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The Public Nuisance Podcast #070 “Give Them a Dead Leg” with Kurt Walker
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Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.
This week we welcome Kurt Walker to the podcast.
We cover amateur boxing trips gone wrong, getting stranded in foreign cities with no phone or money, running from taxi drivers and jumping staircases at full speed, waking up on random boardwalks with no idea where you are, chaotic nights out during fight tournaments, teammates leaving you behind, hotel confusion abroad, and the madness that comes with travelling as young fighters, weight cuts, making impossible kilos and starving through camps, extreme dieting, sweat suits and sauna suffering, amateur versus pro pressure, politics in Irish boxing and fighting for recognition, Belfast boxing culture and how clubs shape fighters, childhood chaos, nicknames that stick for life, throwing things at windows and running from angry neighbours, street games that turn into full chases, fear of dogs and cats, growing up in tight communities, Disneyland disasters and rollercoaster trauma, holiday debates, food routines and obsession with finding the best spots, buffet madness and overloading plates, why boxers eat like animals after weigh-ins, school memories, strict teachers versus laid-back systems, how all of it somehow shapes who you become and much more.
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Welcome And Ring Return
SPEAKER_00Welcome to my new phone show!
SPEAKER_02Good time Welcome to the Public Nations Podcast. Right here in Killing Studios, where you can get all your content. Photo shoots and podcasts, video editing, whatever you need, we've got it right here. What was it like uh what was that, ten months was it?
SPEAKER_03Touching eleven, but maybe I will tell you. Ten months are the rings long, like long, isn't it? It's and then see for then ten months I'd probably train ten times.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I think it's hard getting back.
SPEAKER_02What weight did you weigh in?
SPEAKER_0362. It was meant to be 61, but I asked for an extra pound.
SPEAKER_02Two pound?
SPEAKER_03Two pounds.
SPEAKER_02Um it's heavy, dude. Been out there ring that long like an end that no one.
SPEAKER_03But see the the music now, just pick any song, I don't know, thunderstruck or something. And uh since the music came on, I just walked straight in. The kids were like, I'll wait for the dropy, fuck that'd get me in this right now. Were you nervous? No, a wee bit of sparring? A wee bit, I was just kind of doing four rounds, you know. I can I can four rounds is easy, no like.
SPEAKER_02I know it is, isn't it? I was up actually sparring up in Georgentown. Just go burn, spar, help out. Who's got you up, Polly? Nayam core text me and asked me to go up and spark JP Hill. And that's why I was gonna burn, spar and Emmons, but they were doing like three three minutes thirty second range, fifty and a half minute range. Easy and then um four range. But uh it's cool, like we was up sparring as well, but he's opponent. Who? Who uh? I don't know who he's with, to be honest with we have no idea. Um he must be the only pro in Lisbon says.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Is there in any other boxing like pro boxers from?
Lisburn Boxing And Community Lines
SPEAKER_03I don't know where David Lomer was from, where was he from? Is he not box from Lee Tunday? No. No, I don't know. David Lomer, I think, one sort of. I don't know who he is, I just heard the name. John Rogers, he didn't big say. We're getting a new club built, nearly built, a million pounds. Right beside my house. Under floor heating.
SPEAKER_02No feathers in it.
SPEAKER_03Me? Yeah, all four and five going to the islands this week.
SPEAKER_02Many winners we just have.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, we've got a week or it's very good. Very good, like.
SPEAKER_02What about your sister?
SPEAKER_03She's boxing.
SPEAKER_02So see, um Lesburn Lake, obviously. Like is it gonna encourage kids to box when they're getting a new boxing club built? Because like why is it why isn't that a big why isn't that a part of the club?
SPEAKER_03So we've got to bring it close to each other, the football club and then we have to the bathroom club.
SPEAKER_02Why does it not matter? Like it's hard to explain though, like Belfast has fought on the parson communities and then you have cafe communities. Persian communities have boxing clubs, but they don't wanna like they don't they don't have they don't have much success rate, but the ones that do have are really good and they get really good backing. They actually get really good backing, like that's a good thing. If you look at Fronten, you look at uh Lewis and you look at like even Kay Smith, the background he's getting BBC and all. Uh-huh. Fuck's getting on BBC night, they've got to do it. We've run all sorts. We've in international medicine, we don't even get that opportunity, you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_03But I mean you wonder why, like, they don't do too well in the amateurs either, like I know, because they don't that's what I'm thinking, is it's something they don't want to like they do not want to box for for Ireland or something.
SPEAKER_02But like if you put that aside, like if you look at rugby like Protestants play for Ireland, it's a sex same thing. There's no politics. So it's it's a bit strange, but I think people just they're just shooting themselves in the foot over like something political, do you know what? Stupid.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't even matter no more at all, like, does it?
SPEAKER_02It doesn't matter at one bit. Like it's it's fucking stupid. But I actually seen the other day in Northern Ireland and Ireland playing football, they're both shit and they both got put out. And people are like, right, let's just have the conversation. Let's just have the conversation and just it's every fucking two years or four years put them back, let's just make it one one nation. I'd be happy, Ratley.
SPEAKER_03Right, dog just like we'll be one of the best in the world. I guess they're not gonna be the best in the world football, like Well, who knows?
Buckets Food Fights And School Chaos
SPEAKER_02Both of them. I know they're fucking terrible, both teams like, but just think it's just fucking it at the northern Ironman, like did you not go this time now? I remember trying to get a post goal and bucket. He used it to know that's and uh he sent me, he showed me his video, and there's a whole big crowd roll in the the like uh farm zone. It was a street just in the street. Someone fucked a big bucket. From about a mile away. From about a mile away, like an empty bucket, like a they say like a bucket, maybe had bears on or something. Just low this big black bucket through the air and card standing there in the business.
SPEAKER_01The old heads had the head in the gym, they love that video. It's a cracker.
