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The Public Nuisance Podcast
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The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #038 “Some Show” with Tiarnan McCarthy
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Business Owner & Public Speaker, Tiarnan McCarthy to the podcast.
We cover Winning That Prize Guy, Fake DVDs, Taping the Ricky Hatton Fight, Your Das Dodgy Tapes, Kids these Days, Finding Balance, The Rock, Being Addicted, Redefining the Alpha, Mens Mental Health and much more.
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Welcome to this episode of the Public Nations Podcast, brought to you from Kiln Studios, right here, where you can get all your content done from podcasts, photo shoots, videography, editing. We've got a Magician in our hands here. But let's not forget that praise guy. We all want to win it. We all come close Something. You know what I hate? Praise guy right, I love him, but I hate that someone so close to me wins it. I was like Fuck.
Speaker 2:And I encourage you.
Speaker 1:To even want to do it Even more, so I'm going to end up Fucking skint, doing all these prizes and not winning.
Speaker 3:I spent a fortune on Prize Guy, to be honest. I had to delete my account.
Speaker 2:No, I was just randomly next time you're next door, never mind 100 grand fuck mate.
Speaker 3:Sure, gary, the guy he says me about, remember he won the he was like I was just sitting in the house and I bought two tickets and next thing you know, I won it and I was like you're a one of them.
Speaker 1:I spent about I spent the first time. I'm not supposed to win anything like. That's just why I believe there's certain people who win really fuck off at the worst, like I. I remember doing a football bet before and I picked like man City and Real Madrid double and it was probably getting me back fuck off. I don't even know why I done it, but I stuck like 100 quid on it and they both got beat. I don't know what I mean. I mean like man.
Speaker 1:City had lost a game in about two years. Real Madrid were paying fucking Osasuna or something in the last.
Speaker 3:I can't do football bats, mate, I don't. I remember a praise guy put up a hang up and was like assert the win. You know, like 1am once he was like assert the win, so I was going to himself, I'll just put it on, I'll take his word for it. I was down with her At the car bar and I was like Fuck it, I ain't gonna win Something here. You know what I mean. It's about time. So I just bought Like 20 tickets, made a cost me Like a score and it gave me back Like 20 quid in credits and I was like Are you serious?
Speaker 2:Quick transaction.
Speaker 3:So it's come up One pound credit, one pound credit, one pound credit, I was like fucking hell. It's a waste of time, nick he wasn't that he was all good man Fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1:See, in my gym, in our gym, we have, like I'd say we have like six or seven winners, like big winners, gary being one of them, won the Rolex. His wee girl won 40 grand. Wee Bing won the million. He won the first million. No grand we being won the million, he won the first million. No way we. Anto used to work for his Anto Johnson. Oh yeah, he's now at 120 grand, and then with two others who won in around 20 of us.
Speaker 2:So fuck me I ain't going.
Speaker 1:That's like my encouragement to it. I'm going to fuck him and I'll be. Everyone be like manifesting and I be going. I'm fucking. No, my problem is I'm manifesting. I have no chance.
Speaker 2:I be going fuck. No cramming up, I have no chance.
Speaker 3:It's because I look for the cheapest tickets and I, you know, like probably about 100,000 people have bought tickets, so you have no chance like you're probably best.
Speaker 1:tickets for like 100 quid? No, fuck it. I can't get a ticket for 100, quid no?
Speaker 3:chance.
Speaker 1:Because that's like, it's good, because it's accessible to people like local people from like fucking suburbs of Belfast and this and the fucking you know what I mean in the communities, whereas them other ones fucks paying 100 quid for a fucking raffle ticket.
Speaker 3:I know the winner percent of golf clubs.
Speaker 2:Golf clubs are only fucking 50 quid.
Speaker 3:Like. The greatest guy about 20 years ago would have been some fella and his guy from Twenberg was selling raffle tickets for a fucking pair of golf clubs Going in and out of doors.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can buy one of them or fire it for a pound Fake DVDs.
Speaker 3:fake DVDs when you work he used to have a fella called no-transcript. I used to run right here and one of them goes I'm my dad. He says your dad was shimmy, good show see anyone who's done anything knows how lucky they can be good show, like because he used to go. That's good show, that's good show.
Speaker 2:What to have you gilding little people?
Speaker 3:that's good show, fuck off oh god, that's on me out. It's only fucks like it's on me. I used to hate them.
Speaker 2:Dvds used to see them people, oh God.
Speaker 3:That's on the out, it's on the fuck. It's on the me, mate. I used to hate DVDs. I used to see like People getting up and walking past the screen.
Speaker 2:Talking down and all I go fuck me. Oh God, right mate, what are you doing? What the fuck? It's a shadow, it's your, it's a ghost. Kids nowadays.
Speaker 3:Don't have a clue, like no man.
Speaker 1:The fire sticks and all turn the fucker Activision right to DVD for life.
Speaker 2:They never look back. Go turn right to DVD for life mate, I never like videos and all.
Speaker 1:I still have video tapes in my house, like stashed away, like old ones. My dad wants to get them. You go around, use the tape, old ones, mate.
Speaker 2:Ah, what's getting you. You know what I mean. You used to take my worst stuff Now like Record stuff. You still have my some fucking Ah Koi soldiers the next time the jeans on the sun, like that when I'm, you still have Free up. No socks on Pulling the plump To himself, fucking hell. Ah, I said I have. Oh man, feet up. No socks on pulling the plug to himself, fucking hell, that's what I have oh mate, jesus Christ mate.
Speaker 3:I remember my dad used to crack up me because I used to get videos out of the shop and I used to hate him so he couldn't bring him back because he had to bring him back and my dad used to crack up every week and be like where the fuck?
Speaker 3:I used to crack up every week and be like where the fuck, like I used to. I loved Harry Potter when I was a kid and I don't even watch it anymore, but I was like I had all the Harry Patterson video like hidden different places in my room. My dad be like I swear to fuck, see if you don't get me a fucking video and go out to pay a fucking toilet paper.
Speaker 2:I got Harry Potter back.
Speaker 1:Oh fucking brilliant, we used to get them and fucking we got like we don't before my mates house Years ago, my mate, when was that Pornhub?
Speaker 2:We taped over, never knew it was a pornhub, right, we just thought it was a blank tape.
Speaker 1:We were we just taped. We didn't watch the tape to know it was a porno. But we watched, we taped over a boxing fight I think Ricky Hadner, something, was fighting years ago and we taped over it and we're like, oh, we'll watch it, we'll watch it back, and the next day he's we had it, his ma had it the next time, the VCR and he's like we went in and he's like he's still in the VCR and he's like moving in.
Speaker 1:So we all went to the living room like it was all our mates, all our wee mates. We all like went up in the wee call center.
Speaker 2:We all like none of the really happy people so he went over to the and came home and said look, I'm fine oh, jesus Christ, the dad blamed it on the son. He's like it's not the baby. The dad was trying to take a round for taping the boxing fight and says he must have taped the right boxing fight with the corner. He was going away right.
