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The Public Nuisance Podcast
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The Public Nuisance Podcast #028 “Snipers Nightmare” with Jenna McCusker
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome business owner and podcaster, Jenna McCusker to the podcast.
We cover Podcasting, Jenna’s Accident, Straight jackets, Nicknames, TikTok and much more.
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The Public Newsness, sean McCann. Welcome to this episode of the Public Newsness Podcast, brought to you from Killin Studios, right here, where you can get all your content done, from photo shoots to podcasts tailored for you. You name it, we've got it. Also, this week, dropping is the Public Newsness merch Brand new merch will be available to you and I will drop the link and you can purchase. Get it. Tag me, let's rock. What is the day we have our very own jenna mccusker, hi I'm good, thank you thank you for coming up, appreciate the journey.
Speaker 1:It's a long journey and so I'm sure it's a long day for you.
Speaker 2:I am currently doing everything that I tell my son not to do, so I'm meeting a strange man in the middle of Belfast well, no, we're not in Belfast, where are?
Speaker 1:we Ballyclare, ballyclare, even stranger, ballyclare, even stranger do they do fridge magnets here?
Speaker 2:like I love Ballycl, I'll get one you might be able to get one.
Speaker 1:I don't know if there's much tourism there.
Speaker 2:I was very out of place, walking up and down the streets there.
Speaker 1:I know you got a few peeps as well did you a few people peeping at me. We waving, all we waving, we loving all the attention we're getting no.
Speaker 2:I nearly slipped down the crack. Everyone you know help.
Speaker 1:Where am I I? It's not too bad. The coffee's good. They serve green tea they serve green tea.
Speaker 2:What the hell. I know they're a bit more advanced than I thought.
Speaker 1:Jana taxed me on the way up, saying, does Ballyclare sell green tea? And I said fuck, we'll find out. In a minute they'll be there and ask you. And they asked do you sell green tea? And she was like what do you want? You're probably beating the dust off.
Speaker 2:Do you not drink coffee? I do, but I'm at my limit.
Speaker 1:What is your limit?
Speaker 2:Two cups a day, two of them Aye.
Speaker 1:Two already.
Speaker 2:I know, but I had my appointment.
Speaker 1:I drink one a day but if I have to drink two, I'll drink two.
Speaker 2:I had that no rules in your house. I had that appointment in Belfast too. The Royal and the nurse was like oh, your, like, oh, your blood pressure's through the roof, we're not doing anything.
Speaker 1:based of his will have a podcast today after this and I'm a guest and she's like great, okay, this is your first as a guest, is it? I actually first as a guest? You were nervous, I'm so scared. I'm not gonna lie, I'm all right, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2:Well, my guest comes on now. I'm not gonna be like, oh, you're grand, I'm gonna totally know how they feel. Yeah, do you know what I mean? It's a good experience, suppose, as well as you know what I mean 100%.
Speaker 1:It's a good experience, I suppose as well, because you know, I always get people who speak, like loads of people who speak in front of the camera and speak, but then come in here in person and they're just on the edge because they're not in control of it. That's what you were saying that you're not in control of the editing where I'm the complete opposite I just rock, go ahead, just do whatever, do you?
Speaker 2:have to do you watch it back nah, I understand it sounds you're brave, do you not forget what you say sometimes I? Can't remember what I say, I just no, I I have to, because see a podcast is a conversation and sometimes you forget that it's being recorded and sometimes I would name drop people that I'm not meant to.
Speaker 1:I do it as well. I do it in stories when I'm talking about my mates and all.
Speaker 2:That's okay, but I mean people that you're taking to court.
Speaker 1:When you're taking people to court, it's a different story.
Speaker 2:Courts suffer and I kind of have to keep their name out of it. So that's the only time I ever have to go back.
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Speaker 2:Aye, so I do get asked to go on a lot of podcasts, but it's very Serious Because, obviously, my own podcast is serious and then it's based off my own life events that were kind of serious. Yeah, but it's very um serious because obviously, my own podcast is serious and then it's based off my own life events that were kind of serious. But I am such a dark humored person and I deal with trauma with humor, which is really odd, like but um the ones that have been asking me.
Speaker 2:I'm just not ready yet, but I feel like this is total shade talk.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I know that's good so this is perfect, a perfect I wouldn't. I always feel like when I know guests, I know like guests backgrounds or have like traumatic backgrounds, I try not to dive too deep into it because it gets too serious. I still like you. I would try and have a bit of crack with it.
Speaker 2:I know I'd want to like Ryan.
Speaker 1:Curtis, we were slagging last week Like I was saying about the wheelchair and just messing around. We were fucking about he's laughing.
Speaker 2:What did you say to him I?
Speaker 1:was just having banter about him in a wheelchair. I was saying we'll get you up the stairs. When I speak no stairs hi he says as well, you're not in the wheelchair, you'd have been fucking sitting inside and we'd have done the podcast inside.
Speaker 2:When he was on my podcast, because it's so close actually, now that I think about it, I'm scarily close to the guest. Maybe I kicked him because I moved and I went. Sorry, I bet you didn't feel that and it was just out of my mouth. Yeah, because he's fucking, but I felt like that I could say it because I was the same as him.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? He's good for that. We of mates are slagging about. I said like last week he was pulling in and when he parked we were going to the pfl. When he parked too close to wall. One of that says reverse backer and he says now I'll get out here. He says me, it'll take you long enough getting out of cars. It isn't remain not even barely getting the door open. So he understands the humor and he understands the crack.
Speaker 2:The good thing is he he's on his feet and he's I think that's why we're able to laugh about it, because we're walking like if we were still in the world we'll just have commit the other end of it like I haven't even spoke about you as well and your accent you so, for anyone that doesn't know, obviously you had your own accent and you were paralyzed from the mines was the west down.
Speaker 2:So I say accident because it's so hard, it's so boring. Actually I love to say I got attacked by a tiger bit by a shark, but it was something less than that. Literally, I was doing 5k, like I'd done every other morning, and I moved wrong the time I left and the base of my spine just collapsed Serious Aye, fuck me the nerves at the bottom. So they all control your bladder, your bowels, your kidneys, all that there, and then your actual legs.
Speaker 1:So I lost everything, the rest of everything were you out on the road when that happened?
Speaker 2:no, I was just warming up in the house, or what no, just at the quay. So the quay is a like a walkway and dairy or runway whatever, and it's something that I still do so.
Speaker 1:Who found you? I was with my sister oh, were you fuck me, I know. And what did? Did you clap, did you not? Were you not there running, or?
Speaker 2:like no, it was like a gradual like every half an hour and all our body part was gone. So when I was sitting in A&E I was like like my bladder went and I was like, no, something's wrong. No, like I literally can't not feel it was. It was just, I know.
Speaker 1:That's the first time I've even thought about it. It's so scary because so how did you, did you get to anybody walking or did I get what? Sorry like, did you walk to the car to get there?
Speaker 2:I drove to any, and my car was parked at any then for a month. What the?
Speaker 1:I know because I was blue lady you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm surprised you didn't um a month side. My daddy went back after a month and it was sitting with all my stuff in it as normal, just about to start my day work, days, work. But um, I was bullied at the end from only gilvin the belfast, and that was me.
Speaker 1:So I kind of have ptsd so see, when you went to any, what did you say?
Speaker 2:did you say, my backs were I just said I felt a pop and like ice, cold water running down the back of me, take a seat, and I mean. I was there about six hours, and every half hour it was just getting worse and then I couldn't walk and do you believe, if they were to see you immediately, that you would have?
Speaker 1:I think so, aye wouldn't have been so severe aye, I was told that fucking hell, that's ridiculous, like, isn't it? And like. I always google now first to look what the waiting times are. If I go, I always say there's any waiting. This is what happens.
Speaker 2:People rather suffer than go and sit in any I feel like I'm that way too, but I really felt like I knew something was wrong. Do you know what I mean? Like you just don't wet yourself, for like I know that's it, like I couldn't stand now that's weird.
Speaker 1:It's weird because you would think it would be like you would be in agony when you hear someone's fucking paralysis legs it was.
Speaker 2:It was horrific pain, but only down one leg, so they were probably thinking it was the attic. I had to be fair to them, but they didn't.
Speaker 1:They didn't really listen to me that's what happens, like I think a lot of people like lose trust in the, in the way they do things, because there's been a lot of shit that's happened over the years with maybe family members and stuff that no one really like that probably could have been prevented aye so that's like me, me included. I pay for like private health aye private health insurance for me, my wife and the child, just because?
Speaker 2:definitely the way to go. I wouldn't fucking waste my time going to.