SPEAKER_03I don't know where they got from anything like see what I was on.
SPEAKER_02See what she like when you're on another pen and there's no like there's no Wi-Fi.
SPEAKER_01I was coming back to the creek. I couldn't stop laughing. And people were probably looking at me on too laughing at the eyes and i starts. Just your big shiver heads on.
SPEAKER_03How did you get that video? Like, what was that? Couldn't even see the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01Didn't even do the one the glass bottle and still be bothered. Fucking love. But see, like it's some of them things, people do love stuff.
SPEAKER_02Uh fucking it's just random, like I remember in school year, like years ago we had like a food fight with it with the upper six. We were like, say four of you. And it was like upper six, she was just on top of your yard and we were all thawing stuff at them, and they were throwing stuff at us. But this was gone for like a week or two. And one day I was just not there, made my own business lad, and next time I just went, boom, I was like, I just felt that thing. And I was like, what the fuck? And I was looking around me and I did not know where I was. I looked and everyone was starting to run all once from ear. I was like, but it took it was like getting a flash down the mouth, you know, like I was like, what the fuck? I turned around and looked, there was an orange on the ground, bustled to pieces.
SPEAKER_01Orange over my uniform. I looked up, all the upper sex were laughing, they're posted.
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Window Pinging And Getting Chased
SPEAKER_03I love them as well. We're still just talking and hit him off the cheek. There was this fall who fucking had an arm like a fucking mechan mechanical arm. You still just wing them from bed by the way. He's standing talking to me, just tell him about the sex kiss. He was there. What the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_02It's a shock. Like it's I was shocked. I was like, I didn't know what happened.
SPEAKER_03Turtle rating all the way.
SPEAKER_02He's never done that.
SPEAKER_01I must have been shit growing up in Lesburn. Lesburn's a turtle. What did you just even do? Fuck the boot. Fuck the boat, burned it.
SPEAKER_03No, streetly. Like, what do you do, Lesburn?
SPEAKER_01Tell me one thing you don't go on.
SPEAKER_03Is there anything you've done in Belfast? What, like, ratting? Did you just rattle? There you go. But uh what else? Fucking penguinies and all the boats.
SPEAKER_01Penguindies.
SPEAKER_03We used to so uh goes in the cars up my street, but as soon as it gets boring after you get the chase. No, I used to get the chase in when everyone else ran, I used to stop. You'll act like a civilian. Just for the bosses say if we're up, Armin. You're chasing the next highlight.
SPEAKER_02Uh see the uh like we one time we see in turf lodge, we cut down a tree before, some woman's tree, like a big massive fucking one of them big hurry trees. We cut it down, retained so pulled over a fence, she had loads of them, pulled over a fence and made a roadblock with it.
SPEAKER_03The whole street.
SPEAKER_02Like a rock we clocked a road off on it. So a car was driving down and I was inside the tree hiding, it was a big hurry tree, you know what I mean? And I was laughing like that hiding, and I seen the lights coming, all my mates were standing the other way laughing, and uh the woman stopped to go out to try and move a train, I jumped out of the train skirt, she fucking chased me like fuck, bolted after me, scooped me, scooped me heading in the garden, grabbed me bass scruff, brought me up to my man, my dad slapped out of me. See now.
SPEAKER_03If you ping someone's winties or something, the fella chase you, you just torture him for the rest of his life. That's it.
SPEAKER_02That's him done. I've got the own house, I've got my own gaff north if anyone has my window.
SPEAKER_01But there's how do you know they added the window jack kid?
SPEAKER_03This fella used to work for Montgomery Federation. We used to call him Montgomery because they didn't run the van. They used to let's go do Montgomery's house.
SPEAKER_02We had we had uh nicknames for everyone to give us tases, and they didn't even know it. They were oblivious to even being named this. There was one who had like there was one fella he had a mustache and his name was Mohawk.
SPEAKER_03There's fucking Mohawk Moha? How you not gonna chase someone who was the fingerman deadlick? I know. Would you be a chiss and crack them with that?
SPEAKER_01What would you do if you caught them?
SPEAKER_03Give him deadlick. There's not worse.
SPEAKER_01Oh fuck.
SPEAKER_03You're fucked. Just fucking knees straight around there to say the leg.
SPEAKER_01What are you gonna do then?
SPEAKER_03Just say this is something. I don't even know that. What would you do? Like it's hard, and then it's only on one job. And you know for a fact you would catch them, like because you're fit. Like most of them you're doing it as a kid, most of them aren't fit, like, but you want them to be giving you a good chase.
The Snowball Raid With Hurling Sticks
SPEAKER_02There was one flash. This is an hour one, right? We found out this this one was later on in life, like when we're a wee bit older, we could probably be a bit too old to be getting chases and on it. We're walking up, there was snowing. We're walking up through like and our at the bottom third floor, and we pined a load of snow up snow and we pinged a load of snowballs at a window. And our man chased us with hurling sticks for fucking ages, right up through third floors in the snow. I was like, what the fuck? Where'd you come from? Again and our name, we we we changed the n we gave him a nickname and one day I was in the school. So this house was a target then. Even though we were like 16 at this stage, we were too old to be getting chases because some of the lads I ran about with for 18, you know what I mean? I was sixteen. Boys were allowed to drive. But they were throwing bricks. But then we started going right with got a chase, so we ran about down there and threw a load of eggs at the window again a couple weeks later. Chased us f for ages, and I mean ages were hurling sticks uh to them. It must have been a felon of son. We were away like fuck. And then I went in the school, I was like I think I was like 15 school, so I was like telling all the mates, follow me once I say yes, we gotta hit him on again last night last year. But the wee lad was in my class and I had no idea, right? He never said nothing. A couple weeks later, bang same again, we all boarded put the wee lad in my class, I was oblivious that this was his house. We got the way up, ronta floors, but then our died down and saying about an hour or two later. We were starting to say my mate's door, but sex or side of just not a laugh. Just completely forgot about it. Next thing you see falls, rock up with her and stuck. Yo, you with a white hat. Call my mate. Don't know. He had a white hat on, but I was wearing a weak hat. He was like, If I let my windows like me, what are you going about? I'm eighteen years of age. He's like, if I'm at my windows, you're not your thing, you're in my son's class. He's like, What? He's like, I didn't go to school, I go to tack. He goes, he was attacked, whereabouts, he was working for us, he goes on contrary in my son's class. So his son, the tallest dad, the one the white hat is the one who's in my class, but I was wearing a white hat, but that day I wasn't wearing a white hat. And I know for a fact that that's why I picked him out. And then when I got back in the school the next day, my mate Shaz says me, that's fucking me all six years. I went, fuck there's literally the churn the hole. The grandcrow just swallowed me hole. I was like, oh fuck. I literally turned on myself. Yeah, it's fucking mad. This is who's the turn? It was me at that minute.
