The Public Nuisance Podcast #059 The Wrath of The West with John Man

Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.

This week we welcome John Man to the podcast.

We cover Belfast accents with Hong Kong roots, Hakka at home and Cantonese chaos, code-switching without losing yourself, Chinese curry debates, chicken balls and tradition, Indian takeaway rankings, Chinese New Year at home, wedding graft and long edits, gimbals and wrecked eyes, Guinness rules, West Belfast truths, winter blues, Dubai dreams, and much more.

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Transcript

Marriages, Money, And Security

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Did the wave ever get on the ear about having any more kids? No.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

No, see me and the kids' wives are all like all separated. We're we're the force. No. So I'm on wife number three. Are you? You're not. I'm on wife number three. You must be hard work. Fucking hell like Jesus. Don't call me a con for Foxy. I'm on wife number three. I can't see it. This guy's a contour's a conto who don't know go nowhere near him for Foxy. I'm on wife number three.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

Divorce papers everywhere? You must be skint. Foxy.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

I am skint. I'm literally fucking scared. All the waves take fucking clears. Fuck me, that's right. The last wife like or well, she I wasn't married to her, but I had two kids over and I was with her, no living up in my eagles. Fuck me. That was like talking about the West. Fucking talking about the rat of the West. Like, fuck me. I called her a conk and fucking went through me, so she's like, I mean a fucking family and all. So you don't call anyone a fucking conk.

SPEAKER_01 1:13

A concept from the West.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

Well, you fucking feel it, alright? Oh and I I walked away with that one. I fucking I threw the head up. I threw a head up. I think I was I'm a worker. You know, people always say, John, you're fucking you're a worker, and that's it. There's nothing you can do. You can't have a fucking you know proper life. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 1:31

So if you want to work, it's it's who brings the money and you have to bring the money and you have to survive. It is true. See if you didn't work, it'd be another problem. That's it. Exactly. You can't win. You know you can't win with a mirror. You can't win it all. So you can't so you're you're you're see your as it you're in your third wife now. You got married in Hong Kong, did you?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

No, I got married here, so then the photos, the photos, I'd done those photos or this time exactly a year today. So was this time last year I'd done those photos? We just went to Hong Kong and says, Oh. Let's get some photos done. And then it wasn't long after that was the what talked about like marriage and stuff. It's like okay, that class, that's goofy. Yeah, but uh we're happy. I know we're probably saying my ma's always taught me or from saying, uh, you know, a woman always wants security. Yeah. That's the most important thing for a woman is security, you know. Give her a house, yeah, you know, but a fucking marriage.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

Give her give her a house in the fuck yard anyway.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

I know we're flu say, but you know, you you can't give them a house, you know, and give them a car, but you know, but I think at the end of the day they want they want to be married. Yeah. They want that security, so yeah, go for it. And I think my ma is friends with her ma, really good friends. Yeah. So flopping, you know, so you sort of have to do it. How to keep everyone happy.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Are you originally from Hong Kong?

SPEAKER_02 2:49

I was born in Hong Kong. Born Hong Kong. Born in Hong Kong and then flipping shipped out of here. Shipped out when did you move here? I've always been told, like, a couple of months after being around. Oh, I just have to. Very young.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Because like obviously, like you you still have like a Belfast accent, you know what I mean? But like obviously, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

I actually found a video of myself so I did. Um I was actually my son sent this video of me and it was from the eighties, and it was like a BBC recording, so it was of them doing a documentary in Belfast by Chinese New Year. And fuck me, you should have heard me. Uh I had to find a clip and even stick it on, like you hear me fucking with that broad Belfast accent. And I was probably even 10.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

Serious?

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Or fellas I had to find that clip instead. I never even thought, you know, how broad of Belfast, you know, I was, how broad I was, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

I was like, ah do you do you speak uh Chinese anymore? I do speak Chinese, I yeah, classive. Like would you speak out with your parents or anything like that?

SPEAKER_02 3:49

I well speak that my dad's passed away now, but uh we speak um a dial Hakka dialect in to my mummy, and then same with my wife. So we're so we're not Cantonese. So we're not just another dialect. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

Um your wife was she all was she always in there or was she?

SPEAKER_02 4:06

She's the same, she's like me, born in Hong Kong, and then came over here. Serious? That's mad. But I literally grew up in Finnegan.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

It's mad because see if you see if you've ever uh see if you both ever grew up in Hong Kong, it's probably you would never have crossed paths. No, you wouldn't have. I always move halfway across the world. Belfast is meet each other.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

And then she meets a love of her life. There you go, huh? Hey, John boy. Her both go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Who the fuck do we letting her see? Yeah, she'd be divorced again.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

She comes on, like, so she doesn't do those weak videos of me. She's good crack. She is good crack, she was up for anything, you know. She gives me a bulletin afterwards. She's like, what do you do that for? Like, like people are just the people are gonna they're gonna be they're not gonna like it. So they won't sure you never know until you put it right there. That's it, right? Just don't call anyone a comp on my anything.

SPEAKER_03 4:57

You got um you got good uh views from the the the traffic one where you the Christmas traffic about when you were calling people a ball. Oh yeah, for probably you slap someone the ball back about the cacks and the gutties. So a lot of your followers with would they would they not know that that's like that's what we call them about your cacks and your gutties?

SPEAKER_02 5:16

I haven't used I haven't used the word gutties in years and years and years. Sometimes these things just come to me and just straight off in the just straight off the bat, you know, in my head, like I have to do this here, you know. And we're saying I was uh I was we were in Lisbon that time we were in Lisbon and she had said oh she's gonna go in here running here, just go run a couple of errands, and it's just came to me and said the fucking gutties and the fucking cats, you know, get their foot and pull the cacks down, slapping in a ball bag, and I'll say fucking hell. That traffic was mad this Christmas seemed to be worse. Yeah, it was Christmas and it was chaos. Do you try and avoid you know towns and city centre to Belfast anyway?

