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24. Teenage Trouble: Sarah Johnson's Shocking Murders

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Come along as Dani and Stephanie unravel the twisted tale of Sarah Johnson, a 16-year-old Idaho girl who brutally murdered her parents, Alan and Diane Johnson, in their upscale home. Known for her bratty attitude, Sarah's crime left a trail of evidence, from DNA on gloves to blood-spattered bathrobes. The podcast delves into the gripping investigation, messy courtroom drama, and bizarre defense strategies. With testimonies from neighbors, cellmates, and even her brother Matt, this episode of The Lethal Library is a deep dive into teenage rebellion turned deadly. Get ready for an episode full of dark humor and jaw-dropping moments.

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Stephanie:

All right, Danny, so let's just jump right into it. Welcome back to another episode of The Lethal Library. I'm Stephanie. I'm Danny. And we're here to have Danny tell us another story of true crime in Idaho. Spoiler alert. I hear that this time. It's a lady So underrepresented demographic getting the spotlight today.

Dani:

Yes, ma'am. Parents will make a teenager's life uncomfortable sometimes it's necessary. Yeah. In a beautiful, upscale home. Someone thought she was a princess and could do what she wanted. She sounds like a spoiled fucking brat to me. You know, they're, they're out there. Mm-hmm. sources used today, are articles from The Times News, and that bitch, the Idaho Statesman, love her. On October 2nd, 2003 in Bellevue, Idaho at 6 25 in the morning, 16-year-old Sarah Johnson ran out of her house looking for help. She arrived at her neighbor's crying and the neighbor called 9 1 1. She had awoken to two gunshot blasts, and when she called out to her parents, they didn't respond. Alan Johnson, age 46 and Diane Johnson, 52 were found shot in their home. Diane was found in her bed and Alan was found on the bedroom floor. He had apparently been taking a shower when he was shot. Yikes. Both died from a single shot from a rifle. Police did not see any signs of force entry to the home. Four weeks after the murders, still no arrests have been made. Hmm. Police know the murder weapon came from a guest house on the property. Oh. Hmm. But the man who lived there was not even in town at the time of the murders. The authorities are trying to figure out who would've known where to find the guns. Don't be suspicious. Don't be suspicious. Uh, little. Sidestep. you remember the story on Denise Williams? Yeah. Where the sheriff was like. He didn't tell the coroner.

Stephanie:

Yes.

Dani:

Right. Remember? And then he had a different pathologist, uh, do all the stuff a mess. Same thing here. The coroner Mike, uh, Russ Mickel, was not allowed to do the autopsies of the bodies. Blaine County Sheriff, Walt Fleming would not allow it. Fleming removed the bodies and had them taken to a Boise pathologist. Which is not a good

Stephanie:

look, dude. No. Like especially like you have your town or your county mm-hmm. That you're in and it's a little

Dani:

town and it's like this is above your pay grade.

Stephanie:

But yeah, like you could bring in someone for a second opinion or to assist, but that's a bad look if that's your job. And they're like, yeah, we don't trust you. We're not, you're not. We're gonna get it to the real first. Do not even

Dani:

be looking at these bodies. Thank you. Crazy. On October 29th, the daughter of Alan and Diane was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in church, scandalous, and she's held on a$2 million bond. Six 16-year-old Johnson had been staying with her aunt in the Caldwell area since the memorial. It took 57 days for an arrest, but the sheriff wanted to make sure all the evidence was processed correctly before making any arrests. Fair?

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

It was their 16-year-old daughter.

Stephanie:

Yeah, make sure all your ducks are in a row, because I wonder how that works.'cause you're not even supposed to be able to interview minors without their parents in most cases, but. That's a whole nother bag of worms. Yep. Can of worms. Bag of worms. I like it. Let's just, you don't want unexpected worms anywhere. No, let's just say that.

Dani:

But I feel like a bag of worms is way bigger than a can of worms. So gross. Hmm. Blood was found on a glove that matched Johnson's DNA. The glove was found wrapped in a bathrobe that also had Diane's blood on it. Her mother Johnson had a bruised left shoulder that you'll see, uh, from a recoil of a rifle. Yikes.

Stephanie:

You know, especially if you're not a experienced yeah person. That'll get you every time.

Dani:

Oh, that she, yeah. How did authorities even start to suspect the daughter was the murderer? Just a few days before Johnson had not returned home on the night of August 29th, she was found by her parents the following day at her boyfriend's house.

Stephanie:

Uh oh.

Dani:

Bruno Santos was 19, and Alan and Diane were very upset that they were dating, that he was dating their 16-year-old daughter. Understandably. Mm-hmm. They plan to go to law enforcement for an investigation into statutory rape after the holiday weekend was over.

Stephanie:

Yikes. They're like, just wait until this holiday weekend and we're gonna see what the police have to say about this. Yeah.

Dani:

Oh, no. Mm-hmm. Oopsie. Yeah. Alan and Diane also took away Johnson's driving privileges, but she's, she still attended volleyball practice the evening before the murders, so they're like, you're not driving anywhere, but you have to go to Val volleyball. Like, I can totally picture this scenario like, you're fucking grounded. Your life is over. But you have to go to volleyball practice. Yeah.

Stephanie:

I think I've been there as a teenager and maybe even had to enforce stuff like that. Yeah. Which I'm sure you have as well.

Dani:

Yeah. Sorry about shit. Life is miserable. Go cry to your friends at practice. Well, and at least you still have an activity

Stephanie:

other

Dani:

than

Stephanie:

being home

Dani:

on the morning of the killings. Johnson went to the rental house on the property and removed a 2 64 caliber rifle. Mm. Lemme just tell you, I leaned into dad for this. I called him during my research and I'm like, am I saying it right? Well, and I don't know because I Googled it and, and it said you could, some people take, say it's a 2 6 4 or a point. 2, 6, 4. Um, but my dad said it was a 2 64 caliber, 2 64 caliber. Thanks. I'm going with

Stephanie:

dad. Thanks dad. Because really we're not, we're not the experts on that. We've been around guns. We don't know all the dets of everything.

Dani:

I love my dad so much, so he's like, I bet he was

Stephanie:

excited to chat about it. Oh

Dani:

no, he was very, and'cause I wanted to know, I wanted to know how to say this and I also want to know. What size of bullet that would be? Yeah, because I know what a 45 looks like, or a 30, like they're tiny near, but I Googled the image of this size bullet, and it was like one of the, it's the longer one. Ooh, they're almost three and a half inches long. Is it like a hunting rifle? Yeah, it's a hunting rifle. Okay. I'm seeing the picture here. Um, and according to dad. The 2 64 Winchester's a damn good hunting rifle. Alright. Got taste I guess. Thank you. Guest house, man. But yeah, dad was so excited. He goes, well you wanna come over here? I'll show you one

Stephanie:

for

Dani:

your research. Honey, do you, do you wanna set one on the desk

Stephanie:

or you wanna hold it? Let's go shoot it. You can feel

Dani:

that recoil. I got a whole, I got a whole book too. I can tell you all about it. He did show me, by the way, last night, his book and Hell yeah. The little, all the little things about

Stephanie:

it. Anyway, thanks for coming in on the clutch. We needed, we needed a professional. Yeah. Is what we needed. Thanks

Dani:

dad. The sheriff said Johnson was angry and defiant after her arrest. Oh, a pissed off teenager

Stephanie:

And getting arrested too. She's already been grounded. I. Clutch your pearls. Now she's in cuffs.

Dani:

Johnson pleads not guilty on two counts of first degree murder and she's being tried as an adult. Yikes. She showed no emotion while in the courtroom and while waiting her trial. Johnson had some family visit, but not brother Matt nor boyfriend Bruno. Bruno,

Stephanie:

where are you at? You didn't want to come down to the courthouse since you're 19 and your 16-year-old girlfriend is there. You didn't wanna come and check in?

Dani:

Well, I think he was, uh, a little, he was out of town. He was busy that day. He was, no, he really was outta town. I don't know what the date is

Stephanie:

for the court, but I'm busy that day.

Dani:

Actually, he was out of the country for a little bit. Oh shit. So just hang on.

Stephanie:

Indisposed.

Dani:

Definitely indisposed. A gag order was issued by Judge James J. May. Judge may stress that this is not for the media, but for the prosecution, defense and the Sheriff's Department, shut the fuck up

Stephanie:

everyone. Shut your fucking mouths. Thank you.

Dani:

Uh, public defender. Bob Ping Burn was pissed about Sheriff Fleming's public comments about the case in particular, the motive. Fleming explained to the media that Alan had a$450,000 life insurance policy. He's just like, let me just tell you what's going on here. This girl killed her parents for money, and so she could be with her boyfriend like he was just spilling all the juice.