SPEAKER_03I don't think they do it too much no more. I don't even see kids out in the street anymore. Like, I shouldn't hang on TikTok though. I think it was in the West. Did we're doing it on TikTok? We're gonna ping a few Wendy's here and they were running like fuck. You can hear the steps and all the random terminator.
SPEAKER_01Never see the body terminator hang on the back of his car.
SPEAKER_03Straight in with a fucking name.
SPEAKER_02What what would they wonder what kids would have a nickname for you if they had them on, like something different, like I don't live in an estate no more, do you?
SPEAKER_03Like not really like North Lake.
SPEAKER_02Uh where I live's quadnufflick, but it's just like a cul de sac? Uh we have like we drive through, but it's uh it's my we are is like you say the Demnis, right? Oh people where I live. I actually feel sorry for a carbury because there's no one from the pay with no one. That's the same as my street, no. But you fucking three kids who they have no parameter. You can't let them out, like either like two under two on the moat.
SPEAKER_03Three guys. Shattered. I'll be 48, but I'll be eighteen. Take it just chill out. So that long.
Getting Dropped At World Championships
SPEAKER_0233, fella. What are you, 20 now? 31. 31?
unknownFuck.
SPEAKER_03Just turn 31, like.
SPEAKER_02Are you older? You must be older than Coley, and I older.
SPEAKER_03Fuck me. I was older. Oh, you was the older, yeah? Uh-huh. You're getting their tape by. Me? I have no miles in the clock. Plant their miles in the clock. I've never been dropped. That's world championship. When you get out the last fight.
SPEAKER_01Did you get for laughing at me? No, I know.
SPEAKER_02He got knocked out. He got knocked out in the world championships. We were fighting. We went away to Box for Ireland. Kurt was fighting uh fellow from Dominic Republican, but he's big talking. And he came out first round, bang. But we were showing a room. He hit Kurt about Ding. He didn't boil the bigger. He got up. He's never been dropped before ever, so it was like a shock to him. It was a shock to me too, because I thought he was going to fucking buy the box of hitting him. And then he got up and he was like all over the place. But then he he gathered himself sweet and then he boxed sweet the rest of the fight. And I was like, fuck, no, like got a form because we're short room, short of camp. The whole way camp would be all short room the way to the Irish team, Nick. And uh they came back into a room and I knew one of them ones. It was like awkward, you don't even know the shit. Someone knows.
SPEAKER_03You were sitting on your phone to guess, like I was like, what am I gonna say like that?
SPEAKER_02He wrapped the door and I went fucking nervous. I was like, What like because I'm not really sympathetic towards people, I don't like being sympathetic, but like what else are you supposed to say? Uh I opened the door, looking at him, he just busted it off and then I busted it off.
SPEAKER_01He's like, fuck me, lads, you can knock me in code. He was like, I can't even remember it goes back.
SPEAKER_03John's looking at my eyes in the corner putting the eyes.
SPEAKER_02He wanted to put me out, but was it you say and then you said Zark was saying something and uh kids after you can't remember what he changed? Something happening, you're like when I'm afraid when we're gonna warm up or something.
SPEAKER_01He's like, What? The fight is over, he says, when are we gonna warm up with this? Fucking crazy, the fight is over. He thought it was the best thing ever to do. He said to me, when am I going to warm up?
SPEAKER_03Fucking metal. Who's gonna show at me for going back away? I never done it once out that again. Who was just gonna find out? I don't know how fucking arms could have reached that wall. He was well there for me, he just comes up and make left dirt box. Jesus Christ, I hit the dirt pad look.
Hamburg Night Out Gone Wrong
SPEAKER_02That was in Hamburg, wasn't it? That was some trip by. Remember we left you? We went on this is Norvon Rip. We were in uh drink. We went on the rip. There's a place in Hamburg called the Reaper Bomb. It's like a big May long street. It's like it's like I actually think it's the stag capital here. It's like crazy. It's got like a red light district, no, it's just fucking bars and just people blocked like big stags and hands and all. And we uh went on the drink anyway, but I ended up fucking juiced as usual. And uh we got on a taxi. Scottish fellows are who I won him were Sean was it? Sean McGregor, right? We were black in the taxi and fucking driving back to the hotel. But our hotel name was like German. It was fucking his way. And the taxi stopped, and I was like, on the motorway. He was cracking up with German tax driver shouting, What the fuck? He's like, Whoa, he's like, you better pay 200 dollars or 200 euros, 200 euros, get this clean. I was like, and then they were like five paying 200 euros for it. Look at them and they were like, you have to pay it out. So when this taxi stops, I think it's like fuck. We didn't know where we were. Because we were all black. Taxi stopped, bang, door open, way like fuck, on the mill motorway. Just bolted right across the motorway. And they like this we boardwalk.
SPEAKER_03So we were running like a hundred miles.
