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The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #036 “Raspberry Ripples” with Stevie Haughey & John Bittles
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Influencer Stevie Haughey & Famous Bar owner, John Bittles, to the podcast.
We cover John Baring People, Sketchy Customers, Raspberry Ripples, Being beside the Courthouse, John’s Sons, Boxing, Coke and Baby Guinness and much more.
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The Public Nuisance. Sean McCullough, welcome to this episode of the Public Nuisance podcast brought to you by Kill Studios. Not today, but with us. Today we're in Bitlis Bar, the iconic venue itself. Here we are Best painting road as well, john.
Speaker 2:That's it sure, that's it Slanted.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're slanted. Slanted, that's it.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm not on you.
Speaker 2:I'll, sir. I sort of give the drink a miss, sir. No drink, sean, no drink in 40 years when I was on the drink fuck, I was hard work. I was more often than Musgrave Street Out directing a big lad showing off, getting herself into trouble, getting lifted and, to be honest with you, I thought you were on the drink the whole time I thought you were on the drink.
Speaker 2:You were on the drink and he smiled and then one time I went up where the judge said to me Mr Pettles, I noticed these offences. They're getting more serious all the time and if I see you in front of me again, we'll have no other choice but to give you, I didn't check a chance I've had no drink. No drink since yep. So you talk about all these people that have to go to the AA.
Speaker 1:You know like first planning for doing it, but that was enough for you, that was enough for me.
Speaker 2:I said I'm fucking out of here. Let's see me.
Speaker 1:I know, imagine going to jail. That'd be one of my biggest fears.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't know there's she, like you'd be.
Speaker 1:I have no clue what the people in jail are anyway to look after me.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing we get all the fucking randomers that die in here Out of the court, out of the barracks Like a guy a few weeks ago. Get out of the barracks 5 o'clock in the morning, put all the windies in, out there and the cops left at 5 o'clock Like what's your problem with that?
Speaker 3:I don't want to hear what he says it must be trouble for you because you're like one of the closest bars. The fuck here's me.
Speaker 2:That's the fucking second time he's popped my windies in. But I'm with the damn old coke drinkers coming down, the damn old half pint drinkers, and pop the windies in.
Speaker 1:I know that's it. You'll need to get them caged, john. Get all of them caged up. Get them caged, keep them out the fuck you've got to do like you have a good wee variety of like punters will come in. Usually when I come in like you've always got to do with people who sit there on wee seats, it's good, like we come in.
Speaker 2:They're all on the spectrum, sean, and they come from everywhere see the big lad that sits beside you. He's on the fucking spectrum. It's not going to end well for him. See, see them gyms in West Belfort. He would need to grow every one of them. He's sitting there 30 stone. Did you see son? Did you have a look at him?
Speaker 2:30 stone and a 25 pound hernia. He's going to fucking drop like a Swedish. That's mad. That's mad. And here the guy thinks to himself he sleeps in the attic on the top of the house. How the fuck am I going to get him out? If he and the hernia is just getting fucking bigger and bigger and he you see him drinking or something he gets the pints he gets the pints ten at a time.
Speaker 2:He comes in and he says I'll pay for ten pints, and he just shouts down two, gives another two, fuck me something going like something fucking. I need a load of punters to get there.
Speaker 1:There's only eight out there, you know where we are, but it's calling.
Speaker 2:I'll end up like that soon.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, get Tim up to one of them gyms, aww but here, fucking, you's done the, you's got the award, the low budget content award, over in London. London yeah, here you's were, dressed well, seen a wee furry and shit.
Speaker 3:Oh, I had that set there.
Speaker 1:I had that set, you were Round the TK Maxx Round.
Speaker 2:The TK Maxx Fucking through the reels.
Speaker 1:What was it like over running in those fucking P3 parties? It was a long journey.
Speaker 3:So like everyone probably thinks I'm John's like promoter, like I'm like John's Eddie Hearn or something, but like I just went round one day done a video with John and my whole game with my pages. If content does well, people like it do more. So I just went round the microphone, he went and done a rant went viral. I was like we'll do another one went viral. So John's sort of keeping me in business and then it's promoting him, but John's never paid me for anything. And then we ended up chatting about doing the Christmasmas ad.
Speaker 3:We've done a really low budget ad. We shot it monday. It was no acting really done. There you were just no. We were trying to get john to the script and then you're like a fire from cold tracker, yo man you. And then we were like john stick, you have like one line, just stick to it. But we got there in the end and and then we entered it into a few awards, got nominated for low budget campaign and and like another video camp, two awards in london and the con content and pr awards. And um went over to london, spent a lot of money getting everyone over and uncle am he's 88, hadn't been to london since 1958.
Speaker 3:and it was not a pressure because I'd won over the awards nice before and lost, and then this was the third one, so third time, lucky.
Speaker 2:And then we were sitting there see the times you were there before, steve. You hadn't got the right team with you.
Speaker 1:You need a team around you, you need the right team you need a shit team around you.
Speaker 3:It was a brilliant day, but I just felt we're going to win this. We can't lose One of the videos. We were in two campaigns. One of them I thought we wouldn't have won it, and then that award got announced first and we didn't win that. And then it was coming up to the next award and all the pressure was on me you were starting to feel like Rory McIlroy.
Speaker 3:I just can't win this and I was like down and all. Did you ever see whenever they announced Biddle's Bar Christmas? We were all buzzing, went up on the stage. But yeah, winning a first award in business was amazing. And on the bigger things can't mention too much no, it's good.
Speaker 1:The snowball is starting to roll. You know what I mean. That's it.
Speaker 3:We're in talks we can't mention any names, but there's a well-known bar in New York. We're talking to you about doing a crossover Christmas ad. Oh, brilliant, john Biddle's lost in New York. Oh shit, captain McAllister, that's it so I so hopefully that comes to fruition.
Speaker 1:I've seen it. It was in that Dead Rabbit, new York. See their Guinness is good, but see their Irish coffees. The Irish coffee with whisky on it unbelievable fucking unreal.
Speaker 2:Especially in the winter, it's cold.
Speaker 1:Hundreds and hundreds every day but it's packed out 24-7, no matter, because it's like it's time to say, like um, wall out 24 7, like no matter, because it's like it's time to say like um wall street.
Speaker 2:I say wall street like flat out all day like it's one of the most iconic pubs in the world. I know 100.
Speaker 1:I walked in. Here's your first photo I've seen on the wall. Pally barnes me get that off, get that off. I'm aware of saying by pally, but it's one of the most. I must have thousands and thousands of fucking people every week coming in and out of it. But see here, john, you're starting to grow like that now, where it's like every time on the weekend I'm out there, there's just people from Scotland. They're all here. So I ended up this episode. But I've got to tell you about my sponsor, that Praise Guy doing millions of pounds and prizes every month, big little money to be won. Get yourself on their page, check out the link, get yourself into the draw and then you can't win it's a good old mix of people and they come from everywhere and they're all coming for the Guinness.
Speaker 2:But here's, sean, you've got to put the work in. I'm here 35 years. There's a bit of work in it, but, touch wood, it sort of always worked all right. It's a different level, but over the years it's always worked, but as the years have, gone on.
Speaker 2:I've just got worse. I've lost a run of myself. You're just fucking putting people out. A girl came in yesterday. She started and they started my new business. And a girl came in yesterday and she had like a see through top one like a, you know, like a fish or net type thing, but I could see she had a rangers top one. I said love you fucking can't get served with rangers. But it had to have been a Celtic top, it wouldn't have it's all mixed, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:I said love you can see fucking through, see if it all works. Here's me and myself.
