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The Public Nuisance Podcast
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The Public Nuisance Podcast
The Public Nuisance Podcast #063 “Cancel The Cameo” with Gerard Little & Eamon McCarthy
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Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Gerard Little & Eamon McCarthy to the podcast.
We cover amateur football politics, pro contracts and youth-team heartbreak, Celtic stories and Paolo Di Canio madness, delegation and dressing-room leadership, fear of failure driving performance, assistant manager egos, losing jobs in football, community clubs punching above their weight, West Belfast pride, sponsor pressure jokes, refereeing controversies, promotion ambition, group chat carnage, ice-cream-after-5K logic, parenting and motivation, why sometimes the changing room is better than the result and much more.
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Warm Welcome And Banter
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SPEAKER_03It's great to have the two lads up in Polyclora Day. Um it's been a long time. I've been trying to get you on a well now skin. It's it's fell through a few times.
SPEAKER_06So that was sort of my fault. Apologies.
SPEAKER_00He gets carried away by himself. He's been sacked that many times in all their clubs in the club. He thinks he's got a big club here going in. He's thrown a few quit about these. He's the big money, big big hitters here. Cut that out, there's no more.
SPEAKER_03I bet it's we're here anyway. We've got here in the end, and that's fun. It's good to have you on.
SPEAKER_06Thanks for having us on. Thank you. I thought you only brought your real the real celebrities on. Like we you know, we aren't really celebrity. Well, skin's a bit of a celebrity, but uh I'm a quack guy. You know yourself, Sean.
SPEAKER_03You just do you work behind the scenes. I'm sort of a behind the scenes type guy. Face for radio and all that, do you know what I mean? Did you manage to get out in Anton?
SPEAKER_00No, I I put him on the big stage. He brought in players like me who was finished. And uh no, we actually had a really successful.
From Celtic Profile To Newton Pitch
SPEAKER_06I thought so I was managing the intern at the time and um Skim was sort of losing his way a bit in the Irish League, for want of better words. Do you know what I mean? But in North Belfast, Skim was still quite uh you know, he had a real good name. Obviously, he was at Celtic. I don't know whether it was Danigal or Lurgan, but he was he was at Celtic. He was at Sal he was at Celtic for that period of time and he still had a quite a high profile. And I thought I'm gonna ring him and ask him would he come down in Newton. Uh at all levels, like at there's an opportunity for him to say, Are you fucking serious? I know like I play for Celtic and you want me to go and play for Newton, the amateur league, so you're always taking that risk and he tell you to the jaw go on. So I got his number, I phoned somebody, I said you give me Skin Little's number. And um I rang him, they answered the phone, and uh I thought he answered the phone, and I give it a 20-minute pitch about how good Newton was and about community spirit and all that there. And uh the cat the only phone says, I think it's my son you're looking for. So it was his dad, 'cause his task, and it'll God rest him. Uh but it was his dad it was his task and so I'm giving it the whole pitch and what he would mean to play for the club and community and all this here. And his dad let me speak a whole way through, and at the end of it goes, I think it's my son you're looking for. So we checked him down and um he signed for us. Um and uh we had a really good run. We took a team out there the quarter finals of the Irish Cup where we beat uh in Lion. We're beat 2-1, we're beating Lion 1-0 the quarterfinals. Uh huh. And we would have played Banger and the Samis, and Banger weren't going over really well at the time. So New and Tunnel effect probably at you were 90 minutes away from going to Europe. You think about it? Because Linfield Linfield I think won the cup and and they obviously would have qualified as league winners. So there was um we played in the quarterfinals, we're in a one-nil. I get sent off there 25 minutes, and Jar get sent off 94th minute or something. They scored 11 minutes and they were. Well, we did, but I sort of had a hard time that day. We didn't really rub it again, but we'll leave that for another day. But but a good time together, we won the league in the cup, and uh he's met the response, yeah. So I'd never met him, and as I said, I thought he could have told me where to go, and then the two of us end up stricking a bit of a friendship up and he knew that you know I had much of a clue about football at the time, so he was helping me out.
SPEAKER_03It's good, but it's a good character, it shows you a character you are, but there's obviously no way over 'cause I know many people. It happens in in boxing where people go and fight let's say in the SSE. I mean they got the fitness small hole, so you know, fuck out in that fitness small hole. So we don't fuck he like you didn't head in there in a the SSE just for it.
Cup Run, Red Cards, And Near-Miss With Europe
SPEAKER_00He takes you know him better, probably well you know him not better than me, but you know him a l uh a long time now and he takes no for an answer. Yeah so it was one of the M ones I think you meant to say he doesn't take no for an answer. But what what what happened was he uh I I was actually I fell out not fell out of love of football, I was finished, started up a new business and I was kind of putting all the hours in the ad. And obviously he had contacted me about about coming down. I'd finished playing hamstrings were killing me, everything. Yeah. And we had an agreement about training. I said, we can't train two nights a week, I'll do one night as long as you you're happy with that, and it and it worked out well. And in fact, I I don't think I missed too many games through being managed like that. Now I haven't been managed like that before. It was like an understanding. You're giving you your total day, it's totally outside. That's like bit of like friendship. It's like and if you didn't train then you didn't play, but we'll we aiming obviously that that one night. So but in in terms of his man management skills, uh like I've learned a lot from it, and I've probably never told them though. Don't want to give him a big head and he's a massive head at the minute. But his man management skills is up there with with the best in terms of motivating players and and and getting the best out of them and and all that. Um and what he does really well is he he brings people in around him who where he sort of isn't so good at in terms of the the training pitch or it's not that he's not so good at it, but it's just not his foretast. So um and and that's for me, and he's probably been one of the most successful amateur league managers in in the country for a long time. Keep going on. That's that's enough that's enough of a compromise for an eye, but no, but it is, and and I I my time with Eamon playing under him, I really enjoyed. I really actually enjoyed it. The the football was good, good really good players he brought him on board. Um you know, we were we were winning games, we were winning trophies, um, crack was good afterwards, social side was brilliant, so it was it was really uh fun times.
SPEAKER_03That's half a bottle, isn't it? When you go into like it's my cause you your your football career could have ended and just been like not sorry, but like fuck it. It's like I don't I don't like it. We actually finished going like I haven't joined us, and I'm probably capped in football near enough. Well it didn't start a business. Absolutely. So I'd probably fuck it up on the coaching badges and then you go big shout out to that praise guy. Changing people's lives daily with massive prizes at stake. Shoot across to their socials, check out what prizes are in store, and who knows, you may be the next lucky winner.
SPEAKER_00Well what what he done was, and he and again he had that he could have just said, Man, that was it. Like I'm just out next minute, the Irish news is during the next day. You know, uh pictures and even a ton tapping and the business and stuff, you know. So he he builds you up and made you feel special, made you feel important. And it was good, and I and again I you know, players and regardless, you know, yourself and sportsmen, regardless of any age, you always want to feel true.