SPEAKER_02Way like fuck, had to run, drop down on this big boardwalk by the seafront. Don't know where I was, don't know anything. Way like fuck, remember heading for taxi manager.
SPEAKER_03There was a fucking flight of stairs. I had to jump down. You didn't see the flight of stairs. But they were fucking massive. So we all jumped, we all landed, then we're all land. I thought my two ankles are broke. Everyone was lying for 20, like 10 minutes. Ah, and then fucking me and the skeleton must have got up. They got up and just left you.
SPEAKER_02I was lying, there was sick. Oh my god, white rough teacher. I was lying on the boardwalk like that. I woke up the next morning, broad daylight, and I heard signals. I was like, what the fuck? No phone box. I was like, fuck my foot, my phone, my wallet, everything was still in my pocket, because there's loads of homeless over and loads of. I was like, fuck. But where we were was quiet. I was like right along a boardwalk of like the seafront. I don't know where it was. And I was like, what the fuck? So I was like walking about looking for him, looking for Leigh McGregor. I was like, gone, where the f where is everyone? And I my phone was there. I had no watch, I had no money.
SPEAKER_03You went into the hotel and charge your phone, didn't you?
SPEAKER_02I was in the hotel. I walked, I was walking along, flagged the taxi and seen all the stuck in my t-shirt and just drove off. And I was like, shit, how am I getting back? Did not know the name of your hotel. I had no idea what the hotel was called. So I went into the hotel, I started to charge my phone, had no charger for my phone. I was like, can you ring me a taxi? She was like, What's your hotel called? I was like, I don't know. She was like, What do you mean you don't know? I was like a t I was like I forget it. It was a German name. I was like, I don't know. She was like, Oh, boxing, and she was trying to and I was like, Googled, aye, but World's Hammondship boxing hotel. And she could not get it. And I was like, What the fuck? So she says, No hotel or something. I was like, Yes, no hotel. So the taxi came, got me in it, and drove me to this hotel, which wasn't it. I was like, mate, this isn't it. So I started panicking. I was like, yeah, I'm not getting back. So he was like, Oh, and he cacking on. I was like, Oh Jesus, how am I getting back to this hotel? It was like twelve o'clock now, it was about eleven o'clock in the morning there at this stage. I've been out from fucking the night before. I was like, it was only a search warranty for me. Next thing I was going, fucking and he's like, oh, he's trying to figure out. And he goes, Central station, I ran. Yes. The train station. If I get to the train station, I know how to get home from her. And he got me the train station, fucking for con money quick enough. Bottled down, shake all of me, still boat it straight down into the hotel and they're in where he was.
SPEAKER_01What the fuck? He goes. What do you mean? He goes, where the fuck do you go?
SPEAKER_02Fell asleep the boardwalk, fell asleep all night, right? Maybe we just left you. And he's like, oh my god. He just left me now. I don't even know how I came about that we left you.
SPEAKER_03Because it was just random. Like me and him mustn't have even been thinking about walking back to our job. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02I was just lying there going, fuck. See, and I woke up. I did not know where we were. Like, I had no. I was one of them once it was like the hangover.
SPEAKER_03See that then flight of stairs. Like, I don't know how someone didn't break an angle. Like, because you're running so fast it was too late to stop. I just jumped. So we just had to go with it. For ages. Oh fuck. I think he actually got me up and he was like, come on, let's go, let's go. Left me there. She probably fell asleep.
SPEAKER_02That's what probably why we I did fall asleep when I just he's probably just left me. But I had a juice good pack. I actually never figured that out.
SPEAKER_03Well I remember we got in trouble for that, didn't we? Because the people said we were fighting on the room. Bernard says we were fighting. Did Jordan sell it? George said it. We weren't even fighting.
SPEAKER_02What the fuck was that about? I had I was taking the raffle and I was like, Don't tell me you were drinking, I'll just take a raffle, because I was going pro that was when the Cuban boxed ahead of me and I was just making mind up. I was like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_03Did he brother said that hanging in? He's like, we're gonna cut your funding. And he was like, What the fuck the phone?
SPEAKER_02Bernard comes in and goes, Right, lads, I'm gonna cut your funding. I went, What funding? He was shouting at me. He said, We're gonna give you some food. You went next year. I'm going pro shale later. You went back to the bar, yeah. I went back to the bar, you wouldn't go here. You have no balls. I was fucked. I went my own. Oh no way, that'll make that for a cure. No way. And then Sean Lazarini and all they walk by me, couldn't believe it. They were like, I'm having the paint.
SPEAKER_03I could do that now, like, but back then I couldn't do that.
SPEAKER_02He freaked out.
SPEAKER_03Nah, there's a curb at that. I don't want to. But I was just sitting there, I didn't say nothing. The whole time he was saying something, it was you going back at him? I was just sitting there. He said nothing.
Team Drinking Culture And Missing Teammates
SPEAKER_02You sat instead. I was arguing back, but he was like the fucking character of the hair performance. He was sounding, wasn't he? And then in the end, he came over to me and he put his hand around me. And the air report is like, he always called me skinny. He was like, Ray Skinny, yeah. Going pro I. You know, he's thinking he says, I'm sorry, I'm only joking. Look, listen, I've settled down a bit. I've just I'm trying to change the culture.
SPEAKER_03Because he does do it in the Europeans and I went missing.
SPEAKER_02So we brought a Serbian. It was just about the answers, that was it that's right. No, that was a different trip. That was earlier on the year. We lost a Serbian. I told us in the podcast. Did I sit? When we were walking back from Wagner in Amsterdam, you were telling me it through the park.
SPEAKER_03We just landed in our room and opened the door. Where's our friend? Where's our friend? Some Serbian.
SPEAKER_02Some Serbian. 52 kilo boxes. Taking them home for fucking until four o'clock next day. It was later than that. We the cops know we're getting involved. They were on the edge. But it was laughing. I was going, what the fuck? And you could smell a goggle all over our room. But like when you look back, you go, fuck me.
