's coming out now. That's what I mean. It's coming out of it, so we've had that wee stage but everyone's going to on hat changes.
Speaker 1:I remember like boxing it was like people were tight guard, were fighting, and then that's like people who don't get hit and it's like that chopping changes, but people are just getting better.
Speaker 1:Well, actually I was speaking to Pete Taylor about this over in Amsterdam the last time we were training and I was saying if you look at boxing and people say he's the greatest ever, like you can only ever pick the greatest of an era. Because, if you ask me, everyone mimics a style and there's different styles in boxing, but everyone mimics a style right up. So if you look at, let's go back to say Joe Fraser, and then the next, like Joe Fraser is small, heavyweight, strong, hits hard. Then you've Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1:For me, make tyson's better than joe fraser, more skilled head movement yeah, more explosive. And then you go on and then you've got say isaac, yeah, who's head movement, but with his feet, yeah, he goes around. He doesn't hit hard as tyson, yeah, but he's a better boxer, better boxing iq yeah, so it evolves, yeah, it definitely evolves. And then if you go back to say let's say muhammad ali, and then you've laurie holmes, and then you've got right up to Taysom Fury, the tall, lennox Lewis, the tall boxers who you know how to box, they're all getting better yeah, in the same state.
Speaker 1:It's like nearly like an evolved version of yeah of what that is and that's who you mimic and you want to be that type of boxer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because obviously people are smart. That's the recipe for success, isn't it? It's like, oh, what's this guy doing? Copy that, but just do it a bit better. Yeah, add to it and do it a bit better, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%, and I feel like that's probably the way MMA will go Like let's look at, like Anderson Silva, definitely, people who just naturally have that mobility and that movement and that style and that you know, and then add to it yeah, let's. Or in a world where this is all going bumping into just a class grappler yeah adding a grapple to it where people aren't expected to. You know what I mean. So I just think it will evolve in front of us as we're watching it's happening now.
Speaker 2:You know there's people who are champions two years ago in the UFC who couldn't probably crack a top 10 today.
Speaker 1:100% it's crazy. 100% it's yeah, and we're, we're right on the map. Yeah, we're right on the map.
Speaker 2:People don't even realise. Like you know em. I remember I was saying to the guys yesterday the first person that ever said to me was Conor McGregor. Remember we were in the gym and he said it was because it was going somewhere or something. And he was saying, like we've been to the gyms in america and they're not doing anything here better than us yeah you know. But it's just like you see people on the tv, like in the ufc and stuff, and you're nearly like almost starstruck, you're like yeah, oh my god, that's blah blah.
Speaker 2:And he's fighting in the ufc. And then you know, like then I've went to james in america and tried along, trying the long side, some of these big names, and they're like, yeah, not even is he not better, he's like way worse than I thought he was.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean that's where the disbelief comes from, with certain people go fuck and they're like yeah, I can't beat him near enough. When you go into a fight, it's like if you got the opportunity to fight that person, you'd be like, oh, like Stanley's office are like more aware, more like afraid to make take chances. But just like you're saying, because they're on TV and they've got this big, all they've got is a platform. That's the only reason why they're on TV and they've got this big. All they've got is a platform.
Speaker 2:That's the only reason why they're on TV and we're not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ireland hasn't got a big platform like America or the UK has.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I always say to people if I was born in the UK I'd be a millionaire 100%, Because I'd probably have been at the Olympics. Yeah, I'd have been saying my promoter coming off the amateur pedigree that I have. Just because I'm Irish, there's no marketing for me here, for a British promoter to promote me, and Ireland have no promoters. Simple as that, it's all it is. So whenever I went to fit Barbosa, I knew I was going to beat him you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:People like probably looking at you.
Speaker 1:I remember texting a few of the lads going. I was like I'm going to beat him.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you I'm not going to get sad and do it ever again.
Speaker 1:So dude where a lot of people are like that's an enchanted award for that you know. But I knew it, I knew it, I was like I've been around the fucking world and back, I've sparred with people, just because I don't have the platform.
Speaker 2:I watched and I just knew it, just knew by looking. Yeah, I just knew. That's it sometimes, just know. Do you know what I mean? And that's just the way it is it's just believing in yourself.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the biggest. You know. We say that, I do. We say that genuinely and say that to a lot of people. You know what I mean, especially a lot of younger people. It's like there's 8 billion people in the world. Everybody believed that you could do something, but you didn't believe that you could do it. You won't do it, yeah, but if you believed and the other 8 billion people didn't believe, it doesn't matter. Yeah, because once you believe, you can do it.
Speaker 1:You know, You'll convince yourself, a hundred percent. You'll convince yourself to do it, you know, in a fair way.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's that confidence you know.
Speaker 1:And it's hard to explain it to people or teach the people, but it's like when you know, you know, you know, and they're like how do you know? And you're like, I just know, I put the work on exactly I see it unfold.
Speaker 2:You know like you visualize that and stuff like that. And yeah, it's hard to sometimes. You know it's hard to explain certain things to people who are short-sighted and like kind of narrow-minded, you know, closed-minded you know, I don't like that.
Speaker 1:I don't really deal with how many people who are closed-minded yeah, you know so just be around a full like when you're being around a full gym of people growing up, it's like you've got a big. There's a big stable in dublin. You come from like yeah, and you move to belfast and you've got another great big stable of people in Belfast where you're training and it's like that's just been who you've surrounded. That's where you're most comfortable with like minded people. You know what I mean, and it means you've got more in common because you talk about the same ideas. You talk about the same vision.
Speaker 2:You, the gyms ever gonna look at me going like I would say like I'm gonna be a world champion. Now, when the gyms ever gonna look at me and go, what's this fella on about? Will you give her a rest? You have a day off. You know what I mean. It's like now only like kinda family members or people on the internet or whatever, like you know, who are kinda like sceptical of you it's like no, you just don't know.