SPEAKER_03 5:52

For someone, everyone's stressed out as it is like proper properly stressed out over Christmas and it's all for one day, like I know for flop side. Is it like what would do you have would it be like that in like like Hong Kong, for example? It would be anyone.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

It would be, but change new year would be a bigger thing. Yeah, so it would be a bigger celebration.

SPEAKER_03 6:11

Yeah, because a lot of people go home, like a lot of agents go home for that. What year is that? This year I think it's February. Does it change every year?

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Change it every yeah, it's a lunar, so it is what the lunar calendar. That's great. So it does.

SPEAKER_03 6:22

I mean have you ever run home for it?

Born In Hong Kong, Raised In Belfast

SPEAKER_02 6:24

I have, it's it's it's not a great experience. Too busy. Too busy. And people are are off. So they are they're not working, they're all they're all um, you know, just spending time with their families. That's nice that way. Yeah. You know, but um if you're going home, you're stuck in the if you're going back home and it's you're it's Chinese New Year, everything's closed for at least a week. So this for the Chinese years celebrations.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Yeah, because all Chinese restaurants here are closed and everyone be fucking cracking out. Most of them are everyone's hung over going fuck Chinese New Year, fuck on the bathroom. We'd be cursing you, going fuck shit, Chinese is closed. Everyone wants there to be something so it's all the Chinese check. But see the change see the food in like in China, it's a lot different than what it is here from at the service.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Well, uh a couple of friends came over from Hong Kong like a couple of weeks ago. It was about two, three weeks ago when they came over, and our mission was to bring them to have um westernized Chinese food. And what did they think of it? They fucking loved it.

SPEAKER_03 7:25

Did they?

SPEAKER_02 7:25

They loved it.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

What do you do like would you eat Chinese food at the end restaurant? What's your favourite Chinese restaurant?

SPEAKER_02 7:31

I would Chinese restaurant at the moment. Um Chinese takeaway or whatever. Just we always get from the wood the one beside us. It's um it's on the moss road in Lisburne. Um what do you call it? A fucking China China or something, a China Inner or whatever. We seem to be getting there, and it seems to be nice, it's grand, because I'm a big curry lover. Yeah. And I always believe now there's no one no one that in this age does a good Chinese curry. Yeah. It's always like a cheating way of curry, if you know what I mean. Yeah. It's uh it's like loaded with ingredients, maybe it's not as it's not as fragrant as it was in the day my dad made it. Do you like spicy? Like, is it spicy? Like, would you like spicy food? Oh low spicy.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Spicy curry for me. Is it goat like that? Oh extra, extra hot. That's how that's how I determine with Chinese are like, depending on the curry, being how spicy it is.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

No, there has to be a nice fragrant. Yeah. So it does, you know, in the curry. It's hard to get nice with it.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

You should do uh you should do the the blog, no, the the the food reviews on Chinese, because you because obviously you are Chinese, you'd be able to give a a good and then make it funny, it would be it would probably go. Go to tick bring out your TikTok. I was telling you about TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

That's fucking stinking. Come on, what are you doing? Fucking tag someone's fucking tag someone's business and then get a fucking Wendy's pit through your room.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

You'll be alright, though.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Everyone fucking knows where I live on flop side. Jeez. It's like fucking living in Lisbon, fucking everyone just stops by and says, right John, what's happening? What's happening?

SPEAKER_03 9:06

He's well known in Lisbon. Like some fella stopped us and we were standing in the hallway waiting around, and some guy came in, he popped his head on the door. I think he was looking crazy. Yay. Can I get a photo of me? Of course he's like, oh, keep up the good work. You're doing great work, man. Just walked in. It's the first time I've ever felt left in. Talking about my podcast. I'm standing like an agent. I was doing it. I was this closest thing in the hair. Do you want me to take it?

SPEAKER_02 9:37

I was telling them. I was telling I would have taken a picture of you taking a picture of me.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

I would have been a classic. Maybe taking a photo of you, get the photo out of.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

I know, but it's crazy. So that's how you how how people know you just from the socials. Yeah, of course. It is fucking crazy. Like we were done, uh, a couple of friends came over from Hong Kong, as I said, uh, we were in Stormind Park, and uh, I got these messages. So that and I said, Is that you? Is that you? I was like, yeah, who you? Oh, we've left it all, our flop site, you know? And he says, Oh fuck, I knew I knew it was new, I should have got a photo of you. I says, mate, I was still standing with like three other big, big influencers, yeah, you know, from like there was two from Hong Kong, one from here. So it was, you know, it's like a big influence catter and like smallest influencer.

SPEAKER_03 10:30

Yeah, it's classic. But do you have would you have much Asian like following? Um I don't think it's like this whenever you were saying about the cacks and the shoes or the trainers like these who like who who who would know it if they're not from Belfast?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

I know, but yeah, um no, no one would know it if they're not from Belfast. So my my my niche would be like this Asian dude, you know, with a broad Belfast accent, you know, yeah, speaking, so like a couple of Belfast phrases, you know. Yeah, 100%. No, that's cute. You know, like your cacks and your gutties and stuff out there, you know. That was my that was my niche. And then people turn around and so on and say, Why don't you do this and do that there?

SPEAKER_03 11:09

It's like that's not interesting to me, but because we had a guy, or we I used to work on the bus tours, right? In the in the city centre, selling buses, right? So we had loads of uh the Chinese we skinny Chinese dude, Chiwa Chiwa, you call him it. No, he's Chinese. He's still he's still there, so yeah. He's still there, he's there. Um, but everyone used to be he's the same, he has a broad Belfast accent. And they're like, and they always would have said to me, he is like that's the most modest thing I've ever seen. He has the broadest Belfast accent, but he's Asian, and he's like, Alright, hi are you? Alright.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

And I think people are taking a backpat when they hear it, they're like, Oh, but they don't or it's it is a Belfast, uh, it has to be Belfast, a broad Belfast accent. Yeah, people get people. Yeah, because we have a strong accent, we have one strong accent. It's that strong, like people you go step by side Northern Ireland, not people in England don't even understand us.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

Like, maybe talk slower, will you? I know 100%, exactly. I think us and skyscers are probably I no I hate word worse than skysers.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Do you think so? I think so.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

I I I can understand skysters okay, but they can under they they can't. Yeah, I can understand them as well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

So I can. Um like if you if I was to go into Hong Kong, I was like, nah, but I I can't understand it. You don't understand me. No, 100%. Um like people would say like you're a Hong Kong, why would you just be speaking English?

