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The Public Nuisance Podcast
Host Sean McComb interviews various guests
The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #044 “Dogs Danglers” with Aaron Butler
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Comedian, Aaron Butler to the podcast.
We cover fluffier, 5 a side, playing padel, throwing golf balls, school fights, Rampage Jackson, boxing v mma, dogs dangers and much more
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Speaker 2:Porn. You want to do some porn in here? I've seen earlier when I came in the pop shots going off in here I told you. I love to say it. That's why I'm here I wasn't meant to be a guest. I was a fluffer, good, but I might as well just use me. You're distracted by the noise, that's that poltergeist again, sorry I ruined your introduction. No, I'm glad to have you you don't need any introduction I appreciate that this will be your lowest rate of episode, but it's good to be here.
Speaker 2:It's good to be here.
Speaker 1:My favourite footballer Me. Yeah, I don't know why, I just enjoy playing football. Oh, and 5 a 7 we play 5 a 7.
Speaker 2:I thought you were referring to the charity games that we play. I know I didn't play in the last one. That was the one. Why not? I was in Dubai gigging mate. I was. I was asked to play and I fucking Do you know what. I know where I'd rather be, but it was one of those ones. Even though I was in Dubai gigging, living it up, having a great wee time, it was still like you have that wee FOMO when you're having this Like the camaraderie.
Speaker 1:The lads.
Speaker 2:I played in the year before the game and that, and everyone made fun of how I ran, but that's okay thank you, mate.
Speaker 1:And what you done then was you took up running.
Speaker 2:That's a sport, like we were talking about that on the way up, like I trained for the marathon. That's why I love like West Belfast, because they like keep you humble and the fucking like I liked it when they take the piss out of you and like I'd be running the roads and I looked like a fucking state, like I was like maybe 20k and fucking huffing, puffing, like basically walking at a running pace and people would just shout out the window chair, beeper horn to call you a dickhead and you're like yeah, and I'm like that's what's all about.
Speaker 2:I'm like fucking, yeah, the worst one I ever had was there was like two boys in a van who were, you know, just eating their lunch in the van.
Speaker 2:They must have been like doing, was it the beehive they were getting worked on, or something or they were just having their pants on their lunch could be, but I was running up that fucking road to the beehive and I could literally just see them do this and just following me, but they had the finger on the Snapchat thing, so they were obviously putting me on their Snapchat and I was like, oh, fuck's sake, lads, I'm like I'm just trying to better myself.
Speaker 1:At least tag me, at least tag me.
Speaker 2:I was raging like at the time but aye, we play Five Aside together. I like, when we play Five Aside together, we don't do it. That often be a good thing, because as we get older, I I'm starting to retire from five aside, like I I am. You have your time, you have your wee window of opportunity and then you just gotta. You gotta know when to hang it up yeah, I don't want to be one of these old boys that are. Like you know, you're playing with the 50 year old man.
Speaker 1:You have to be careful around him and all yeah, people are like scared to tackle him and stuff yeah, yeah, you're a good wee player, but you're, but you, I think you're just natural at all sports.
Speaker 2:I feel like you could just pick up anything and be good at it.
Speaker 1:I've been good at most sports that I've done. That have been alright, like most sports obviously boxing but I played all sports when I was younger I played football, played gillick, played hurling boxing, played handball you don't play boxing mate. No, you don't play boxing, watch yourself.
Speaker 2:Now you're in with the analyst right now you know what I mean, correct? Did you ever win any sports day medals?
Speaker 1:a lot that's my one regret.
Speaker 2:I never won a fucking single sports day medal. I didn't even sniff a third place, like got nowhere near it couldn't do fuck all beanbag toss.
Speaker 1:I cleaned up and most stuff like in school I was very athletic what school?
Speaker 2:what's that? What school did?
Speaker 1:you go to college, to first year or man's school, college to first year, right right, but I'd have cleaned up most sports just from being so sporty like you know, fucking but like it doesn't like it's mad because when you look back now you go. It was so. You're always competitive in everything you do. Everything you do it just brings out. We can pat it in the city, even if it's like golf. I play golf. I've never took a golf lesson in my life and I can play golf okay, it's one sport I've never touched how did you learn it?
Speaker 2:you just take.
Speaker 1:I just started swinging yeah, like I'm not saying I play off like a 5 or 6 but I play off a decent handicap for someone that's never took a lesson before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what about racket sports? What are we talking about Pickle?
Speaker 1:paddle badminton tennis.
Speaker 2:I want to get you into my world.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know, man, man, we play at paddles around the corner. There's actually a big paddle place around the corner here, yeah yeah, yeah, in Ballyclure I think they might have Indoor or indoor. Both. We didn't know. We sort of half the court, right, I found this very you half the court, we halved the court, right, because they're doubles courts, but you played singles on it. Yep, we played singles and spin around, but it was competitive.
Speaker 2:Right, okay.
Speaker 1:Because you have a smaller target that reach within the other side of the court. Yeah, I mean, that means you're not running all. It's too easy to score on a double court when singles are playing.
Speaker 2:Yes, so they've no singles courts. They've no singles courts. See the singles courts in let's Go Hydro, who have their let's Go Paddle, they call it. They have singles courts. It's the same company. Oh is it. Oh is it, let's go Harry? Oh, yes, because yes, it is all right. They have the singles courts down in Cary Duff they have. Moira has the singles courts as well. I've played on those. It's better because you still get like all four walls. Yeah, if you're playing halfers. How?
Speaker 1:you don't have it.
Speaker 2:Thrilling podcast content, by the way, guys, for the listeners. I'm sure they always wanted to know how doubles paddle worked on a single chord.
Speaker 1:But you can stay tuned because listen, you're learning, you'll learn, you need to learn the trade right plus, there are a few guests invited. There's a chain that's inviting guests.
Speaker 2:Oh, he has his own paddle thing it started with Paul that they're doing. I mean, I don't know too much about it, I was just the. I don't think I can spoil who won or lost yet, but let's just say I can't wait for it to come out. Let's just say I'm not bothered at all what footage to put out there. Now, to be fair, we were playing against a very older man on the opposite team, so it's not a victory I can take pride in. It's like Jake Paul beating Tyson. You can't take pride in the victory, take all victory.
Speaker 1:You're like no, take the pride. I know he went home and we're like fucking yes, I got out of the bastard. Yeah, fucking sports day medals. He don't want them.
Speaker 2:He don't want them anyway, cbs, not a fucking medal got snipped out of sports day for me, like.
Speaker 1:I was fucking shit, what age are you now 36, 36.
Speaker 2:36? Going 37 in April, so still a while away.
Speaker 1:Fuck, he would have been a year younger than my brother in CBS. Who's your brother? Liam McComb.
Speaker 2:Never, never He'd be 38. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Would Bernie be your age? He was in my year. Oh, they are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'll tell you what I remember about him Very little, by the way, and also I don't want this to be a reflection of the man that he's turned into.
Speaker 1:Fuck him.
Speaker 2:Fuck you birthday. What I remember is I remember in first year everyone just used to go, because you know you go to a new school. I came from St Kevin's, went to CBS and fucking CBS was an all-boys school so I used to mix them with girls and stuff and whatever. I had this fucking musical theatre, like you know what I mean, the, the. But I remember going to cbs and they were like that's bounty. And I was like who the fuck's bounty? And they were like just don't go near him. And I was like right, okay, and you just, there was just a an aura off him of like, uh, he get he's trouble, like he could fuck you up a little bit. So yeah, I think he got expelled.
Speaker 1:I might be wrong saying that. No, he probably did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I hope he's well now he's fine Taxian.
Speaker 1:Taxian. Taxian Good has a wee school run going Good. That's great. Still doesn't spend any money. He's definitely a miserable boss At Liptonshire.
Speaker 2:He's one of them ones.