SPEAKER_06I think for us I think for us at the time, football's about um where you are in terms of publicity and PR and all that. There you know, it's not just a game. You know, when I when he signed for us, uh all of a sudden the journalists wanted to talk to you. Yeah. New and Tom was on the map. People, you know, we nice to Slag and think said New and Tom everybody thought it was a credit union until we started doing a few games, you know, and but all of a sudden then, you know, I remember that the um North Pell Fashion News had a big spread little by little.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Picture of him with a ball, me and him, and and then the Irish News got involved, and people were ringing and saying, Are you saying George Little and all? And just to kick just getting the targets, it brings you a wee bit of reputation and it puts you on, and uh you know we'll get tortured for sending stuff with the Swifts, but but it's that snowball.
SPEAKER_04Oh, encourages other personality. Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06Like if you fast forward to today, Jude Winchester signed it for Swifts, as you know, has encouraged other people to sign. There's four or five people have come in on the back of Jude saying, Well, if Jude can do it, you know, I can do it. I know Jude's not limited concerned.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's not fucking any piece of it.
SPEAKER_06But you but you know what I mean? People are saying, Well, it's good enough for Jude, and um it it sort of opens that up where people probably would have turned their nose up previously. And it was definitely a case with Jared back in the day, and it was there was a lot of PR to it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, back then you probably wouldn't have seen as much because there probably wasn't like you share wasn't probably any budget nine clubs. Well, there was no money involved. So it was just like it was just I just want to play and just have a better.
SPEAKER_06I think now and even then, you know, I've always said that I remember saying to him, Listen, I can't you're not playing at the best level in the world, but I promise you'll enjoy it. And I remember he sending me at the time, Bradley was a young, his young Bradley was a young lad, and probably never got to see him playing football.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And he wanted to put that right. So, you know, he put on some fantastic performances for us, but it was more the PR and the you know, it was a big name for us at that time. And you know, people were coming up just saying Jared up playing a day against us, and you know, it was that sort of uh quite to watch it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's like one watchy or something.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, and it's it's I say it definitely encouraged other people, and that was good. So what became mates after now tapped into his knowledge of football, he was always a good student of the game. Tapped into it, and you know, he's helped me in all my career, and and and I was still going to him today for you know, he'd help me with set pieces and he'd talk through different things. He's a good understanding game, and he's gone to a good level and had a lot of good experience. So it works very well for his show, you know. He turned up in the fashion.
Winning Trophies And Reigniting Love For Football
SPEAKER_03Oh it's uh the football's obviously changed massively, even like as an amateur level gone up, Learnington and I push now as well. Um do you think from then like f from like that was the start of it, like bigger names starting they start smaller clubs attracting bigger names. Because back then, like you would like I had a mate, George George McCabe, do you know Jardo? George McCabe from DC and stuff, playing for Clintville. Um he was the same, I remember, like he was going to play for like a lower league like Negle or something, and everyone was like, What the fuck's he doing? But he broke his leg and then he got sat off for DC, he broke someone else's leg. And he just he you could just tell he wasn't in Joe and football anymore, then he just wanted to play for Negle or something, and he was not meaningful, he was a special footballer. And everyone was like, What's he doing? Playing there. Everyone was like, He fucking love playing there, but then he was just playing for love and that was it. Today's episode is sponsored by the Wing Society on the Lisburn Road, a place where you can get all things chicken. Tenders, chicken burgers, wings, amazing sauces, amazing flavour, sit in, takeaway listen, whatever you want, but they've got it. It's unbelievable, grub. Check it out. 338 Lisbon Road.
SPEAKER_00There's a lot to be said as well, and a lot a lot too, like I said at the timing of of Eamon asking me. I sort of lost interest uh in a way in terms of my whole focus now was turning on business and life after football. Yeah. And like you you don't know and Eamon I know, it's time consuming. You know, you're out two nights a week, it's Saturday, all that. So I just I had enough of it. And then as I say, he came in and just completely turned it around and and I started falling in love with football again, got me back into coaching and got me thinking about the game again and where I wanted to go on my journey, and and obviously now, you know, in terms of managing and coaching, he probably played a part in it without knowing that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_06I think you know, we we done a we'd done a run that year. As I say, we won the league in the cup. You know, we got promoted the year before from one eye to Premier League, and I remember um the club were saying like just you know stabilise the club and you know, you know, just settle down in the Premier League. And I had no intention of settling down. I wanted to win it. I wanted to win it, you know, and we went and we won it, and we won the Border Cup in the same year. Um and uh we got the quarterfinals, the Irish Cup. It was probably a season that won't be repeated, you know. We um you know we're winning one nil in the quarterfinal and the Irish Cup has to go to semi-finals, you know, and and and that was down to Jard and Donny Hill and and Buggy Bradley with loads of good players, Sean Adams.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. 100%. One week, small, stupid decision. Could just you could be fucking four or five nil down half time, they got because experience.
SPEAKER_00Well it did well against us. It it really did. Like we we were well in the game against um well they were really premiership at the time, were they? Lorne, yeah, yeah. Lorne and uh at Lorne, and and we were dominating them, and we went one nil up, and then we got a disallowed goal, which was that much over the line. And then it caused a lot of sort of he gets he lost a head, he got sent off, and it just window. And that was probably a difference uh and when you look back and hindsight look back and think the experience of that, yes, but how we handled it in terms of premiership clubs were probably in a little bit more discipline where we were ah we're getting cheated, we're getting this, we're getting that. You know what I mean? And we lost our whole thing slamming each other. Yeah, yeah.
PR, Community, And Putting Newton On The Map
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we did we did feel cheated that day. And and like you know, I mean everyone says it, and I've tried my best to to understand referees and see where they come from. But I just felt that day we're gonna 1-0, got a goal disallowed, Neil Quinn scored a smasher and just disallowed it, it was a foot over the lane. I get sent off after 25 minutes, and one of the complaints he had was I because I jumped on the pits to celebrate the it's a very small touch line at Lyon. Yeah, and when we took a lead, I put two steps forward and was on the pits, and he said, I mean, you need a you can't come on the pits, and he picked me for it. But he didn't know at the time that we were doing a documentary for uh season ticket that Thomas Kane was doing for the BBC, so I was wired, I was making up. So the referee comes over and he's going, You have to get into your box and that's what he kept sending me. And it it sort of he didn't know, I was just microphone, so it was on TV at night, and people were saying and I remember saying, Ref, we've took a lead, amateur league team, we've took a lead in the quarterfinals, yeah. And you're telling me you can't celebrate it. So I just felt it was against us all day, and then later on we got sentenced off, and then 11th minute injury time they they scored a winner. So you know but I think what I'm saying is you know, Jared probably came in and went, pfft, you know, amateur league, don't know where that season he's probably having. F from where he's been, you know, I think Jared and I talk about it, he played for Sand League Reserves in the Glasgow Cup final in that reach. How many he was at the game?