Language, Dialects, And Tones

SPEAKER_03 12:29

Do you speak Chinese with a Belfast accent?

unknown 12:32

No.

SPEAKER_03 12:33

Do you speak Chinese with a Chinese accent?

SPEAKER_02 12:37

I my someone said to me, uh I speak Cantonese. So when I go back to Hong Kong, if I always speak Cantonese, they would know straight off that my I'm uh there's a bit of a English clangler, so it is, you know. Because I don't speak it that often. Yeah. Um my dad my native dialect is Hakka, so it is. Um and that we that's the the the dialect um I always speak to my mom and so my wife.

SPEAKER_03 13:00

So see in like see in let's say China, for example, it's massive, massive, massive. Is there different accents in and others different languages? And others different languages, but I mean is it is it the same? Would you recognise like let's say Hong Kong and Beijing?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Beijing is different, so it's Hong Kong is Cantonese spoken, so it is where Beijing is Mandarin.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

Modern's bigger, isn't it? A bigger like it's bigger, so let's say another part of China, would they speak a different like they're not?

SPEAKER_02 13:32

I think more west you go. It changes more it changes more. More west and more north you go. Yeah. So it is. But if you're more Western, it's fucking China's fucking massive. There's more of us content fucking. There's more people in China.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

I'm thinking there isn't the rest of the world.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

I know there is. I think there's like what are like red there about there's like over a billion or something Mandarin speaking people in the world.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

It's like it's crazy, like and it's uh people say it's not that hard to learn, like it isn't.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

I have a friend um I met through um socials. Um you call him uh Daniel, Daniel Danielson? Danielson, no, not Danielson purple say no, he um he's from Bangor, he's a Northern Irish man from Bangor, but he went out to Hong Kong so he did to work, so he did, and he came back speaking uh fluent Cantonese. Serious? Fuck man. You wouldn't fucking believe it like crazy.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

I mean fluent I always find it like people say it's it's not that hard to learn, but when I look at the like the rating and all that, obviously there's a whole different thing. Yeah, it's looks complex.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

I don't even read it, I don't read or write it, so it don't. And um whenever you're talking Chinese, um Daniel will Daniel um from It's Peacocks, that's his channel that's his channel, his um handle on Instagram, but he had taught me so you did that there's tones. So you can be saying one word and then um it's like hi is yes, but you use a different tone to it, and like a higher pitch tone. So it's like hi, it means cunt. Serious?

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Fuck me, you've already got that mixed up.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

You're you're fucked like saying that anybody like King and says hi. They all say hi. It's like fucking slapped.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 15:13

It is crazy, so yeah. There just different tones. Like so there's like there are loads of different tones. So there's just mean all the time.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

People in the city say ni how's that is that nihao leho?

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Leeho is like just like hello.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Hello, niho, niow how Ni How seeow how's that mean? Is that what we said?

SPEAKER_02 15:34

That's no that's Mandarin. So it is Mandarin. So it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

I always say to my son, if you see someone eating in the town or speaking, they say, Ni how is it how old your son? Five. Well he's five next week. Is it? Oh, very good. He's five and Tuesday. Five and Tuesday.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Oh, very good. Flop. Young uh young family in a few years.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Long time from your kids were five anyway. I know for flop side. You told me you're near fifty, I couldn't believe it. Honestly, I uh you look very, very well for flop for fifty.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

My kids are all flipping grown up. I've canceled Christmas on them this year.

SPEAKER_03 16:13

I'm cunt like you know what like just didn't do Christmas or what?

SPEAKER_02 16:22

I didn't do Christmas, the kids are looked after.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

So they so they are you know lonely don't think so. They have their own like you you've your youngest is eighteen, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

He's still lovely or no, they have their own wee place now, sort of do. So he will live with his missus or no, no, they they have their own weak gaff, sort of do they have a wee house and all three boys are in together. So they're racking the show like they all live together.

SPEAKER_03 16:43

What age is the oldest? Twenty-eight, my eldest. And then what's the middle one?

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Uh twenty.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Twenty, and then the youngest is eighteen, and they all live together. They all live together. Yeah, that's insane. Like, do they have partners or any or kids or any?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

The youngest one here have they have a partner. Oh, I see. Uh the youngest one has a partner, he's been with her flipping for years now. Is she Asian? No, she's not Asian. She's a little girl from uh Tuckmuna. Oh fuck. Oh, no side of me, either. Stone Stone throw it.

SPEAKER_03 17:12

Stone throw it, literally throwing each other. 100%. Uh fucking no, that's mob, but like yeah, like when you say me, I'm there 50, it was like fuck, it was actually taken back. No, I think it's an Asian gene life, so it is, you know. Yeah, probably like we age and jeans are great, like, so they are. We age I think Irish people are mostly drinkers, like a lot of Irish people are like running around, obviously, stereotypical of me to say that. But like so it is like known for drinking, so we probably age a lot more than age. But do you think uh smoking and drinking, do you think I'd there had to contribute to aging but I would say so. Like I I know for a fact when I come off a bender I look ten years older. Over Christmas, I was like, I look like fucking. Do you love a night drinking with you? I do, yeah. My new year resolution is to go off it to stop drinking. This is a fucking stick, yeah. I'm gonna give it a go. But like I said, I can go on stages. Like I'll when I have a fate coming up, I won't drink for like months. It's like, oh that's good, then you have a drink. I want to, yeah, that's what I want to do.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

But you're committed that way, then that's good.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

Yeah, so I just have to.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

That's like me in the gym. It's like, nah, fuck, I can't commit to this here. Fuck literally doing my baby.

SPEAKER_03 18:29

Do you not like gym? Like, do you never feel like do you have a feeling of like training?