Speaker 1:No, when the bill comes out, he's ready to toilet right, right, right.
Speaker 2:Good, I'm glad to hear he's doing well and I'm glad that he's not getting expelled from anywhere anymore and yeah, but I remember him vaguely but he wasn't in my class or anything. He was just in the year that had like that whole. You know they used to do like here's the smart people class they used to like and they?
Speaker 2:I know it was real class, but I don't know if they still do that these days, but it was real like oh, 8 A's the smart ones. Ah, you're, you're fucking, yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was the man school like that, were they Nah?
Speaker 1:our class was fairly mixed Right, was it boys, girls, boys and girls? Okay, but yeah, I had like Some Fucking Absolute Lunatics in our class and then some really quiet smart people.
Speaker 2:What category do you fit into at this?
Speaker 1:point in your life. I was somewhere in the middle. You know what I feel like I was the how would I say it the liaison between the lunatics and the quiet people. I was like I bonded them.
Speaker 2:You know I was like I was friendly with the quiet people yeah, yeah, you were the interface zone in your school.
Speaker 1:I was a bit of a lunatic myself, but I was a friendly lunatic to the ones who weren't lunatics, gotcha, so they liked me yeah. Whereas they would have hated a lot of the other people who maybe done a bit of bullying or a bit of slapping or a bit of slaying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always interacted with both. Yeah, and they loved that. Do you know? So, like nice, the people who they were called nerds, the nerds love me. Yeah, I feel so. Anyway, maybe they're watching this when I hear that. Yeah, listen, I appreciate the honesty. You can always tell me I don't mind your perception's always different, but I I always feel like I was somewhere in the middle and I was always like I wasn't quiet by any means absolutely.
Speaker 1:In a way I was that quiet, but I didn't, I didn't, you know, I wouldn't have said I'm bad to them, I would have jumped around with them still and, like, brought them in a wee bit of crack. I mean, I'm against. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I was super quiet, like I was the quietest kid. I never talked in class, I was just always. But I think that was because I had like a fear of like just my meh beating my ball out of the sand if I ever fucking stepped out of line. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 2:She had me well like you fucking, well worn. You're representing your family in school, like, don't you?
Speaker 1:be the dead.
Speaker 2:you know what I mean. I was like okay, fucking, you know. So yeah, I was always well disciplined. Did they Pitch and toss? And I don't know if they did this in yours, but they used to just fling golf balls, do you know? Is this only a thing that happened in my school? Let me just yes.
Speaker 1:Man, I swear to God you'd be standing in the yard. Pitch and toss, at least you can win, mummy, golf balls are just. Oh, everyone's a loser in this.
Speaker 2:But it was. You'd be standing just eating your lunch and then you'd just sing, ding, ding, it would bounce off everything. But then you'd get it and you'd lob it back. Everyone just lobbed the golf ball and then you'd hear a window smash and then that was it. Stop. Or like a teacher would come out in the yard and be like who's got the golf ball? Blah, blah, blah. But I don't know what every fucking week, like it was a golf ball could be golf balls from the Germans, stolen from Columb Valley, probably.
Speaker 1:I think they were.
Speaker 2:I swear to God, it was just like, yeah, it was a war zone at times, but crack like I got hit in the head before with an orange right.
Speaker 1:This is not even joking right. We were in the artistry yard and these like upper six or lower six were at the top of the yard and they were all falling. And there was this fella in my classroom. He's a singer now, sean O'Kinn. He was in my year in school, sean O'Kinn right? No one knows this baby.
Speaker 2:I don't think Sean O'Kinn knows this before you proceed was it peeled or unpeeled?
Speaker 1:it was unpeeled, it was a full, full orange. Like alright, okay, and uh, I was talking to him and then I turned, he went watch and I turned round and I just fell boom in the back of my head. I turned round and I thought he dug me right. I thought he punched me because the thought of it you would, because he went watch. When I turned round, boom, I turned back and he was running. I was like what the fuck just happened.
Speaker 1:So you thought so I was like I thought he cracked me so I chased him. And then I look back and seen the orange splattered all over the floor, a big orange.
Speaker 2:I was like do you feel it in your head? Do you feel like a wee bit of juice, or?
Speaker 1:anything, nah, just it was like a shack.
Speaker 2:It was just like.
Speaker 1:I was almost like it was dazed me a fucking orange would not proper hurt like it was them and like swung a kick forward. I was like what are you doing? And then they were all lobbing, like lower six were lobbing, like I was like Jesus, I was going to fucking crack him it just shows you like I would fucking, I'd be writing solo.
Speaker 2:Did you ever get into like a fist fight in school, like once or twice you have? I never got into any of them once. Daphne, I watched them.
Speaker 1:I watched them, refereed them, refereed the Irvine like boys. So I can break it up, get the gum shoes. You know what I mean keep it fair.
Speaker 2:No, the I remember the worst used to be the fights used to happen in the boys schools and people would just like spit on them. That was the worst used to be. The fights used to happen in the boys schools and people would just like spit on them. That was the worst.
Speaker 1:I heard it. No, that never happened in our school but, like all my friends, went to CBS. It was actually a school that I wanted to go to and my dad would never allow me to go.
Speaker 2:But I remember like they were all going like hacking on people, like proper dirty hacking, while we're fighting the worst part was I remember seeing a few of them and there was two boys fighting and I remember the heckles were that bad that their faces were covered, and I mean like there was one guy that had like big heckles coming out of his eyeball and mate, I swear sorry for anyone that's listening it's getting grossed out by that, but I have to fucking live with it.
Speaker 2:Tonight you do too, but it was fucking wild and I remember one of the most brutal fights I've ever. Start by that, but I had to fucking live with it. So now you do too, but it was. It was fucking white and I remember one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen was in the school days and it was two boys in third. I was in third year two, two boys in my year one, but I'm not gonna name names because I don't want. They probably have names and stuff now, whatever.
Speaker 2:But they probably have names back then too one was bounty, one was nah, it wasn't, it was anxiety. But there were, and I've actually googled these boys as well Since I've left and they're still Bad bastards Like. I remember One guy Was, he was you know, he was a taller guy and he was always A wee bit full of himself and he was always Like fucking, you know, giving it bravado Like and giving it bravado like and giving it like would look to start a fight type guy like he would like sort of bully the wee kids a wee bit and be like you know, if you were shorter than like fucking, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's a bit of a wanker.
Speaker 2:And so there was this other guy who was just, he was stone-faced like, he was like introverted in himself, like fucking, but you could tell he was also a bad bastard, like. And this guy just fucking grabbed the tall guy one day and just threw him to the ground, got him to the ground and see, when he was on the ground, his head was up against the fence. Your man just started laying boots into him and his head was whacking off the fence as he was laying and he just about four or five boots into this boy's head and we're all just watching it, like about to watch a murder tape or take place Trauma test.
Speaker 2:Go on it was, but it was one of the most like I fucking. I watched boxing, I watch MMA, but I've still not seen anything as vicious as that, yeah, because it's in the street as well and it's young.
Speaker 1:You're young, it's probably you can't stop it.
Speaker 2:There's no adults around you're like how does this end stop you? Don't want to be the one to be like you were getting it, I'm a ring girl for it. The fat needle advertisement. I had no, I had no choice like but yeah, fuck, so you didn't really get into many fights.
Speaker 1:One one, just I can remember one and the guy I would be friendly with now I'll say, one big guy played football, like he played ice league and stuff. He's a year younger than us in school and we were playing football and stuff. He's a year younger than us in school and we were playing football and I barged him over, like we had a wee bank in our school, and I barged him over it and he got up and swung a kick at me and I just went boom, boom, one, two and just put him in his hole and then Were you boxing training from a young age.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had my first fight when I was eight. Yeah, so I had like three fights when I was eight.
