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The Public Nuisance Podcast
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The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #057 What Survives the Noise with Sean Connolly
Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Sean Connolly to the podcast.
We cover cardiac arrest and second chances, ICU lessons carried onto the gym floor, fundamentals under pressure, gratitude changing physiology, emotions hijacking performance, old-school weight cuts versus modern recovery, play-sparring over head-hunting, pressure testing with hostile crowds, dancers and violinists crossing into sport, mental reps unlocking new maxes, building a life scaffold that holds beyond the ring and much more.
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SPEAKER_00:Uh they're like, wow, Shaggy's well, she's always lost out of the forest. Like, I remember very well, Dan. They don't they don't um and she she didn't really drink, did she she died, you see? She was in a coma. She died um must have been coming up twelve years ago. We were at a caravan with kids and uh Newcastle. And I woke up at five in the morning, looked at her, and she was shaking. Thought she was having a nightmare and tried to wake her. She died in her sleep.
SPEAKER_02:No way.
SPEAKER_00:Heart stopped not suddenly not all dead.
SPEAKER_02:That's mental.
SPEAKER_00:And then I I done CPR 16 years previous, didn't know what I remembered her to do and just started doing CPR. She was dead for 53 minutes before they started her heart again. That's insane. And they say she wasn't wanting to a coma. And if she did, she'd be severely brain damaged. And you matter, like she's leaving solo to the party, like that's mental heart, like what happened. Actually, all her mates was doing the caravan and I'd put the tent up because there was no room, and I says, Look, I'll go out to the tent. So the phone was packed, and she says, Just lie on the sofa. So we fell asleep on the sofa, and I just woke up and I just I looked at her and she was shaking, her blood pressure was getting down. And um I checked to see if she was up and was eating. No, did she wake up if she's choking something? And and then I checked her carotid pulse and on. So I just started doing CPR and shouting and shouting. Seemed like ours, nobody could hear me. Her sister, Janine, they were all drunk and all land up, nobody heard. Or in the colgum running out, and um she's just started bang, banging doors.
SPEAKER_02:That's insane.
SPEAKER_00:Uh and then somebody can remember the phone with the ambulance on it. And I I I can't remember, I just kept I I remember your I could hear your man's voice. Funny, I met her met him last night in Arle Town. He was coming out of Chippey. Bobby's from trench, and he saw you rang on the ambulance. No, the k the the the wee man who trained me in CPR like when I was I don't know what age I was 19 or something. And I brought him down to corner. I said, Jackie, this is a man that showed me CPR that I don't know. There you go. So nice. He says it's lovely to hear because you never see anybody you've trained, you know. Everybody should know it, know a bit of it, like even just the basics. The says only I started straight away.
SPEAKER_02:Should we talk technically?
SPEAKER_00:They were going to um I remember they were going to take her arm off, her arm was pure black, and then I'd phoned a fella, done a bit of work with his kids, were swimmers and that. He's a surgeon in the city, so he bombed over. Um and I heard him shooting at the ones in the emergency room, and he got somebody down who he knew in the road, and your man saved her arm, like. That's mad, isn't it? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Never hear stories like that 53 minutes, I suppose, as well.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. 53 minutes. Do you know Big Doogie? Big Eden, his brother now looks after the machines and I see you. And he says they all call call her Lazarus. Says that's unheard of. Like what did she does she ever speak about like did she ever like experience anything in turn death or was it just no memory a week before or like maybe six weeks, seven weeks after. Yeah. Because when she came out of the coma, she knew nobody, only me, she didn't know the kids. She's like so many Walzheimers. Just kept repeating herself and she would ask who the kids were. So um they told me they tried to talk me out of keeping her in the coma because it says there was no chance, but I kept talking to her and I knew she somewhere in said she could hear me, you know, and I kept singing I don't know any songs, and I could remember one verse from school.
SPEAKER_01:Um singer she'd wake up and go.
SPEAKER_00:And one verse if he's got the whole weight. So I would go from one to the other, and then I would talk to her the way the the programme that I run is how we work on a conscious and unconscious level. And that's what I suppose that's when I got a real belief in it, because they told me she's no chance of coming out of the coma and she came out of it in the second day. Like that's insane. So uh as I say, but it was hard even the year after when she got out trying to adjust when when that happens to somebody, it's like they went through the menopause in one day, the chemicals, the the body starting up again.
SPEAKER_02:Did they ever did they ever figure out why it was so like I know it's sudden like I think that all suddenly sounds like a baby cot death?
SPEAKER_00:It's just the the heart just switches off. You know?
SPEAKER_02:And do you would you be spiritually like would you believe in like do you think there was something there's a reason like why it's just like 33 minutes and still today? There's something there's a reason why it happened and why it's such a miracle.
SPEAKER_00:If only that's her she always asked that, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know if I'm spiritually like attacking or feeling spiritually of I don't know, I don't know what way I feel like I don't really think too much about it, but but I know people are very big on it just and they're like when you hear stories like that it's like it's so unbelievable. It makes you think it has to be something 53 minutes.
SPEAKER_00:53 minutes, yeah. Well they let me stay in ICU that night to have a room and um I have a lot of practices, like especially from Asia. I've been travelling a lot and off to my box and I took up martial arts and different therapies from Asia and different types of meditations and stuff, and I've seen things like Singapore 1998. I went over and took part in all the Hindu festivals and the biggest firewalk in Asia. I was the first white man to ever do it in his whole history from 1848. Um but they I met a lot of people, Sadus, the holy men had um and they just they were open to they said to me all religions are all the same. Yeah, you know. Um, and uh a lot of good descriptions. I'm very curious, Sam, uh probably nosy bugger, but I love to know how I never lost that curiosity as a child, and I think that's my way my work always evolves as well. But I wanted to know one of the guys with me, he um he tried to get me back to Singapore in January to do a uh festival for Lord Mudrigan, and he walks on um he showed me him clogs with darning needles so they stick right through his feet. There's no straps on them. And like 200 fish hooks holding a weight on his shoulders, a skin, and a big knife through his his cheeks. This guy's an engineer in the Navy. Um in Singapore they all speak six languages and um they're all highly educated and they all take part in these for their faith. So um it was a bit mad, it was like being on Discovery Channel. Even when I went into the temple, you had uh you had two nights with no sleep, and then you had to roll round this temple, uh, they hosed you down, your shorts on, then you rolled in grit, and then you'd roll on tails with your arms above your head round for a quarter of a mile, so it's stuck into you like thorns. So in the the dugout the fire pit in gravel, it's two and a half feet deep, twenty foot long, and five thousand compressed hardwood logs on it. So it's like a bloody furnace, this thing. Um so then you take off, and the fire's lit, you take off and you do a six-mile walk in the midday sun. The the the year I don't, there was like a bloody heat wave, so my skin started coming off my feet and blistering on the on the pavement because they're all black tail. Got to the temple, then priests whip you with real whips to whip any fear out of you. And then you come back. Uh you'd walk back again. I was exhausted, agony, and you're sitting outside the temple. I had to be lifted onto my feet to queue up to get in. But also remember, the priest is the first one to do it, the Hindu priest, and he was chatting to some of the officials in the temple, and he looked around and he looked and he went, must have thought I was a tourist, got lost, you know. Um when you get into it, it blows off like a furnace, this thing of guys that's raking it, have sheets soaked in water around them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So the guy behind me was one of these sadus, one of the holy men. He says, the first thing that's gonna gr hit you here is not the fire, it's fear. He says, and if you're doing this for yourself, you won't do it. He says, you'll see a lot of locals walking around it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:He says, so we do this for people who's sick or dying. And uh, but like the Catholic religion with doing penance and stuff, you know. So uh he says, think of your children or somebody and do it for them, not for yourself. Through the floors and then walk. So after three steps of bringing one of the shutdowns, it was that intense, just you had to fight to stay from from collapse. That's the way I felt. I let them run it. I I promised myself I was gonna walk it. And I got off the end and the like milk blessed milk at the end, stood on that, and thought, remember thinking, Thank God, that's over. And then the heat of the fire started coming up my bones. It was like two two Buntson burners up the middle of your legs, stopped about six inches below the don't know what. Well, I grabbed an Indian guy beside me and I was shaking and I was shouting, What's wrong with my legs? What's wrong with my legs? And he started dancing and going, This is good, this is your sin's been cleaned. So I went and I there was ambulances outside, and there's a couple of people fell and stuck to it. And I went out in the door and ambulance, and the guys I was standing, I stand with a family, Sanaya family, um, Tagwai Lane, they they lived in. So they says, No, we're going, we're going for a lift. So they made me walk um through the streets to go and get in this. It was an open back uh lorry. So they were all singing and dancing and playing drums in the back, and I was sitting in the front, smashing my head off the dashboard. I just wanted to get out of my body as well. Got back to the apartment and I started getting into convulsions and stuff, and uh they gave me a tablet, knocked me out. This the sister, she was a nurse. Next morning, no pain, no burns, it just all uh from the walk, no beforehand, but nothing, nothing off the fire. Like uh But that's like even when I come home, people were saying, Oh, it's funny. My friend's wife just had a baby, and she was saying, How can you do that? That's terrible, you know, that's so intense. I says, I've seen babies being born out do that then, yeah. You know, people don't people don't don't realise what they're capable of themselves. That was only a couple of days for me.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Do you know to me um real hardship is like a parent travelling up every day to the hospice to visit their child. It's then we kind of all compare problems with our comfort zone, don't we?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, of course, because I think like when you're in control, when you can control something yourself, it's burnt like you you you literally have the world at your feet when you're in control. When when it's in a situation like that, like you just mentioned, like you're travelling the the hospice if you're dying child, you're you're out of control. Like there's nothing else I could ever compare to that feeling, you know. It's so I think if you if you're not in that position, you're a blast, you know what I mean? It's like it's uh it's a privilege to be in any other like near enough any other comfort zone. Uncomfort like if you're uncomfortable in any other zone, yeah. It's a privilege to be able to just, you know, to be able to go and do what you don't, even if you've got whatever you do that, because of calm.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:It's like it was just I was on a it was part of the journey I was on at the time, like from school that's what got me into boxing actually.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um I got a couple of really bad beatings. Our school was roughly.