Viral Clips, Local Slang, And Niche

SPEAKER_02 18:32

I'm feeling like feeling after you work with watch watching Rocky, yeah. My feeling, eh? Fucking hanging your fucking take on the world after watching Rocky, maybe Rocky Floors of it.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

When I get your body snuck?

SPEAKER_02 18:42

And like get your body snuck. No, I I always have in my head. I want to start training. I want to like go in the gym trying to do better exercise. No, because of my age and stuff. And I I need to fucking keep up trying to eat a wee bit better. I am eating better. Um people think say to me, oh, fucking, you're eating again, you're eating again, no, because of all the socials and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 19:02

That's part of your socials. That's part of what you do.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

It is, but I don't really do much out there. Um we eat quite a quite a lot in the house, so we do. And maybe once a week we'll get a wee takeout or I'll sit in somewhere, have a wee munch, I say, that way. And maybe go to the coffee shop, have a wee coffee and have a wee bun or something like that. Yeah, it's very rough.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

What's your favourite restaurant?

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Chinese restaurant. Um we was we went to no, I haven't before, um, we haven't don't really fancy out the Chinese restaurant, but we got an invite to cut this um place, the Mandarin, up in Bali Hackamore. It's actually it's actually massive reviews about it. That's a great wee spot. But um he was trying to Colin was trying to feed me all of your more authentic stuff, but I was like, I was more interested in the westernized Chinese food. Yeah, the Western, yeah. The fried rice and the fried rice and stuff I had there, you know, the fried chicken balls and all. But even the guys coming over from Hong Kong, they've never known what the frick a chicken ball was. Yeah, it's crazy. So we had to bring them over and get a chicken ball.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

The chicken curry spring rolls as well.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

I know, see that's that's all over the place, especially the West. The West is doing that. I think my friend uh Janet, she I've seen that on her weep um TikTok that she was doing a big mass of chicken curry spring roll. I haven't tried it yet, so I haven't.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

No, you have to try them, they're nice, they're they're lovely. Some of them are spicy, but uh do you would you eat any other like like let's say Asian, but like Indians or anything? I love Indian food. Indian food's my favorite food. Fuck I love Indian food. Where's your favourite Indian restaurant? Do you ever go to any Indian?

SPEAKER_02 20:31

I always seem to go back to the Raj on Lisbon.

SPEAKER_03 20:33

Raj, yeah, I've been in there a few times.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

So half. I don't know why I go to earth or this, but it's always been good.

SPEAKER_03 20:38

Yeah, I go run always. I just go around because it's close to me anyway, the Raj, but then there's another one across the street, the Bangalore Brasseries. Last night's as well, so that's U Tallies if the goat leg in the town, that's the best. Do you think so? That's unbelievable. I didn't think they won like an award there, like the best Indian restaurant in the whole UK.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Like, but I don't find it any more special. Maybe then uh the the interior no the design. The atmosphere inside is more homely, more nicer. But uh do have to say, I like the Raj is a bit like a bit of a dive, you know, inside, but the food is good. I enjoy the food.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

No, no, I don't I think I'm yet to find a bad Indian restaurant anywhere I go. No, I haven't no it's just having like it's it's so like every everything's always like near a fun level par across the board. Everything like the like they're the flavours are never far off each other.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

They're not, no you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 21:32

Maybe the spices go up and down a wee bit. Like if I got a madras. So if I got a chicken madrass or a lamb madras in New Delhi, it would be much spicier than like the Raj. But the flavour would be closer. Yeah. Um so you're never far off.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

No, we always try it differently things so we do, but we like lamb. So we do. Lamb is uh is quite a more of a funny mate. Yeah. But we'll we'll love lamb. So it is. And then fucking Indian's actually bad for you.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

The Nambril. Eating all an umbrella.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

It's okay. It is good, like so it is I fucking love an Indian right now, I think.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

We'll get you one order up here, Ganon. Can only just ate our ram.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

It has to be extra hot now. You know, it has to be hotter in Findaloo. I can do Findaloo easy, so can you know no bottom. We were to be hotter.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

We were in uh because when you get a matras in New Delhi, it's really, really spicy. So we were in I was I trained in Amsterdam, so when I was trained I got uh a Findaloo because they're there's not a spicy in them fell as like very, very spicy. I was like, okay, just give us it anyway. It wasn't it wasn't even that spicy. People I think I think they're afraid of like the Western world not being able to handle it. Yeah. But we we I could I love it. The spicier the better.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

I guess everyone and every individual is different. You have to build up your tolerance to spicy. Like when I used to I remember the the the Chinese snack sort of and it's still sell to this day. And whenever we first dived in this year, packet of chili crisps, uh it was so spicy, couldn't eat it. I said, No, I'm flipping, you don't feel that. No sweat, no problem at all.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

I don't even take a drink. No, I don't take a drink between I just hoof it into me. Nah, it's burning me. I'm sweating, I'm sweating eating it, and I'm it's burning my tongue, but I'm just hoofing into me fast. And then I was holding. When I'm finished, I just hoof it, a big ton of Coke Sarah with a ton of harp.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

When you're right with you, when you're right with your mates having a wee drink, what do you drink? What's your go-to drink?

SPEAKER_03 23:29

I like Guinness. I would drink a Guinness, but I like harp as well.

Chinese New Year And Westernised Takeaway

SPEAKER_02 23:33

So I've drink I'm not a drinker, so I'm not, right? But and anytime I put onto my socials, a wee pint of um Guinness, people would say to me, That's a shit Guinness. That's a terrible looking Guinness. Where do you get your Guinness? It depends where you go. We obviously shirt. There's one time I went, I was in um the Cobble Streets or what's that? The Chick of York Chick-of York? Is it the Chico York? Yeah, Chico York. I was in Northwest and I got I've got one and I said someone that made a comment. Look at the state of the head, you know. So I don't know if you're not. People saying uh as long as it's constantly being poured, you know, you get a good pint of Guinness. And then where was the next one? It was a rusty saddle. Uh yeah. People were just commenting these here flipping like connoisseurs or Guinness connoisseurs. That's a flippin' terrible Guinness. It's like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 24:22

I think everyone goes to like the same. There's like two or three f same places that everyone goes to for Guinness and Belfast, like well known for Guinness. And then Madden's Madden's bar is like we Irish pub at the start of us the start of the city center. And then Kelly Cellars, probably.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

People say the rule of thumb is if it's busy, go to it. If it's not busy, don't be fucking going to it.