Speaker 1:NHS. Yes, now there's a service up in up in Lisburn, but you can ring first. You can ring. Nhs first and book an appointment so they take. Like I put my hand on one of my feet and next morning I got up and rang and says did the service come up at 11am? I've been at 11am. I was out for like quarter past twelve so cast and all, cast and all.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good so sweet.
Speaker 1:Well then, they get the cast on. They try to put a cast on. I told them that too, because I was going holiday the next day.
Speaker 2:I was going to be a keeper, so we were like this is your tour. You need to fucking get them wrapped up, they're your money makers, nah fuck that I just didn't go on holiday.
Speaker 1:I'll do already started healing.
Speaker 2:Oh, aye, oh, fuck it Aye.
Speaker 1:I'm already nagging, still once.
Speaker 2:Aye.
Speaker 1:But I have just no trust in the way my granny actually broke her back two weeks ago. Oh God, my granny was reaching for the light switch one night, fucking like two in the morning. She was down getting a glass of water but she was facing my man right. She tried to turn the light switch off anyway and fell and fucking she hurt herself so she couldn't get up. She couldn't physically get up, so she just pulled a wee like pull over off the chair and just lay on the ground all night. Oh, God.
Speaker 1:And my uncle came in the next morning and was like what the fuck are you doing? She was laying on the floor, I can't get up. I fell on my back. So she got up anyway, up and brought her to the hospital up in Laggan Valley, reagan Ring, first Right and then they seen her within like an hour, and then they just kept her in.
Speaker 2:and then later on that night I found out she broke two wee bones at the bottom of her back. Christ, how is she now? She's on her feet again. Aye, did she have to get?
Speaker 1:surgery. She's 88 like now. No surgery what a woman the fucking. I don't know what way they dealt with looked like, but two wee bones wee small bones about her back broke. But she's back on her feet and that's amazing.
Speaker 2:I was only four weeks old on my way from Derry to Belfast my right hand side was Stalgrand at that stage and I was out of my head and gas and air. They were giving me gas and air the whole way down and I was trying to sell them products and all me lying in my room. I couldn't feel anything and it was oh, you've got gas suck dry air, I'll get my work done. The pain was unbearable, but whenever I woke from the surgery, that's whenever it was complete paralyzing, and.
Speaker 2:I kept saying please tell me, did you do something wrong?
Speaker 1:because like I was grand, like I wasn't grand, you were sweet.
Speaker 2:Going down, you were still moving my right hand side was grand yeah, but after that surgery it was zero, like nothing, and they were all coming in and I was like I had a feeling that they maybe done something wrong because they brought me back. Well, I was in hospital but I was taken down twice again for reversals I think it was kind of, and thankfully on the third one. Then the right hand side started coming back so what?
Speaker 1:how long did it take? You like we were paralyzed? For what? Three weeks, four weeks?
Speaker 2:six weeks it was uh, and then I was put on the whole six weeks I don't know. And then I got moved then up to elton gilvan because I wouldn't go to my screen and then what processes?
Speaker 1:hardly today, you were saying you had to learn how to walk on all of you so how to learn how to walk again.
Speaker 2:So that was kind of, as soon as you're out of a wheelchair, they can't, I don't really care, they can't just boot you up the hole and send you home. But um no, my house was adapted before I came home like ot and stuff had like aids and all, and they kind of just came out to see if, if you needed help. But I was trying to be independent because I had my son and I never wanted him to see me in a wheelchair but he did anyway, like he still remembers it, so I don't know why I was trying to keep it from him.
Speaker 1:Like you can't prevent that. If you need it, you need it I mean, it's just one of them things, but it's probably a good mindset.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Just to go out walking, like to learn you, like, like being told you're gonna have to walk again.
Speaker 2:And whenever I was on the world, I kept saying to them like what did? Am I going to start walking again? And they were like she's crazy.
Speaker 1:I sent her the psychiatric unit. I don't know, I don't date on time right now.
Speaker 2:But um, they, they were just it's been hs. I know they're like struggling and whatever, but the physiotherapist only came in for 15 minutes in the morning and like I was like I need more and like I need someone to come on here all day. Every day I'm trying to get home, so you can't sleep in a hospital anyway. And four, I was up four or five in the morning so I used to get the bun beside my bed.
Speaker 2:Now, the way you have to push it yeah, so I was using my bare foot oh, yeah, pushing pushing never was working, but I kept thinking if I keep doing it, my body might remember. But it's a weird feeling looking at your legs and going both, like your mind is telling it, and then you're trying to as well. It's the weirdest, the weirdest feeling, isn't it?
Speaker 1:like I couldn't imagine it like this. You're just numb from the waist down after being so like being so flat, like you're out doing a 5k run and the next thing you can't fucking no, she'll just put shoes in your hands and learn to walk in.
Speaker 2:Imagine that such a good idea Boxing gloves on your feet start kicking people. I'd go on legs too. I'd be able to knock them clean out.
Speaker 1:Oh, I fucking hate it.
Speaker 2:Imagine that they should do that as a service down the Royal. Anyone we've broken or paralysed from the West Town. We know you have this thing. We teach you how to walk on your hands.
Speaker 1:Aye you walk on your hands, aye, like all them calisthenics. You know the guys that fucking deal with my calisthenics, but the training with the walking around oh, I I muscle-ups a lot. Colonel. Hi, they'd be alright if they go party somebody's turn, I'll just walk on their hands.
Speaker 2:I know I'm a look for Ryan.
Speaker 1:He was paralyzed from the neck so he couldn't even use his hands so I never see the video with it. You don't podcast. Well, the lads and all our mates went down to visit him and he had a fire stick in his room, so they all pop and put the fire stick remote in his hand and turned the volume rate up and all the after rooms. When the nurse came in he was paralyzed. When I got down and the remote was in his hand he was like I didn't put that on, it wasn't?
Speaker 1:me and we were all outside laughing that is brilliant.
Speaker 2:And also bullying. You bullied him. That's brilliant. He took it well he took it.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, he says he was fucking pure scundered, but I was like scundered.
Speaker 2:Scundered is a word that I learned when I was on the royal, because the staff used it she's never used scundered before, so in the day we say scundered which means fed up. So I was saying to them down there I'm scundered because I'm fed up being like I'm scundered and she was all. Why are you embarrassed for uh?
Speaker 1:is that what you mean? Embarrassed? And I was all. No, I'm fed up fuck me. So I learnt that I thought I thought Scunard was like a universal well, not universal. I thought it was nice. Now Daphne and Daphne.
Speaker 2:I think you just made that up you used me.
Speaker 1:You used me to have Scunard maybe we did.
Speaker 2:We just make up everything up and down.
Speaker 1:I just would have thought Scunard scorned was like the same as scundered.
Speaker 2:Normally you pronounce it different we only live an hour apart and it's like complete different terminology down here I can't do it.
Speaker 1:One one accent that I can't do is a dairy accent. Try, I can't do it like if you, if you listen to anything.
Speaker 2:Call her when she lost her, or lost her to the birth, she forgot her for it. There did a birth, remember that? Or lost her to the birth. She forgot her. Or did a birth remember that?
Speaker 1:what's it say? I can't remember, I can't remember my name.
Speaker 2:Why am I putting on an accident? I'm from Derry, you just talk.
Speaker 1:You just talk like you're Nadine Coyle.
Speaker 2:I'll try it after my name is Nadine Coyle and I'm from Larkhall in Derry did a birth is the 15th of the 6th, 86, 86, I think something like that, but you give her.
Speaker 1:My name is Nadine. Coyle I can't do it. I sound like a scotty egg.
Speaker 2:I was going to say you sound like you took a stroke. My name is.
Speaker 1:Nadine Coyle, coyle Coyle, I don't know. My name is Nadine Coyle. I'm born the 15th, the 6th, the 19th no, you just sound the exact same. I thought I was putting on a wee bit of a Scottish twanger. No, it sounds Scottish, I think, do you think? But a Scottish accent's easier to do than the Italian accent. Aye, it is. Aye, I don't like when.
Speaker 2:Aye aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. I don't like how you say my name, not you. Belfast people, people loving Belfast, jana.
Speaker 1:Jana.
Speaker 2:I hate it, jenna.
Speaker 1:Jenna it's an E they always say Jana like J-A-N-N-A used to ground me we pronounce it like that Jana Jana, jana. Is that what you're saying? Jenna sounds the same to me like is it Jana?
Speaker 2:Jana get that over there, jana get that over there, jana, but I have a really thick, strong Belfast accent. I do.
Speaker 1:I've. I had a when we used to go to Dublin. Paddy Barnes is like the worst. I can't even understand him half the time do you know what?