SPEAKER_03Like I was doing uh Pat was on the team. And he was the last person with him, but he never drank. Oh wow. He was freaking out because he didn't know if he'd done something to him.
SPEAKER_02He pat moments.
SPEAKER_01He was freaking out.
SPEAKER_03I don't know where he went. I don't know what happened.
SPEAKER_02Still there's day going. He was he stayed around the drink. Because he came back bluter. I remember many you're going to show. Oh he did, he stayed on the drink, uh. We're laughing. There's your mama. Or something. Oh Jesus. Talk about being on our but it's mad because every country does it at the end, and then we were like the English ones and overloaded.
SPEAKER_03They tried to change the system kind of like the burner's just trying to change the culture.
SPEAKER_02I know you when you look back. But we were we were brought in that culture. I think it's probably different now, like it is different now. But like uh the time we like for me, we we were looking up the like do you know what I mean? You've Patty Bonner and McCollin and even William McLaughlin though at one stage when I was coming in or like all them boys, Ken Egan, they were all boosebags, Eric Donovan, they all went on the drink.
SPEAKER_03You come into that environment, like you look that's what you see and what you do in this. Like we see people like Patty Warren sitting there fucking on the sweatsuit, you're like, if he does it and he wins his mills, I can do it.
SPEAKER_02I know, 100%. That's it. You you when you see something's working for someone else, you've always gonna work for you.
SPEAKER_03Kelly told me before they were going to what do they call it? Felix Stam or something.
SPEAKER_02Oh Felix Stam and uh yeah, yeah. Check with Hawk or something, and a lot of silver in that.
SPEAKER_03Patty was Patty was showing around with him the night before your fly out, and he came in that room about one o'clock in the morning, he stuck the sweatsuit on and was in bed. And he's all angry. I wasn't rolling about rolling out. He says you're done for about an hour until he gets up, leaves, never seen him with extent the airport, just drove home.
SPEAKER_01Seriously.
SPEAKER_03Uh I was in Dublin. Dublin, just tossing turn was single sweatsuit, and Potty must have said, Fuck it.
Brutal Weight Cuts And Funding Pressure
SPEAKER_02But that's why Potty's like he he was talking about before he's trying to try to see the IBA for wit, for right? But it was he done himself because I remember one time he done like a taxa scan, and Sean Mulligan was like, You can't physically make 49 kilos. You'll need to go be zero percent body fat. And he said, I'm so fucked. And he done. And he fought he fought in the WSP at how you qualify for Linux. So he does want extremes, but then you see like see before, just before you come on the scene, like 2013 at you, yeah. Mick cutting serious weight to make 52 kilos for potty, making 49 kilos, cutting serious weight. Ray Molad used to cut serious weight to make 64 and John's own having used to cut serious weight to make fifty-six. And then it was me, I was sixty, and I was making it easy. And he used to hate me. I used to hate I used to hate people made it easy. What the fu and I was still starving. Fuck, that's why Patty wouldn't share a room with like uh he always shared with Con Shaehan. Because Con Sheen didn't make weight and didn't have to make weight. So he didn't ask Patty about his weight, didn't ask anything like that. Psychologically, it's fucking heavy. Like, what's the worst weight cut you've ever had? Is it as a protoract?
SPEAKER_03When I used to go to nah when I used to do the amateurs like it in the multinations, I was terrible.
SPEAKER_02Like you weren't praying for it.
SPEAKER_03You weren't. But then I didn't listen to nutritionists either. I know I thought it was. But see, uh, I used to go and knock because I don't lose much when I train, like, so I'd have to train 12, 2, 4, 6. And then 'cause I'd lose them 0.410. But then I used to go like say it was John or any other coaches, one o'clock and wonder knock their door. Well, that's good. No way. Go back at three o'clock, go back at five. But then the majors I never done that. You never done that, I like you've never done that anything. No majors, only multinations. Whenever you left, I would done chemistry cup always. I never went to any like like I went a couple of multinations, but I didn't know.
SPEAKER_02I never wanted them. I never they're hard.
SPEAKER_03They're probably hard, like. And you don't really like trainers hard. I I think with the ones that start a year after Christmas, no, like I can never do that.
SPEAKER_02I got one, I'd done one in March after a Felix Town. I got a silver in it. Um have four fights in four days. Uh-huh. Four Hungary in the final. And uh lost fucking 1310 or something, but Mekinaugh got paid by a Mongolia, Patty got paid by a Kazakhstan. And I And we're going like, fuck me. They boys weren't even carded, they lost. I end up getting the funding that year, but Patty was like, it's only so well. He was guaranteed because he's literally managed to be true. But it's a matter of pressure puts you under the hang. Like see, I got to do it. Amateur boxing is well hard on probability. But seeing your own the top money or whatever, it's enjoyable. Oh, I can enjoy it. Yeah, it's it's freedom. But they put that pressure on you, and then there's like 100%.
SPEAKER_03They used to do two, that'd be two silvers. That's hard, like anyone to win two silvers.
SPEAKER_02But it's uh they change they always used to change bronze. Change the tra the criteria. Bronze, silver used to be bronze.
SPEAKER_03Everyone was winning bronze and then they're fucking deaths. You can't punish them for being good, like. I know it's the country's goodle. Our main sports boxing.
SPEAKER_02But they punished it, they took it up to silverly. And mate, like other sports, save another sport, like I say if you're on a flat's and you got a bronze medal, the folks are gonna be praised for you in your own town, like boxing's just made it to make it look like even in the come-offs. Remember in the come-offs? They fucking were make like we were like they were making they were like can you remember the open ceremony on shoulders and all just get down, get down. I was on your shoulders, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_03No, you weren't. You were saved on something else. I was on something else.
