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The Public Nuisance Podcast
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The Public Nuisance Podcast #027 “Dartboard and a Chinese” with Sean Casey
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Business Owner and Social Media icon Sean Casey to the podcast.
We cover Trolls, Social Media, Youth Boxing, Making Weight, Darts, Hyrox Running, TikTok, Sandwiches and much more.
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The Public Newsletters. Sean McCann, welcome to this episode of the Public Nations Podcast, brought to you from Killin Studios, right here, where you can get all your content done, from photoshoots to podcasts tailored for you. With us, today we have our very own, sean Casey. It's a pleasure. Cheers for coming on, lad, appreciate it.
Speaker 2:I've been seeing the clips everywhere and I was actually sending my dad like me, and dad would have followed your boxing career because I boxed for about 10 years and just through the amateurs and stuff. So dad wouldn't even know a lot of the people that I go on their podcast or even the people that I bring him home. But I was like shama, come ask me go on the podcast.
Speaker 1:He's like fuck no way you should have brought him up, fuck's sake. We could have got a three-way going.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, we would have been here all day oh fuck.
Speaker 1:I love that Because there was a fella I had on before and he was the same. He was just like a follower and I didn't know who the guy was and he was messaging me all the time, like reacting to all the clips and all saying, mate, and I know a fella that knows him and he's a therapist, like a trauma therapist, and I got him on and he was like what? And he's like, come on, bring him on for a bit of crack because, like he supports the podcast.
Speaker 2:But I think, because every episode he's always commenting and stuff that's the best people to bring on too, and we had I actually really enjoyed that episode where he was good crack of what he does and who he deals with in his class like you can't beat it when you get a good conversation going with people.
Speaker 2:It's good to get that variety of people in too like therapists people in sports. You could easily just do your podcast and just get boxers on and sports people on, but it's always interesting and you get sick of talking about the same things exactly you're repetitive.
Speaker 1:I think I've only had like one or two maybe.
Speaker 2:What was the thinking behind starting the podcast, seeing them pop up everywhere, just to Do you?
Speaker 1:know what happened. Shane Todd had me on his podcast a few times and loads of people were like writing me saying you need to start your own podcast, cause they were like funny and a bit of crap. And then Shane was saying to me you need to do your own podcast podcast, you'll be good at it. You'll be good at it. And then I had stories of no like them, questions you do on your instagram. Yeah, people asking questions. And people were saying when are you going to start your podcast, your own podcast? And I was like I'll think about it. No, maybe the end of the year. And then ryan had seen it and he just messaged me because he'd done the content in our gym. He was like you're not going to do a podcast. I was like I've been thinking about it, like, and he's like I've got a studio, you want to check it out? Yeah, I was like sweet, let's go. And then here we are.
Speaker 2:Let's go, man. Here we are Fucking Grenade Bar Club. Fuck, oh, that's a cracker.
Speaker 1:Lanny tried to get me a Grenade Bar this morning and I went do you pay for it? And he says You're, I'm scared of them. There's probably a big poster up on my face. But Lally tried to get me a protein bar this morning. It was a Grenier bar. And I says, jokingly. I says, did you pay for it?
Speaker 2:he was like fucking ready to do it, I says don't want it, no more.
Speaker 1:They don't taste the same when you pay for it now, every time someone sees me with like a protein bar, they're like fuck you, steal that one. Yeah, yeah, it's fucking heavy, but like when I'm far and away Grenier's probably probably like representatives or PRs for Grenier Wadsnack oh fuck.
Speaker 2:I brought back oh. Apple Green fucking won't let me back yeah, but the way clips like that, you don't. You never know what one's gonna fucking take off.
Speaker 1:I know you never know. People have an interest in one, like, like the shorts are the best. They direct people to the podcast. Obviously they have to see a couple of good short clips. It's like that's funny. But there was one the other day we'd done about the, you know, the skylines where the planes are making the fuck and getting some dog's views out in the comments, aren't they?
Speaker 2:Who do you do that with?
Speaker 1:Paddy Barnes, and we do our views.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:See the dog's views.
Speaker 2:I'm getting people are going too many things. Yeah, it's just a bit of crack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, see when people say short form, clip two, without any context or knowing that it's a bit of crack, like people will see 30 or 60 seconds of a one-hour conversation and just go after you like one thing I've found with social media is it can be a very negative, can be a very positive space, but it can also be a very negative space where who would walk up to you in the street and just randomly give you dog's abuse or say you're a fucking clamp or whatever, but for some reason on social media, especially TikTok, because there's no there's no anonymity like TikTok's the worst so people will just happily leave a comment and it's almost like people want to in debate.
Speaker 2:But one thing I've noticed is you can't actually win a debate on social media. You can't actually like. You just spend your time arguing back and forth.
Speaker 1:I don't even reply to them.
Speaker 2:No, sometimes I reply just to take the piss, but the majority of time I don't. But I'm actually quite fortunate like I don't get too much. But like if you, when you start doing podcasts since it's an hour-long conversation and clips being uploaded without context, that's when people start to really have a go at you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like, obviously, like, how quick. You agree, you probably expect people to be like just just throwing a wee fucking ten pats everywhere you go. I get it. And now people don't. Like this isn't even related to boxing or sport and people always comment underneath it going oh, you get beat up by such and such yeah, yeah and going you're a quitter and I'm like, so I know like.
Speaker 2:I'm like fuck off, it's nothing to do with this whole fucking podcast yeah people, yeah it's, it's mad one thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen this I've said this before in a podcast but some that grenade bar um clip. Someone tagged PSN ah, yeah they got to drop against.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, cause, like the north is just such a small place. You know what I mean and everyone's fucking they don't know you. And I see the same people who you're arguing with. They're there. They're probably fake profiles, but see, when you see them in person, yeah, you would never know who they are, but they'll probably say right to you yeah, yeah, I've never really had a negative.
Speaker 2:Have you ever had a negative interaction in person?
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Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that would drive you mad like fuck I. Just people that have never fucking fought in their lives.
Speaker 1:I can't even get like. I just I'm not. I can't even. I can't even like. Give them a time of day to even hear them, just please. You don't even know what the fuck's wrong.
Speaker 2:I don't think people that have never boxed realise how difficult it is as well. Like you're numb to seeing like 12, 12 three-minute rounds yeah, See, fucking one-minute rounds. When you're first, like when I boxed one-minute rounds at the start, I would have been collapsing into the stool and then, once I got the, you made the right decision.
Speaker 1:Fuck this I just I wasn't.
Speaker 2:I wasn't good enough to make something really of it, and I just love fucking drinking and going out partying too much yeah. I call it quits, but I boxed for 10 years who did you box for?