SPEAKER_00No, it was uh just a reserve game. It was uh international week. We played Rangers and um there's no games in England, Premiership, uh Championship, and then obviously no games in Scotland because of the international. And at that time, Rangers, I don't know if you remember, St. Alberts and Catuso and all they just went mad, drops all them.
SPEAKER_03No, no, way before that. I think before the nineteen ninety two.
SPEAKER_00So I uh so I was playing against them and we played them, I was only seventeen, eighteen, and it was thirty eight, thirty thirty eight and a half thousand at Ibrox watching this because all the new players were were playing. And uh we drew, I think, one each with him. And I got sent off after I was marked too, so couldn't get near him. And I remember hitting him. Oh jeez, I can't get near, I need to stop him. Yeah, I was just everywhere. All over the place. And uh he's a tough enough player too, so you're all I just hit this company's that good. Well he was also it was it was and it was a great experience, but um but I uh again I ended up getting sent off in the 20th minute or something, two yellow cards. I was I was devastated because it was a big day. Yeah, big sorry, biggest crowd I've ever played for that big occasion. And then an o an O lad actually from Belfast um got sent off later on as well. So two lads that let the team down. 3-1-8, they got a panty, and we we done really well. But the playing that and and obviously playing for Salty was the biggest biggest thing ever for me. I was a club I supporter growing up, yeah, as a kid, went to games with my dad, you know, great memories, all that. And then to go and play and represent and beat her every day and turn up a park head and you know, going through it and and and seeing your heroes, Paul McStays and Peter Grant's and Kidaddies and Hoy Dunks and all that. That's every day. And you and you don't realise until that's gone. You you think you just you take it for granted. Yeah, and you always hear the advice from from like Paul McStay and that was Burnett, you know, what what a guy. And you know, they're players you looked up to, but every day you just said, Look, don't regret, don't regret. Keep doing this, you know, doing that, it's I'll be going like I'll be going. But as a young lad, you don't think, I don't know, I'm gonna be here, I ain't gonna be playing here. I'm gonna take it in your jersey soon and no. But within within a year and a couple of years later, you're you're you're gonna down attacking her because you're not listening to people like that who's been in the game, who's played the game, and and it's it's just it was unbelievable. An experience there, like for I was there for four or five years, it was unbelievable.
SPEAKER_03So you would you train amongst them and stuff?
SPEAKER_00So at the start obviously you go in as a young player, YTS player, right? Um and you do your your trade, so-called trade, and you play in the youth team. And we had a really successful youth team then. Like we won the BP Youth Cup um and the league and the Glasgow Cup, so it was one of the M seasons we weren't playing against Barry Ferguson still my age. And we were brilliant really, really good. So there was what was three or four of us after the two years, you do the two year ITS and then you get cap on for it and get offered a pro or nothing. And I remember the day I love it, it'll never leave me. You're spent two years of your life with these guys every single day of the week, morning, noon, and night, eating with them, training with them, doing your chores, cleaning the boots, cleaning the change rooms, everything, and then you're sort of called in, and Tommy Burns got wrestling with the manager at the time. And uh and you're waiting, and you're watching a contract, making a protein, making a protein, and the ones are coming out and crying their eyes out, and oh no. But uh lucky enough, I was I was handed a pro deal. And I was like again, back then I I just took it for granted. You know, you do you don't realise how big that was. A wee lad from New Lodge going to Celtic, living its dream, and then offered a a pro deal uh with Tommy great Tommy Burns. And it was only I think it was only three or four of us that Tim offered these pro deals, and I ended up staying for an extra two years after it. So it was it was unbelievable. A sad day, but a really good day because you lost your mates, they're all gone, you know, and you've grew up with. He didn't give up.
Sponsorship Break And Local Shout-Outs
SPEAKER_06You know him? He didn't give him a saying fucking him already. Who?
SPEAKER_00I actually I actually do, but I still this day keep contact with a few of them. And there's there's actually one coming over to John Paul McBride, and we're married playing the first team a few times. What a player, what a talent, lunatic, but what a what a player. So he was public nuisance, like he was mad.
SPEAKER_03Who's the most gifted footballer you've played with in terms of not like who's the best, like who's the most gifted, naturally gifted, no like you train with and stuff?
SPEAKER_06I know I know the answer to that, but I'll be certain I know the answer to that.
SPEAKER_00I remember when the canoe came, I didn't know him, but I remember my first talking about lunatics. Oh my god, like I he fit in the St.
SPEAKER_06James's.
Ref Decisions, Documentary Mic, And Lessons
SPEAKER_00He's from Paris doll playing. I'll say he was what what a player, what a professional, but an absolute madman. Like uh beyond. And I remember I remember the first day we uh we were up pre-season with the first team, as we was up, and wherever we were going, I think it was Strathclyde Park or something to do the runs. And Coach picks us up, takes us from Parkhead over to Strathcate Park, and uh Decano and his agent interpreter was actually come on, just couldn't speak a word of English, and it it's a bit bit crude, like but so we went on and Palo stands up in front of a whole bus in the middle of it and goes ah whips his you know, starts straight and goes, Mamma mea and the interpreter going, Palo, Palo, no, no, please, no, no, I go move, bah everybody was and that was him, and he was he was the man a bit unbelievable. And he was burning and and I again I remember my mum and dad got arrest him as well over one of the games and after the after the match, I think with Plain Rangers, and uh we were walking up their car along um along a road in Palo out the window. I I called Jerry, they called me Jerry Guskett then decided to sell I looked like Guscat because it's for me's skin though. And he's shouting out the window, Jerry Guscat, Guscat. I go, Is that Palo the canoe? And I went, ah, it's badly me. But but he was unbelievable, and in training, like he couldn't get his head around. See anyone at that time it was like Simon Donnellys and Jackie McNamara, they're all breaking through, young players breaking through the the team. And he would have been first on the training pitch last off it, and there was young players like couldn't wait to get off to go play golf and drive his drive him honestly used to go mad about it and used to crack up, but seeing the seeing the training in the gym, his eyes, his quads, his arms, a machine, absolute machine.