Speaker 2:Ryan Curtis mentioned him because I said to him on my podcast did you have trouble understanding me? And he said, if I can understand, paddy Barron is Barron. Paddy Barron, I can understand anyone and I was like who is this? And he said he's got the thickest Belfast.
Speaker 1:Accident, accident, accident he, uh, he's the worst. I know like I struggle to understand him sometimes, but uh, when we went to Dublin, some girl in the spa he used to work in the spa I was served this after training and she says I can understand, paddy, but I can't understand you, and I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:You must be bad, then I'm very bad. I don't know who he is. I must look him up.
Speaker 1:Paddy Aye, three-time Olympian, two-time Olympic bronze medalist.
Speaker 2:I don't know anything about anything. European champion.
Speaker 1:Commonwealth Games gold medalist well, maybe I do.
Speaker 2:You know, man, a flag bar for the games I do now. I remember him now.
Speaker 1:No, I don't boxing's like popular and Dara, you should know all the boxers.
Speaker 2:Do you know Conor Coyle? I know Conor well yeah he was on my podcast a few times. He's lovely, isn't he?
Speaker 1:Canada and stuff when we were younger, like 2010, he's.
Speaker 2:He is an introvert ah, you're very. Ah, I would be sort of because all the point like he's so calm and I said to him how the hell are you so calm and collected?
Speaker 1:you go and punch your head out boys for a living I know he's siren like, but I suppose you just have to get to know people, isn't it?
Speaker 2:like all right, you know him differently.
Speaker 1:No yeah, I don't. I don't know him any different than you do I. Just I will probably like I would say I do. Obviously those lads are different than when they're in a group and a group of lads. But true, yeah I just mean, like if you don't know someone and you only meet them as like a one-to-one, it's like, do you know what I mean? You don't really. You're not going to open up and be just fucking this mad person uh maybe you are in a group of friends.
Speaker 2:See, I try and be the opposite, like I try and and be open and all out there, because I am. I was telling you before we started I think I'm an introvert. No, I know I'm an introvert, like all I do is work and then whenever I have to do like public things, like I panic. Like last night I was lying going. Are you off your fucking head?
Speaker 1:why are you going on a podcast?
Speaker 2:even though I have control over that. So if I do say anything, then I can just what's your, what's your ambition for your podcast?
Speaker 1:what do you want? What do you want to achieve, just like helping people, do you know? What I the main thing is just helping people so it's all my money going into it.
Speaker 2:So that's how you know it. As a passion project. It's not like I'm making anything of it and the guests are there and so far that is that is what it is, but I have got some work from it yeah, like public speaking and stuff like that, which is great, great for you know, to share inspiration and then also to get paid.
Speaker 1:I don't like it. It's an. It's an inspirational way to be fair, like there's fucking very few people that have come back from fucking, being paralysed, and I think like we're now starting to see a wee bit more now, like where it's. I actually have a guy on next week and he was saying the same thing. Something happened to him where he was fucking and he's walking again.
Speaker 2:So there's a while out of people being paralysed. What is going on?
Speaker 1:I know fuck sake it's a vaccine. What was our?
Speaker 2:mommies, I didn't get it. I didn't get it either no, I don't know, I just think. I don't know personally, I think mine was a result of severe, severe stress were you like?
Speaker 1:so the mental health side of things, was your mental health bad?
Speaker 2:my mental health was awful, so that happened to me with my back. I feel like that was karma to me why? What did you do wrong?
Speaker 1:What did you do wrong?
Speaker 2:I'm just going to cancel myself. So I'd say, about a month or two before that happened I wanted to take my own life and I tried to take my own life at that spot on the quay.
Speaker 1:I'm laughing. I hate stuff like this. Don't make me laugh. Sorry, folks, don't talk.
Speaker 2:Seriously, it's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1:This is where I can go on your podcast, because I can't, I can't do shit like this?
Speaker 2:do you ever see the podcast of the boy? He said that he got molested when he was younger by his uncle or something and he had Down Syndrome and they literally could not breathe.
Speaker 1:I've seen that. Yeah, and I'm like say it again, we're straight faces you can't.
Speaker 2:No, you can't. That's why I'd be afraid of my own podcast. I'm sweating fucks because sometimes I'd be dying to slip on a dark humour joke, but you literally can't, because you don't know if this person is ready for it like I am, like I am grand for it. Nice bit when you get that walking around no, no, in my when I'm doing public speaking like one minute, they'll be laughing the next day they'll be like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:but that's how I deal with it. I deal with it for humour, so that's my karma for doing that.
Speaker 1:It is do you see, not what I seen this morning. See in Switzerland, they've just made a pot, a suicide pot it's legal can you give me the details? I already put you on the guest list now that's there.
Speaker 2:You're booked in for next week. That would solve a while a lot of hassle out there, just heading off there.
Speaker 1:There has to be there's like a big debate. I was reading about it saying it's like it's causing severe debate because, like what's, there has to be a severe illness before you're allowed to do it right like a terminal illness.
Speaker 2:It's legal, so you can't just go like I am fucked off.
Speaker 1:Once you get into it, they cash in.
Speaker 2:You're dead in seconds but also I do agree with it a bit, because on that day, whenever I didn't want to like, I would have went into that Paul, yeah. But now looking back I'm like no, but yours wasn't a severe illness.
Speaker 1:Yours was just mental health it was.
Speaker 2:It was things that were they weren't in my head. It was things that were genuinely happening, happening to me.
Speaker 1:So I actually I'm sorry, I'm just wondering how you like.
Speaker 1:I'm laughing how do people get it's listen? It's fucking. It's something. I've lost lots of family members too, like so like I've been an advocate for fucking suicide awareness in Belfast, in West Belfast. I was like their fucking main, like just their main advocate for it and done loads of work, loads of charity work for it. But it just me personally. I just fucking I can't when people tell me I'm like fuck, someone tells me to die or something or someone died. I just can't. I'm not that bad it.
Speaker 2:It's like a nervous thing. I don't know what else.
Speaker 1:I don't know what else to say. I don't like giving sympathy To people and I don't like taking sympathy. So I'm like I just laugh Because I'm like what the fuck do you want me to say here?
Speaker 2:Aye, no, I have a really funny story Actually about Dying, no, the end.
Speaker 2:Whatever, I was really bad. Then my sisters were on so you site watch Because I bad. Then my sisters were on suicide watch because I couldn't be left to me and it was horrible, like I'm trying to be serious, but they were like we can't deal with you anymore, can you just fuck off and die. You know what you're gonna. They were like can you go on the psychiatric unit and you know, maybe you might need some help? And so I went and the psychiatrist was like like they were bonged, that they had no room for me. So he was did not want to let me in, which he did, but I'll let you know anyway. So he was doing this big assessment. He was like I don't think that you need to be here because, like, the things that you're telling me are things that are actually happening in your life. It's not on your head. You know you're not having a psychotic episode now, so please let me in. Like I need help, right, right, going on. So I get on right, and I was in like a cupboard cupboard.
Speaker 1:Fuck me, they must have just fucking.
Speaker 2:I think the pad itself was booked. So, um, they put me in a lot of cupboard. I had a bed in it, like, but it was a mix shift room and I rung my sisters and I was like I'm a cupboard like in this, you just need to come, get me the fuck out of here. And they were like no, you need to stay in. What do you think? You're going to the Hilton and like obviously there's really sick people in there. They're mentally unwell, it has a mental hospital. And that's whenever I realised that psychiatrist was right, like I do not need to be in here. So they came over at visitant time seeing what it was like that I had just convinced the psychiatrist that I was mentally unwell. They let me in. They now convinced that I had a 360 and now that I was there could I go home?
Speaker 1:And they let me Because he must have knew that's fucked up. Maybe he just but he knew. He obviously has a profession in what he does. He knew that you weren't fucking in that thing.
Speaker 2:What I was saying to him I was like I don't want, like I'm struggling, and he was probably all go home and take a day off or something. I don't know what do you want on here, but I know that was the start of it then, and then then, a few weeks after then, that's what happened to me back, so I think it was karma. Fuck me, I know.
Speaker 1:There you go. Jesus Christ, fucking sure this left you in there. Sweet foxy, I know, imagine you were still there because, like imagine they just says right, we're not releasing her. I know I just never released you, just sanctioned you and like, sanctioned you and just kept you there that sounds good too, though no, I'm only joking.
Speaker 2:Like a holiday camp I was. I was there in 2013, for that time was like nine days as well. Same thing I had ocd but wasn't controlled, and then that was really mad. Like to see the story. Well, obviously it's psychiatric and, um, I was actually telling this story to a boy recently, so they try. I don't know if you've ever been in prison I haven't but I'm guessing this is what it's like fair enough, say I, like there's never been in prison but did you have to go out under the canteen and mgle with?