Speaker 3:He was like fuck me. We were all just like fuck me. Fuck he's winning this round. Fuck me man. Oh wait, that was uncle. Oh, jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:That's a belt mate. Oh mate. So funny they're one.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ, that's a belt, mate aw mate so funny they were like the kids nowadays never understand that. I reckon if you give a kid a tape and a VCR. They wouldn't know that they were. They'd be like how's this work?
Speaker 3:nah, they wouldn't even the CD now, mate, big walk man, like mate, I worked, I worked in a school. I worked in St Colm's, my old school, and like all the kids, man, I was like, I was like took back like by how much they're like addicted to TikTok and all like YouTube shorts and all like like they don't like, they don't like watch, they couldn't watch like a film. Man, we used to watch a film like in a class, like if you had a free like if you had a free class.
Speaker 3:Like a teacher would stick on a film but they'd shut up.
Speaker 1:Watch this phone. I can't be fucked.
Speaker 3:I need to sit and watch it. They couldn't even watch it. Now they have to whip out their phones and tag stuff.
Speaker 1:Now. People are like, even like grown ups, like that sometimes. I'll do it. I wish I'd watched the film and I was like I'm looking at absolutely fuck off it's just a check. It's like we were just talking about it before. It's like an addiction. It's like what do you do when you hang out your phone? You reach for it, you're seeing you lose your phone. You keep thinking you still have it, it's more shit like that. It's just the way society is. It's like everything's online?
Speaker 3:yeah, it's being aware of it, but you know what I mean. Like if you're going to, at least you're going to at least do something about it. But the problem is the most of the kids that I work with they're not aware of it. You know what I mean. So like they can't identify it. So, like if I was to ask them, like, why do you think your attention span is so bad? I'm like, because some of them had to get like time out cards and all like to leave a class.
Speaker 1:You weren't loud. See now you're obviously Loud phones at school. You couldn't stop it. Because every single kid has a school. See, if you had a phone At school, you've got to talk off you. You've got to talk off you and hand it back, either the end of the day or the end of the week, sometimes the end of the week.
Speaker 3:My teachers were Definitely different. But there's so much, there's so much, there's no nine Like for I mean like 100%.
Speaker 1:I'm a firm believer, like I, I, my wee lad fucking. He's only four like and he watches like em shorts, em youtube shorts, and I only I don't give him. He has an ipad. I don't give him his ipad. I don't give him a phone unless we're out for dinner. You know what I mean. So I can just keep him, because he doesn't. He just wants to run around and fuck about. Now you don't get to sit down and enjoy dinner. So I just give him the phone, goers. But he want. He calls it tic tac. I don't know what's tic tac, it wasn't tic tac, fucking.
Speaker 1:So I just give him the shorts, the YouTube shorts and I just tape in what he's watching so I can make sure it's fucking PG. You know what I mean, because there's times I've screwed and someone's cursing and I go, whoa, what's that and he's like well, he's watching scary monsters on the bed, fucking scaring people like maybe, um, godson he was.
Speaker 3:He was watching something the other day called like brain rat. I was like what's this? And it was just the most random shit and I was going to myself like I'm in the wrong business like I don't make a fortune over the biggest like video and recording the biggest lot of crap like opening toys no, the worst things like still.
Speaker 1:I mean Asian kids, not Asian people, just making the worst films, the worst videos ever. How kids do you make? But it's, it's brainwashing, it's like they see colours and see like, how do I get that open?
Speaker 3:or how do they do that, and then they just want to watch it and it's a meaningless fucking video like I was a kid in the school I worked in and he was just mad at me like he was nuts, like even for like like our standards, like from school. And he was, he was just there was no control on him.
Speaker 3:Like yeah but he put in the room with me because he was waiting on his dad coming down grabbing him, and he was. He was on the computer and on his phone and I seen what he was watching on YouTube and it was like people playing with Play-Doh, you know, like making Play-Doh figures, and I'm like he seems switched on because of what he can do, but that's the only thing that grabs his attention. But I don't know, it's strange because they have different units and all now and schools and like I worked in Glenveig for a while, knowing special needs and like the difference between the current like Glenveig, and the current like mainstream.
Speaker 3:It's vastly different. But there were some kids like in mainstream that should have probably been in like special needs but like there's no space for them. But they're not that severe that they should be in like Glenveig you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:They can be there's like they can't Like there's. You can bury them in a way like where it's not special. They don't need to require the same special attention as some of the kids in Glenveig do.
Speaker 3:They're a wee bit too aware. They're a wee bit too aware because, like, for example, if you put one of them kids in like a special needs unit, like a proper special agent, like they probably think there's something wrong with them and then they would take it really personal and you know what I mean like act up on that 100 it's obviously like something that is way beyond what I'm able to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly it's like it's being diagnosed as well. You need like a professional obviously to diagnose. You'd be like he needs to be here.
Speaker 3:I think, like obviously it's up to screws to have like a professional on hand to be able to go like he doesn't belong here, yeah, but like me and my mate were talking about this and they sent me out like a couple of weeks ago and we were saying like, see if we were on about hip-hop walls.
Speaker 1:No, I had some semi-roll headers, always like a lot of people were amazed and no one was diagnosed.
Speaker 3:I know no compass diagnosed and then it's the quay, it's the debate, whether like, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Speaker 1:I don't know like, like I think it's a bad thing it is I'm back off spiel speed. Like james mclean, his daughter's um autistic. I always speak to James regularly. He's a gentleman and James is like see all the stuff that my daughter has, I have some of him. So he went and got tested and he's autistic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he never, ever knew, so he put up a hang saying I'm autistic.
Speaker 1:And he doesn't drink or anything. He's very particular in what he does. And see, when he put it up, I was like you know what? He actually can't see it because he has a routine which way he does things. Everything has to be particular and you can see that there's autism in him. See, if he was diagnosed with autism as a kid, he wouldn't be given a chance people would be fucking written the pack.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it would giving him a chance to play football. People would be fucking ripping the back of him or people would be getting him. But I'm telling you now, it would have been very hard for him to get a break on football, being autistic definitely, and maybe he probably wouldn't be as good as he was if he wasn't autistic. I know, do you know what I mean? But like it's just, it would have been. It's just what I've been frowned upon, yeah, by other teammates. He may have suffered from a wee bit of bullying, maybe, which he probably never did because he wasn't autistic. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Even there's people in my family, mate, that I know are neurodiverse. You just know it. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with it. I've been thinking about it because there is things I do. I probably would have been diagnosed with something, but I think you know, like, for example, there's a fella I train and he works in IT and he's like in a really big IT firm and he says to me like say, if you want to work in our department, you need to be neurodiverse. Like yeah, I understand. Even like Jiu Jitsu, best use it too. And fetters, or whatever you want to call them, like they they're, most of them are neurodiverse.
Speaker 1:Like they're strange. It requires so much to be like, to be like near enough, to be like that type of athlete where it's like so fucking like to be near enough, like Ronaldo. I would say Ronaldo's probably autistic in some way or some some form of like ADHD combined, because how can he be so? It's impossible to be that possessed or to be that, like you know, have a passion for so long and so like trained up. It's like every manager you speak about says like, oh, he still comes in the training ground two hours before everyone else, he leaves two hours later and everyone later, and he's 40 yards.