SPEAKER_03 24:50

Stomach fuck. We stuck the toilet all night. For fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Or for flop's sake. No, no, seriously, I don't I don't drink, so don't, but um, I always get these invites. It's uh met um I I do uh it's probably probably a couple of days ago. Someone masters says, Mate, I would love to have you for a night out. You know, come on out with us, we'll fucking look after you. I says, I don't drink, mate. You know. But I've no time, I've no literally no time. But we get the I get all these we get all these invites all the freaking time. So we do no time was your work.

SPEAKER_03 25:26

Just no time because I'm work I'm working. Do you have did you have any do you like set in your resolutions or anything?

SPEAKER_02 25:32

Like I try to lose weight this year, again. Again. Probably for the twenty twenty-third time or something my lifetime, or flu.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

What what what what will you have what have you got put in place for? Like just eat cleaner or eat cleaner, that's the first thing.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

No, not necessarily walk out of it, because I don't do enough walking anyway. Yeah. So don't but eat a lot cleaner.

SPEAKER_03 25:52

Well help. If you st if you just if you and the wife get the get the shoes on. Get the cotton on.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Get the cotton on, get the cacks on. Get a pur, a couple of pears of cacks on. You know? And then get a get clean. But we're making excuses. I know what we're talking about. You're off the bastard. You know, it's not true. We're making step one is eating cleaner. And um the mess is what's what did she do? What did she do on New Year's Day? Pulls out a packet of crips. Well, okay. Uh was the Chinese, the Chinese, you call them the Chinese um the prone cracker crisps, because we look the we sticks to the air, and she pulled them out and started munching on that for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_03 26:35

Off the fly.

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Off the fly, Haggers and off the phone she's really bad, so she is. And she's really bad ever since when she's met me. You know, just munches on everything, anything, just just munches munches, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

Munchies are the worst of you getting sad meals like breakfast, lunch, dinner. Uh-huh. The munching in between is where you rack up the calories.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

I know, but uh I my I don't I don't snack that much. So don't I've never been a snacker until I've met Shafan. Chaffan just snacks. Chapon's a snacker and she would eat small, sm a lot smaller meals. Yeah. But she would be she would snack where I eat big meals and don't snack. That was me, so I was growing up.

SPEAKER_03 27:16

I'm a chocolate belly. Chocolate's bad. Ah, I love chocolate. Serious potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

Fuck me. Let's fall for me. Fucking hell, like I'm not going on you can eat that there.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

I know, but I train like fuck. Is it? I train flat out like a lot. Plus, I'm probably a thoroughbred as well. You know what I mean? I'm like a greyhound, big tall, skinny hand, and then probably always going to be skinny. No matter what I eat. But I do have a lot of output. Like, you know, I'm walking around all day, I'm very active. You're in the house, you're on like your editing, your stuff you do, and videography, whatever your photographs.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Uh well, that's my downfall, just the sitting in a uh literally sitting there. Yeah. I knew I was like, I was editing over Christmas as well, so I was working away over Christmas. Over Christmas. So it is. I was cancelled for flopsing, you know. So and then you were sitting on Christmas Day, sitting in the house, and I was thinking to myself, fuck me. It's quiet here. You know, I didn't I didn't know subconsciously, I didn't know it was this is this a good thing or a bad thing? And I sort of thought, oh, I do actually miss it. The kids and all, you know, on Christmas Day and the family gathering. I will just go to my mum's for Christmas dinner. No, we don't do cooking, we just do we'll do things like more Asian style cooking so we do, you know. That's it, just a big, big feast. So we do that. That was it. But this year we'll get it really a wee bit more simpler because my mum's health wasn't that great. So it's getting a wee bit out, so she is you know, to handle all the cooking. Uh did you help her with the cooking? Oh, I will try to help her. Everyone helps out now.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Everyone's like in America and all like they bring they bring dinners. No, like people here, they all bring but they all bring it up. They should. I think we should do that though. My mother-in-law came to my house this year and cooked uh all the dinner in our house instead of us just going to her house. You'd have thought we'd have helped because it's our house, but we'd done nothing. We'd done a little big show to the mother-in-law snail. She she did she want-in-law? She she cooked a whole lot and then we just stayed in our house and had it. But it was good because obviously my son, every year we go to her house for dinner. Uh-huh. My son's five, all his toys are here. We always take him away from his toys all day, then he's around her all day. So he misses out. But this year he was able to stay in the house and play with all his toys, get his dinner in the house, and we just stayed in there all day.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

Christmas Day used to be madness, proper madness on Christmas Day with the kids growing up.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Yeah, three, three kids around the moat. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

You know, but it was four, four kids back then because uh because my uh ex-partner Kira, like she had a door already. Oh, day. So it's just like four kids.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Do you see the difference in the presence between your oldest till your younger? So one's two right, one's eighteen. Why?

The Great Curry Debate

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Well, not not necessarily Christmas. They get a lot of hand me downs uh throughout the year anyway, so but Christmas I have noticed that um like my young My youngest is eighteen, so he just literally got can his Christmas got cancelled for him, soas my eldest, whenever he was eighteen, fuck me, he's still got a got air on it.

SPEAKER_03 30:27

I got a ring. You know, he be uh he be uh he he must be like a spoiled one because he's gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

He is spoiled, you know. Granny granny spoils him rotten like so he does. You know, he will get spoiled, but um I think I have to look after the younger one wee bit more so well, you know, like wee bits and pieces. This morning, half twelve, he phones me and says, Can you can you get me a lift home? So he does oh okay then after. Where was it?