Speaker 1:Part of the road. It's fucking worse.
Speaker 2:Are you alright? You're fucking having a bad day, or something.
Speaker 1:She just wanted a Guinness.
Speaker 2:She just wanted a Guinness but fucking knocked back. You can't come in.
Speaker 1:One minute. She said her ears top off.
Speaker 2:Next minute she said her fucking raspberry ripples showing. I the for one to come up and sit beside him.
Speaker 1:He had to just so as you know, he had somebody sit beside him he had to buy all the drink.
Speaker 2:Have this fucking bird sit beside him. Alright, they're always half days. I'm not going to cave each and all out the fucking food.
Speaker 1:What the fuck different one every week. People on his concert Saturday. He must be able to do a pair of them every day.
Speaker 2:Every day is different. There's a guy on a Saturday and I can't fucking work out. Are these guys for real? Are they taking a fucking picture of me? And he goes yes, sir, please. I said fella, are you fucking serious here? Are you fucking trying to make it fucking easier to me here, or something? So if he's too, polite.
Speaker 3:You're like there must be something going on here. It's sort of twigging.
Speaker 2:Here's me. Is he fucking at his work here? I said, fella, no, you can fuck off. He was just yes, please, thank you, yes, sir. And here's your woman at the counter. She said I would marry him. Well, I said, if you don't marry him, you can fucking go alone with me. I couldn't figure out. Is this guy for fucking?
Speaker 3:real here. Too polite, too polite, too polite, too polite. He was fucking too polite.
Speaker 2:He showed it. He unnerved me. I was a bit on satellite, thinking he's taking a fucking piss. There's nobody as polite as that. Nobody can be that civil.
Speaker 1:civil to you as far as they've ever been in Belfast. Fuck's sake, Out the door.
Speaker 2:Belfast.
Speaker 2:People in Belfast they're fucking headers at Sean's Bar in Asplund heard all the talk about it. I said this guy one time he would take a wee drive down to Asplund see what this Sean's Bar like. So we go in there and I fucking swear never in the bar in my life didn't know anybody. A guy come up beside me. I thought maybe he fucking knew who I was. I said, hey, lad, there's a coke thing. So he comes up beside me. He two coke and a packet of crisps. I looked at him and said are you fucking having a laugh? Are you serious? Are you fucking serious? He couldn't get it. He hadn't a fucking ball day. What I was talking about. I said I'll tell you what. You're not stumbling beside me. You can fuck off.
Speaker 3:You can fuck off away over there you went down to someone else's bar barred him from sitting beside you drinking water.
Speaker 2:He must have thought that's a fucking hitter. I'm saying fuck all here Away. He went away After I said you can't stand beside me, you can fuck off, sit away over there. I took a photo of the old lad, him and his missus. He's going to the fucking public I don't understand that.
Speaker 1:Why do people go out and I understand the a Coke why would you want to? Why would you go out and want to order a Coke and just sit like? I understand some people don't drink, but like, if you're in company of a load of people, yes alright, you can maybe get a glass of water or something and sit there because you don't drink, but why would you want to?
Speaker 2:go out. People coming in Sean, like fucking grown men all coming in. I just said go sit in Starbucks. You can't fucking sit in here. How do you go? But like I get it where people like two or three guys and one of them isn't drinking. I want to be drinking, but not like just walking in the street, I just walk in round them walk in or they're parked on your own. Walking in out of fucking Musgrave Street, walk into the barracks, especially women who've been to the sexes. I love to hear the story.
Speaker 1:I love to hear the backstory.
Speaker 2:What happened to you? How did you get in there Along with you? Like it's a fucking, I give a wee bit of an entire and sometimes I've no money. I just set them up in a pint. But a wee girl and she was in a lot of weeks ago and her sitting drinking and she just tells this as if it's about that cup of coffee. And they're sitting drinking and there's one tin of harp left and he's looking at it and I'm looking at it. I just got a knife. She says I just stabbed him and I just she's a fucking half-naked woman. She's fucking saying like I'm not too worried, but I know he not pressed the the same.
Speaker 2:Fuck me, what are you?
Speaker 3:thinking Did you let her continue on drinking? Oh no, I said, that's alright.
Speaker 2:I said that's a good story. You get a free pint there. I like that story. If it's not a good story you just said I'm going to do it Out.
Speaker 1:You go, cut that out the fuck.
Speaker 2:A couple pulled up where she was a fucking blonde thing, she was a bit of a stunner and he was like a heavy guy, brave and rough looking, and they were heading to Musgrove Street and he was carrying the big bag for MacGabrie. Aww, I don't think he's fucking, he's going away.
Speaker 1:He must be a fucking bad bastard.
Speaker 2:He must be a bit of a fucking herder. Five minutes later he comes out and gets into the car. It was her.
Speaker 1:It was her going to the bag for her. She was away for tea. Jesus, fuck, yeah, I'm sure Like I've put an MBotox myself out on the late night sales. It's the fucking worst.
Speaker 1:I would rather do a month with my Gabri than be in them sales for 37 hours. I was in them sales for and it's the worst, fucking worst experience ever People shouting and squealing and I'm going, fucking Head caps. I was going. I was going, do you want like a fruit juice? I was going. I was pulling drabs on the drink. The night before they lifted me they made ah, give us a fruit juice. They're going to give me like a juice, like a five, a layer or something. And then, right on something they did. I was like no, fuck, you're not getting out soon. They're like no, there's a big list in front of you. You're not getting out soon. Fuck me, you know what he's.
Speaker 1:I was in the near enough Monday morning, late, late Way, late Sunday afternoon. I thought something did. I know Fucking went off. I was starving and I was being stubborn. I mean nope, nope, nope, don't want none. But I just kept pressing the buzzer. We buzzer all night, the cap, cap. And he's like what's wrong, can I get another cups of tea? And every time I finished a cup of tea, I rang a buzzer and the cup was like you just have one, mate, I want another one. And I just kept doing it all night. I was going, if I keep annoying these cunts, to let me out fucking ballics.
Speaker 2:They must enjoy my cunt and they're going to let me out, but here because the entrance is there now. The entrance used to be around Fieston Elliot because the entrance is there and because that's the main fuck.
Speaker 1:I do see some headers like that, and has she been round there or is she? The first thing you think of is a fucking pint.
Speaker 2:So you're getting it.
Speaker 1:There are people getting out here and the first thing I see is a bit of a spark going over a pint.
Speaker 3:I get in there. When did all the trouble start here, or?
Speaker 2:was there always trouble? No, there was always a bit of trouble when you first came in here or was it just non-stop there was always fucking milk. It's a pub, it's a city centre. You're always going to get, you're always going to get, tethers do you feel like there's a?
Speaker 1:do you feel like like there's a like English or Scottish or who? Who do you think's the most like rowdy when they come? Is there like groups of like? Is there, is there, just see here them English ones are fucking hard work.
Speaker 2:They're hard work. I've got this like it's groups. No way, sean. If we are all out or you're all out, everybody maybe will throw a score in the middle. But you get big groups and they're all paying separate orders and separate. It's too time consuming, like they're coming in a pint of Guinness and they're paying. That fucking takes up all your time.
Speaker 1:I'm just out Ten pints.
Speaker 2:Much as that earns them money. I ain't no fucking pints fatter, I just out.