Speaker 1:I boxed for Bambridge. Oh, bambridge, we used to be down at Holy Trinity.
Speaker 2:I'm near sure you've took wee sessions and stuff when I've been down sparring and you've just been floating about. But yeah, I boxed for 10 years for Bamberds it's a good sport.
Speaker 1:I think at juvenile level it's definitely a sport that I think most people have either been involved in or should be involved in coming from here. There's so many clubs like in Ulster. There's so much clubs like in ulster. There's so much clubs like in belfast I think there's 36 or 39 clubs or something like that, and belfast is so small. So, like everyone that's what I mean by like on and out people may have been at a box club, but they've never boxed like, they've never fought a decent level to tell you what is what you're doing, right and wrong? Um, but I think, like it's just it's healthy for everyone to spend a wee bit of time in boxing for disciplinary reasons, but at least box for a few years like you've boxed for 10 years. That's fucking.
Speaker 2:That's more than enough it humbles you, like, and it just shows you what's needed. And I find boxers usually have better like. Most of the time when people box they don't want to get in fights and stuff. You know how to fight, you don't really have anything to prove. But yeah, I think boxing's definitely one of the best sports to get into from a young, young age. But fuck when you get past when you get past 18.
Speaker 1:Because you've got. You've got to fucking. It's not only do you have the element of like learning how to fight and learning how not to get hit. I remember like being like 13, or to photo me like an iconic photo of me. Mickey Hawkins has there's loads of photos of me around the boxing gym, but he won't put this one up, but he loves it and it's me when I'm 13, sitting with like a long fur top on, but underneath it is like a big silver sweatsuit and I'm fucking like death.
Speaker 2:I'm just sitting here like I could cry at that age, like it was only 13 the weight cuts are are rough, like you used to just be starving yourself and then get the big fry. But once I got to 16 I was like I'm about fucking 91 kg. But I was fighting at 91 kg when I was like 15, 16 because, uh, the way it worked out, I was only about 86 but I was if I go down to 81. I have to fight kane tucker.
Speaker 1:I don't want to fight kane tucker, I don't have to make weight, I'll win ulster titles here at 91.
Speaker 1:So the last few years, luckily, I didn't have to uh make a weight, but I wasn't even really in good shape right now yeah I wasn't taking it seriously in the latter end I think it's a boxing's way behind and I actually had steven floyd, my friend, on nutritionist um no steven and he was like we were talking about how far behind boxing is even now and how far the extent people go to to cut weight. Paddy Barnes was a prime example of it. He fucked his whole body up over the years of just making weight the wrong way and never being able to cut Young boxers aren't even taught how to manipulate water weight.
Speaker 2:Even at a light weight, you've got a kilo or two that you can get off just by cutting out carbs and reducing your salt and stuff without actually wearing it.
Speaker 1:You don't need to wear a sweatsuit, just cut out the fucking carbs.
Speaker 2:People are wearing a sweatsuit three, four weeks out, when it's literally doing them nothing at all.
Speaker 1:I don't. I was guilty of it.
Speaker 2:I don't but it feels good to do like you're like fuck this dude if young boxers just had a bit more education on, like, how to lose weight four weeks out, six weeks out, and then what to do the couple days before it makes their life much easier.
Speaker 1:See, now I never feel guilty being out of camp eating what I want, whereas before I always felt guilty because I knew the extremes but it was the wrong extremes, like I can eat what I want now and now.
Speaker 1:Because I can eat what I want now and now, because I can make weight so easy, because I was with Floyd for so long, I know exactly what I need to do. I know, like I just I'm well clued in now with nutrition and calories and all the rest of it, macros and just eating the right foods at the right time for recovery and then like, as you say, just cutting the water weight, cutting the salt, cutting like you don't even like the smallest wee things, cutting out fibre carbs and just dropping the water so easily. Now my feet, week's enjoyable. You know what I mean would you.
Speaker 2:When did you build that education? Only it's you started your pro career when I turned pro.
Speaker 1:When I turned pro, so you were going to.
Speaker 2:Commonwealth Games and all as an amateur.
Speaker 1:We were on the ice team and we had, like we like I wouldn't name anyone, but we had nutritionists that were just like they were useless. Yeah, like they're obviously well qualified, but they just didn't want to put the work in, like for boxers, specifically athletics, where they got a lot of attention and got a lot of the right nutrition.
Speaker 2:We were just like the thing is well, obviously there's a lot that goes into it, but seeing a five or ten minute conversation with a boxer that is making weight the wrong way, you can completely change. It's not that difficult to change their perception of what they need to do. Right, you need to control your calories four weeks out. Here's what to do. Three, two, three. You don't even know why. You don't need to know why you're doing it, but you just being told that yeah, what would help massively.
Speaker 1:Like and see for a while, you see, see, I still know this for a fact because I was I was prime example. I didn't trust it, so before he was telling me to do it, I was like, nah, I can't do that he was like Sean like that's where I started my brokerage.
Speaker 1:Like Sean trust me and I'm like fucking three kilos over here for it. He's like three kilos is have a say like have four eggs, a four egg omelette with cheese on it for your breakfast. This is for eight weeks and I'm like what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't even eat four eggs all day usually. Yeah, and he was like no, trust me, have four eggs for your breakfast and then have a salmon fillet and something for your. Like a salmon fillet and fucking Just all fat. Yeah, and I was like I'm not eating twice monday floyd and let alone one day I'll need twice in one week. And he was like, trust me. And then over like a course of two or three feet doing that and the same, and it wasn't even dry taking the salt out. And then I started to realize I was nibbling on wee bits of chocolate and I'll just get the hunger, just to get through the hunger.
Speaker 1:And then my mouth was always fucking bone dry and then I cut out all that shit and just learned like, honestly, it's so fucking easy now and see boxers fighting depleted too, like that's.
Speaker 2:It's like that Eubank fight. I thought it was absolutely unbelievable because of the weight cut they had to do and the rehydration clause. And he's still a performer. He basically done a prep like a bodybuilder would do for a bodybuilder show and then fought 12 rounds like that A performer At a high tempo. My heart rate was like 120, the full fight, just because you knew, fuck, he's done that. Weight cut with the rehydration clause the first two rounds and then he just came into it.
Speaker 1:He was wondering, like it just goes to show you what your body's capable of, isn't it because I was going? Can he sustain this?
Speaker 2:I didn't think he was going, but he did.
Speaker 1:I don't. I think part of the tactics for Ben was to go at that pace. He can't sustain this. There's no way he can sustain this. But it goes to show you like he had to do that weight cut, done it. Obviously he missed fucking weight by half an inch, which is a fucking fuck.
