The Public Nuisance Podcast #072 “Pure Gents” with Sean Hegarty

Welcome to a new episode of The Public Nuisance Podcast with me, Sean McComb.

This week we welcome Sean Hegarty to the podcast.

We cover growing up sharing rooms, VHS tapes and the “good old days”, how life has changed for kids today and whether too much access has killed appreciation, juggling kids, work and trying to still chase your own goals, modern parenting and how different things feel now, getting into comedy, running gigs and the pressure behind the scenes, how social media has changed live audiences and attention spans, boxing, mindset and what it actually feels like stepping into the ring, adrenaline, fear and why nothing can prepare you for that first bell, training, discipline and staying ready for opportunities that can come overnight, chasing success and never feeling satisfied, always looking for the next thing and learning to step back and recognise progress, the “pure gent” movement, where it came from and using your platform for something bigger, conversations around women’s safety, male responsibility and speaking up, childhood vs modern life, technology, gaming and constant stimulation, nostalgia, music, films and how different growing up used to be, comedy boxing events, creating content to sell fights, egos, rivalries and knowing when things go too far, football, money in sport, loyalty and how the game has changed, fame, money and lifestyle, why more doesn’t always mean better, staying grounded, relationships and what actually matters long-term, and much more.

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Transcript

Welcome To The Studio

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Welcome to public news Welcome to the Public Nations Podcast. Right here in Killing Studios where you can get all your content. Photo shoots and podcasts, video editing, whatever you need, we've got it right here. It's it's so hard to get everyone at the same time free, I don't think with so much going on.

SPEAKER_06 0:24

And you think we're comedians and all too, do you like we'd have all day, every day free, but now everybody has kids and everyone has podcasts and everyone's doing their own shit. Like it's just it's impossible.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

Gone are the days you just done stand-up, yeah. Yeah, you just wrote a few jokes half an hour before you went out now. Everybody has that fucking commitments now, like you know even before everyone everyone got the one chill fucking and nice. It's enough in it. It's enough like seen I as well everything back the corner. I know it's like fucking.

SPEAKER_07 0:54

And I even got the snip as well after three. I'm still in level five. Yeah.

Growing Up Busy With Kids

SPEAKER_02 1:01

But yeah, it's fucking um it's crazy. Like, cause no no right fine as well. See, back in the day, like women would just stay at home work. Yeah. Now women or not work, like stay at home and just be a parent, full-time parent. Like and it still happens, but see now like it's women are working as like more than men. Like my like I like don't know about you, but it's like Dervla that works two jobs and she's flat to the match and she trains every day. I don't know how to get the fucking energy to do it, but the only is the same. Yeah, the only that's why I'm saying too because she's like she's here or everywhere, and like I feel like I'm a stay-at-home dad. You probably feel the same. Yeah, there's only one, but I've only got one kid, so I'm like, fucking hard to do it with five.

SPEAKER_06 1:44

Yeah, it's hard, but then two's company as well. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and it's like we have to always try and do stuff with them or take them somewhere so kids.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

We had Dorother's cousins' kids, they were where they gotta go and we were like, we'll take your kids down. Don't they only done the day spot? Like for the did they didn't stay overnight. They stayed down for the day last week, and we said, Bring your kids. She's three kids, one wee boy, we feeling he's only young, like he's only two or something. And then if an older girl, Laura, and then one the same age as my son, she's like five, brought the three of them down our house, bringing it fucking chaos. Yeah. I was like, what are you like? I know. I was like, I know, and then I take them around to the park, going mad in the park, and then they're all fighting like fuck reach on back. I wanted they always have those kids, that was enough for me to go over it.

SPEAKER_06 2:36

I know my mum has fourteen brothers and sisters, and my dad has sixteen. Fucking hell. And uh but then and my son was like, that's unbelievable. See, we were talking the other day, we buried my uncle there on Monday, and um my son was like asking about all like my mum's side of the family, and I said to him, like, I was like, Oh, I do fucking 14 of them, do you know? I was like, But back in the day, like when your granny just had kids and nothing else, do you know? She just churned out kids. And then the older ones would raise the younger ones because she was too busy being pregnant, they're breastfeeding or just bringing more kids into the world, like the way it's changed now, like but then now just the the reason people only have one or two kids now is because of childcare and both parents work. Exactly. And both parents work because you need to fucking pay for childcare.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

No, right. I was thinking like we we we fucking we're sterless private now, so we're having our second. Oh shit. And she's uh she's uh having a wee girl, so what's it now? Boy and a girl, she's happy, I'm happy.

SPEAKER_06 3:31

Yeah, yeah. Um That's a way of boy and a girl too.

Big Families Then Childcare Now

SPEAKER_02 3:34

And like she obviously as I'm saying, she works two jobs. I work fucking doing this and working in the gym and still boxing and whatever else, uh just pulp from pull out the post. But we're not we're getting an icon conversion now, but we've got a three bedroom somewhere at Hatch House, and we're like there's a sp there's a room there, but we use that for like wardrobe now, and it's like now if they fucking throw another lot of money and uh getting an icon version whereas when we were kids, you were just fucking the same room. Yeah, because five of us, and we were just three in like double bump beds or whatever it was.

SPEAKER_06 4:06

For five years we lived like me and my two brothers as teenagers in one bedroom, the three of us, and we killed each other. Like, we killed each other. My brother was getting up for tech every morning and he was setting his alarm like an hour and a half before we had to get up. And it was Joe back in the day when they had like CD player, like you had five CDs and all, you could change it and stuff. And he had like the Wu-Tang clan at every fucking morning, like half five in the morning, just a Wu Tang clan would come on and he would play like half the album for Tack very value.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Let's go. Fucking multiple professional. Right a fuck shit up.

SPEAKER_06 4:39

That's a great motivation to get up to start fucking So the Wu-Tang clan and the Fuji's went through like two separate periods of just you were just saying them every morning, just fucking turn that off. And he just he was like, I'm I'm the oldest of the room, nobody's gonna touch me.

Bedrooms VCRs And Replayed Films

SPEAKER_02 4:52

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SPEAKER_07 6:34

Those TVs I collect all like uh physical media and stuff now, so yeah, it's about DVDs and videos and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

It's coming around now, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:42

Everything's so dairy. See you search for the We Square TVs now on Facebook Marketplace and all, they're two, three hundred quid. Crazy, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Yeah, we fucking uh we had that we used what was we used to watch the same tape every night.

SPEAKER_06 6:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

Well, it was two, it was either two, Jimanzi or the mask. They're the only two tapes we would ever watch every single night.

SPEAKER_06 7:01

I have the mask on DVD coming in the post today or tomorrow. Yeah. I tell my kids about it, and they're all like, oh, it sounds brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 7:08

I fled on the fire tech. I walked on the firestick last week, or not last week, like fucking a while ago. Or like say two months ago, and my son loved it. And yeah, he dressed up on World Book Day as a mask. So he was kind of like dressed up, full green face, love and life.

SPEAKER_06 7:25

Oh no, yeah. Cameron Diazna movie, like that's uh cheese, probably one of my first like crushes you know when you see somebody on TV. Never got over.

SPEAKER_07 7:35

Should they be like, hey, take this video up to my for two and a half minutes come. What are you thinking about?

SPEAKER_09 7:42

Bridging my TV Just you and your brother just turn on the TV every couple of seconds.

SPEAKER_07 7:51

They're good old days, man. Yeah, fuck me.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

People kids don't realise how easy they have it. Not easy, but like I think it's a it's unfortunate for them. I believe they they're grown up in a fucking bad time, like so they're supportive so much. Yeah. They have so much to choose from that they don't even know what they like. I know, I know. And he has these like my brother has kids and they introduce him to Roblox, this fucking game on the on the iPad, and I was like, what the fuck? Nah, he's a processor of Roblox then he has a I bought a Nintendo Switch Um for Christmas and Santa Bonit Nah but kids in the car now.

SPEAKER_08 8:36

Show me watching my podcast anime, okay.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Um yeah, so Santa Full Santa made him with a Switch and he's like five or six games of it, like all these games Fortnite, Nintendo, or Mario, all Sonic, all the good games, does not look at it. Doesn't even I I'd say he's played it eight times on Christmas morning, and it's a fucking Nintendo Switch to its episode. It's a cracker, the guy we're playing on him, and they're not cheap. It's because he wants his fucking iPod to play Roblox or my phone cost. So I I give him the Switch. Play the Switch, get good at that. No, I want the I want Roblox. And I'm like, fuck.

SPEAKER_06 9:13

And if they're not playing it, they're watching other people play it. Do you get that? It's the worst, isn't it? You say that and then we watch Goggle Box when they go to bed, but you know what I mean? It's it's the same kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

He watches playing Fortnite, and I'm like, what's so good about that? I know, it's grim, isn't it?

Too Much Choice For Kids

SPEAKER_06 9:29

Like my kids get in the car and they're just like, Daddy, I want this song on, and then I ask um Joe the voice recognition on your phone, and five seconds later they have it. And you'd have said that growing up, you'd have got a slap. Your dad have been right in the fucking back of the car, and then first thing we're blasting.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Yeah. We tape.

SPEAKER_06 9:45

Shut up.