Stephanie:

That's not a good strategy for the prosecutor either.

Dani:

Exactly. You don't need to show all your cards, and Fleming was sh I'm gonna tell you. He is all about publicity. So he was, there's several episodes of like, they're snapped and a 20, 20 and a Dateline. I did not watch them. I was going to, but it's so dramatic. It just, it's a

Stephanie:

different, different. Well, and it sometimes taints how you wanna tell a story, right? So we might watch them after, and if we don't get stuff that the shows get, okay. But we. I know that Danny doesn't like to do that for her research, which I understand. Um, and I don't do it. You don't know Dick Bird out there. Yeah. Do you guys know about Dick Bird? If not, look it up. It's, it's, it's a something. Richard Bird.

Dani:

Yeah. From Winnemucca?

Stephanie:

Yes. And it happened on nine 11 of 2001, so no one had ever heard of him. And you know, go check it out. Check out the podcasts about that. Yeah. And you'll understand. Why we don't want too many outside influences.

Dani:

No, because it can go bad and it has went bad for other podcasters. So yeah. just the facts, ma'am. And I read papers, so, but anyway, he was just spilling, they were spilling guts. They were, and no point to it. No. beneficial Life Company asked the Fifth Judicial Court to withhold$225,000 of that death benefit of the claim, which was Johnson's portion of the policy.'cause it was split 50 50 between her and her brother, Matt already received his portion. So the Beneficial Life Committee is like, uh. If she's being accused of murdering her parents. Let's just

Stephanie:

take a pause on that. Sure. Matt, you're, you're good to go. Um, we're gonna wait on the other though.

Dani:

Mm-hmm. Bruno Santos is deported to Mexico in September. Oh, no. Unavailable. but was quickly brought back so that he can testify in the case. So like, oh no, just jk. Uh.

Stephanie:

Actually, sorry. If you would, can you just come back just for a quick bit just to Yeah, just to sit. Thank you. Thanks. Sorry. Thank you so much. We rushed

Dani:

to judgment and just said, oh, you're undocumented by, no, we actually need you. So yeah, maybe

Stephanie:

they should have had these ducks in a row.'cause imagine how hard it is to get someone back for this reason. Are you kidding me? That's'cause like, sure.'cause he did come back. Well, thanks Bruno.

Dani:

The prosecution and the defense team are at each other's throats. I They hate each other. Ooh. And you're gonna just, they are fighting.

Stephanie:

The girls are fighting. This is like some reality TV shit. I love. The girls are

Dani:

fighting. The defense is asking why Johnson was transferred from Blaine County jail to a burley lockup for a week, and then Johnson was moved because she had told a fellow inmate incriminating facts about the murder. So like, you can't be with her. attorney Bob Ping Burn said Johnson had made no such statement. So this is all out in the public. They're like, she's, uh, made incriminating statements to a fellow inmate, and then attorney Bob's like, no, she didn't. This is all just being puked out.

Stephanie:

Yeah. This should not be being done in the press. This is all courtroom stuff. I mean, it's nice if you're following a case because you're like, I wanna know. Of course it's very juicy, but it doesn't really benefit anyone like. As far as s, it benefits us, but that's it. Right, exactly.

Dani:

In 2004, defense attorney Bob is asking for Johnson's statements that were made the day of the murder be inadmissible. He said Johnson was under the influence of a sleeping pill a neighbor had given her that morning'cause she was so overwhelmed. Okay. Prosecutor Thomas said she was probably tired because she was up all night planning her parents' murder. You know, this is her, or this is why they hated each other. This is all public comments, like what are they doing? Like, no, she's not tired from the sleeping pills. She was tired because she was up all night planning her parents' murders. Attorney Bob states that she was improperly questioned and ignored her rights to an attorney on September 3rd and September 12th. Sheriff Fleming said she agreed to speak without an attorney quote. She said she had an attorney and she said he told her not to talk to us. I said she could have him here, but I asked her if she'd just like to clear this up and catch whoever did, whoever did this, and she said yes. Well. In a motion filed in October, attorney Bob said that Johnson is wrongly beaten, kept in solitary confinement. Oh no. And he is asked that she be immediately removed. So these are small counties, small jails over there, and. Even though she's being charged as an adult, she's still 16 slash 17. Right? Right. So by law they have to keep her away from other, it's, it's some drama. Yeah. Johnson had been moved from Blaine County Jail to the mini cashier jail to make room for another defendant that was scheduled for a hearing. Mini cashier does not have a separate facility to keep Johnson away from adult inmates, which is required by law. And this is why she was in solitary. That's how tiny this gel is. Yeah. Like, oh, we have somebody else coming in, uh, for a hearing, so we gotta move you. So

Stephanie:

attorney Bob was pissed. He was chasing around his, he was passed,

Dani:

where's my

Stephanie:

client?

Dani:

In November, attorney Bob revealed in court proceedings that boyfriend Santos remains a suspect and has committed crimes recently.

Stephanie:

Oh, Bruno Santos, what were you out here doing?

Dani:

Well, he just got back. He's feeling good in a separate hearing. The same day Santos was in front of a judge on charges of having controlled substances. Oh gosh, this is not good. You know, kind of part. Part of me thinks that he was like, they want me here. Fuck it. Let's go. Yeah, I'm gonna do what I want.

Stephanie:

Full vacation.

Dani:

They're not gonna deport me. They need me. They need me. Yeah. Prosecutor Thomas asked for Santos to be held so he can testify in Johnson's trial. They're like, oh, okay, well no more going back to your mama's apartment. You're on lockdown. Santos was facing charges resulting from 17 grams of meth. Police found in his possession on October 30th. Yikes. And I have no idea if that's a lot or not. Is it? I think it's a lot. Is 17 grams a lot? I think it's a lot. We go waste some flour on my scale in the kitchen. Let's get out the kitchen scale. We need to see a visual on this attorney. Bob is asking to examine the gloves and the robe. The prosecution was claiming that Johnson wore the night she murdered her parents. He said there's a vast difference between the evidence the defense is allowed to examine and what is allowed to be admitted as evidence. Johnson's Aunt Linda Vivo. Hope I said that right. Linda said, during a a hearing, she suspected Johnson had committed the murders attorney. Bobs asked her when she changed her mind.'cause at first Auntie Linda was like, oh, come live with me. I'll take care of you. Poor thing. but Linda said it was a gradual mind change for her. She had thought Santos committed the murders in earlier testimony, so she did not think it was her beautiful bratty fucking niece.

Stephanie:

No,

Dani:

it was the 19-year-old boy. Sure. So we are now in 2005, in January, 2005, fifth District Judge Barry Wood moved the trial to Boise where an ADA county jury will hear the case. The trial is scheduled to start on February 7th and is expected to last six to eight weeks. Damn Biggin. and attorney Bob is on it. He said it was unlikely to find an unbiased jury in Blaine County based on the results from a questionnaire sent to potential jurors since December. Like now we, yeah, we know all about this. We want the ADA County jury. Thank you. that's why Kohlberg's down here too. Yeah. Exact same reason. Blaine County prosecutor, Jim Thomas said he was down for the ADA County jurors, but he wanted the trial to stay in Blaine County. It's all about the money, money, money. Yeah, it is. And this is because, and also this is because of all the trouble. It'll cause he will have to issue new subpoenas to appear in Boise for witnesses plus lodging for not only the witnesses but for all the county officials. And just to kind of give you an idea, Blaine County's population was around 21,000 people in 2003. And we don't have little counties here in Idaho. They're large. They're large. And this was very prominent in their news. And so everybody knew about this. Yeah. Yeah. That's why those questionnaires are like, Nope, this is not, you're not gonna find this isn't looking good. And, uh, you know, you don't want a mistrial because of that. But also it does these little, like they are doing tax levies to cover these kind of trials. Mm-hmm. It's a big deal. I'd be pissed and it probably, I don't, I've never had that come across here. Probably be pissed if I had to pay an extra$125 because some asshole went and did a murder. Went and did a murder

Stephanie:

just to make sure they were convicted and off the

Dani:

streets.

Stephanie:

Do not murder in our town. Boom.

Dani:

The trial begins on February 8th. In opening statements, the prosecution showed a gruesome crime scene. Johnson's now 18, by the way. She growed up. She's an adult now. Prosecutor Thomas said quote, this case is not about an unknown killer. This case is about evidence left behind by Sarah Marie Johnson. He stated, evidence will include a bullet impact in the bedroom, shower stall, footprints in the grass. An inconsistent statement spa made by Johnson. A hunting rifle on the floor of the master bedroom was found with a crucifix on top of it that had fallen from the wall. That's

Stephanie:

wild.

Dani:

I seen the pictures. It's creepy.

Stephanie:

And didn't you say that the parents were very religious?