SPEAKER_03That's right, I I I say I think I would say that regularly, like even like I can't understand how anyone like see whenever you say, like for example when you get a pro contract, that's when the work only starts. You see how he came when he got a pro contract with Spurs, Tim Sherwick and he ended up just hiring a full-time chef for his nutrition. And then he's like paying a chef$20 a month just to cook his meals and he's like, Nah, I start. That's the way it should be. Like people get this pro-contract and go off meal. I mean, I know. And it's like that's the complete worst thing that happened. Yeah, that's when the work only starts, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_03Because if you want to compete, see whatever say, like for example, when I was boxing, I was seventeen. And I was fighting the seniors, but you're fighting our senior champions, they're all full time offerings. So they're all funded, Potty Barnes, you've John Joe and Avin, all the top fighters at that time. So I'm seventeen trying to go into senior school. You have no chance because they're senior full time, so like you hold me. So if you want to compete, we can see I have to train full time. So I started beating school, I had to go and train at seven in the morning. wasn't finished to like and then I was in the school later every day and then coming right and trying to get six and I fought John Joe Adam and he only beat me at a point. And he went he was in a big he was an epic silver manister. And then they were like right the scene of a tattoo brought me in. But as soon as I got in I was like right I need a case so it was like McInstilled at me like if you want to compete yeah if you want to compete with these guys you have to do with their day. As simple as that for me. And then and then that's where when I worked I was like you know what he's right I have no chance of beating these fellas embarrassing. Yeah because it's an individual sport box. For for me losing is embarrassing. I can't see no matter who I lose against what whatever level I like I be like distraught or embarrassment. Yeah. Like when I got dropped that time he thought he'd be rid of it. I got popped in the hole out the second round she as soon as I got up I was scondered. Yeah. We were all sending you but that should be and see anyone who competes in sport how the fuck's that not in them.
SPEAKER_06Yeah like naturally it should be like yes everybody at the club were were were gutted when you went down but then let it no we burn noise all business on too many people. But we needed you to convert them in the fight so you'd done that to be for you get up and you you you went won the fight and then it became funny again. So it wasn't funny at the time because we thought that your career was in danger.
SPEAKER_03Like people called me how'd you feel like Pete when I went back to the corner I wasn't days around but I was sitting in the corner like that and people's like I was like people's like Sean what fuck me he wasn't even running off of Sundays what what what's going on? And I was just like don't worry about it, he'll not have me run again.
SPEAKER_00And what was that was that lack of concentration or concentration.
SPEAKER_03Do you know what I didn't think he had on him to throw that punch, that counterpunch I didn't have that time in him but it wasn't till after the fight and this is my again my mentality was just bad for like overlooking someone he told me that that's all they worked on the whole camp was I had to slip right hand left hook trying to slip right hand left hook. He says we just worked on that the whole camp we knew we do want to jump in or one to eat some stays 'cause you did. And then I was like fuck so people are watching to do watch and people do put a game plan there and then they go just keep it in the city. What's the levels in it? And then when I got hit that once I went I literally sat in the corner I was embarrassed.
Celtic Memories And Pro Deal Reality
SPEAKER_06Like I was going out fucking should be getting hit with shots like that and that or should be the way a sports person should be I believe that's how you should be I think everyone should be I think fear of failure has always driven me personally and I think it's a it's it's in every sportsman at this level that you know you sort of think to yourself you're right you know we if we get beat even in a derby match if if we were to lose the Belfaston one of the West Belfast clubs even now put your head there. You want to stay there all the time it's embarrassing. You feel embarrassed you've lost a game you know it's it's that fear of failure that drives it on and it's sometimes it gets too big for people and it puts them off actually trying things and doing things. You know you you're gonna say listen I think they're fail before that's a program in their head it's it is so it it's something that's always driven me on you know but the skin was right like he sort of went from playing for the great Tommy Burns to playing for Cannabis cousin coming in I know it's gonna live but it was his 40th part I like to watch Cannon Burns legend so I think he was in here and he says Bray Robert Loosley's taking him down to Galbourne for his 40th was it he was on the Sierra podcast it must have been what was it?
SPEAKER_00November November something's gonna what the fuck I thought it was yeah more chance in him we we had some time I didn't know until we bring him up he had he was actually doing better team talks than him in the day doing a team talking about those team talks are classic those team talks are brilliant one of the lads we had seen a couple of lads from from Mobile Bank and the first time they were just like the first the very first time they couldn't believe it.
SPEAKER_03I don't think anyone ever like warned him of it to come in at halftime and before the match it was like we better hang then at halftime he was like we can Winchester was like me going like and then after the match he's like is he fucking real that's just normal. That is and that that's that's one of his big strengths it's the character it's how you have a that's how you have a relationship with players you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah but I I feel now that that's nearly gone in the game Sean in terms of that motivating players and and like very very rarely see it now and I think it's probably a new generation of managers now leave them changing them to players where I still feel a manager and and coaches still play a part in it in terms of they all say now if if if you need motivated by a manager then you shouldn't be playing which which is fine but we all need to EZ up and there and there's everybody's different players are different. Some people have different days so and that's one thing I always thought that that the demon had a big strength in him was was that motivating.
SPEAKER_03Because I was actually Ogers was on here a couple weeks ago and I was saying like I know Ogers he'd be like a long time he's a burning fella and he's obviously having out the crews and everything he says you seem like the type of player who'll just go over or a manager will just grab someone be like, come on here sometimes you'll he'll know he's a good character, he's a good judge character and like a away from all success I mean he like the crews aren't too hard at the minute there so I'm just hoping he he he is that type of character. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah 100%. But it is it's young young players now I just say I like it's hard the the the games change and and even like you're talking about you know being hurt after games or hurt hurt after a fight or hurt I and it's not questioning players but I I don't feel I think now managers and coaching staff and staff are more hurt and they carry it on and maybe that's a generation of how we were brought up and how we were brought through where players can just that could be Switzerland and it just the game's over and that's it and and again that could be I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing but for me like I I'd be like I'm old school that way I take it home with me and I think I think the younger generation now it's a different game altogether.
Di Canio Stories And Professional Standards
SPEAKER_06Because if you look at footballers now and you know the young lads they're they're all neat and tidy on the ball. Yeah you know they're all they're all technically very good but because they're trained they're coached to within an inch of their life. Yeah you know me I'm right let's go go and enjoy yourselves and express yourselves let let's go where you can see players that they're turning in a certain way and they're passing it short and they're just doing their nigga robotic and what they're doing. You know you do this turn and and we've always tried to give that better balance but listen don't be get me wrong I'm talking a totally different level. No intermediate level you know skin still talking about the higher echelons of Irish league Irish Cups and all that sort of thing so it is different and um people are paying for a living same as what you were saying about the boxing you say about getting a pressure with there is there is for you literally have to say one stage I was staying say at my weight category I was 60 kilograms on the Irish team and it was four of us it was me David Oliver Joyce it was Eric Donald I was actually George Bates it was loaded in the competition but it was only like it was that much I was a champion David Oliver was previous five time champion but they always wanted him to be the international boxer but it was it had to be me because I was number one so we always had a performing trainer but to be honest with you I felt so much pressure because of the funding so like sorry I was the head coach and he was like so I was boxing exactly how he wanted me to box but it wasn't making me perform against David Oliver Joyce he was the number two so when I was sparring him he was probably getting a better me spawn and I was like sorry this isn't working and he's like you are fucking this is beautiful to wait to do because he's he's from Georgia this is beautiful to wait to do this how you fucking you are fucking unbeatable when you box like this and I go don't feel like it doesn't look like it and he's number two so if he's not on the door and he's performing against me every time I spar they're gonna go fuck it to bring him the world championships.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So but I'm still trying to do what he wants me to do to stay number one and the so it was a lot of pressure because if you lose funding you're fucked you're back on the road and you're like how I'm not for to go to D how'd you the pressure did that drive you or did you nah I don't think it didn't what happened um they tried to make me have a box. Fuck you trying to make a learning like we're milking the brick on the brick each other fucking but they ended up um see when I got the biggest relief I moved up the weight to 64 kilograms and there was no no one outside was one more and he moved up as well. So all the pressure was relieved and then I just started boxing the way I want the box and then that's when I just went literally I just went boom and I just that was just me boxing or you like expressing myself basically but it's the same with football it's it's recognising what type of players they even said there are there you know some need an armored them some need motivated and it's the same even in in in football you know some you just need to let go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah you know and that's where you get the best out of them. If you program them and you're you're like sergeant major and you they tactically have to do yes, have to do that you're not getting the best out of them and it's it's it's that's why it's hard to fuck them on it's it's a lot of players in football there's twenty there's twenty one at the end of the first there's young kids coming through like who you give it like the I pets if you're the right but listen listen no one ever gets it right.