Speaker 2:All fine, half a million for it fuck me.
Speaker 1:That's heavy, isn't it? And then he had to do the rehydration, which was 10 pounds the next morning, but he still had 12 hours before. He fought minimum of 12 hours. So what can he put into his body in 12 hours?
Speaker 2:and if he does it right, we're very feeling bloated and fucked yeah it just goes to show your body can recover and still fucking perform, but the full thing was just cinema with Eubank Senior and all coming out.
Speaker 1:It was classic, I think, ben sort of they were saying about a rematch. Now he's saying no, he wants to fight Ryan Garcia. I don't think they should have a rematch.
Speaker 2:I I don't think they're not the same weight and it's not. It's not safe what they've done. It worked out well and both of them came out of it unscathed like.
Speaker 1:They're healthy like yeah. So I'd say one and done the hen should fight for world titles at his weight and the bank should do that at his weight, because that's when money comes in. See, when the catch waits in fucking circus with like their fathers fighting and then them coming in fighting and it's just like one for the books. But that's it.
Speaker 2:The books have seen it because neither of them has won a world title. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So it's like fucking just go in there your rightful weight and prove that you're world level yeah, you know what? I mean, and I can't really fucking, I can't really see, like at the rightful weight, I can't see anything in the world title.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know why. I just I think even in that fight, none of them had the experience to just use a simple jab. Yeah, like when someone's swinging and you're swinging back, you're probably both going to land. But if someone swings and the job's going to beat the swing every day of the week, you know what I mean. But I suppose like that's me saying this now, but I've been involved- in fights myself and people are always going to be like just move your legs, move and you're standing there.
Speaker 2:It's different when you're in there, like.
Speaker 1:It's different when you're in there like and there's fucking like 70,000 people there. It's a massive. I was supposed next day fuck's sake got it.
Speaker 2:Do you notice much of a difference when you're a boxer and obviously you know how to box, but do you notice a difference in your performance and things that you technically know how to do when there's a big crowd or when there's a lot of pressure? Well, or do you just zone in like a lot? See the smaller?
Speaker 1:halls. See in Ulster Hall techniques with the window a lot of times because it's just so on top of you like there's people on the balcony it's fucking a great atmosphere like but it's not good for like technical boxers because it's like I watch you fight there.
Speaker 2:How do you fight there? Have you fought a couple of fights a few times? Yeah, box like um.
Speaker 1:I boxed about four times. I'm a pro player like a few times but it's a fucking serious atmosphere like and then then I've boxed in at their last one. It was 17,000 people there in the Barclays Centre and it was. You don't even pay attention to what's going on because everyone's so far away from the ring. Do you know what I mean? And you don't really hear anything. But in the Ulster Hall you can hear who's calling?
Speaker 1:but see when I'm fighting. I have this bad habit. See like in the changing room where we listen to music and having a bit of crack and all just being relaxed, and see whatever. Every tune always stuck in my head. So see when I'm in the ring, moving though.
Speaker 2:I be singing, sing along.
Speaker 1:I be singing along in my head. I'll never forget I was fighting in Ulster Hall and I remember going back to the corner and all I was singing was Losing my Religion, Losing.
Speaker 2:My Religion.
Speaker 1:I couldn't leave my head. And I was like fuck, I need to listen to another song here because this won't leave my head. It was only an eight rounder and I just remember going fucking everywhere and I'm moving here and all I'm singing in my head is Losing my Religion. But fucking, no good times. Hopefully I get back out again soon here I was talking to you before. Hopefully I get out in June and then again in August if all goes well. But it's just fucking. It's political, it's very political.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pro boxing. There's so much that goes into it as well. It's not just a matter of the best fighting the best, or if you beat this person, you're going to be entitled to this. It's money and it's people that want to fight each other, and it's how much you're getting paid.
Speaker 1:Not straightforward Not a straightforward way to make a living. It's not Fuck you guy. That's what I always say. I think it makes him a dartboarder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look, look, look.
Speaker 1:Get him a dartboarder in fucking Chinese.
Speaker 2:Are you sitting in a pub with a pint of water?
Speaker 1:Four he holds it all over the wall. You can do you can do a plaster straight as well, so he can fix his mess up after he holds it everywhere fucking Derblet, going nuts. What the fuck? There's holes over my walls.
Speaker 2:Fuck I got a dartboard there and there's just holes all over the kitchen door. They were watching it. It was last year when Luke Littler was like when he was only 16 or whatever, and I was like I'd never watched darts. But I was like fuck, this is actually really enjoyable to watch. And then we got the dartboard and all that went over to the final when Littler was playing Van Gerwen, and it was some crack and I was like fuck, I love darts.
Speaker 1:And then I just haven't watched it since then, like it's yeah, I went there and Van Gerwen played a little game and a fucking unbelievable atmosphere.
Speaker 2:You know what's good about darts, though? You can't get robbed either. You hit the fucking thing, you hit the target. Yeah, it's quite straight down the middle exactly if you hit the numbers.
Speaker 1:That's it. There's no controversial decisions, you know what.
Speaker 2:I mean it's mad how, how that can just turn someone into a superstar, like darts was big, but it wasn't like no one really paid, that. There wasn't like the darts stars were big in the darts world, but now look Littler's actually he's took it to a whole new level, hasn't he yeah?
Speaker 1:fucking everyone's like just took it to a whole new level. It's been good for darts. I went to the Odyssey to watch it. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just fucking everyone dressed up as chickens and fucking.
Speaker 2:Christmas suits and everything. I was a traffic cone like two traffic cones.
Speaker 1:I didn't dress up, but I was like fucking.
Speaker 2:I slapped in.
Speaker 1:I was like someone invaded me, like from at GEM, I think it was, or something. The batting company invaded me down, down and I brought my father-in-law moment down and I see you started seeing people walking through. So he said they're dressed up.
Speaker 2:I was like I slapped that I was like fuck sake was my first time at the dark side, I know what they expect so next year I'll be dressed up as a whole big thing like serious doubt. Seriously, I thought it was a big dartboard because we threw stuff at you.
Speaker 1:Oh, fucking good crack If you like to ever see the what do you call it with Wall Street they get three midgets in their shoulder and they're stuck in their dartboard Travel follies all over the place. Folksy, it's a great sport. Like for what it is Like. Obviously it's people. A lot of people argue it's not great sport like and for like for what it is like. Obviously it's people. A lot of people would argue it's not a sport. But there's some. It's obviously not a flat export, but it's a skilled, fucking skilled sport.