SPEAKER_02I was on Yeah, his shoulders. Some big lad, probably. Oh, I was definitely on someone's shoulders and your mind. I was like, get the fuck. But they didn't know how to handle boxers because we don't care, and I mean, but we I was gone and then whenever I got through the village in the cold coast, they were like slaughtering them. And I had a meeting with him, and I was like, when I came out that I was innocent, I was like, You fucking losers. And John was like, I was like, nah, I mean you're fucking you threw me under the bus, not one is defending me, not even one is a part from John Damien. And uh big D, no big D, does the sports answer? You saw through me under the bus, no way because you thought I was guilty and I knew it wasn't. And they were slapping eyes like you sir and then your man from he was from Falls Road, or he's from Brighton Road, sorry, he's St. John's man, like and I was like, You fucking wrote in the papers, you done a statement in the papers saying I was acting in a sheepish behaviour and uh showing off and me, who who who the fuck do you think you are? You think see anything? He's like, Oh apologies, me I went just to uh uh public apology live with BB saying I had to do it, like they've done it, dard on it, but fucking still like the fucking.
SPEAKER_03Remember they came into the room with me because I was still on the cut testing. Where is he? Where is he where is he? I don't fucking know because we were we I didn't know what happened.
Best Camps And Worst Trips Abroad
SPEAKER_02We stayed in the same room in the cold coast and they were cats that were torturing him trying to find out where I was. I wouldn't tell them where I was because we were trying to send me home on a flight, but I was staying on for a holiday. We were staying on for an extra ten days. I told us the other day on that or podcast. People had the uh remember we were going out to a bar and then we had to get escorted by the cops. In the bar the cops had the escort because they couldn't get us off the system. The fucking kid anywhere because you had the X on your passport. Uh and then the we had to go and get the cops and servers parties to pray us on the bars all the time because they couldn't get off the system for two weeks. Fucking niggas. But it was good, good crack like when you look back at it. Uh sometimes we had like over the years, like that was straight one was class, I thought. What was your best ever trip?
SPEAKER_03I think Australia probably five weeks out there, it was class, like staying there for ten days, no, and just all night like yeah, five weeks we were four, like. I thought the training camp no was good, no. Fucking sun shining, six o'clock morning, you're up. I know. It was lovely, like. My food was good. Uh up in the training camp. And then and the countries were spawning on great, so you're bothering them. And you're looking full of confidence. I know, that's it. Still competing.
SPEAKER_02Here uh where's the worst country you've been in? Where do you reckon's the worst?
SPEAKER_03Probably Russia when I was a kid. Russia. When you're a kid, it's fucking like if I've been to Russia, that 10, 20, 19 word challenge was brilliant. But see when you're Russia as a kid and you're in these fucking huts when all mate, that is terrible. Like treated differently, like and you're getting like the food and all geez. How many years ago would that be? Like 200 what 10 or I don't even know. I don't know what is it? 20 years ago, like or no, 15. 16? 15. It's 15 years ago in Russia and the fucking in the shithole, like dogs run about everywhere in groups, like fucking the gangs. There's like six of them all run about together when you go to the shop. Dog gangs, fucking mad me. Gang wars, like you're all just running about and then they're all looking fucking.
SPEAKER_02That's what it was growing up. No, like when you were a kid, remember dogs used to just be stray, running around the streets. Like, obviously, people owned them, but you don't see Arab anymore. Like you would never see it.
SPEAKER_03Nah. You have to put them out of them.
SPEAKER_02Like, you're not allowed to let your dog, eh? Remember years ago, like dogs used we had dogs, dogs were our mates. We had a mate, we had a dog called Arnie Brannigan. He ran about Russ. And another dog called Lappy Lugs, and then another dog called Nipper. We all had all these dogs that used to just roam about the streets, but it ran about us. It was always with us, you know what I mean? And now he would never get that.
SPEAKER_03I got a bad dog you're doing in there, so I've never liked them, Nick. What kind of dog pictures? Don't even know what it was like. Just fucking chase me in and then jump into a fence. But I jumped into some kind's garden, and obviously I thought it couldn't see me. What was it playing? I'm like down here for ages someone had to go get my ma or something. My man to come get me. Couldn't help that. Or the pets in the leg. I think it bit me. I think it I don't think it I think because I was running it was playing. And I thought it bit me like. Then ever since then, you're like, Jesus Christ. Maybe we laugh damn for a dog, Car.
Dogs Cats And Irrational Fears
SPEAKER_02I love dogs, like, but they're just you may as well just have an orchid leg. May as well just have you may as well have a four for no leg. No way, lad. No pets in my house. Oh, nah, I'm the same. But my dad always had dogs and animals. We had furrets and animals and pigeons in my dad raised pigeons for years. And uh we always had animals, so I I don't mind animals, I just hate cats. I'm afraid of cats. Like I wouldn't touch a cat.
SPEAKER_03I don't like cats either, but it's f it's like uh they're like the devil, damn you them aren't they?
SPEAKER_02They're always like I don't know how to explain. People with cats are like lonely. I don't like cats either. I think people who own cats, they're a bit they're not the false. Don't care. Do you have a cat? I told you the false number. You spoke an 90p short of a parent. I don't know, I just feel it like what did they offer in life?
SPEAKER_03I know it's uh, it's Julie's like I got Julie a cop when she was 18.
SPEAKER_01It's the worst practice that anyone's ever bought anyone ever. Betty Julie was like, oh fuck, what have I done?
SPEAKER_03Uh she like in the wag I got her a cat and then it just came with us, but like it literally stays upstairs because we have a German shepherd that just roams downstairs. Oh like I never see the cat.