Speaker 1:English people are fucking tight. They're very tight. They're miserable bastards. They're like they don't work. They're not like us. See, whenever, like, see if I, if I'm with people from England and I buy them a pint, they won't buy one back. Like, but I wasn't expecting them to buy one back. But they can't believe it. They didn't mind if I ate. Last week it was in the hall and I bought a couple of lads a pint. Like from the media like fucking from fucking backwards.
Speaker 2:Luckily enough, we fucking just cart them all outside. There's no room, oh no room out there, they say. But it's bucketing.
Speaker 1:I say well, you fucking stand out there, Get them all out there oh because fucking like it's not until you get married I get married, right. And it's when you open the card and you go fuck the ones from England, they're going. And it's when you open the card and you go fuck although the ones making they're going. There's fuck someone put my mate, I have a mate, and that one says name. He probably tells himself like his family member put 15 pound on his wagon car. He was like what the fuck would you even do that for? Like a tenner and a fatter.
Speaker 1:He was like what the fuck's a boy.
Speaker 3:Must have been his 12th or 15th or something.
Speaker 1:Their English is fine, their English, he told me the next day. He's like man fuck, and I haven't put 15 pounds on my card, what I was like, well, that doesn't even put a score on. No like one note a 10 and a half. Yeah, you pick it all up, fuck. But that's a tip. I always see groups out there and I'm like fuck me, they must be talking for a good weekend, because even when it's fucking dark, I've been here for a city centre and for a small place.
Speaker 2:There's no trouble for all the ones that come.
Speaker 1:There's no doorman on you are the doorman, john. You are the doorman. He does it all.
Speaker 2:We ever had a doorman we used to do it way like 20 odd years ago we used to do it early.
Speaker 3:We used to do it.
Speaker 2:You don't need. It's one of the very few pubs around here and, saying that, they all come and everybody seems to. There's no ballers, no rows.
Speaker 3:Have you ever had someone come at you with a knife or anything, or scary stuff like that?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I was telling him. During one of the interviews, the cops came to me and said look, john, they're coming down here. You're going to have to get yourself a personal protection weapon. I said what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2:They give you a wee note and a wee ladder All the other troubles and at that time it was all mostly nationalists in here Nearly all was and the cops said, look was. And the cops said, look, I'll fucking be afraid of the believer coming down. I thought, fuck, this is great, I'll go in the bridle. There used to be a gun shop around there. But my message at the time she says you're going to shoot the customers, you're going to shoot the fuck but, I, thought this would be fucking gun. Behind the counter. Anybody comes in, gives any trouble.
Speaker 1:I'd pull the rod out, I'd pull it out. Say listen, probably better for you, I'd pull the trouble down like that's how bad it was.
Speaker 2:You probably would have shot a few customers I fucking probably would but a few fucking headers in you I'd shoot them. That's how bad it was doing them little troubles.
Speaker 1:I had to do like. You don't know what you're going to get every day, especially in the city centre, because you don't know who the fuck you're going to get or what you're going to get on any given day. You know what I mean. Any of them fuckers up a road at the time.
Speaker 2:You know you're fucking serving cops. Well, they're facing a fucking barricade. If they're fucking paying me, they're fucking if they want a pint, they get a pint. One of them were like a fucking firebomb the place.
Speaker 1:Fuck me, I was involved in that. He's telling me he's turning on himself he's not born.
Speaker 2:What no, made peace with him. I just he'd been drinking. I don't know what he's going to do next he'd been drinking in that place for a few years before he told me. I said get out.
Speaker 1:He built a rain ship with me for the last couple of years.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry about that firebomb in the place. He says like at the time, like you were serving him with peelers and one of them was sitting, one of them was sitting. There was two guys sitting at the back of each side there were two groups. And then one of the guys said we see him on there. I know him. Who is that? And I told him who it was. He says he fucking tried to shoot me during the troubles. I was up in springfield with bikes. He tried to shoot me and then I said the guy I said did you try to shoot him? Says no.
Speaker 2:He says if I had tried to shoot him, he said he wouldn't have sitting here the day but they end up the sudden had a fucking few drinks, like a few of them old uh x peelers come in and a few of them come in at the time A few like a fucking, some of the stories you hear.
Speaker 1:Like I was up in the local bars up in West Belfast. I was trying to get one set up like this here where a few of the dad's mates were thinking they were having none of it. They were like no, I'm not doing it. My dad's mate, dingus McGee, he was doing life sentences in Port East and I was trying to get him on. He won't do it but I was like fuck, see some of the stories they tell me. See if you had it on, like if you had it on the podcast, fucking brilliant some of the ones come in here from up a road to a fucking stories.
Speaker 2:A day, like I don't know, fran McCann comes in. He's a fucking good guy, but the stories he knows and all that 50 years, it in a way fuck it. It's unbelievable, I know it's crazy, it's fucking.
Speaker 1:It's crazy that they live through it and, like Derval, will go to me. She can't understand it. She only lives down the street from me but she was like her family weren't really involved in anything or weren't a part of my family's in Balmurphy and she's only from McLean Road but in Balmurphy they'd sprang out and all that carry on. They were fucking raided and all uncles and stuff involved and she can't get it and then she would be like fuck me, I'm sitting at a bar all day and father go to her name. They're fucking riddled with fucking trauma. They wouldn't even know that they have trauma, that's just how they are, but that's how they're functioning every day.
Speaker 1:They're just sitting in a bar all day because they're fucked. You know what I mean? They're being shot at, people murdered in front of them. They've probably killed someone. They've killed people and fuck.
Speaker 2:You know some of them won't show on it. I often think some of them won't Killed people back in the day.
Speaker 1:Fuck, like what they I know what do you think about? The deal how do you sleep at night? Sleep at night, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They were all young fellas at the time.
Speaker 1:They thought nothing of it, they just fucking banged you Shot you 100% and like how the fuck they lived through that darling, that must be, that must be heavy like that's just fucking glad.
Speaker 2:Like. You're probably seeing the last dead person's life you took it. He could be crying his eyes out begging for mercy. He could be on his hands and knees pleading for you and you still had to do the work.
Speaker 1:I mean, I wasn't living in them times. My uncle was one of my uncles was 23 when he was murdered and he looked about 100. I have a photo of him and he there's a like a mural of him and ball murphy and he stamped me like a like a big rpg or where he's just stamping something on the walls him and Paddock Mulvaney and I'm looking and I'm going see him. He was 23 when he was murdered. He looks about fucking 50 and he was fucking running the whole hour. He was 23, he was fucking he didn't know what.
Speaker 2:I was. I know 32 and still doing that. I know 23,. We're all running about. We're all fucking haters, aw fuck's sake.
Speaker 1:Thank God the fucking times have changed anyway.
Speaker 3:I think, I always think we're very privileged and like blessed that we didn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100% I mean.
Speaker 3:I mean there's things in the world like different countries in the world, but we're like we're just like very lucky that we were born in this time.
Speaker 1:A hundred percent.
Speaker 3:And us growing up like your generation got harder than us. I know and like everything that your generation went through. You know we've dealt with it well, but like we didn't have to go through all that.
Speaker 1:I know, I think, like your generation, have created a good pathway for us to where, like obviously all the fucking, the troubles was a tough time for you, but I think the growth, like when I go. I was in a wee turn in England, like a couple of weeks ago I went to Doncaster. I was like going back in the time machine. It was like 1980 over, and then I went to Hull, hull. The same. I was like what the fuck Belfast has just must have, just went of one of the best cities in fucking Europe.