Dani:

Yeah, very religious. He also said a lot of evidence was in that, in those trash cans that were scheduled to be picked up that morning, they yanked them

Stephanie:

right back. Oh, can you imagine if you were at the scene and you were the killer and seen them yanked back, like, ha, shucks, damnit. And I wouldn't have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky officers. You're just like, well, sorry. Not my,

Dani:

not my pink robe. Oh. Um.'cause as the garbage truck approached the home that morning, police grabbed the bands and pulled them behind the yellow police tape, like yank the truck was coming. She's like,

Stephanie:

oh, come on, come on, come on. Good thinking. I mean, because I could totally picture. A whoopsie happening. I'm sure something like that's happened before where they're like, you didn't see the trash cans out front that Yeah. They're already on the way to the landfill.

Dani:

Sorry.

Stephanie:

Good luck.

Dani:

Smoke. I think they might have found some shit, but not as good. You probably could have Yeah. But not as good of, because also found in the trash can was a, blood spattered pink rope wrapped inside of that robe were bullet casings. Oh. Oh. Opie also found in the trash cans were pregnancy test. This is getting really evidence. Yeah. Well, she's a, she's a stupid 16-year-old, that thinks they know everything. Yeah. Thomas said that this was proof that Johnson and Santos had a sexual relationship that her parents didn't prove of. Obviously if she thought she was pregnant, you know,

Stephanie:

such a weird thing that she wrapped the bullet casings in the robe and put them there, but left the gun.

Dani:

What's the point? Well, because she was wearing those fucking gloves, sis.

Stephanie:

I'm, I'm gonna get away with it. I got these rubber gloves just for the occasion. Nobody's gonna catch me. I saw This is how they do it in the movies. She's got gloves. Pick up the casings, leave the gun. Mm-hmm.

Dani:

prosecutor Thomas said that Johnson was livid, that her parents wanted to turn Santos into the authorities for statutory rape. Quote, we don't have to prove motive. We know Sarah was dating a 19-year-old Bruno Santos. She was 16. She was obsessed with him. It was a very heavy, very sexual relationship. Alan and Diane did not approve of this relationship. They wanted it stopped. Thomas also claimed that Johnson tried to pin the murders on a disgruntled cleaning lady.

Stephanie:

How rude. She's

Dani:

such a fucking bra dude. He said Santos came back to Idaho after being deported to Mexico to testify. Quote, he provided us access to his home, his car, his DNA. He said, here you go. Wasn't me. Literally wasn't me. He's like this crazy bitch. It wasn't me. Yeah. Search my car. Like,

Stephanie:

whoa, whoa,

Dani:

whoa, whoa, whoa. I wasn't signing up for this. Kind of crazy like he was sneaking out and coming and hanging out with me over the weekend. Ette, uh, murder? No.

Stephanie:

Yeah, not into it. I really

Dani:

don't believe he knew anything. I think she was just, he

Stephanie:

was a sweet little surprise she had for him.

Dani:

Guess what? My parents are dead, so now we're free. We can date and do whatever and oh, by the way, got life insurance so we're set. La ya. Yikes. I don't think he was up for this at all.

Stephanie:

No. He's like, I didn't know we were at that stage in our relationship. Wow. Oh, is this mean we're committed?

Dani:

Oh, I

Stephanie:

thought we were

Dani:

just dating. Mm-hmm. No, I thought you're little. You're my little side piece.

Stephanie:

Right. He's like, oh, I did not know you were that serious. Okay. Okay. Noted. Um, wows, yikes.

Dani:

Johnson burst into tears twice on the first day of the trial. Mm. Oh, because you got caught? Uh, no. Once when the prosecutor was describing the bedroom scene, and again, when they played the nine one one call made by the neighbor. Let's hear some testimony from Ms. Sarah. Uh, no. We're, um, not yet. We're, we're gonna be talking about some neighbors here. Okay. Lots of neighbors are gonna come up. They, every neighbor, they, I feel like they called up. Did you hear anything right? Neighbor, Kim Richards testified that Johnson came running over to her house that morning. Quote, she was screaming. She said someone shot her dad, someone shot her parents. Johnson had told Kim that she heard shots, but didn't say she saw someone shoot her parents or see their bodies. According to the neighbor, Johnson assumed they had been shot after hearing the gunshots because they didn't answer when she called for them. A couple of times Kim said it didn't look like Johnson had just gotten outta bed either her clothes weren't wrinkled and her hair was not messy. She'd been up all night preparing. Well, she, when I read it in the paper it said, and her hair wasn't askew. I'm like, I can't use that word. It's not my vocab. Kim's husband, Timothy also testified, and this is such Idaho dude, right? Like he said, yeah, when I went over to the house, check on the couple, like, excuse me. Say what?

Stephanie:

Just walks right in.

Dani:

He's like, oh, howdy neighbors. There's gunshots. I'm gonna go check that out. Not me. No, I'm calling the police. Mm-hmm. And waiting for the police too. Yeah. I'm not nowhere near there. Uh, when he went to the house to check on the couple quote, there was an odor, it was sour. There were debris, pieces of hair, skin. A sogginess under my feet. Oh, no. From the visual I saw, I knew something was terribly wrong. Yeah. Oh,

Stephanie:

that was very descriptive.

Dani:

It was. And he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna go check it out. You stay here, I hun. Call the cops. I'm gonna go over and check it out. Okay. No, Jared would do that.

Stephanie:

Probably

Dani:

Rick.

Stephanie:

Yeah, he would. Yeah.

Dani:

I'd be like, no, don't go. Can you just stay? Hey, Johnsons you home? What's going on in here? Oh shit. No, I would not be going.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm.

Dani:

On day two of the trial, Johnson is breaking down again. Uncontrollable sobbing. Caused the judge wood to order a 20 minute break so she could compose herself. Bellevue Marshall Temple Tremble testified that the crime scene. And took him aback when he saw the bodies and the large amount of blood. Quote. There was quite a bit of carnage. He stated, the marshal said he found Alan Johnson lying face down on the floor, still wet from taking a shower. Diane was in bed under the covers just as if a person was sleeping. On cross-examination, the marshal was asked if he saw a bullet hole in the quilt over Diane. His response, no, I did not see a hole. My concentration was on what I was going to find underneath.

Stephanie:

He's like, yeah, no, I wasn't looking for that.

Dani:

No, there's blood everywhere. I just

Stephanie:

got here, bro.

Dani:

He also went through several pieces of evidence, one of them being that the clothing that Johnson was wearing the morning of the murders. When he asked if he had noticed any blood on the clothing that morning, he said no. Marshall Trimble also told the investigators about the, uh, how he found the latex glove. A brown left-handed glove,

Stephanie:

oh my gosh.

Dani:

And five bullets wrapped up in a pink bathroom in the trash can in the front of the house. Bitch couldn't even be bothered to find a matching pair of gloves. She's like this winter glove

Stephanie:

and a latex glove done. That'll do. Maybe she was trying the double glove and they didn't find the other ones. Who knows?

Dani:

I just find that

Stephanie:

odd. It is odd.

Dani:

Like, oh, she probably found that ex, that one the real glove, not the latex glove. Probably in like their missing mittens. Like we all have, we all have the missing sock drawer slash thing, eh. Okay. But there was no missing left-handed one, so then she's like, fuck, fine. I guess I'll go to cleaning. I'll go a lie. Test club, cleaning room. a police officer from the Haley Police Department testified. That he was searching the back of backyard when he noticed footprints in the lawn leading from the house to an area near some shrubs. So dew it's a thing. Mm-hmm. You step on it, you leave footprints and this is the perfect time of year, September. Oh yeah. Its getting cool enough at night to produce that dew

Stephanie:

and then you can, it's like having a little bit of snow on the ground. Yeah.

Dani:

They can totally see by the shrubs. Several footprints were found that appeared to be someone standing in the same place. So he watched these little footprints and then there was like a T down area of somebody pacing back and forth, you know? Hmm. Shuffling their feet from that area. You could look into the master bedroom.

Stephanie:

Interesting.

Dani:

And she was like, are you guys gonna fucking go to bed already? Mm-hmm. Or do I have the balls to do this?

Stephanie:

Probably both.

Dani:

Either way. You're dick.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

The officer also stated that when he spoke with Johnson that morning, she said she had been asleep for several hours. When she was awakened by the sound of a gunshot, she wasn't sure if it was real or if she was dreaming, so she went back to sleep. Okay, I'm getting up. I'm getting up, I'm getting up with

Stephanie:

that loud of a gunshot.

Dani:

She heard a second gunshot and then went to her parents' room door. She called out for her mother, but got no reply. Johnson told him she heard the shower running in the master bedroom and she was afraid. So she went running out of the house and that's when she heard a body falling and a scream door closing at the same time.