Speaker 2:So your opinion doesn't matter, doesn't matter you know that's what it is. I do say, if I find it so bizarre and odd that people take opinions serious of people who they're not trying to be like, I mean, why would I listen to somebody telling me that I can't be a world champion and just a painter, or to stack shelves in Tesco?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's nothing wrong with painters or stacking shelves in Tesco, but you're not a world champion fighter, so why would I listen to what you have to say? I mean, yeah, if you tell me to stack a shelf a certain way, I might listen to you, but you're not going to tell me how to throw a jab a certain way, and I'm going to take your opinion serious.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you know and even if you just talk about that, remember Lawrence O'Cooley. He worked at McDonald's. Two years later he went to the Olympics unreal and then became world champion beast. Within the space of like. Four years he was like, like.
Speaker 2:Within the space of four years he was an olympian and within the space of six years he was a world champion from mcdonald's I know, because people see the tough thing about like people who don't have that vision or don't have that mindset is they always think something is too far away.
Speaker 2:Like you are literally a couple of good decisions away from being a millionaire living the life that you you've always wanted to live and likewise you're a couple of bad decisions away from from hell, like from being the lowest in the world. You know it's all about, just like little decisions that you make and we're only. That's why, like I'd be, like nobody ever should look down on people who are at the lowest or whatever, because, like you, are only a couple of bad decisions away from being that, being that person who you may be looking down on or smirking or joking about.
Speaker 1:You know it's like, I think it's like me personally, but I think the bit like the best way to describe it is everyone through a tough time. This is what I think about, like working class areas and what happens. People who have a bad day turn to go fuck this thing and I'm like, if you're fighting your bird, you're having a proper fight with your bird. You go on the drink.
Speaker 1:That's a negative that's a negative response to a negative situation. Yes, if you went and you were fighting and your head was melting and you were afraid and your head was melting and you want to go, fuck this, I'm going to drink, that's negative. Or else you can go fuck this, I'm going for a run. I bet you can back from that run positive. You know what I'll move on for, else you know what I'll do this, or else you know what. I was in the wrong. I apologise, but you'll come back more positive and you'll be in a be if you go to it, because then you, like you say, that's one small positive decision. Yeah, so as long as the decision's made, the right decisions have to be positive, but negative decisions, like you say, I'll just lead another negative.
Speaker 2:Yeah because it's like a compound. Either way, you do a positive thing like you. Like you say, you might come home from the run and go. Do you know what? I had a little think about that I was in the wrong or I wasn't in the wrong. But I'm look, it's a small argument, just let it go and then you're sweet that night. You know you don't. You don't do the positive thing, you do the negative thing. You know you go on the drink you don't answer your phone.
Speaker 2:You're on the coke, you're in the party next thing, you know, it's three or four days later and your whole world's about to fall apart, you know. So, like I'm saying, like it's like a compound for good and bad. You make good decisions, they compound in a positive way. You make bad decisions and the you know, and that's it.
Speaker 2:Like you know so many people are just constantly just just catastrophic thinkers yeah, big time, and I will listen to some people how they talk and it's nearly like you just stay away from me or just don't even want it.
Speaker 2:You know for every, for every solution. Someone has a problem. You know, because I'm the kind of a person you know you have a problem. Okay, I'm going to tell you a bunch of solutions. You know, for some people you know they have a problem for every solution, you know, and I just be like stay away me. Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't mind people like that. If they're willing to change, you know we'll help you. And I'll be like, oh, maybe that's not the best way to think, maybe let's think about it this way. And then if they're kind of open and go you know, actually I never really thought about that. I've never had anybody put it to me like that. Okay, maybe I will, I want to help you. But see people who's like nah, we're down the grave with you there. Okay, you just stay over there and deal with your thing.
Speaker 1:It's like the time you met all the boys in Vegas your brother, tell.
Speaker 3:Ryan. What happened? Did you ever hear this one, ryan?
Speaker 2:so the funny thing this is how we all became friends, right we're only all friends of a, of a Sean's brother like absolute legend, but a maniac. I love the bits but he's a maniac. So what I was for I think it was Conor versus McGregor versus Mayweather and something happened on my way with my best mate, dylan, and my sister and her brother in Cancun. So it turned out that we were all meeting in Vegas for the fight but something happened. He was playing football or something happened before he went on the holiday and he broke his foot. So he has like a big boot on you know, one of them big boots that you get when you break your foot. So I like all just played me.
Speaker 2:The four of us are just walking down the casino having a laugh, can't even remember what casino it is, and we're just walking through the casino just minding our own business, having a good time. This maniac d just looks at um, just comes over out of blue nobody said nothing, just looked at my sister's fella ray and goes, uh, sore foot, is that? And he was like yeah, broker, he goes sore, is that? And ray was like yeah, it's in a bad way, stands on his foot and I was like I just like, I was almost in disbelief and like fucking the day one came out and he was like I'll smash your head in, you little kid. And then I was trying to play and punch him or whatever. And then I don't know if it was Jay or Bounty or somebody came over and grabbed me and me I'm like mate, I was so sorry about him. It was Henzie.
Speaker 3:It was Henzie, wasn't it?
Speaker 1:well, like so sorry about him, and blah, blah, blah, and then we end up all just kind of just stopped and then I think one of these were like fucks sake, lads, we're here to support, we're all here to support the irish yeah, we fit for each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like and orish meeting orish in vegas like what's the odds?
Speaker 2:because it could have been anybody who had. He could have counted up to do that. And then, uh, yeah, it just turned out great because we got yapping to the boys and then they found out I was a fighter and we were just yapping away and then I actually got them into. I was getting them into Conor's after party and then something happened and they never ended up coming, but we stayed kind of in touch, I think it was the.
Speaker 1:I remember crackly because I can only remember. I don't know if you actually know what's part of it, but I think it was the weigh in. They were hanging the weigh in. I think you were getting them in there. Roy and Dave was fucking hammered drunk and then they got fucked out.