SPEAKER_06No football's about opinions and if we play tomorrow or next game there'll be the players will want to play a different thing. And everybody watching the game will say you should have done it this way and you should have done it that way. You have to sort of believe in yourself and say right, you know what I was the same as you on a totally different novel. I took over Newton when I was very very young. And sort of product of circumstances it happened at the club was very very young and a lot of people I just can't tell you they want me in charge. I was running the seconds and it was miles of it. I'd never done that before and there was a lot of pressure on me when I took a job and I thought I could be out of a job here within three weeks because if I don't get this right and hit the ground running. And I always described as trying to get the ship out of the docks you know because you're in trouble until you get out in the open sea. Because there's people there's there's people making waves and there's people around you didn't want you to get the job. It makes things difficult. So I always thought let's get the hair down get the snowball rolling and away we go and then luckily enough we won our first four or five games otherwise I probably never would have managed again because we would have got such a big fright from that time I probably never would have managed again. So that was a long time ago and look at the end of the day but like Skim was saying earlier on my two daughters are very big supporters Kenan and Russia they both love me managing they're they'll all come home and say tell you who was playing today and who you're playing tomorrow and what positions he playing and I see you and you're saying and they take a big interest in it and that and that's good for me. The the youngest we got Russia wasn't uh very old when we were having major success at Newton so she didn't see all them nights and the celebrations and all the stuff so we're trying to recreate it as best I can and that drives me you know everybody needs a driver people will always say and decent motivation sometimes the motivator needs motivated and it's hard to sort of project motivation yeah and that motivation is my family my wife's been very supportive to let me out you know what I mean you know what St. James's is like like you sort of leave at half ten in the morning and like I have to stay in the bar at twelve o'clock at night or I'll not do my half ten. Do you know what I mean? It's just like it's just part of the course it's part of my job. That's it.
SPEAKER_03So you know you you work hard all week you know well I do anyway skin doesn't but I work hard all I work hard all week and then on Saturday I'm away so you're really annoying Well I don't like I say is with his all with Swift's all the fuck it's time consuming there maybe that's fine he says they're at last I had no fate so it was alright I can get a fate there after it worked right well like but see it's mad because you go into it and you're and you're away the fuck we're wearing dry and we're fucking driving down away all day she's singing the change up at dad's house and I didn't see him every Saturday for over a year or probably and then I'm back fighting again but no it's mad I fucking miss it.
Boxing Mindset, Pressure, And Resilience
Motivation Versus Modern Coaching
SPEAKER_06I try to give it up three times and it's a it's a it's a change room it's where it drives you back he left I know he says everyone in the group chat's called St. James the Swift's temporary manager he fucking did promise I'm aware some things some things are close up in the Tribe insane somehow swear to God they give a fuck an alantanosaurhead somehow I I I I was of I had the chance of managing James's a few times and I turned it down a few times right because I thought they're the maddest sort of bastards I've ever met they're crazy right it's only when I really get into the club and start to know people that I realise they actually are mad bastards and they're crazy. But there's a good chance of community and that's what I'm all about I love the team spirit I love the community backing you've people like Mary standing in the gate Tuesday Thursday night freezing her and the other ladies rain, slater snow she's her collecting the£250 some lads coming in you know you have the likes of Don Murphy and and and and and Gabin and all the rest and everybody detoners all them people all want success on Saturday and you know what see if their paints taste a bit better because the Swifts have won then that's brilliant for me. But as you know we got the intermediate fan last year and the club sold 2,000 tickets. Like you think about that St. James is only about fucking streets or something 2,000 people I I go to Saldo a lot and you look at the away ground at South there's very few away teams in s in sc in in Scotland 500 people and over fucking whatever it was from the Irish league like it's not too many people bring that crowd and the power St James's is is strong it's it's a project and it's it's an absolute pleasure to lead them because they're they're good people and all I want to do is bring them success. Yeah because they're good people you go into Iraq and people recognise you and they want to have a chart you've got the ODs or whatever all they're good people you know and it it that's what's driving me. I just want to bring trophies to them I want to make my family happy individually but I also want to make people St James's I want to give them success you know they get involved a wee bit too sometimes you're under constraints like you probably don't know about this they probably shouldn't be saying it's nothing for him but like I said Joe Davor Joe Davis family you know connections they sponsor the club a lot so he has to play because Joe Joe shouldn't be getting in the team you know what I mean like I want to say it's fucking useless. All he does is kick people like if you wanted to start a rat you bring Joe up but he he have to play him because the sponsorship team our club relies on the licks so we have Joe has to play does that mean if I start sponsored about that people left back and get smoked it's only on the fence very fast body standard numbers I said Sean go you on left back everybody says Sean's decent and all they're back to me was back when he was tasting come on ahead Sean but uh they had a weird called Shannon Planet no hang up with Bally McCain's and he felt and but think with loss of Sandra haven't Sean was trying to talk and he was listening to Pap Cardio and he was going on the talk in so every time he talked in the the the rape bringer cat loads his head knocked a ball he brought they brought the baby black ladder on up top he was massive and the hadby had that banner loads of the ball to him and he was winning the ring swear man right hang on the we're just kicked with him swear double I was going on gonna be a bit tighter than him and go in front of him and Damaku's behind him just to just make it that way a bit more harder and he still won't and he was flipping on to the fucking way that was funny and he was still getting further further and he's like what's the point name all that seems like my catching bring me on I'll change the game fucking change assistant a gold come on about it. And I assisted a gold or they scored and I assist the do you think he scored one eight now and then I parried off he was shouting over the airline we could take his fucking electric scooter off the point just talking about the change rooms like there's nowhere else you'd get that like you've we've been in our change room like you you've had we're I think it was telling the story all night with Jude were I think it was I think it was the final but we're 4-0 up the final or something and we're worried about the next game and I didn't the change room we needed to win and we it was in the was it in the league we had to win by four more to go above the quarter no no I think it was that I think it was the final we played Desert Martin but with a couple of important league games come up after that that League Cup final but I went at halftime we're in a four nil I was seeing you're thinking about changes you know and I said Laz is anybody any alas right juge and his bag going so bad I was done I went the other cards I've been sitting there with six pack of the as he fucked it up what's wrong with your tomb room hair what's a tub room's a car give me head like a toe room Judge going a car listen to me and I say you put the characters you know yourself I have never said Halo like a most grumpiest man outside of fucking Mississippi like he's the grumpiest I've ever met my leave but and now he just laughs he used to be I said why yeah stop gunning he just looks at me and he starts complaining throws a hands up and then