Speaker 3:It's like the hyper focus, you know what I mean, like the pure hyper focus on something you know like and I I've trained people in the past who have been like autistic neurodiverse and see, when they get into the training mate and they get into their lifting, they become like really fixated on it. Yeah, like to the point where like it consumes their life, but not in a way that they seem harmful, but like you probably would. But they don't say it like that because they they have to be fixated on something yeah, it's their focus.
Speaker 1:That's something like I have a mate who's sent his wheel out and apparently, apparently he sent his wheel out up to the FAA. He's fucking flying, he's pure. He calls him the yank because he has an American accent does he? No, if he goes. Oh the wee yank, the yank's up and fucking and he's flying, he's flying because that's his like fucking.
Speaker 1:That's his wee like, but he runs about with headphones on like he's pretty like and watches the fucking iPod everywhere he goes like. So it's not, it's very visible. You know what I mean. To know that he's autistic, but obviously he's flying and things like that. He's loving it. And it's good for Bernie because he's like if this wasn't, if we didn't have access to this, he would just be always on the boat on his iPod. But now, like it'd be very hard to get him away from it you know what I mean and make him like socialise, because people like that are very hard to be like hard to be like.
Speaker 1:They don't believe they belong amongst society because they're always on the on that ipod or always watching whatever they're doing yeah now he's involved in group training and playing with other kids and and it's like what you were saying about the addiction thing.
Speaker 3:Like everybody kind of has an addiction, they agree, you know what I mean. There's always something that you you'd be fixated on, or something you use as a vase or a coping mechanism or whatever it is, but it's just whether it's healthy or not, isn't?
Speaker 1:it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, or whether it's and you know, like I obviously started doing, like the men's mental health events and the whole, the whole point behind that was like the whole point behind the events was to have like conversations about things like this, you know, like, and go into different areas of it yeah rather than just hyper focus on one area.
Speaker 3:So like I see like a lot of like mental health events and stuff like that, they're great, don't get me wrong, and like I've been to plenty of them, but the focus too much on one thing and the demonize everything else yeah so like they'll say like breath work or something like I like breath work. But some people like really hyper focus on breath work and don't pay attention to anything else yeah some people focus on trauma too much and nothing else.
Speaker 3:Some people like going to like addictions, but they don't talk about nothing else and they're all tools. You know what? I mean yeah, you can use. You know different mechanisms different mechanisms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just like like I think people need to find out what, but like it's out, it's not an escape, it's something that's going to benefit them, that they enjoy doing. It has to be something that you enjoy first, otherwise you'll be like what's the point?
Speaker 3:everything has a trade off, mate. You can't just, for example, people with addictions you know what I mean say they come off eggs or they come off drink. They can't just cut that out completely and not put anything in its place. No, they always put something in its place, whether it's like training or a sport or anything. Oh, anything, training, fucking anything. Anything like food or even like get a vape or whatever Like, no, like. There's always something to replace that addiction. So addiction isn't necessarily a really bad thing. It just depends, obviously, to what degree. And is it healthy?
Speaker 3:or not in my opinion.
Speaker 1:I just think if it's benefiting you, it's healthy, no matter what it is. I mean, if it's benefiting your mental health, your mental stability, it's healthy. As long as it's not, it's not harmful in any other way. Do you know what I mean? It's not like I was talking about earlier going from, let's say, going from cocaine to grass. Know what I mean? That's just stupid, that's fuck. I don't sniff cocaine or smoke fucking a half ounce of grass every night.
Speaker 3:I know loads of people like that. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it right.
Speaker 1:So it's like it has to be a negative and a positive. Yeah, the positive can be Any positive. Yeah, as long as it makes you happy and it makes you a better person and it benefits your life it can be anything.
Speaker 3:I've even seen people like they used to go out and be like I don't drink no more, I just don't care.
Speaker 1:And I'm like what Like why you have to stop Seven years and start drinking and like what?
Speaker 3:you went from fucking doing something that's legal to doing something illegal on it's own, like completely on it's own and like you know what I mean, like you probably cut out the wrong thing or like you know what I mean you've done a U-turn, lads, or something someone's probably U-turned out, and then one night he goes and you cut that in and he goes aye, I drink no no head rack has a lord in it before.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, it's fried. I need to stop that drink and little did they know? They fucking spent 300 quid in gear and ruined that in the engine with that drink mate.
Speaker 3:And then that's the other thing, like too, about the mental health events as well. You will notice like a lot of, especially over here, like because obviously I moved toia for two years and over in australia it was bad for partying too, like like people are bad over for partying just as much as they are over here. Yeah, but um, a lot of most like mental health problems that I've came across like can't say most because I don't know. Yeah, you know, I mean, I can't you know I can't say for other people I can't speak for everyone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you only sound like you're, but um most of them do come from like drugs, you know what I mean but, um, but drugs isn't the problem like it's. Drugs is what exaggerates the problem. You know what I mean it makes it like 10 times worse.
Speaker 3:And then thinking and you start to dig a hole cool, deeper, deeper, and it like yeah, everything in your head is 10 times worse if you're like on a calm down or you're hungover, and that's the thing. I work with a lot of young men now, from 14 to 16 and on and when I'm speaking to them they're exposed to things like space and all. They cook and all. But they're very exposed to it now when we were younger we probably weren't as exposed to it as we were probably blowing grass maybe, aye, but like you weren't like really as exposed to it as you are, no now.
Speaker 1:I do as a viewer on your phone as well.
Speaker 3:You have access to it right now yeah, and, like you know, you can see it visually too you know what I mean and there's a lot of young parents now as well, like in my opinion, like from working in the school and all like.
Speaker 3:I know it's like parents now are like a lot younger than what yeah and a lot of them like still would go out and still do things and all and like it's. You know, kids do copy what they see. They don't listen to you like. You know what I mean. They'll just copy what they see.
Speaker 3:So if they see like you like going out and drinking and going partying or whatever, like they're going to think that's alright, it's just normalising aye, and don't get me wrong like it's not saying she can go out, no, like. What I'm saying is like if you have got like some kind of status or you've, you know, you've people, that's what kind of changed things for me, because I would have been bad for going out like, and I just sort of caught myself on and noticed like not only was it damaging my mental health and my health, like, and I couldn't really control myself when I was out, like I was like one pint and I was away, but it was the fact that kids and all were, like you know, training with me and the kids in the school and all were looking up to me and I was kind of felt a bit guilty about that you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not leading a good pathway. Basically, you're just training quite the route. You don't need to lead the one thing in the end do you? For starters, you're not sustained or training. No, you'll just go fuck this. This isn't for me. No, you know, and they'll stare and they'll like sure you do it. No one else like sure you can't tell me off, you do it. You know what I mean. You need a lead by example and they're enough like.