Speaker 1:all the patients right.
Speaker 2:So they were like go out and mangle them all. I was like I'm afraid of them and you know I don't want them. They were like you need to go out. So I went out and I was eating my dinner and whatever, and this girl was all. Excuse me, love. Do you know who I am? I'm Bobby Sands.
Speaker 1:Fuck.
Speaker 2:Right. So I'm mentally unwell so I'm trying to figure out is fucking Bobby Sands right?
Speaker 1:beside me Is this Bobby, so I thought I was being tricked. Am I having what's going on?
Speaker 2:And I answered back. I was like Bobby Sands is a man. Then she was like deadly serious, like tell me all about eating and all.
Speaker 1:so I was like, went down to the room after and the nurse was like. I overheard that. You know this is a really unwell patient and I was like but I'm really unwell too and I don't need.
Speaker 2:Bobby Sands beside me when I'm trying to eat my dinner. It's a bit rude more unwell, more unwell. So the next day I went out and she comes over again. Can I tell you I am. And I says you told me yesterday, bobby Sands, she goes. No, I'm Marlon Monroe, I go. You're putting that on now going away out of my way. But the boy that I was telling this to recently, he was like that is mental, because he himself had some kind of breakdown and was put under the same hospital and thought he was bobby sands. What's going on? Why does everyone want to be bobby?
Speaker 1:sands must be hitting them a foot in strong gear.
Speaker 2:Isn't he anyway?
Speaker 1:Fuck's a guy. You don't probably sound on the black end?
Speaker 2:No, I very much myself. That's matter. Oh, fuck me, being me is matter.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's matter. I fucking never said anything before. I was like, well, you know what? My dad actually worked in Knockbracken. It's like the old people's home in Knockbracken. He was like eight, seventeen or eighteen and I'm just gonna like being a porter and like helping him around the place and I was in it for two days and I'm gone earlier just full of lunatics like just like I know they're all fucking old.
Speaker 1:They're all older people but gee, fucking insane, like I just fell. My dad used to bring the tesco's every day and he would went to Tesco's and bought like 60 bottle 2 litre bottles of coke and walked back from Tesco trying them himself in a trolley. Oh, in a trolley right fucking insane just every day, just like any time he got out did he sell it?
Speaker 2:was there a coke dealer?
Speaker 1:he was trying to sell it. He was trying to sell. He was a coke dealer within the place. So what happened was he started. Well, he started selling like bottles of coconut and selling stuff to the other patients. And then my dad had to go and buy him a shop or not a shop a shed, a big, massive shed where he could store it all. And he built a shed for him and then he had like Mars bars and he just started storing all this wee fucking talk show an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2:He wasn't allowed to do it.
Speaker 1:I like it but he, he was saying it was for his own use. But honestly, I was selling it to the patients that many bottles of coke on his own loads nailing them. He fucking his head, he was nuts and he wouldn't get wiser than him.
Speaker 1:So every time I was in the place all you could hear was him squealing to to try and get him into the shower and he wouldn't get in. Oh god, aye. And his fucking beard was down there and there was bits of crisps on it and just fucking bits of food and all stuck in his big massive beard.
Speaker 2:Would you buy something off him, though, to eat?
Speaker 1:oh fuck me I'm concept wording, because they were eating all around him. They were loving it big balls of coke see when I get to that age in. Sweden, or was?
Speaker 2:it Sweden, did you say.
Speaker 1:Switzerland, switzerland, aye there, take me there straight to the pot when I start growing a beard aye big beard over the beard over the wee colony, fucks sake. But see, as like they all do, the smoke loads of them.
Speaker 1:Just smoke all day every day and they're just smoking so they're not allowed out. So my dad used to go and do like a fair run for them in and off to the shop every day and uh, they were just smoking loads. So I went to Kazakhstan before the box and I was there for a month and cigarettes were like 35p it worked at like 35 pence normally. So I just fucking threw all my training gear out, filled the suitcase up with loads of cigarettes, brought them home. I'd asshole them all to them for like three quid a packet.
Speaker 2:I was going to say did you give him to your man in the shop, the big bearded guy he sold me?
Speaker 1:I gave him the ass to him for a can. Very good, so he was making a fortune. Because they don't care what they're smoking, they just want the cheapest fries they can get, because they're all lunatics fed in West Belfast 100% wee lad's starving ravioli and toast. He was on for a week for what?
Speaker 2:after you come home there for my holiday? I?
Speaker 1:had no money. He was eating ravioli and toast same.
Speaker 2:I was in Dubai last month with my wee boy and it's so dear, it's expensive isn't? It really expensive, it's costly, but it's expensive. I was.
Speaker 2:I was actually packing for it, listening to you, you, you and Diona's podcast yeah, so I was packing and then you was brought up to buy and I was like, oh my god, what's the chances? And you said it and I was like, well, I fucked up, I'm going in the morning, but I think mine is a completely different experience to yours and Diona's, maybe because I went with my son.
Speaker 1:No, I I actually, I really enjoy it, I enjoy it but I trained and I was living in really fucking good, like good accommodation, like class, expensive accommodation. It was class, but I wasn't drinking or fuck all wasn't like I wasn't living it up, wasn't eating what I wanted. I was training and watching what I was eating. All like, but it was. It's a class place.
Speaker 2:Ah, it's beautiful. Aye, it was 42 degrees, so Fucking motion.
Speaker 1:I was sitting on the beach. Aye, I went in July. Last year was. No, it wasn't last July, it was July before. It was like touching 51 one of these, jesus, and it was just. It wasn't enjoyable. No one was outside place was dead place was empty. There was boxing fights on. One of my mates were fighting, so we were training over for a week and, like you, didn't spend no time outdoor. The poor boys were dead. There was no one about Too warm.
Speaker 2:The theme parks that we went to Were all on door as well. Remember I was saying why are you so tame? Because, like everything's Endowed and bye.
Speaker 1:That's what it is.
Speaker 2:That's why the one day that we did Go to the beach, though, it was 42 degrees and my son looks like an Arab, so he went out with the locals and I was like what is that?
Speaker 1:my Botox is melting oh fuck, it was melting. No way melting. They tell you not to go into the sun.
Speaker 2:I know so, like it felt, I don't know where it went it's like the wicked witch.
Speaker 1:I turn around to my wee one he goes ah his face, just old bitch, fuck me.
Speaker 2:It's a whole different way of loving, though out there isn't it, yeah, big time.
Speaker 1:It's like it's full of bloggers, like you'll see loads and loads of girls just standing.
Speaker 2:And it's like.
Speaker 1:There's no like.
Speaker 2:Loving in the moment. They just no, they literally just stand everywhere.
Speaker 1:Like it's just cameras everywhere, girls, and like I sat one day over coffee with my coach and we watched this girl walk up and down towards the camera at least at least 60 times aye so she was taking 60 like attempts at getting this right.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ and I was just sitting in my coffee going many times you think she's going to do it. We were guessing like 4, 5, 6, maybe at least 60 times. We were looking at each other going this is fucking insane. Like she spent a good 30 minutes just doing that same walk over and over. See, that was my bird.
Speaker 2:I'd fuck her in the water there was a couple uh on that beach today. My fist melted off and she fuck me and I still like her, I do. But, um, she was arguing with her boyfriend to get into this. She had the tripod. No, no, the water, her hat. She was pulling out different fucking hats out of her bag and I was like, what a good 45 minutes as well, and he was sitting huffing and being brought on and then hugging and kissing and I was like I hate that life there.
Speaker 1:It's not a real life thing. No.
Speaker 2:I couldn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, the mall Just at the back.
Speaker 2:So we went there as well, but again, tripods everywhere. We're walking onto people's videos and they were getting raging and I was like we're trying to walk. Dancing. Dancing at the fountains, like, look at the fountains, this is what you're here for. Who the fuck cares? Mental.
Speaker 1:No one. Even She'll probably not even remember, because she's just living For the camera. That's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Even my wee boy was saying why is everyone dancing? They're all doing these weird dances and I was like I don't know, it must be some kind of cult Fucking TikTok dancing Some kind of cult that? They're on now.
Speaker 1:But it's just becoming so normal now, like there's no like.
Speaker 2:I can't get used to it.
Speaker 1:Do you know, like, if I was Like here, will you take a photo of me?
Speaker 2:Of yourself.
Speaker 1:Oh, like here, take a photo of me, say it was like me and Say me and my missus. We wanted to get a photo, but it was just me and her and everyone else take it. I wouldn't even ask to buy a positive ticket. No, fuck that, I'd just like. Just leave it. She's like. No, I got a photo.