Speaker 2:I do some MMA commentating for a promotion called Gladiator. It's run by a guy called Danny Core who's like a MMA coach or whatever, but you see the young kids do their fights on the like they sort of put the kids in at the start to do a bit of a warm-up.
Speaker 2:And these kids are like, like you say, 8, 9, 10 years old and they're not allowed to do head strikes. Obviously they can do wrestling, some grappling basic grappling. They're not allowed to do like big kicks or anything like that. When you see these kids, like it's mad.
Speaker 1:You know what? Like MMA is a fairly new sport yeah, yeah, yeah, in terms of like when you think of 1994, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is when it all sort of started. You're still talking 30-odd years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so a lot of people who are competing now at a high level started late, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, do you know what I mean? Absolutely, that's just Shane McGregor.
Speaker 2:And we know he's a dickhead, but he started MMA at a very late age oh yeah, like 1920 or something like that. Look how good or fitter he was. Brock Lesnar as well. Like Brock Lesnar, even though he came from a wrestling background. Like you know, he only took his first MMA training seriously at about 25 26 ended up becoming heavyweight champion, like 4 years later like in boxing. That's just not possible?
Speaker 1:No, that's what I mean. But if you think of the MMA, now what they're going to be like, because they're starting so young, as you say.
Speaker 2:My son.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get him in the Fed Academy when he's five. He's four. Now I'm going to do the grappling.
Speaker 2:By the way, just before you move on, one of the funniest fucking things that you've ever done, I think, and something I think and something I don't know when you'd done it, if it was like three, four years ago or maybe it was around COVID or whatever, but your son was really young and you were. You were teasing him, calling him Boris Mate. He's Boris Johnson, fucking 10 out of 10. And it was just the way you were doing it.
Speaker 2:He was crying, you're going Boris and he doesn't even, but he's in fucking tears and then you're videoing him and he's got like the blonde hair and I'm like there's wee bars and I'm like oh, I think it's just because it reminded me of something my dad would probably make fun of me about when I was that age. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:a lot of people don't do that. No more, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I think we were privileged to have parents like that who would he would like just rip the bag out of you, people go to me like you're fucking terrible.
Speaker 1:You torture it like women would stop me and go. You're terrible. Leave him alone. I go wait, he's alright, I'd kick him and I'd be like come on you, that's cool.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah, because the love's there and you can have that bit of crack, I think that's how you become thick skinned though, like it's character building. Yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:It's productive what we're doing now for later life.
Speaker 2:You're going to be the fucking next Rampage Jackson and head son whenever fucking. Do you see all that stuff? No, I've seen that. I don't fucking know.
Speaker 1:Some people. I think people just take it up. You know what People? Just I don't think people know how to be a parent A lot, know how to be a parent a lot of times when it's tough, I'd imagine, like you know, like, see, with me, with my son, I I've changed so much in terms of my thought process and what I thought I was going to be like yeah, I thought I was going to be like I was going to get my son the football, get him in the lake.
Speaker 1:I'm going to push him into sports and I wanted to be. I want to be in sports.
Speaker 2:So much, but I want to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's four.
Speaker 2:I know I want him to do whatever he wants, he's four, I know I want him to do whatever he wants to do, I know, and people go.
Speaker 1:Do you want your son to box? I don't care if he does. Ballerina yeah, just be good at it, yeah, yeah yeah, be passionate about it, be happy, yeah, that's all I don't want. Like this may sound bad, but see if. Or doing anything and he's crap at it aye really. Or else do something or get better yeah, because you're making a cunt of yourself. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2:You're like you are fucking diabolical at this yeah, you have to let them try for a wee bit and then figure it out, like if they like it or not.
Speaker 1:There's some people like, let's say like see boxing, for example, or some people here really like people here, professional fighters right, they're going to war, yeah. Like they're really sacrificing so much, oh yeah, and they're not going to get anything in the turn. I know what right. They're not good enough.
Speaker 2:Right, so they've reached their Like they've reached their potential.
Speaker 1:They can't get any.
Speaker 2:And so it frustrates you to say it.
Speaker 1:And it's not frustrating. It's just like Do you feel bad for them? I feel like yeah, I just feel like going like Mate.
Speaker 2:Knock it in.
Speaker 1:What's your? What's your? What do you want to see from this Like? What do you like? What do you want from this sport?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's not good.
Speaker 1:Do you Like professional boxing? It's not a good sport.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:It's corrupt. Yeah, first of all, you're getting punched in the head.
Speaker 2:it's dangerous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's grueling, it's sacrifice from what are you getting at this? You're not even going to win a fucking, a small, small title.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you're not going to get paid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, even if you win a small title, you still don't get paid.
Speaker 2:And what age would someone be like that that you're thinking about, that Like, would they be young in the sport or would they be?
Speaker 1:people my age. There's people and they're sparring and they're getting hit repeatedly and I'm like why do they do this? I'll have this conversation with my coach Pete, and I'm like why do they do this?
Speaker 2:If I had their willpower.
Speaker 1:I'd be fucking loveled.
Speaker 2:Part of it. I think it's their identity, isn't it? And it's I'm the boxer, and I think for some boxers not all of them, but for some they don't know how to retire yeah, because they're like once I retire, that's what I'm yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:There's a real psychological sport part of that which I and I love fucking. I love all this shit, like I love box, I love mma, I love all the psychology behind it, I love the drama behind it, I love the the sort of the win, the loss, all this sort of thing. But like, like, yeah, that, and that's probably an element of it, they don't know what they can move on to next and maybe they're not good enough, they don't have the intellect to start their own gym, to start their own programs, to be a coach themselves, to look outside and see what can I move my career into.
Speaker 2:I think I would give you a lot of credit that you know boxing were to end tomorrow. You know where your next moves are. You know probably. You maybe forget that you're one of the lucky ones, because there's boys out there who all they have is boxing and once that fucking, even though they're not even getting big paydays once that goes away they're gone they're like over the pound land here, suppose like you sort of have to have an idea. You can't box forever. You know that. I think in many ways.
Speaker 1:Before, like I'd always had good mentors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, growing up in boxing Mickey.
Speaker 1:Hawkins was always like A mentor to me as a kid, and same as he does, and he always gives you. He always gives you, like, the brutal honesty of the sport. Yeah, from a young age, like you need that. He's telling us not to box from no age. Like right, fucking, no way you're already doing this, really yeah he sort of prepares you for the big ball world really like from a young age, and he has done yeah, and then even like at a higher level, when I went on the like the Irish team.
Speaker 1:I was young, say, I was 18, and Paddy Barnes now whether or not we're in a big malice now, and Paddy Barnes was already looking at what I can do after, what he can do after are you and Paddy the same age? No, he would be your age. He'd be 37, now 38.
Speaker 1:He would be right, okay um, but as I say, I was 18 and he would say like 24 25 on the Irish team. So we had about one or more senior boxers when I came on yeah but he would be like he would be advising me, like to go and do something else, like don't be like, this isn't going to be you forever. Like so just be like and he's already looking out for shit, which he's done. He's now working for the sport council and yeah, also high performance, so he's, you know, I mean he.
Speaker 1:So you're looking at people like that, you're looking up to people like that and you're going like this is like these people are telling me, if I don't fucking take us on board, like it's just gonna pass me, like that yeah, and I have very, very good friends who it has passed them like that oh and now they're doing fuck all. Oh why they're doing nothing?
Speaker 2:what is the you've seen in boxing like at the minute? Like the boys coming up, like the you know the Irish boxers who are maybe in that zone of, like you know, 16 to 24, like, because the MMA fighters in this country coming up are, yeah, unreal. Fight Academy Ireland is creating some fucking bad men like bad man is boxing tatered off a wee bit in that sense, or is it?
Speaker 2:still like boxing's a very high level very high level, like there's a load of like what would we be saying in like 10 years? Like boys becoming world champs.