SPEAKER_02What did they do, but that's what I mean? They're just oxygen thieves. Yeah, yeah. They're just coming down eating food. You have to clean it up. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01No, like I have a cat, but I'm not a fan of cats.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, I'm actually hard skirt of cats. Like I like I say, a rat, I would left a rat. I kicked a rat, and parsley seen a rat, I'd run over and kick it. I am not afraid of rats, one bit. Not even the slightest bit of like not afraid of rats. See if I seen a cat, I'm away like a cat. I'm away like two men away, lad. I remember telling Marty why I had a cat in this house, and I was going, Marty, don't go. He was laughing. And he was going, Monsieur, and he was going, Marty, don't please lad. And his sisters thought I was joking. I was like, I'm shim serious, get that cat out. And I was proper back into a corner. And he's like, it's and I was like, he was laughing his head off. I was like, you are a b a cruel bastard. Because when you have a fear or something, you're not going to be able to do it in my head. There used to be a black cat at the bottom of my street, right? You just sit on the window, like not the windowsill, on like the wall, like the the pillar of the wall. And every time I was running out, every night when I was running bat, I would notice it as I was running back and go black and just jump out of my skin every time.
SPEAKER_03You knew it was our name.
SPEAKER_02You knew it was every night. So then what happened was I used to start going the long way. Uh-huh. Just devoted. And it didn't even do nothing on me. But it was just a fear of it one day like no look. What would you even call a cat? What do you call a cat? Why? What what's when they call it they were called by its name? Nala.
SPEAKER_03Never.
unknownNever.
SPEAKER_02See? Nala.
SPEAKER_01Meow.
unknownMeow.
SPEAKER_02I know how no high mut no hype like body fear down the cats. I was in hip my bed when I was about twelve or thirteen, say. And I heard these cats making loud noises at the bottom of my street, like they were raining or something. Squealing at the bottom of my mouth street. I started freaking out. I was like, what the what's going on down there? Squealing. I looked out toward the bottom of my mouth street under a car. I don't know what they were doing. But the the fucking the noise of the cat. Me, I'm bothered to scroll on the land.
SPEAKER_03There was one night in our old street, there was a cat that bullied my cab, and I heard them screaming bullying.
SPEAKER_02I can't understand. I know I go to people. We were in Creek. And no, like he's big, massive resorts, always have like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of that. And I'm going, Where's he where's he get the balls of this? He's just like and with a cat scrap trying to scrap him, and he's like, look at me, but he's laughing. I think what's anything funny was me. I'd be like, I just run down the water head first. He's like, where are you getting the confidence of this?
SPEAKER_03Nah, 100%.
SPEAKER_02Cats are just uh I don't know, uh they're not for me. Nah, they're not for me a lot either. People I just like I remember having no like when you're younger, having these like five rules for a girl, no, like when you're going to meet a girl, like she if she has a cat.
SPEAKER_03You told me that before, uh cat or smoke. You told me that the cat.
SPEAKER_02So she went mad at a fucking ten out of ten when I was a kid. She had a cat had a cat that's dropped. Mask in there in your bird's house and a big cat coming up. That would have been the end of it for me.
SPEAKER_03It was her mass like. But still never even looked at it, like.
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SPEAKER_02What's the plans for Easter?
SPEAKER_03Don't know, I might go down uh I don't even know that. What is it? Easter Sunday, but you go Easter Monday, Tuesday. We usually just go to your parade, go for dinner and all here. But it's not gonna be flat out on Easter Monday, like. I know, it'll be busy all the time.
SPEAKER_02It's busy the whole Easter week, like, but it's a good spot like that. I went there last year. No, it's good, isn't it? It's called you stay down now. Do you stay at Pillow? I don't know, there's one called there's a place that does food down there, I forget what it's called. It's a restaurant we went to after. It was unbelievable, but it's also a hotel right beside it.
SPEAKER_03But it's like and this one's right beside it. Well, not right beside it, but it's like it has a kid's colour.
SPEAKER_02This is like five minutes away, like five minute drive, but it's uh the food was top natural.
SPEAKER_03Ah, it's good. But then the last time I went, obviously, like it's mad, I'm 31 now. You'd know when they're going to ride so. You can't just go on them yourself, like I know. You're going on the kitty rides, but then I'm talking about the big mass ones, you're looking at them like fancy, I want to go on that, like.
SPEAKER_02We'd done it in Disneyland. We went to Disneyland and there was times I had to go on rotor cruises.
SPEAKER_03Flash pass. Do you get the fast pass?
SPEAKER_02Just go up and say if you have a disability, you get to be disability printed. Go up a limp.
SPEAKER_03You get it anyway, you're alright. She wants to be here as well. Like, it's not packed, like thousands of people are in Disneyland.
SPEAKER_02Get one we thing, get a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Maybe just that one even in the crowds and all, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02But it's it's it is it's it's when you have to queue it's very long, like, but it's class experience for kids. But if I was to give anyone revise on going to Disneyland, I would say wait there a wee bit older, wait till I've been five or six. Like our carbon went, he's been twice now. The first time he went, too small. Too small. And uh but the only benefit was we got it for free, no kids travelled for free. It was that was good.
SPEAKER_03That's all finished.
SPEAKER_02Nah, he's six, five. He's five now. He brought him last year, but and he loved it. And he he you get on like big roller coasters like that, Hunter House. One called not the Hunter House, it's called um Hotel, something. Hotel Taratar. You get on that and you want to see it, it's scared about me. My whole nerve my stomach is hole. It goes right up and down up, and it's like it's like it's inside it, inside this lift, you're sitting on a chair with a seatbelt and it's like goes up and down, up and down, but it's like a projector, and there's like ghosts and all coming out, but then it goes up and drops, you know, like it thrust off your stomach goes up. But like people were crying though. There was a woman behind me crying. It went right up. It goes up to the very top and it opens up and you can see the whole of Disneyland Park because you're like a flash. So it must take a photo in. And I'll cover it. I got the photos just sitting like that. Probably in her 40s. And he just said, there's a really small hair. I do not know why he was loud on that.
SPEAKER_03No height, no. There was a height restriction, but he made it.