Speaker 3:So the cops were trying to arrest him and he legged across the freeway and his flip flops came off, but the ground was so warm because of the heat, yeah, and he burnt the fields sitting up there and he'd come back and let me feed, kill off, and I was like that was apparently separate, just crispy on my knee like two bits of bacon.
Speaker 2:I tell you what the best person in the world to have on your side. But just like I tell you, he's the person in the world to have on your side, but just like I tell you, he's the real public news and stuff Jesus Christ, I tell you I think you got that name from him he's fucking, he's insane, he's bloody.
Speaker 1:I love him. He's good hearted a heart of gold. I mean, he's just insane.
Speaker 2:Would just give you the short of he's back. Would do anything for you, like you know. But that's it usually the best.
Speaker 1:People are like maniacs, you know they understand and he's a good person nah he's great, he's the best if it hadn't been for him, jesus me nah, isn't it not? Jesus me, but like understanding right. Oh okay, I was in the wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah but I mean you can't blame, not.
Speaker 3:Is that sad, is it? Yeah, boom.
Speaker 2:Like I'm like Even now. I'm like what would possession have to come over and deal with it? Do you know?
Speaker 1:what he done to me. Right, this is a true story. We went Me, him, marty and Cormac His son Cormac Went to the United match man City. We're playing man United and I'm man City. I support man City. So the only way for me to get tickets was to sit in the mind of the NAD. So obviously I wasn't going to celebrate or nothing like that, but City were running 2-0 at half-time, right? So we were standing in the Stratford end, which is big in the NAD end, ok, right. So when the score arrived, so we went in and then they had a few drinks and I'm in fucking. So I was down and there was a couple of boys from Manchester. They were talking about how fucking shy and they were like fucking, you know, he's shy, rashford, he's fucking terrible. So I was here and then they turned. They were like proper United diehards chasing tickle holders, and they were he's fucking man City, my manakas.
Speaker 3:No way he said it, he's serious.
Speaker 1:He says he's man City and the fag was looking at me. I was like don't listen to him. He's like, oh, he is, he's man City. And the fag was looking at me. Oh you see. I was like don't listen to him, he's waiting you up and Dave was going. Marty, isn't he man City? I was going.
Speaker 3:What do you fuck?
Speaker 1:up Because.
Speaker 2:See, if he hits me, you'll hit him. Are you calling me a brawler?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not being a brawler. He was like fuck off.
Speaker 1:He was like you're just starting murder here Because I know if the first person attacks me, you're going to attack them. So why are you saying that?
Speaker 3:And he was like why would you do that? He was fucking he was just having fun.
Speaker 1:He's mad isn't he Fuck to him, don't listen. And I pulled him away. I was like why?
Speaker 3:are you? Shitting if they attack me, and there's a great number there that would have fucking about 80,000 people especially if you're a man in city, you know, and I was like they're winning 2-0, so they're off to hide.
Speaker 2:Oh, city's fuck fucking hell it is because people get really heated about football. I don't really think people get as heated about fighting or anything like that, like it seems to be like team sports and stuff like that if people supported their own people, individual sport, people like boxers or like the way they support football? Fuck me, you'd be laughing like buying tickets to go and watch it.
Speaker 1:You'd be fucking like that should be your journey. Like I want to support him and I have people like that in my life.
Speaker 2:I'm sure you do too.
Speaker 1:I want to support you and watch all the time, but like imagine having that same following.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, no, I'm, I am always very observant, observant of people like that, though, like you know, it was kind of just you know they would go support. Like you know, I always say, like, even with people's businesses and stuff like that, you know your friends businesses, they'd be sharing this mad stuff and then they won't share that friend's business and I'm like you know you're gonna share, like christiana or another shit, but you're not sharing your mate stuff that makes no sense makes no sense you know, so I'm always very like observant of people like that yeah, he sure is, yeah, 100%
Speaker 1:and no, it doesn't even have to be a shirt, or just support, just support it, just a wee bit of support, like it's like like even like your own journey, yeah, like when I first fucking seen you move, and it's like fucking, I'm like proud, I'm proud of it, yeah yeah, because I. I was there when you were in a hospital bed and you couldn't move so I was like, and you were telling me like, I'm gonna walk. Yeah, and I was believing it, yeah yeah, I was like you'll walk.
Speaker 1:I fucking knew it. Yeah, yeah, and like I remember, like people, no one ever says me like anyone I was ever surrounded, surrounded myself with who would know you and know me, but no one ever says he's fucked. Yeah, not that I know, like they said to me personally, but maybe there was people who maybe thought that maybe, but you know what I never did? Yeah, I never did.
Speaker 2:I never had.
Speaker 1:Oh Jesus, like he's fucked. Yeah, like I never thought. I just thought he'll be like he'll be back yeah, I honestly believe in me, like, and then you seen it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then me seeing it because I think like you understand what kind of a person I am and then I understand what kind of a person you are. So you know, we're not really kind of people who say stuff and don't do them. Yeah, you know what I'm trying to say and I don't really like like. Again, you probably didn't hear anybody going like, oh he's bollocks, or whatever, because I don't really surround myself with them kind of people. Yeah, you know, I don't really have many people around me who'll be like you know, and I'm sure, look, it's the human mind, isn't it sometimes? You know, we always gravitate toward like the average mind always gravitates toward the negative. So I'm sure that people was.
Speaker 2:There was some people going like, oh he's snow good, like this fella is bollocks, but I mean, for the most part, I surround myself with people be like who got behind me and be like you know, like that's it those times. Like where you know, like, like, that's it those times. Like where they used to come in and give me all the news and I can't even explain to people like we actually used to have a joke, like there was a running joke in my hospital room that like they just don't know, like I know they don't know me. You know, like they don't know who I am and what way my mind works and what way I think, but the reason how we were all able to laugh about it then was because the people who I was laughing with about it they knew me, do you?