Speaker 1:I would say the pent. Do you know the pent um publicity? The publicity they get for themselves in terms of Olympic games come off games. The big media, like the world championships, are on at the minute. Okay, in Liverpool they're not even televised. I think you may be able to watch them all on the internet, on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but they're not televised.
Speaker 1:No, that's the hardest championship to win in boxing Right Period. That's harder to win a World Championship gold medal than it is to win an Olympic Games gold medal, right, okay, because there's more boxers, yeah, and there's less. The season's different, so when people are seeded number one and number eight, yeah. You know, in the Olympics you can get a buy. There's only so many fitters. You can get a buy straight the last 16. Okay, two fits, you win a medal. Over half Fates, you wouldn't Matter Over, I've done Like four fights, that wouldn't Matter.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:So, they're much Harder. And then You've every Country. Do you know what I mean and reason? It's just so Much harder In the world, but no, that's all the Best fighters in the world In Liverpool Right now. No one knows.
Speaker 2:Where they%.
Speaker 1:It's the Olympics, but so if someone, if some of the kids Go out and act and I would I would encourage them To go and do shit like this, like go out and get this. See, you've never seen these people Walk around town. Just build a profile, yeah, of any bit Like any sort.
Speaker 2:Right To play devil's advocate. If you are Trying to be the best, most elite boxer in the world, surely this is A waste of your time, because you should be Focusing on being the most elite In the gym All the time. Nutrition, blah, blah, blah. You get what I'm saying, don't you? You know what I mean, yeah, but, but. But now Do you also Counter my own argument, apologies for this, do you? Ever argue yourself All the time it's a fucking nightmare Living in, are living in my head they didn't.
Speaker 1:20 kilometer runs or just you are a tank, well, but I had to sound out the young demons in my head I just had a podcast.
Speaker 2:In all the times I'm like I cannot be left alone with the fucking voices in my head. For me, even I was flying yesterday and the flight's only an hour. See, if my headphones were to die, I'd have a full fucking mental panic attack break. I'm like don't leave me alone with myself, don't let do this.
Speaker 2:But anyway to counter the sort of thing of you know you should be committed all in you. Also, you know boxing is just one window in your lifetime and mmi fighting one window in your lifetime. And dana white has a great quote where he says it's an opportunity, it's not a career yeah it's an opportunity for you to make your money. Make, make your profile and then get the fuck out healthy. And then, you know, build off the back of your profile or the back of your money. Your podcast, your brand deal, your food prep meal service your fucking your wine, whatever it is that you're selling, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Do it that way, but yeah, not everyone's Floyd Mayweather. Not everyone is Conor McGregor who can sell pay-per-views. There's very few pay-per-view stars left anymore in the sports, but yeah, it's a dying thing, but yeah, it's just so much. And people, especially in this country, I think, have a perception of like, oh, you're a boxer, you must be fucking minted.
Speaker 1:I know what you're doing. It's not the case I. I know what I'm doing. It's not the case.
Speaker 2:I'm not like look, look at the fucking gate that I just fought on. And look at the pay-per-view. It's fucking fuck all like. What cut do you think I'm getting from that? I'm three fights down on the card. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:people sort of have this weird perception about it, like, but yeah, just try and make your money and get the fuck out healthy and to be do you know what I was speaking about the other day? Like what more? Like we were actually touched on the way up in the car. Like what more do some people want? So, like, even for me, right, obviously not a fucking millionaire, not a multi-millionaire. No, like I haven't made any money but you're not working class either no, I've had a couple.
Speaker 1:I've had a couple of big fights and I've made a Like I'm comfortable.
Speaker 2:And you've still some fights Ahead of you too. You're in a good spot In your career.
Speaker 1:I've got a gym. You're not washed. No, I'm not washed. I've still a few fights ahead of me.
Speaker 2:You're still good athletically. What age are?
Speaker 1:you 32 or 33?
Speaker 2:Are you only 33?
Speaker 1:For some reason, I had you at 35, so 33 is a hit me right but I would say you, in terms of your boxing career, you're still very fresh no, I'm fresh. You've still got like I don't get hit much. Yeah, you've still got like a good few years of family, which is great for being your age.
Speaker 2:That's a great position when you look at.
Speaker 1:Anto Kekatsi, he's 36, 37 he's like he doesn't have much males on the clock.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in terms of I haven't took a lot of punishment yeah, people are getting longer out of their careers now too, because of, like advancements in nutrition and training and stuff like that, doing things right, yeah, doing things compared to the old, not stressing the body.
Speaker 1:You know, back in the day I'd put plastic bags on weeks out just losing all the weight, and then small gloves, little, very, very like small protection. Hands racked, face racked, like it's like it would have been hard, so hard back then. Yeah, as hard as it is now. I can only imagine how hard it could be back then, like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but we just I think you adapt as well, like whatever it is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like people have this thing about oh I need to wear these gloves, need to wear these gloves. I just to me stuff like that doesn't matter really, I just get in and wear any gloves, really anything like my manager he's like what gloves do you want? I was like just whatever. And he's like what. I was like just. He's like what colour I was like don't care, he's like what you're melting and.
Speaker 1:I was like stuff like that don't even matter to me, that's interesting to me now, so it is. I don't really look much in there Because I would have thought the opposite.
Speaker 2:Not that, like you know it's very important, but like even, for example, if I were in your would have trained in the gloves I was going to fight in yeah, super stacious.
Speaker 1:People are super stacious on what they're wearing, how they're comfortable. I'm like that with my paddle yeah, like.
Speaker 2:I play off a certain record and I'm like that's my record. If you take that record off me, my powers are fucked you know what I mean, that's just old mindset, they're saying if you're in a pub, like on the drink. That's my one yeah, I know, and they're both the same yeah it's true like, but no fascinating that that's the way you approach it. I just I don't feel like. I think you're probably one of the few boxers that would be like that, yeah, a lot of them, like I'd say, one of the only.
Speaker 1:That's the last thing I think about.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's the very, I don't think. Oh, hand gloves are a wee bit like. I don't like the way hand gloves are. I don't like how they feel in my hands. Right, right, right you fucking tense your hands, you throw a punch and that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't look at it and go oh, I, that stuff does not matter, gotcha.
Speaker 1:Makes sense, so like when I went and I was fitting in America the last year, when I got there I was completely took by. Like we got to the Berkeley Center and they were like right, sean, oh sir, like the commission, new York State, commission. I was like yes, yes, yes, okay. Saying and saying, and you're gonna do a drug test? Now I was like wow, I've never done a drug test before a fight you feel for calpol?
Speaker 1:and I was like, right, you're like, yeah, you do a split, it's, it's called a split. We do it in new york. It's like you do half before the fight and you do the other half after the fight. And I was like, right, okay, it's my fate. It was like five hours away or four. I ended up. They told me it was 3 hours away, but it ended up 5 hours away.
Speaker 2:So I done a, I done a urine test before the feet can I ask a quick question, before of course you can, with the urine test, does the person who's taking the test have to see the piss coming?
Speaker 1:out of your dick. Yeah, 100%, that's class. I get stage fright. I don't know why I get stage fright too, mate, like in our poor toilets I'm in the stalls like I can't, I'm terrible public.
Speaker 2:Wait until it happens, because one time someone left a comment about me on reddit being like I seen him. I seen him take a shade outside a shopping bar bridge and I was like mate, I can't even piss unless I'm surrounded by four walls. If you think I'm public shiting, fair play to you. But yeah, so, yes, you've. So, oh man. So did you have to wait a wee bit or did you have to be like mate? This will come out eventually.
Speaker 1:I always wait. I was waiting around a few times. The first I tried it like it was trying phrases and then I finally went. But like I was, like I always, like I always close my eyes and be like, just, I'll be trying to squeeze your ear in and I'll be like, oh fuck, I'll be standing.