Speaker 3:I think the mountain thing for me was but when I was younger, like before, even before I went to Oz, was any time like they would have, like they would have turned around to me, mate, and been like you're young, you know, like that, and I'm like so. Is it acceptable then to feel like shit because you're young, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, People, just people, just tell you like ah sure, look, listen, you'll be there in the morning. That life, you know what I mean. Everyone wants to live like oh, just be happy, you're basically coming down because you're not happy what makes you?
Speaker 3:happy isn't the same thing but, it doesn't make them happy. I was about to say what makes them happy, but it probably doesn't. They probably just let themselves and say it makes them happy. But it doesn't like if someone had to turn into you obviously you've been boxing like your whole turn into you and say you're training too hard. You know what I mean. Like you're going to boxing too much and you need that out of my head. Just be, young, you wouldn't be where you are now.
Speaker 1:I know what you're right fuck it. He says, because you're not flucking for an excuse. You know what I mean. It's like someone convinced you to do something. All they need to do is threaten you with a good time.
Speaker 3:You go, fuck yeah that sounds good, to me that sounds better than saying hard I'm gonna carry it the easy option.
Speaker 1:Nick, no, I mean someone someone elder, someone you look up to or someone who, like you feel have been like success on their life, even if it's like your own man there or something like I want to enjoy yourself, hang on someone never let a file like the money.
Speaker 3:And it's half four in the morning, they're just looking really great.
Speaker 1:Fuck here, go and enjoy yourself. We're in a party.
Speaker 3:We're in a corner, me and your dad are getting a bit of weight feet back up again this year, oh yeah it's a totally part of this
Speaker 3:oh man, no, I was like. I was like. I was like I would have looked for an excuse to get out of things and, you know, like I would have looked for someone that would give me the easy option and say, like you know what, listen, mitzi, partying all the time. I'm going to do that every now and again, but every now and again to me isn't the same as every now and again to you, like every now and again to me, maybe every weekend but like every now and again they use probably once a month or once every two months.
Speaker 3:But and that's why I laugh when people say about balance and all Like you hear all, especially PDs, and all talk about balance. You know like balance is different for everybody, exactly.
Speaker 1:Everyone's balance is different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's. In my opinion, there's no such thing as balance, there's balancing. So like say, for example, you were eating shit constantly, obviously you would have to even that out, maybe be like right, once a week I'll have like one meal where it's off plan, or you know, that's balancing.
Speaker 1:But like it's not balance it may not be for some you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So you're constantly, you're always balancing things yeah, you're balancing your whole life.
Speaker 1:Everything you do is balancing like your job. Your you do is balancing like your job. Your on the go. You're eating on the go. It's like you're it's balancing yeah. I'm balancing all the time. Everyone's always balancing everything they do in life yeah, and I.
Speaker 1:I believe in that as well. If you don't, you can't just go and fucking go on the rip because you, like you, don't earn the right to go on the rip. I believe you should. Just you just drink. If I think people should just drink whenever there's an occasion or there's something, there's a reason to drink, yeah, but see, just go on drinking because you trained or trained well all week or worked all week. That doesn't. That shouldn't be like I've earned a drink.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean and we've all done it like a lot. I've all done it 100%. I still do it.
Speaker 1:I do every week, but I don't go to a bar and go. I've earned a pint, I get the pint.
Speaker 3:I still do too.
Speaker 1:I just go drinking Because I go for dinner and I go, I get a few pints Aye.
Speaker 3:I would still do it too, but then it's less, far less, and I used to drink the beer like you know, like fuck, the whole week. Yeah, the whole week Aye, but aye, but, ladd-ofstein, exactly, and, but it's, you know, it's, it's a selfish you mean Bing McLaugh?
Speaker 2:Oh, jesus Christ oh putting that punch back.
Speaker 3:Mate, it's mad, mate, like it's it was always. It was always a wee bit of an escape for me, like, but you're right, like even like fight camp, like fight camp's not balance, you know what I mean. Like that's nowhere near balance. That's obsessing. But sometimes you have to do that, especially like to achieve like big things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know you have to fuck and everything every time. I would bet like I haven't even got a fight yet and I've got a date. I was told I'm fighting in September. Haven't got an opponent yet I've sent two opponents that I would potentially want to fight. First one fell through, second one still. I'm hopeful but see, every night I wake up fucks. He got around him Like tin of harp, the ring, the water bottle and they just put a lid on the tin of harp.
Speaker 3:If he falls through, get him.
Speaker 1:But I'd be obsessed. See, at night time I'm lying on bed. That's all I'm thinking about and that's like it's easy I don't have anything confirmed. I'm going like I'm laying in bed the night before I go to sleep every night. That's what I'm thinking about, and I didn't know I'd done that until like a couple of fights ago, where that's like all I think about every night going to bed when I get afraid of nights and I never actually thought that I was doing that because it was normal until I just caught myself on like I was like fuck me, that's all I think about well, like that's why, like obviously not related to that, but like similar.
Speaker 3:Like that's why, like therapy and all is good, because like therapy and like breath work and different methods can help you identify things like that. Because you probably aren't aware of it, because it's normal to you, like it doesn't seem like not normal, you know what I mean. And then other people do it around you and they probably think it's normal. So then they say like, oh, what's the point in even identifying that? Sure, it's normal and it's like should we all do it? But you know, it wasn't until I actually like took time out to identify things that I like I would have been obsessed. So if I wasn't drinking or partying or like numbing myself in some way, I would have worked. So I would have like trained and worked like to the point where I was like I just hurt myself, mate. Yeah, like I was, like I wasn't resting, I wasn't sleeping properly, I was getting sick and all like just, and nobody would have knew.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, I mean like nobody would have knew I would have covered it up well, like. But uh, I would have. Like when I started coaching and all I I would have tried to be, it was glory bars, to be busy. You know what I mean. It was like if I'm in the gym from 6am to 9pm, everyone will think I'm alright and successful, and that was probably doing you more harm than what the drink was.
Speaker 3:It was killing me, man, and I was like I was doing that as a badge of honour, like a busy fool, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly 100% if I look busy, it'll give me some like validation and it'll it'll appear to people like I'm successful, I'm doing well, and that was important to me because I was always worrying about what other people thought about me like yeah.
Speaker 3:I was like if I'm not busy, you know people are going to think oh, ter Terence not doing well in the coaching and he's falling behind and all I was constantly.
Speaker 1:It's always like what other people like think. It's not even about like how you feel or like you're probably going home at night and you think, oh, fuck this like yourself.
Speaker 3:And then if you went out as well like I know a few of you have experienced this like probably not as bad as me, like it's just like I would have, the thing that would have happened to me the next day would have been like people seeing me I know, because I'm a culture or whatever like I would have thought like everyone's talking about me, that's it.
Speaker 1:What's he gonna do? He's my, he's my. Who the fuck's he to say like, oh, I'm training all the time, now he's drinking. I mean obviously, like I don't give.
Speaker 3:I'm at that point now. I don't care.