he just starts laughing because he knows he's he's cast himself on now but in that scene room and that's what I missed when I was out of it for a while you just sort of go fucking great satellite you know and see when him we are mates like I'd see when down to places where you're not very welcome yeah you know like and then go and turn teams over coming away with a wind and and then go back to bar talking about it it's hard to be that is hard to work but but is there any if there's any if you have any ambitions like the guar like not the guar but I mean would you ever have ambitions of coaching like coaching the guy no like because obviously you brought you and then anything would there ever be a stab of like McPhatan like it doesn't have to be in the next five years it'll be ten years now we've all fucked it up. No I always would love to work with skin you know but again he's on a different level than I am you know like I make no bones about it and I'm not saying this is the only reason but I put my my career first work. Yeah I've I've built a a decent career for myself as in the plumbing industry and and that's my first and foremost. So you know I would never have gone pushed on to get my badges and I never would have taken time away from that that's my bread and butter appearing my table app allows my family to to live and to and to enjoy their holidays and all that sort of stuff so but if an opportunity ever come up you know I think me him and Burnsie would make it a very fucking good three. Craig Shaw a good three coaches an Irish coach putting the lads to it. But listen first and foremost for me I'd like to I've said it before and the boys were like I don't mean when it first come in but I want to make St James's sort of only Irish league team at today in West Belfast because nobody's in West Belfast.
SPEAKER_03There's nobody are you know not even like PIL uh is still classed at the moment as Irish League and there's no representation from West Belfast in it you know and I I know they get a bad rap you know and and I've got they're not a million metres off you look at Bangor Banger was I remember when I was down Matin I was going it was one each one each down there like we had a bit of a bit of cracking squad then maybe Marty Marie playing and picked Darnley McFan all playing and Mark Clark Stadium it was a good strong squad then like but 3 1 each where I was down there we finish second wonder league they go up then it it's just not a millimetres off.
SPEAKER_06No and and listen you know as I say with a snowball if you win matches and you attract better players and it and it goes on and on and if St James's were able to make that step to either the PIL or the conference whatever it might be next year you think you would attract a another caliber of player exactly and then the thing goes on and on. So well maybe get skin in the case for years over years to come.
SPEAKER_00Yeah in the last what I don't know five years or so and I remember when Eamon said he was going obviously he was a crew beforehand and uh he said about St. James's and if there's one man can make St James St. James's successful and it's not just blowing smoke up his back side because he's sitting here but it will be him you know and and he can and in in terms of attracting players he'll attract them.
SPEAKER_06Oh wow you know he will attract them because he he takes no finances I've seen him on the work well you know it's all about persuasion and selling it and I just think with a with a good thing to sell I believe the like situation coming in and some of the senior players that have signed have made that a bit easier. You know we Frab Rowan's come in recently didn't realise Frab was so short by the way but he's a fucking good lad you know he's a good centre football guy he's he's a good guy and uh he has leadership qualities and talking and all that and look with a good side there you may end up opposite end of a field facing each other when they mean Swiss cracker and you may be I'll be all Mole.
SPEAKER_00That'd be some crack see skin man he's burning for a while against Newton he doesn't like to talk about those days up there he's actually three or four he was like he was like a man city of the amateur league you know just getting all the big hitters I had to work with the so called smaller players and try and get the best out of them and everything but he let it slip during the week and he brought in a motivator when they played Newton back in the day didn't know us here. So he paid 200 quid he didn't pay 200 quid because you know he's not he wakes up in the middle of night saying I wasn't motivated we actually played we were playing Newton I was his this coach um was over he was working for covert coaching well well recognised coach and got talking to him he says I'll come in and take a session who he's playing this weekend turned out it was him I go jeez man come in and he came up with some I were trying St. Malay's school and he came in and took a session and I had a session I caught well I caught a talk about But anyway, Pit him 200. I went to committing 200 quidties. Come on. Anyway. Playing Newton's definitely win this salary then.
SPEAKER_01Playing tonight's salary beat a 6'1. I hope you kept it as safe. And he chants that money back in the book.
SPEAKER_06The Enton team in that year we were an exceptional team. A game with tapped into players dropping out of Cliffinville at the time, like so big Shawny Adams and Bucko and all, and loads of players need Quinn coming back again. I could go on, there's loads of players in that era that were that were better than amateur league. Yeah. And typically in one of what one thing that I'm proud of is people will drop down for a few months and end up staying for four seasons. Because they'll go, we'll dip down and give it a go and maybe do the end of the season. And then they enjoy it, they see what we're about and they see it. And I listen, uh like I say this in the series and the boys are giving me stick about this, but get a lot of them have maniac lives. Like you look at some of our lads, Sean, you know, some of them might not know how to function. Like some of them are team or fucking maniacs. Like we many are that stands outside watches a rain. He loves the rain, he stands and watches the rainfall. You know, he's actually must have had the best mom of his life because he's a rainbow.
SPEAKER_0041 days in a row.
SPEAKER_05Trying to get team talk started.
SPEAKER_06Trying to get team talk started in serious stuff, and he's saying, Do you enemies ever wonder when you close a fridge there's a light goat? There's a lights down. I'm going, What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03Somebody's boys can't tie their own shoelaces. I don't know. We want to see a group chat that like that since see that's just a special, like it's like I can go like it it's you can't even say if a psychologist was put on that group chat, they lose his mind, he'd just go fuck it.
SPEAKER_06It is um there's there's so many people that that as you all said needs they need something different. You know, do you try to encourage them or do you try to I think everyone needs a stick now? Yeah. There's not too many that you know the card, but there's some of them that are lost causes, they just happen to be good at football. Yeah, you know, and and listen, it's up to me to try to know trying to get the best out of them. And you know, as I say, like you just want to be successful. You've seen that night at the intermediate final, you know, the the the sandoff, and unfortunately we didn't win the game, but um but I mean it shows you what they're about and what they're capable of. And when I was at Crew where we were very close to getting the playoff, we should have won the league that year. Uh blame myself for not winning that and should have won it that year. But crew are the best facilities in the country, yeah. But they they don't have that dra they don't have that community. And and like I I've seen it, you know, we train 78, 67 the kids are on. And you go down there, there's 300 kids in St. James's track. I don't know myself. I don't know where there's 200 kids in St. James's track. But the kids that are coming from different parts of Westbelfast, the rappers and the club is phenomenal. We need to track that and make sure that they're table down, make sure that there's pride in playing for the Swifts. And as I say, I haven't had the best of rap, but you know, the f the the point of pass, but there's a part of me too that tries to channel that because nobody likes coming in the DC to play St. James's Swift. When I managed against them, I just go fucking St. James's. Nobody likes it. You know, nobody wants to come into DC and playoffs. And but we have to build on that too. You have to make things difficult for teams too.