Stephanie:

At the same time,

Dani:

bionic fucking hearing.

Stephanie:

I. You just know that it's, you don't know if it's a gunshot or not, but you know the sound of a body falling and the screen door happening at the same time simultaneously.

Dani:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

That's quite interesting.

Dani:

I'm sorry, I'm just like, are you fucking, that's what she said. Okay. The officer said Johnson was crying that morning, but never asked if her parents were, okay, this is a dead giveaway sign. Mm-hmm. This dead giveaway, because maybe you know what's

Stephanie:

really going on. Like, oh, I was too scared to go in there and see what was going on, but I don't wanna ask anyone that's been in there, what's going on?

Dani:

Sorry. If somebody you lived with, you got shot and you heard a gunshot didn't respond, and you went running outta the house to call the police saying somebody shot. Mm-hmm. Wouldn't your first question after the police came, after they were at the house would be like.

Stephanie:

Happened? What's going on? Yeah.

Dani:

What happened? Are they okay? What's going on? Are they okay? No, she didn't because she knew they were dead because she shot them.

Stephanie:

She didn't plan out the whole acting part. Mm-hmm. Far out enough in advance. Oh, that's

Dani:

that development of the brain

Stephanie:

frontal lobe.

Dani:

On day three again, Johnson is crying after seeing a bloody crime scene photo, judge Wood warned her to stop because she was becoming disruptive. He said the moaning, crying and nose blowing would have to stop so the trial could be conducted in a manner that is not disruptive.

Stephanie:

Told her,

Dani:

suck it up buttercup.

Stephanie:

He said, yeah, we've, we've had enough. Pull it together.

Dani:

Yeah, you did this. Attorney Bob asked if Johnson could be removed from the courtroom when gruesome evidence was shown and the judge allowed this. Probably just to save time.

Stephanie:

Yeah. Like can we just stop this whole runaround? Just fucking,

Dani:

okay. We're showing, we're showing another crime scene photo where you shot your fucking parents, get her out. You wanna leave. Okay. Pictures and evidence showed blood spatters and brain matter on the carpet, walls and ceilings. Thises is a brutal, brutal. This is a little bit more descriptive than we get.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

But it was a big part of the court case.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm.

Dani:

They wanted to show how, how brutal this was and because I think that they were, you're looking at a child, essentially.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm. And a rifle though. Yeah. Close range. That will mess you up.

Dani:

Yeah, it was a lot. Detective Steve Harkins testified when he spoke to Johnson that morning, he did not consider her a suspect, but after learning of the evidence being collected, he returned to speak to her again. This time as a suspect, it's like, Hey, about that. Uh, you ever seen a pink robe before? Have you? Who? Whose could that be? Hmm. Pregnancy test. What's going on here? Harkin said he read Johnson her rights and asked her if she understood, quote, she understood her rights and never said she wanted to speak to a lawyer.

Stephanie:

There you go.

Dani:

Harkins was asking Johnson about the pink bathrobe and if she had ever worn latex gloves and she goes, yeah, when I was younger, back when I was a kid, duh. I mean, I wore latex gloves all the time when I was younger. Who

Stephanie:

doesn't?

Dani:

No, that's such a way. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Stephanie:

She's like, maybe at some point in my life. Yeah, I, I did do that for back in the day.

Dani:

cause you know, I clean, I what?

Stephanie:

She was blaming shit on the maid. She ain't cleaning anything. No, she's not.

Dani:

he then asked her If she had thrown anything away lately and she responded, she quote, would never kill her parents

Stephanie:

logical answer. I'm surprised she didn't come back with a, I mean, I've thrown things away before, like back in the day. I've done, I've thrown something away before. Sure. I mean,

Dani:

this is my second bloody pink robe I've thrown away. Right. What's the big deal? Detective Harkins asked her about the bullets found in her bedroom and she told them she wasn't involved and they became upset and said she hated guns more than anything.

Stephanie:

Oh, okay.

Dani:

I feel like this kind of ob, the upset she got was getting busted. Upset. We've all seen that in kids.

Stephanie:

Oh yeah. I hate guns. How dare you?

Dani:

I hate coloring cramps. I would never call her on the wall.

Stephanie:

Yeah, exactly.

Dani:

The detective said Johnson had tried to shift suspicion to the family's cleaning lady. Rude. She said the woman had taken things from her home and her mother was about to file a police report.

Stephanie:

Convenient.

Dani:

Very. Johnson also told authorities that she was having issues with her parents after they caught her staying at her boyfriend's house. detective Harkin said that he has personally spoke with Bruno Santos more than a hundred times. Santos has been a person of interest since the beginning of the investigation on cross-examination. Attorney Bob is really pushing for Santos to be like an alternative.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm.

Dani:

He asked if Harkin was aware of Santos drug use and gain connection. Harkin's response was, they had looked into Santos pretty extensively and that he had no information that Santos was in a gang. He said Santos worked at the Burger Grill and Kechum and doesn't have a fancy car. This, so this mentality back then, like you're a drug dealer, gotta

Stephanie:

have a fancy Yeah. He doesn't have a private plane.

Dani:

Uh, when attorney Bob asked about the tattoo of the letters BS on Santos hands, harkens replied. He thought it stood for Bruno Santos.

Stephanie:

I mean, it's not a game, it tracks.

Dani:

He was trying to get him affiliated with a gang. It was like. The detective's like, no, it's, it's his initials. Dumb ass.

Stephanie:

Dumb ass.

Dani:

Taking the dog. Dumb ass. Harkins testified that Johnson herself said that Santos was not known to be violent and she didn't believe that he was involved in the crime.

Stephanie:

Oh, even saving the boyfriend, right? Not the maid, but the boyfriend. Yeah. They're gonna run away together.

Dani:

Married forever, true love. XO XO Glenn Groin, A forensic pathologist with Ada County testified Alan had been shot through the left chest and that the bullet had exited through his back. He said that type of injury would not immediately incapacitate him. He thought Alan was able to live long enough to walk from the shower where he was shot into the bedroom before bleeding to death. Oh God. Because there was, there was only two bullets fired and they found a bullet hole in the shower. He was in the shower. Oh,

Stephanie:

that's nasty work. And

Dani:

then, but he got out like, oh my God, I'm shot. Yeah. He got out and walked to the bedroom. He was found next to the bed where Diane was already dead. I wonder, I wonder if he heard that first shot and was like getting, like

Stephanie:

getting ready to get out anyway. Have

Dani:

you ever been in the shower and like heard something and you're like, pull it back? Yes. And like, listen,

Stephanie:

like, what the hell was that? Yeah, I bet it was scary. It was probably so loud.

Dani:

Yeah. And then. Diane's autopsy showed she died of a massive head injury caused by a gunshot.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

The jurors are bused from Ada County to Blaine County for a visit to the Johnson home.

Stephanie:

Oh, wow. Quite the field trip. I'd be pissed.

Dani:

Don't put me on a bus for five hours. Like, can we just take cars?

Stephanie:

Could you do a video? Can you show me a video?

Dani:

Uh uh And they were taken in two different groups by the bailiff and they walked through the house and everybody was there. The attorneys, the judge. Mm-hmm. But they all just sit outside and they could walk through and actually see. And I for for context, cause there's gonna be some more testimony. I can understand it. Nearly a dozen neighbors testified about what they heard or seen the morning of the murders. This is what I was telling. They were

Stephanie:

all chatting,

Dani:

heard, uh, one said they heard rifle shots around six 20 and then heard screams. Another testified she woke up to her dog growling and staring out of a window and then she heard a scream. Look, I love my dogs. Like I'm down. I'm, if I'm laying in bed and my dog barks at night, it sketches me out. Mm-hmm. Because they're hearing something. Dorothy Chanel. Eh,

Stephanie:

sounds nice.

Dani:

Who lived next door? Testified that Johnson had stayed with her in 2003 when Alan and Diane were out of town. She said Johnson told her how difficult it was to live with her mother. Quote, Sarah said she had a, she absolutely couldn't stand her mother.

Stephanie:

Typical.

Dani:

Yeah. You're 16. Dorothy also described a day back in the summer of 2003 when she heard Diane weeping on the back patio. Diane was saying, it's always all my fault. Everything that goes wrong is always my fault. She then heard Johnson screaming inside the house and Alan telling her to go out and apologize to her mother.

Stephanie:

Yikes. So the neighbors knew things were brat. Yeah.

Dani:

Brat. Prosecutors asked the neighbors if they heard any voices, noises, cars, dogs barking between the hours of two and 2:30 AM that morning. Why? Johnson had told investigators that her whole family had been woke up at that time after they heard voices in the backyard. Johnson said. Diane said one of the voices sounded like the family's cleaning lady.

Stephanie:

Oh, of course.