Speaker 1:I've never cared, yeah. But well, my lad, I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once. I did it once, I did it once. Drinks only calories. And it is like it's only calories, but it is. If you fucking it's, it's calories. In a few days fucking lying like a bag of spuds if you're fucking, if you rip the whole out of it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, but I just fucking.
Speaker 1:I always used to keep myself sweet. I had a few beer in my home, no like, and if I was fighting in six weeks time that would have been only if it was like a big reason to drink like a Wadden or something, but it's like nah nah, I don't care what people say.
Speaker 3:I'm at that point now like I think, especially when you, when you get to a certain point where you want to settle and all like you want to, you know, have a family and all that's your main concern, I suppose, rather than what people think, or some racket thinks or whatever, or some Egypt you met in Tamsin thinks, I mean it's like no that's it.
Speaker 1:Now you give a fuck like you're your own person. That's it like when I go home, it's me, my wife, my child, that's it. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks yeah and even like social media is big for it, like people get like go on, just fucking start slowering. I've never been insulted by anyone on social media, ever no one's ever said anything that's ever insulted me. It's either true or it's funny never mate. I know it's true it's true or it's funny.
Speaker 3:TikTok's the worst mate, like I remember, like we don't, I don't know podcasting here, mate. So I go, mate, it's ruthless like I went down. It's not even funny, right, I says right, my first client, my first ever coaching client that I ever had, he hung himself. Right, he's dead Because you know what's going to come here. Right, and it was like a serious podcast, mate, and I put it on TikTok mate, and someone commented you must have been some coach.
Speaker 2:And I was like, like what the fuck? That's ruthless mate.
Speaker 3:They were going at it like it must have been some coach. No, no, it's here.
Speaker 1:And like people, just fuck them on and rip them. That's people's like wee place to go.
Speaker 3:I can get saved but people were coming at me and being like I'm sorry about that, like I hope you're alright. No, after that, no like. But I know there are the type of people that probably would have seen that and like took it really bad to heart, you know but like I don't and never have but but a cooter could very easily tip people over the edge, I think.
Speaker 1:But like for stuff, like I suppose you need to, you need to understand like people, like no one is there, like I didn't have him insult me, like I just like I don't, I genuinely Do not give A fuck. I know I don't care what anyone says or thinks, I can't.
Speaker 3:Took me a long time To get to that point.
Speaker 1:My brother would put me on Like here's your seat. Fuck, I was like I don't care.
Speaker 3:I'm mad, yeah, I'm mad.
Speaker 1:He's right, he's true. He's telling the truth, fuck relax, don't be jumping in, just relax, don't be jumping in and then. I don't know how the fuck you do I go.
Speaker 3:I don't care it took me a long time to get the appointment and a lot of channeling therein. But I think, to be honest with you, like I wouldn't care. Like when I went to Australia I was putting up like videos talking all mate, like, but see like, like years ago, mate, I would never have done anything like see like a podcast, nothing like I couldn't imagine it, mate. But I was more worried about the people in my proximity. You know what I mean. Yeah, like, say, like in the gym or like training or um, like my mates or whatever. I was more worried about what they would think because they don't do what I do. You know what I mean. Like, even like, when I had done the mental health event, like, um, I got invited to tedx talks after because the organizer, tedx, was speaking at the event. Yeah, and it was a big opportunity for me. No, I mean like I got to meet like high up people and really nice people, people that could help me with the next events and support me.
Speaker 3:And, yeah, take maybe what I'm doing, the, the next level and one of my mates was like fucking, like, ain't they all that mad to have shit for now? Like what's you love? All that shit now? Like as if to say, like get back down to your level. Like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, what the fuck are you doing about it? I know, but Too many people you know could fucking suffer from it or else kill themselves. I know.
Speaker 3:But this is the thing, mate, and it's like you know, and I was talking to a kid about this actually in the old day, because he was kind of in a position where he was struggling with his mates and all he was getting into things and like that's normal, I mean, for a kid, but but I said I said to him like listen, I'm not your dad, like I'm just going to give you advice based on what I've went through. But all I'm going to say to you is this like say, if you have mates around you that when you decide you want to change something in your life for the better and they turn on you or make you feel as if you're doing something wrong, you need to fuck them off like you know what I mean, I can't fuck. It's like I've.
Speaker 1:You probably know as well, as you get older, like your certain old mates get smaller and smaller, like because as you start like, in fairness, I've had the same mates for a long time, like, but I've always done the same thing. I've never. I've always been good at boxing and it's just probably just luck.
Speaker 3:They've always backed you, obviously, but I've always backed you.
Speaker 1:Obviously they've always. Just even when I was drinking, I'm like I'm not drinking, he's not drinking. They wouldn't ask you to drink, they would go fucks, don't you be drinking, don't be drinking, fucks that's good, they've always been that way they're fucking. They've always known that I do it. Yeah, like if someone's asking I don't do it, people, you're full of you do you know?
Speaker 3:like that, like say everyone, hold it, or something everybody wants to make it like oh, he doesn't, he doesn't do it all right, everybody wants to make themselves feel better about what they do and don't. Like you know and I've had, I've had a debate too like and I know how you deal with it as well like obviously having like a platform, no, like yeah, when you get to a certain point, no, the boxing and and what? The podcast. Now, like when I started doing the events and stuff and like the first event went like really well and it sort of like started. You know, it put me in a place where a lot of people were coming to me with opinions and all and I struggled to deal with it.
Speaker 1:Like I was. It's an old thing, we're all boxers. It's like people trying to tell you how to box. It's like maybe my own family. I just go what the fuck up?
Speaker 3:if it was that easy.
Speaker 1:We'd all be going. Jump in and do it, you boxers, you should understand my dad. I'd go. You haven't a clue. Jump in and do it, I'd stand and throw it to you and he'd jump in and dude don't want to hear another word fuck, shit.
Speaker 3:You know that's one of my pet peeves. I hate that mate. I hate people that watch fights and commentate on it. I went to a big Cornwall fight last year.
Speaker 1:I tore down in the Odyssey.
Speaker 3:I was at it myself it was a gag mate after and all I loved Nellie's out there and ran into. I love Nellie's out there mate and running there on.
Speaker 2:Kiefer Crosby. You know it was madness. Kiefer's a fucking gank. Where's the man come?
Speaker 3:it was brilliant, mate, it was good crack, like I loved it. But we went down, mate, and I was in front of this fella, mate, and the fella was like now I didn't look back but the fella was going like he shouldn't be taking him to the ground now he the fuck. And your man's going like like let the elbow go and all he's going like like shoot, noise, like things and like get your hand underneath his chest and all like slip on slip on, slip on a dick twist and he's going.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's sitting going like it's constant in my fucking head and I just turn around and I was like you fuck up, and he goes. Well, I looked at him, mate, and it was him. His beard was like like a goth or something. He was fucking. He was sitting there like he glasses and all like about 9 stone mate, and I'm like I'm like seriously, like some people just, but that annoys me, like even if I he's probably just one of them, ones that sits in his man's back room just going, he's shit, he's that fucking Harry be him
Speaker 1:playing UFC 2025 knows everything I'm doing. I remember cutting fuck and he'd be like a long hair full of he's cards.