Speaker 2:See, in round Belfast there's stuff on week in, week out. There's concerts like Belfast, like in general, out and about all around Belfast, people having wee businesses, wee gyms, everybody.
Speaker 1:Everyone's thriving. Like it's honestly, anyone I speak to over like oh Belfast, like all them English fellas, like Belfast's one of my favourite cities. To go to Belfast's one of my favourite cities. The amount of people saying it we go fuck, it's a shithole. It's not until you go to most damn towns in England and you're like shithole, I know, but so everybody's backing up, everybody's trying to help you.
Speaker 2:There's other stages of the community where people are trying to do well and then there's boys around that are like you need to be paying us, you need to be giving us money and they're fucking screwing wee lads, Like wee lads and wee girls are trying to set up businesses.
Speaker 1:I know and they're fucking screwing them. They're taxing money and all.
Speaker 2:They fucking need to pay us and these wee lads having a chance of running Like see and like I always feel so and I say nobody's going to come round. And 35 years nobody's ever asked me for a wiser. Aw Like of dues, but fuck, like if that had been anywhere else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm missing you but I lost it, but it's your case. Weekend we got 100. They're just fucking extorting. It's just extortion.
Speaker 3:I mean, every city, like belfast city has its problems, but I think us in general, like we, it's a great city, but I a lot of people that live in belfast as well, because I've moved away and I've lived other places, you've you've done a bit of travel and you've seen other places. But when you have that perspective and you can see, you can compare it. See, I find people that have never left Belfast the most miserable they're, like I hate it here. Why?
Speaker 3:don't you leave it and then see somewhere else and then you come back, because anyone who moves abroad like you know a lot of my uncles live in Canada and family in Australia and stuff they come back. They all love it. They're buzzing, yeah, and they've got that like real buzz to be here and they really enjoy their time here. Right, but see, people have never left, I wouldn't believe it, They've never been compared to so you can understand, yeah.
Speaker 3:But you need to have that so you can see how good it is, because when you see us, in the grand scheme of things, we're a good city and there's good people here.
Speaker 1:People say I worked on them buses in the city.
Speaker 2:I'm a Dublin guy.
Speaker 1:I would see all the tourism, everyone, all the old women. They always used to say Belfast is the most friendly city we've been in. They're coming off of cruise ships. We used to go down and bring them off on the cruise ships, put them on the buses Like Belfast. We've been to Berlin, we've been here, we've been there. They're doing the travel on the cruise. Belfast has been the most like. They're the most nicest people.
Speaker 2:I go fuck, but you were in a couple of, I mean we'd come round the Bittles and then we'd change our mind.
Speaker 1:How the fuck.
Speaker 2:Wasn't had a couple of guys for stealing purses or stealing wallets? Wasn't there a few years ago you?
Speaker 1:did that. So that's right. It was a Sunday and the time was like dead, the shops open to 1pm here. So it was like half ten in the morning and I was standing outside City Hall and one of the fucking some wee lark came over. All I heard was some squealing across the street from City Hall and I was looking and there was a couple of guys that were here working the buses too, and I'd seen someone running and the car was like standing.
Speaker 1:I wasn't going to do anything about it because I didn't care. I was like fuck's sake, and it wasn't until I seen the big girl's face. She was like shaking. No one went near to help her and I was like fuck's sake. I was like you, alright. So I walked across the road and I was like you, alright. She wouldn't answer and she was like shaking.
Speaker 1:I guess she was like he stole my purse. He stole my purse and my money and my car. I was like fuck, shaking him. And then I went fuck it. He must have been well away past this. I was like I'll catch him, Fuck it.
Speaker 1:I started boating and I said he said where's he going? I just started boating after him, I'll catch him. And he was way up fucking Royal Avenue. He turned right down on street, down towards on square, and he went running right down and I was watching him and I was like I'm going to catch him and he didn't know I was chasing him so he kept running and then I seen him fucking the out of it. So I run the whole way down.
Speaker 1:He was hiding in the alleyway in the world, the mermaid bars. He was hating the way they got and I went yo. But then I got the alleyway. I think this can't get stabbed me or something, what I mean. So I was like tiptoeing around. I said yo and then he jumped out. He was freaking out. Yeah, I feel the best. And then I went you threw that away, but it was still a wee bit easier posting. I grabbed him against the wall, took all the money out of his pockets. I was like he had like fucking 27 quid out of her purse. That's all she had, but all her cards stuff was still in the purse and her bank.
Speaker 1:Her bank details were on a poly packet or were folded up in a poly packet in the purse so we could have took all her money out of her bank. And when I got there and she told me I was like she couldn't believe it. She was like, thank you so much, thank you so much. The bus that she was meant to get to go to work passed because she couldn't get on, she had no money. And I was like you're going to be late for work. She was like, oh, thank you. So I fucking just says so. That was once, say, about an hour later, some big fella from Holland, from big Dutch lad, big, tall, was not on a cross, same thing. I seen him fucking go. Someone stole his phone, legged it across the street.
Speaker 2:So I went, fuck's sake this place is down my hands right.
Speaker 1:Chase the Reman clipped him and he grabbed the phone. He fell and I just went get the fuck out of here and I let him go like he just legged it on. But I got the phone back for the fella big dutch lad I gave him back back of the thing, say thank you. He was just like he like as if, like he was in a bad mood at me. You know, like he must have been just pissed off with the city or something. But he took the phone. He was like fuck. And I was like you alright mate, no, he's like he just down there.
Speaker 2:And I was like fuck, see, when you what was it last year, a lot of months ago, like a purse or a wallet and like a good old few quid in it and the person just come down and got it and they were talking like fuck all the sale of 20, 30 quid. And the lads in here, they, but sometimes people, they, you know, you do them a bit of a turn. You find your phone, you find your your wallet and stuff and there's no place. Thank you, kiss me or fuck.
Speaker 1:All they're not going to be saying fuck all, I just take it the way to go. Sometimes you go fucks it shut this cap. I should have fucking. I should have said fuck all. I'm like if you find something. I would give someone a couple of crock? I would go here, look, there's fucking you come across, so I know.
Speaker 1:Thanks very much glad to my fucking, my honeymoon. Last year I left my wallet in the back of the taxi. There was no money in it, but all my bank cards and driver's license and all was in it and I taxed him out and he said, yes, we have it. He sent the full of it. It was a good wallet. Dirt was bought me. It was an expensive wallet and I was like just sign it back. He said I hadn't done it over a year ago and I was like I was in Italy. We were in Italy. If I was here, he would just get the things, bring it to Royal Mail, just send it straight to his house.
Speaker 1:I told him I'll cover the cost and I'll send you money.
Speaker 2:And I care what's his problem with the.
Speaker 1:Let's go do it. There's nothing in the cart that's beneficial, nothing in it, nothing in the wallet. Just fucking too lazy to go to a real nail, you get a red shock. Someday you're over the door saying hey boy, where the fuck's my wallet, where the fuck's my wallet Clipping, clipping, the fuck out of it.
Speaker 3:Do you just believe in karma? I feel like if you're nice to people generally and you do good things, they'll all come back. Fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I do Come back to me. Well, I can't fucking see. I do feel like I'm good.
Speaker 1:I'm nice to people and I do nice things for people and I think like, if I like do, if someone asks me to do something, I never charge anyone or do it for free, and they're like, no, I'll pay. And I'm like, I'll do it for free, it doesn't matter to me. And I think, like coaching, wherever it may be, I do it to help people and I have the worst luck in the world. I swear to fuck. Everywhere I go, I have bad luck. So, carmen, go and fuck yourself, because if there's no chance Carmen ever gets gay, carmen, I always end up with a bad end of it and then fuck.