SPEAKER_02:What school did you go to?
SPEAKER_00:I saw.
SPEAKER_02:I saw I.
SPEAKER_00:But I had my cheekbone fractured, my nose fractured, a lot of bullying. So I I started boxing for people to leave me alone and it did. Yeah, a lot of fights and then it people realised, you know, yeah boxing, people would leave you alone. But um I only really understood the boxing, I suppose, when I when I I boxed when I was 12, that was 24, and then uh um lot loads of good friends and great characters named this. Some crackers talking earlier. Even down here, you'd Willie Cannon, Johnson Todd, Johnson was a cracker, Willie Todd. Um St. Daggies, you had um Wee Bonesy, Tony, big Tony Curry, um Sean Donnelly, Squirt, um Stevie Hannah, and you'd Plunker, Donny McAllister, Jerry's brother, boy McGuigan. You'd come up and spar him.
SPEAKER_02:Donny had a young son called Danny McAllister as well, Patsy's grandson.
SPEAKER_00:His grandson that would be, but this is Patsy's son.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I know I thought his son, that's why I thought the third generation Danny.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He was good for it as well. He won a couple of titles for him in the Atoms, but I wouldn't have knew him now. I know, no, he he didn't he didn't box for long, he boxed, he was about 18, I think, and he stopped.
SPEAKER_00:But the characters in boxing, you see, is even the All Star Hall offense, like your big Paul Douglas, big Kirk, big Stephen Kirk and all. 15%. Eddie Fisher, Charlie Brown.
SPEAKER_02:Um but you know, people there people always mention like all these names always and don't realise like like how good they were in their diet, you know what I mean? And just with the opportunities that we were given now, they were given the same opportunities we were given now in terms of like going pro and and the profile that we can build for ourselves with social media and stuff like that. Things were different on Ring.
SPEAKER_00:I was watching Eddie the other night, uh, because something on about Eamon McGee and I was saying my son because he'd met Eddie a couple of times in the hospital. Um I mean could never beat Eddie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:As an amateur, like they just come forward, just too fit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and they they fought they both they fought like pros as amateurs. You you see it. Jim Haynes was the same. Yeah, Jim Haynes, uh Bancy. But um no, it's it's uh we were sent down the stores. Like it's today there's more health and safety around boxing, which is fantastic.
SPEAKER_02:And there's more science behind it as well, even if all nutritionalists mean nutrition science is a big I would like I like people go to me, how do you do it? Like when I'm I fought last week and people go to me, how did you meet like I was like say nine or ten pounds over a week before the fit. And people in my gym, like we've got our own gym and they're going just the members are like, how you gonna do it? And there's a science behind it. And I've like, but like what I'm like, there's a s like science, nutrition, you take a fabric, you take carbs out, then the water comes and and then but how you gonna feel in the ring? It's 36 hours recovery, there's a science behind that where you get the carbs, but it's class now. If I'd have known that back when I was an amateur, it would have been so much different. But like we're getting all the benefits it now. So like the like back then when you were boxing with Charlie and all them great fitters, Eddie Fisher, you know, Damien Danny, all them great boxers, they they missed out on learning this because it wasn't advanced back then, you know, it was just old school. That's true. And I still believe there's still a lot of old school coaches and a lot of old school mentality around it, even though there is half and safety. Like, I used to wear a sweatsuit for four or five weeks before championship when I was a kid. There's a photo of me in the club. That's not in the club, Mikey won't put it up. He says, 'Well, we shut down if I put that photo, it's me and I'm like 13. I'm about two stones so quiet for a baseball cap on, sweat that silver sweatsuit on, and just sitting in the corner, like absolutely severely dehydrated.' If you wear it and you were to you were a pound or a half pound, get it get out and run around the block, stick it on.
SPEAKER_00:Get in the sauna, yeah. There is more opportunities today. And looking back to, you know, I was in and in there boxing because as I say, my my objective for boxing was for people it made you feel safe, feel strong. It wasn't to win things. I won an Autumn Roster title, but um you just you just sort of turned up. It wasn't the way it is. There wasn't the opportunities back then. Yeah. I always remember we Jim, we Jim Webb, we had it all started together, Shimmy Deeds, best old carton called rest of them. Um we we Jim, like he was just consistent all the time. We didn't drink, he didn't, you know. We'd have been in there, got girlfriends, and you disappeared and then you come back to boxing with Jim was just and I it's dude bam, Joe Lowe was another one. Joe was a cracker. Me and Joe good friends grew up together. Very talented, you know. Yeah, but it's a it's a great, it's I work with a lot of sports. Um, I work with like pro golfers, um, any type of athlete doesn't the way I look at when I work with people, I'm working with their nervous system, that's it. And I'm trying to make the invisible visible, make it subjective, because you know, what is an emotion? What's the mind? It's like talking about the bloody wind. They don't understand it. So my job is to let them experience it and even let them experience you hear people talking about the unconscious and the subconscious, it's the irrational mind, it's 88% of your total mind, and it controls about 11 million functions a second in your body. I introduce them to it in their first session, let them experience it, and I give them a blueprint and how to work with it, because if you're not working with it, it can sabotage a lot. Yeah, maybe not even in their sport, but in their relationships and their health, yeah. So it's I've I've always kept it very ABC. Um, anything I've anything I've learned over the years of try just to make it smaller and easier to use so that you can give it to anybody. Yeah, so it's more than a lot for people like yeah. Kids are great teachers. See if you say you take a kid's workshop and you're showing them stuff that you think's great and you've been using with you know a lot of adults or elite athletes, a lot of them will say, I don't know what you're talking about, or I I can't feel anything, or this is a load of rubbish. Just not to escape. I remember um teaching sports hypnosis in Birmingham to a group, and it must it must have been about 30 kids there. And uh I says, Why don't you just close your eyes and just imagine? See the football pitch in front of you, see who's on it, blah blah blah. And about half of them opened their eyes and said, We can't see anything, it's dark. So we're going right. How do you teach somebody to visualize who believes they can't visualize? They'll always cause you to go back into your work and And go back into the fundamentals. It's the same, I suppose, with coaching, but talk to any coaches. And it was only I only started really understanding the science behind boxing. When I coached, I coached with Fitzy over 30 years ago down the doctor's club.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Who Eamon and Richard Bronigan always are, and Stevie McCluskey. Um so um it's when you're sort of getting back to basics. I think as adults, most people skip that. Yeah. I want the good stuff, I don't have it in the board. But that's that's the fundamental when I when I started with McGee, sure. I'd already been boxing. Front age, I want the Mickey. I must have been 21, maybe. Um McGee started me footwork again.