SPEAKER_07 9:45

Yeah. And hang about for four hours open. Just driving around circles.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Fuel prices were much cheaper back then. Yeah. You can't even leave the street now.

SPEAKER_04 9:57

We old enough to tape the charts now, we to tape the what? To tape the charts on the radio.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Oh wow, that's what we used to do that though. Used to fucking we went used to get the hang. Yeah. We went right back and then bought it tape taped over. Yeah. It's the good old days over that too. I actually was saying the other day at Anisha in our gym from kneecap. I have a tape in the house that he um we had a like uh he went to school with me and we had a Gaelic match and I have a video tape of us playing. Some documentary thing was doing something in Irish language. So we were playing Aquinas and we're in the semi-final of the Ulster Colleges or something. I think we were like two points down, there was a bit of a fight, and they see one of the boys beffing fucking uh Nisha. But I have it on tape. Class. Because you can't watch it because I've got a tape recorder or a VCR and you got a VCR again. Yeah. After the foot and the amount of good ones we had in the house. I know, I know.

SPEAKER_06 10:53

It's the same. Like I give away bin bags of stuff like 10, 15 years ago. And then I'm back around clacking it all again. So we move house in the summer and I'm gonna make like a do like an old school like kind of extravision blockbuster room. And just have everything just set up around the walls and TV wall might just like trailers and all playing movies coming out.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

It's like you wonder like you all kids ever like look back and be like, we had this, but the next generation, no, like the what we do now, like I just think it's too far gone now.

SPEAKER_06 11:20

Yeah. There's no end to it.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

I don't think like I was saying, the appreciation is there wanna be the kids and they're gonna appreciate things the way we did ever again after like Gen Zane or nothing like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Because as as I was saying, there's so much access to everything and anything. It can't change much. I don't think it can change much in the next fucking twenty years, thirty years, like the way it was for us within like if you look at the eighties, nineties in the 2000s, just boom, like that's when smartphones came out, and but in the nineties it was like like you say actually go down and rant the DVD for three quid for like four days. And you did it once a month, maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:00

And you watched the movie maybe five times because you you didn't know when you were gonna get to watch another movie.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Exactly it. You just watched it and watched it. Yeah, yeah. Chinese, you bought a Chinese once a fucking fortnight if you were lucky.

SPEAKER_06 12:10

Yeah, I know, I know, I know if you're lucky. I remember uh this Christmas gone there, I bought uh the TV Times and I was circling all the stuff that I wanted to watch, and I was like, I don't know why I'm doing this because I've seen it all already, you know, through online like websites and stuff. And uh you're just sitting there circling stuff, and you're like, I I'm doing this just for like nostalgic reasons because you have everything at the touch of a button, you know, there there's nothing coming on, like maybe Gavin and Stacy or something, you know, that they hold off and they put it out live and then it's on the iPlayer for the rest of the time. But yeah, 100%. Apart from things like that, it's like do you watch real TV? Do you watch normal TV?

SPEAKER_02 12:48

Do you know never anymore?

SPEAKER_06 12:49

Never do I never never I stopped playing RTV license too. You know the owner works for BBC.

SPEAKER_07 12:56

Just let on a go out to my mass house and watch it. But uh they'll hold this against me. Yeah, yeah. Just to hear Tim McGarry's voice. Uh but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

I know you're in that.

SPEAKER_07 13:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Yeah, but uh no, it's fucking uh I can't remember last time I even put like channel one to five on.

SPEAKER_06 13:17

I can tell you what's on TV at any given thing.

SPEAKER_02 13:19

That's all I had.

SPEAKER_06 13:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

Like that's all we had in our house was channel one to five and had the movie Ariel. Here I were just trying to get it to work.

SPEAKER_06 13:26

Yeah. Scary now, like, and then when you all you wanted was Sky and you're like, oh but there's a thousand channels now, you're not gonna watch them, you're gonna watch the same five, aren't you?

AI Videos Robots And Future Fears

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Yeah, 100%. Good old days.

SPEAKER_06 13:38

AI2's ruining everything, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah, I I I don't know what to believe anymore. I seen something and I was like, That could be true.

SPEAKER_06 13:45

I was like, I was convinced it was true. It's getting smarter and smarter every single day. Every single day, there's updates.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

The more information you give it, the more smarter it gets.

SPEAKER_06 13:53

It's like there was one run out the quickest person or quick quickest thing to run a half marathon, I think, recently during the week, it beat a human by robots, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

That's insane. In China was it?

SPEAKER_06 14:05

I think it was.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

And then I seen one there was there was a couple set up to start off before the humans, but I seen one, and again, this could be AI video, I don't know, but this is how fucked up it is. But one of them was running, and it was like all people like running beside it to try and video taking off, but there was a few of them, and one like fucking went the wrong direction, running their wall and felt trying to trying to run. So they picked it up and put it on a stretcher and kind of run.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Put it kind of robot away on a stretcher, and I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 14:32

Unbelievable. That's class. I'm surprised somebody didn't just come over with a drill and a screwdriver and all start working around. Mechanics.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Mechanics are live, we'll get a job and and fuck and work on the robots, cars no longer.

SPEAKER_06 14:46

But I'd imagine, see the future, like there's robots and stuff now that you can buy for your house. They're like uh I think they're ten thousand or twenty thousand dollars, and you get them shipped over and it like brings in your shopping and brings you a glass of water and stuff. And I think genuinely the future, I think we're all just gonna be we're all just gonna be sitting on a big sofa. And you'll take a tablet and you'll have a six-pack and you're fucking you'll type in what you want for your lunch and it'll just come out of somebody 3D printer microwave.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

That's what we're all waiting on. Fuck robots, just bring a curate for hangover. That's it. Tell anyone. So we're gonna all drink and just not feel exhausted for a week after.

SPEAKER_06 15:19

Does this do you get bad? Do you get bad hangover? I'll just be exhausted and like unmotivated. And you do a real disservice to the kids too, don't you? The next day it's just a write-off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

They're like a fucking Yeah, you're just you don't want them anywhere near you. You're just like I remember coming back from my stag and a beef after five days. Fucking five days, though. It was like a tablet here. It was just like exhausting. And then you think and my chair was just playing rolling me and I was at them, I was just like.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Not worth it. Where's your dad going? Never come back again.

Hangovers Training And Balance

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Oh, but yeah, it's just it's heavy on the body, but no cure, no cure for uh hangover. Can you drink much when you're training? I don't drink at all when I'm in when I'm in training, like when I'm fighting.

SPEAKER_06 16:15

I wouldn't Not even at the start, like at the very, very start.

Comedians Boxing And Crowd Nerves

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Nah, well, once I get fit niche or like even a a like a taser fitness, I'm just like bum. That's all that's all I need. And then the heads. All around, it's like it's it's smart, I it's hard to explain, like because you you don't know when you're gonna fit it. It's like, well I don't because uh like we all have the privilege of having like a promoter, a big promoter. So it's like I just need to be half-freddy to go, like and then wait on the call then just even when you're half-freddy and you're still you don't wanna commit too much and sacrifice so everything because then you may never get a call. Like you could be waiting here for a year call. Do you know what I mean? I had to f about 14 months over the fight and I was training away and it was frustrating, so I do believe I do believe it's important to still go out and enjoy a wee bit of time with your family and have a drink and have to do it. Like certain occasions you can go and have a drink over Christmas and whatever else. Um but there has to be a good balance, you can't just go one way and just not train. But the good thing about me is that like I've got my own gym and I fucking have no excuse not to train every day anyway. Every day anyway, so maybe I'll just fucking do something.

SPEAKER_06 17:25

Yeah. Um did you enjoy the comedians boxing? Oh, I was good.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

It was good class. I I was actually talking to Mickey Parker about this.

SPEAKER_06 17:31

Um He gets blocked messages in our group maybe once a month just going to get up. Will we do it again? And just nobody replies anymore.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

It's still training these years Stephen Hawking.

SPEAKER_06 17:42

Hawking, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Hawking Yeah, he loves it, but I was like, I I think that boots shit, but he's like trying to hang on with whatever Hopper is. I was like, and it was such a good success twice. Like it was amazing. It really was a big money race too for Charlie, which was great.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Yeah, wasn't it? Isn't it? Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_06 18:01

See, like nothing can prepare you. Like I I mean, I honestly feel like I trained more than anybody in the whole fucking place. But see, when the first bell goes and everyone's screaming from the balconies, there's just something that you just can't train for that. Yeah, you can't train for that feeling and how you deal with it. Yeah, it's and it took me maybe two rounds to actually come to terms with it and start.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Yeah, it is, it's it's it's very overwhelming because especially the ulcer hall, because they're on top of you.

SPEAKER_06 18:28

They really are.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

And there's times where I fought in the Ulster Hall even as an amateur, and it's absolutely packed thereafter. There's like an Ulster Senior Final one year, it was completely packed out. And I remember going there, I was like a ladder and old Kevin like my brother fighting the Ulster Senior Finals, and I was like, fuck me, this is unbelievable. And then it myself, I was like, like it was surreal though, like it was like right. But you've trained that many times then, but then it like it's like overwhelming that you can almost hear people feel like they're on top of you.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Because they're over the bottom and shit, yeah, and the atmosphere's so much.