Speaker 2:See what you're saying to me it's a shame. Every year I go up to that Clannard of Viena. I think when I go up there I think my luck will. I'm going for years and not a bit of it's ever changed. It's actually to be honest with you, it's got worse. I'm actually thinking of packing in the V&L. I went there I thought right, this is my last year Did you do a confession.
Speaker 3:We've been to confession.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, you must be joking. You're having a laugh, aren't you? You've got a big long list. No fuck, I've.
Speaker 3:I said that we'd be priests. He's saying the towel. I said go on see if you don't get any more.
Speaker 1:I said that I said we'd be priests.
Speaker 2:I asked you to see if I. I said well, tell you what. This is my last year. If things don't start changing, I'm done here. I end up back. Oh fuck, and see you in your fuck. See us here. I've seen invitations. I'm fucking sick of getting them out and never let them out. My luck hasn't changed. My luck's getting worse. So I'm thinking Adnavina, that's not for me. I packed it in. I packed it in.
Speaker 1:I actually had an argument years ago, like when I was walking around the city. I was saying Christians used to always walk around and turn and like, give their preaching also and start talking to Christians, because you don't get their day in, like a fucking idiot. But I spoke to this Christian and I was arguing with him back and forward and he was like you're not going to heaven unless you fucking repent and all that shit and you have God in your life. And I was like well, listen to me, man, I fucking says a prayer, she's not a Christian, she's Catholic. She wouldn't say she's Christian, she's Catholic.
Speaker 1:I mean, she prays every day, she fucking prays. Therefore, she means she drinks, she sins every single day. I mean, but you're trying to tell me she's not going to have now, because I was like it's not up to me, it's not up to me and me. So how are you out telling me the fucking, if I don't have God in my life, I'm not going to have him? And me, my say she prays every day and she sins, and right before she sins or right after she sins, she dies. She's have him because he's just sinned. So what the fuck are you doing? So we were arguing. This went on for about an hour. My co-workers were like will you fucking come home? He knew he was full of shit. I was talking to my fucking Christian. He's like fuck this.
Speaker 2:Some people take all that too seriously, too serious.
Speaker 1:They're passionate about it.
Speaker 3:If they're out preaching to you. It actually should be a healthy debate, you coming back and then talking about it, and then you know, creating his healthy debate and then challenging him on it.
Speaker 1:You probably want to. Well, fuck up. We'll have to hang on to the drink here. Fuck this. You probably want to follow.
Speaker 3:Ted up with someone that he's starts questioning you know the bishop on like all these, like things, do you really believe this or not?
Speaker 1:and then the bishop like loses the plot yeah, father Ted is a great show, isn't it? The fucking. They don't make him like that, no more. But they only made one season and I only found out it recently. I've never actually sat and watched it, no like there's three there's like six episodes in each season and then Father Ted dies at the end. Well, I think it was. I think it was. I was just reading it for you. I did don't put, I was just dying.
Speaker 3:But he the guy who acts. Father Ted had a heart attack just suddenly.
Speaker 1:There probably would have been more, more if he was around. Fuck, there's a space for you in the new acting industry.
Speaker 2:I'd shut down but do a bit of a father-tear now.
Speaker 3:Might as well tell Father-tear he doesn't hear it.
Speaker 1:Throw a bar for my church. You should do a wee season, a wee episode, a wee mini-season of I would love to set up a hidden camera, but obviously it's against privacy, maybe of certain people, but I'm sure, like some punters would accept it if they didn't know, if you showed them it, and be like this is a reaction, though, like everyone's reaction when they come in for like a Coke Out the fuck, or like Edna out the fuck.
Speaker 3:One of my best mates, brandy Malm. Big shout out to Brandy, he. He's buzzing to get home because he watches all the Biddles videos and he was like I'm going to go in without a hidden camera at Christmas and go and order a Coke and just see John's reaction. Just beware, well, you probably get that every day. You don't know who it is, but there's going to be a hidden camera someday, john.
Speaker 2:You sort of twiggo, I just run with it. Because you sort of get it now that there's always going to be a hidden camera, because when people come in and you're asking for a coke right away you know that you're getting set up here like some of them. So you just you just run with it. And if they want me to tell them to fuck off, to get out, to be a lie, I just run with it saying what you can do.
Speaker 1:You can. It's against the rules, but like to go and do it more, so for like reaction. You know what I like about John Israele.
Speaker 3:He's like unshameful, like he actually likes the notoriety of you know people hating him. He loves the hate.
Speaker 1:He's like bring it on.
Speaker 3:Welcome the hate I said that, like everyone's slobbering the comments, he's the rudest man in.
Speaker 2:Belfast and all but here, fucking respond to him. I don't even read them. See all that bullshit you read. See all that stuff you send to people you can fuck off, get out the door, no coke, and all these people. I've never seen somebody come down and said you're right, you're a lousy, you shouldn't be, they're all cardly fuckers. I've never seen anybody ever come down and said to me right, we'll see today.
Speaker 1:No, we won't see we'll see this goes down say it's Tuesday, we'll see. When people come on the other Tuesday, we all turn our car off.
Speaker 2:I'm a fucking agent all out the door.
Speaker 1:You may need to get the old man on. Now we're going, that's great, I'll fucking fix him, but see if you talk have you read all that stuff, sean?
Speaker 2:you know all that. I don't read none of it. See all those comments and all that. There's stuff people put. I've never read none of it. It's all fucking bullshit. And if you start to read all that there, I put your own head away. I would get to you I'd never read it, I'd never respond it.
Speaker 3:Fuck all have you never felt bad about Barnstone. Maybe it was too harsh on that person maybe the odd time.
Speaker 2:It's like a big lad walked in he said to me one day, can I use your toilet? I said I thought, fuck, I recognise his voice. I didn't really recognise him. And then, when he came out of the toilet and then I sort of fucking twigged. He says John, can I get a pint? I said no, sure, Ciarán, you're bored. He said, but that was 25 years ago. He says. He says I've changed. I said I haven't, you're still part of me. Fuck off.
Speaker 2:He just thought, fucking, 25 years later, because I always work at see if you're bored you're fucking bored like you're.
Speaker 1:You're bored for good reason.
Speaker 2:You're bored for good reason and then, like I know he has issues and all that, and then when I fucking seen him about tears, thought that was a good call me, send him your body. Obviously, he might have been in jail for a load of years oh, I agree, and he might be working in London, I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 3:He's in Chainsmere, aren't you?
Speaker 2:Fuck man, I seen him. Here's my fucking still body.
Speaker 1:God didn't he when he turns in, he's back in the fucking pint of no.
Speaker 2:Like I says Ciarán, you not live down that Kirkcobbin? I think that all fucking headers down there. When do you see the fucking Kirkcobbin one coming up? He said I don't live down there, I moved out, I moved away down there. Fuck, but here's me, wouldn't take it no chances.
Speaker 1:OIM country boys are fucking nuts. They come up and rack havoc Fucking nuts.
Speaker 2:Nuts.
Speaker 1:No matter what see anywhere, it'd be towns all around Belfast. They're all nuts.
Speaker 2:They're fucking rats. You see them at all that outbacks and all them country ones running around.