Speaker 2:That'd be so shit If you got like a real Pervert, commissioner, just like Miss Guzzi, miss Guzzi. Take as long as you want. Oh, that's amazing. If you need to Just another bit, yeah, you fill it up, keep going, but now, like sometimes I'll be like see after a fight. It's harder really, because you're dehydrated after the fight okay, okay, whereas before the fight there's no water in you before the fight.
Speaker 1:That time it was easier because, like it was half full of hydrate. I went pretty quick, yeah. And then after the fight they came back and got you again and you were like, great, you have to go again. So I was like closing my eyes and trying to piss and all, and I was like squeezing everything, trying to squeeze. You know what it's like every time you go to the toilet and you're squeezing and you can't fart. It was full of wind. It was full of wind and I was like, oh no, there was so many man, that's not my thing. I'd be like, it's okay, take your time, don't rush it. I was like, mate, will you fuck up? And they turned the water top on and I was like that's the classic.
Speaker 1:I was like mate. This is the worst shit. That doesn't even work. He's like Just listen to the water they're trying to like. They're trained.
Speaker 2:It's as if they're trained to teach you how to do a piss oh, like, how long do they have to wait there if you don't piss all?
Speaker 1:night, they're not allowed to leave your seat. So see, if I want to, I'm not allowed to get showered or nothing wow because you could potentially piss in the shower do you know, what I mean.
Speaker 2:So it's like so you have to, just, you just sink water until you oh fucking hell.
Speaker 1:That's the glamorous. Do you know what annoys me? It doesn't annoy me, but like, let's say, for example, maybe two years ago I fought in the Odyssey Arena.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My column was held in. There was a fight on after me and then I was then getting drug tested, done the bloods and then I filled out all drug tested, done the bloods and then filled out all the forms, put my drug test in. You went and did a piss, couldn't piss back out, sat down, kept drinking water back in, tried again, couldn't go back out. By a stage the second fight after me had been tested, they had went and done there's no opinion going. I said how the fuck does he get to this state? And then sitting about again drinking water again Matt Cunningham's out, Boom, he pisses Are you still here?
Speaker 2:Are you serious? I'm like fuck, no way.
Speaker 1:And it's like half 12 and we're sitting backstage in the SSC. I'm like I'm ready to go again and the fella's like is yours to your time? I'm like, no, I'm ready to go, and I'm like, and I was like so determined that I went, but it's like a trickle right up and it has to be like 90 milliliters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's like this sorry, it's like 30 milliliters has to be as much in a 90 milliliter bottle. So I'm like, and I get it, I keep tapping iters and I close that lid and give it to your mom. I mean you'd still be starting there, right it's like psychological I'm like I'm singing like I just can't. I'm just in there, I'm in the zone, and your mom's like oh, whoa, whoa, and I'm like yes like Sean Disney all night.
Speaker 1:He's on in five minutes my kids fucking are getting into bed and that's sad in the morning that's wild.
Speaker 1:yeah, that'd be so shit, because after a fight, I'm sure all you want to do is shower off, get a fucking slice of pizza and just fucking yeah, a slice of beer and a pizza, yeah, fuck, grim Because you never consider getting involved in any like because you like, obviously, with the way like you're doing the commentating on that and so much like like you love it. You're a wee bit pister about the combat sports. That's my sport, mate.
Speaker 2:I don't watch like football. I don't watch like I watched Canelo Crawford this weekend all over it like the watch every MMA fight going, absolutely love it. But it's just I think, because I've watched it so much, I know that you don't just fuck about with that shit. You don't just now. Don't get me wrong, the comedians did the charity thing absolutely, but my mindset wouldn't have been to be fucking about. I'd have been like two times a day in the gym, I wouldn't have done comedy, I would have given up.
Speaker 2:I would have just fucking become a boxer mate, I swear to god, because I'm always like you can't disrespect the sport that way, like that's how my mindset is.
Speaker 1:Shane was pretty serious about it oh, but this is what happens.
Speaker 2:They all go. Mate weighs up, we're doing a bit of crack no one's gonna train. That's serious. Blah, blah, blah it's like. But you are. Because here's what happens you do your first training session. You go, that was great. You get a wee look at everyone else and you go all right, who am I up against here? And you go I'm, I'll probably have to come in tomorrow again.
Speaker 2:Just do a wee bit of extra work you do the extra work and then what you do, you start because you're committing so much time you're going well, I don't want to lose if I'm putting this much time in. And then you put more time in and you go well, I'm definitely not fucking. So. It's like it's this vicious snowball effect of like you don't want to train to lose and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So you know what the Ulster Hall is such a fucking good venue for it class, like it was.
Speaker 2:The atmosphere was great both times. Like yeah, it is like.
Speaker 1:I got to be backstage and stuff and you're just like they put on such a good show like every, all the fighters, like they were well matched fights the last time.
Speaker 2:I thought it was very good even like with Sean, and Sean and Shane put on a hell of a show. Yeah, I think I commentated that one, I think the only thing was Roboil and Big Con.
Speaker 1:This was a wee bit of a woe, but I told Con I was like just go easy here, a few job, hell job, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's done it with Paddy as we were saying, like Ro has that wee bit of disciplinary nose, yeah, yeah yeah, what way to go? Yeah, yeah, yeah fucking Colin Comich swinging fields.
Speaker 2:He's like no no, you can plan out the fucking window. Throw in the damn, throw in the damn throw. Oh, six months of training, but that look, two heavy heathers just swinging.
Speaker 1:Someone's going, someone's oh, gotta go, and it was not real but they're the most.
Speaker 2:They're great for me because I'm not in it. See, when you're doing all these wee things as a comedian, where you're doing like you know the charity box and the stars in their eyes, whatever're doing all these wee things as a comedian, where you're doing like you know the charity box and the stars in their eyes, whatever it is all these wee gigs and stuff that you do, there's lovely wee ones where you just take a wee night off and the comedian's box.
Speaker 1:That's great for me. I just get to watch it.
Speaker 2:Like there's some times, but yeah, I loved when they done them fucking it's. I mean I'm glad that they're probably gonna take a wee break now, because, yeah, I know you've used up all your matchups, some stuff gets hated as well.
Speaker 1:You know, some shit gets hated, some people get like yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:There was definitely a few wee like tiffs here and there, like yeah, sort of out in the ring, andre Ram was like, questioning me.
Speaker 1:I love it Like he was like. So what do I do but Andrew's?
Speaker 2:That's also his anxiety.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's also Andrew Just being, you know, fucking Mental In the best possible way. But Andrew did Not that much training First of all I remember?
Speaker 1:Yeah, not as much as the rest of them. No.
Speaker 2:I mean he said to me he's like I'm getting to lose here. I'm like, well, that's okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, as long as you know that like and he's gonna hit me here and I was like you can't tell me what he's gonna do. I know he's like trying to plan it. Did you ever see like visualization? He was visualizing getting hit here.
Speaker 2:He's going down. I'm like I know, I know I think he sort of tried to plan it out. He was like, yeah, I'm gonna knock him down One round and he's gonna knock me down and then we went to the third round and, like it doesn't work, I know, but I'm like You're not in WWE, you're fucking this is. But yeah, I swear to god Like he gets nervous Before stuff like that, like in part of the.
Speaker 2:He's big into a golf YouTube channel and stuff like that and he's really he knows a lot of stuff about it and he's like that's his thing, like you know. That's like when I love the MMA stuff, he loves the golf stuff. You know the, but he yeah, it was, it was funny. I remember you were in Andrew's corner, weren't you? Yeah, like, feed me this gel during the first round. After the first round, this energy gel which we found out after it was illegal.