SPEAKER_06 19:01

Like a bar pit, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 19:02

It's like a gladiatorial kind of with me, I get I get dragged into fights, like fighting with someone toe to toe because of the crowd. And my coach's like, just box, like you you're giving away all your advantages here, just boxing them like it's the crowd, it just gets just sucks in the fucking thing.

SPEAKER_06 19:19

And see when your corners talking, can you can you hear them? Like, do you are you able to decipher everything that's being seen?

SPEAKER_02 19:25

But there are times it doesn't register. Yeah. Have you ever asked me after what was your coach saying?

SPEAKER_06 19:30

You'd have no idea. It's like an autopilot kind of thing. You just a lot of it's muscle memory, but yeah. I remember training and doing like hooks and stuff, and uh and Patty Barnes was taking us. I think I think Tyrone was our trainer, and then I think Tyrone had to go and do something, and Patty ended up being there on fight night, and Patty was like, just straight jobs, and I was like, What's he talking about? Fucking straight jobs. I've been trained doing all these hooks and all, and I'm gonna go in flying good body shots and all this here. And I did like two rounds of hooks, and then Patty was like, I'm telling you, just straight down the middle, and then I just went straight down the middle, and I was like, Why did I not just listen to him from the start? Yeah. He obviously knows what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

It's just that's it, yeah. It's again, it's just one of the things. It was yeah. But what I loved about it was there was no like everybody was still on good, like friendly terms with each other. It was retarding it. I think everyone understood what it was for. Um I think it was a few we like slights through here and there in terms of like people like saying, Oh yeah, I'll fight him next time, or I'll fight no, like throwing a spawner on the works almost with each other.

SPEAKER_06 20:33

But you get that though, I'm with comedians too. Do you know what I mean? Um we always make content and stuff and we're roasting each other, and you know, there's like I fought Pete Giffin the year before, and he actually says to me, Here we're gonna have to knock us in the head because I was just taking it too far. I was like buying a mask and all of his face, you know, and like making videos about him and stuff, and just just trying to just create content online and create a buzz because we were one of the probably the lower down fights, or maybe the the first fight on what you would probably call a main card in a proper boxing match like so uh it was just one of them, and I was like, I'm gonna go for us here because I need to sell our fight because I've watched EFC enough for years, and I'm like, I need to go all out here and do it.

SPEAKER_01 21:11

I have a reputation and fall before that stranger in the street basically.

SPEAKER_07 21:17

Yeah, it's like I don't care if I get beat if I get two million fucking views online, it's worth it.

SPEAKER_06 21:21

But uh then it got to a point where I was just like he he contacted me and he was like, Here, we let's just leave it there because I just went too far, I think.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Fucking Diona was good, Diona was on there, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

Complete mismatch though.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

I know I I said at the start, I like the first time I trained Dona, I just went, I don't know who she's fitting, but yeah, she uh when someone said to me she's fitting Bruno, I went Yeah. It's a mismatch is a whole car. I don't think there's anyone capable of fitting down here. Like maybe put her in against too tall and such a big reach, she's gonna be like, Down or something.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Even then she'd put Patty or something.

SPEAKER_02 22:02

But she yeah, she's I just made it she's fucking headshoting.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Yeah, there'll be no fucking I know to me don't need to mess their brain in your house, or be doing a bit new.

SPEAKER_06 22:11

I'll be getting fucking headbutting never hit it. But we used to hold pads and all together too, and like just train together. And she she she can 100% hit as hard as a man.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yeah, she's fucking she's good, like she's good technique and all, but it's very hard to teach it. It's a snapshot, supposedly, because when she first came there, I was like, have you ever like box for her? And she was like, What do you mean? She always makes a contrary serious. Yeah. I was like, What do you mean? I was like, um like have you ever boxed? I was like, No, well, I've done like training, but I was like, just YouTube. She's like she's like looking around like, no, you make them easier to me. I was like, No, I'm not then just asking me.

SPEAKER_06 22:54

I was like, she could fucking clean up an MMA.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Yeah, because she's she's got she's like she's a unit, like she's fucking legs, no, like strong legs, you know.

SPEAKER_06 23:02

Yeah, but um yeah, she she came off the the comedian's boxing and she was like really disappointed because she wanted an actual scrap, she wanted a fight where she just didn't get it, she never got touched. She just kept her hand out. So training's going well then, as I was saying earlier.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

I haven't had any confirmation of a fight yet, so I'm just but I do like that Katie Taylor bill is in Crow Park on the fifth. I think that's gonna happen on the 5th of September. Um and 90% certain amount like uh on that car, which will be massive for like Harry's parking and then finally, you know that's how we're gonna be a fair will fight and it's very hard to bring it at it. Like he's like he sounds already, it hasn't even been like announced or confirmed it. Like she's the f she's so like she's so iconic and she's so like rare that she because she's the first to get women. Like she she created women's boxing. Basically she like turned her dad single handedly and created women's boxing. No one else is ever gonna be able to do that again, because it's created, it's done.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 24:22

She's done it, she put women's boxing in the Olympics because of her. She's multiple world champion as a as a like who's gonna have that profile again.

SPEAKER_06 24:32

And it'll be sad to see her retire too, it's a full end of an era, isn't it? Yeah, and then there's Todd. Obviously, Fury Joshua's not gonna be fighting a club fighting each other, not absolutely not.

Football Money And Lost Rivalries

SPEAKER_02 24:41

That should surely be in England though, shouldn't it? That would be a Whamley. That would be a Wambley thing. Or Spurs Stadium or something or something something massive like that. Speaking of football, you're winning the league, aren't you? Looks like it. You're you're Arsenal, eh?

SPEAKER_06 24:53

Liverpool.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Liverpool, you're right, Liverpool. Yeah. Yeah. Looks like it.

SPEAKER_06 24:57

Uh Holland just turns it on at the right time.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Man City and Arsenal are still going to drop points. Oh yeah. I do think they're both there's still five games still to come. Six games left. I think there's they'll they'll both still drop are still gonna be more like it's not just it now, it's all within the next six games you've won the league. It's easy to say that, but it's far from it. Like especially Arsenal have a champ of the and all to focus on and city sort of now people are sort of talking about the message travel again. Just think, just focus on the lake, you fucking that's it.

SPEAKER_06 25:27

But um is it four times no you obviously haven't won a four times row, we won it last year? No, we don't know.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Um but times have changed you fucking again back if you look back in the 90s, like Man United were dominating football. My two brothers are my United supporters, and I'm Man City, me and my dad. We get tortured growing up.

SPEAKER_06 25:48

How did you become a city fan through your dad? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:51

And the two brothers are united, but once they see when they were younger, the uncles on my master united. They took all the like nephews and nieces and everyone all away, all the mass and dads when they watched them all. Brought them to Man United match to watch and the Matt Roy Kane, Matter I can't. I was too young, I was only four or something, three or four, they were like nine, eight or nine or ten, so they all went away, got their photographs, got their shirts and all signed, and then they were just united to their heart. And I just stayed at home, but I was silly. But now I'm glad. But it probably wasn't in the nineties and late two things. But uh it's at least on the p60 in our house, you know what I mean? Because in our house, it was like we we they used to torture us, but we couldn't even say anything in the terms. It's like so, like we just had to accept it. Like, what am I going to argue? Oh, these are shit. They weren't, they clearly weren't. And now that I feel the same. I actually feel sorry for you for us because there's no crack at them no more. They're shit, like accept that they're shit. Yeah. They haven't been insisted in years, and they're blamed on the board, and there's probably a lot goes on behind football that we don't even know, but I'm just like that's not even like there's no fun on it no more because it's it's it's good when you get a wee bit of hope. Yeah, yeah. And it's like taking away from us.

SPEAKER_06 27:06

Which I think the rivalry though, like even United City and all, and even United and Liverpool, it's just not fun anymore.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

That's what I mean, it's not like Arsenal went off they went off radar for years, neither up nor competing. I'm starting to say see the amount of man United supporters taxing me saying I hope you beat these constant Sunday about Arsenal. I'm like why? I hate the supporters, I hate the supporters. I mean, it's funny because there's you only know a handful of city supporters that aren't annoying you, but you know loads of Arsenal supporters.

SPEAKER_06 27:38

Yeah, the Arsenal supporters are allowed online, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02 27:40

Like in the fuck haters and oh, he's full of shit.

SPEAKER_06 27:44

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

He's like, Oh, we'll still win the league, we're still top. And he's just like, Oh, he's fucking not anymore, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:51

Yeah, but um an interesting run-in, like, but um this the Spurs at the other side too, he's looking mad, isn't it? It's unbelievable a decade, right?

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Just literally got a whole new massive stream and they're won't do anything.

SPEAKER_06 28:03

Should they play us in the Champions League what four years ago? A couple of years ago.

SPEAKER_00 28:06

In the final?

SPEAKER_06 28:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Fucking mental.

SPEAKER_06 28:08

Scary, isn't it? It's like the leagues of the was it the early 2000s?

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Yeah, just yeah, don't just 2007 or something, just took the fucking snows dived. And then Leicester now too. Leicester relegated. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 28:19

Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

You just don't know like they won the league, what 2017 or something?