SPEAKER_02:That's it does with everybody. Like back to basics. You know? Kikati left Plunkett, joined Holy Trinity, and we've all ranged in the gym. Feet work, catchy. He hates it. He hates training anyway, at one, but he was like, feet work drills, he wouldn't do it. Mickey was like your feet work.
SPEAKER_00:Every all M old coaches, and and they're married to it, as you know. It's it's their love in life, it's their their blood. But they'll all specialise in different parts, you know. Um like Patsy still coach, Patsy must be their night, isn't it? Um it's just that's uh that's their lifeline, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's they stop they're probably thinking the knowledge they have.
SPEAKER_00:They they probably don't know what they know.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's back then.
SPEAKER_00:Experience they have, the the like the traveling they've done, the the teams they've coached, the boxers they've coached, the it's and it's a practice like uh it's well known that you know, past ten thousand hours of practice you're at mastery level. Yeah, many thousands of hours have been practicing. Oh, that's some watching and observing and constantly thinking about their sport of boxing. I know that's and you you get I suppose you bring your own background into it as well. I've um uh what I do uh in working with people on the on the the pledge psychology, I have a whole background of other stuff I've done as well. So nobody's the same, even a sports psychologist or a physiotherapist if they're trained in other things, they're gonna bring that into their background. Yeah, nobody works the same. It's like learning to drive or learning to box, everybody's a different style, everybody's different strengths.
SPEAKER_02:Everyone puts their own we twist on it. But if they're comfortable with there's always a week, better comfort in everything you do. Even if you're taught it like a robot, like from scratch, you'll you'll you know, let's say, for example, a coach, let's say you've never boxed in your life and you're a 21-year-old man, right? And you come to someone and you're told exactly how to do it from the feet work right out of your hands, where you put your hands, if you feel like it's forced to keep your hands here the way the coach is showing you to do it, you'll let the elbow swimming because it's more comfortable and that will be your like that's your style.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Rather than the coach showing you no, you're elbows hitting tight, your turn has to be down. But if you feel like that's forced and it's not comfortable to stay in this position for a full three-round fight, you'll eventually just come back into that relaxed state, which's more comfortable for you in between attacks or in between, and then that becomes your style. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:It's unconscious habits, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Even even if I show kids how to box, I get them to walk, and then I say when they're walking back down, say stop. That's what your mind's used to. I say at distance.
SPEAKER_02:That's it, that's where feeling.
SPEAKER_00:I suppose we'll I have a background in plague kinesiology. Because I have like 37 years in musculoskeletal therapies before I started working with people's heads. Uh from the east on the west. And the last one I've done was a plague kinesiology, so it it looks at electrical, emotional, nutritional, and structural imbalances within the system because they're the four systems, main systems. And they're always blowing fuses. You're always it's like we're a bit like the man spinning the plates in the circus. You can spend too much time over here, and these plates all start start falling. So and the the way they they use it is by isolating the 44 postural muscles in the body that are used, you know, with every activity. Um they all work in groups, but if you isolate one away from the group and test it, it should hold. It shouldn't move. Well, it's a pectoris major, clavicular, subscapularis, tarys minor. They all have to so they're all linked to the nervous system. So if you get one and it's not holding, and it's breaking that link in the kinetic chain, they're gonna the athlete's gonna lose power. So you can go actually go in and ask why is this why is this muscle not doing its job? So is it electrical? You'd need acupuncture session. Is it is it emotional? Because the limbic center and the brain mediate the emotions and it's a direct connection to the pituitary gland, the master, and the crane gland, the chemical receptors, um, and the hypothalamus, blood pressure, heart rate, etc. All the unconscious things that keep you alive. So the if somebody has um extreme emotions, say they worry constantly, or the their fear, everybody's fear, but if it's too high, then it starts to cause them to freeze or or suppresses their potential, knocks off their coordination. Some people don't get that that level, there's some some do depend on their personality and that. Um so it's great for getting in and finding and fixing, and that's how I actually got into working with the mind, because there was uh the the athletes I see would be seasonal depending on what they're doing. And there's a there's a time of the year I see loads of Irish dancers, right? Just all Irish dancers getting ready for the world championships. So I I would uh had a whole lot in developing muscle imbalances in their legs. They were getting injuries, they were falling, they don't usually fall, I were getting tired very quick. And uh so I would find and fix, and then one of their teachers came to me, we galvin Doherty, and says, What are you doing with these dancers? Because there's people winning things, they shouldn't be winning anything. So I told him and he said, Could you do this with a group? And I says, I don't know, sure. Like get the group and and model down. So I got the whole class together. That was my first workshop, and then he and then was a big secret. So he only told his best friends, yeah. In London and then I was in London one time, guy phoned me and was going back to get work and says, Are you the guy that works with with the dancers' heads and etc. I says he says if you hang on and run two workshops. So he ran two, and then I bumped into him in Manchester. We were away for a weekend, me and Jackie, and he was standing with a load of American women, and he says, You want to get this guy out the States, see the difference he's making. So two weeks later I was in Chicago and then for 13 years.
SPEAKER_02:That's cool.
SPEAKER_00:There were flamby all over America and Canada for 13 years, working with all the top level microphones that went on the Leed River dance, Florida. Everybody thought I danced. And they used to they like see the dance tape.
SPEAKER_02:It's good where you're so open to having all so many sports people always think when you know when you have a background in something, you automatically let's say you're a main coach, right? Um, or a life coach, whatever it is, and you want to go into that background of boxing because that's where you're comfortable, but you're not, you're you're open to every it's the main, it doesn't matter what you do in life.
SPEAKER_00:It's because I I see humans as a walking nervous system, but it it has frequencies in it, and um you can tune in to different frequencies. Yeah. I say I developed that 20 years ago trying to explain to kids about the nervous system. So it's like having a light switch dimmer. If if the frequencies are too low, then it's you don't get much energy. People get tired very quickly, they they lose uh posture and movement, their timing goes off, they lose strength, and they mayn't even be aware of it, but unconsciously the mind's aware of it and it's sending a message to the brain. I'm not strong, therefore I'm not safe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So the stress levels get even higher. So good thing about the nervous system is you can only feel one thing at once. You can't be hot and cold, you can't be happy and sad, you can't feel self-doubt and self-belief. So my job is to teach them what you need to put in there to replace it, because you can't get rid of it, you can only change the frequency. Here's a simple process and how to do that. All I all I give people is a process because I can't give you the training, the practice, the dedication, the years you've put in it. That's not my job. My job is to stop you sabotaging parts of it. So I only need to know w where the what I call the dips are.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's all. If I'm looking at a golfers are when you take them out, all I do is tell you how great they are and what they're good at. I say I don't give a shit what you're good at. I only want to know what you hate. Yeah, the shots you hate taking, who you hate playing against, and the weather you hate playing at. That's it. I ain't gonna fill in the gaps. That's that's my job. Keep being good at what you're great at, just don't don't let me know what I'm crying, just keep being good at it. That's it. I'm like a dentist. I only see people when they're in pain.
SPEAKER_02:Because like me and Fateweek, I always feel like they're they're working to people's company and they're on this like frequency, like at their energy is like way up here, and you're just like, I'm not in that level. And you're just like, how do I get the hip out? I want I don't even want to be on that level.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You're like people are just like, well, man, they're like here, look at this, and look at that, and I'm like, fuck. See, like fate week for me, obviously I take out carbohydrates from nutrition, take out fibre, and then the water starts to drop fate week, so my energy just goes right down and I try to save my energy for when I need it for training, because obviously you'll be exhausted, you're dehydrated, you're trying to sweat more ease, you're trying to take weight off. When I'm around people and they're up here, they can't get it. People don't get it when I'm with them. They're like talking they're trying and I'm like going, oh like and they're probably going, What's wrong with him? Like they'll be I I often get looks with people from people being like, Are you alright? They go, like, I'm just you just don't get it. And it's hard to explain to people. Like I'm not being a bad dad and it's only temporarily, but I just can't be anyway.