Speaker 2:See, women are different. We're like all about the memories. Like'll look back and be like I love this and I'll be like but I remember my head, I know but when you die, you go to that pod we need the, we need the evidence. It was a prank. Fuck me, open the door. Oh god, that sounds awful now when you say it like that.
Speaker 1:Just bump it going like that. That's the way to do it, but no messing about true but like, if you've remember, there was a big kickback about. It was a guy from London and he had this illness for ages and he was saying I tried CBD, I've tried everything, and he couldn't get rid of it and the pain was excruciating and he can't get, he can't do nothing to help it and he fucking shot himself on camera Jesus going around me something.
Speaker 1:He gives a full big like about why he wants to go. He's like I don't want to die, I can't live like this no more. I've tried absolutely everything. And he goes through a full list of everything. He's tried medication and nothing's helping him. He says so fuck it, I'm just going to go, there's no way to live. And he shot himself on camera there's nicer ways to do it.
Speaker 1:I know I could have just went and got bored like and it's legal do you know what I mean and I suppose if he explained like that, then it's like he'd rather that than he blew his fucking hair off on camera do you know what I mean so do you know Eimear McGuire, comedian from Strabane?
Speaker 2:oh, yes, yes, yes she was on my podcast podcast a while ago too and we were talking about because she's OCD, we both do so we're able to connect over that, I suppose being mental and, um, I was telling her about being in the psychiatric unit and used to be like, oh, we're going cooking today and come to the cooking class and I'd be like way, I'm fucking not job security so I would say things like that and then the nurses would be like you are one of these people, like, don't talk like that.
Speaker 2:And I was like, but I'm scared, like I was so scared so I was saying to her and she said that she read an article, that and a psychiatric and don't know if this was here, I'm not sure, but the, the actual chef, was sick that day, so they asked one of the patients to come on and help out in the kitchen, you know, to feed the, everyone in the wards and whatever. And everyone died the next because he put slug poison in their dinner, jesus fuck.
Speaker 1:So I was right not to go yeah, how did he even get access to all that shit? I don't know. But that's just. I don't know. That's mad to even allow someone in from a set yet we weren't in the kitchen. I know, that's just the first, that's the, that's the like recipe for disaster excuse the pun recipe and all fucking. You know, pardon my pun Straight in.
Speaker 2:It was a fucking disaster. He killed them all, but sure, 15 free beds. Look at.
Speaker 1:Look at For the next batch. This is a slow game as well, that's what they probably paid that man.
Speaker 2:They killed him.
Speaker 1:They free up beds. These people are annoying me. Now Just get rid of them. We'll bring in new batch people.
Speaker 2:A new batch.
Speaker 1:We're ready for the next We'll get a bit of crack at these ones, and then, whenever we're programming, same again.
Speaker 2:Aye, Are you on? You were on about TikTok. Are you on TikTok? What do you think of it?
Speaker 1:It's alright, for what I use it for? Like, I just use it for a bit of crack. I think it's wild art. Ah well, I suppose, like Instagram was made. When Instagram was first made, it was like people were putting photos up, family photos and all this carry on, aye, and everyone would always like to show their life on it where, like TikTok's the opposite TikTok's just like, no one really shows that side of it. It's not like photos, it's videos, and you can only post so much stuff that before they approve it, or they, because they've told me off about certain things language, oh really like drive when you're.
Speaker 2:You're not allowed to drive on your camera they cancelled you're not allowed to well, how do I see half the videos on my feed then? Because I don't follow anyone, I just post and then try and come back off. But but it hooks you in, doesn't it? Yeah and I'm scrolling and people are live and I'm drawn into their lives, because what the?
Speaker 2:fuck, talk about psychiatric unit. There was this girl one day and she was like come look at my outfit of the day as a patient in a psychiatric unit and I thought, what the fuck? Why are you normalising this? Do you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean there's some fella we always all lads always give. He calls himself the legend, big L the legend, and he's from like Manchester or something. But he's like, he's in the security ward and he does these same videos all the time and he's like, so he has like someone in that ward recording him. And he gets up and he wears all the best of gear. He's a wee fat. He's a wee fat. He's a wee fat. He just steps up, walks up to the camera, puts his hat on, walks back, sits back down and he wears braces and all. And then he walks up, fixes his braces, walks back, sits down is that what he said the other day?
Speaker 1:like just just what he's doing. Like that's just what he does and he must have OCD because in his room and all I'm going to have to look this boy up he wears like when he's going to get his hat and he goes like he does this with his hand.
Speaker 2:You know him so well.
Speaker 1:He flat out has been, so we'd be on his videos and he'd be going like give us a big shout out to birthday, my economy birthday, give us a big shout, shout out the party live from the second we sat in the our group chat and all the lads were laughing. So we always do big.
Speaker 2:Shout out the party, so does he just be.
Speaker 1:Live all day long, so he just be live and he was just walking about with all his things and there was one of my videos. He was walking about the war and all he had behind the doors and all like. It's something video on him, but he has loads of followers, so this is the thing right.
Speaker 2:Whenever I was on in 2013 I don't know if they took my phone off me or there was no wifi. I remember texting, so it was no wifi. Because when you're mentally unwell, who the fuck wants to go on social media and go live? Because you will, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know three meals a day probably. He's no rent to pay and he's probably on top rate daily.
Speaker 2:Aye, so he's making it in. So he's just a vlogger. But he's on a psychiatric unit. Aye, so he's making use of his facilities.
Speaker 1:I suppose he's probably like. He's probably like Shutter Island, where he's pretending that he actually is Aye, and they think they're saying to him like you're a vlogger, you're a vlogger, so you need a video while you're stuff, and that'll keep him sane need he find out someone or whoever's recording that he probably has someone paid? I'd say like I don't know. He has a bird now. There's birdies in the visiting like and he met the bird through tiktok, so she was always like watching stuff.
Speaker 2:Maybe I might go on tiktok then actually yeah, maybe I'll you may touch, luckily. No, I'm done with psychiatric units, Sean. I can't go back.
Speaker 1:Never go back. No, what was the food like? No slow poison you're free.
Speaker 2:Well, my wife don't know about Bobby Sands, don't know if she's still kicking about oh fuck, but like it's, I went to.
Speaker 1:I was telling them. I went to New York and on my way home I got like fuck and they brought me into Jamaica Queens and I was like sitting in the back, I was half cucked hold on, though, see to be put on the straight jacket.
Speaker 2:You need to be really, really fucking off your tits.
Speaker 1:I don't know what, what, what ah?
Speaker 2:you were off your tits at the minute, I was full, I was drunk. I was fucking very drunk. I was singing.
Speaker 1:What happened was the child of the, the. I don't know, I don't know what the fuck it is runway thing yeah.
Speaker 1:So the police were like sit down on the floor now. And I was like I'll sit on the floor, I'll sit over her and I'm a bag. And we're like sit on the floor and he just fucked me on the floor, stuck handcuffs on me, and then the police I mean I'm toxic, I'm not alcohol, I'm not drugs, but I got cut because of my feet. I was just talking to my feet, so I had to cut my eye and there was like stitches in it. So they brought an ambulance in and the ambulance just stuck a straitjacket on me right away. They took the handcuffs off once the straitjacket was on me and then took me to Jamaica Queens. See, when we were in the hospital I was like this is fucking unnecessary, I don't need the rebounds maybe they knew you're a really good boxer and they're like we're not taking fucking chances with this.
Speaker 1:Probably he'll knock us clean out and then I was sitting, so me and my mate came with me and I fell asleep and then I woke up and I can remember just waking up odd ward, everyone was just on it and it was like this black file with, like the hospital robes on and he's just sitting like that with his legs up with this big, massive ball bag. And I just went, what the fuck? I just looked at my mate and I get me out of here, the fuck. I I'm discharging myself. Was he naked? Oh, he's sitting on the ground. He was just sitting on the room like I had a wee earlobe, a big, massive fucking ball. I was like I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my.
Speaker 2:I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my, I looked at my.
Speaker 1:I looked at my. I looked at I was like are you going? They were like if you go, it's at your own risk. I was like at your own risk of what?
Speaker 2:You just fucking fucked me off the plane.
Speaker 1:I didn't volunteer to be here, no, I just discharged myself from the lift.
Speaker 2:I don't think anyone on a straight check volunteers to go anywhere. They're kind of just dragged oh fuck me.
Speaker 1:I was like fuck him. That was the end of it, that done. I was just sitting there for hours and then, obviously, I woke up and I was just seeing that and I was like, marty, get me out of here.