SPEAKER_06 28:23

Yeah, ten years ago.

unknown 28:24

Like the day they got relegated, they won the league ten years ago.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

That's saying, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 28:34

It's it's very interesting for football. It's girly, because it's like keeps it it keeps it fresh, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_06 28:39

It's gooey, like that's like it's the same shite teams going down now and then winning the league and coming back up and you're just like, come on. But I said like I think once you go if you go down twice in like three seasons, it should be like right here. You have a five year ban on the very next fucking step there.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

I like the weird the the Raxham story where like Raxham's just climbing their leagues. I hope they go right up. I would love to see him running away.

SPEAKER_07 29:00

Especially in a row too.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Like no one's done it before in a row, has they? I think did Nathan Forest do it before they've done Bournemouth.

SPEAKER_06 29:10

I would I think I think Nathan Forest done it from League One?

SPEAKER_00 29:13

I think so.

unknown 29:14

I think Eddie High did it with Bournemouth.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

He did do it, he done it, jeez. But I think Nathan Forest done it with Brian Clough today, and he won the Premier League. And then he won the league with Playboy. Champions League, too. He went up like League One, Championship, Premier League, Champions League. That's how he did that's how you do it there. That's how you snap your fucking unlocking history, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 29:35

You're not gonna that anymore, you don't get that ever again.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

You need the money. It's all about the money now, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 29:39

I'd say five, ten years, all the celebrities will be owning football teams and it'll just be a fucking circus.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

I always say it's like Ronaldo and Messi and all these superstar footballers and kids now are getting like whatever they're getting a week. Like they go to like Saudi Arabia to get like a half million or a million a week. What are you gonna spend it on?

SPEAKER_06 30:00

I know, I know. You can't spend that and fucking got doll.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Like his great great great great great great great grandkids aren't gonna see that money, they're aren't gonna be able to spend that money. I know that's gonna go that's like you know, like years ago it was like you had kings and you were born in the royalty, and somehow you end up part of the royalty and you still end up rich, like a hundred years later. That's gonna be like his grandkids, and every footballer pays now his grandkids. It has to be. It's just funny.

SPEAKER_06 30:26

But that that'll burst soon, surely. Do you know what I mean? Because when you see when you think about it, excuse me, they're spending the money that we're spending to go and the money that we're spending on on tops, like a top nice what, fucking 90 quid, 100 quid.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 30:38

And then they're like, why is everyone getting them for China for 15 quid?

SPEAKER_02 30:40

And you're like, Why the fuck do you think why would it not?

SPEAKER_06 30:42

Yeah, it's the same with the with the IPTV and all, too. It's like you see if they brought out like this one like Netflix style Premier League app or something, and it was just tenner a month. Yeah, that's it. And you sold it worldwide, fucking nearly every single red-blooded male would buy it online too. The TV cases would be real active. But if you drop down, like I I have always said, like, do you know the way is it like football cars or it's like everyone has like a star rating, like one to five? I think that should be the case for footballers. Yeah and everyone has a star rating, and star one you get like ten grand a week, star two, and it's in that bracket up to fifty grand a week and it's kept. And fucking ticket prices in the match is twenty quid or something. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 31:27

That would be for like it'd be it would it would actually keep a standard for like really long. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 31:34

Like Yeah. And you get points or something, do you like a fantasy football? You get points or whatever, and you get a certain amount of points you get in a.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

It's like people go in the paddle, empty lasers from the way they bought you. They took a long to buy united, neither were fucking them, haven't they? Yeah. Based on money I never read and had. I fucking love it. I know.

SPEAKER_06 31:54

See the nineties and early two thousands when United dominated and you just got slagged every week by mates in school, it was the worst. Every week. It's the worst.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

We always see for some reason, like, even when I was a kid, Montarials had a good track record against Man United, like Sean Goter and all scoring fucking brace. I remember then, like, all celebrating City, but City finishing like 15th on the table. Fake allegation, but beating United every shit and everything.

SPEAKER_06 32:16

But that's like Liverpool and Everton too. Do you know what I mean? It was like no matter when they came to play each other, it didn't matter who was top or who was bottom.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

It was just they were just going to batter each other for 90 minutes and football went out the window for 90 minutes. It was just like fick and watch.

SPEAKER_06 32:27

And it was the best, wasn't it? Yeah. And now there's just nothing, they're all mates. Apart from uh Gabrielle and Holland on Sunday, I loved saying that.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Boy King Like always gives off about it, then he's right, because it's like they're all joking and see after they're all mates now. See after uh like ninety minutes and they're looking over to like hugging. I don't like it. It's the worst. Proper raising. Like if I played football for since I'm to Swiss a couple of years ago and but we lost I was like fucking just uh people on the world joking to you and I was like fuck off, like what are you happy about? I know that's the way it should be. That's an entire worst enough. It's just but as you say, the money they're getting in the day don't give a shit. They get I remember this years ago. Bobo Bali playing for Celtic and he sat in that he sat in the late, he sat on the bands for two years never played playing football, he was a half-pair player and he wouldn't leave. Remember him thinking 20 round a week ain't that buzzing. I sat there.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

You do the same yourself? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Kevin or fucking William Bridge on it from Man City, man that he bought Wayne Bridge for like twelve million. Company's getting 180 grand a week, and he was useless, and he just sat in the bench for like a year and a half, never kicked the ball once.

SPEAKER_06 33:36

So wasn't there wasn't Danny Drinkwater too? And then your guy from Everton, what do you call him, went to City as well and just ran on the bench?

SPEAKER_02 33:43

Defensive midfielder.

SPEAKER_06 33:44

Uh yeah.

unknown 33:45

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Yeah, you know him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Scott Carson, too. Scott Carson. Yeah, he was there for like six years.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

They actually he only retired her, like I said. He uh fucking 57. They said three grandkids. They said like they they kept him almost like because of his personality in the dressing room and around the team and around the introduced new players. He almost had a job. It's like a father figure almost. Yeah. He was like he was he was meant to be good crack, so all new players came in, he went over, brought them in, showed them interpretation. He was like we too great at Man City's football stadium, and he he shared his battery and all that kind of so it was like he he had a job within the facility of not actually being a goalkeeper or something else.

SPEAKER_06 34:31

Yeah, it's weird how it's like just employ someone to come in and be that you know, without actually using one of the players, like just use the players as players.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

I'll do it for fucking the Grand the Week.

SPEAKER_06 34:43

So I'd say you compare Scott Carson's uh like his spur room in his house and all the medals and all he has, and then Gerard's too. Like Gerard has fucking three or four medals and Scott Carson's just wall to wall. League titles and all.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah, 100%. What's a crack with the comedy gigging?

SPEAKER_06 35:06

Is it like Yeah, very busy. It's uh I I run gigs too. So uh I run maybe I'd say maybe about half a half a dozen gigs at the minute, like, so it's quite it's quite strenuous. See trying to just get on to people and book and acts and stuff, and um then it's like trying to rearrange everybody's like, oh he's done their so we can't do their for six months or no, she's done this one. So it's fucking just it's so stressful. I'd love to just shop that gig and just do a set, you know, whereas there's so much goals in behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Does he do it? So yeah. Does he do that once a week? Just once once a week, twice a week.

SPEAKER_06 35:40

Every wedding. And do you do it?

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Do you do the same thing like once a week in a different venue or something like that?

SPEAKER_06 35:45

Once a month, usually, once every two months for some of them. So it just depends what they want and what their budget and stuff's like and what the sort of what the thirst for it's like in that area. But I do more like sort of rural ones to outside of Belfast. Yeah. Uh just I I don't know how, just started running a few gigs, and then people are like, Oh, Haggerty runs gigs. Do you know if anyone comes to them going, Will you run a gig with me? They go, I'll get you on to run it because I don't run gigs. Yeah. And then it just sort of builds up and builds up and builds up. But uh seems weird at the minute because I I don't know why. I think it's that you know, kind of TikTok audience.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:16

Where you're trying to like retrain them or train them when for the first time they come in and sit down. They don't know the etiquette for being in a comedy club or a comedy room. So you have to try and like sort of teach them the the way it all works and stuff, do you know? It's because they're used to just sitting at home and just being on their phone or they watch a special and they're on their phone at the same time, whereas you go to a gig and you're just standing there in front of you.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

That's that's the beauty of it because you need it. It's it's it's an opportunity to go on, put your phone away. Yeah. Like commend, send them in, put your phone down, put your phone away, and forget you have your phone in your pocket.

SPEAKER_06 36:44

Yeah. I l I love when you go to a gig and like with mine, I do one-liners, but I I never really have the I don't have a set. Like a lot of the actors are do you know, like spend all year working on a set. Whereas I have jokes, I have maybe 200 jokes at any one time in my head. So I go out and start talking to the audience, and if I say to someone, what do you do for a living? They're like, I'm a doctor, I'll go alright. If three or four doctor jokes, then I can throw them out. Do you know what I mean? So it's kind of nice where you go see me, it's you'll get something different almost every time. You know, depending on how the audience react or what they they give me.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

I think I've seen you guys went that you've four Ben Morligan or something. Ben Morrigan, maybe a couple of years ago, like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:24

Ben Morligan's a good spot. Who was it? Who was on that? Frey, man, Frey. Yeah. He was on that as well, wasn't he? Yeah, Darn Matthews, maybe too. I think he mc didn't.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Yeah, he mc.