SPEAKER_00:You're gonna end the zone, aren't you?
SPEAKER_02:There's times where like you like what I've learned from the last couple of features of give energy the people like it. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm having a lot now, and when it comes to training, I'm like just shut. It's like talking to effort. Talking to these people and giving them that energy is like, oh, I'm tired. I just like and it's it's it's something now that I'm very aware of, which I was never aware of before, is like energy, like when to use it. Yes. I'm very aware of when to use the right energies around the right the right people. I feel like you think people have this thing where you just energy, you just train, people just train. See if you train you're on a higher energy the rest of the day, simple as that. Yeah. So like obviously we uh like me having my own gym and having like fucking cloak a hundred members in our gym, trying to explain that to them is like or trying to explain the new people to come into our gym. Like we're we've opened a new uh facility in the city centre and you're you're you're making sales calls. Ah don't like never trained before in the ground like come in and train the group. And see where your energy goes to and see how much more productive are and see how easier your job gets and see how easy you sleep and see how more beneficial your life becomes from just training because your energy will just raise with the training you're in. And uh it's it's trying to teach people that because I I experience it from the highs and the lows. Even when you're boxing, you're fighting, you're buzzing and you win, and it's like but then that's where a lot of people go into retirement and going to you know going to mental health issues and take drugs and we were talking about it. Because I'm now consciously starting to be aware of I don't get a tip. Honestly, I I don't like I won't I was in Monte Carlo at the weekend and a great performance and a lot and loads of people like messaging me, hundreds of messages, and I make sure I go through every one of them just to thank everybody and I've done that and I'm walking through Santa and and people are like no, it's like cheers, cheers, cheers. Like it's there's no like dip, it's not like oh it's over now, fucking like I I'm happy. Yeah, and and I'm just content with what I like and I've just put my focus now back into the gym where we're gonna renovate another gym and whatever, you know, it's just so much I just try and I'd say you've more than boxing in your life.
SPEAKER_00:We were speaking about that before, just downstairs where you were saying Well a lot of people if it's just their life like it was years ago. Um I've said a lot of coaches I know um I was talking to Ralph McKay or St. Paul's about and he's always encouraging kids to go and get a trade and this you're gonna box your whole life. Yeah. And it's it shouldn't be your whole life. Because in the past, uh and you probably know a lot of your friends too, after boxing, because uh because it's such an extreme sport, yeah, people don't box and never they've never experienced it, that that how extreme it can be. And then all of a sud and plus most people box, as I said earlier, they to feel more confident and they have a sense of achievement in the community, um, you know, and have that that purpose and then when they stop it's taken away. So where do you get your confidence from now? So a lot of them will start drinking or you know, self-medicating. Um and even we were we were chatting the other week about why a lot of Xboxers would be very quick to fight when they're out if they're drinking. Yeah, and they've us they've uh associated their whole life to hitting things or hitting people to gain your confidence. So if somebody's talking down to them or making them feel small, what's the first reaction's gonna make them feel confident?
SPEAKER_02:Just hit them, hit them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So you need to learn other ways and on how to solve that, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But uh and that's what I think on Z before you know what you're fucking 50 years of age, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Some young fucking in the bar, he probably never threw a pause in his life, and you're an action champion.
SPEAKER_02:And then you put your reliant on that because you've always known that.
SPEAKER_01:Next thing you know, a fucking your comments is gonna go even lower because you can at 20 is gonna beat you up.
SPEAKER_00:Even with the kids when I when I go and do the the workshops with the the boxers around uh the town, um I was down Guildford Boxing Club or just uh Bernard Commissary, yeah. I was down twice with his crowd, and so I'd say the kids some of I says, Look, the life lessons you're getting out of your sport is phenomenal, and you don't even realise it. But later on, if you have to go for an interview, do exams, or maybe you have to make that decision, maybe you want to go to university. Yeah, yeah. Um, then the the this anxiety is nothing compared to the fear that you've been facing all your life getting into that ring. That a lot of people won't experience that that type of fear if you want to start your own business, uh, you know, risk management. Oh, that's that's there, but you have to remind yourself I've dealt with this frequency before. Yeah, this isn't as bad, I can do this. How do you know you can do this? Because I've been doing that for years, I can take that into this. Yeah, but most people won't see that crossover. So my job is to point it out to them. You know, if you can who gets up and goes up for a run before you go to school, most most boxers and why didn't so you have the discipline to do that, so you can discipline yourself to do anything. There's 7.5 billion people on the planet, less than 1% have ever got in a ring.
SPEAKER_02:Crazy, huh?
SPEAKER_00:I say so you are very unique people, but you need to see yourself as that that unique individual. Yeah, um, so I always seen it's sort of pointing out it's the obvious and making things common sense, you know, and that's what I see as as what I do, you know. Um the breaking records and all is easy, like and that that's only the start to get them interested. And I can take any athlete at any level. If you want to do it with you someday, I take your personal best strength and endurance, and I'll smash it on the first. I've done it over and over again. I can do it with fighters, don't with done it on video with Cage Fighter. Uh I was asked to take part in a documentary, The Fight In and Out of the Ring. And my one of my old websites I used to have on it, if I can't smash your personal best, you don't pay me. And a guy phoned me from Anaconda Productions in LA and he was making this documentary, and he says, That's a big boast. And I says, It's not a boast, mate, it's fact. It's a fact. So he says, I'm gonna send you up a camera crew, and how are you gonna do this? I says, give me a cage fighter, and uh, and we'll we'll look at some of his his strength. Um so they give me uh Peter Slam Duncan, and uh he had to lift his max and clean a jerk upon his head, and then the camera crew went and put£20 on it, and I went, That's too much of a jump on somebody's max. Yeah. And it says it has to look you know really good on the camera. So I thought this is gonna go down like a lead balloon here. So I sat Peter down to talk to him, and I says, Everything I tell you is gospel, don't question it. Look at the floor and just listen to my voice. So I talked to him for 10 minutes and I got up and he he smashed it, put it above his head, and I I was more surprised than that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, fuck no, fuck.
SPEAKER_00:But if you can tap into parts of the the mind, the irrational mind is is gives you that extra boost. If and that's why I knew and I f flew all over the world with top dancers, I knew because it was the same promise of if you give me 30 elite dancers, if I can't enhance their scores and their endurance and their power in the session, you don't pay me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I and I'd done that for 13 years because I knew they they all had sports psychologists, nutritionalists, and they trained like Olympic athletes now, but I knew they weren't tapping into the part of the mind that I was going to be tapping into. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I remember you'd done something Ross years ago, and we try to remember.
SPEAKER_00:Were you up at that, right?
SPEAKER_02:The jump, was it? Yeah, the jump. Yes, I was the yeah, so it was measured. Yeah, it was our. I think I thought Kikatchi was there too, wasn't it? 14 maybe. Younger, 20 years old, yeah. But uh yeah, I remember going like jump, jump your ass, like give it your all, jump, touch their touch a wall, or stick something a wall. Yeah, and then you've made us happen to like sit there and close your eyes, think about jumping higher, you'll think about and and I actually jumped high as well. Yeah, so I was going to fuck right.
SPEAKER_00:So it's better felt and dealt because a lot of people just talk, but you you have to let people experience, you know, even the negative, okay. Bring in your worries and your doubts and your fears and that, and then do it, and it's just crap. I know it's and then do it in the zone you're sorry, in the comfort zone when your gym. Yeah, and then do it under. So it's it's building them up and then you pressure train them, you know. So you once you get good at it, then I have to try and really put if it's a singer or don't I get everybody to boo them, there's no music and shout, uh, golfers through bit.
SPEAKER_02:Who? Michael Artera, the football coach for Arsenal. He's uh he's a manager, Arsenal manager? Okay. They done a documentary on-prem, and he brought these big massive speakers in, didn't he? And uh he made them hit a p was the penalties?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was something like that. I can't remember what it was specifically, but it was just like so rogue.
SPEAKER_02:It was like fucking like with basically just saying Boon and Crow and all these like spectators behind him on a projector screen and fucking literally slandering these footballers, making them hit palties during that pressure.