Speaker 2:No, let's go. The ball bag, done it for you.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck me, I thought it was a speed bag Like I. I mean, fuck me, I'm actually not here.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was the end of that, Only there was no points back eh.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck me, they're not here. And then I think I don't even know if I'm barred now from Erlingus, but the next day when we went back they were on the flight, they gave us our tickets and then we put our suitcase in, all three, we went through and then, as we were just about to go through security, all I hear is hey, sir, sir. And I turn around and we're like from the gates saying he's not getting on a flight. He's a real piece of the stuff oh my god fuck shit.
Speaker 2:So never mind, daryl Angus. Are you allowed back on the America?
Speaker 1:I think so because my mate's been. He was with me.
Speaker 2:He's been just there, was he in a straitjacket as well nah, he wasn't in a straitjacket, so that's why you you definitely were doing something really mad it was him.
Speaker 1:I got fucked off a flick and I got the I got. I got the short straw. I ended up fucking on a street jacket because I walked up the thing the ramp first and they were waiting on us, but I was the first one there and then you had a cut and all exactly.
Speaker 2:So you looked the maddest, I looked like one. You looked the maddest why are you cutting?
Speaker 1:and then they done the test on me and they seen it was only alcohol, no drugs and all this kind of thing. So maybe that's probably why they let me discharge when I realised I wasn't on drugs.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean maybe aye, so I loved in New York. If I remember I was saying to you.
Speaker 1:I was saying aye.
Speaker 2:I loved in the Bronx did you enjoy it well?
Speaker 1:no for living there. Aye not living there it's not something I could do like live right or something like that.
Speaker 2:It's like no, I was based out in Staten Island as well, so I was working with NYPD, but it was HR, so it was a police precinct in Staten Island. So two hours to get to work, two hours back and it was just. It was just mental, but it was coming across photos. So this was like 2012 and my wee boy was like why are you wearing that uniform? Are you a cop? And I was like no, aww, fucks sake you be putting it down. I was like no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I said we're Don't hear any bollocks. You put it aside.
Speaker 2:This is the thing. A few weeks later, I drove on the street and his friends, my wee boys, friends, are you a cop, are you a cop? Danon said you're a cop, and I just put it this way. I had a shake under my hair For a good month.
Speaker 1:Fuck me, that's mad, isn't it? And I was like no, squealing over in, it's a class. It's a class to visit aye, but I couldn't live there. No, the way people live. I have lots of friends, you live with her and I love it, but I just I couldn't live like that. It wasn't for me it's not for me New.
Speaker 2:Yorkers are way cheeky yeah do you think they're?
Speaker 1:cheeky bastards, they are cheeky.
Speaker 2:Dubai people. What are Dubai people called?
Speaker 1:Arabian.
Speaker 2:Arabian. They're even worse. Do you think so? Oh, my god, I thought the wild road. They nearly never let me in To start with.
Speaker 1:Why Put me in a straitjacket? I put you in a straitjacket. No, on the way in.
Speaker 2:The way in and they're like Get the hell out of my bastard. No, I say to my wee boy Look, when we go on here Everyone's going to be like Wearing white the sheiks of cheeks yeah and the women. You might see their eyes and whatever, and I was not prepared. I was as shocked as my wee boy. But, um, I showed them my passport and he was looking and he goes that's not you in the passport and I was like who the fuck is it? Then give it the security.
Speaker 1:Botox with your face. That's exactly what I said I was pumped at the girls with.
Speaker 2:I did not know it was me and, to be fair, I was like that there was 2017 and he goes oh, you look younger now. And I go Botox. But like I was doing all these actions and my weeb was like, oh, mommy, let me in then. But on the way back then another girl got stopped, but she was fuck me, bbl nose, ears oh my god, I don't even know who you're fucking going with.
Speaker 1:I know I have much work done with people. It's crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 2:I know. So I'm just glad it was just Botox For me.
Speaker 1:Ah, that's Botox is enough. Anyway, I got it.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 1:I got it. Nah, it's more often than I like, but I did get it like.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Cause my forehead's just fucked. I have scars all over my face, my eyes.
Speaker 2:Did it take your scar away?
Speaker 1:Didn't take it off Is it's a scar? I got it written a heart years ago. I'm fighting with someone, I'm fighting a heart with me right in the forehead, and then I've just cut hair With boxing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, boxing. You're coming back now.
Speaker 1:I'm fighting in six or seven weeks.
Speaker 2:So were you off, couldn't get a fight.
Speaker 1:Couldn't get anyone to fight me for a year. So just had a nightmare of a year.
Speaker 2:Is that the way it works? Is people bail you when I fight him in the bail or not?
Speaker 1:I've just been avoided like a four for world title eliminator in New York. That time I got arrested, but I was controversially fucking done out of fighting big time so the guys went on and fucking beat those good people and then, because I lost, I lost my title, I vacated my title and then I was trying to Fight for that world title and then, because I lost that, I didn't have anything To fight for Right, so I was trying to fight Big names but they were like Nah, what's the point?
Speaker 2:I'd like a banana skin For people. So what is? What is this one that you're fighting?
Speaker 1:So it's just a wee one. I fight, it's just I win again. I get fifth retail.
Speaker 2:That's what I was going to say Get you back on the Ladder again, is it Basically?
Speaker 1:that's all it is, but.
Speaker 2:What age are you?
Speaker 1:32.
Speaker 2:What age is the Well? Conor Coyle's 35, is he? I think he said he's coming to the end now 34, 35 Aye.
Speaker 1:But I'm sweet, I'll be alright. There's still a few years left.
Speaker 2:I could look at Mike Tyson too.
Speaker 1:I know 60 or something.
Speaker 2:I can't even get upstairs.
Speaker 1:I know Same. I was making half of his money. I'd burn my own, fuck's sake.
Speaker 2:He must have needed his Fucking mortgage paid or something If he was taking on that thing.
Speaker 1:He was robbed loads by his promoter years ago, don. King, that's right For millions, millions so like, and then he was a head case Back then as well, so he's probably just Blew money, the band Tigers and everything do you ever see the club of him after a match or a boxing match?
Speaker 2:and they were all Michael, you've been off for a while and he goes. I broke my back and he goes.
Speaker 1:What happened? And he?
Speaker 2:goes spinal. Of course, I always sat there and my mom goes hey, mike, what happened?
Speaker 1:and he says he's on the motorbike accent. He says I broke my back and he goes what do you mean? Like a vertebrae no, spinal fucking brilliant he's a funny guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, he is funny and he's so serious your mom's looking at him in disbelief, going what do you mean?
Speaker 1:you broke your back, he goes. My back is broken, he goes. What do you mean? Like a vertebrae, no spinal. Have you spinal?
Speaker 2:he's so fucking serious. I know it's the love spinal. He's mental and well, kanye West.
Speaker 1:Kanye West is fucking. Did you see?
Speaker 2:him on Piers Morgan last week he's telling Piers about the money.
Speaker 1:He says why are you giving me a vase? How much money are you worth? He goes not as much as you. He says, so why am I taking a vase?
Speaker 2:from. You have 34 million followers and I was like he's not. He's a rat, but someone was with him, like sitting with him. Who was that? I?
Speaker 1:don't know, I didn't even know he needs fucking help. But there was one I seen as well yesterday that he was into like a like there's a make a wish kid. Oh fuck, what did?
Speaker 2:he do and the kid goes.
Speaker 1:He walks in and goes are you nice? And the kid goes, yeah, I'm nice. And he says, the are you nice? And the kid goes, yeah, I'm nice. And he says the kid starts telling him he's a better rapper than Kanye West. Kanye West is like like raising at him no. And the kid starts doing a wee rap for him and Kanye West is just staring at him like with a big, long face on him and he looks right into the like the people who brought him in, and he's like, look, I'm not gonna rat, I'm not gonna say nothing because he's a make-a-wish kid, but like, like I'm not gonna do it. But I'll like, just because it's him, I'll do it. But he's raising at him. What?
Speaker 2:and that, but I do laugh. It has some of his stuff that comes up.
Speaker 1:Some of the wee memes that people make are like they're not just it's comedy gold.
Speaker 2:The comments are even better. Do you ever?
Speaker 1:read some of the comments. Some of them are brilliant. I watched one this morning. It was like see if you just get like, one of them are popular pages. They put a photo up or a meme or anything and then just read the comments that the comments are better than the photo. Was one of the day and it was like um, the rocks little brother called the pebble the rock. He's big, but this guy looks like the rock, but he's a crackhead. He's getting bone as and he looks about 80 and people are saying he's not the rock, he's the pebble. Then people are reading all just the comments were just comedy gold. You could just sit and read them all day.
Speaker 2:It's what's what's the funniest nickname you've ever heard?
Speaker 1:fuck, I don't know. I was actually talking about this this morning as well. It's funny you say that really like I don't know. Like there's one of these these Australian guys are talking about and he says, like his friend one of them has a leg, his leg's bigger than the other, so he walks with like a limp and he's called the sniper's nightmare because his head bobbles a bit. I think that's a fucking classic.