SPEAKER_06 37:34

Yeah. Do you go to much comedy now? It's probably hard to get to it.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

I do go sometimes, but like Shane actually messaged me and asked me to go tomorrow night to um SSC to house the SSE, but I'm too busy and through the sex, he's gigging and I've got the tail and I would have loved it if I went there, I always enjoyed him, as I say. It's a good opportunity to go and just like leave your phone and just have a laugh if we're actually with your phone. Um and then but like I like you say, I love the like the lotteries ones and up and everything it's during the weekend. I was working in Florida gym, dark is working, I've got the chair. I know. It's very hard just putting it down at midnight, you know what I mean? You have to be something. You can't just get a babysitter. Like, oh, I'm aware, why it's a comedy gig. Yeah. It's like it's almost need to be like like a like a reason for like a like someone's big coming, though, like when Kevin Hartnell came and went to the SEC. So like going to SSE is like a a proper big fucking like gig, you know. Or if you're just going down where you want, you can go down anything because one every week. Yeah, that's it. Um that's it. So it's like I don't think it is often off, but I prefer anyone's more. That's what I'm trying to say. So we have to get more intimate, so we go like we went to play Morgan up just bringing me a van, you're gonna be saddle, we just sat in the corner, loft, like had a proper loft, like yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:50

And as you say, there are more intimates, so it's it's who would be your favourite who who if you were to watch comedy, what who would you watch?

SPEAKER_02 38:58

I don't know. Well uh here, um I I I like Mickey. I think he's very like his sense of humour would be very cl similar to mine when I ever like like it's just crude and he he doesn't care what he says. Like holding back like and there's fuck we had him on the podcast and he was just fuck it was like half time and I was like fucking I'd love to have them stories.

SPEAKER_06 39:27

Men are just like oh I'll put the kids to bed and then I just kind of like watch TV for an hour and then I went to bed myself and they're like smart because it was like in every life someone has someone else can relate to it.

SPEAKER_02 39:39

Yeah, you know what I mean. So what do you do? Like I like this day's my life I can enough related, even though I've only got one can you be fucking sexy head or something?

SPEAKER_06 39:46

But that's it. You talk about newborns and you talk about your wife being pregnant and stuff, it's relatable.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

It's all relatable to people's relationships, so people always can't relate to him.

SPEAKER_06 39:53

I think that's yeah, that's the thing where you do lavaries and you kinda have to relate the those people, but then you have to relate the older couples that are there, and then you have to relate the university like first years and stuff, and it's like it's that's scary because you have to be like you have to be able to change it up to suit the audience. And then you go to market, you know, and you could gig three, four times a night, and people go, Oh, I have this new bit that I'm working on, it's about ten minutes long, and by the end of the week it's perfect and it gets a laugh every five, ten seconds. Yeah. And then but we can't do that here because there's two to three gigs a week. Do you know what I mean? And you can't do them all every week. You have to wait a month or two months to do them again. Yeah, so you almost feel like we're so far behind, but also we have probably so much more material, but it's maybe weaker in a sense because we don't have uh the opportunity to craft it and do it over and over.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:40

But it's great from spending so much time with the likes of yourself and Tyrone and Patty and all the other boxers. It's mad how similar our worlds are. Do you know what I mean? It's like there's so many similarities.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

It's a lonely, it's you're lonely, it's it's it's all new to like entertaining people.

SPEAKER_06 40:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

It's all new to entertain them, it's not that's it.

SPEAKER_06 40:57

And only you can put your name out there, do you know what I mean? And you put your name out there by doing well on s on the big stage, you know.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

Yeah, it's like can't we transfer it over? Didn't he went from boxing? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:06

So many use that I think could you talked about it before, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 41:08

Yeah, we're gonna do a charity one. We used on the charity boxing, you do a charity stand up. I fuck I I don't think I have the nerve to it. My problem is I like I was I always say it's the police like but uh people can't understand me, so I'm already like self-conscious of my accent being far too strong. So if I step my shirt Belfast, I'm fucked. So what's the point? That's the way I look at it. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:31

But then people say that about the Dairy accent and look at Dairy Girls and all do you know what I mean? It's it's just text people to get used to hearing it more.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

It does, like it's look at kneecap, do you know what I mean? They don't water anything down, so they're just they're just they're themselves like themselves. No, I don't expose but it's like sometimes I look back, I go, what are you? What what was it? Like I just can't.

SPEAKER_06 41:51

That's me too, though. I have gigs that in the past that have that haunt me to this very day. Like there's there's times where I'm even talking on stage and something comes out of my mouth, and then my brain goes here, don't say that name my mouth's like I've already said it. That's fucking ten seconds ago. And then I have to say to the audience, I'm like, Pierre, this doesn't leave us room, do you know? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 42:12

Yeah. Because it just takes one, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 42:14

They put something out there and it then it gets taken out of context, and before you know it, you're you're cancelled like.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

That's an old hanger, good thing about the phones. Like it should be like a like when we went to Cabin Hart, the phones were locked away. Yeah, the phones had to be locked away in the way, yeah, which was brilliant.

SPEAKER_06 42:27

We've seen them in Laveries. We were invited to like a sort of uh a work in progress in Laveries, all the comedians. And you if you were seen even with your phone out, there were there's fucking four Japanese lads ready to break your arm. It just Yeah. And even like what's happening? Yeah, because uh I think it was Shane or or maybe Colin introduced him, but then he doesn't come on for about two or three minutes because they have to get out of the way and sort of like leave the whole area. And then a big team of people bring him in, and then on the way back they were a little bit more lenient than he was maybe only had two people walking back with him. And I was right by the the corridor we was working, or walking, sorry, and I was about to put my hand out to sort of give him a wee high five, and then I was like, I'm not even gonna fucking give him the time of day because my arm will get broken too. Or he'll just not touch it and I'll feel like a dick, do you know what I mean? I was like, I'm just I'm not even gonna I'm not gonna bother. Yeah, but they would have made freaking content to see all the time. Fucking three million of them. Yeah. It's unbelievable to just they know that uh lads of his calibre now are coming over and doing our gigs, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 43:35

It's yeah, because things here as well. While he was in Dublin, was he was shown your man uh Phil Vaughn? Yeah it's like that's like that's when you know just lads you only see on TV. Rcom is saying he was in Things House, one of the uh Dave Chappelle's house. Yeah as well in New York. Embedded round for dinner.

SPEAKER_07 43:58

It's a part of social media, I think, too.

Meeting Legends Without The Selfie

SPEAKER_02 44:00

Yeah. I suppose like we all have this like fear that these people are like untouchable because we only see them on TV in America, but then when you're there in front of them, it's like fuck he's actually alright. No, yeah. That's happened to me before when that like when I was fighting in New York, like Mike Tayson's right there, like standing right beside me. I'm standing right next, right next, like shoulder to shoulder with Rangar Shane. I'm like, he's like a fucking chair to me and we're the same weight. Yeah. And Dan Henny's there and all these like boxers that I looked at, like, we're and I'm going like it didn't phase me like, but it was just like Mike Tyson's there and all like 21 Savages are it doesn't like but it didn't phase me, but I'm like, you're actually not that far away. Like you think East Conch you'll never see these people, you'll never be in the same room as these people.

SPEAKER_06 44:47

But isn't it weird though too when you think of like maybe the teenage you and you you your teenage you're just going for what the fuck is this mod? And you're just standing there just beside them. Like me and the owner were in uh New York in October doing gigs and just casually just chatting to Louis CK upstairs in one of the bars, like just waiting to go on. Class. And you're just like, and you and then you just walk away and you're just like, I just had a big chat with Lucy K there. It's not just people.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

Yeah. It's for me. I like I I've had that experience of talking, like it's just not a good idea. It's not about a photo experience, it's not about a photo with him. It's not it's it exactly it, it's not about social media, it's about me. I have that story to say, I was not and and Ranger shows me, like, look at me, and he 'cause they called my name out. And then Arnold Barbozo called his name out, he wear him first, and then I'm going, 140. He looks at me and goes, 140. And I went, Yeah. Because with no tapping on him, we're literally getting ready to stand on scales. And he's going, 140. I went, yeah. And he's looking up at me because he's he's uh he's ten eight. He looks a lot bigger on TV, but I'm massive for my weight, but he looked at me going, 140, like 140 pounds. I'm like, yeah, and he goes, damn. And then I stood in the scales and I made the weight I was taking back, and then he weighed in three and a half pound over. So we could find like 150 grand. Jeez. And he's like, fuck all pet. This that was it. He's like, fuck shake. Give it to me. Just give it to me. Shit in my mouth for 150 grand.