Speaker 3:R1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1, r1.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, I love to see you Putting Stevie Kelvin in Stevie Mate.
Speaker 3:I got to the point when he just Went to all places. He didn't even Come in the apartment. Mate Iraq was a gag mate and see anything In the face wrong?
Speaker 1:Holy fuck mate it was like People give you Fault on tactics, they're shooting tactics At the screens Like our lads and all like no fucking about it's 70.
Speaker 3:I was like, coming in, going, like he should have done this, he should have done that and I'm like fucking you go tell him.
Speaker 2:What did he tell me for?
Speaker 1:oh, you get it. That's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, aye, like I always, when they're rocking, drink like yeah, fuck me see, on Sunday, when they're rocking, it's blow-ins because of Rebel Sunday and all that I've done it every Rebel Sunday for a year. People come up.
Speaker 1:I used to go there all the time. A few times a big squad came in from Armagh and were like fuck's wrong, we're going. All culties were grabbing me and were buying me drinks and one of them was fucking shadowboxing me and I was like fuck, fuck, get me away from here. But all my mates were laughing, pushed me in no leg, no milk I was going lads don't dare do my fucking thing.
Speaker 1:Around my day they're just fucking mothers. And the cat coming down and it's grabbing me again and Stevie and all was pushing me in, going go get him and I'll get them. And I was going, fuck, they're torturing me. And he kept going, oh, no, like sparm me. He's going, oh, sparm me. No, he's black, he's wearing a jay top and he kept doing it every time he went down the bus fuck it about four pence deep. I was like are you?
Speaker 2:kidding me, fuck it bone body shot. He was rolling about the floor, mate, fuck sake.
Speaker 3:I done, I done. The night of Tiesto was on and I don't know why. Mate Four cultures. Mate Rocked up to the rack In a taxi. Mate After Tiesto.
Speaker 2:And I was like, who the fuck?
Speaker 3:Who the fuck Goes to the rack. After a rave. So you know, dingus, he was on mate and he was there and he and one of the boys was messing about mate. But this boy was like a cutty about 9 foot mate. I was going what the fuck man? Your man was like just bouncing about. It's just not the way you behave in Iraq. You know what I mean, you know. Iraq it's just it's a bar, it's a pub like this you don't go into Iraq on a barney Like Brian Cartman Tears.
Speaker 2:Floating about the floor.
Speaker 3:But I Wait, I I was just in In the bar and next thing A fella come and grab me, goes there, can you go out the front? Out the front. And a big name food cult. He made land on the floor Out cold and the thing is To stand and I'm going.
Speaker 1:Holy fuck, I was mental Like but some of them boys were hard as fuck you don't even realise, you don't know who you're talking to. Half the time it was a fella from Scotland. He hit Dingus in the hair of a bottle and he had to leave the country the next day.
Speaker 2:I swear to fuck. I had to have him. He's like careful Dingus got in the hair of a bottle. He still makes his fucking 21 he's doing his door in Iraq.
Speaker 1:Some fave in Scotland fucking hit him in the head with a bat and he didn't know who Dingus was, and the next day he had to leave a company. Leave a company in my eyes, I uh.
Speaker 3:I, mate, I, uh, I remember like I'd done the Sloan's and all a couple of times, like a load of times as well, after doing Iraq, and like, mate, I'm threatening to get shot every week, like it was a gig mate.
Speaker 1:I had no power people when I got in, all I did was sit there and say is that?
Speaker 3:not the SD, you'll do Fuck off, mate, and like you weren't put out, like it was like I wrap his door more and I'm like fuck, it's just, I had to leave mate. I couldn't do it, mate. I was like this All these boys from Dublin come in, mate with gold chains and all they all start murder. You don't know who they are, you don't know who they are.
Speaker 1:You don't hear a deal with them, you get involved in shit you don't want to be involved in, with people you don't even know who they are.
Speaker 3:And they probably don't know where they are either.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:But that's Belfast, West Belfast 100%.
Speaker 1:That's it In like. If you, in the terms of your hangers with Sloane's on the rack, anyone could say that they're not barred.
Speaker 3:No matter who you are man.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. Lads. People could get off a bus, run and stop at the rack. Go ahead, there's 50 of them in you don't know who the fuck they are, but they'll not forget them if they do get barred.
Speaker 3:That that's the thing, but like they'd never forget a face like they'd never forget a face. I know like just random people mate, they probably haven't been in like three years, but they rock up, be like like I went to Australia mate for two like over two years mate, and I came back and like six months into me being home, went to Iraq and I met Tommy and we rocked down and one of the boys was like where have you been? Like out there, as if, like he was like you've been away for a week.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen you in a wee.
Speaker 1:While I was like been away for two years living in a different country he goes been two years, was I?
Speaker 3:he goes fuck it. Don't feel like two years and I was like it's because you've been sitting in a rack every day.
Speaker 1:I haven't changed what have.
Speaker 3:Well, like it's just one big day for him.
Speaker 1:It's not a big, no, it's just a big, just the whole thing is the same cycle, I could. Like.
Speaker 2:Jamie Elliott down the fucking. There's a bookie on the. I walked into Ocean Beach on my fucking.
Speaker 1:I walked into Ocean Beach on my stag, all the lads were all down on the table. I walked in, looked down, seen Victor.
Speaker 2:Broby, harold and see me. I walked in, looked down, seen Vicar, brought me a hot on the shimmy shimmy and I went down to the next floor.
Speaker 3:He was like go ahead, shimmy.
Speaker 2:Elliot, there's a cold in the shimmy. Elliot, there's a holiday. Every time I shimmy, he whispered into my ear because he had the wee top. Because he had the wee top, I brought me a. Whispered into my ear shimmy Elliot.
Speaker 3:I don't know if he was running the back here, sherry Elliott, More like Dengis McGee. I remember, man, I remember it was grand night's night. He must have done 20,000 steps. I remember what the fuck. I remember when he fucking bats his own eagles. I remember I'm stuck. One of the boys Lost a bat. Do you know what I mean? But he didn't lose a bat. No, he wasn't. He was too late getting up.
Speaker 1:No, one dug it and it was a winner.
Speaker 3:And it was a winner. And he got back and he just started slapping it Like Are you fucking serious? No, I, what the fuck? I had to stab him, stabbing and all like turn the door like and I was like fuck shit and then.
Speaker 1:I was like sorry, don't fuck see you last week in our football chat, one of the lads wrote in lads, I have a good way for all of us to make money, for all of us to make money.
Speaker 1:If you want to get involved, tax me privately so everyone was like Fucking 90 masses In this and that Football group chat. So I was like Fuck, see what they Talked about. And then we're all Hanging back and Forward, back and Forward. All these boys From like Iraq and all All the lads Got on with someone To put money On a horse. It was start to win. So they were ringing him. So when he well, anyway, all the lads in our group chat loaded him dead tax saying what is it now? What is it? And he told him I'm getting a tip here, I'm getting a big tip here at a big price from all the other lads from Iraq, they were like, alright, happy days, as soon as you get it. He said as soon as you get it. Let. The wee man who got the was getting attempted to the bat for all the other lads fell asleep.