Speaker 1:They're the ones that start murder, fucking nuts. I went to Jerry's Cinnamon a couple of years ago and they had a normal park. He goes, ah, sean McCormack, and he grabbed me like fucking, put his hand around me messing about, and I was like fuck off you fucking idiot. And he was like, ah, you're a hard man or something. And I was like fuck me.
Speaker 2:You're a fucking bastard. You're talking about things you're in your own business and he's fucking concentrating.
Speaker 1:He's got me messing about like a fucking knife.
Speaker 3:Do you ever get any further when you're?
Speaker 2:out. No, fuck's sake, I never go anywhere where I'm going to run into headers or run into anybody. See, I don't drink, I fucking. I was going to say imagine him going out but he has the order of fucking coke he has the order.
Speaker 1:I never go nowhere, see, because you don't drink you'll have to go out and do your reign that you're against, because you'll go out and go here. Can I have a wee coke? So if I was a barman in another bar serving John and he's going to crit my lads. I'd go, john, out the fuck, I would work out you fucking have to watch where you go.
Speaker 2:You're going to bump into somebody. You fell out with somebody. You've had a run in with somebody that doesn't like you and like you're going?
Speaker 1:I'm not going nowhere.
Speaker 3:You're not going to see me up in Turf Lodge, you'll see 20,000 people or something of your name we used to live in Turf Lodge back in the day, son, we used to live in North Glanpraid oh aye.
Speaker 2:Away like fucking a lifetime ago.
Speaker 1:North Glanpraid, aye Aye, that's where we lived.
Speaker 2:Away back in the day. We lived in New Barnsley away back in the day. What?
Speaker 3:was your upbringing like and stuff like growing up, was it?
Speaker 2:tough Fucking, brutal, brutal fuck. You must be joking. You think everybody all gets a tandy. Steve, we all didn't get as handy as you.
Speaker 3:Do you think the generation now like they have it a lot easier than your generation? Fuck big time, big time. Oh, fuck big time big time, I know big time.
Speaker 1:Fuck sure I remember like obviously I wasn't fucking, I'm young but like, like in turf years ago, we didn't have no fucking, we had no floor. Like we had no floor and we didn't have paper on the walls, we were all fucking. That's all the walls in our house like and I I'm not saying I had a hard upbringing we didn't have fucking a pot to piss in, like, honest to God, see, we've. You know my dad's from about like an old tape recorder in 94 or something, 1984, I was too young to be like a fucking stinker. But we had no fucking, we had nothing. We had no wallpaper with no fucking floor, with no carpet, with no wooden floor, with nothing, just a big bare floor, black floor. We're like fuck. I was like fuck me, we must have got a technique.
Speaker 2:But here, sean, sometimes it does you no harm Ah fuck, I wouldn't change it.
Speaker 1:See, when I look back, I wouldn't change it at all.
Speaker 2:See, to be honest, with you, sean, way back in the day. Everybody was the same. It was well-fashed, everybody was working class, unless you were out robbing and stealing you hadn't a fucking mission.
Speaker 1:Unless're having a mission, you couldn't get ahead of yourself.
Speaker 2:For hair, that's it, you wouldn't get ahead of yourself.
Speaker 3:I've known a lot of people who had it very soft and then they don't have that toughness that resilience. See, if you have a tough upbringing, you'll just keep going powering through and you won't give up, compared to people that hand it to them.
Speaker 1:My wee dad's only four and he goes I want to go to Smiths. I ain't going to Smiths. He tell me I ain't going to Smiths. Yesterday I suppose I said you're going to fuck on the work and the fuck he's like no, I ain't going to Smiths. I mean who you talking to Get in? And he's like you get prudence when you deserve prudence and you be good and you, but like he can't even post it. He's only four. See, if he starts getting on again and start demanding and stuff, I'm going to fucking slap at him. You can't even hit kids, no more on the phone even the phone is hailing social service.
Speaker 3:You'll be getting lifted.
Speaker 2:You'll be over there with that great track suit come on, Come now.
Speaker 1:I've been here fucking. I've been blating about the wee lad. He's a tout he's a tout.
Speaker 2:He rang a social service. I get fucking lifted here.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck me. Sometimes you feel like going fucking ring a social service over here. Come and take you away from me, Give me a break, All right. Oh, fuck me. You've no kids, have you?
Speaker 3:No, next few years. I'm 32 now, pushing 33. Probably next few years Plenty of fucking.
Speaker 1:Plenty of time yet, Plenty of time, yet it's the women here how they do it. Young, they're not conceiving, or not? Yeah, Life changes when you've got a fucking child, isn't it Like if once you maybe you've three, have you?
Speaker 2:four, four.
Speaker 1:Four, fuck me, they're big lads too.
Speaker 2:My dad was big in my your son's is like about seven foot or something Big O'Sheen.
Speaker 1:O'Sheen was in his season, big young fella, he's only 22,.
Speaker 2:Sean Big, big young fella he's only 22.
Speaker 1:Will they See if someone can ask for coke? Is that the rules of the bar? Is it just your rules? So, O'Sheen say out the fuck with that, sean.
Speaker 2:Sean, I don't think I want all the confrontation. I don't think I want to be telling people to fuck off, like Stevie walked in the other week and like me and Oisín were having a run in over somebody and then there's only one way to run this and that's the way I run it. Stevie walks in in the middle and I'm telling you, I should know what it is. You can fuck off out the door. Fuck off Out the door. You go when you going. One would bother another he was a bit cheeky and I was a bit cheeky and where you went. But here's some tenders to our perception.
Speaker 3:I walked into like I had a thank you card for the London night and all it was a team effort and all. I walked up to John with a thank you card and I was like there you go. What's this?
Speaker 3:I was like thank you card, thank you for what I was like for like the London night and it was great. Oh, he's like alright, right, right, right cheers. Then you know she's like we're sort of like slavering each other. And then you were like I think one of yous were like are you acting the big man, and all that.
Speaker 1:And then there was like we, we were all watching this unfolding. Spackators.
Speaker 3:I was like right going to go here, john, and they're like all right, stephen, all best.
Speaker 2:But here all my lads they've probably looked at me and have thought that ain't lots of fucking header, like a few of them have said you work away, you're on your own there. And Big Cairn, he actually says you know what it is. He says see, if you're ever stuck for somebody to work in a bar and you're really stuck never ask me. And then the one who was a good old worker.
Speaker 2:It's all perception Like big coaching, big lads caring old big lads, but the fucking smallest one, the best worker in the place, the one that you could say right, you say right, you could take us on, you could do a good old job here because he was small. Everybody kept picking on him, but even round that old, St.
Speaker 2:George's. He can handle himself, doesn't really matter boxing, but like a guy, come in one day and he says get round a drink, is that the price? Fergal says it's a price. And you're working here. My dad owns a place. It'll make a price. Don't be so fucking cheeky to me. Who do you think you're talking to? I'm over at Barnanother. Next thing you know your man's in behind the counter, Fergal Fucking. Next thing you know your man's laying behind the counter, Sean over 50p. Your man says no, you've overcharged me 50p. Fergal's saying I haven't Pied the card, broke the gin and tonic. That's a price, that's a receipt. But he's the one. But because he's small, nobody's ever gonna. I'm gonna pick on him, but actually no one's gonna send him down because it says it can't be. And then Kieran's the same big lads, but everybody thinks so he's the fucking one.
Speaker 2:But he's the one who can handle himself. I'm the one who's fucking softer? Here's Fargo. No, it is. I'm away. I'm fucking out of here. Don't ever ask me to do a. He's gone, he's taken down the door. They must look at me and be thinking fuck me why don't you work in here? Be a land stand, I would love it. I would love it.