SPEAKER_08 46:14

I'll take your three and a half points. Yeah. Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

That's just like that's that's different, like different level of like fame. I'm like, he's 11 or 12 million followers on Instagram. I seen a thing yesterday. I don't even know why these things were all full of shit, but his thing with Justin Bieber club says Justin Bieber's earnings and you swipe across and all the stuff. The the most expensive things Justin Bieber owns and I'm like going across. His wife's ring was three million, is like he has an airplane for 67 million he pay for like a private jet. And I'm like, Yeah. Like, what? There's no need. That's like there's no need. He's this house in LA, he's this house in Coachella, and they're all like fucking fifteen million dollars. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_06 47:00

Like, what's a like I know, I know. It's just a different world, innit?

SPEAKER_02 47:06

I wouldn't even want to live like it.

SPEAKER_06 47:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:07

I just don't think there's animal.

SPEAKER_06 47:09

You'd be shitting yourself 24-7, wouldn't you? You'd be fairly getting robbed and mugged and yeah. Just not worth it.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

Why would you want to live like it? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 47:18

We're moving in the summer and um we're moving to a much bigger house and we're shitin' ourselves, me and the owner. I'm like anging at some T TV and all of that on. What the fuck are you? Like you'd literally go to one corner of our house and scream and you wouldn't hear it at the other side. And we're like, I I I we're we're like, we shouldn't be doing this, you know. Let's just stay where we are in our like smaller house.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

Like just nowhere. Out of your comfort zone, you're sort of like standing in your comfort zone and being like, Yeah. But it's like stuff like that. Screw like I mean we when we bought our house, I was like a life a lifelong dream of mine was to buy my own house, like they just I was like if I like Andre do much of love and if I box and buy a house out of it, and I've I've seen that as a success because like and we done it and I was like fuck I'm gonna get married and then I've I've just bought a second house and I'm like Stamp Judy, I'm like Stamp J fuck Snap J put her name on So you're gonna do a Rand Garcia.

SPEAKER_07 48:15

What's a Stamp Juty 30 grand?

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Oh fuck that no stamp judying me, it's not it's not her name, but um and I'm just like fuck like but you it's my because they're all like lifetime, like literally lifelong goals of mine to do it, and I've not but you're not any regular, you're not richer.

SPEAKER_06 48:38

You have to take a step back. I think every once in a while it's something that I'm guilty of never doing. I'd beat myself up if I have no work on for like two weeks. Yeah. And you need to just take a step back and almost have a CV just printed beside your bed. You wake up every morning, read it, and go, Oh, I'm doing alright, you know, I'm fine, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

I know a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_06 48:55

You live for the future, don't you? And you're always like going, What's next? What's next? And then you achieve your goal and you're like, right, I need the next thing now. But it's like that whole uh I seen Dan Bulzarian. Do you remember your big fucking hurry? Um I seen him on a podcast one time and he says like he gets to a point now where it's so hard to make him happy. He like he has all these women, he can literally like sleep with ten women a day if he wants, whoever he wants. He goes downstairs and Michelin star chef cooks all his meals, he goes and stays in the fucking six-star resorts and all. He's like, Where but where do you where do you go from there? What what do I get for my birthday? Do you know what I mean? What how do you please me? And it's like he just wants to be in a weak council house in West Belfast, do you know what I mean? That's very good. You in a tenor in a scratch card and you're like fucking wicked out the night back in the big key woman.

SPEAKER_01 49:49

We're not scratch cards. Like that always said they're fucking knocking their dance bar again. Fucking half in the morning, they're all kicking out their pajamas. Look at the scratch cards, they're fucking starting on my breakfast time off the fucking thing.

SPEAKER_06 50:05

It's like the more you get, the more you have. It's like it's like kids, it goes back to what we were talking about at the start. It's like um you just you the more you give your kids, the harder it is to please them.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Yeah, it's like you have to appreciate.

SPEAKER_06 50:16

Like I remember going to soft play fucking twice when I was a child. Do you know what I mean? If if it was lucky. It was probably because my dad wanted to enter in Scratch Guard. Do you know what I mean? Whereas like now my kids go three times a week. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02 50:27

It's only to shot your head, it's like fuck off in there, I'll have a shot of a coffee and ruts on the phone and whatever. Yeah. Like it's just different life. Different life, that's exactly it.

SPEAKER_06 50:37

And you want to give your kids everything that you didn't have, but then giving them everything you didn't have. Spoiling them. Spoils them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:45

I swear to like I can't wait till we have our second kid because he's only 10, he just gets what he wants.

SPEAKER_06 50:51

But then But you can write your wrongs then with the second one.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Yeah. And he wants me to pay with him, and I don't want to play with him. Yeah, yeah. It's like if we hang him up early in the morning, I'm in the gym from fucking half five, and then I'm in there to ten, and I train myself, and I come back, get him school, and and he's like, Daddy, pay me on play with him for a wee bit. It's never enough. He wants more. I'm like, fuck, I just need to chill for a bit and have a cup of tea.

SPEAKER_00 51:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

And then there's no kids up North State, there's not much kids up where we live. And he's five. They had him out in his own yet. I was out in my own bright. We lived in a cul-de-sac in turf lodge, and it was uh fucking 40 or kids with the older brothers on the boat. I was always, you know, there was always someone there to keep an eye on you, like, in the wee cul-de-sac, weren't allowed to leave a bottom of the street, that's alright. Onto the main road. So he's missing out on it, and I feel bad for him. And then I see these other kids who I know, like these other people I know bringing their kids, and two of them or three of them, and they're away doing stuff together, and I'm like, I feel bad even bringing him. Like, we bring him to his zoo, it's me, him and his ma. Yeah. What's he like? He's not getting like he's getting memories in the other. But I love him to just all be out playing.

SPEAKER_06 52:02

It should be legal, it should be illegal to keep your kids in the room.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

We better cousin out the way around. Fucking all of these stupid things. Like we had to make your own fun. That's basically and that's what you remember. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 52:15

That they're all the things, they're all like great memories, and you look back in your life and you you smile going. 100% fucking that swing around the lamp post.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

Did you just use an urgent like make ice lights and like on a steep hill? What slides? Like an ice light. Like when it was snowing and stuff, or what? If it was freezing, like it was below zero temperature, we were going to get it. Steep hill, ah, we've done that. For years we've done that, but I haven't seen like I wouldn't say I've seen that in the last 15 years until it's a few.

SPEAKER_06 52:49

Just nobody cares anymore. Loads of stuff in the room. And then the hot press mamma hasn't heard the barn strain them and all. Vinegar. Treat them like new board chicks, you just fucking topper words on this one's got fucking 18 winds and all the things just lambda.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

I put my hands in paddle every day for two hours or something. I was like, why the fuck's he put his hands in pedal for two hours? And I thought it was like it makes his hands harder. And he's like, Can I put my colours in pedal?

World Title Dreams And Life After

SPEAKER_07 53:23

Yeah, and I'll be putting them in pedal, he's the fucking price of it.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah. Uh what's the dream fight? What's what's what's the goal?

SPEAKER_02 53:32

I don't really have a dream fight um in terms of opponent, but because it's just a dream for me to win a world title and that's again I I really wish like because of Katie Taylor thing in Ancle Park, I really, really wish I was younger and casement was built and I was able to get fighting casement, I'd say it's oh it's coming. But I'd say by the time I'd here I'd be fucking. I could be your Katie Taylor fighting your Benjamin Button. But uh something like that would be class right on the undertown road, right? Like not far from where I live, not far from where I grew up. Playing on it f as like as a a GA player like as a kid. And so I think it'll be a class, like class one to the year, but I'll probably be past my fucking time by the time that comes.

SPEAKER_06 54:27

But is it about three, four years away, is it?

SPEAKER_02 54:29

I'd say four or five years maybe. Is it about fucking thieves?

SPEAKER_06 54:33

You start making that big money, you could you know, hire a few extra lads to work on it, get it ready earlier.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Push it on, push it on. Fucking but um something like a happy class for it. Just for me, a dream for me would be just I just want to want to worry title. Because you've I've been boxing from I was eight, I've had my first fight when I was eight. And uh I just want like it's a life like you put a life like a lifetime like a lifetime out of commitment into something you want to get what you what you want it out of it, which is the one of world title and I I do believe we should have had it by an eye already, obviously, due to like fucking politics of boxing. It didn't happen, but uh still very confident it will happen. And it will get there like um just keeping that on the door someone wants her, no mate.

SPEAKER_06 55:16

That's it, that's it. Uh but I know what what do you do after then? Have you an eye on what you'll do in the future?

SPEAKER_02 55:21

I'll go into coaching, like I'll coach out definitely, I'll definitely help out coaching the kids and how you're gonna be boxing club or whatnot, and then maybe somewhere down line maybe help out with the co with the pros or the elite amateurs like nationally or something, maybe. I'll I'm I'm a good coach, definitely a good coach. Uh but I've got me in the gym and all as well, you know what I mean? So I've scratched something that's all enough to keep the ball back and focus on regardless. Like in between fights that keeps me sane, like 'cause for boxers see like boxers in between fights, they don't know what to do themselves. It's like fuck what do you do? Like do you train, you're supposed to have a break, you're supposed to let yourself recover. It's like you know, it's it's it's a hard life in between it is like it's like like a poly pumlet. No, a poly pamlet like 100% fucking balloons, doesn't he? And even like he hadn't like all the rest of it. He used to used to blow up as well, go drink in the pub and just he didn't want to separate himself from being that kid from the council state. And I think because it's such a working class sport, you don't want to do it, you never want to like take yourself away from it. Yeah. Because people will be like, fuck, you think he is well, you know, do you know what? Yeah. Um But you have to, don't you? But yeah. You have to, you're has to be a bit of a there has to be I'm guilty of it. Yeah. I go back down like not that I am anybody, but like you still need to pull yourself away from me, because there was times after every fate where I was going down and just sitting in the rock bar all week drinking, just sitting with all fucking people who you know what I mean? And it keeps you grounded in a sense, but so now with the gym and I've opened that gym and it's busy and it's fucking with loads of members and and I love it now. I love helping people love like give passing allergies on and and just engaging with new people every day or like a purpose to wake up and a purpose to like rather than just getting up in the morning dying about the house, what do you do today, what do you do today. Because there was a stage I was like, God I was like, fuck me.