Speaker 2:There's different types of sports. It's like, mentally they need to train themselves mentally because even though they don't need to be in shape or anything, if you're training really hard and you're someone that you're, you're gonna beat. You're nine times out of ten you're gonna beat them, whereas with darts, like you can just be having an off day and then you get in your own head and then the crowd and all is going like and then to win you have to get it in the double to win and that could be for a fucking.
Speaker 1:That's my like, if you think of the like, if your heart rate increases a serious wee bit like you're. You're gonna be like there's gonna be a wee bit of movement around the hand as well. The steadiness is going to leave and the rhythm of your everything's going to leave. It's fucking insane. It's mad to think that when you look at a dartboard, it's very easy to go fucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could do that until you get a dartboard, until you get one and there's holes all over the wall and the door's fucked.
Speaker 1:Fucking places rack, fuck's sake. But we had I always told this story last time. We had like a wee fake dartboard years ago and my brother was messing about throwing darts at it and he whacked. You know the wee, the wee rim, the wee steel rim that goes round.
Speaker 1:He threw it messing about and the dart hit off the the rim and went in behind the door and we used to mess my brother but my other bra there's three of us and he says he reached down the back of the door for the fucking, for the, for the dart, and he he grabbed out a big pair of shady trunks.
Speaker 2:I was like what the fuck's that?
Speaker 1:and he threw it and I know messed about. He says my dog rolling corn. I thought it was a frisbee. So we always called my brother shady hole messing about. But like it was only a fucking joke, but I fucking stole the old dad story. I get told once a year, christmas time, and everyone's like, yeah, it's a fucking classic. Paddy Barnes loves it. So I was on. He always, like always writes to me, uh like, on this test, say that story, say that story, say that story.
Speaker 2:He thinks it's true it's not true, it's just made up.
Speaker 1:It's a bit of crackling is there any other like? Is there any? Would you have any goals of like competing in another sport?
Speaker 2:um, so I would do. I'm signed up to a marathon here berlin marathon, um in september, so I want to do that and then I want I quit boxing. I didn't really do any sports for a few years, was just drinking uni, yeah, nose of gear and stuff like just a just a yeah yeah, just a racket, um for a while, but it was at uni so it was fine, um, but then after a while, like I was like what the fuck am I doing here?
Speaker 2:like what the one I'm doing I'm I used to be decent level boxer, was quite well known um, just for being someone that was into sports and the fitness and I was like people just know me for partying and stuff now. So I wanted to sort of get my shit together there and then that's when I just got into just going to the gym again and lifting weights and then get myself in shape and then after after a while of doing that, I started doing a bit of CrossFit.
Speaker 1:I've actually seen Paddy Barnes he's just a human beer keg. He's just a real fucker.
Speaker 2:I don't really like. I'm not like, oh fuck it. I love CrossFit and I want to compete and do this. I do it because I like the crack. You're training with people, it's in a group classes and stuff like that. So I do a bit of that, a bit of high rocks, and I've started doing a bit of running here just because I want to run a marathon to see what time I can run it in, because everyone's running marathons now. But it could be one and done, or I might do more, but I'm meant to be in Berlin in September. I'm meant to be doing Manchester half here in a couple of weeks, but I'm a big enough lad so it wouldn't I wouldn't box again like that.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know a charity event.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, white collar or something I done that, my brother done the marathon. The other day my wife was supposed to do it on a relay. Um, there was four others in the gym. Her mom actually took part in as well and we, so I was. I stepped in to take her place because she couldn't do it no more. So I was meant to start in dunkern gardens, which is on road, so I was meant to do the last five and a half mile just now. It's fuck all to me. So I was like I'll just fucking go over and do it. But it was on.
Speaker 1:I was at a wagon the night before, so I was on the rip'll just fucking go over and do it. But I was at a WAD the night before. So I was on the rip at like fucking six in the morning and I says I said I'm going to wake, just wake, get me a lie in the morning, I'll wake her up. At half nine she came in and woke me up at like half nine. I was like right, come on, I need to get you over to Dunkirk Gardens in North Belfast. I was like right, fuck, peel myself out of bed, get in the shower. Like fuck, mate, why did I sign up this? And then we couldn't get out.
Speaker 1:We live in Finicky so we were like we lived beside the Dadnish but as we pulled out it was like half, it was about 11 o'clock and that's when all the traffic started coming, like all the people just bypassing, and there was cones on my street and they were like you're never getting out here for the next next 45 minutes, like 50 minutes easier when we just people coming and I was like fuck, how am I getting over here? He's like look man, she need a fucking lad is right here because I need to get to north belfast. I'm supposed to be, and she was like you're not getting it. So I just went there, I've left. Fuck it it.
Speaker 1:I was still either half cut out and I jumped out of the car and legged it and ended up running 12m.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, you ran over to it. I thought you were saying you were just going to go back to bed.
Speaker 1:I had to get the baton so I had to meet one of the people who was doing that leg, who was in the relay team. Like I'm gonna miss this, he's gonna meet someone else, then he's gonna run on it, and I was like it, I'll just like it. So I caught up with him, ran with him there until the fall, he had the baton with someone else and it just ran for 12 million like and uh did you have jails?
Speaker 1:no, nothing, no food no breakfast, no nothing, because I thought it was only anything. He had a red fruit bar on, I just whacked. A pair of new balance was that not disgusting? Like it was, alright, it was actually alright, I was surprised how easy it was like for the condition I was in and not having no gels, no breakfast or nothing, and uh, I can't remember but do you know what it was?
Speaker 2:even two days after the drink.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if a hangover kicked in yet, but see when I stopped. I was like walking for it and I was like fuck me, get me a painting. I was like get me a painting but like I think, when I remember like running into the waterworks and I was like fuck, my mouth's going dry here. But the buzz see the buzz around the marathon, I had no ambition ever doing a marathon. I've never took part in any marathon.
Speaker 2:That's the first time ever and I'll definitely do another one because they see the atmosphere of just people coming up my dad on Belfast last year and at the time I wouldn't even have been thinking about running one. But when he'd on Belfast and just seeing all the people come together I was like fuck, I really would love to do this because it's all people just supporting strangers that they don't even know people running for charities. Um, I think it's a really cool setup and 42.2k is fucking serious 50k with chris didn't you.
Speaker 2:I mean like so fucking chris taxed me and goes. Uh, do you know? I've only been running four weeks starting training for this marathon and uh, he goes. I'd seen his, uh, the things that he'd done. I said, fuck, here that looks good crack. I'd do one with you sometime. Bear in mind, I'd only done a 5k with him twice and then the next week he texted me do you want to do 50k? I was absolutely not made. I've been training for, uh, been training for four weeks. I'm not running 50k. And he goes don't be a pussy.