SPEAKER_02I think it was 105 centimetres, but I was like, hi, is he out on it? It was scurry like as an as an adult, as a grown man, I'm telling you now it was scurry for like for even for me or for girl. And he was just sitting there all bus. Maybe he was just too.
SPEAKER_03I'd rather go something somewhere like sunny, like no sunny holiday. I had the peplin on now, like I got two of them, they're over two, like they're going to be telling people.
SPEAKER_01You go in your room.
SPEAKER_02Fucking fucking paying an extra fucking fifteen hundred quid. And over they don't get the benefit of it. Even if you go to an inclusive, like now we always I do it as well. We only have the one, which is sweet, obviously with Carber, we bring him away, we do an inclusive because it suits him. But you're paying him right for him to go on inclusive. It's not like he's gonna be grandpa's over called Madison.
SPEAKER_03Another two years?
Holiday Food Hunting And Wing Talk
SPEAKER_02Just kill him to sleep? But uh it can't be a near sunny holiday. Nah. But it's uh do you do you like the in resorts? I like doing stuff on it. Like, do you like just having a holiday where you're in the hotel but you're not conclusive now?
SPEAKER_03No, I do enclusive, but I go out for dinner every night.
SPEAKER_02Like what's the point?
SPEAKER_03Because I want to try the places like I like getting lunch and breakfast and the drinks, but then I like going out for dinner. And then I go on the trip advisor and just pick it out every single day.
SPEAKER_02No TikTok now's like Google.
SPEAKER_03Restaurants? Restaurants, anything to do, so you might want to do something like that. People watch food, like Mick would watch food and things don't make them wait. But I can't do that. I used to do that. Flat out. And that's without me even checking no food, like it's as if you fucking knows what you know.
SPEAKER_02I uh I used to do that when I lived in Glasgow, like like it was proper, like I was just scrolling and taking notes of like restaurants and places and had these big lists of places and setting on do a food blog and all that shit. I'd done a food blog after the Gwen feed fucking last other week. It was bust I was like, I won't go any.
SPEAKER_03I had the chess, yeah. One bad review comes up and fuck'cause you don't even want to go. One bad review, like stuff like that. You see on TikTok now, everywhere looks nice, like you know. That's the problem. That's exactly it, but everyone's leveling up. But I've got real into wings now. Just randomly. The wings are setting. I've never been to wings as I'm warrior missing out, fell.
SPEAKER_02I'm telling you now.
SPEAKER_03I like tenders more than the wings like.
SPEAKER_02Well see, they're tenders. They're biggins. They are big ones. What are they like? Massive on real. In the in Dublin, in the i in the national stadium. You used to be able to pick your own food, remember? Uh make your own way wrap, meat way big at you to make your own bagat, right? And get soup every day for lunch. That's right, uh. He used to get his sandwich, make it throw loads of coleslaw and all, and we love the coleslaw. Fuck loads of coleslaw on the sandwich, so like you can get like it's just a full like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to throw like a turkey in the other hand that cheese, loads of cheese, coleslaw and all was disgusting, right? Go and get his shirt. Big bandy head sitting at the tail like dipping it in like fuck coleslaw falling in there.
SPEAKER_01And the cheese was stringy as that because the soup was warm now.
SPEAKER_03I still do that. I was good as Christmas when Castle 12 falls.
SPEAKER_01Stop it, later. He's the cool fuck up. Stop it, later.
SPEAKER_03Should you do that for chat?
SPEAKER_01I don't think it's like a wait on wait on my deck on drop.
SPEAKER_03I forgot about that.
SPEAKER_02But then we'll move to Eric.
SPEAKER_03I used to go down and used to go down the stars.
SPEAKER_01Uh, imposter. Used to go and get the tens of coke.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I used to get all the coke. I thought all the way, that's because of the nutrition. I'll start coming in. So you're gonna never get tens of coke. Tens of coke. And tens of coke, and I choose your mom. Loads song.
Parenting Runs And Irish Language School
SPEAKER_03Actually put me in the mood for an old soup and a sandwich, and I thought. We'll get one, brother. All right, well. What time have you got these kids at? Uh someone else is getting our own way home. Half day of it, I know. Oh fuck, man.
SPEAKER_02Is your kids learn? He's in the lab, but he's not on the school now. He's got him off a day. What's the point? He starts school at nine o'clock. You have to pick him up at a lab. So by the time you get there and get back, oh he goes to Irish. But I mean he speaks Irish, oh, he knows all, but everything. It's good to have, like, it's good to have. I think uh I don't don't know for sure because I've never been in an English speaking school, but I think you're treated better than Irish school by teachers with more respect because it's like Irish like Irish teachers are very young, and they they treat you like you you call people by the first name, you call your teacher, but like if you're my teacher I call you Kurt. But my first my teachers were all called by the first name. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03So like what was your own called?
SPEAKER_02My my school was called class the first name.
SPEAKER_03We beat them and gillick.
SPEAKER_02Were we on the bench? We um I'm not sure it doesn't matter. Like we were never really accurate to gillick. Because there's only a certain you think of the meta like the percentage of people who went to Irish schools, they're not all like Gilli players. I know, but um one one year we won the ultra colleges, uh in third year, and our fifth year team won the ulcer colleges. And uh made a big fuss in all of it, like in my age group we got like the Sammy and Corpus or something to beat us, hammers. But uh we weren't we weren't great like um in my age group. You weren't two years younger than me. Uh in screen.
SPEAKER_03What year were you born in ninety three? Ninety two. Ninety two?
SPEAKER_02I bet you bought a nine.
SPEAKER_03Uh I've probably been my year we're ninety four.
SPEAKER_02Well what what month were you born? March? Oh I bet you would be like two years longer, huh? Uh two years younger than me and screen. Um but you were one of the younger ones in your year. Uhhuh. Oh, that's right. Um, so I've got to be super sound with you. Good man for coming then, Kurt. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER_03No problem. Pleasure.