Speaker 1:know what I mean? Yeah, that's exactly it. They're like going to lick the jokes on them yeah, to lick the jokes on them yeah, and the jokes on them now and anyone who doubted it, because look look at how far you came like 100%. You were just laughing on the way up the stairs going.
Speaker 3:Thank fuck, they're not in the wheelchair because you were never getting up the stairs for 10. Oh my god, they're not in the plane. Chan fuck me too every step strap in strap in, strap in put a for the hell of it.
Speaker 2:So but yeah, that's it now. Like you know it's. It's like we were talking earlier on. How do you know? I just know, because I know who I am and I know what kind of it you know, I know what way I think when no one's around and I know the work that I'm at the point in. Like you know, that's it. It's like so many people look at me and I go like this, like yeah, what you're at the own is supposed to be impossible. But I mean, like I've said to you, it's not impossible and it's not impossible for anybody else to do it. It's just I really believed that I could do from the get-go, like right from the get-go. You know, obviously, the first day when I woke up parallel, it was like I was almost like in disbelief that it was at the happening and I was very down that day. But I remember right the next day after I was at the, so I got the operation and then woke up from the operation and literally couldn't move one thing like I couldn't even lay.
Speaker 2:Your man was working fully, no one but you couldn't, yeah, but I was like it's mad your brain like you're telling yourself to move.
Speaker 1:It won't move.
Speaker 2:It's like I've been through it and because I'm back moving now, it's nearly feels like how'd that even happen?
Speaker 1:like no, it's, it's so how did it ever make a connection the first time? Like because I remember lads going, I moved, he moved his toe or he moved his right hand or something on the right side and I was like fucking unreal that's the start of it. Yeah, that's the first signal. Broke 100%, that's it.
Speaker 2:But like it's so hard to explain to move, like I remember thinking, like when I was lying there after the operation was like how am I looking at my legs and nothing's happening and I'm telling them to move?
Speaker 2:like it's bizarre, like even me, like lifting my hands up now while I'm talking, like it's like it's just so subconscious, subconscious, and like you don't even think about it, I just doing it. But then it was like I remember, like looking at my hands and I'm like move and there's just nothing happening, like it's so unexplainable to people who've not been through that. And nearly because I'm back down and now I nearly almost to a degree forget what that feels like. Thank god, but you know, like I said, I've been through it, so I do remember, but it's unexplainable to be just lying there and for a brain to be thinking like move something.
Speaker 1:Did you ever get like in a two-legged or anything? Mate, I swear to God really Is your leg all fucked up.
Speaker 2:One of the happiest like I tell this story, one of the happiest times of this whole process was the day that I could lift my hand to my face to scratch it.
Speaker 2:That was one of the happiest times, bro, I swear. I remember. I remember I used to wake up at four and five in the morning and just I hadn't, I couldn't press a button. Yeah, I couldn't press a button and it was nearly like I was nearly bollocks, to be honest, because I couldn't move on, I couldn't press on, but because it was so high up on my neck I couldn't really breathe on my own either. So when I was screaming a lot of the time I was like no, no, so if they were any way a little bit away, they wouldn't even hear me.
Speaker 2:So it was like so frightening that, you know, I would remember just thinking like frightening that, you know, I would remember just thinking like when I wake up in the middle of the night and I call for them, they might not even hear me, you know. So it was like it wasn't only until I start getting my lungs, start getting a little bit stronger and whatever, because when I go, so when you break your neck so high up, it affects your diaphragm, you know, and all your breathing and whatever, you know. So, um, yeah, like one of the or I do say like one of the happiest times of the whole thing was when I could finally just reach to my face and just scratch it. Because those times like where I'd like wake up at four and and may like just the itchiest thing in the world, and I'd be like no, I'm sorry the body like, oh, he was thinking that I was a mad burden on him, like and I'd be like I'm sorry for calling you in for something stupid, but can you just scratch me nose.
Speaker 3:And he'd be like yeah, right, of course, scratch me out the arse is turned.
Speaker 2:Did you really give that good relief?
Speaker 1:yeah, but you know what, like it's something because we were just saying on the way up, like you were saying you just message people and you just ask for advice and ask for help. And see, being in that state, that's probably brought more of that out of you. Because now you know, like because I'm a wee bit reserved on asking for help off anyone I never asked anyone for like. I just feel like I don't know, I feel awkward when I'm asked for something, but you're telling me like I'll just ask him for it and you're asking how's this and you're asking all 10.
Speaker 2:But mate, you know what? I was never like that, like when we were laughing. Yesterday it was with all the boys down in the hotel room yesterday, all the boys in FAO, and we were helping them cut weight and stuff, like you know what I mean. And it was like getting to talking about sponsors and people sponsoring you and whatever else, like you know, and when people used to sponsor me when I fought I'd be nearly only short of turning around and going. Now I'll pay you to sponsor me, do you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean. Like I'd be like, so don't ask for that. That's a bit cheeky and whatever. But you know, know it wasn't so, it wasn't always like you know, and I'm still not kind of shrewd about it. I just will be like, I just know like good people, help good people and if I'm in a position to get help for me to do better things for people, because I really feel like I'm obligated now, I'm obligated now to help people. You know, like sometimes it's a bit overwhelming, you know, because, like sometimes, like I've I've had a couple of people in my DMs telling me that they were going to kill themselves only for the sake of seeing my videos yeah, I know it's something I've often even like.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I've had it's something so stupid where I go I couldn't be fucked and I go like people would give. I always say people, I always go, people would give and I go look at Ryan Curtis yeah and I just grew up yeah, because it's so close to home, it's so close to my mate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because obviously you almost died fucking. He would fucking. I'm sitting here going.