Speaker 2:And he goes all right so I said I sat in the car and I was like, fuck it, fuck it, I'll do it, because it was like it probably wasn't the best idea I'd never recommend the clan or something to do it but I just thought it would be an enjoyable experience and to do it with Chris he's just a fucking great lad. He's very positive in just from the get go.
Speaker 1:We were just having a crack the full time. No, he's a brilliant fella.
Speaker 2:No, he's a great lad. So we done the 50k and the first half of it, 25-30k, was grand. And then I was thinking, fuck, I'm in Uri here and I still have to run the full way back to Scarborough. And I was like, fuck this, and we got to a marathon and after you've still 8k to go, the last 8k was atrocious in the wee video clips it sort of breaks it down each day.
Speaker 2:I remember like going the 20, like halfway mark, and you were, you were still positive it was all sunshine and rainbows and laughing and joking and the last 8k fuck it was. It was torture, but he could have done another 50k. Fucking hell. I see, at the start of the week he done 100k and then he done 20k the next day.
Speaker 1:He does his 5k every day and then the Saturday he done 5k in the morning, 20k in the evening and then 50k with me the next day it's fucking insane, isn't it like just the males getting their legs like, yeah, there's only so much like fucking your legs can take, I believe, but I fucking so. Loads brothers in a running club and a couple of emmonds were like pacers and they were like doing they'd done like a sub-theme marathon the week before they'd done a sub-theme marathon and I was like what like? But they're all like about 100 years of age, they're all like old. I'm like fuck that, it's just wearing turnip and uh but you get addicted to it.
Speaker 2:That's exactly it.
Speaker 1:Like I always say, I've never had an ambition, I've never done. Martin doesn't appeal to me one bit and I've been there and stood in the crowd watching, you know, but being involved in it, was different it was classy like there's fucking bands playing in orchestras in the ring fucking as you're running down Norma Road.
Speaker 2:The London one too. There's literally someone there. Every like just cheer full time unbelievable, like it's just fucking.
Speaker 1:So it's because I was sort of the same with high rocks.
Speaker 2:I'd done a high rocks in Malaga and now I'm like I want to do another one meant to be doing high rocks fucking Cardiff here at the end of the month too, but I haven't really been training properly for high rocks. Meant to be doing the pro doubles they've seen that fucking sleds 1k showed up Foxy again.
Speaker 1:Skin and bones did you do the doubles or singles I done the mixed doubles, but it was just male weights, but it wasn't like pro weights we done like 105. I actually done it with Pete Taylor's wife. She's fit enough, she's quite fit, but it's good because when she, I think we're running like 430 average for the 1k's and that's a break for me, that's like my rest so whenever we went into each station, I was starting it and finishing it, so she was getting a break, coming back from runs and getting a break before we started the runs.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So it sort of worked out well, but I never trained for one of her. I was obviously just fit from training, yeah the High Rocks is cool.
Speaker 2:It's a good buzz. It's like there's a big shift now from people that are like just drinking and going out and partying and stuff people that are into marathons and hyrox. Hyrox gets a good bit of stick in that. But I think, working towards any sort of events that anyone could do like anyone would do a hyrox if they train for it uh, working towards that and then going and doing it today, I think the full thing, it's just, it's good to do like it's like to general pop.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean whereas, like CrossFit's, more skilled and more technical a lot of tech like you need to be an athlete to basically win it.
Speaker 2:It's fucking. It takes a long time to learn all the skills and stuff like that, so like for like people who, like you say, just want to fucking change their lives.
Speaker 1:That's why I don't understand why a stick it's just people like I got a bit of stick from a few of my mates. Come on, I'll be running your top off and I'm the hierarch. It's not hierarchs and I should run your top off. Yeah, I'm like fuck you, leave people be if they want. I wasn't knowing my top off. I am too skinny, first of all, to even take my top off.
Speaker 2:See the thing with that too, like there's a lot of people that will run with their top off and it's a pure ego thing. But see when you're roasting, that's all you want to do. See, when you take your top off, you get an extra bit of it exactly.
Speaker 1:It's like freedom, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm free. You're like fuck, I have to do the tag. Be like Tommy Fury. When you finish that tag, there's your world. But I people just fucking always have something to say, don't they like? It's just even like, obviously, like for boxing. For me is like I box at the top end of the sport, but I wouldn't see the semi-pro fights and I love them. I know people go to me. What do you think about these? What do you think about Jake Paul? I'm like fucking class brilliant fair play to them.
Speaker 1:Take some balls down the ring. No matter what level you box at white collar, it's probably worse for them than it is for me.
Speaker 2:White collar semi pro all that stuff it's cool even the likes of fucking Jake Paul for a play to me he trains. The only thing I can't stand is the the low level influencer. Boxer in the press conferences and stuff like that disrespectful that think that they are like actually really, really good and they're talking like they're really good and they're the world. What's the fuck's the world? Champion of misfits like it's so stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not really a big fan of that, but the likes of Jake Paul and that fair play to him. They're getting in against fighters obviously I don just clout chasing, you know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, and people need to see that, for what it is, people can't go. He doesn't actually believe he's gonna be a cow, even though he's fucking twice a season, but like that's why he's just clout from boxing fans, because that's the ones who he knows how to done and people laughed at him at the start, but he did, he done it done even him when he was fighting Tommy Fury.
Speaker 2:It was a massive fight. I fucking bought the pay-per-view. I didn't tell anyone at the time, but I was like I fucking want to watch this to see what's happening.
Speaker 1:That's the way the boxing world goes, isn't it you want to see. It's like two big personalities. He's saying I'll beat a boxer, tommy Fury is a boxer, but I mean it was close.
Speaker 2:It's close the thing with the thing with boxing, though like boxing unless it's a really, really good fight if you don't know anything about the fighters is not actually the most entertaining to watch if you don't know anything about the fighters average fight. What makes boxing good is the storyline like that that eubank fight, uh, the storyline behind it, and knowing it, and you, if you know that that boxer said he's going to do that and that one said he's going to do that, and then you're seeing it, seeing it happen right in front of your eyes.
Speaker 1:That's what that's what people buy into it's a.
Speaker 2:It's a great thing for entertainment. It's probably not a good thing for fighters, especially if you're not that sort of person that can create the storyline and be big on the press conferences and stuff like that. But that's what really. It's the entertainment factor.
Speaker 1:It's like telling people you're going to do something, people are going to pay on the watch? Will he do it? People like Mayweather? Mayweather was probably the most born fighter ever, but everyone fucking chained him to watch him because he was unbeaten and he was telling people he's going to win easy. And he was telling people he's going to win easy and he did he always did, he did, he really did People tuned in to watch him lose. Can he lose? Will he lose? Pat Gall beat him. Ricky Hatton will beat him.