Speaker 2:Like he walks away the sniper's nightmare because his head bobbles, so like he can't you know I remember there was this boy up in dairy and everyone called him mahogany shoulders because he was always at for us, the coffin carrier fuck me that one always stuck out Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:It's so funny in our group chat, all the lads call him the fire stick. Why? Because he's slow.
Speaker 2:He's 10 minutes slower than everyone else oh, my sisters used to call me Perth because I'm 12 hours behind everybody.
Speaker 1:That's a sign that's a good one. That is Perth, and then the O'Connor boy.
Speaker 2:I call him. Do you ever know people? But you don't. But you give him nicknames. There's a boy that lives up the street from me and he's clattered Head to toe In tattoos. Fuck. So he's like A fucking first year Sketchpad. So that's what I Started calling him Sketchpad. Sketchpad Now looks like his name.
Speaker 1:There's a kid we grew up with and he like he might. He ain't nothing to wish like, but we used to fucking. I'll not say his name, but he has like bad like fucking, like dandruff.
Speaker 2:Oh right.
Speaker 1:And we used to call him Scratch Card. He doesn't know we call him Scratch Card, but I used to go there's a wee Scratch Card, cause when you scratch it's like it was just flakes of hair everywhere, flakes of fucking skin everywhere. He doesn't know that, but he's the calm scratch card there's no scratch card. Anyone's ever said it to him? I just go fuck me.
Speaker 2:He probably is scratching away pick us a winner then you think then, did anyone ever call us in a game without knowing?
Speaker 1:I'm sure they did. I don't give a fuck if they did or not. Like I have like three older brothers and we tortured each other like we tortured each other going up.
Speaker 2:So we're all thick skinned. Anyway, I don't like do you all fight and bit the head of each other, or not? I have no brothers, that's why I'm asking do you beat each other?
Speaker 1:no, there you go then. No, nah, we do like a couple of brothers have fought like have like like serious fights, yeah, or like see my three older brothers, there's only a year between them all and then a big gap there's a five year gap to me and then my younger sister. You were a wee mistake, then I'm a mistake. I'm the favourite that's what I was going to say younger sister. She's three years younger than me, so there's five oh, you do have a sister, then aye aye, one wee sister, and then the rest are all boys, see.
Speaker 2:I have no brothers, but all sisters. And then we all have boys and we're all. What do we do with these things like? What do we do, like I still don't know, when my wee boy's nine? Oh, you have a wee boy as well, don't you? Four he?
Speaker 1:I couldn't fucking deny it. I messaged you.
Speaker 2:I was like I've never seen a child look so much like their parent.
Speaker 1:Loads of people say that to me like. But when I was like, when I was younger, I had a pure wee weight, fucking wee weight barnyard on me, saxium like curly blonde hair, same as him, saxium, wee tic-tac teeth and all Aye up. They look like me like.
Speaker 2:But uh, no, no straight jacket please 100%.
Speaker 1:No, fuck the way he's going now. He'll be putting a straight jacket very soon my wee boys are mental, aren't they?
Speaker 2:my wee boy demands me as well, but I look nothing like him. So we do get uh separated at security when we go traveling and stuff.
Speaker 1:You look more like my son than I do look like my son if I didn't physically birth to this child I would be looking for an a and a to say it's like they're seeing memes of the fucking. There's like two white couples and a black baby, like what the fuck happened here do you know what there was?
Speaker 2:I told the story before. There was a syrian couple right next to me in the labor ward so I had a section. So they handed, they left the baby up. When you see him and he was cute and whatever, and then you're in the room then for an hour, just you, the baby's with his daddy, and they're showing you up then for an hour. And then I came up to the room and this baby was on the thing with jet, black hair and really swarthy, and I was like I don't, is this mine and the syrian couple have blonde haired baby fuck me, maybe it was swapped I can't change him now.
Speaker 2:I've done such a good job, raising him and all.
Speaker 1:Send him back the fuck.
Speaker 2:Some days I fucking feel like it. Fuck me, he's like his daddy, but no, nothing like me. It's a son.
Speaker 1:No plans anymore.
Speaker 2:Well, unless I get the turkey best right, I don't have a partner. No, but no, I'm too old, I'm 37. Never too old. 37, never too old. Never too old my back.
Speaker 1:Your back, you're not having a large tail.
Speaker 2:Basically, in other words, no, look at the many excuses, I know folksy.
Speaker 1:Alright, get the head.
Speaker 2:You're not having a large, I'm afraid to say no, in case I have a one night stand. No, I'm just going. No, no plans. No, they kind of steal all your money, don't we? We money drainers?
Speaker 1:I don't know, and that's all you become. I just feel like a tax driver and I and I thought I just reached that home day. I'm always on the goal, but if I'm written about it, I just bring him with me all right.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good, though, that you can incorporate him see if I'm going for a paint.
Speaker 1:He's coming with me like no doubt ah, really, everyone knows 100 if I want to go for a pint, he's come with me. I'll just go to a bar and serve food. If I want to go for a pint, he's come with me. I'll just go to a bar and serve food. I'll just give him food and I'll drink a pint.
Speaker 2:I make my wee boy work for me. Is that child labor?
Speaker 1:No that's child labor. Do you pay?
Speaker 2:him, since he's three.
Speaker 1:I suppose you do pay him Because he fucking I do. Yeah, do you get a ring?
Speaker 2:I pay him, but it's my money. It's minimum wage, you pay steps and all that fun he's like a wiener machine factory the faster he works he's written me notes and put them in your fucking perfume sets and saying help me help me. I'm actually Syrian and she stole me from Syria. I want my real parents.
Speaker 1:I'm being slave. Please come and help me.
Speaker 2:My address is fucking I'll just go to the Liberward tomorrow and pluck an arrow way out and then rear them and work for me as well.
Speaker 1:You know him upon the fall factory kids. Aye, no, fuck's sake aye. No, he's been working for me since he was three, that's good on a Friday aye get him ready for when the fucking, for when the the big bad world, when he leaves.
Speaker 2:Aye, I always say to him he's taking over the. On it like so kids like to help but he, it was a novelty to start with, but now he's like I'm not doing this. Like you have staff and I go.
Speaker 1:Like you are my staff, get working you're on the payroll, so he's on the payroll. Get the fuck or else pay 60 pound.
Speaker 2:Keep a week 100%, get the housekeep and the fuck.
Speaker 1:I've never paid housekeep, ever, that's how.
Speaker 2:I'm the favourite aye, I didn't, I had other siblings all penthouse keep.
Speaker 1:I've never penthouse keep, ever.
Speaker 2:I think that's how you know you. You are the favourite I know, but you have to pay back now eh you know what I mean. You have to like, do nice things, buy them things and all.
Speaker 1:I do. But on their birthdays, christmas shit, they get good big house of get the MR. That's a, that's a good present to get people, you know like girls like cause for a man it's hard to get women it's hard. Like clothes or jewelry, like it's just the same. All shit, like shit all the time. Like every time Christmas comes around I go and like voucher or something, vouchers or fucking.
Speaker 2:You'd be surprised how many men actually come to the shop, a shop for themselves, who live on their own, who just like burning wax, melts and candles and having their house and carnal smell. Nice and August, my uncle has a shop as well.
Speaker 1:He does like everything, all that carry-on type of stuff and he sent us a big, massive hamper. All like stuff like that smell like for around the house soaps and all it's fucking class like who doesn't love scents? I know like it can't go wrong. It's fucking great.
Speaker 2:I know so your wife will be well pleased with that.
Speaker 1:She'll be loving it. Fucking right, our house will be smelling fucking spectacular. So thank you, I appreciate it. Can you bother?
Speaker 2:Here. I meant to ask you as well what is the crack with the podcast, like what is your goal or what is the I have no goal.
Speaker 1:Like someone asked me yesterday, like not yesterday, they've asked me podcast. We do a live podcast, something I probably would do. Like I don't like the same as yourself. Like I have a sponsor the praise guy sponsors it around the killing studios they're sponsoring the podcast. But like I don't make any money no profit, I don't profit from the podcast, I just enjoy doing it I enjoy meeting new people and, like my main goal at the minute is just boxing and this is just on the side to keep me fucking level headed.
Speaker 2:And not getting into a straight jacket again.
Speaker 1:Exactly Keep me level headed, but I fancy I would like to, just I would like to just scale up, like even Ryan was saying about, like other people have been saying about doing like a Patreon Doing a Patreon episode and all People have to subscribe and you can make more money of it. It's not really what I want to do right now you know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, but like you can do bonus episodes and there's so much different stuff you can add to the Patreon where people pay for it and you can make money of it like I've got a fucking. If I do that, then I'm going to have to start really prioritising this podcast.