Speaker 1:I could be now going to run. I could be now doing. I do this fucking grow up and grow up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, grow up, because it's you know. That's what I say. It's a privilege people forget what they have.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's like fucking this, I know it is and that's why I tell people all the time, like it's how you even speak, like you know it's, I don't have to go to the gym, I get to go to the gym, like it every day. You wake up, you know, and you know people don't even realise you wake up, you're not guaranteed to get into bed. That's the reality. I mean, I woke up that morning and thought, yeah, geez, I'll be back to see me, me daughter, and give her a hug and a kiss before she goes to bed or whatever, like that never happened for me and it never ever happened again. For because I was dead. Yeah, you know, that's, that's the reality. You know people, they're not. They need to be more grateful for the life that they have. There's too too many people, like you know, complaining about I don't have this and I don't have that, and it's like you can always have more yeah, that's true, but you can always have less. Yeah, and that's it. Like you know, there's too many people.
Speaker 1:Like did you feel when all that happened? Do you feel like you've lost? Like obviously you've lost relationships and all like. We all know that like. But do you think for the best, for the better or for the worst? Like coming off the back, lost some relationships, or like at this stage of your life rather than later in life, or yeah, like obviously you ever think of it like that you know, like some people, like some people, the timing of things, obviously what happened? There's always a question or like yeah obviously like you and Emma.
Speaker 1:Fucking what happened there, she left, and fucking when the going got rough, she left. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you know?
Speaker 1:what I mean? Yeah, it's not fucking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's no secret. It's no secret. She left when the going got rough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she yeah it's just like kind of a thing, like you know, people be like ask me, am I upset by it? And whatever. And if I was sitting here now and I told you like that I never cared, or whatever, I'd be absolutely telling you all lies in the world because at the time that it happened I felt like my whole world was ending because you know, this is supposed to be the person who's there for you. You know this is the person who was like the rock.
Speaker 1:you know that was like. That's the reason you're in Belfast, a hundred percent. That's why you're here in Belfast.
Speaker 2:You know it's like, that's why you're in the Royal?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I did get a transfer back to Dublin and whatever. Because, like, because, like her and the baby is here, yeah, you know so for her to live when I couldn't even feed myself, yeah, you know, people will be like, you know they are upset by her and whatever. I'm like, do you really think now, like as in now? Then I was extremely upset by her. Like I said, I felt like the whole world was ending when she left me, when I was lying in the bed, when I couldn't feed myself. But now do you think, like that I really cared about somebody who was gonna leave you at that point in your life, you know, and and that's it. You know, like, prior to the accident she was, we were fantastic. We are actually in the middle of trying to have our second baby, but you know, you know, thank God that didn't happen.
Speaker 1:For me it was a shock as well, because I was there when she was there, yeah, in the hospital, yeah, and I seen what I seen was the realness of it all, like she was supporting you, yeah, at that stage. So I was like, well, I don't know what was an act or what, but yeah, at that stage.
Speaker 1:So I was like, well, I don't know what was an actor, but I seen how, like, how supportive she was and she was there with her friends and her family, yeah, and I was like like fuck me, Like like yeah, everybody was that yeah. But then just boom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like fuck off. Yeah, I was like Alvin Knight, wasn't I like? You know the way Al went, I was like taking back going.
Speaker 1:I was like it can't be what the fuck like.
Speaker 2:So I was in a bit of disbelief, yeah where I was like kind of derving and Derver was going like they're probably just having a wee bit of a fight, just a wee bit of a fight like I was like move yeah, he can't even move, like there's nothing to fight over well, the thing about it is is, like you know, one minute when the best father in the world that's what I mean the best partner in the world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was on all the podcasts on all the radio stations telling the whole world that, like you know, ryan got me through some of the toughest times in my life.
Speaker 2:He's the best father, the best partner and I think, really, what happened as time went on, it was kind of it was done and like that it was, like you know, which I found was strange because I was still making like good improvements, but like it was, I think, like the likes of Lea and stuff were in our ear and going this is not going to be good, like this is you, this is him for the rest of his life and you're going to have to be the one there. You know, and these are the same people who go on and just talk about god and being christian, and you know, and it's like you're literally the most unchristian like person in the world. You know, just, it's so funny like the public image and the public persona of these people, because all they do is talk about god and helping people and this, that and the other, and it's like, when you know, to rail them behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:It's like you're the most ungodly like person you know and I would like that you see through people like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they live through social media where people don't know them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, because it's like so, it's an image yeah, because for them it's not what's real in real life. It's like oh, what's it look like on Instagram yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It's like they look like they're living this fantastic life and it's like, no, when you actually know the real them, it's like, oh, okay, yeah, but that's why it's like, when people meet me and they talk to me for a little bit and they feel the authenticity from me, because I'm don't try to be anybody else. I'm not everybody's cup of tea, you know, but at least I think people get respect from me. I have respect from me, rather, because I'm me and I don't try to be anybody else and I don't. I don't believe that everybody in life should like you, because I mean like if you're a friend to everybody in life, should like you.
Speaker 2:Because I mean like if you're a friend to everybody, you know. If you're a friend to nobody, I believe you know. I really do believe that, because it's impossible to be everybody's friend if you're a true self because you can't believe in everything Exactly. You can't believe in everything and everyone says because it's all.
Speaker 1:It's contradictor. Yeah, it's contradictor, yeah. So you can't contradict everything yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like they like. They go on to social media and they have to have everybody to try and like them because they're afraid to be disliked. You know what I mean? Which, when people find out that you're really like that, it makes you dislike them more because you're not authentic you're not true to who you are, you know, but people only kind of.
Speaker 2:That is the thing of social media, you know, people only figure it out when they meet you in real life and they have a conversation with you. And then it's like, oh, they're completely different than what I thought they were online. Yeah, you know so to be just online talking about like you love god and whatever, but then when you know them out, the real damn in person, it's like whoa yeah you know, but like again, this is the day and age that we live in.