Speaker 2:It was just every big name McGregor will beat him, McGregor fuck, he was just mad.
Speaker 1:no-transcript, that's people who are like they want to find out what the fuck he's going to bring to the table. Do you know what I mean? As mad as he is, fuck's sake, I'm going for President. Fuck's sake, you're trying to run for President, you'll get nowhere near it. Ireland's going to your dogs as it is for fuck's sake. You've Jerry Huttrill for fucking President, and then you've McGregor Fuck me. That's the end of you going head to head for President.
Speaker 2:It's like a big episode of South Park, if you even look at half of the stuff that's happening. If you said that this would be happening a few years ago, you wouldn't even have thought that that. You would have been like nah, you're talking shit.
Speaker 1:But it's like I just go with the show.
Speaker 2:The influence social media has Social media is a huge influence because, if you think about it, people used to get all of their information from the news, the BBC news. Now no one watches the news. No one watches the news, especially the especially the younger generation. Everyone gets their information from social media and that can be a good thing and a bad thing, because it's very easy to get put into an echo chamber in social media where you're only following people with a certain opinion and then all of your opinions are based on what they're saying, whereas I think it's good to even follow a variety of people maybe that you don't agree with as well.
Speaker 2:They get different opinions. I feel like, as a society as a whole, can be very one-sided and stuff like that now, but I think that it is a good thing that everyone has a voice and a platform and you're not just relying on one news platform or whatever it happens to be. But I also think that, uh, you need it. You need varied sources of information and listen to a varied, a wide, for even when I look at it from a fitness standpoint, like I'll listen to podcasts from people that I disagree with to do with nutrition or weight loss, just to see right where they're coming from.
Speaker 2:And if someone does, uh, look, if they're looking to have a debate with me about this or something that I said, what are they saying? Let me listen to what they're saying and then, um, I can, I can have my opinion based on that, but I've always enjoyed listening to just everyone like yeah, no, I, I I was saying before on this I actually get my news, I get all my news from Twitter.
Speaker 1:So in the morning I wake up. I go up and see what's happening on Twitter. I had to delete Twitter, but I click on Twitter and then I, if someone like say something's trending or something, I go, what happened here? I would click on and then read it and then click on the actual post to see who's replying. Because people are so fucking argumentative on Twitter that they argue back and forward about different points and I'd be like fuck, I don't really know what the fuck's going on.
Speaker 1:Twitter's awful, at least I have a fair idea of what's going on, but I don't know what the fuck inside I'm on here.
Speaker 2:Twitter's awfully negative, like that's why I had to get rid of it. I have Twitter just on my Safari, so then I'll go on like last time I went on. It was that Jack Catterall fight and I was typing in and then everyone was just talking about you. Sean McComb should have fucking beat them both.
Speaker 1:But yeah.
Speaker 2:I'll use Twitter, for it's good if something's happening in that moment and you want to see what people are saying about it. But fuck, social like Twitter is very political, so it can be very negative.
Speaker 1:So if you're going on media platform and it's just draining you every time you go on it, I'm like I don't go on it that often. I'll just, I'll like click through in the morning just to see what's like. If it's something that interests me, maybe trend, and I'll go. What's he training for? What's?
Speaker 1:he training for, and then see what's happening, see what's actually done and I seen, like because I've fucking gone, that tiktok man, it was all. Just I don't scroll on tiktok ever, like I. When ryan told me I posted a, when we posted the thing about the fucking the chemtrails in the sky, then I never clicked back on my from my post, that I never clicked back on my TikTok for like five hours and then, or Instagram, I was just busy doing stuff all day and it wasn't I don't scroll. But he texted me saying did you see these comments? It wasn't until later on that now he's like fuck, I've just gone now have a look. And I was like fuck, that's what I don't scroll for, it's just fucking yeah I'd like a menstrual comments a lot, but I don't really check.
Speaker 2:I don't really post in tiktok that much either anymore. It's tiktok's good for reaching a large amount of people, but you're always gonna have your more connected community on instagram because they're consistently seeing your posts.
Speaker 2:Um, but tiktok's what I started on. Um, that's what I actually was not going to do it at the start. My mate was doing a few videos on that and then he was like, oh, you should post. I'd on youtube at the start, like just youtube videos. Uh, it was locked down. I started my mates like, oh, you should post in tech. I goes, mate, I'm not posting on. Fucking tiktok, you mad people dancing and all. And then I posted on it and then I was like, fuck, there's something here like because the videos were just see during lockdown there was an imbalance in the creator to consumer ratio.
Speaker 2:Everyone downloaded TikTok during lockdown and they didn't post on it. Everyone posted on Instagram and stuff. So, like anyone that was posting videos during lockdown, they had a much higher chance of going viral. So I didn't really have a fucking clue what I was doing at the start. I was just posting random, but it was doing well, and then I sort of figured it out from there. But I'm quite lucky that I got into tech talk when I did. Yeah, I figured it out like because even like the top people in my industry at the time were like james smith and people like that, but he was, he wasn't doing short form content, it was all like igtvs.
Speaker 2:So I was one of the first like people in that space that actually got into short form, because my mate just told me to and I said, fuck it.
Speaker 1:You went there and hit them. Yeah, yeah so a few people says to me I was doing during COVID. I was doing like boxing demonstrations in Irish. Like, because I speak fluent Irish, my wife works for Ice TV, so I was doing like the fucking Instagram TV, the wee post on that. But I had like a series going, like a five thing series, and they were in good reach. But people, I needed to put them on TikTok and like make them shorter clips and I was like fuck, I don't even know how to work TikTok.
Speaker 1:I didn't have a TikTok. I actually only had a download of TikTok about a year and a half ago and I made one about a year and a half ago, but this during lockdown put them on tiktok because kids loads of kids are on tiktok and they're off school and this will be good. Can't remember who it was, tell me, but I remember someone saying see em videos you're putting on instagram. There'll be class for kids who aren't getting the boxing club and they'll take wee bits away. Just break every combination.
Speaker 1:I didn't do it see, if I had them I would. I know because it was getting good reach on Instagram just, and they were long, they were like four minute videos, yeah, um. So I slapped in on that. I didn't have a mate to tell me to do it, but uh no, but it's just, it's a, it's just one of them platforms you're just going in either action like it's mad because, like there's pictures, just the shade on the ice, more like it's not even worth watching yeah, in really a shit.
Speaker 1:I'm watching and I go what the fuck's this? My wee lad. Every time he gets my phone he's four and when I watch TikTok I'm like watching TikTok and me at the fuck was coaching all watching Peter Griffin and South Park and all just fucking suck my balls and I'm like what, give me a phone.