Speaker 2:So technically, technically, it was a no contest and he's undefeated, but he's like, oh yeah, you know, just open the gel and just get, put it in my mouth and squeeze. I was like, yeah, grand stuff, but the gel is like a frub yogurt, you know how it is, uh. So I ripped it open and I was too excited to feed him it. So I fucking, basically pooh, cockied him like I fucking, like I put it in his mouth and fucking yanked it and he choked. He started fucking his gum shield all flying everywhere, the gel's hitting the floor and all.
Speaker 1:He's not even taking anything in and he's huffing and puffing and I'm like we're done, I'm gonna go back To my seat. I'm like we're cooked.
Speaker 2:We're so cooked. I should never be a corner man, the but aye, good fun.
Speaker 1:Good fun, good fun, good memories, good cause, good fucking money raised yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's what it's all about. Like you know what I mean. Just, I can't remember the chart. It was a tiny, no Children's, fucking, fucking it's the one on the falls road.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tones car unit or something like that. Yeah, little itty t-shirt.
Speaker 2:The pizza shop. Oh man, the OGs like the fucking.
Speaker 1:Would that be your favourite pizza?
Speaker 2:here's the thing. Now you've got me on my next passionate topic here, sean, so we're gonna be here for a good wee, while pizza in Belfast we have never been in a better spot. This is the fucking golden era, sean. I don't know how into your pizza you are, but, oh my, we have some of the fucking best pizza at the minute, right now that I've. But top five Belfast, let's go top five. Look, I'm going to tell you no pair of hands, top five, no pair of hands. I'll tell you top one at least. Flout, flout.
Speaker 1:The reason why I haven't been Is because the queue Is fucking so long.
Speaker 2:It's a queue, it's in the east, you know we're like.
Speaker 1:And when are we?
Speaker 2:Open one in the west and then you're going flat. He is opening one In city centre. To be fair, at the minute he's putting the plan Permission stuff in so you might be able to get there. But you can pre-order all two they have because they used to do only walk-ins. But on Friday and Saturday nights you can actually pick up and pre-order a full pizza or whatever. So if you're going to do that, that's the easier way to do it.
Speaker 2:But like this guy is like I say this in a kind positive way and he pizza like bread bread, like bread in general, like he knows, every type of bread, focaccia sardo fucking like new york style detroit style chicago style tavern, like this guy. Just he operates on a fucking mad level and his flavors and stuff he's absolutely number one. Little italy serves like a nostalgia slice. I would call it like. It's what your dad used to bring you to. It's when, after a night out you were like 20 you used to have, and it has that fucking charm about it. And look realistically. It's been about for what? Since 1992?
Speaker 2:one of the first ones without Little Italy, there is no of these other ones. There's no Flout, there's no Charlie's Pizza, there's no, you know, back in the day. So they have a real nostalgic and my dad, that's where I had my first pizza and my dad brought me to. Yeah, you might know my dad, big Joe Campbell from Turf. Oh, I don't know him too well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he loves you. By the way, he's a big fan. Oh, I don't know him.
Speaker 2:When I was younger, when I was like four or five years old, and he kept bringing me in, when he was like on nights out and stuff, and he'd meet him in town and whatever, and every time I went with him he would. You know what Little Italy's like? There's a massive queue on Saturday night, like it's fucking packed with everybody in town and you can. It takes you like ages to get to the front of the queue and stuff. Every Jake, two ham, salam, peps, and the guy would go no worries, joe, they're coming now, because he just knew my day, but I went in then on my own, probably when I was about 24, 25.
Speaker 1:Jake says fuck off.
Speaker 2:He better. It wasn't even busy, it was like empty and I was like Jake, jake, jake, and the guy's like looking around and I'm like, and then one of the people, why are you shouting Jake? At him? And I was like is that not Jake? He goes, he's Jack. And I went and I was going, no, but I went, no, he's Jake. And I went. I'm his family member, he's Jack. And I went no, I've been calling him Jake for years. And the guy then came over Jake, he goes, is your dad Big Joe? And I went yeah, he goes. Big Joe's been calling me Jake since I opened this shop, but I don't correct him because he's been my most loyal customer, number one.
Speaker 2:I've been respect that yeah, yeah, god rest him. Jake's passed away since then, but he, jack, sorry, that's so fucking disrespectful. The little little guys know that I mean well by. Either way, he made a great pizza and he was and yeah, he was like, he made the shop like and his family it's all still in the family business which. I love. I think that's great, that's class and they're doing still making great pizza.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I'm trying to think we've so many good yeah like food in general at the minute, I think Belfast is like the goat for food and you're starting to see all these bloggers like massive food bloggers from UK and stuff and they're like yeah, even if you look at that common marketplace, they have like Smice Burger and stuff and all the fucking guys doing great work there and all the it's just it's class. There's almost too much good.
Speaker 1:Wings Society opened a new Wings, and then the Lisburn Road.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to them like it's you love saying it, though.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I spoke to? Like big John um Fisher, to the big guy that does the Bosch, you know, he was here and I done a podcast with him and he he's so true and he says Belfast is so small that you can just walk around and go to wherever you want within the city centre and have the nicest food you want in the city centre.
Speaker 1:It's such a small vicinity because, like I say, dublin right, dublin's so big it is you have to get taxis everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, belfast, you jump from one bar around a restaurant back to a bar, another bar, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can do a bar crawl from Cathedral Quarter to fucking Botanic easily.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, and it's it only takes a couple of hours if even and yeah, botanic has loads of great spots on their street like it's just, oh, it's freaking, but that's the day. That's why Game of Thrones filmed here. If you remember back in the day, belfast, you know you're only ever like 20 minutes from, like a beach, from a forest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, isn't it?
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean so accessible.
Speaker 2:That was the filming incentive here. It's like they needed to film all these like rural scenes, but they also you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they also need to have access to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the city that has the big studios at Titanic and stuff. So like just made sense that they had all that. You know, we sort of forget sometimes how lucky and how great this place can be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and how accessible it can be for like you know, you can go down to Helen's Bay. There's a guy who I know, enda. He's a good friend of mine's. He is running a big studio, a new big studio right there in Titanic. It's like a movie theatre.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1:It looks amazing.
Speaker 2:You mean a theatre, as in. You can go in as like a cinema. No, it's like where they film stuff. Oh, there's loads of those.
Speaker 1:But there's a new one now. Whatever way you explain to me, I don't know much about it, but it looks like fucking. It's meant to be like the dog's danglers.
Speaker 2:What a description, Sean.
Speaker 1:He says the fact that they've chosen Belfast as like, and that's one of the reasons why yeah yeah, yeah, because it has everything In one. Smaller, but he says my boss Sent me over he's from. He's originally from Sago but he moved to England when he was a kid. And he says my boss sent me over here To open and run this whole big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big studio.
Speaker 1:But he says the fact that they chose Belfast is massive for Belfast, do they?
Speaker 2:have a production in it at the minute or is it empty?
Speaker 1:I know I have no clue. See a lot of these. I have no clue, I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 2:I know, see, I dabbled sort of when I did videography and I did like marketing and uni and stuff and we talked about the film industry a lot here because at the time it was booming their prequel series and whatever.
Speaker 2:But ever since Game of Thrones has left, a lot of those studios are now empty and they can't film. And it's a shame that the film industry here just isn't getting the boost that it used to have. You know, in terms of big budget productions, I know that we still have, you know, bbc NI forking out stuff and UTV maybe doing some things and stuff like that, but Nowhere near the novel, nowhere near and it's shit for people here, because people could live here and work here who were from here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but now if you want to work in the film industry and you're from here Go abroad. You have to go to London. You have to go. You know what I mean and that's sad, like, but it's just one of those things. There's not, you know, especially tv in america not being, you know, it's all run by netflix now yeah, netflix just taking over, even box night, because you know they're getting into the sport yeah, they're doing crawford
Speaker 2:yes, that's right. Yeah, and I think they have a few other things lined up. They were in talks with the ufc, but the ufc ended up going with paramount plus, which is a weird curveball, um, but you go where the money is. The yeah they got offered is yeah, they got offered 7.7 billion for seven years, I think. So 1.1 billion a year Much of that. The fighter's going to see Sean Fuck all, fuck six. That's insane. But yeah, no, I like to see that they're getting more into the sports live streaming side of things, because I think it's accessible, they're just.