Speaker 2:It's not what's real in life, it's what's it look like on instagram and it, which is crazy to me because obviously you know from fighting and even the accident and whatever I've like built up like a presence of online, but for me, genuine, it's like to help people. I don't care about what some like? Do you really think that I look at your social media following or anybody else and think like that? A couple of numbers, it's a couple of numbers on the screen it's fake.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:it's like people don't give a fuck about you. It's fake, to agree, it's a couple of numbers on a screen. I agree it's like people, especially the kids and whatever these days they're looking at stuff like that and they think that it's the be all, end all. And it's not.
Speaker 2:The only reason why you want to even have a bigger following and a bigger presence online is just to get the message out there, to help people yeah you know, because, like I said, like you know, we've had people in my dms going like I was literally gonna kill myself until I seen your videos and that is like that's enough. That's crazy for me to hear. But when I hear stuff like that, it's like okay, I need to get the message out there, because there's so much more people, and even even for you, like you probably never even thought about this, but how many kids have boxed or started boxing because Sean McHugh, like he's?
Speaker 3:fighting.
Speaker 2:MSG and he's fighting Edson Barbosa and what's his name? Barbosa Barbosa, arnold Barbosa. Edson's there, mma guy.
Speaker 1:But you know, we are fighting these big people and they're like oh, you can do that yeah you know, but you probably don't even think that you know it's not a belief and it's like, yeah, when she, you see someone achieve something so close like a working class or like kids yeah, you just, you just make them believe that, oh, we can do this.
Speaker 2:You know, and that's what I was saying. Like, it's like the only reason why I want that presence and a bigger following is so more people see my message and go. They literally told this guy that he was never going to do anything. They literally told him that he was going to be a vegetable for the rest of his life. And, statistically, they were right. They were right to tell me that because I've been through this and I've seen the amount of people that come out the other side of this and, to be quite frank, it's not a lot. But that doesn't mean that, if this is happening to you, that you have to be that statistic because you don't. You know what I mean. It's like that's what that's what because?
Speaker 2:that's what I told him. Like I was like I appreciate what you're saying to me and, to be honest, statistically you might be correct, but you don't know me and you can't measure my heart. You know what I mean. You can't measure my work ethic Like I used to. I was only saying to someone the other day when I finally started to get back onto my feet and I could kind of, it was like I wasn't even walking at this stage. It was like March of the Penguins, like do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:It was like Penguin in a bot man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, penguin in a bot.
Speaker 2:Just shuffling. So I remember I used to wake up in the middle of the night and I used to go to bed and walk around the room in the dark. Stupid, like, absolutely Like in the dark, stupid like, absolutely like, just moronic you know. But my mindset was like this is more little reps that you're getting in, you know what I mean. If you can't sleep and you're lying in the bed, then let's just walk you know what I mean let's turn a negative into a positive.
Speaker 2:You can't sleep. Okay, that's not great. Well then, let's go walk, you know, and that's it like now. I don't advise that for people, or you know, to have that kind of thing, because you know like what if I tripped and fell over and then injured myself? And you know it wouldn't have been good, but that's just the way.
Speaker 1:My mind works. That's another negative mindset. I think I could fall.
Speaker 2:But you may not, you could like, when I was playing football.
Speaker 1:People go, fuck me, you don't want to play football, you could break your leg. But I can't, I may not, I won't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly I go, but you may I go, I don't understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it, but my mindset has been I played football for 10 years. The whole time I was boxing yeah, and touch wood broke any bones the people were advising me not to play and that's saying I should have been playing football and I don't advise other people to do, but that wasn't my mindset.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed it. Boxing was my profession, which taxed my body so much, and it was taxing on the head and taxing on the hands, and when I got a break, I played football to keep me in sport, me in sport, keep me in there. And jordan, it was enjoyment for me. Do you know what I mean? So, but it's just that same thing.
Speaker 2:It's like, do you know, when people say, oh, you'd walk down the street, get hit by a bus yeah, exactly you know, you know exactly, because the thing about it is is like you know, you can't have that, you can't think like that. If you, if you thought like that, you would just never take risks, but you would never even leave your house.
Speaker 2:You'd be like, oh jesus, I might get a bang of a bus when I leave my house. Yeah, yeah, you might. But you can't have that mindset. You're just never gonna do anything in your life. So people are like, people are just so afraid of failure and risk and you know, that's why I was like saying like I don't believe in participation medals or trophies or anything like that, because it teaches the wrong message. Like I never want my daughter to say to get a participation trophy or a medal, because it teaches her all the wrong stuff in life. There's nothing wrong with failure. Failure is a fantastic thing because you know you fail and you're like, all right, okay, just don't do that again you know or?
Speaker 2:else you might do it again. But you're getting better. And you're getting better when? Like if you're rewarded for doing the wrong stuff, it doesn't teach you and it doesn't build any resilience in you. Like the best things, the best tools in life, you know, are failures. You know. Like even when you know I do be in the playground with Kaseya and I'll let her do her own thing, even like if she's climbing something high, but still being there to be, like you know?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I'll let her to a certain extent.
Speaker 2:If she falls on her own, get yourself out, but I'll be there to make sure that she doesn't seriously harm or injure herself, but I'm there to make sure that she's able to do little things and she gets confidence in her own little self. You know, not just like I see some people and their parents have just made them big, overgrown vegetables. Like you know some people who I know their mothers have looked after them.
Speaker 3:They can't even book flights for themselves.
Speaker 2:They can't do anything for themselves. They can't cook. They can't like literallyied. They can't do anything for themselves. They can't cook, they can't like literally. If that never happened, their parents they'd be just fucked. Or else what I say happens is something happens to their parents, or else they leave their parents house and they get with a parent who does it for them yeah, always away.