SPEAKER_03As I was saying, and I think St. James here, and see people from West Belfast, they hear it more than people from North Belfast, East Belfast, East Belfast, any part of Belfast. People here in our doorstep hate us more than anyone. See the clubs come from they hate us because it's just a rap bar rap. They're gonna try and be game more, they're gonna they're gonna talk about it and they're gonna, you know, no one's ever gonna give you a hot an easy game. Yeah. Because it's just in change. So that should be enough motivation for anyone to go out and fucking.
SPEAKER_06I'm a tribulate now obviously in the external intermediate, and football side they're not gonna want to come in to DC, you know, at the end of the day. I'm not saying we'll win the game, but I'm just saying it's a hard game. Nobody nobody wants to be a good idea. That type of game is gonna motivate the MT, but they're not gonna want it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there will be and stuff on the city.
SPEAKER_06Obviously, up a career the other week when there was a couple of Wesleys playing too, and it always gives you that extra bit of space. But like I think we're happy with the course we're on, as I say, you just talked about ambition, and my ambition is to is to get them promoted and get them in the higher level and uh see where it takes us because I think there's enough people behind the club driving it and the community backing. You know, you see it yourself, you only have to have a fundraiser or an event, everybody's around they just all come and and and as I say, the home games late rise license and rain or snow, people are still turning out the watches, and uh you know, so I'd love to be successful for them, you know. What about you, Skin? Any ambitions?
SPEAKER_00Thank you, Will Eamon. Any chance of me getting the word in here? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we can say like an interview, I'm sitting here sleeping.
SPEAKER_06You could call it for our air.
SPEAKER_03You want to get the reds pushed on?
Early Management Pressure And Family Drive
SPEAKER_00No, a hundred percent, and that's it's obviously you want to win every game, as you say. And he says, um we've had a really good successful two years, Jim and I, since we've come in. Obviously, the Irish Cup. Um with League Cup winners, we were disappointed last year losing the Irish Cup final. Um but I I think personally, and and whether it's a good thing or bad, I think we've punched up overweight a wee bit in terms of when you look at the other teams and the clubs and the resources they have and the money they're putting in and the full time and all that. But we've never really used that too for an excuse, you know. As you just said there, we we use it for motivation more than anything, to batter ourselves and and and make us successful. So um ambition personally, I think I've I've made it very clear from a start that I want to manage again. You know, and that's that's my ambition and and when that comes or who it may be with, I don't know. Um but I mean I I love the game, it's my livelihood. Um I always want to try and batter myself, I always want to try to make myself the best that I can possibly be at this moment in time. I I pray myself on being the best assistant manager that I can be for for Jim and the club. So so going forward, yeah, I'll I'll be ambitious to obviously in the short term.
SPEAKER_03But what's the difference in roles? Like what at that level between assistant manager that just you you call shots assistant manager gravy, or you just have a discussion and maybe.
SPEAKER_00No, well again, it depends on the on the manager, you know, in terms of his personality and his vision. Jim and I I've only known Jim probably six, seven years now, and the before the before Jim and I left Sligo. I reached out to Jim for advice and one of the worst days of my life. No, not not mean not meaning Jim, but losing losing your job at Sligo, because I was personally uh I I don't think it was it was the hard happen, it wasn't it wasn't right. I agreed a new deal, a new contract, um and then within a week the uh took it off me and somebody lost their job who's probably more experienced in the league, and they ended up going for him, thought I was a better fit. So I reached out to Jim for advice and and then got to know Jim and then he invited me down to the Northern Ireland setups and I went in and took a couple of sessions. Next minute I was academy manager of the the uh the Northern Ireland UFO setup. And then I ended up applying for the under-19s job, under 17s job, and got that, and you know, was really successful in that as well. And then that didn't work out too well. It was it was just the the politics of football. It's like in every sport, you know, sometimes your face doesn't fit. You know, I need to take out a gym and get on with I can't make it better, I can't but and I can eat eat away at you. I did it for about a year or so, but again, Jimmy as well, it's uh it's always in the background and everything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it does, and and that's it.
SPEAKER_00But Jim, Jim at that stage, you know, we formed a really good relationship between us and he trusted me in terms of delivering sessions and managing things and all that. So and his views and and my views are are quite similar in terms of how we want to set our teams up and how we want to play. So he takes a lot of he does take a lot of advice around that and and he will give me a that free reign of going and and and doing it. So I mean I would take probably 90% of sessions around Club and go. Um at the end of the day, Jim picks a team, he's a manager, he's boxed up to him and that's it. Um but in terms of that side of things, it's it's we are he is very, very good in terms of letting you go and do your job.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we better freedom to like too, which you want to do at the end, you know, because you can always get that way better if like again. I wouldn't say eager leg, but it's like I'm in charge. Yeah, we're doing this and go well.
SPEAKER_00And there is managers like that. And I and again, I was probably one of the managers, and that's right. I probably struggled in my early days managing the delegate. Yeah and I that was one of the things that I really couldn't do because I wanted to make sure it was done the way and everything was done right. And and again, it was probably more highlighted at Sligo, because I was managing, I was coaching, I was dealing with directors, I was dealing with supporters' clubs, I was dealing with all that, and and you could just you could pull the boat everywhere, and then you hope folks on one thing. And and the most important thing gets lost, which is which is the team and and and getting results. So it's something that I had to work on myself in terms of delegation, and and now I I feel probably with that experience in the last five years or so. I I feel I'm nearly ready now to try and get it.
SPEAKER_03As an assistant manager and then being the coach and every session, like 90% of the sessions at Clevelandville, to go on as a manager, and then it'll be hard for you to find out trusting someone to do that for you.
SPEAKER_00See, I always said, and again, it's not me begging myself up, but I probably have struggled to have an assistant manager the way I've been assist because I was there obviously with Clivenville and the successful years with Tommy Braslin and Mento, and and again they give me free reins just to go and and do what I you know on the pitches, all the all the sessions. And and again, I I it's like we end up with three, three assistant managers, you know, for three various reasons. And it's one thing, it's it's a really important role. You know, it's you know you're assisting the manager first and foremost, you're helping him, you're guiding him, you're it has to be a big trust there in terms of everything you do, you know, has to be geared towards what's best for the team, and obviously him, so it's a protection thing as well. Um and doing things that other people wouldn't even recognise or see you doing, you know, behind the scenes. So there is a lot of stress around it, but it's uh again, it's I think it's an important role, and and again, Jim and I would we do bounce off each other, we do work well with each other. But going forward, you know, for me it's it's it's you know he'll tell you having a good assistance is hard and fine.