Speaker 2:You need to get some of that fucking Saudi Turk money, mate. I don't know that's what you want. You need to get in with your, not your majesty. What's he called Turk Turk?
Speaker 1:yeah, your, your your, your great.
Speaker 2:What's? What do they call him? Oh?
Speaker 1:it's going to annoy me. Your excellency, your excellency.
Speaker 2:Imagine being that fucking prestigious. I know your excellency.
Speaker 1:Imagine you, Sean McComb, people in turf laws. I get it. I'm like that. I will yes.
Speaker 2:I would love that now if anytime you walk around turf they refer to you as that. People can keep a note of that. Yeah, yeah, I credit you probably one of the best ring walks in Northern Ireland for when you did the ring walk from turf to the Falls Park. I think that is elite.
Speaker 1:That's number one for me a photo of like Conor Burns is actually at the front there. He comes from Mountain Road, he's from Mountain Road, he made his way over and he was like leading away and he's like give me your bag, give me your bag, I'll carry your bag. I said no, you're alright, I'll carry my bag, I'll carry my bag. And he was like telling people get the photo's iconic Like there's a photo of me and like hundreds of people behind me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the whole video, the whole. Like I was like I remember just watching the time going that's fucking, that's what it's about. Like that's the sport, like that's the fucking, the pageantry, the theatre, the fucking.
Speaker 1:Because people are like stations and boxing and combat sports probably all sports in fact but I just like I'm like you blank it all out. Kids love us kids some kids wake up this and go.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's amazing oh man, I looked up to it and I was 36, like fuck, I'm not even a boxer and I'm like that's fucking good inspiration. It's good to give back.
Speaker 1:It's a wee memory for some people. You.
Speaker 2:For your own career. Yeah, like no one else has done it. You know what I mean. It's like it's iconic, yeah, it's gonna end up With iconic things. And do you know what I think more boxers Probably need to Try to do stuff like that, because that's how, number one, you increase your likeability, you increase your profile A wee bit, you humanise yourself To people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You've, so you're doing Mandela Hall eh doing Mandela Hall next year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cheers for the plug, cheers for the shout they're gonna be doing. It's my biggest solo show sort of to date and, yeah, tickets are selling really well.
Speaker 1:Very happy with it if anyone wants to grab a ticket from here is it January or March, march, so it's far enough away, but I wanted to get, like that's, a good Christmas present.
Speaker 2:Exactly Good Christmas present, good payday present, and I also have the panel show with BBC that it's leading up to that as well. So there's a few wee things happening around it all and, yeah, I'm just Like I always am so thankful, and so I have a lot of gratitude for the people of Northern Ireland, belfast, because without them you've no show without them.
Speaker 2:You've no audience. You know what I mean and the sort of the beautiful thing about this BBC show that I'm doing is that it's every ticket that we do on the BBC show is completely free, so people get those because the BBC pay for those.
Speaker 2:And it's class for me because it almost feels like I get to give back a wee bit, because I know there's people that use their hard earned money. There's a lot of other things they could use their money with, but the fact that they're paying tickets to see us is class. So the fact that then I get to give them a free show is lethal. That's like fucking great. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean it's like fighting on a terrestrial, it's like fighting on ITV or whatever.
Speaker 2:It's like you don't have to pay for the zone or whatever. You just get it for free, you know. So, yeah, that's class. But yeah, if you do want to pay to see a show, come to see the Mandela Hall show in March. And yeah, it is one of those things where you just feel. You almost feel like one day you're going to wake up and someone's going to be like right, game over, back to fucking you know go back to doing your regular job here or whatever.
Speaker 2:But I just take each day as it comes and I'm like class like fucking.
Speaker 1:What do I do to make a living?
Speaker 2:Living the dream like yeah, always fucking just delighted yeah before you can tell you're like gratitude towards it. Yeah, yeah yeah, and I like I don't like to talk about too much because you want to be the wanky guy like no one wants it, because people are just like oh, you're comedian, just be a laugh, tell jokes with everybody. It's like I have to be honest too like I have to be honest, just be like I'm lucky.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. But I do work hard too, like I am see laverys pretty regularly. I'm always writing, I'm always trying new stuff, I'm always fucking.
Speaker 1:You know just trying to get better. You can't just swing it like me. I'm like I say a lot. I don't think I would ever have the ball to stand on stage and tell jokes, or not tell jokes be funny well the thing I don't think I have it in me yeah, it's a different skill set.
Speaker 2:It's a. It's definitely you know yourself. There's people you know in your daily life, who you go, he's a fucking character, or he is he's a funny bastard but, standing on stage being funny is just a different skill set.
Speaker 2:It's so, it's mad, it's weird. Now some people are just natural at it. Some people fucking take to it the way you take to sports, like just fucking natural at it. And then some people have to work on it. I'd say I probably had to work on it quite a bit to get to the level I'm at and I still work on it to try and get better and better. Like I have a fucking show with BBC and I'm still. I still have imposter syndrome every single fucking day like I battle with.
Speaker 1:But you sort of just get on with it because you enjoy it but the yeah especially when you you were saying earlier like you were the quietest in class. I didn't really that's a, that's a. That's a lot for you to come out of your comfort zone.
Speaker 2:I didn't come out of my shildo uni, really uni. I remember being real quiet for the first like month, and it was. I started to feel really shit because I was going this isn't the uni experience that I wanted it to be. I wanted to fucking have American pie. Yeah, fucking parties, yeah, fingering everyone, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's class. Yeah, yeah, yeah and da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, I know right, but it just wasn't that.
Speaker 2:It was like fucking real because I was so introverted and quiet and then I just wised up. I was like make a friend or I'm just going to be a fucking lonely person all my life. And so I just started sort of trying to chat more and forcing myself to like be out and join some clubs I joined. I joined the Queens dance team, of course it is. I was like I was like the only guy in the fucking dance club like surrounded by and it's what's funny about that is you join the dance team and you go fucking birds everywhere.
Speaker 2:I don't want to get All these ones pregnant by the end of the week and blah, blah, blah and. But what happens is but what happens is, because you're like Such a good dancer, girls just go Hi he's gay, it's fine and I wasn't like but fucking, they all was just like Is our gay friend on?
Speaker 2:And I'm like, ha ha, yeah, I didn't buck any of them, but it's what happened. Okay, feel that fucksake girls, they all tricked you, yeah, but I remember, yeah, so I just joined some societies and that helped me come out of my shell a bit more, did a few musicals and a few plays and stuff in uni and then a comedy poster came about. It was for a show that was called Find Me the Funny and the show was like a comedy version of X Factor. It was from BBC NI and that's where the wave of like me, shane, mickey, sean, haggerty, that's where we all met each other and like that was like the start of this generation.
Speaker 2:It's just not taken off. You know what I mean. But we all met each other. Well, I met them, and so the first time they had maybe gigged a little bit before, but that's the sort of the beginning. If you were like pinpoint, like what was the beginning of like that was it. And that was like a year before Colin did the Bar the Blender stuff, so he wasn't even like there back then.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, yeah, I think. And then that sort of all got the ball rolling and now we're just all flying. You know, boys are selling out shows, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is classic, but that's where it all started and I did have to really work on it. Like I still work on it and I'm still just. You know, I think if you ever reach a place in your career where you're like, ah, that's me completed it. It's like the world, the culture changes and the technology changes. You know, you look at the five years ago no one had a TikTok account. Now you have to. No one was doing come spend a day in the life with me. Now you have to show people a wee bit of your part. So it's like there's all these wee different evolution of how people consume content, how people you know what they like in terms of. You know whether it's sitcoms, whether it's a panel show, whether it's a stand-up show, whether it's a live stream of a tiktoker doing four hours where he's walking about belfast it is.