Speaker 2:So they phoned him and he woke up and the horse won 22 to 1. They're all going fucking nuts. He woke up with, sadly, two missed calls. He was like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:they sat in the tent.
Speaker 2:He felt just like no one to get on the horse. It was 22 to 1 oh fuck fucking hell. I, I, I fuck man. He says you make it fucking leave a country as well. He's a scallop, he's a brain of fuck, or is that what he called it?
Speaker 3:he's an Aberdeen. They live with me in some bar he don't fuck a fella sleepy.
Speaker 1:She woke up and says he has a mountain oh, mate, I fuck horse racing.
Speaker 3:Mate, like I never, I never done horses. Like I didn't have a clue, mate. But I remember when I came home from Australia, mate, I didn't tell my family I was coming home. I told my uncle and my uncle organised a dinner in Baggots. No, like I was like fuck sake, I mean, come back from fucking Bondi Beach, go to Baggots. And I went up, mate, no, to sit in the next bar, so sit in the main bar to wait on my family. They were next door having dinner. I was going to walk in surprising mate, and I, I swear to God, like it's funny, but like it was fucking. It was actually really depressing. I sat there and all the boys Like it was like a Thursday afternoon Mate, all the lads and doing horse bets and I sit there Looking at them Like going, what have I done? Like I've come home and it's my worst nightmare. It's my worst nightmare Come true and I had to go in and pretend to be all happy.
Speaker 2:In. I was like oh fuck, we like.
Speaker 1:I grew up fucking like. We hung around about these like going up, it was PJ McCartney at the time and Turf I see like. And then obviously when I started like running about in St James's, they'd run about. They just hung about in a book he's like and Sean Grant, the one I'm waiting for, happened. The reason like I don't, I have no like you have no interest in horses, dogs. We bought a dog like called bang bang gravy chip.
Speaker 3:It was a bullet scrapper my first dog was called Celtic so I love it.
Speaker 2:My first dog was called dog. It was called it was Matty and Irish it was dog. Oh fuck, we, we, we. We were doing bats now.
Speaker 1:I used to like when I we were doing bets. And I started doing bets here and there we fucking 250 dog bets and 250 horses and all, and they knew we were back in jail and they knew all of Jack and his new phone and I had no clue, me and Mario Howard and him, we were just getting involved and like fuck it, go and go and find Rachel on this. Well, no, like one of you think I'm a fucking Start a gamble now.
Speaker 2:And then Best thing ever happened we got a blank deck and Marty drew a big ticket To the samples and put like Nine to four on it With that and says he put it up the counter and says Quick, do you Quick? No, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. He pulled it up the counter and says quick, do you have a quick number for me? I was just fucking there, I've been cracking up.
Speaker 3:She fucked me in my head.
Speaker 2:She says you fucking serious.
Speaker 3:She says what are you doing? She says that goes to my head, I was just stupid.
Speaker 2:I was all gammon crew over, so it done us a favour, he ruined it.
Speaker 3:Fuck me, me, mate.
Speaker 2:See, because he runs up and says quick, quick, she does the same machine, not knowing, fuck me.
Speaker 3:Last time I went in there with Brookies mate was the Arthurs fight, I think it was. Who was it he was fighting? Not the last fight. Fight the fight before oh yeah that'd be. Warrington, warrington, I think it was and I went in to do a bet and the fights leaned up, didn't I? I think I asked Rook, or something.
Speaker 3:I asked I was like what's the story here? You know what I mean? We'll do a bet. It was like cert, cert, cert. And I was like great, sweet, happy days. And I got the bet and I was sitting saying to her and I was like cert, here, with money in the bank, you know what I mean, we're sweet. You know what I mean, we'll fucking buy whatever you want. Look how much, mate, we're sweet. And because I don't bet, like I was going to myself, hey, that's going to for me. No, me, I'll get back there. I spent the stock of faiths on me. It was like, say, six pre them faces on me. I was sick for me did you just go?
Speaker 3:fuck, you put down a second or something I never got a game it. I never tossing this again. She was, she was asked me and all going like sure they could, they went the. Can you not take that?
Speaker 1:out now like no, it has to be an accumulator. They'll have to win, fuck's sake, oh.
Speaker 3:I admit and like I used to in my head I admit. So I couldn't take that like I would end up addicted to gambling if I gambled as well.
Speaker 1:I could pay fucking more. For fuck's sake it. But that's an oarhain, like with the mental health, like that's a big silent one, like people wouldn't see that. Like a silent addiction and fucking the people. Like, as you say, people with drugs obviously drugs are one of the biggest things, gambling being another big one and even like injuries, like people getting sustained injuries or car crashes and all Like there's no real Especially athletes.
Speaker 3:Like athletes like see, if athletes get injured it's detrimental to their whole life, like you know what I mean. Like say, you were boxing or something you broke your hand, like it's like detrimental, like you know, and you know I can understand it, but it you know there should be tools in place that you can.
Speaker 1:Boxers are like, I think, the likes of boxers and stuff. We're fucked the worst, not the worst. But like UFC and all, they have fitness centres where they provide stuff like physio and stuff like that boxing on your own For footballers. You've got a club who still pay your wages. We get fucked all. We get absolutely nothing. No, you just pay for it on yourself. Do it on yourself. It has to be done that way.
Speaker 3:You train there in Dublin, don't you?
Speaker 1:on and off, but I'm in Amsterdam with my coach, who's in Amsterdam now, but I go to and from do you notice the difference in the standard of like? The Honestly, depending on where you're training. I believe we've got Jordanstown, they've got Abbottstown, both very similar in terms of high performance on the Irish team. In terms of professional boxing and amateur boxing, belfast smokes it. Yeah, belfast is one of the best cities in the world for the size of it.
Speaker 3:Hyper-capital, hyper-capital capita, it's easy yeah, I noticed that like and I've been talking a lot to Aidan Wells basically- like Aidan's class, like he's some story he's brilliant mate and, like he, he does a lot of work with the, the AIS team, I think as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I don't know, mate, it's what I was saying there about. Like, um, I I don't know, mate, it's what I was saying there, but what you were saying there. But overnight, like you have seen, all they have things in place like physios, yeah, sports psychologists. No, yeah, like me, and we're kind of talking about this like there is a big lack of that and in boxing and in like different sport, like even just different sports in general in ireland, like they don't really, um take that into consideration. So mental health is kind of looked at, in my opinion, as a crisis thing, it's not looked at like a normal everyday bottle.
Speaker 1:Everyone suffers from it at some stage and it's like, how do we treat it on a day to day basis? How do we like all the top footballers in the world? They all suffer from mental health. Whether you like it, they, they all suffer from mental health. Yeah, whether you like it or not, they all do. You're like more of them are starting to speak about it now, but they don't look at it like it's a crisis over there. They just go like right, let's fix it. Yeah, full phone, for example, pep Guardiola just said look, I've sat my whole day with his family and thrown him back and my work on it. He took a step back to my England team. That word said over here, it's like fuck, that's crazy. He shoved me on his team like if you were like imagine you won the Olympics and you went.