SPEAKER_03 30:53

He works in the beach lawns so he does the hotel he works in the beach lawns and there's really nice for dinner, like it is, it is I used to go where like probably every Sunday for Sunday dinner, every day for weeks, and I just haven't been away like but uh it's probably one of my favourite Sunday dinners folks already been to. I know the guys that own it, and I know the guys a lot a lot of the people who work everything in my gym. Isn't it? So I just tax them and just be like, get me a table. And they're like, I was like pleasing to get me a table and they're like, Yeah, come on up.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

I now personally I I I used to do a lot of weddings in the beach lawns years ago. I bought very seldom now, I don't know why. But um I used to get their dinners as well, so I'd went to they would have sent me to the bar for the photographers, the photographers for the food and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 31:48

Do you still do weddings and stuff, yeah?

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Yeah, I do a full time so they're wedding. So do full time photo photo and films.

SPEAKER_03 31:57

That's one of the it's one of the biggest things. Uh my wife watching the media anyway, but she um I didn't realise how like specific I didn't think the videography and the photography was that important when we were getting married. But it was like that was the main thing for her. She was like, No, it has to be like it has to be. Where did you get married then? Um in the local skill. And she was like, No, it has to be this, it has to be it's so specific. And then I was like, right now she was telling me the bill for it, I was like, I'm gonna call a wad and off thing. You know, people don't understand like there's loads of work goes in it, like for these guys, like there's a lot of work, a lot of editing, a lot of like so like.

SPEAKER_02 32:37

Like still to this day, people say to me, uh, they just look at me and say, You get it easy, all you're doing is just click click click click. They just don't understand the fucking shit that goes in the background. Fuck me, I'm sacrificing my fucking health sitting there on the computer. Like Stevie Wonder sitting there, yeah, yeah. Fucking lifting fucking puts my head away sometimes, you know, and I'm fucking sitting there and maybe edit for an uh well I try and commit to one hour of editing and then like ten minute break, and I would maybe go and lift the Hoover and Hoover a wee bit and then go back to editing. So I would stick on a bit of um maybe a porn. Yeah, it didn't even fucking podcast or flipping the phone Netflix in the background and then start editing. It fucking kills you like something. That's it's heavy on the brain, I suppose. It's hard, and then my eyes are my eyes are fucked now. Literally, my eyes are fucked. Yeah, look with a screen on you. You can't screen constantly. Yeah, and then when you go out to work it says, fuck me, my vision's fucking changed. It has like the way we hold I hold the camera when I film it. We have a gimbal and we put it up against the body. And I used to be able to see the fucking screen and fuck like I said, everything's blurred now. It's so bad. You need to get new lenses, new. I know I need to get new glasses today. You know, people think, yeah, it's great, and you're always fucking driving great cars, you have you're driving you're having a great lifestyle, you know, and it's easy work, you maybe. No, you work for it, that's it, or if I say but it has took a toll on its health, like it's fucked by us, doing it.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

Just sitting, you know. That's from being seated all day, there's no legal.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

No, it was when I'm out working, when we're out working, we're working. We're out filming, like fucking gimbal's heavy, like we're very filming. And if I'm out photographing the fucking two cameras just swinging about, uh two ball bags, you know, just swinging about. And it is heavy, it takes a toll in the body, like. You know, people say it's a big thing. But a cushion for the pushing, you know. No, we love it. Fucking we love it. Love every bit of it. So it is.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

Did you ever participate in any sport? I know you say you've done a bit of kickboxing, but did you ever like play football or any other sport? Hated it.

SPEAKER_02 35:05

You know, I was a kid, I would have been the kid that would have been last picked in the football line.

SPEAKER_03 35:09

You would put nets?

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Nats?

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Get a big meter delta, putting your nets, just have blasters out there.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

I wasn't I was a kid, so it was that uh was picked last.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

So it was fucking never I hated sports. So that did you ever like follow sports in terms of like football team, anything like that? Nothing. Not football. Fucking uh like the people say Snicker.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Snuggers are sport, but I never seen it sports, but I did follow Snicker. Who's your favorite single player? Back in the day, so it was definitely the Ronnie Ronnie O'Sonne. Ronnie O'Sullivan, I still he's still going back. Uh it was so bad. Um Alex Higgins would have been my yeah, look we'd have looked up to Alex Higgins when I played Snugger, and his background um would have been just drinking and stuff out there.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

That's crazy, and it like just so uh just talented, just so. He's so fucking talented, you know, Ronnie O'Sullivan.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

I just love watching the both of them play. But I always remember Alex Higgins um when I would put the TV on, Alex Higgins would have been on when I was really young, and the way he was potting. Um I knew nothing about Snugger, but it was just it was just a good show. So it was and when I I think it was about when I was about twenty I was driving, I was in town, so it was fucking driving my Subaru, fucking light super, fucking driving through town, so it was parked up, got something to eat, and this guy comes up to me and says we go to left up the road, and fucking nah it. He was drunk. Yeah, he goes, Nah, meet for fuck's sake, you know, says I just told him I just jog on. I don't know, like I don't know who he was, but then we don't turn around and say, that's Alex Hicken's up, you know. So I give him a lot for fucking that's classic. But you know, hindsight going back said I was a bit of a con, like not helping the guy out. Yeah. Yeah, you know, but I don't know who he was at the time, you know. And I had to be safe myself. Oh wow, you know, but yeah, I looked at him and said, Oh, for flop's sake, like you know, he can't really say no, but I can't.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

And did you say it to him? Did you like him? No, I didn't say that. Did you let him know that you knew who he was? No, I didn't. I just thought I was a kid in the car. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

He was literally hammered. I I dropped him off at the bottom uh Lesburn road now, uh, just where just past where Belle Ben Gall was and Bengal. I don't know, so I was wondering where the fuck would he have gone there from there on? Probably like an old brothel or something. Man, he was hammered. I'd say, what would he have done in the brothel I don't say?

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Oh, that's right you were telling me you're was that the place you're your granddaughter? The Windsor Windsor Snicker Club, probably the one upstairs or then no.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

I don't think it's somewhere else, no.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

No, no, it was it's now like a jiu-jitsu place, I think, but like back in the day it was the Windsor Snicker Club that had like twenty-off snugger tables in it.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

Ah, there you go, you're funny.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

Is it there you go? Floppy definitely wasn't playing Snugger anyway. Floppy was absolutely hammered. He was hammered back on the pink. You know, could you go to why I wouldn't let him in the front uh you know the sky under the car start or flops? Yeah, exactly. Because I always kept my motors always pristine soda, you know, no one's allowed to eat in it. Do you eat your cars?