Speaker 1:I like you, tom, but it wouldn't work for you.
Speaker 3:I would love a week in here just to see what the fuck really was on the road.
Speaker 1:I used to work in the Trinity Lodge and Turf Lodge. You know everyone because I'm from Turf L Loads. But see, when you had Christens and it was an old Friday night rave up there and people were coming in with dud notes and fucking, you were going. There was a couple of lads from Divis having me a dud note and I knew where it was dud. I just went and bumped it up. He fucking started slurring me. It was £20 and I was like give me that back. The fuck, mate, it's a fucking dud, it's a dud note. I'm stupid. And he was like, ah, fucking dud, it's a fucking taxman, give me it. And I went what did you pay? For? A £50 note? How do you get a £20 change? £20 note for change. And he was like, oh, give me the fucking note back now. It's a big rowster. I went, no, it's good the fuck. And I didn't go and tell the doorman. I was just trying to put him out myself.
Speaker 1:Fuck, couple of weeks later he was up the bar trying to get in again. The door man. I'm like is he barring it? I'm like don't let him in because I'm now getting in the middle of a fucking row here over fucking fake notes and me, fuck sake, that's what we drop against like, no, that's like but. And you see people on the street yourself. You know what I mean. You're walking through City Centre and you're making up clack eyes with them and I'm like, fuck's sake, here we go. I have to do what you do, john, just fucking don't wait, don't bother me, because then I'll get in there again.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you fucking go to places and meet these guys and they're all headers.
Speaker 3:You ever?
Speaker 2:scared, remember we were filming.
Speaker 3:Monday we had a viral video and you got notifications from across the bar, some taxiers with you know gander leaks, he's coming around and he ended up. I ended up, I ended, I didn't know. He blocked and he ended up interviewing him and I go, uh, chatting away, and then he was snoring his words and then you were like you, you're not getting in here. And then he's like you think you're the big man and he started starting.
Speaker 1:Almost he chases down the street videographer like fell over and all and like we're chasing down the street and swinging and all and like you're CCTV everywhere, do you never get like you're never afraid of someone?
Speaker 2:Oh, of course you are. You do take your chances.
Speaker 1:You're not one you're not afraid of.
Speaker 2:You just have to take your chances and stand your ground, Like, even though, like you fucking have to stand your ground, I don't know what to say but you need to stand your ground, like, even though, like, you fucking have to stand your ground, Not a fair use to you.
Speaker 1:but you need to stand your ground, like, because you get the back up.
Speaker 2:Like, you're going to need like, and some of them come to the door they're fucking off their head.
Speaker 3:You have to stand your ground, take your chances Was there ever one in particular, and you were like this is scary, or is there not anything?
Speaker 2:like that, it's not like. After like 35 years, it's nothing Too much. Was anyone named for?
Speaker 3:anything Like that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, I would describe it like no, there's nobody, no names, never that bad. No, never.
Speaker 1:That's good, ah, that's good, it's a close thing. But a lot of punters it's people come in here for day drinking you night it sort of dies off in here. So people wouldn't come in fucking all day drinking all day and come in at night time. I suppose if it was open late it's open late enough, but I mean, if it was like a place where people went to at night time we'd get more shit and I know where there's Tucson.
Speaker 2:There's no entertainment or anything in here to keep them here. There's that music girl behind the counter. It's only low, so it's nothing. Like it's dead, like it's not, it's all. Either you're sitting with your missus you've been over the waterfront of the Odyssey or sitting having a few drinks before you go home.
Speaker 1:But like it's not, it wouldn't encourage you to stay like it's not a big a bond on, or a two-piece, or singing or pint. I'm pulling the pint and he's saying look at the pint, is it alright?
Speaker 2:have you sold any at the day and?
Speaker 2:he's had it before so I just cut the pint and I just fucked it round his face. I said here, I said here I'll tell you where the fucking pint's gone and I fucked it round, but which I didn't know. I fucking swear, I didn't know that it's assault, like. I just thought I can just fucking swing a paintbrush. They didn't know the law before you fucking. I had to go over to fucking Barks and take another caution, the wee inspector. He's a wee young fella. He said, like you know, you come up doing this here, like, and that there's assault, you're assaulted. I said fuck, sorry, I didn't really say that that was assault. I said, fuck, I'm sorry, I didn't really say that it was a joke. And like, how do you feel now? I said well, I feel a lot better. He says no, no, that's, that's the wrong answer. He says well, I'll just question again. And I say fucking sorry about that and fucking not hopping again oh, fuck me, I don't know, he's fucking but he's fucking malters like is that pint all right?
Speaker 2:is it okay that pint? Like, have you sold any at the day? I guess it's at it's five o'clock at night, do you think? Ah, fuck.
Speaker 3:No, no, someone comes in here and asks is your Guinness good? You hate that one, don't you?
Speaker 2:No, I just say they do. Yeah, like I don't know what the fuck is wrong with people. Maybe that's another one that maybe I'll just wind you up.
Speaker 1:Like is your Guinness any good? I got people that are malters, like people know where they're headed. They're headed and they ask questions. I got like who? I think I asked someone. Like people no, people ask me. Like say we're on holiday, a foreign holiday, and someone I never tell anyone about. Like about a boxing, say it brings up like the in-laws or the mates. Be like my stag and stuff. Mates go ah, he's a boxer. And like they're talking to a few people, people go ah. Are you any good? I go.
Speaker 2:no, I'm shit what the fuck, do you want me to?
Speaker 1:say what do you want me to say? Oh, I'm brilliant, I'm fucking brilliant, I'm world class, I've done this and that. Fuck off who you asking who you ask that type of question.
Speaker 2:Are you any good? I go fuck off. You should have said it, if you're fucking standing there looking for Like I take, I go, fuck, I just go.
Speaker 3:no, the worst one I get is like I tell them about, like you know, running Facebook pages and websites and all just trying to make a living. They're like are you making much money off it? Aw fuck. And I'm like are you making much money off your? Job People have actually asked me how much money you're making. To be honest, like generally year to year, I don't really know. I don't really know.
Speaker 1:I don't know who's up and down.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you're like we can go bust here and then the next year you're doing well and like you're just trying to survive and then there's someone to turn around. Be like it's almost like what's your set. You know we can ask someone your salary and I go. What are you earning? What's your salary? And then they go that's what you're asking me. They're like people.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. It's none of your business. People do it with Pakistan. It's enough to earn a living from it. I go. What would me fucking do? It's for free. What?
Speaker 2:I go fucking hell. These people have my fucking clue. But here, sean, you never get people. You're going to do a fight and you're going to do it personally. You get people like asking you.
Speaker 1:Huh, don't mind me asking People here Close to me, ask that I go Fuck you. Caps wouldn't ask that.
Speaker 2:That's my answer To everything.
Speaker 1:So if someone was me, what do you get for a last fee? Don't mind me asking, I go. You don't mind me asking.
Speaker 3:Fuck you.
Speaker 1:Caps wouldn't ask that.
Speaker 2:I don't want to say it Because you're late to do that. There's stupid adults Such a late to do that Put I didn't do it for free.
Speaker 1:put it that way Fuck's sake, get my headpiece. That's what you get. I get all the time from people. The fact was a year ago in New York. People asked me oh did you. You must go to Elk Bell.
Speaker 2:I go, you must go to.