SPEAKER_06 57:13

Do you have like though that it there's like uh you're just waiting on a phone call? Do you mean it's like your world could change overnight with just a phone call or uh an email or something?

SPEAKER_02 57:21

Like I f when when my manager fummy, leating for me, when I got that barboza fit, he was ranked number one in the world, it was like a world title eliminator. And I was like, How we did it? And I was like, let's do it. And I just might have sent her well like you're you're you may leave work. She was like, Well, I was like, 'cause you may leave work, I'm gonna beat him. She was like, Why would I leave work? I was like, 'cause you're I ain't gonna win. Once I win this fight, that's it. How we like I'm mandatory to fit TFM Lopez, we're talking a million, at least a million for a fight, mm-hmm and then I'm gonna beat him. And I'm like, I was so confident. There's no way Barbosa's gonna beat me. So like he makes that working soon. Okay, so we built in three weeks. All up, get the fucking get the brick and mortar for uh obviously he was fucking robbed, but like going that fight I was super confident, going like I'm gonna beat this guy. Yeah and then and you did, it's as well as he didn't fucking have their noise in the work.

SPEAKER_08 58:15

Yeah, my fucking stopping for a spoon back in Monday morning, they're about three fucking middle of August.

SPEAKER_02 58:27

Oh fuck, but yeah, but like you say, a phone call for me at that time. I thought, whoa, like that's dope. Yeah, this is gonna change my life. This is what this is everything that I've ever wanted, and this is now what's gonna happen now, like everything's secure now, just security. That's all I wanted, and obviously it didn't happen. I still like I still got paired very well for the fate, but it's only one fight, and then yeah, and you have so many people.

SPEAKER_06 58:53

You have to look out for your future too, whereas you say, like, if you go 14 months without a fight, it's like you have to fucking prepare for that with that one one check.

SPEAKER_02 58:59

And I'm lucky enough with the gym, still getting an income from gym every month. Um, but it's fucking it is, it's one phone call away from Nick and oh like you you you literally do not know what the future holds for you until like you just have to heat rent away, but you need to be somewhere like ready, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 59:15

Yeah, yeah, you almost have to like sort of run a line almost, don't you? You can't go too far down, you can't go too high.

Boxing Politics And Being Robbed

SPEAKER_02 59:22

That's it, you can't pay too soon, you can't go off of a wagon, you need to be like it's that's a hard thing to do. And that's what I mean about the life balance of like yes, I'll go and have a wee drink the weekend and maybe go out for dinner and have a few drinks and then go home and back reading Monday morning coaching and working and and not pop like I'm not boxing all the time, I'll be doing high-rax classes, lifting weights, running, boxing, just re bit everything, it keeps me active, keeps me busy, it keeps me fit. If I got a phone call like say you're fitting five weeks, I I'll be riding five weeks. Absolutely. Um so I'll be balanced. It's it's a hard way, like, 'cause people always be telling you shouldn't you be drinking? It's like, why shouldn't you be? When are you fitting again? I'm like, fuck, don't know, but I'll like I'm still fit. 20 calories, drink 20 calories. That's all it is. That's all it is. People fucking hate it anyway, like it's and my weight's good as well, so there's loads of wee things that go into it that I'm always like fucking and and never too far away from it that way. And I know I'm 33 now, like I've probably fucking few years left in me, like but I'll be I'll be ready to go when the call comes, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:27

Yeah, that's good. That's good. What about um like when you talk about the the Barboza when he controversially won?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:38

How like how not only how do you deal with that, but how how like is is that just the end of it? Do you do you just have to go I was robbed and that's it? Like is there no justice? Is there no job?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

We we sent an appeal we sent an appeal to the uh WBO and they just didn't even they didn't even look into it, they just left it, they were just like, um 'cause loads of people say can't open the case because it will open up every other case and you know everyone else will be like fuck I'm gonna put a case in from nineteen fucking ninety six or whatever. It'll go right back to them. It would just be a whole red roll I can't open a case. Just the politics of boxing. Yeah. People said to me religiously about the fight, and I was like, I fucking know what to do, like I don't know why you're still boxing after that fight. Well, what else am I gonna be? It's like you you don't just give up because someone is gonna determine whether you win or lost.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:30

Um you can actually use it in your favour, can't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:32

Yeah, just use it's fuel, it's fuel in the fire. It's fuel in the fire. Fuel that people are paying a fortune for these days. But uh yeah, it just keeps you just you just put it behind you and push you on to something else. Oh, and you get that rematch, I'll never get that rematch. My goal is now just to surpass him and just be like, fuck him, I'll go a different route.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:54

Does he not want it? Because obviously I'll be the same result again.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

I'll beat him again.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:58

Oh, you know you'll beat him, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

Yeah, so just pass just on the next one.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

Yeah. And what will we start recording, will we? I'll start recording now. Get it going.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:11

Fuck what we're talking about. Silence over lad. Pure silence. What do you say is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Um what about uh the the pure jan thing? I was class we touched from me. Like, where did that where did that come from? Did you just think, you know what? It was sort of a big thing I seen it on like TikTok and social media where like influencers were talking about it, and I was like, That's how I found out. Obviously, I knew there was no there was another death or something, and I was like, what the fuck? And then I read and seen the statistics, and I was like, whoa, that's crazy. Scary, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:41

Scary. And like you you have a a girl coming into the world, do you know what I mean? The near future, and it's like uh my wee daughter's just turned five. And basically, like the I've been following the Natalie McNally trail closely, she's uh the girl from Lurgan, um and where like every time I leave Lurgan to go to Belfast or River, I'm driving past the place where she was murdered. I'm driving past the route that your guy took to go to fucking murder her. And it's it it just sort of hit home. It's like it's this is happening on my doorstep. Do you know what I mean? This is happening with your mates down the bar and you just don't know about it because it hasn't got that far yet. And I just got to a point where I was like, I I really fear for my daughter's future living here, like this is the the the worst place for a female to to live.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:35

Like if you look for the same thing, statistically, like it is so scary.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:40

And I just felt helpless and I just genuinely got to a point where I was like, I have a bit of a platform, do you know what I mean? Some people listen to me and and need to use my platform for something good here, do you know what I mean? And um I just I was just like, What what can I do? I feel helpless, but I feel like if I just talk about it, then at least it's opening the the topic of conversation. And then um I just had an idea, I was like, what I would love to sort of sell something or put on a gig or do something and raise money, or you know, and then I just came up with an idea of like having a a pure gent kind of thing where it's like men can wear it with pride, like a badge of honour, yeah. But also uh uh a talking point, you know, because um people were were messaging me and being like, uh, oh good idea, but what if people buy it who are abusers, you know, and it's like you're saying to trust them. And I'm like, well, no, anyone can buy a t-shirt or anyone can print whatever they want in a t-shirt, you know, don't just trust someone because they're wearing whatever on a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

Like, you know, you are an abuser, you're buying you're buying a t-shirt as an abuser, and the money's gone in until what you're saying.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:44

So you're fucking like we had a chat with women's aid and they were saying like the the the amount of things that they have to to spend money on. Like a woman leaves an abused home and she has no phone. She has nothing, she has no means of communication. He says they had like uh I probably got this statistic wrong, but something like five or six children have been born in the women's aid car in the past two or three years from people having no choice but having to flee their home. And they leave their home with nothing. They're that afraid, they're like, I need away from this monster, and they just fucking start walking or get in a car or ring a friend or something, and that's it. Smantling hair, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:23

So yeah, some women live like and it's like It's like racism in a bit. Yeah. How do they get that stage where they'll go, like, I'm too far in here? Yeah. Like to I don't know if it should be if you should be educated or not. It's just people don't know their their own self-worth. People have no self-worth, so they don't know any better. They think that's what they're doing.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:46

And people have been raised saying that every single day. So when they go, Oh, that's how you treat a woman. Do you know? So yeah, it's just up to I think us as men to not only sort of set an example in the home, but also like it starts with your self. It starts with you know I have three older boys now who I'd like to hope have raised well to treat women well and treat them with respect. And um maybe son is 17, he got his first girlfriend, and he's like taking her out for dinner and stuff, and you know, just being a gentleman, open the door and stuff for her, and it's like you can see that first hand. You're like, all right, well, do you know no matter what mistakes I've made in life, that's a good thing that I'm doing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:27