SPEAKER_06It almost surprises me a bit because her egos are absolutely ginormous, particularly Jim McHilton. He's the biggest ego I ever met in my life, and his ego's not too far away. You haven't got one quad yourself, so it sort of surprises me sometimes how it works together because they're two not an ego, typical guys, and there's a bit of a crack. I don't think I'm ego. I don't I definitely do I know him better than anyone, and he's got an ego. Uh right. He's his ego's big, Jim McGilton's ego's ten things big. I don't know he won't see if he comes down to do his podcast, he won't fit his head, won't fit in.
SPEAKER_00Somebody that I haven't got. That's the first I've spoken here. I can't get a word on because of him. But uh This is your life here with him and McCarthy.
St James’s Swifts: Community Engine
SPEAKER_06I think I think people forget sometimes assistant manager is there to somebody to assist the manager. Yeah. Right? At our level, particularly, because there's not big money involved and anything like that. It's not a job, it's not the livelihood. You know, it's not as if you're reporting into somebody and work in a structure. It's it's it's voluntary. So I have to not that I have to, I would always take the guidance. You know, we've got a smashing team at the map, Craig McLean and and Big Frankie, Big Frankenstein, Jim McBannaman. Big Frankie has been unbelievable. What he's happening. He told me not to give any sticks.
SPEAKER_05He told me a story about him and his old job. It's a soap slave, right? It's soap swirl away all level up, right? Yeah. Everyone kicked up things heads are. He says he told me even in the work, I was really making scrap half bowl of scrambled eggs, and he says to me, Well, where'd you get the hair from? She says, Make them in the back whiff. Even though you make scramble eggs, I make a bread. Next time we've been in the work. But you have them still the chair. He's like, What the fuck?
SPEAKER_01I think only that.
SPEAKER_05Exactly because he told them.
SPEAKER_06I'm having a cup. I mean I'm being a cup. Notes for the dog. And the dog walked on a matter TV. It's too wet.
SPEAKER_00He goes, ah, right. Need to lose a bit of weight. It's about two years ago. I was just after lockdown. What is this from? I says, right, I'm doing this walking and fast and stuff. When we're down the hills up, right, no problem, no sweat. Done the 5k out back. He says, Well, I just feel it's not great. Nice cream. Ice cream ice cream master. He says, Do you want an ice cream? Don't the money off the walk? He said, I'm getting the Necker Parker Glory.
SPEAKER_01Necker Parker Glory.
SPEAKER_05We're playing the Lloyd. Turner.
SPEAKER_03We love Megan. I fucking like a ballish every single one of these.
SPEAKER_06You will need a muscle. Because you're damn the lungs and you want you know what I mean? The brains. You were a muscle. So Megan runs down and goes and points at three. I'll kick a ballot to anyone easy except for you, my new thing.
SPEAKER_05I looked at him straight in the eyes. I was shabby.
SPEAKER_06He was a high dunno. We've seen him a couple weeks there, and he were laughing at hell, but he's a great lad. Uh but there was a bit of miscommunication on the lane. So he took a tick. But uh but no, it's something crack, even though you're only uh short time.
SPEAKER_03Lucy used to get me uh the code that's she she told me I I don't I love when you go because his blood pressure was there. She says, I we only could watch the Swifts because uh not to sport not to support the Swifts. Like just like just case he takes on her ticket. So every time he's cracking up, he turns around laughing.
SPEAKER_05What the fuck are you laughing at? And he starts laughing.
SPEAKER_06I think in the Tink Talk ain't getting full fucking Mel Gibbs and Braveheart on, you know what I mean? The fucking painting on and kicking the lad. He looks around and he's fucking killing himself laughing. I go, what the fuck are you laughing at?
SPEAKER_05Fuck me, you gotta take up that seriously drink hex water bottle, looks at me, I'm laughing apart and goes, What are you laughing at? Fuck me. Someone in the group chat No tagger loop, no tagger loop. So I didn't know what's in the group chat. Someone's tagged. Well, first of all. What the fuck's happening? I already seen it in the boss laughing. I knew it wasn't even at the match of crew, but I knew exactly what happened.
SPEAKER_06First of all, I didn't know what a tagger loop was. And secondly, I couldn't remember after my match. So I didn't know what Pike Frankenstein was talking about. You know what I mean? Pike Jim, Pike Jim's.
SPEAKER_03You come off, people come off if you be coming home laughing your ballots off. That's part of it as well. When I say I miss it, that's what I miss. I miss all that fucking.
Ambitions For Promotion And Player Recruitment
SPEAKER_00But you do. We were at we were at uh Rory Hill's grandfather's for null uh on Wednesday, and like that's what we're saying. We sat and had a couple of paints, where's old ones are from Newton and and just the crack and the old banter and stories and everything and you do you miss it? I think that's nearly it's nearly gone. It's nearly gone. It's important that you have good characters still in the game. We're talking about that one.
SPEAKER_06There's a young lad saying for uh St James's and I mentioned his name. But uh everybody's baby was doing about four weeks' time or four weeks' time, and he he he's texting the group chat his missus and then the labour, right? So about four weeks later she's still in labour. The boys are saying she's been in labour longer than fucking Jeremy Corbin. I know it. There's some crayons like no Halo when it w warm up, you're coming off and all you know. Close up no screenshot. Can I you know something else? Uh he didn't take a half. Couldn't believe it. Nobody has my video on him enough. Shut your hands. Goes nuts. But he felt laughing. I'm raging. He'd messed up a video.
SPEAKER_03But uh listen, lads, I'll I'll leave his ticket, so I know you have to go back to work and and sell some bathrooms. I know big game and eight. Sean, big game and eight.
SPEAKER_06Can you cut that out? I'm supposed to be at work, so just it says work exactly. You're promoting, not working.
SPEAKER_03Now, I mean what's the name of the company?
SPEAKER_06Hundred percent. Yeah, that's the name of the company. Uh PTSR.
SPEAKER_03PTS, you know what I mean? This is networking.
SPEAKER_06100%. So anybody sees me.
SPEAKER_03Thanks very much. Thanks for having us on.
SPEAKER_06I know we've had a bit of crack, but it's good to get a good idea. She can see before we go, can I still do more hair? Is there a bit more volume or something than it? A little bit longer.
SPEAKER_03Why? Because uh I I'm going baldy. So I wanna I want to hold on to it for as long as I can. Alright, okay. So the let fuck sick of my hairline starts my neck, fuck second.
SPEAKER_05So we bit of a Bobby Charting on coming forward.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, get a picture of Manack Cream Bun. Go. No, don't make cream buns.
SPEAKER_04I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for many John. Thank you.