Speaker 1:Elk Bell I go, fuck's sake, I'm going to fuck off.
Speaker 2:It's bad now put it that way go away, but Sean.
Speaker 1:That's it, john, back at it. So it was fucking 14 months In the ring and, like Over there, they were making this big hangout Been in the ring. 14 months In the ring. I don't believe In ring rust and my performance Showed that I don't believe In ring rust. If you're still Training me, I haven't been Out of the ring Because I've been Sparring, I've been train sores.
Speaker 2:No such thing as bringers to have them fought alright, so fuck but, sean, you're always a good old operator, good to watch, good old bit of class about you like. Oh, they always enjoyed watching you're always good old bit of class about you, good old movement good old feet.
Speaker 1:You're good to watch the feet are made for dancing I just want to fucking remember my son's name in fucking 20 years. You know what I mean. I don't want to go in and stand on fucking blood buffs. I like movement. I don't like getting hit, put that way. I don't fucking like getting hit, so I just try and get something.
Speaker 2:You know what shout out Shane Hitt, oh Hitt, don't get hit. That's the name of the game.
Speaker 1:So I try and do that as much as I can. And then they've got me out. They had me out last week, they had me out in September, here again 26 September, and they're looking me to headline a show in Belfast December. So and then last night I got a fucking tweet from Dad and Henny, world Champion, tax me saying let me promote you. I was like fuck me just after saying it, for another promoter fucks it. It all comes whenever you don't need it. Six months ago but that'll appear.
Speaker 2:If you want to put her in a ring 14 months, maybe does it not go hard any more it's just, it's frustrating more than anything, because people think you're retired and I understand why.
Speaker 1:But people keep going like you're done, you give it another go, I go. I didn't give it another go, I'm still training. They're like you're not fighting, no more. I. I was like obviously I fucking can't get a fight. I've been trying. I'm fucking on social media every day calling people out trying to get fights. Can't get a fight, can't get a fight worthwhile no promoter, no promotional backing. If there's no shows in Belfast, I can't get a fight. Nothing on this card. I mean, fuck me, if it was that easy.
Speaker 3:But all we did, I think a lot of people, and you're deciding not to play. It's not like that.
Speaker 1:It doesn't work like that. There's lots of politics behind the scenes and it's out of my hands. That's why you have a manager, and that's why you have promoters and I just do the boxing.
Speaker 2:And what about this old bill? Do you think that'll come off in Windsor Park? Sure, it's near done.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it's done, I'm near sure it's September. It's somewhere Sunday, september so listen, that'll be a fucking, that'll be a big, big bill, obviously big fucking. It'll be good for like be good for Belfast to have a big, massive world, all Irish world. Title for Lewis Cracker and fucking Paddy Donovan first time ever in a big football stadium. Be fucking unreal, be fucking unreal, be fucking. Be good for anyone that gets on that. But I'll not be on that card because I'm a different promoter now so I don't care.
Speaker 1:He actually offered me to go on. He says do you want me to try and get you on that? Because he sounded that way. He was like I don't a good platform to be on, so I'm happy enough to try and get John. He said, no fuck, just whatever benefits you and I can pay it, I don't care where I fight, I'll fight in the green fucking car park about half time, happy enough to fight. And they were just paying me and we're alright. And he was like soon enough, happy it is. So that's it. Hopefully we'll get that world title soon.
Speaker 2:John, just keep chipping away couple of fights this year. It starts by you getting into next year like you're. It starts by you next year getting into good fresh when's he going on the wall?
Speaker 1:he got a few boxes there when a world title, he'll get on the wall.
Speaker 2:Well, the only thing is that I'm contracted. I'm contracted to all these paintings by the one wee man. The wee man used to come in we, joe Cain, lived in the market, sir, and and he died there a few months ago.
Speaker 1:So no more. No paintings going on the wall, no paintings.
Speaker 2:I always give the wee man a bit of respect and he's always done them from day one. His family comes in and the wee man, he was a good wee man over the years, a good wee customer, and he's done all these but I never, ever, always, sort of kept it that I didn't want to put everybody's stuff up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you ever have people come in here to look at this art and try to buy it off you? Is it offered to buy it?
Speaker 2:I'd want to buy this stuff. In 35 years I've never seen anybody produce it. No, I did once and a Russian man came in and he wanted to buy a painting. And I just said off the top of my head, a fucking ridiculous amount of money. And your man pulled the money out.
Speaker 2:For a wee fucking simple painting. I forget, but it was thousands I asked him for. I just said off the top of my head and it's the first time I've ever seen one your man paid me in 500 euro notes, he says. I said okay if I pay you in euros no Russians, eh, come me up then. No your man, he fucking says I pay you. I pay you in euros. I thought he was Roman Ljubramovic.
Speaker 3:I they're not fucking 20-year-old notes or something.
Speaker 2:They're 50s Fucking 500.
Speaker 1:500 euros out of green ones.
Speaker 2:I tried to cash it in Donegal, went into a shop in Newton Cunningham and they got the fucking Garda. They thought I was trying to do them.
Speaker 1:Thought you were the northern bank. I said is that fucking real?
Speaker 2:The shop had never seen a 500-year-old, I thought, fuck, I'd get get rid of this.
Speaker 1:I'd break it up. Break up the note.
Speaker 2:Fuck's sake, no chance. Fuck next thing. You know they're gone Fuck.
Speaker 1:I did and you're getting lifted. That would only happen in Ireland. And you're getting when does money come from Uh-huh when?
Speaker 2:does money come from? I said no. A Russian came here, a fucking English story said it, but you all say it.
Speaker 1:I last place you want to be is up there fucking because I see a border thing, like where they are, like because the border they have a lot of people like arrested from Derry and all like on the border have to come in. That'd be a fucking nightmare because then they have to do like an, an extradition thing because it's north and south, but it's fucking right next door. It's crazy, fucking crazy every fucking place. Listen, we'll wrap it up here, john, because I know you have a busy fucking day of serving, serving.
Speaker 2:Get out of Guinness. Get out of Guinness.
Speaker 1:I appreciate the story. I appreciate having this with you.
Speaker 2:It's fucking. Hundreds and hundreds every day. Like see, during the summer I was concentrating Like you'd hit 1,000. What's?
Speaker 1:the most Guinness in hell.
Speaker 2:But like a lot of MDS Now, some MDS that Belsanica, the weather's good. You'd be up around 1000.
Speaker 1:That's insane, insane 1200 Guinness. Even if they serve 1000 Guinness one day, people wouldn't serve that in a week.
Speaker 2:No, like it's a lot. It's a lot of stuff, like you know what I mean, and here it's only out of One tap. Sweet Magna. That's why I see all them Half pints now.
Speaker 1:I can't keep up. We're just listening. They're fucking.
Speaker 2:You're drinking a pint, you can fuck off Somewhere else.
Speaker 1:So there you go, folks.
Speaker 2:No, half pints no half pints.
Speaker 1:No coke drinkers, no coke drinkers, no fucking, no nonsense.
Speaker 3:Don't be too polite either.
Speaker 1:A no nonsense bar Don't be too nice to Mr Bentley.
Speaker 2:Don't be too nice to Mr Bentley. He's too suspicious I'd be coming in with a Celtic or Rangers top with nothing below it. You won't be proud.
Speaker 1:Fucking Rosby Ripples would be it I'd say the Rosby Ripples.
Speaker 2:You can't be showing your Rosby Ripples in the air.
Speaker 1:Listen. Thanks for having me, john, I appreciate it Great new power.