Speaker 1:He never gets my phone. He always gets fucking nervous when I hear suck my balls, mr Carson, or something. I'm like what, give me a phone and I wonder why. He's nearly getting fucked out of school. There's only four. He's in there sitting there trying to throw him out. I'm going, fuck's sake, what sort of time am I time of year, fuck's sake.
Speaker 2:On a serious note, though, like young children now are just exposed to so much that you would never have been exposed to at that age in terms of what they're saying, and all on online and on social media, and a lot of them are like, just saying like.
Speaker 1:My wee lad knows, really when I say when I can take like those wackos as backwards, I'll, you're four. You're not even primary one yet you're fucking doing that. People be texting me going because I put videos up all the time. Go, fuck, he's funny and I go he's a fucking pest. He is a pest, but they were like you need to get him his own Instagram get the fuck fuck sake, come on here like no, it'll be comedy goal and again go. Fuck, he's not a product he's my son hook sheet.
Speaker 1:I just give you a wee 10 seconds of what I have to deal with. You know you usually get the full fucking Facebook or Instagram of him, but that's like, but people do do that. Other parents make their kids Instagram, you know, make their dogs.
Speaker 2:Instagram. Yeah, I know, it's mental, it's nuts, I did the dogs. Instagram, oh Instagram, I think my sister's made one for my dog years ago.
Speaker 1:I remember one of your things you put up the R-Waker, you were talking, you done a video transcript but you just had or like you were talking, I think you'd done a video transcript or something, but you just had music playing over the whole time and you were starting out. I found that so funny.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, I was like.
Speaker 1:Scott has literally spoke for over a minute and you can't hear a word. He's saying it was just us. We team playing in the background.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, because when you put fucking music on the slide log and it mutes the clip, like so, I was like this is the first clip that I uploaded to my fucking youtube. Look how shit it was.
Speaker 1:I was like fuck it the consistency that you've shown paid off, because if that was me, I go and I go. So for straight over stuff like that, I would just go. I can't do it I can't do it, just give up, aren't I? Yeah but you've obviously grinded it out and figured it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, over the years, just that didn't have this mad goal or intention to gain millions of followers, and it was never what I wanted from the start. It just naturally happened. It was a byproduct of posting content, figuring out what works on socials and then leaning into that and like, and then lean it into that and like fuck.
Speaker 1:for a few years there I would post every single day without fail every day post, try and grow my business, do things, but now I've got this stage where I'm like I'm fucking, you've made it in terms of social media, like I've like.
Speaker 2:I don't like to say I've made it, but I've made it in terms of what I want from followers yeah I feel like people can get quite obsessed with like posting everything, like like every time they're out right, and you take a story of this and if we're going somewhere, like we need to make content, or for it like everything becomes about content and social media, and for me it's not something that's interested me. From the start.
Speaker 2:I'd never wanted to be a fucking influencer or go to like influencer network and events like fair play, if you're into that shit, but for me it's. It wasn't something that interested me. So now I like post when I want to a couple of times a week or run my businesses. I'm just happy enough. I'm just happy enough with what I've done. I'm the same, like I.
Speaker 1:I very rarely. I post, maybe twice a week. My whole, my whole Instagram just went from boxing. I don't notice that that's the way it's went, and I would only post it boxing when I was training. I would never video myself training, or if someone videoed me doing pause, maybe I'll put it up, but I've never actually fucking like being one of them ones who's obsessed and just posting everything I'm doing every day. I wouldn't even ask people for a photo at the end of training and the sparring.
Speaker 1:People would like go? We'll get a photo. I go. I know sweat but I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2:I don't know where I'm gonna get a photo like to prove they've done it.
Speaker 1:I don't care what other people think oh, is he training? I know myself what I'm doing and I'm not training and that. So fuck, at least someone can't say you mustn't be training because you haven't posted this week.
Speaker 2:That's the thing. And then you feel like you feel like you need to show everything that you're doing. Once you start it like, oh, if I'm posting my training and I'm not posting, people are going to think that I'm not training. Yeah, it's mad, but a lot of boxers in terms of the fights and the money that they make by social media too.
Speaker 1:So it's a double edged sword actually. I would any advice I would give to a kid going out now. I would say get big, get talking, get out there on social media. If you're good, do it even if you're not good, you may end up falling into misfits and fucking making a bag of money off that as I said, I've got to stage now where it's not a major stress in my life, but I'm so glad that I've done it yeah I'm so glad that I was obsessed with it for a while to post every single day, because that made me what I am now.
Speaker 2:Give me the businesses that have the freedom that I have to travel. So I think it's just important to get that. You know that when you get to the stage that when you do have enough, you're like I'm happy enough, I can cruise here, whereas some people never get that stage. But don't get me wrong. To anyone listening that is thinking about starting social media or posting content or putting yourself out there in any way, shape or form, don't listen to me saying I only do it a few times a week. No, it's not amazing, because I've already.
Speaker 2:I've spent the years done it so like going all in with something like that at the start. It can completely transform your life.
Speaker 1:It's Curtis was on last week and he was sending his text a few times last week because he wants to go, because he wants to help people too, and he's got such an incredible story that he will like I was telling me to talk about your story.
Speaker 2:Just talk, like it doesn't have to be anything complicated, just get content up and talk. But he'll do really well from it, like yeah, 100% because he's just inspirational when he talks. He's on podcasts 100%.
Speaker 1:He's always been a good friend of mine and he's actually extending my head shit. This weekend he's coming. We're going to go to Paul Hughes' fight together, but he's like what he has is very unique. It can only inspire people because of what he's came through and like the same eye and like seeing him walking and smiling and laughing and just it's like it's very easy for people to give up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and from the start there are so many people. But he just had that mindset from the start he's like no, this I will.
Speaker 1:I will get back there, because when we went in the hospital, the same he was. Literally he couldn't move, but he was still like. He was like he was talking, completely normal. This is insane. This is the first time I've seen someone like that and we all heard it. All our mates were like what the fuck happened around? And then so we went down and visited him and he was just completely normal, from here up, talking, telling us everything what happened, and you can remember this happening and you can remember that happening and I was like this is completely normal and he can't even move a finger anymore. But the last time I seen him was like four days ago, five days ago, and he was normal and I was like what like? But even then, in that position, when it just happened, he was like no, I'll be, I'll be on the field again.