Speaker 1:They're just big babies, that's who they look for in a person. Yeah, that's what they look for in a person, not independency. No, I look like well, obviously for me I look for someone who is independent. I like for me Darla's very independent. She works, she does a good job, she sings, she does things on stage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel.
Speaker 1:I'm very independent. I cook, yeah, and I done all the cooking, done my cleaning, and I was like lads. I was like a housewife. I was like lads, get them fucking dishes done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, deal with the dishes and whatever. And I was like lads, hurry up, get them fucking. I was like this is how bad it is.
Speaker 1:Tyrone McKinnon from McCulloch used to share a room, right, I used to do all the washing, had all the washing, fold it up, stack Outside the room Says lads, your stuff's outside there, I don't know who owns what, so you should sort it out and put them in these and I put them away. So me and Paddy I brought all Me and Paddy.
Speaker 2:Paddy.
Speaker 1:Barnes. I fucked his on his bed. I fucked mine on my bed. About a week later I walked down Like walking around the room Throwing my canna and throwing my cocks. Clothes were still there, but they were down to here. So on the way to the room, rather than Put them away.
Speaker 3:They were just taking stuff Off the top of the floor, so the pain Was just getting smaller.
Speaker 2:I was like Lads, he's for real, you lazy bastards Probably the kind of people that bleed, make, make something in a pan and rather than just Bleeding they would dish. They'd probably eat it.
Speaker 3:Straight out of the pan. You know what I mean. It's only one dish. They were just taking sacks and like jackets off the pile and it was just getting small and I was like lads, just put it away like your room's only two food steps and now like, honestly, you're fucking nuts, but there is somebody they actually caught themselves on and started laughing or anything. Yeah, I just laughed, but that's.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people like that 100% and it is it's always more surprising than athletes, because, like, athletes are some of the hardest workers, you know, and you're like. You won't even claim no bad yourself or whatever.
Speaker 1:I always have this thing where I read a bit of Gazi going to believe it. Part of high performing being a high performance on the New Zealand squad was you need to come in here and be a high performer. If you want to call yourself a high performer or be part of a high performance, you need to behave like one in everyday life. You need to get up in the morning. You need to make your bed.
Speaker 2:It's like going to the army make your bed.
Speaker 1:I make my bed every morning. Get up, do clean up. Do your shit clean up like behave like one in the changing room. If there's muck, clean your muck up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So like even the other day we were at a football match for the St James's and went to the park at the end of the game we lost, obviously, in the final and the bench was stinking. There was water bottles everywhere and I got a bag and fucked everything in it, just teared it up. You know what I mean and I was like you can't fuck me, someone else, someone else, someone's gonna have to come in and do that. You know what I?
Speaker 2:mean, but it's like it's just all. That's people, little stuff like that. Like you know what I mean. I was only sitting down, uh, at my kitchen table with my nephew do that day. I mean, if he was great like that, I wasn't even saying to him or whatever, but I was like there's such importance of doing all them little things.
Speaker 2:Like I was saying to him, like you know, sometimes I'd be like I'm just like somebody, like he'll just have a deep conversation in the blink of an eye, and I'm like sitting in the kitchen and I was like making something. I was like what kind of life do you want? And he's like looking at me. He's like what you mean? I was like I mean where do you see a life like? What's your dream life? Look like like tell us. And I thought he thought I was like quizzing him or whatever and asking him like just trying to put him on the spot, and I was like you don't have to give me the answer, I'm just asking you, like you know. And I was like saying to him like that you know, for the people who I look up to and the people who, like, are really successful in business and in life and fine, and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I'm like, what kind of people are they? Yeah, you know what I mean. Like what's their daily habits? Like what do they wake up and do and trust me, like anybody who's like super successful in anything me, like anybody who's like super successful in anything. They're not waking up in the morning like fucking trowing the bed sheets, like shit all over the ground, you know, not brushing their teeth, not cleaning, looking after their hygiene. You know it's. You know how you do anything is how you do everything. You know that's. That's the truth. You know, because how am I gonna go out and try and be a multi-millionaire, going to go out and try and be a multi-millionaire or billionaire or whatever, or try and be the best fighter in the world and do all these things if I can't even make my own bed?
Speaker 1:exactly exactly like there's no hard work involved in that no that should be a routine deal, everything you know. But it sets you up for.
Speaker 2:Go on, you know it's like it's so overlooked doing little things like that, like making your bed, cleaning up after yourself. You know it's yeah, it's so overlooked, stuff like that, and people just think like it's so much more than making your bed, and you know just having the place clean.
Speaker 1:Like you know, it's just who you are. That's how you are as a person in everyday life and every. You can't just become one person in business and another, completely different person in life. Yeah, you are, that's who you are.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's not just like oh right, I'll turn on now yeah, no, I'll walk in the office right, I'll turn on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no you walk back the house is fucking.
Speaker 1:They just fork it everywhere.
Speaker 2:They're fucking ditches, fucking everywhere fucking cling film around Blade and throw it out of Kenneth's plate because he doesn't want to wash it.
Speaker 3:Fucking take the cling film off and put it back in the place. Oh, fuck me, you do, you get it?
Speaker 1:but yeah, fucking 100%. It's just these things they got. They're just like puts it all in the perspective of who you want to be as a person and obviously it tells a good story of who you want to be as a person and obviously it it tells a it like a good story of who you are and obviously what you want to be. Have you now that you're back up and we'll just finish on this, by the way but just because we're, we spoke about all the character you are and we I think most of us know we've watched podcasts, we've seen your stories and, if you haven't, you can find him on his Instagram at chaos Curtis at chaos, curtis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you haven't, get on and have a look. But have you any ambitions now that you're back up on the feet, like is it, what's, what are your most ambitions or what is it you want to achieve now?