SPEAKER_03 38:18

You really in their cars?

Guinness, Pubs, And Local Rituals

SPEAKER_02 38:19

I like the motors so though, yeah. Yeah, what do you drive now? I drive a defender. So defender? I was talking about uh Land Rover, but yesterday the fucking the kids got in the car for and I was actually fucking ripping, so it was the fucking they got a sandwich or something, and they opened up fucking sandwiches in the back of my car. And he was ripping for a second. I didn't say anything, but I was ripping for fucking not the sandwiches, soup as well. I'm drinking. Soup and the car fucking smells a soup. Or fucking was ripping and I was fucking trying to compose myself, fucking ripping the fucking ribbon. I was like, fucking open soup in my car. I don't have to fucking put the winding down, folks. Are you warm? You know, like no my car's a no eight and zone. No eating in the car. You know, it's the same as the cars before, like, it's like no eight and zone or folks like, you know, having no eight. You know? Because I used to fucking like I I did drive like a deckhead before, but I'm I'm very relaxed now, a calm driver. So yeah, I used to throw the cars in the corner and guess it's great, you know. I was lucky, touch 'em with fucking touch them with I've I've never been in a an accident, a hot accent, you know.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

I have racked the cars before, like. You're not the you're not like the the daily uh Battlefast mom putting them for whippers every day. I know the game doesn't fucking hell, like I know people are so bad for this. Uh fuck. I know a fella who right a fella and oh don't eat her on the middle of the road and a car wiped him out. It's his fault because he's done a eastern. He was trying to pick someone up. And he put him for whipper. And another fella I know heard that it happened. They knew each other very well. And he just went to the doctor and says he was in the car without telling the other guy. Oh what? And he got like seven grand. Serious? Just by saying I was in the car. Just saying that what date was it? This date? When that happened, when it happened, what's it?

SPEAKER_02 40:19

Because now if you have a minor accident, please don't even want to know. They'll say if you phone the police and say we just had an accident, they just give you a reference number. Reference number, and that's it. You don't give a shit. So you can fucking say you can have half of fucking your street into that car. I know. Just bang them in the car and just say, Yeah, they were they were all in the car. Bags fucked. Fucking bags fuck, you get a few quid out of it. That's terrible, like. I know, but you fucking know as well, like half of the like nothing, not half, there's a good percentage, high percentage of cars on the road are DLA cars.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Oh, fucking most of them.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Most of them, probably like yeah. And then wherever I was living, West Belfast, they called the fucking DLA City.

SPEAKER_03 40:54

Oh, that's it. It's so bad. That's everyone does it. Like if people just apply for DLA now, it's it's not like it's just. If they get turned down for DLA, just do it again. Just apply for it. I know a fella was uh was on DLA and he was out running one time and he shouldn't have been running and he seen his doctor. So he fucking freaked out. But then he went out so he went out running again. The next time when he went out running, he brought a knife with him. And he just ran out running with a knife in case he seen his doctor again, so his doctor could be like fuck his heads away. So he'd keep his DLA. Are you serious?

SPEAKER_02 41:27

Fucking hell, it is bots on this flop. And how fucking people back in the I don't know how many people were claiming fucking uh universal credit with the COVID now. Oh wow. Tom, Dick, and Harry claiming universal credit and doing a double doing deliveries and stuff like that. It's like fucking It has to be done. But help me. Is that the way of living in Belfast at all? Listen, people need it. Or folks like back nothing. You know, claiming universal credit as well. I'm influenced. Oh my god, that's funny. That's bad crackling. One of my friends said um he works in the police, the P um the public prosecution service. Oh PBA probation officer? No, not probation, it's a public prosecution. So he he would he would be in office, so no, he was a year and there for someone getting prosecuted or not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he says, Fucking John, why the fuck are you out of all places? Why live there? You know, we're always in and out of that place. I know. Doesn't matter anyone know what. Jesus is so bad, like sure. But it's made me the person I am today. Oh well. I don't know how many fucking times are fucking maybe, you know, like squared up to someone, you know. The days of going up the into uh into the West Like, you know, you you would have seen burning out cars or one being fucking burnt out and one's being stolen.

SPEAKER_03 43:01

It's crazy. Where I live, like it was c very common. It was cars stolen every day. Oh why?

SPEAKER_02 43:07

Yeah. But you don't see it, it's nothing still.

SPEAKER_03 43:14

No, I don't see them in the city.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

I don't see anything the same. So I don't know, say not. I haven't been in that uh area for a long time now. Had to give you a wee tier up through it, up through west, up through west. All the bad areas. All the good all the great areas. You know, that's the first one I've done. When I done um um the working class podcast, well he's at the top of um what do you call Tight Rock so that I said is my car okay there? You know? I said I'll be alright, it'll be alright.

SPEAKER_03 43:43

I'll be sharing this day and age, no one really I don't really think there's much people get involved in car crime, but like as if you have valuables now about chance to win like if you have a phone land or a phone. But even phones either are useless. No, like I went to London, set my phone on the table, someone stole it. Serious? Like I didn't like come over to try and sell us something, and we were like, no, mate, go away, look, and then he walked away. And then I went, my phone, I just I knew where they were within like ten seconds.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

Oh, you didn't just snatch and just run.

Work, Weddings, And Editing Toll

SPEAKER_03 44:17

Oh no, I was just sitting on the table and we were sitting having a drink, we were going to a cold play concert, and I had my phone on the table, the phone was there. Uh-huh. So I wasn't using it, it was just sitting on the table on the phone.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Your phone, that phone will probably be imported straight into China. But like on that's honestly what value is it?