Dani:

Gotta drag her back into this, don't ya, you little fucking bitch. I'm sorry

Stephanie:

the planning was not there. Mm.

Dani:

Sheriff Fleming testified that the crime. Was not so well planned and a lot of evidence was left. You nailed it. Oopsie. Yeah. He said there was even staged evidence. Oh, this is bizarro. Two large kitchen knives were found Blade to blade at the foot of Alan and Diane's bed.

Stephanie:

Okay.

Dani:

I saw these pictures. It was the weirdest fucking thing. It's like two nights like pointing at each other. Yeah. It was the boyfriend, Bruno Santos took the stand. Santos said Johnson was his girlfriend of about three months.

Stephanie:

This has escalated way too fast.

Dani:

He's like, bitch, we're just, we're just hanging out and fucking I don't, yeah. Don't go. How to kill about it. prosecutor Thomas asked him about the night Alan came looking for Johnson. Oh yeah. Santos said Alan threatened him. The quote, he told me if I didn't leave his daughter alone, he would hit me and put me in jail. Very up friend about

Stephanie:

it.

Dani:

The English is not his first language. Mm-hmm. And there was an interpreter for a lot of this, so that's why it sounded So

Stephanie:

Does Sarah speak Spanish English? What's really happening here?

Dani:

I think speak English. She's like I in Spanish one English. But still, it was probably just from that response.'cause that was a quote, I feel like it was broken English. Sure. And so I just wanted to say like, I don't want him to sound like he's not intelligent or anything. That's why I said that. Mm-hmm. Because it was very direct and simple.

Stephanie:

Yeah. But hit me and I'm going to jail.

Dani:

Yeah. He said he saw Johnson at uh, a volleyball game the following Monday, and she was acting a little weird. Johnson told him her parents had grounded her because of the incident. Duh. Santos said he found out about the murders from his cousin and he went to Johnson's house when I got there and an officer asked who I was and I said I was Sarah's boyfriend. They told me to get out of the car and they arrested me.

Stephanie:

Wow. Immediate, because they can't be a

Dani:

19-year-old. Uh, plus I bet by the time he showed up

Stephanie:

that

Dani:

they already knew they saw

Stephanie:

the robe.

Dani:

Yeah. Something was fishy.

Stephanie:

They're like, yeah, why don't you come with us too.

Dani:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

Glad you showed up. Thanks. Thanks for stopping by.

Dani:

The man who was renting the small house on the on the property testified. Male Spiegel said he had a collection of guns and some ammunition stored in a closet, and it was covered with clothing quote. So if anyone was looking in the closet, they wouldn't notice'em. Mm-hmm.

Stephanie:

Not if you're a Snoopy teenager. Exactly.

Dani:

He also said no one outside of the Johnson's family knew where his guns were. One of Mel's guns, a 2 64 Magnum deer rifle was the murder weapon. The housekeeper, Janet Hilton. This is so sad. So you've talked about the housekeeper several times. She testified she had cleaned the Johnson's home on August 26th. And this was a referral from either a cousin or an aunt, like I got this cleaning lady kind of thing. Sure. So that's how she got the gig. She said she had not stolen anything from the home, but defense attorney Rader, who's another defense attorney, was trying to put doubt into the jury during her cross examination. Janet was questions about her two felony convictions in 1998. Grand Theft auto, an assault and battery, and a correctional officer. Janet had served five years in prison and just been released in 2003.

Stephanie:

Yikes. So she knows it's not looking good. I mean, there's so much evidence it's not a huge deal, but when you have someone pointing the finger at you and you just got outta jail, you're like, great.

Dani:

Fuck. Fuck my life. I would seriously this little

Stephanie:

16-year-old girl,

Dani:

she's like, hmm. Um, Janet was also asked about her history of drug use and the prosecution did not re like question her, what do they call it? Redirect. Thank you.'cause she was a mess. She was so upset. She left the ta the stand in tears because she, here she is. Like, I've gotta, I, yes, I get shit. I'm trying

Stephanie:

to do stuff the right way

Dani:

and this little fucking brat drags me into this saying that I stole and you're asking me all about my pa because it's hard. Like if you're trying to, you don't wanna present yourself as you don't walk up and be like, hi. I was in jail for five years. Like, you know, you don't do that. No, she worked anyway. I felt bad for her.

Stephanie:

Yeah,

Dani:

I did. a fingerprint analyst, said she could not recover any identifiable fingerprints from the murder, murder weapon. the boxes of ammunition or the two large knives that were found,

Stephanie:

she had those mismatched gloves.

Dani:

Exactly. And you know, the defense is clinging on this.

Stephanie:

Oh, I bet. They're one strand of hope.

Dani:

There's actually another one, two. Okay. So I'm, yeah, it's come. Megan Sby, a lifelong friend of Johnson's testified that Johnson was more worried about her boyfriend than her parents in the two days following the murder.

Stephanie:

That doesn't look good.

Dani:

How'd that go for you bestie? A DNA expert testified Johnson's DNA was found on a right-handed latex glove, a left-handed leather glove, and the pink bathrobe,

Stephanie:

so it's your robe, honey, your gloves.

Dani:

The blood on the ma bathrobe matched Diane's. They also had gun residue on them. Shocker Cha Chink. Diane's sister, Linda testified about the weekend of the murders. She said her and her husband came to spend the Labor Day weekend with them in Bellevue, and they were there for all that drama with Santos.

Stephanie:

Oh gosh,

Dani:

yeah. Uh, Linda stated, Diane said she thought it was inappropriate. A 19-year-old dropout dating Sarah. It is because these guys were, you know, they had money and. She also told Linda that she had planned on talking with the marshal on Tuesday about filing statutory rape charges against Santos.'cause it was a holiday weekend.

Stephanie:

She was like, yeah, I don't wanna bother him on Labor Day. We'll get to it after the holiday.

Dani:

Probably nobody was

Stephanie:

working. Right.

Dani:

that was the last conversation Linda had with her sister.

Stephanie:

Oh gosh.

Dani:

That pissed me off. Mm-hmm. Like our last conversation was talking about what a miserable shit your daughter was and then she murdered you. Right. Ugh. Johnson went to live with Linda after the murders. Linda said Johnson's behavior was inappropriate. Quote. We would be talking about Alan and Diane and she would be upset and roll her eyes and act disgusted. Oh. Like, don't bother me with your fucking drama. quote during the service for Alan and Diane. Johnson asked to attend a volleyball game later that evening.

Stephanie:

Okay? It says, you're not doing very well here. You're not playing the part very well.

Dani:

Mm. Shante Coddle, another friend of Johnson said, Johnson came to volleyball practice the day after the shootings and showed her two rings. Johnson told her she and Santos were engaged and that she was having sex with him.

Stephanie:

Scandalous, very scandalous. And also, why did you have both rings? Are you sure you're engaged? Does he know that you're engaged? Does he have any idea what's going on?

Dani:

Because I just think you were like, yeah,

Stephanie:

this is wild.

Dani:

Quote, Sarah told us that she and her brother would be taken care of the rest of their life. When someone asked about an inheritance. Lorna Ash Johnson's godmother testified Johnson seemed detached and concerned about herself after the murders quote. She was more concerned about getting her nails and her hair done. Sarah got upset that investigators had cut her thumbnail off for evidence. Oh.

Stephanie:

How dare they proms coming up. Oh my God. Well, and I think that the, you said a little earlier that someone asked her like, about inheritance and she's like, oh, me and my brother will be taken care of for life if it's the day after my parents were killed. And you asked me like, are you getting like an inheritance or something? I think that your normal reaction would be to be incredibly offended,

Dani:

go fuck yourself.

Stephanie:

Yeah. Like why would you ask me that?

Dani:

No, I'm good. Yeah. I'm so good. No, we're

Stephanie:

gonna, we're gonna be just fine. Don't you worry. So strange.

Dani:

Remember the cellmate? Mm-hmm. She's here. This bitch. Don't give a fuck. And I like her.

Stephanie:

Let's hear it.

Dani:

I just will have to tell you. And when I was doing my research, they said her profanity laced testimony, so love it. Um, of course I didn't reprint that in the newspapers, but just imagine her getting a little creative with some of her words. A gal

Stephanie:

after our own heart.

Dani:

Exactly. I actually do cuss a little. Melinda Gonzalez was jailed on drug charges and shared a cell with Johnson for months after her arrest. Melinda testified Johnson called her mother vulgar names. I'm sure she said exactly what names in court. Yeah, she's under,

Stephanie:

she's under oath. She has a duty.

Dani:

Yeah. and often said she would go into knock down, drag out fights with her mother. She said Johnson had pinned the murder on her brother. Fucking poor brother, whom she accused of taking money from the family. Quote. I would ask her questions over and over and over again. One time we were talking and she said, when I killed, I mean when the killers killed my parents, oops, Melinda had your number bitch. She knew you were a snakey.