Speaker 2:me biggest thing, I swear, is just to help people. You know I received so much and like. That's why they say like sometimes it's like when I'll be saying certain things it's like sounds like corny or whatever like. But it's just my whole. Biggest thing now is I've received so much help through all this for from people who can I can never repay. There's so many people who've helped me out so much that there's never in a million years that I'll be able to like, thank or do anything anything for them individually. But what I can do is now I'm obligated to help other people.
Speaker 2:Like I said, like I get dms all the time about like people listen to, you know, because I say this all the time, because I am who I am and I speak the way I speak and I think the way I think. I automatically just think. So Everybody just talks like me and they have their thoughts, you know. But I'm so quick to be reminded all the time Like that's not normal the way you think, you know. So you know I just have to accept that. Okay, everybody doesn't think like this. So if you can help people change the way they think and have, because I just want people to have a better life and I just want people to fulfill, you know, their true potential.
Speaker 2:You know, life is the most beautiful thing ever, but it's rootless and it's really tough and everybody has problems in life. You know, I think like there's a big misconception about like money and you know, getting this and getting that, like oh, I'll be happy when I have this house, or I'll be happy when I have this much money in my bank account, I'll be happy when I have this car, and it's like I I've like spoke to so many millionaires and just people with just like so many high achievers and they're like that, doesn't? There's always a another problem. Do you know what I mean? There's always like okay, you get this. Yeah, oh well, look at this. Yeah, you get that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're always if that's what you're chasing, you're always chasing, you're actually chasing and you're not living that's it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So, like everybody, it doesn't. What I'm trying to say is, like money just solves your money problems. Yeah, it does always other problems in your life, you know. So, if we can help people and and truthfully, the biggest, more than any money, more than anything, the biggest asset you can have is your mindset you know because like I do say to people it's.
Speaker 2:You know, being becoming a millionaire is not about the money, it's about the kind of person you become to be the millionaire. Because you become a millionaire, you can lose that million over a night, but you can never lose the skills and the kind of person that you became to make that million. You know what I'm saying. Like you know, there's like I don't know blaine, mike zuckerberg and all these people you know, elon musk if they all went flat tomorrow, broke nothing in the bank, they'd be still the richest people in the world they've just they have to like again the daily habits that they've developed over time the mindset.
Speaker 1:You know who's telling Elon Musk that he can't do something exactly because Elon Musk I don't care about American politics, but he was in power. He came out of power. He was actually fucking. He came out of power, he was actually fucking. He got convicted of something I can't remember what it was, but he got convicted and then he went back into power. He was shot. He was back in power like he, like no one was telling people I would say a lot of the population there's no chance he's back in the power
Speaker 1:and he went straight back in again, especially after being infected because, again, he was the only one who told himself yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll do it you know I'm going to do it yeah you know you don't need any like that's from.
Speaker 2:That's the biggest takeaway from anything is like you don't need anybody to believe in you, you just need you to believe in you. You know, and I do, thank god. But even like, regardless of all that, you know, I would still make it happen because I believe in me. You know, like that's why they would say, why would I? From the get-go, like I mean, I used to think like why would I ever let any of these doctors or anything? You know why? Because they wear a white coat. Why am I gonna ever let them put a limer on you know why? Because they wear a white coat. Why am I going to ever let them put a limer on me that I don't put on myself?
Speaker 1:I've never put a limer on myself and what can they say now, like, what are they going to say? Now, well, maybe like all they're going to say is fuck it, like, like if we were to talk directly. They may have said it to the nurse, or they may have said it to people Like your loved ones oh fuck, he's not going to walk in, or he's?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this really doesn't look good.
Speaker 1:What happened then? Yeah, can you explain what happened to me, because?
Speaker 2:now.
Speaker 1:I'm walking, now I'm moving, oh, maybe.
Speaker 2:Maybe you got lucky. Can I explain it? It's always luck.
Speaker 1:So the next person who's in the hospital same position that I was in will you tell them that there's a chance because Ryan Curtis done? It and if you don't know who Ryan Curtis is, go and have a look at his Instagram.
Speaker 2:I wish you luck.
Speaker 2:He used to give out to me in the hospital because, I used to sit them down and I swear to God, this is when I was getting fed. I was getting fed by an horse and I was telling other people at the table we're all gonna be. You know not, we're all gonna be. Oh, I didn't say we're all gonna get back, get back walking. But I was like there was someone, there was a lady sitting at the table and she was like oh yeah, she's like railed down, which is completely understandable, and she was like or if I ever get back walking again? And I was like I just stopped getting fed by the nurse and I just looked over and I goes. Now, when you get back walking again, you know what I mean. That's it when you get back walking, because you will be back walking if you just put in the work and you believe.
Speaker 2:You know people are so like that's how quick. They call me a miracle and you know there might be other doctors to go like, oh, he's lucky and this and that like, and it's like not if, obviously, I have my documentary coming out soon, soon and stuff, um, but if you've seen the work that I've put in to get to this point, no one would call me lucky. Like hours and hours, and hours, and when everybody doubted me and, and I used to tell myself, like, like you know, I used to card myself on my phone saying, like you are a champion, you're gonna do this. Like you know, I used to call myself on my phone saying like you are a champion.
Speaker 3:You're gonna do this, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So, because I couldn't look in the mirror, because I couldn't get out of bed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It'd be like you are a champion, you are gonna you know, like that's the way I used to think.
Speaker 2:Like it's like you are the man, you are the champion, you are gonna get through this. I say that to everybody. It's like I never disrespect myself and say stuff that like, oh, you can't do this and whatever. Like it's like no, like you can do anything you want to do. You just need to believe in it. You just need to put in the work. You know you can't just sit on the couch and allow to play in Doritos and things like yeah, can I be a billionaire here on any day now, you know, just, I believe it's going to happen and whatever. No, so you know, you have to look at these people and you want to be like and make it happen.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean so, yeah, we'll wrap it up here. Thanks for coming on a lot anyway, I really appreciate it thanks so much, I appreciate it.