Speaker 1:And then that was there someone that?
Speaker 2:did that? Are you just making a joke? I thought I missed something. I was like, fuck, what did I? Fucking?
Speaker 1:you wouldn't have missed it. When you were still in Queens, you were the guy oh yeah, but yeah, so fucking.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's a constant, but I like that. I like even with AI at the minute. That's the big thing. At the minute, you should be using AI for your boxing. I think you have a fight when, in three weeks time, three weeks what's the name of your opponent?
Speaker 1:would they analyse it? They like, give you like tactics.
Speaker 2:Here's what I would do if I were you because you're flattered.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know, shane will just give you a shirt, and he'll ask you to do some stuff for him.
Speaker 2:Jerry Adams came to me for AI. That's how the fucking involved I am. I'm in the RAV for AI and their special advisor, the breakaway group, it's the IRAI.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, like. So what you could do is you could name your opponent. You go, I'm fighting this guy on this date. Please do me a thorough analysis of his strengths, weaknesses, what his habits are, what his traits are, what his last five fights have looked like, and give me a total uh breakdown in one pdf file and you can just have that for your disposal now here's the thing though he could do that to you, exactly so. But if you did that to yourself now, here's the.
Speaker 1:Here's the fucking matrix, part of it Sean, we're getting deep here, yeah say you did it to yourself, say you went.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm fighting Sean McComb on this way. Give me a strength, whatever you could read that yourself and you could go alright, well, fucking he's gonna read this.
Speaker 1:So now I counter it see how the fucking, it's fucking fucking market. Now we're getting, now we're getting the reason, but that's it's technical but I love that.
Speaker 2:So yeah, like, even in terms of like I'm using it for stuff like marketing strategies and stuff like that for my show and things like that. So say, for example, I'm selling my show that's in March, I go hey, I'm a comedian based in Belfast, I have this show coming in March. You five top strategies could I implement to try sell some tickets. You know what I mean and just do you pay for that?
Speaker 1:you can £20 a month.
Speaker 2:I have the £20 a month version. You know you deduct that from your tax bill. It's all good, but you can. You can use the free version. That's pretty much the same like. I think the only difference is with the paid versions you get more like image generation so I would generate. So you get like some help with that, but I'm pretty sure the free version what's the difference between ai and chat gpt? Oh well, chat gpt is ai. Oh, is that what you mean?
Speaker 1:is it sorry when I?
Speaker 2:say it, I lump it all into one now, to be fair, if you're to get real fucking particular with it, ai is just artificial intelligence which can come in many forms. Chat gpt is a form of ai. You also have a bajillion other softwares out there that produce.
Speaker 2:Now they all produce different results and they're all good for different things. You have an ai software called mid journey, which is used for images. You have an ai software called runway, which is used for video. Chatgpt is a bit of an all-rounder, where it uses text, image a little bit of everything. It also has this function called deep research, which is what you would use if you were studying an opponent or something like that.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's part of the free version. I think you have to pay for that £20 a month. But I'll do it for you, mate.
Speaker 1:I'd say I just have, you're in the corner. I'm in the A, actually I'm on a coach.
Speaker 2:You fire everyone, I'm just like right, sean, I'm going to call out commands. You just listen to. I know what way he's going to weave here G7, f4. But I think he could. But you could, you should use it.
Speaker 1:Would you use it? Nah, nah, because Do you think it'll get in your head too much? No, it's real time. I know what he does, okay.
Speaker 2:You already know.
Speaker 1:In real time. It's like stuff like that is very. I think it's good, but I think my box IQ is better than chat GPT.
Speaker 2:Probably is yeah, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1:I trust in what I can see and exploit.
Speaker 2:Now here's the other thing you'll be able to do at some point I don't know if you can do it yet, like, but you'll be able to basically download all the information from your head to the AI and then it'll be able to outsmart you. You know what I mean constantly learning. This is the thing about it like ai in two years time is a bajillion times smarter than ai today, but ai three years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, how much more can I get? Oh, there's nobody, but obviously I can't.
Speaker 2:But I mean like well, it's already smarter than the average human, like you know. I mean way smarter. But it's even like. Andrew plays like chess, or used to play chess a lot, and he used to play against like computer ai, and a computer can outsmart someone in chess. So in a similar way, boxing maybe you know it can sort of outsmart, but do you ever do VR boxing?
Speaker 1:I've done it a bit yeah.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:It's good the wee thing you put hey very lifelike, very, very like you know like it makes you punch correctly and all, yeah, yeah, yeah you always see like there's more, of like a snap and all, and you punch correctly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah they have the one now in VR Boxing. It's the new one. They released Thrill of the Fight 2, I think. It is where you can do online matches. Do you know this? So, for example, I put the headset on, you're in your house and I'm in my house, I can fight you, but fuck it. Obviously you're not Actually hitting me. There's the new. Charlie event Comedians VR boxing, the new VR boxing, just so no one gets hurt at all You're unbeaten In the house. You stick a GoPro.
Speaker 1:Go live.
Speaker 2:But there's, honestly, there's boys who are like Bringing the VR headset Into the boxing gym, into the ring, and they're just doing like sparring, or they're warming up or whatever.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But here's what you could do. Then you could create a profile, say, the person you're about to fight, download their like style into the computer and then you fight their style and then you know the outcome. I mean, I'm telling you this is the fucking evolution in evolution he's gonna start going how the fuck is this guy winning all this money? He's in the house.
Speaker 1:He's dressed up as Chuck Liddell. He's dressed up, he's dressed up, he's dressed up, he's dressed up, he's dressed up.
Speaker 2:He's dressed up. He's dressed up. He's dressed up. He's dressed up. He's dressed up. He's dressed up. He's dressed up he's dressed up.
Speaker 1:That's the way the world is going.
Speaker 2:My attitude to it is this and I say this to fucking Jerry himself, funny enough, I say it like you'll get people, and you get this with every new wave of technology, whether it's the smartphone, whether it's the internet first beginning, whether it's the fucking TV or whatever you get a wave of people that'll always be too old for it and go nah, it's past my time, I don't want to learn that new thing. And blah, blah. The key example of people who don't download their boarding pass they're from they still printed.
Speaker 2:You know there's people that are still just. They're like no, I'm never going to change that way. But if you don't change with the times, you're stuck there. You're stuck there. You have to always be evolving, changing with the technology. You know what I mean. Because you have to be, because that's what's the future like, that's whatever, what the whatever the kids are sort of getting into.
Speaker 1:Maybe get on it early and get a head start on most of it.
Speaker 2:You'll have an advantage in terms of like for your own business and your own monetary gain. That's what it's all about. Like you know, whoever can utilize and advantage to the best of their you know, fucking ability is the people who'll excel with it.
Speaker 1:You know We'll wrap it up.
Speaker 2:It's been a pleasure have me back sometime.
Speaker 1:Yes, 100% We'll actually get a couple of us on yeah Two, two, two, we'll get a good laugh. I've enjoyed a good chat.
Speaker 2:I wish you luck in your fight. Thank you, mate.
Speaker 1:You'll smash it.
Speaker 2:I imagine. Fingers crossed, I mean at least if you don't win good luck on the pissing Cheers.
Speaker 1:I'll be thinking about this now, this chat. I'll be like, oh fuck.
Speaker 2:Butler and I speak of a dab.
Speaker 1:I'm like Butler, you bastard. Listen, thank you, and I really appreciate you coming on. Man Pleasure mate Always good.