Stephanie:

She's like, what else can I get out of this girl because I'm about to get some years off my sentence.

Dani:

Melinda was not impressed with the defense team. She often sneered and pushed back on cross examination. Get it

Stephanie:

girl.

Dani:

One attorney Bob asked if she received anything in exchange for testimony. She laughed. He asked her, this is a joke to you, isn't it? And Melinda responded, ping burn. It's not a joke. You are the joke to me. Yes. It's not about compensation for me.

Stephanie:

Actually, you're the joke here.

Dani:

I love her.

Stephanie:

Wouldn't you like to know? Weather? Boy

Dani:

fuck. I love it. Just fucking, actually, you are the fucking Joe. Let the record reflect. Uh, since talking with authorities, Melinda has been attached twice, which sucks. She's known as a narc now. She had hot coffee thrown in her face, and another inmate hit her. When she asked why she was doing this, she said, quote, my parents are important to me and I can't be with my parents. I don't want anything to happen to them. That's why I came here today.

Stephanie:

Tell'em

Dani:

she's probably the toughest bitch. People meet in their entire, she's probably in there on like some drug charges. Mm-hmm. Or something, and she's like, I am not that person. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm, yeah. And it is feeling junk. Someone is probably whiny and Oh, and just a baby. Get the baby. Prosecutors presented the sheets as evidence. Okay. O trigger warning. I

Stephanie:

bet

Dani:

when they spread out the blood coverage sheets, body pieces fell to the floor. Oh

Stephanie:

no.

Dani:

The trial was halted for two hours so the courtroom could be cleaned because those once it dries.

Stephanie:

Oh, this was live in front of the drawer? Yes.

Dani:

And then they opened up the sheets and the little

Stephanie:

chunks.

Dani:

Thank you.

Stephanie:

You said it on me. Yes. That's all I can picture. Yeah.'cause I, a rifle will just like, its like a little bomb.

Dani:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

Oh, how terrorizing for everyone?

Dani:

I would. That is,

Stephanie:

yeah. Oh, hearing it. Ooh.

Dani:

Testimony was presented that Johnson had put the robe on backwards and shot her parents approximately 20 feet away.

Stephanie:

Smart genius. Got a high IQ killer here,

Dani:

and I'm just gonna go put it in the trash can. It's all gone. Bye bye. The last prosecution witness was Matt Johnson. Now, brother Matt testified that Johnson and her mother did not get along. Quote, it was fairly rocky. There was a, there was constant fighting, bickering back and forth. She seemed to get along well with my father. Obviously it wasn't hard for her to fucking shoot him.

Stephanie:

Yeah, got rid of him too real quick.

Dani:

Matt asked his sister if her door was shut when she heard the shots and she had told him yes, but blood spatter and brain matter were found in her room more than 20 feet away.

Stephanie:

Holy shit.

Dani:

Yeah, they, so they, she always said like, the door was shut, like I went and knocked on the door. Mm-hmm. And nobody answered me like I went up. No, no. There was literally blood and brain matter in her fucking room. Didn't you? Didn't think that went out, did you say?

Stephanie:

No,

Dani:

you didn't think about that one.

Stephanie:

It's like she watched one murder mystery and was like,

Dani:

that's exactly what she did. Easy

Stephanie:

enough.

Dani:

Matt also testified that his parents quote, did anything for her. Always trying to make her happy. She was a spoiled fucking brat who was high maintenance. Oh, I can't get my weight. I'm gonna kill about it.

Stephanie:

And in that brutal of a manner is wild.

Dani:

FYI, Matt and Johnson are half siblings. Alan had adopted Matt at a very young age. Okay. So, oh my God. I'd fucking be so mad at my sister. Yeah. I would be like, can I throw punch you right now? Yeah. And then I'm never fucking looking at you. You are dead to me. You don't exist. Uh, the defense team asked to enter evidence of a coconut being shot with a rifle to demonstrate the blood splatter from Diane's head entry.

Stephanie:

Oh my God.

Dani:

They filled the coconut with half and half cream. That had been colored with red and blue. What food coloring to represent blood and other body material. Judge said, nope.

Stephanie:

Why would the defense want this? I don't. There was a reason behind. We wanna show you just how brutal it is. Mm-hmm. What Can we shoot some food coloring in this and just blast it off? Let's go outside. I

Dani:

dunno what, I don't know what their motive was behind it. What the fuck is going on? I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? Uh, the judge said quote quite clearly. It does not represent what happened.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

No coconuts were shot in this crime.

Stephanie:

What in the world? That is just baffling me. Are you picturing the judge being like, you, you wanna do what? Um, yeah, we're gonna pass on that. Thanks for the, uh, suggestion. You're weird. You're weird,

Dani:

you're cool.

Stephanie:

I'm

Dani:

out. The defense team brought in a psychologist to testify about Johnson's behavior after the murders, justifying a lot of behaviors with trying to keep some normalcy after a tragic event, like going to volleyball practice, right? Kids just wanna be kids. They just wanna have some normalcy after they shoot their parents volleyball. Can't miss volleyball. Yeah. Hello. The defense also pointed out that the comforter that was over, Diane was thrown out.

Stephanie:

That is a bit of a, yeah. Shouldn't have done that. Why would you do that? That was dumb.

Dani:

It's like throwing away a bullet.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

Oh. Well, it wasn't found near the body. Chuck it. Yeah. Throw that shit away. Was that Sherman? I think it was. Yep. Okay. the defense called forensic scientist Michael Howard. He testified he had initially developed three hypothesis of what could have possibly happened at the crime scene. Here's his hypothesis.

Stephanie:

Okay.

Dani:

It was a murder suicide where Alan killed Diane before turning the gun on himself. another one is that Johnson pulled the trigger. And the third hypothesis, another person committed the murder.

Stephanie:

I mean this, this is a forensic scientist. Yeah. Obviously those all could have happened if you didn't know anything else.

Dani:

But he is gonna exclude one of those hypothesis. Oh,

Stephanie:

which one

Dani:

he testified. Johnson quote, could have not been the person that pulled the trigger in this scenario. Do tell He said the amount of blood produced from the gunshots could not be avoided and would've been on Johnson. No blood was found on

Stephanie:

her. She had the backwards robe, though she couldn't have done a quick face wash and.

Dani:

And then I did not, I start, it has to be, I think it was a forensic files episode, but I didn't really watch it, watch it.'cause I was like, you know, like I had more info. Mm-hmm. Like, it was just like being dramatic. But it was suspected that she had had a shower cap on and flushed it down the toilet.

Stephanie:

Not a bad idea,

Dani:

but she had no blood on her. Maybe she wrapped her head in foil. Who fucking knows

Stephanie:

She's in there with a grocery bag over her head. Little hole for breathing.

Dani:

Uh, attorney Bob had a catchphrase that he repeatedly used during the trial.

Stephanie:

Lawyers love this shit,

Dani:

dude. This is not an OJ trial. Right. It is such, it's not. If the glove doesn't fit, you must have quit. Mm-hmm. Like, that's catchy.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

Attorney Bob, no blood, no guilt.

Stephanie:

You tried it. I mean, that was a very poor attempt at if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. No blood, no guilt. It doesn't even rhyme.

Dani:

It doesn't.

Stephanie:

Everybody's so creative. Not him. Attorney Bob, dude. And he just keeps saying that. I be, the jury was like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, you're trying way too hard, bro. This is not, you're not gonna be on every news station in the country. You give it up. No blood, no guilt, no blood, no guilt.

Dani:

He had to admit though, that whole, the, the glove doesn't fit. Mm-hmm. You must have quit. Like,

Stephanie:

because then the juries are like, that them's the rules.

Dani:

Pretty catchy too. Them's the rules. Pretty catchy. I mean, I'm saying it 30 years later. Yeah. Pretty fucking catchy. Good job. I can't remember who said that. Me either. Cochrane. There you go. Cochrane

Stephanie:

smarty pants standing.

Dani:

It's been sticking with me for a minute. Uh, another forensic scientist testified for the defense stating unknown male DNA was found on the rifle ammunition, the robe, and both gloves. Hmm. Johnson didn't testify. And the case is handed over to the jury.

Stephanie:

I see. Okay.

Dani:

There were 78 witnesses that were called in the three week trial.

Stephanie:

Damn.

Dani:

Those neighbors were neighboring? Yes, they were.

Stephanie:

They all wanted to tell their story

Dani:

and I feel like this is a magic number. After only 10 hours of deliberation, the jury came back with a guilty verdict.

Stephanie:

That's a fair number. They did consider things, sounds like they had a lunch or two. They talked about the no blood, no guilt.