SPEAKER_00:That's how you know if it's sunk into the unconscious, it's reactive, you don't have time to think. Yeah. So uh that's how you can test it. It's the same as a couple of friends in the Foreign Legion all our life, and the workout and Big Dad. When we left school, there was no work, and they all just headed off and stayed there. But we were one of them as home where I was talking to him, Paul, about the training and why it's so intense. And he was saying uh when a fire fit fight kicks off, you know, and there's there's blast bombs uh flash bombs and f flash grenades and stuff going off in the shooting, and you don't have time, you have to react. You don't have time for it.
SPEAKER_02:Muscle memory, it's almost like muscle. Muscle memory just kicks out like that.
SPEAKER_00:And it's like and that's why boxing's so elite compared to a lot of a lot of sports have skill sets, yeah, and you you can carry it out. There's nobody punching you in the bloody face to try and stop you carrying it out.
SPEAKER_02:Not to have time to think. Like if you like you were a golf, right? Yeah, golf you have to go up. Think a shot. That's me going. Yeah, fuck me, hang on, let's do that water.
SPEAKER_01:You put a lake you put a leg in front of me and I'm going. The pins are the legs are lake.
SPEAKER_02:Even if I turn and turn completely away from the lake. I ain't going, I ain't gonna dead leg. Do you know what I mean? Whereas if I'm in a boxing ring, someone tells the punch is just reactive. Yeah. There's no time, it just happens naturally because it's muscle memory of not that many people.
SPEAKER_00:And that's you get it's like don't think of an elephant train not to think of a big elephant with big ears in the trunk. It's just uh you know. So you have to you have to train yourself to replace it.
SPEAKER_02:Do you feel like golf would be one of the more like the more like we're one of the bigger sports where it's where psychology use the most, I would say, probably, would you say it is?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, um, I have a lot of friends play golf. One of them's a pro, Colin Bale. And he coaches pros and stuff. And uh I was asked the f I wrote a book, when I couldn't work for six months after Jaggy. So I wrote a book for the dance world. I I wrote, I've written four or five books. But the the first the first one um when I brought it to Sport NA, they launched it for me at the waterfront and said the marketing team says, Can you not write this for all sports? This is a blueprint for personal development through sport. So they kept saying, Well, write it for golf. And I don't I work with golfers, but of no interest only in on their performance, not the game. So I says, Okay, well, I'll I'll rewrite it for golf. So I had the send it to my mates when I wrote it um for them to put the golf bits in. Yeah, because I don't play it. You don't know, yeah. And Colin, he was laughing. He says, Sean, you call it a bunker, you don't call it a sandpit. Oh, so uh when I brought the book back up again, there was a new director, and he says, What do you want me to do with this? I said you just told me to write it. So um I have it as a PDF. It's up on Amazon. I don't have the the paper back. I used to get them printed for the golf tours that the that they they run in the town with Belfast City sexy in, and they would have given them out coaches it is I work for him and say I worked for City City for years. It was Paul. Paul used to get me to print Paul Cunningham. I work for three years, like I had to work behind the scenes with all the directors for three years just yeah, um because another side of it's not sport, but with business, a friend of mine would run a uh a business group, a three to five business group, and her to build businesses in three to five years. Yeah. But it's all processes, but a lot of people don't carry out the process. So he used to bring he was bringing me in for years to talk to all the business owners on why you're not doing this.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So over the years I've been picking up all his processes and strategies for building businesses. So they they'd have had me in for three years. Oh wow they've done phenomenal work, like from what they started with on real.
SPEAKER_02:They're they're flannin. It's good to see as well, because they're weak people, like you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of golfers, even the the the the pros and all the clubs, they would all study uh main training, NLP, and sports hypnosis and different things.
SPEAKER_02:What where do you enjoy working most? What's like what were is it the dancing? Would the dancing be one of your most enjoyable or is it just is it?
SPEAKER_00:I like hard cases. I like hard cases. I like people, I like people swerking under pressure. Like um I was asked to work with um Fanula Sherry, she's one of the world's greatest violinists. And it was a friend of mine, John Heenan, runs that business group is in France, and bumped into them. And her husband was saying that her career was deemed over. She was taking severe panic attacks, wouldn't go on stage, and she was forgetting her numbers and stuff. And uh so he said, I he said, John says, I know we man in Belfast, I'll fix you. And the husband says she's already seen a lot of experts, and you know, they can't do anything. And John went, Nah, rubbish. So we were going down to Dublin and then heading on to Galway for one of his meetings, and I says, Phone that that fella and save his wife's about you, I'll have a chat with her. So I met them in the Four Seasons Hotel, Baldsbridge there, and she was telling me everybody she'd seen and what they were doing. And I says, Look, there's a name for people like that. I'm not gonna say it in front of a woman, but it's nonsense. Uh you know, just people charging expert money, yeah, but not doing anything really to help her. So I says, Look, I need to be working with my work's all applied psychology. You need to be playing your violin when I'm working with you. So she kept putting it off and putting it off. And the panic she went to launch her album in Germany and forgot her first number in front of all her sponsors. So got that bad. She actually fell and broke both her arms. Talk about an unconscious push.
SPEAKER_02:I'm playing Valin Murphy.
SPEAKER_00:God, but uh like our whole this was her whole life, you know. So I get I I before she got the pins and out of her wrists and elbows and that, I says, I'm gonna go down and and do a bit of work with you in her apartment. Because they would try they live between Norway, France, and and Dublin. So uh even when she lifted it, the first day her body started tightening up, you know. So I says, Look, you you have to remember you're not broke, you're stuck. We're gonna get you unstuck. There's nothing really here to fix. So I'd done I'd done three sessions with her down at Dublin, and then she went, she flew to Norway and played for 10,000 people, and then she flew to Korea and played for 25,000 people. But it was on her third session when she picked the violin. All of her stood up. You ever be beside an opera singer or somebody can really play music? Like, whoa. And I say, Is that you in the zone? And she says, How do you know you don't even play music? I says, I felt it, and that's what people are paying in to watch you.
SPEAKER_02:We're gonna all see it, but you want to feel it.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't feel it, I didn't feel in the first time I down was down because you didn't feel anything, only fear, you know. So it's I I I love my work and I love I look at it like a puzzle, yeah. And um and I don't see anybody as broke, you know. Uh it's i there are times when people can't have a real mental breakdown, and and that's why I was saying earlier, I love the this stuff belongs with the kids. See, just that trans transition from P7 into first year is very, very important, and it can change their whole life, all the decisions they make, and hopefully they will not go down the path of depression or self-harm. Because again, um like year 2000, I was managing a fitness suite for Royal Mail, one manager of the year in Great Britain for the work I was doing, you know, a sports clinic, a sports injury clinic, and all in it. I had my martial arts class going, it was doing well, everyone was fantastic, and then my youngest brother, who was one of my best friends, came home and he took his own life, you know. Um, and when that happens, the whole family was in the shock. Everybody even was friends, and how can somebody go from here to here and nobody spots the symptoms? That's crazy. How can you go? Uh how can there's still a lot of ignorance around um suicide? We've the biggest epidemic here in Europe with children. But if if I have a hot spoon and I come out you sean you move, that's rational thought. So why is there kids out there sitting having thoughts of cutting themselves, harming themselves, taking their own life? That's it, that's a different part of the mind. That's a rational mind, that unconscious.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Um, and there's a way to work with it. And if you can get them, especially before the age of 16, you're reprogramming it and giving them the tools to have a better quality of life. Yeah. It's they're not and you know yourself in in boxing, not everybody's gonna be a champion, but why the hell should they not feel like a champion their whole life?
SPEAKER_02:100%. Like the epidemic here? Like what are you like starting?
SPEAKER_00:See these pro these programmes should be in all schools. Like I I've started work, I was working in workforce for six months, they contracted me in with teenagers. Uh now they're all a bit older, and uh with people first at the minute, with our counsellor teaching teachers emotional intelligence and how to work with kids with neurodiversity. A lot of kids now have autism, Osbergers, yeah, even thought of years ago.