But uh number five kids. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:33

But uh but I I don't know if I'm really sheltered or what in life, but I like even the racism statistics, everything is fucking grim as shit here, like really, really, really bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

I was talking to someone yesterday and I was like, he was asking me about is Tommy McCarthy funny as he's like, Oh he's funny. He's like what like it's just stories, a lot of stories like and he talks about his racism going to Belfast, and like people didn't even know we're being racist because it was just like it's like people were saying stuff that didn't realise. They were like he was saying race crispies and cocoa pops on a stand-up, and I'm like, people don't realise like as kids growing up you were oblivious to people about what was racist, what was racist and what was not. Yeah. And like obviously you're it's like but you're seeing all these fucking far right fucking lunatics just like I know put people out of their homes in the central or each Belfast. I know. Like no foreigners welcome. Yeah, I'm like I know what the fuck is that.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:36

What about the 500 million Irish people around the world? Do you know what I mean? It's like it's quite contradictory, but I mean that's uh yeah, it's another issue, but it's it's uh I because I just see my family and like close friends and stuff, and we're all pretty much like cut from the same cloth, it's like you don't see that, but when you read statistics or watch the news, you're fucking horrified. Like, whereas where we live is it's spectacular, like it's it's unbelievable. And everyone comes here, says the people are the best. Yeah, but it's like but we're not proving that look at it on paper.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:10

I know it's yeah, but we're doing a wee self-defense seminar for it. I've seen that that's brilliant here. Um just came to me. Like when I seen it, I was like, that's fucking weird, we gotta do something like that. Like we like and me and we all McDonald and Lenny to get in the gym, and we're like, Surely there's something we can do for us. Like we we have a fucking a mixed martial arts like facility in our gym, and I have a boxing facility in our gym, and there's a strength facility in our gym. Like we have all this going on, surely we can give back something. And we put the post up saying we'll do like a a a self-defense seminar for women, but the issue lies with men.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:47

Women shouldn't have to go and learn something, but men's need that's better to have than not to have, you know, like it's me. Men men are the ones who need educated on this. Like they need there needs to be a fucking a seminar for men on how not to fucking abuse women, you know what I mean? Yeah, or or why not to abuse women, but um but anything's better than nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:04

It's better sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:05

At the same time, it's better to have that wee bit of something that's gonna give you confidence than maybe walking through the city centre, or because it it doesn't always necessarily have to be domestic abuse, it could be like just in the city centre, feeling comfortable, feeling confident enough to walk through, you know, and I may be able to know how to defend myself here.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:21

Yeah, um because I genuinely like I I was doing 75 hard and I was going out for a walk like a lot of nights, and Dion I was like, That's mad that you can just go for a walk at night, and I was like, What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:34

You never think about that, they just can't do it, they just can't. You don't realise like how privileged you are as a male. Like, I know I know it sounds stupid because women are fucking class too, but like all then we small things that we get the benefits of that women don't, and it's it's sad because like imagine us walking out and getting attacked by old women every day or being afraid of getting attacked by everyone, you'd be you'd never be in there You'll never be in there.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:06

Go in the shop five times a forgotten butter.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:22

But uh yeah, it's fucking it's so like yeah, we like what we put that we thing on. I just put a video on saying it fucking I seen you here. It was like I had Seamus sent me to Pure Jan thing. I was like, fuck, that's mad because I just literally put a video up saying about that's all that's how it starts. And then there was a wee bit of hip run up on the radio and stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:41

And uh and it's the Saturday, isn't it? When's this going out?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:46

This will play out with the Tuesday, but it's about Tuesday, yeah. No, I but we like I put a video up and it was we only opened at the 40 spots. I was like, look, if there's 40 people we'll do 20 and 20, 20 can do the BJJ to learn how to like like grab someone and pull them around and defend against something. Um and I'll teach boxing on how to fucking you know self-defence. Yeah. And uh we'll swap over. So want an hour, 20 people do an hour on the mats, 20 people do an hour remaining, and we'll swap over. I'd put up and then like it was like 75 people opting into we can put a form on, like, an opt-in form and put the details in and that register for the seminar. And there was like 76 people, and I was like, fuck me, you take that down because this is over way overpowered. We can't like we can't do this with just two coaches. Yeah. We have the space, but we don't have the resources like to do it like that because we hadn't even really thought out that much. Um so now we had to put a second deal on, which is gonna be the 30th of May, which is is is class, because after I stopped it, they might the people messaged me saying, Where's the form? I didn't get it. Yeah. And I'm like, I'll put another one up, don't worry.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:50

Same with me with the t-shirts too. So it's we've had to put the t-shirts back on sale because people everybody who bought one in the three or four days that they came out, they all got posted maybe in the past week or two. So then now I all have their t-shirts. So people are going, Where'd you get your t-shirt or what's that about? And then they're going on messaging, going, Can I get one or whatever? So it's the same kind of thing. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

There's no harm in it. It's good to have more but it's like it's it's a shame that there's so many women feel that way at the same time. And then it's look, it's obviously beneficial to go and learn something anyway to be safe on the safe side, but and confidence and you know, just like it's a good idea. Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it, like just uh just a just to see. You may hear all different stories and it's it's sad that it's sad to come to it. Like, and as I always say, the issue lies with me, and it's just probably a bit of it is like trying to see like the red flags early on. If there's any sort of like temper or like early on or later in shit, that's your like bump, just drop a shoulder for it.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:45

We're calling it out too, do you know me? When you see mates sort of being inappropriate and being horrible or just say it as a man, as a man, another man be like, fuck, settle ahead here, like it's uh it's a scary world, like, but yeah, hopefully just people people more people can come up with ideas like with me and you have done. Do you know what I mean? And just try and make it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:06

The more people thought about it, yeah, and the more men thought about it being like not normal, yeah, then the more people are gonna feel like you know because let's say for example you like me and you're in a bar and one of our f like your friend comes in and he he's like he's he does it, he's he's in the odds that he he he's basically putting his wife or his partner through the hard time. His wife knows me and you stand against that, but he's coming home from the bar from being with me and you, she's gonna be like she'll feel that wee bit more comfortable to maybe say to us. Or maybe to be like, like fucking like Sean and Sean would hate that by doing this to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it would make maybe make make him feel like fuck an addict because they're gonna tell we're gonna see me tell us, then they'll be like, what the fuck is that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:56

So you never know what goes on behind closed doors, but and the more people talking about, as you said, you know, people who are maybe going through that can maybe spot anger issues within themselves or can go here, they're right, like this this isn't on, you know, how I am getting on. You know, it's it's it's about calling people out, but it's also about hoping that men recognise sort of behaviours within themselves and they can go and seek help and you say some people don't know any different because that's what they seen.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:23

Yeah. Maybe that's what they seen, and like and that's what they seen before that, and it's just been like, you know, it's just fucked up. It's like comes through the parents, grandparents, maybe that's just how some people have lived. And I was that's a thing, but years ago, I remember Oprah Winfrey put up when it was Sean Penn or something. And he was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like my wife, you know, she needs to slap up sometimes. It's like in the eighties, eighty two or something. The video says nineteen eighty two. And he was like, What? Sometimes like she needs a good slap, she needs to put in her place. And Oprah Winfrey's like, you know, what's this? He's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was 1982. And he's like Yeah, she's like No, I don't know. Like sometimes she'll push and she'll nag and she'll get she'll get a reaction, and I want to reaction, wants a reaction, wants a reaction, boom. Go to slap, I'll get a reaction, and that'll put her on a place. Fucking what the fuck? I was re-circling her like fuck me. It's grammar. That was him in the 80s as a fucking big, big name and and movie like in Hollywood. Like in Dorson? Many people have watched that man. He's right. Yeah, yeah. He's the man.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:28

Yeah. Or their wife's maybe nagging them and they go, Oh, she's getting a slap, she's getting a fucking slap.

Closing Chat And Parenting Chaos

SPEAKER_02 1:15:46

Oh fuck, that's fucking sacral where we're living, but if we can all make it one percent better every day, then we're doing something right now, me. That's it, that's it. But listen, it was a pleasure having you on. Thanks for having me. I appreciate the drive up. It's good, good chat.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:59

Fucking it's a long drive up, but here we are. Time in the in the car without the kids, so it's good. Didn't have to listen to Kipop Damon Hundreds or my son listens to do like like Spongebob theme and Turtles theme and all these here songs, but he's found out that there's fart versions of those songs.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:14

But it's just half an hour different fart noises now. It's just you just don't ideal it.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:19

Man, that's the way he is. But they have to have control of the radio constantly. Yeah, yeah. So it's times like my kids whacking the seatbelt off, jumping through the front, and put this I'm like, put your seatbelt on. And you're squealing. I'm like, put your seatbelt on. He's like, I want to sit in the front, and like sit, you fucking sit down. And he's hanging in like mid-motorway. I'm like, this is fucking killed. Sometimes they just need to get slapped, don't they?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:50

Yeah, it's uh it's they're fucking mental. But uh I I get the point now where it's I don't even know what to listen to anymore. Yeah, that's it. You get the TV remote and you're all what am what do I like?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:06

Here, thanks, Money Man. Good luck, good luck in the future. You'll you'll do it.