Speaker 1:I'll be walking again and I was like I know you will, I know you will. Like, the minute he said it it was like believable. Even when he was sent to me it's very easy for someone to go the doctors are saying he's never gonna walk. I don't know what the doctor first sent this days, but I remember all that's going like oh, he's here, like yeah, and then ryan says to me and me and my brother running to visit him, and he was like no, I'll walk, I'll definitely be on my feet again, like. And when he said it, I believe it. I was like I know you will, I know you will just from the way you say that you fucking know it and I know it. So it's like it's inspiring. And even if he was just to talk himself through, like if he was to put up like 30 second videos himself, talking like every day, people would be like.
Speaker 2:That's a prime example of someone that can use their social media for something so so positive. Yeah, like there's a lot of people that use social media just for their own good or just for their ego or whatever, but see people here in his journey. They'll be able to relate it back, no matter where they're at at their point in life, even if it's unrelated to like physical injuries or anything like fuck. If he got through that, yeah and he's sitting there being this positive, this thing that I'm going through, I can fucking do. It.
Speaker 1:See, when I was on that 12 when I run that 12 made in the morphing. That's actually. Yeah, ram, give anything to?
Speaker 2:be in my position.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly and I was running. That's when I was running through the waterworks and I was like Ryan Curtis would give and he's a good, close friend of mine and he would give anything to be in my position right now to be as flick, as mobile as I am right now. So don't even dare, fucking complain. My feet were blistered off it, off me, but I was like, don't even dare, I'm playing and I didn't, I just fucking jogged on. I was just like thinking of him and how far he's came. So he inspires me. You know what I mean? Yeah, and it's fucking, it's class to see like. But, as you say, he wants to grow his social media to help people. So I think if you're doing it as you like people who your social media is never for yourself no, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:like people?
Speaker 1:don't document their whole life on social media just for themselves, because you always have the memories. You're actually doing it for other people all the time, but if you're doing it to help people, it'll grow bigger and that's the thing people need to realise.
Speaker 2:Like a lot of people complain their page isn't growing or whatever. But what's other people getting out of your page? What value are you providing them? Because the only reason anyone will follow anyone is because of what it does for them as a follower, even people that do post their full life. Some people relate to them, some people find them funny.
Speaker 2:You have to have something to offer people if you want to grow your page and if you want to get reach. But people, if you want to grow your page and if you want to, you want to get rich. But everything that I've done on social media, every single post, like right, what, what is this gonna do for someone else? How is it gonna?
Speaker 1:help someone else. Yeah, well, yeah, I remember your, your, I think one of your videos during that was it may have been during lockdown or just the end of lockdown about the bread, eating bread every meal was it for a week yeah, and you dropped, was it?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was way well. After lockdown it was actually just a couple of years ago I'd done the sandwich challenge 30 days. I only had sandwiches for 30 days, just to show that you could that you like. So it's all well and good.
Speaker 1:I used that in our gym. They were members. I was like, like everyone, like the amount of girls, especially girls, going like bread yeah just watch this but it's all well and good, just saying it all.
Speaker 2:You can eat carbs, you can eat bread. I was like fuck this, I'm documenting every single sandwich that I eat and like that's probably what I had the most. People like approached me because they had something to talk about. You know where someone will see you and they might not approach you because they don't know what to say. Everyone would like if I was in tesco. Oh, what fucking sandwiches are you getting? Today everyone's calling me sandwich boy, like uh, but that was fucking, that was crack. That was a fun experiment to do because that sort of embodied everything that I talked about and put it into a fun practical experiment. But things like that are fun. I've done the sandwich challenge, done the wrap challenge, done the potato challenge, so it's just all like different forms of carbs.
Speaker 1:Just the same message, but it's the same message, but it's different that you can't eat bread, you can't eat Disney but it just proves that you can and still fucking because Tron McCullough I don't know if you know Tron McCullough- he boxed out.
Speaker 2:He fucking does he box anymore.
Speaker 1:Nah, he's retired. But see, when he boxed, he would have been another extremist of dropping weight, that's why he's such a good runner.
Speaker 1:He can run like 10k in 31 minutes fucking freak, absolute freak. And he's just ran his whole life, um, with sweat suits on and he's like he's a tremendous runner, like. But he used to have this thing called the sad death. A sandwich a day, that's all. He would eat one sandwich every day for like six weeks and I like, honestly, maybe just nibble on something else, but like, that was his, that was what he done like in camp and make weight sandwich day.
Speaker 1:He called it a sad camp sandwich a day, sad camp, and I was like fuck me, it's probably why he's retiring now, like just but he would blow up massive and then cut load and he done that through his whole, like I remember it could be good for you, that like see as an amateur boxer.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. It's a lot harder in terms of the approach to losing weight because you can't. It's very hard to trap weight dramatically on fight week because you have to weigh in again if you win. So if we go to world championships, we weigh in. The draw is made, you fight once you win. You fight the next day. You have to weigh in the next morning so they were trapping.
Speaker 1:So Tyrone was trapping like 5 kilos in 2 days, putting 5 kilos back on, fighting, having to lose again the next day. And now we do that as a pro. Once, like I was trapping 5 kilos in 2 days as a pro, taking fair weight, taking carb, taking salt out and just letting the water flush out, and it's an easy session. But I'm only suffering once. See if I thought for one second. I had to read the article the other day. I was just fucking caught quits. I couldn't just stand that. So that's where it all goes wrong. But sandwich of the day, fuck me, what a day. Don't try that one. Do not document that one. Do not document that one.
Speaker 2:You're fucking, you're fucked. I was on four sandwiches a day like I don't know, keep me fucking.
Speaker 1:I could eat a sandwich every meal. That's my see. My favourite food to eat is a see. If we're going out anywhere to eat is a sandwich.
Speaker 2:So you can put anything in a sandwich, literally anything you want bread. It's beautiful, graceful like, isn't it?
Speaker 1:the old school my fucking dad would describe like he didn't even butter it, just dry it like a big, like a hill of a bread he just fucking threw like fucking a mince pan and I'm like what, when I just oh fuck he's in card frapping talking.
Speaker 2:What was he saying? A sausage roll on something else. He was at some thing.
Speaker 1:Sausage roll inside a fucking bop no, that's what they do in Belfast, do you not do that?
Speaker 2:I have not had a sausage roll bop. A sausage roll bop, that was a common thing, we all eat up here. I never had one.
Speaker 1:I was in the bakery yesterday getting like a Belfast bop and my brother came in. He was working and he was like fuck me, what's up? First thing you order is a sausage roll bop. People do it Sausage roll bop with brown sauce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the dry sauce is roll bop now Great.
Speaker 1:Tell me on the way down the road you fly, when you get there and fuck the fly everywhere, mate, I don't know how to say this. It crumbles everywhere. It's like a scratch card. Fuck you Fucking, flying everywhere, but listen as we speak about your flying down the road.