SPEAKER_02:You weren't even you were just made to go out and like I I've probably used this year before on a podcast, but like James McLean found out in later life that when his his daughter had autism, so he says that's I have, and he went and he has autism. Yeah. He's professional footballer. He probably wouldn't even made it that far if he was labelled with autism as a young kid. You know what I mean? Because then it's like you're you're you're I feel like you're still made to go into certain you're still your past near enough pay for you because you've got autism. Everybody's on the spectrum. There's like a third on the scale, everybody. I'm about 99p short of apparent.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we all are content.
SPEAKER_00:It's funny.
SPEAKER_01:I'm hocking up in 99p shortly apparent.
SPEAKER_00:Well, if you were getting through all the symptoms of the new diversity for the T and you know, uh ADHD and that there, and you're looking at it and you're reading it, and you're going, That's me.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know what I mean? And screw that's a fucking thing.
SPEAKER_00:But everybody's unique and everybody has their strengths, you know what I mean? So it's celebrating your own life, who the hell am I? You have to that's the biggest thing. You have to understand who you are, you have to value yourself because not everybody will like us, yeah. Not everybody wants to know us, but as long as you like yourself, you know all about you because uh people and you hear a lot in sport, you need to he needs to believe in himself more. But if you ask the individual telling him that, you say, What's a belief? Yeah, go, you know what I mean? A belief? No, what the hell is it? Because he doesn't know, so why do you keep telling me he needs to believe in himself? A belief is a feeling, it's a very important feeling, but it comes you only believe in something when you've studied it. Yeah, so it's only when you study yourself you start to believe in yourself. So self-knowledge is everything, it's your foundation for as a human, for for a healthy, happy life. Yeah, you know. So if you understand who you are, all the good things, the bad things, and it and what you're uh even what people call a weakness, there's no such thing as a weakness, it's something you haven't practiced. But even so somebody points it out, oh you're not good at such and such. You go, well, big deal. I know I'm not good at it because I don't practice it.
SPEAKER_02:I know, exactly it. That's about not supposed to be next, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:So it's it's building that that because especially young ones want to fit in, they want to be everything for everybody.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And if you don't know who the hell you are, it's a dangerous place to be. Because then you're leaving it up to everybody else out there to put their perception on who they think you are. Some people just think you're an arsehole.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, exactly. And that's all right.
SPEAKER_01:I like the arsehole. I'm over here and I love them.
SPEAKER_00:It has to they have to get to the point where if you if you like me, that's good. If you don't like me, sorry, you're gonna have to deal with that because I can't be everything for everybody.
SPEAKER_02:It's like um we were talking about earlier, like the kids you'll get kids, I've seen this loads if loads of people I know who've gone up to be their good river. Yeah, then they get to a certain level, and it's like they can't deal with not being the the main man. Yeah. Everything like you know, that can be parents and it can be personality. So like we were saying about you were saying to me earlier with Glasgow, about or about uh Scotland, the footballers of Scotland getting the you know.
SPEAKER_00:And a lot of footballers get dropped from teams or don't make it premiership and uh take their own life.
SPEAKER_02:But they've got their sights at on it from a young age, they ain't gonna be a footballer, I ain't gonna be playing for fucking club Celtic or you know, and then they get to maybe 16, 17, and then it's like fuck he's not getting called up or he's not getting in the squad or and then it's just stare around.
SPEAKER_00:They put all their eggs in one basket. And you have to like you said earlier about um faith. Funny came into my head, I was asked to speak to Big Tays and Fury when he was over here boxing. Um the King's Hall, I think it might have been a second proof fight, I can't remember. But was up in the Malone Lodge Hotel, yeah, and uh I yeah, I came in, he was sitting with his manager, and I says, Tayson, he went, Yeah, I says, I was asked to come and speak to you. So he came down to the table and he's he's very sort of jailish, and he was oh what's all it's about? I says, Well, I was asked to come up and talk to you, we but it's a wee bit like sports psychology, yeah. And he went, That sounds great, what's that? And I says, Well, look, if you have any doubts or is anything you're not sure of, any wee sort of fears, and he he just looked up and he says, I think I'm all right, you know. I says, You sure now? He says, Yeah, I've Jesus in my corner, I don't need anybody. And I went, Well, you can't argue with it. I says, You have that, that's that's fantastic. So good luck tomorrow night, you know.
SPEAKER_02:100%, and that's what people like. She doesn't believe in sports psychology, she really isn't she she's faith. Yeah, hers is her faith. She has faith.
SPEAKER_00:It's faith, faith in the self and faith in a hair. Like, even it's only when you go through, see the whole all the psychology, all the unconscious work, and then there has to be more. But you have to go through all that first to understand. Like, when Jackie was in a coma, all my knowledge, I felt like worthless. All the knowledge I had absolutely was useless. And even all the the specialists were saying, Don't waste your time. But I'm a great believer in the in the there's a the heart has its own brain. I don't know if you've heard of it before. Um the the the heart develops before the brain in the fetus, and it is about 500 times more electromagnetic energy than the brain in your head, and it sends more messages every day to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. The heart reacts to emotions as well first, so it tells the brain how it should react and how it should think. They started studying the brain heart 40 years ago because they noticed heart transplant patients took on the donors' memories and their cravings and stuff. But then there's uh uh there's a thing called the heart math. They study it, and they're full of neurologists and surgeons and doctors and that. So um you can actually it when these two connect, it's called coherence. Every system in the body's in their zone working the way it should work. There's only there's only a couple of frequencies, emotions that connect these two. I love a machine can measure now. One of them is unconditional love, that's why people love animals. Don't criticize you, judge, you know. And the other one's infants, yeah, and the other one is gratitude, being grateful for what you have, who you are, where you are, and what you are in life, and who you have around you. Once you you focus on them, you can see these two connecting on the machine.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think of one of the machines in Jordan's town. I was on one in Limerick, and I was trying to trick the machine, doing hypnosis, doing meditation. It wouldn't move. Only when you focused on gratitude, then it moved from red, blue, and then into green. And the the lady says, Mitch, you you've just connected the heart brain. Every morning. And funny, my granny always said count your blessings before you go out the door. And that's it's gratitude. But that's that's what I believe took Jackie out of the coma when they told me she wasn't coming out. I talked to her heart every day. Yeah, and and I I talked to her heart and then it would talk to the brain. And then you somewhere inside. There's a there's there's an intelligence that people can't explain, you know, um Holy Spirit, or call call it whatever you want. Everybody will um even see the coherence with the heart. See we're all sitting in a room, it's 20 of us, and you're in a corner and you're just reading the newspaper, but you're wired up to the machine, and we're all practicing gratitude. You connect, you because that transference. Yeah. Yeah, that transference. Ever everybody's interconnected.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I recently just again not not not through any reason. I just feel like I've just been more grateful than ever. Do you know what? I had a I was the earlier ring, no fights, and everyone was asking me what's happening. Or it wasn't hard, I couldn't get a fight. Like I fought in New York and I fought Barbosa and I was robbed, I was meant to go on and fighters and all, and it was just but it was the aftermath, you know. The fate itself wasn't so bad. It was just not getting a fight, not knowing when I was gonna fight, not knowing what was next. But I I kept training and I was always training and people were going to me in that same thing, like I was near for dinner and then having a few paints. And it was like every weekend, and it was just all week I would train, and I'd be in the gym all week now. Saturday I'd go to their room and go for dinner. It's like it was just my way of going for dinner so I could have a paint, but it was like it was almost like near enough retard. But it wasn't retarded because when people were asking me when are you fitting again? I was like, fuck, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:See after that performance people will avoid you. Yeah, so it was like Tommy, why Tommy Hearns I call you.
SPEAKER_02:But it was I was wired.
SPEAKER_00:But it's funny in boxing. See when you box, like Billy Cannon always but like you see guys that come in musley. You thought, How about this?