Speaker 1:That's what I was going to say, I have a gym in Belfast. It takes up a lot of time. I've got a boxing as well, full time, and then I've got this podcast Plus. I take a football team as well, so I'm flat out. My wife works two jobs she's a TV producer and a singer, so she's flat out. We're like passing ships, where if I start Going down the road of like the patreon and yeah, like really I'll have to spend more time doing this ryan will be sick of looking at me.
Speaker 1:He'll be fucking following me wherever I wear a camera to do shit. You know what? I mean for the patreon though. So maybe, when I retire from boxing, I would like to maybe go down the road of of doing a lot of a lot of yes like, did you go? Down the road of doing a lot of this.
Speaker 2:Did you completely underestimate the amount of work that goes into a podcast? Or is it a wee bit easier for you because you freestyle?
Speaker 1:It's easy.
Speaker 2:It's easy.
Speaker 1:It's sort of what I expected to be honest. I didn't expect it to be easy, but I didn't. It's a bit tricky whenever guests let you down. And you're like fuck, I need to get someone in quick.
Speaker 2:There's been a few times where I've been let down and, like last minute, people have pulled me out of a hole, which has been good, and, rand being one of them, he's pulled me out of a hole once oh, were you a guest because, I try and get people going like I try and keep it consistent yeah I mean I want to keep it consistent every single week coming out.
Speaker 1:So it's hard. And I see belfast. It's such a small place where everyone has the same guests yes, and I always try and think you'd say the box a little bit. Do you know what I mean? So it's so that they're not. People are just gonna go in and watch that. I've seen that you know it's trying to get a fucking, a good balance of like yeah getting new people on, but a face that maybe people know. Do you know?
Speaker 2:what I mean as well um, so it's, it's I completely my podcast a bit different, so obviously I need to know the guests and because you're talking about sensitive stuff, like you can't just be laughing and stuff, so you have to know what you're on about.
Speaker 2:But sometimes we can depend on the guests. We can get a bit of our humor in there. But, um, there was this fella called sean lynch I don't know if you've ever heard of him and he was, uh, and I met mcgabry and he has a psychotic episode on there and pulled his own eyeballs out. So he's blind.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've seen him.
Speaker 2:I've seen him on your podcast so things like that really fucking drained me for weeks after, like mentally. I was like because I had to spend some time with this fella first to make sure that he was mentally well and get the okay from his family.
Speaker 2:Because, like, he went off the radar after that but everyone wanted to always hear his story. So I was like, took me six months to get in contact with him, couldn't find him. So that's the kind of people that I would. People they all get such and such. They have x amount of followers now but, like the people with the stories, don't even have social media. That's the people.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it right like the following here like there's. Obviously it's good to get a someone with a like, a following, because you can you make it more eyes on it. But realistically, if it's not someone like like for you, if it's not someone you're trying to help or you want to understand or like, do you mean it's, it's not beneficial to you or your podcast, what you're trying to achieve out of it because, like you say, you're trying to help people.
Speaker 1:You want people to open up. You want people to be free to open up and be like because, obviously, when you open up to people, you just feel lighter, you just feel more fucking relieved. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 2:And then I think sometimes, when people come to share this much, I feel so comfortable with you and I think it's because I shared so much so whenever you're on that level with someone, you can open up more to them, like who the hell likes to be all. I went through a divorce, I lost my business, I tried to take my own life and then it broke me back. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:it's not it's not something that you only talk this was literally in the space.
Speaker 2:All this happened, so no wonder why my fucking spine fell off.
Speaker 1:My body was just done.
Speaker 2:Pure stress off. It's not something that you're happy about or it's positive, but it's trying to show people that I might look grand and great now, but those years weren't so good.
Speaker 1:It's enough signs you're in a direction, isn't it? All this stuff happened to you and then you got divorced. You lost your business, you put your back, you fucking. I know you almost put the straight jacket going to your back almost no, I never bet that level but you fucking like. It's actually like a more positive life.
Speaker 2:When you come out the back end of it, it's like look at me now and I will say that that, although 2022 was the worst year of my life, it was also the best, because I feel like all that has changed to make me the person who I am and I was saying like 2022.
Speaker 2:Before all that, I wouldn't even have went to the shop on my own, because I was so down and depressed and hit it myself, hit it my life, hit it my marriage, hit it everything. And then it feels like all that had to happen for me to go.
Speaker 1:Life is amazing do you know what I mean? Well, it's not perfect. Don't be encouraging that, don't be. People are going to break their backs now, just to definitely get a divorce though play the long game. Fuck, that'll give us four years and we'll be brand new. She said it's, it's all great.
Speaker 2:I'll always recommend a divorce, but don't recommend breaking your back. Don't break her back because that's just a. I feel like that had to happen, like I would never have done anything. I would even have my own podcast yeah that's what I mean, like I'm surprised myself no, that's good like it's fucking.
Speaker 1:What a journey you've been on. You've made the back end of it and this is your first podcast and I've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it and uh so have I I would say what'll happen. We'll probably reach out to you and try and get you on their podcast. I will, because that happens to that too, aye that would be good too. I've had someone, I've had a few first timers on and they're like fuck me. I was actually alright aye and then from then I've spoken to them and they're like fucking aye my phone's fucking non-stop.
Speaker 1:Now people ask me to go on their so that happened.
Speaker 2:I think I'm the only podcast in Derry, you know.
Speaker 1:Aye, fuck me.
Speaker 2:I think so. It's mostly all Belfast based.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of them, aye, but haven't turned around. Now the clogs are turning. He's like get me up to fucking Derry.
Speaker 1:Get me up to Derry Fucking. Get them down here.
Speaker 2:Aye, get them all down quick.
Speaker 1:I think I am the only much here like and it's happening. It's happening within the last I've been thinking about doing this for about fucking two years now. I just didn't really like, I didn't know, I didn't really know I wanted to commit to it and then ryan just suggested to me and I came off that way. But within that, within that time frame, I would say fucking, like.
Speaker 1:Five or six others have just popped up today and then even off the back of me doing it. A lot of people have reached out to Ryan saying an idea podcast yeah like he's just. It's not a consistent thing, but people are coming and doing them but that's what happened to me.
Speaker 2:So I would always like research the guest for months and months, then work with him and then do from fucking belfast at ringing, bill gonna come down there. Yeah, I have to read it, all the hard work. So that that's what I mean about fact. But the guest, the guests that I have to be like, their story's so traumatic that they can only say it once yeah, I have a, I have a.
Speaker 1:I have a few recommendations for you. Hey, just a couple. Like, like my friend martin come up here, he lost his son, that his son got knocked down when he was 13. Oh, my god and uh, he's done a podcast before. He don't think he don't that's go away and burn one mm-hmm and I think they got a lot of usual not. But like he's very positive now and he doesn't like it's just him is or somebody he was like.
Speaker 1:He had a fucking traumatic like when I when I happened I was actually in dubai his son and he's a family friend, I grew up with his whole life and know his son as well and then I got a phone call on like the 3rd of january saying fucking me own hamill was knocked down and he's dead. I was like what. So I phoned up ronald but he he, he would openly speak about that. Now, like he does, we walk. He walks every morning. He talks, we live the better lifestyle.
Speaker 1:I've raised him in a dark place for a good fucking load of years and now he's come out the back end of it and he just openly speaks about it on camera. So he would be a good guest for his class and he's funny. I had him up here and I says why don't you come on this Sunday? And he says I want to lose a wee bit of weight because he was eating like fuck. And I says you're eating all your feelings away, you cunt. But I says he'll come on here because there's another side of him that I know and I've worked with him and he's funny and he's fucking. He's some stories, he's a fucking racket. So I'll get him on for a.
Speaker 1:It's fucking it's a good story. It has like some stories.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that's why, like I, like you, once a week they put one out, but because they're so emotionally and then I have my own job and then I'm a mommy and he's football and, like some of them, I literally need to take some time after and think what the actual fuck just happened, like the last one we'd on the house, and so when he goes same he's like I'm drained he's like I cannot believe that that's someone's life emotional drain and I fucking madness I keep my I keep my anger a bit of crack.
Speaker 1:I don't need that shit.
Speaker 2:That's why I need to come on here and fucking lose the plot, because that's what I mean. It can be so draining and a lot of work as well well, look, appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1:I'd like to get back up and roll because I know thank you. I know it's a sunny day out here 20 degrees. I know I'm just sweating sitting in here all day fucking roasting in here we should have done it outside we should have done it outside fucking, but then we would have had all the cars beating no, no, I don.