SPEAKER_03 44:35

Like probably a quote, fucking couple of folks. Probably a parts, you know what I mean? Like fucking probably what 50 quid maybe, maybe in parts. Fuck that. There must be a bit of more than that. They can't get into their phone, it's completely off the phone.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

The only thing they can't get into is a part where all your info stored, yeah. So it is not dirty. Yeah, it's fucking nice. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 44:54

Whatever with whatever they're doing, it's it's happening all the time, so it is. And then check the bars like you should have cameras, he's like, mate, even if we have cameras, we're never gonna know who that guy is. Like, yeah, that's it. Like, there's just so many people in London doing this, dealing as you're never gonna know how to London life, so it is crazy in that. It's crazy. It's very popular in Barcelona as well, where people like next off.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

This is me fucking this this is me being an absolute chip. I've seen this lady. I seen this nowhere to a lie. Over the summer, this year lady. You call her Claire from Fuppin' put her down, and she does club world. And always on cheap fucking holidays, cheap fucking holidays. First me fucking going cheap holiday, book the fucking cheap holiday, not realising it's gonna be fucking baltic. Oh rephrasing. Refrasing over. I fucking there's not gonna be no deck down there. It's gonna be fucking shriveled up. It's gonna be coming out of my ass. Fucking hell I So there's me. No, no check, no checking luggage, nothing. It's only just a carry-on. So I don't know what the fuck I'm gonna bring. I am a jeep that way. I may just bring another pair of photos, perhaps, pair of clean chunks. That's it. That's what I'm saying. That's what you're getting. So bad so that's and uh yeah, I've actually picked a couple of cheap holidays with Claire, but it's great. I don't mind so you know, but just thinking back as fucking hell, like just don't be a gym, John. Just pay the extra to get the extra warmer, warmer time to go to Prague or flipping, you know, closer to the city.

SPEAKER_03 46:24

You know, have you picked any excursions over or you've done it? I haven't though just I've been to Prague, it's a great, great spot.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Like it's cheap. People say it's cheap. I heard people are saying cheap. Now, a couple of weddings ago, one of the one of my brides, uh her husband, um, he's from Prague, you know, but he they're probably actually back now, so they are because they've done Prague over the new year sort of and uh they should be back now. So they should be able to get it.

SPEAKER_03 46:46

Yeah, it's cheap off now, and there's like loads of stuff in the go to like uh you can go and shoot guns and stuff as well.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

In the clip shooting already.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

No, but there is a refer a bit to the in project and it's it's it's good, it's good to see all like skirt. There's like loads of like tourist attractions and all that.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

Uh probably end up doing a tourist attraction, you know. I'll do a couple of week clips, you know, video clips for my socials and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Um Budapest of Budapest is not I've never been to Budapest, but it's some place it's a place I really want to go, it's in Hungary. I would love to go where they've got them like big outdoor spa, you know, the big massive jacuzzi's and all it's massive, like, but uh I'd love to try out like somewhere down the lane. I just think I should have picked somewhere warmer, you know.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

Like where would you go then? You know, just tenry fine, right enough. They should be in their twenties anyway.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

Just in their twenties, my brother's in Lanzarote, I think, or he's just back yesterday. He was there just after Christmas and it was like 2022, 23.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

Yeah, so get the heat and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 47:57

I know I I there's nothing better than going away in this in the when it's winter here, winter here, so does all right. That's great because uh you know everyone else is back freezing their buffers off and you're landing the sun. That's it. Dubai as well, Dubai is very wonderful. Have you ever been to Dubai?

SPEAKER_02 48:10

I've been in Dubai, so half um years ago. Um what we just stopped off in Dubai. So we did. Um our plane, our plane was we were going to Hong Kong, but our plane was delayed. So we were allowed out of the hotel. Sorry, uh we were allowed out of the airport, yeah. And then go get checked in, they gave us a hotel. So we got a hotel now, and we just got we just booked off an excursion, like a city excursion. So we drove around, got some photos of the you know, like the the birds and all, yeah, all that stuff, and that was it. Yeah, yeah. And just jumped on the plane back straight over to Hong Kong. That was good, so it was, but it was so warm that day. We went in the summer to Hong Kong. Um the heat in Dubai was a completely diff different kind of heat in Hong Kong. Hong Kong was a humid heat. Humid. Dubai was a dry heat.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fucking it was unbearable. Is uh what's the weather what so see in Hong Kong now would the weather be freezing or is it warm still?

SPEAKER_02 49:06

Well, Hong Kong now is still uh double digits. Oh wow. So you're probably about talking about probably about yeah, 15 degrees. But that's dirt cold. That's cold time in Hong Kong. That's our winter time. But uh winter time, but I don't know. Thirty, forty, but it's humid. Humidity. The humidity, the humidity is fucking rough like kills you. You walk out and you're soaking already.

SPEAKER_03 49:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

So you are just sweating and sweating and sweating. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_03 49:33

Do you uh do you like the hate dirty like like 21? Do you want to do that? Some people prefer Do you ever see people who go I can't wait to winter when it's summertime? I'm like, fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

I just like I've been looking forward to the summer heat.

SPEAKER_03 49:47

I can't wait, I just hate despise the winter. There's nothing to be seen right now. But you're okay training then in the in the in the cold heat? In the cold? Nah. I don't really like training in the cold. I think I have that syndrome. There's like an SAD syndrome, it's for like when you I don't know what it what it's called what the actual name is, but it's for people who hate the coldness and I have it. I fuck it puts me in a bad form. Like see when I know that the summer's coming to the end, I start getting depressed. I get like I fucking dread. I'm proper dread in the winter here.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Put more fights in, you know. Move out of here to fucking move out of it out of here.

SPEAKER_03 50:29

We're fuck it's a it's a shambles. Me and you're gonna east bottom spoon somewhere nice and warm.

SPEAKER_02 50:38

You know what I mean? You're gonna fucking train me to fucking come back here. John, where the fuck have you gone? Holy fuck, John, you've got a technique. Fucking hell, eh? I'll be good, I'll be good, crack, right? 100%.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

Well look, listen, we'll we'll we'll not waste any more of your Saturday. That's we've done well here. You've been on for near an hour and we've had a bit of crack anyway, John. So it's good, it's good. I appreciate you coming on, fella. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

Thank you, man. That's a wrap.