SPEAKER_02:See the long wiry ones with the labors and speech oh shitbox spin in the corner But like that whole year was like fucking up and down and it was just the same sick all the time people ask me Oh is retired you fucking retired and I wasn't it was annoying me it was doing my heading and then obviously this year Junior started fighting again I got a fight again and September won a European title and then fought again last week and then just from that I just think from the opportunity to come to just to to c to get back into it, get back in the swingings and still perform at a level uh in the standard that I had for myself before I didn't fight for a full year. Like I didn't lose anything. I I I'm still as good as ever was. And I'm just more grateful now for the opportunities now and I'm more uh I'm more appreciative for for what I'm getting now because of the year off and how hungry I was within that year for the opportunity. And now that it's here, I'm just like like uh subconsciously just practicing gratitude all the time, or even in just driving a car and like I I just remind myself of how grateful I am to be where I am again now, yeah. And and how smooth life's going with it. The benefits of everything else, like I'm not going out for dinner and going for paints every weekend and the the gym's going well and my family life's happy at home and like it's just it's just everything's just connected now, and it's just through gratitude and through like everything else, it's come like it's a powerful emotion.
SPEAKER_00:It's a powerful emotion, even especially it's it's important people only use stuff like that when they're doing well, but it's very important to do it when you're not doing well, if things aren't going well, you know, if somebody's know work on or they've lost somebody, and it's I suppose it's back to it's a glass half full or half empty. But when you know the benefits of constantly looking for the gratitude and things, even you you see kids, and you've probably done it yourself and I'd have done it, maybe taking the huff or you know, if you if you lost the decision in boxing, um that's not fair, I'm not packing it in now. Instead of going to a coach and going, you know, what did I do right today? What can I improve on? What can we work on for the next one? And I would even say to kids, doesn't matter what the sport is, see if somebody comes in front of you, go over and shake their hand, say, Listen, thank you for letting me know I need to practice more. I'll see you next year. Yep, 100%. Probably think you're nuts, but it's a good way to be. It's it's a good way to be able to do it. It doesn't cost anything, you know, because all the lower frequencies are really bad for the organs. Like if you go into all organs of frequencies, and you know, even somebody that worries constantly, like the Chinese and the Ayurvatic medicine from India are based on the emotions and the elements and the seasons and that. But somebody worries constantly, the worry is on the stomach and spleen channel, they develop stomach ulcers or irritable bowel syndrome, somebody's constant fear, it burns out the adrenal glands, affects the kidneys, they end up with weak joint, sciatica, apathy, very low energy, and apathy is a breeding ground for depression. Yeah, no energy, no motivation. Um, the liver be related to anger. People that damage their liver with alcohol or too much drugs are very aggressive, angry people. You know, uh the heart is joy, heart and small intestine. Somebody lacks joy in their life, very serious, no time for joy, they end up with heart conditions. You know, so it's all uh it's all all you have to focus on is if you're talking about the emotions, the top three courage, acceptance, and the contentment. People think they want to be happy, people just want to be content. Happiness is up and down, yeah, contents are all the time, and you're content as an infant. You it's a has frequency you can experience as a human.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But it's always there, it just fluctuates, but it's there as a child. So if it's there, you can you can go and get it again through the process. Courage comes out for other people. Like I I trained the um new recruits coming into the fire fabricate, yeah. You're training about your road. And they said they brought me in to teach them resilience. Um, but I talk to them, it's about courage. If it's just about you and there's fear, you'll not make good decisions. Your breathing patterns are very s sporadic and your body'll be weaker.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But courage is the same strength as anger, but with anger it'll make you strong, but it gives you cognitive ability with chimpanzee, right? So courage, most most humans use fear and anger because for safety, run away or feel strong and fight. But courage firemen will go into a burning house only if there's a child in it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. If somebody can't swim, won't jump in the river. But if a child falls in, bang, go straight in. So courage is uh it's a better breathing pattern. Uh you make better decisions, the men's calmer, and it makes you strong as if you're in great anger. So courage, acceptance, accept yourself, who you are, what you are, where you are, and then that inner con the we the the inner contentment peace. When you get we snippets of it, usually on holiday or sitting on a you know, sitting on a mountain. Yeah. But you still experience it. And if you if you go back into the memories, when you experienced it, you'll release it again. Yeah. You know, so there's simple, simple things that you can anybody can use.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's just uh being in temple. But when you're I think like from even for me, I I if I wasn't to achieve anything else for the rest of my life, I'd be I'm content before I'm very happy before I met now. If I was to stay where I am now, it's not to say I haven't got goals and want to achieve more, but I mean right now I'm just content with my family. I've got a son, I've got five liquor people out there. There's kids out there who can't have money. Here's people out there out there, you know, you know, and just the health, we're all healthy and and and I do uh I do be thankful and grati like I show gratitude towards all that like as well. And then even like a car, we we we parked the car and down a report, we flew home, it was late, ten o'clock at night, and the car battery was there, someone left the lights on, I was like, fuck. And the week he that opens the door to grind it, wasn't it? So I was like, you know what, fuck it. We're at least we're in a position to have a car.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, let's get the boss come back down tomorrow, this hurricane so late, it's no big deal. And like three things like that, break it for you, fucking that was tired. Fuck us. But I was in a position to have a car, I was in a position that's it's that's a I mean that's a first world problem. Do you know I have a car? I have a car and there's people in the world that blew up or people in the world suffering from illness that can't that have no cure, you know. So I it always show we sh it always f like find a wee way to be like thankful for what I have, even if it's a problem.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, it's a good problem. I look at it like a good problem, and I'm in a position to get on a bus and drive back there again tomorrow. It's all right.
SPEAKER_00:People do have a lot a lot more today. We were talking yesterday, I met a mate, Mike O'Kane, and talking about Christmas growing up years ago. You know, we get a second hand back every year me and my brother between us, you know. But uh some of them are good and some my dad had painted them a bit. He knew it. But a lot of even today, like, because uh the mate they had left stuff down to one of the toys into one of them food banks and that'd be surprised how many kids won or like it's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:I just left two toys this morning and on the time. A lot of kids there's there's they're getting nothing. Big time, like it's it's hard to believe at this day and age that kids are so there's kids in the same area getting so much and in the same area there's kids getting nothing. Yeah. And they can't well where's it where where's how's that happening?
SPEAKER_00:Another fellow he'd mentioned he says, Oh, but a lot of the parents probably drinking and taking drugs. But you can't do anything about that. It's not the child's fault. It's not the child's fault. The child shouldn't.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe the the parents may need may just not have the support network or may not have, you know, at game and it might like there's so much stigma around oh it's a man and dad's fault that they're not they're taking drugs and drinking. They probably don't want to take drugs and drinking. It's that's their no mean that's their cope mechanism of whatever's happening in their lives. Like you don't know what's gonna do people what's happened to people, you know. I was reading if some fella he messaged me last week saying I want to go on their podcast, I've read a book. I was in St. Pat's home and when I was younger I was stealing cars and I've had a fucking mad old life and I he he read that he had this you know book he sent me on and I was reading thirty chapters and I was like what in the name of like what he's been through in St. Pat's home and I was like it was it was you know and that's why he was sniffing. It's not his fault.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you can't choose the house you want to be born into.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so it's like and but again like you say it's not the kids' fault either, 'cause it's it's just it's it's mad to think that this day and age it's just normal. Like the lap dash or she loves me drinking.
SPEAKER_00:I think life's designed now for to keep people in worry and fear and debt and chaos. Yeah. And they don't really focus on their neighbours or their community. Um a lot of them sort of what's in for me, um, or they're on survival mode. I and I know a lot of people like maybe like two jobs. Like my dad growing up, we only ever seen my dad getting out of bed and going to work. My dad done that shift for extra money and he he went and worked he worked in Royal Mail, but he worked in a car park first.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then you seen him on a Saturday had a drink, but um we got to really sort of know him after he retired, you know, when he was older. But he he had two jobs to keep my and my mum as well. My mum done her her dressing and then she would go home and do hers in the house. You know, so it's just that's one of them things you But that was so like when I look back I didn't appreciate at the time, but he gave up his life for his kids.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. You know. Do you think it was we're do you think like now we're starting to lose our community element a wee bit more?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I think it's I think if everybody funny I had a ch I had a friend come over from Scotland, Bran, and we were up at Cave Hill in the summer and we were looking down over Belfast and uh he says, Can you imagine years ago if that was all our land and everybody had to pay us rent and taxes? He says, But great, wouldn't it? I says, Yeah, but it would be great until everybody's getting along, like one big community, and they're sitting in the bar and they're thinking, Why should we pay them to up in the hill money? Why don't we just go up and kill them or throw them off the cliff? So then if we got word of that, we would have to s start chaos and say, lay the fire over there and say they done it. Tell lemons that they said your religion's wrong and get chaos going to keep them off us, and then we'll employ some people and we'll pay them the police area, and if things are calming down, we'll get it up again. Like the market is fantastic at doing this. But because of everybody there's there's strength in numbers, so it's a case that divide and conquer, don't get along. This place is famous for you know black eyes, black is white.