Dani:

What about that robe? She literally put that robe on fucking backwards. Mm-hmm. And shot her parents attorney. Bob is on it. He says he is planning on appealing. Duh. Bob. Obviously he has filed motions with the court for a mistrial, saying the jury mingled with the Johnson's relatives.

Stephanie:

M they had Ling had been seen

Dani:

together in the same restroom and hallways,

Stephanie:

not the mingling.

Dani:

Bob also filed a motion to dismiss the gun enhancement charge from the conviction stating that Johnson was never arraigned on the charge. Okay. And he filed a motion for a judgment of acquittal based on insufficient evidence.

Stephanie:

Okay? It's a stretch. A little bit of a stretch, but you gotta do your duty

Dani:

quote. There was never any evidence presented to, in this trial to show Sarah's finger was on the trigger, so no jury can convict her of it. Bob, did you miss the

Stephanie:

glove part? Did, did, did you miss the glove? Well, and yes, they certainly can. They can convict without a body, Bob.

Dani:

Mm.

Stephanie:

You can't just be making up rules here That collapse. Hello? Why?

Dani:

While awaiting the sentencing brother, Matt gets the family home ready to sell. He's a young man, I wanna say, I think he's like 23, 24. He's a young man. Can you imagine your dirt ball? Fucking half sister. Shoot your parents that you love and adore while you're off at college trying to make something of yourself and now you gotta go fucking clean up all that shit. I would. And deal with

Stephanie:

the estate. Yeah. Just at all of that stuff. All of it, yeah.

Dani:

And to clean out your childhood home

Stephanie:

that's covered in debris and blood and matter. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Dani:

attorney Bob is pissed. Johnson is being moved from the Blaine County Jail to the Minica jail and she hasn't had any access to her team since her conviction. Johnson has been moved three times in three weeks, and her attorneys were not informed. Oh, well, Blaine County Sheriff said, Hey, he's trying to find a good spot for her. They moved Johnson from the Blaine County Jail because they did not want her to be alongside Melinda.

Stephanie:

Oh, right. Yeah. Who don't give a fuck. She's like, yeah, put us in a cell together again. Yeah, let's

Dani:

go. Uh, or in the same facility that Sanchez is in, because Sanchez is still in jail.

Stephanie:

We got limited options here, folks.

Dani:

Johnson was then moved to the Madison County Jail and then back to Blaine County. Ugh. So they're, they're just trying to find a spot for her. And I'm gonna tell you, these counties probably did not have a lot of women facilities. Mm-hmm. So, you know, it's like, uh, we got two cells for four women and oh fuck, we have six. That's what's happening here.

Stephanie:

Well, and you get to go on a little field trip, Sarah. So quit crying. Yeah.

Dani:

I don't think Sarah, well actually I think Sarah was crying about it now that I remember. Wouldn't surprise us. Sorry. Um. In May a hearing is held. Attorney Bob is asking for that acquittal. Judge Woods said evidence linking Johnson to her parents' murder was as strong as quote, a 40 acre field of garlic in full bloom.

Stephanie:

Oh, see, now that's creativity that I can appreciate.

Dani:

If you would've had a slogan like that, Bob. Yeah. Come

Stephanie:

on.

Dani:

You've never heard that before and I'm like, I, I like that. Yeah. It's as strong as a 40 acre field of garlic and bloom.

Stephanie:

Full bloom baby. I can

Dani:

smell it actually right now. Just, just

Stephanie:

thinking about it. Yeah.

Dani:

Mm-hmm.

Stephanie:

Poor Bob.

Dani:

The defense team also told the judge that Johnson was not mature enough to testify, and so that's why they didn't have her up on the stand. Okay. She was mature enough to be, telling everybody she'd be fucking and getting lots of money.

Stephanie:

And I'm sorry. Kids testify all the time, like young kids. So if you're saying that, oh, if she would've testified it would've changed this case, but she just wasn't mature enough yet, how is that even an argument? She wasn't ready.

Dani:

She's not ready. It would've been she was ready as Santos, she was ready. She had the rings. The claim that jurors were mingling with family members was settled when each of the jurors signed an affidavit stating that there was no inappropriate contact between the groups. They're like, yeah, no. Go fuck yourself, Bob. letters from Johnson to a friend Nisha. Give some insight to her. While she's in jail. Okay. She wrote things like, quote, if I could be put in one place and left alone, I would start to do my GED. Since all I have now is time and quote, it's been really stressful and my belly can't handle it for much longer. I can't believe that I'm still having to deal with all this crap. I'm in total shock.

Stephanie:

I can't believe I'm

Dani:

still

Stephanie:

having to deal with all this

Dani:

crap. This murderer thing. Fuck

Stephanie:

so over it.

Dani:

Her friend said that every time she had to be moved, she had to leave everything behind. Like her Bible, her books, her underwear, her bra, her long johns that she wore to keep warm. Valid. I know That's how the jail, that's a valid, it's like you don't have anything. And then. The little bit you have, they take away.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

Why wouldn't they let her move it though? I know.

Stephanie:

Especially like

Dani:

the Bible and stuff. Yeah. Nisha said that Johnson misses her dad terribly. Mm. Well, fuck your mother. What guess? So she talks about both parents with fond memories. She talks about trips that they took and the holidays. It's very painful for her to talk about them. Mm, I bet. I bet that would be painful. Ouch. At the sentencing hearing, brother Matt testified again, oh my God, this poor kid quote. I think some honesty needs to come out of you and you need to plead to the court for some forgiveness. One of the ugliest and most horrifying things I've ever had to do when we sold the house. Is to go through and clean up blood and tissue and hair so someone else could buy it and not be horrified.

Stephanie:

That is terrible.

Dani:

Yeah.

Stephanie:

I cannot imagine having to do that.

Dani:

Matt also said quote of all the things I miss, I miss their hugs, their bear hugs. I lost the two best friends I ever had. He then turned to the judge and said, judge, I would like to see the maximum sentence because after tomorrow, I. I don't want to have to hear about her or this event again, I feel she has no remorse and feel she would do it again, except that she would do it with better planning and she would try to get away with it. I, I'd agree with that a hundred percent. It's like she's a evil conniving bitch. Mm-hmm. Judge, sorry. She just sucked it at murdering. It was her first time. Judge Wood sentenced Johnson. To two life terms without the possibility of parole, plus an additional 15 years for the use of a firearm in the commission of the murders. Sorry, Bob. Not getting that one Squashed. Didn't even get that one. Bob. Judge Woods said quote, it escapes me. You could have said, my God, what did I do? I'm outta here. But that didn't happen. You proceeded further. Mm-hmm. Referring to the moment after she shot her mother quote, it's undeniable. You had to look at him in the eyes when you shot him and you shot him in the lungs, he had no chance of survival. He told Johnson that if it weren't for her young age, she would've been sentenced to death. Quote, if this was a death penalty case, you would be a candidate for it. Tell her, get a Judge Johnson. Read her pathetic. No. Johnson read a statement to the court quote. I love my parents and I love my family. I am deeply grieving the loss of my parents, as well as the loss of my family, my home, my friends, and my community. I am thankful for the love and support of my adoptive family. With the guidance of the Lord and the continued love and support of those who believe in me. I hope to rebuild my life and prove that I can be a productive member of society. I just puked in my mouth a little bit. Yeah, I mean, still just you're grieving for you because you got caught because I guarantee you, if you hadn't gotten caught and pulled this off. Yeah. First of all, Bruno wouldn't have been with you'cause you weren't that kind of gal for him. Uh, but you would've just fucking contin. This is how the role, this is how it starts. The role of the manipulating. Mm-hmm. And get, I mean,

Stephanie:

she would've blown through whatever inheritance she had. Oh, fuck yeah. Living the spoil

Dani:

bra, cry on the hog. And it would've been, then she would've had to fuck somebody else over. Mm-hmm. She's like, oh, I got away with it now. Who else am I gonna murder about it? I really do feel that way. I'm just, because it was just such a blatantly stupid crime. Yeah. Over teenage angst. Yeah.

Stephanie:

She could have been the next Robin Rowe starting life insurance.

Dani:

That's exactly, that's exactly who I was thinking of making all those statements that who

Stephanie:

doesn't get life insurance policies on their friends? Y'all don't do that.

Dani:

What we're besties. If I ever ask you for a life life insurance, be like, um. I'm moving away. Are we going to, are we gonna go out fishing to cabin soon or No? Let's go to that rock ledge that has such a pretty view. Steph Uhhuh. No. in July. Johnson claimed she was raped while she was in custody at the Blaine County Jail in 2004. She was 17 emotionally and psychologically manipulated and then raped in the Haley Jail by a 30 something Idaho State Prison inmate who was working as a jail trustee on a work release program Am What's a jail trustee? Exactly. What is a jail trustee? I'm like, why? Why

Stephanie:

are you in the

Dani:

women's. They are low risk prison inmates brought in to work at local jails. Trustees have access to jail inmates, and it varies from county to county, but one-on-one access is not uncommon. So these are like the people that are close to getting out. Mm-hmm.