Speaker 1:You were on the Olympic team and in the camp on the lead up to the Olympics you were saying you went until a sports psychologist says, oh my, I'm out of office, you need to take a step back here and maybe think about someone else taking the position. You'd be like get the. I'm just saying like I'm yeah, I'm struggling a bit.
Speaker 3:He thought he didn't talk about that a wee bit to me. Like he said about the struggles of the pressure he was under and all for the olympics, not there and like even you know, saying was it worth it or not? No, he'll tell his story. Obviously, like I think he'll be coming to the next event and he'll be telling a story and it's important that people know that, because the problem is now is that people think mental health is all like the suicide, as in like as soon as I say the word mental health, you probably already think suicide yeah, it's the first thing you think, whereas, like, it's not always Suicide, it can be stress, it can be like, people project mental health as well, like so see, like People who are just Like naturally violent or you know, like harassed people or who are, you know, just destructive in general To society, they're projecting Obviously some kind of Mental health issue.
Speaker 3:You know so. And Even growing up, like we were talking about like don't get me wrong some belt our stories and like about the whack and all like, but like boys about the whack, when we were growing up, like they all had mental health problems but we obviously took it as humour, like no, I mean, that's why we're all thick skinned.
Speaker 1:You know what they say Irish people are thick skinned, belfast people are thick skinned. It's like I think we're fucks it.
Speaker 3:We're not going there, we tend to turn to humour yeah quickly, you know what I mean like we turn everything in and there's nothing wrong with that it's actually not a bad coping mechanism but like there should be more, not just awareness of issues, but like tools that you can use. So, like you know, without making it too fluffy and too, I see what I see like, for example, like everyone looks at you know people that do breath work and people that do like inner work. They look at them as like hippies and all, and I mean like growing up you'd be like, oh fucking, that's weird. I go to yoga and I used to go fucking.
Speaker 3:I grew up and then go to emo bridge after with a card but I I used to think it's like weird shit, it's not normal.
Speaker 3:And then when I looked into it because I would be deep thinking about things when I looked into it, I seen the benefits of it, of each of them, like breath work, even therapy, looking at childhood, childhood trauma, and like behaviours and behaviour patterns and all like I've obviously lost a lot of mates to suicide and all and like like I dealt with it. I dealt with it not really the same way as what most people would like, I just I done. I helped people that come out of like recovery and the first thing they turn to is god, you know like you know they're.
Speaker 3:They're really into the bible and they're into jesus and christianity and that's good. Like, see, if that helps you, like far away, no problem. Like I'm not against that, but I, I I don't see the benefit in that for me as in like getting obsessed over one thing that you need to cling on to to help you. Like, yeah, I'd rather have multiple tools in my tool belt, like, for example, if I'm stressed, you know turning the breath work, or if I'm really thinking, like really negative thoughts you know going to address like a journal and like seeing, like right, where's this coming from?
Speaker 1:and identifying that, but doing it in a way where, like it sounds mad but where, like people from about our whack can can understand it and accept it in a way that it like, if you don't feel it's weird, if you just feel like if it's benefiting you, it's not weird. That's why, like it's something you're doing, it's not it's benefiting you, and fuck everyone else like it's not weird. If it's not weird to you, it's not weird to anyone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but that was the whole point of the events and stuff like really really hard to normalize. You know, I mean like because we, because like growing up belfast diary, anywhere, like working class, you know deprived day, degree and well, that is deprived. But um, you grow up in like survival mode. No, I mean you're constantly and you're like you're masking in sort of energy, like, as people would say, like you're always like alert, like you're always on on guard. You're always worrying about you know, like you're always on guard, you're always worrying about you know where's money coming from, where's the next step coming from. You know how am I going to provide?
Speaker 1:Like you're always in that You're just trying to get by. You're always thinking how can I get by?
Speaker 3:Yeah, survival movement and you're always in that. So things like inner work and breath work and all that, you and breath work and all that, you don't have a time to look at that. So you got the quick fix. So you either went drinking or you went training and that was your quick fix to help you cope with that, because you're constantly in that survival mode and I believe, in my opinion, a lot of people live in that mode of survival of where's my next meal coming from? Where's my next paycheck coming from? Am I going to fuck things?
Speaker 1:up. What do people think about me? Pressure just pressure of life. You wouldn't describe it as pressure.
Speaker 3:It's normal, it's normal and that was for me a big thing because obviously you know it was people I cared about were suffering with it and people were dying with it and I watched it out of my mates and stuff growing up kind of go down a route of like really heavy drugs and drink and just you know, and I knew why they were doing it too because you know they were never it's all the new mate they were never taught how to do things like that, you know and then, so you're, have you another date for your, for your next mental health so we're doing one at Balmoral hotel on October 11th.
Speaker 3:Right, he'll be during the day, so probably be like 10am to 4pm brilliant. We've got a few guests coming up from Dublin. On the last one with him, ryan Curtis came up. He was brilliant. He's coming up this one as well.
Speaker 1:That's an interesting thing I was saying about injuries. There's people who suffer in all different ways. You know what I mean. So it'd be good to fuck and I'll pop out that with myself because obviously he'd see the last one and he'd know that it was on. And Ryan told me I'm doing the podcast because I've got something else on that day or something and we're trying to talk and I was like what is it? And then he told me, rana told me, and I was like fuck, I didn't realise. I was like fuck, I didn't know it was on.
Speaker 3:It was, mate, I didn't expect it to be as big as it was, like it was like 250 at it. But like in my head, like he told me, like in my head I was going to myself speak in public for the first time and I was like fuck, it was just like high functioning anxiety, mate. It was like just get in there and do it, kind of thing. The hard part was kind of over. But it's what's important to me about the events, because I've got to meet Mudderwaterfront next week so we're hopefully getting an R1 in the waterfront and then a few R venues set up and uh, like it was. It's important to me that it stays true to the vision and stays real the whole time yeah, like every event, it doesn't turn into something that's not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you want to keep control of it that way, because it is like it is what it is what you want it to be. You're in control of it, like you know. I mean, um, I know guests have a have an influx on what, like, who, who they attract, but yeah, at the end of the day, the message has to be the same. Where would you get tickets at?
Speaker 3:so the tickets haven't been released yet, but they'll be on my page. Redefining the Alpha. So that's the name of the event Redefining the Alpha.
Speaker 1:So either on your social pages.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just on my social pages. They'll be out, so they'll be released, hopefully within the next week or two happy days.
Speaker 1:Eh, look, you know where to go Balmoral Hotel that day, october 11th October 11th. Balmoral Hotel. Get yourselves there. Get yourself onto the Alpha Males Instagram. Get yourself tickets and you might even see me, who knows, talking ballics. Listen cheers for coming on. Hi, see me. Get you cheers for coming on. I appreciate it cheers man thanks.