SPEAKER_02:That's what's happening now with like the digital ID. People like sp I know conspiracy theorists, but they are all saying it. Like, what I all that stuff pops up. I don't know, it must be my algorithm as I read it and TV's litics are right. Like, no means I laugh at it, but stuff coming up saying like just watch, these are distracting us with all this, you know, civil fucking shit that's going on between people that uh immigrants are coming in and coming in on boats, but in the background, digital ID is coming to you, you know this shit.
SPEAKER_00:It's just it's the way they sell things too. Even if if you watch uh the trained sales teams in the past and different companies on sales psychology, and the the the I would always say to them you've ever watched QVC or the sell stock. A lot of them don't watch it, and I say, see see if you want to be good at sales, watch QVC and take notes and imagine they're selling your product. Yeah, they only use one method, it's called the pass method, and that's what you're looking at, what's going on around the world. What's your pain, make it worse, associate it into the future so you have worry and fear about it, and then I'll offer you a solution to it. That's the pass. That's how your Madison works. Yep, pain associated in the future. You look at they've got an old hoover, and some it's in black and white, and the guy's got a sore back, and then hey hey, look at this. It's in color, look at me now. So pain associate all the bills of the back.
SPEAKER_02:And then the next thing is uh a massage chart for the back from hoover.
SPEAKER_00:But again, if if the government wanted to bring something enough to cause chaos first, and then the obvious solution. So it's just it's basic psychology. Um if you look at it that way. But if you imagine it, people say you're conspiracy. Yeah, sure, if nobody didn't have to.
SPEAKER_02:That's just no echoes, isn't it? You can't win. But listen, we've had a good uh I think it was just over an hour or two. Good chat. Um let's say someone wants to work with you, sports specifically. Does it have to be sport business? It does anybody that's gives a wee bit of how you help people and where they can get where I can get you. Would they just reach out to your email or social media?
SPEAKER_00:Just uh through social media or or my website, SeanConnelly.info. Um but it's anybody that's usually people that's performing at a level where there's a lot of pressure and they're they're stuck. Are they one enhanced that level? Yeah. You know. The other work I'm doing every day work is more with therapy. Yeah. Um but I love the sports. I love activities, you see. See sitting one-to-one. Like if if we were doing a session, I'd have you been there anyway, jumped about doing things, testing it, uh, played psychology. Um it's getting the um it's getting in front of people too. It's a lot of people, especially Belfast that small. A lot of people are all using the same Yeah, the same. I think I had them in all the GA clubs years ago, now they've all their own guys just out of college, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they've sent them all down that route. Yeah, you do.
SPEAKER_00:Which is good, the more people do it the better, because the more people can be helped. It's needed, you know.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, people don't realise what they're capable of, like, don't do that. Like it's like something that's like people like even me, I don't know what I'm capable of, but I know I've performed at a high level, a high, very high level, and have done for a long time, but like still believers more. Like I still believe there's always more to give.
SPEAKER_00:Like, you know, there's always room for improvement. It's only extension if you get in your house, the room for improvement. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:You're like QVC now extensions, you're commission.
SPEAKER_00:You know what I'm saying? We're sitting here too, and we're talking about all the outfitters from years ago. You just get a podcast and get them all into one room and get them talking about the old train.
SPEAKER_02:If you've done a live one and like the daddy's or something and got like a couple of them down and just talk about them fighting and sparring each other and stuff like that class.
SPEAKER_00:You might have a bit of a digging.
SPEAKER_02:That's actually a good story. Because they've all great stories to tell, like, big time. Yeah. And like just the on-headed hands have changed, even though from like then the night. Yeah. Because a lot of them's went on to coach. Yeah. You know, like the like Charlie and stuff, and you know, Charlie went on up and poor last boxing club, and even like, you know, some of them like we Alex O'Neill and stuff, and then the corpus they've all went in and done a wee bit of coaching here and there. So it'd be good to see like their thought on the translation and then where where it's came from then I think the old stories are much better, like, yeah, than what it is now.
SPEAKER_00:Even big, I mean Dee Irvine. Once a week for a coffee, the referees around the world, as you know now. But uh and D wasn't really, you know, he he's very sort of conservative. He he wouldn't boast about things or but um we I can't remember who we were. Stevie Hannah got rest him. And uh I remember Dee doing the door, working as a bouncer in the Gregory. And um some niggas he wasn't there and Stevie Guay, uh he maybe wanted a night off, so he went up and fought the travellers bare knuckle for money. This he got the same money as doing the door, you know. Tate Tate Man, like they just laughed.
SPEAKER_02:I know he's mad, aren't they? He's good out. I speak to him regularly.
SPEAKER_00:He says the the the the the um the Eastwood gym was brutal. He says it wasn't hard, it was brutal. The sparn, the sparn was very they constantly have pains in their head. Even a lot of amateurs came down there um that weren't taking it easy on them.
SPEAKER_02:Oh wow, when we were on the Irish team, I remember like David Oliver Joyce, we went away, we used to go to training camps in Ukraine and Russia and Davy Oliver would be on Parcinemo a lot of the time, like just headaches constantly the sparn was just sparn four days a week. And they do tasks sparn, and the task is like once like punches when you're like same-time punch bang. You're getting hit constantly going, there's no defense against the same time punch, you're making me punch so that you can hit me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's the task. And we do it amongst each other on the Ice team. Alright, we can control that. But when we're sparring against Ukrainians and Russians and Cossacks and Uzbaks and Cubans and and a big training camp, they're not taking easyness, they're just going full whack.
SPEAKER_00:It's funny, it's the opposite with the Thai boxers. They'll spar for they spar for 40 minutes. Just they call it Chacha, play spawn. And I remember asking them, I was up in the Galaxy Brothers gym in in Bangkok, and uh he the his titles he still holds the longest record for holding the bantamweight title. He's but like a middleweight. Uh I don't know if you ever remember him. Um you look him up, uh Galaxy Galaxy Brothers in Thailand, but um I was up in his gym and now the the they're fighting once a week, but the the caller spar in chat cha. So I asked him why the sparred so light and playful. And he says, Well, if you look at a dog or a bird, a tiger, how does it learn to fight? It play fights constantly for years and years, so there's no stress suppressing the learning and the the muscle memories there, so when they're attacked, it all comes out again. And I've seen something recently on Joe Rogan where a lot of a lot of fighters, MMA ones, are actually going back and doing that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so they're I do that by accident. I never knew it, but I just do it by accident. I would I always say to people, take 60% power off completely, no power is not overcommit, so that makes a mistake. And I was like trying to say to people, imagine you're in the club, because Mickey Hotlins used to say me, he'd be like, You put two kids in and he would like go right, go hit Sean. And he would say to me, You're not allowed to get hit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't get hit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't get hit. With two kids chase me around the ring, I don't get hit. So I take it on my own train, I would go, Well, if I do that, then imagine I'm there's two kids, oh yeah, touch your touch. You're not gonna get hit and you don't get tired. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I'm like, if I can do that against two kids in the ring chasing me around full energy, I can surely do that on a fight against anyone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Even the tippy tigs, like I always like the tippy tig games 'cause tippy boxing's big boys tippy tig, isn't it? Yeah. You're in range to get hit. You want to hit without getting hit, but you're in range to get and the fainting, you know, feinting's a dan art you're Good at fainting but fainting a lot of even it doesn't exist out.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of a lot of feathers don't do it no more. Yeah. They make a job, a simple bit like you like we're talking about earlier, the just the the you know, the fundamentals. The fundamentals take your in order.
SPEAKER_00:And and foot work head movement even. A lot of people you close your their heads just in and out all the time. Yeah. Never move their head off the center line. And again, it's just a habit you have to build, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you have to develop it through training, I suppose. Listen, it was Brennan Having. Thank you very much and thanks for your time and your knowledge. Thank you. Thanks for having me.