Stephanie:

Or uh, like nonviolent offenders and stuff.

Dani:

Right. Right.

Stephanie:

Hmm.

Dani:

Like, you get like special fun jobs like being a janitor, right? All lare, uh, dunno how he, like, that's a trustee kind of a job. Yeah. I don't know how he, anyway, the guards liked him in 2006, judge Woods said, come here, attorney Bob. Uh oh. Let, I'll talk and talk. The judge told Bob he overcharged the county by$42,000 in his representation of Johnson.

Stephanie:

That's not a small amount.

Dani:

Bob has just weeks to pay back the overpayment Pro. Yeah, come here. Prosecutor Thomas said, attorney Bob charged$130 per hour instead of the$65 per hour specified in the public defender contract. And there's an additional 10 to$20,000 on top of that, he'll have to refund based on the fact he billed us for the work performed by one of his associates.

Stephanie:

Damn,

Dani:

Bob, you doubled it bro. Don't be suspicious. Bob defends himself. He said quote in my reading of the contract, I got an additional$65 an hour after January 1st. All of my be behavior has been completely above board. If anybody contested any of this, the time to raise their concerns were in January of 2005. Sir, you were in the middle of a murder trial. Nobody's looking at your invoices.

Stephanie:

Yeah,

Dani:

Thomas didn't care. Like you guys, people had

Stephanie:

some other things going on at the time.

Dani:

Well, attorney

Stephanie:

Bob.

Dani:

Hmm.

Stephanie:

This Bob character, no blood, no guilt, no invoices, no fraud.

Dani:

Attorney Bob resigned from the Oregon State Bar September of 2004 while facing disciplinary measures according to state bar records. Bob was accused of. Quote, multiple violations of the disciplinary rules involving multiple clients matters that included illegal or excessive fees. Oh, dishonesty. Deceit or misrepresentation, including conversion of client funds and failing to deposit and maintain client funds and trust.

Stephanie:

Oh shit. They got you, Bob. They got you in Oregon. You were just still, uh, able to practice in Idaho. Wow.

Dani:

Bob had 42 complaints in his file in Oregon. One resulted in admonishment. Fuck. Hell yeah. One in a public reprimand and 11 were consolidated leading to Bob's resignation.

Stephanie:

That was just too much to fight for. At that point.

Dani:

He was like, fuck it, I'm done. I got this big murder case over here. I'm gonna overcharge for it. Of course. Yeah. Double. The Idaho State Bar gave Bob a public remand in 2001 for several violations of the Idaho Rules of Professional Conduct. How did he get the defense anyway? Shady. Very shady. It's like, better

Stephanie:

call Saul.

Dani:

Oh shit. Uh, in April, Blaine County Sheriff Fleming and Prosecutor Thomas said there is no evidence Johnson was sexually assaulted. While at an inmate at the Blaine County Jail, Johnson told several inmates she was having sex with a male inmate and that she was bribing the jail staff. To continue the relationship. Johnson said the other inmate was visiting her cell by climbing through an air duct. You've been watching too many movies, ma'am. What in the hell is going on here? Investigators said that was not possible. They're like, yeah, it doesn't work like that here. No. So she made up this whole story. That guy probably got questioned. Oh yeah. Like, yeah. What an interesting character we have. I think she's probably flirting with him. Because she obviously is needing the male attention, and maybe he was nice to her at first, but then he is like, eh, eh, aren't you that chick that killed her

Stephanie:

parents? Yeah. I'm not, we're not engaged right now or anything. Right.

Dani:

Hard pass. Uh oh. And I'm about ready to get outta jail. Yeah.'cause I'm a trustee, so, uh, go fuck yourself. She just made it all up.

Stephanie:

This gal

Dani:

in May, we are in court again because Johnson is fighting over insurance benefits with her brother Matt. He received half. It was a significant, I mean, sure 2005. I mean, he received half of the$500,550,000 benefit already, but he wants the rest. Uh, Johnson is disqualified to receive it under the Idaho Slayers Act.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

You can't be collecting on that if you killed them. No, but I didn't even know that was an act. Oh, really? No. Uh, the Idaho Slayers Act prevents anyone found to have been involved in a murder from profiting by receiving property or other benefits. I thought that that was like a federal law for some, I don't know. I thought it was a federal law. I know that cannot. I would

Stephanie:

hope it is, but. But that the Idaho Slayer Act, that we've gotta have a separate thing for it. That's interesting.

Dani:

Yeah. The name was kind of interesting.

Stephanie:

Slayer Act.

Dani:

fifth district judge LG ruled he won't make that distention until Johnson's murder conviction has been settled. So he's like, we, we know we're gonna have a ton of appeals on this. I'm not giving that money to anybody right now. Just hold it so we don't have to go backwards. Just. the$275,000, was deposited by the court into certificates of deposit where it continues earning interest. So they didn't just, yeah, okay, we're just gonna put it here. Let it collect some interest, let figure out, didn't figured out, yeah. In July, judge Woods said that even though attorney Bob and Rader missed the deadline to appeal. Johnson will be allowed to submit or appeal to the Idaho Supreme Court

Stephanie:

dropping the ball. Bob was a little bit low on funds for reasons that we know.

Dani:

No, he was not. the judge said there's plenty of evidence that Johnson had asked her attorneys to appeal and they assured her they were going to do so, and then they went on vacation

Stephanie:

heading to Reno. I fucking love that so

Dani:

much. Taking those kids C Circus. Here's 40 bucks. Don't, don't call. Don't bother me. Yeah. In 2008, attorney Bob is outta the picture by Bob, the Idaho State Bar suspended Bob for two years due to his record in Oregon. End. the appeal in front of the Idaho Supreme Court is because of instruction to the jury. They were instructed that they could convict her for first degree murder or aiding and abetting a murder due process did not happen because Johnson was unaware of that specific crime to aiding and abetting, and she never had the opportunity to defend herself of that charge In a May, the Supreme Court said Tough shit. The conviction was legal. and this is why in the eyes of the law, they don't care. Hmm. aiding and abetting a murder or being found of guilty of murder, like same level, same thing. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah. Johnson's next appeal is for inadequate counsel. Bob might have one there.

Stephanie:

Bob,

Dani:

no blood, no guilt.

Stephanie:

What? What the fuck? That's not an award-winning defense. That's

Dani:

not catchy enough. What the fuck? in 2009, judge Barry Wood Grant's new evidence discovery. New defense attorney Chris Christopher Sims asked for all evidence related to a newly discovered fingerprint that was found on the murder weapon.

Stephanie:

Oh.

Dani:

Um, this is fucking six years later. Yeah. Hmm. These fingerprints belong to Christopher Hill. Who is Christopher. Yeah. He was a previous roommate of Mel Spiegel, who rented the guest house at Johnson's Property Hill had helped him move into the house, and he stated that he had also fired the gun before. All right. They were digging deep to find that,

Stephanie:

and that's a reasonable explanation as well. But nope, this roommate just is gonna go in and blast the shit out of these two people. Okay.

Dani:

It's, and it's just finding somebody else to blame. Mm-hmm. But the obvious person and the, the things that he probably had to go through, she's just, she don't give a fuck who she's dragging down. Mm-hmm. It has no. Mm-hmm. Her moral compass is fucking broke. She wants to go

Stephanie:

to the volleyball games.

Dani:

Damnit. In 2010, Santos was arrested.

Stephanie:

Oh, Santos. What the hell?

Dani:

After selling a half pound of meth to an undercover detective

Stephanie:

Damnit Santos.

Dani:

Is that a lot? That is a lot. Okay. Santos had been deported after the trial in 2005. And most recently as 2010, he just be coming and going. He's like, yeah. Um, it was great to see my friends. Bye. I back, uh, in December, 2010, Johnson is back in court, for a civil post, for civil, post-conviction relief. Multiple syllables. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus. The hearing focuses on multiple allegations, including ineffective counsel and evidence tampering, and of course, the new fingerprints. She wants a new trial.

Stephanie:

Hmm.

Dani:

In 2011, Santos pleads guilty on those drug charges. He's facing five years to life in prison. He ends up being sentenced to 13 years fixed with an indeterminate of 11 years. That's a long time, maybe mandatory minimum sentencing later in the year in a 94 page decision, fifth district Judge Bevin denied a new murder trial for Johnson. You 94 page decision. He's like, let me tell you why, uh, most of these decisions I see. Or maybe 10, 12. Wow, I didn't know that. they're very clean and simple. And the first page is like half it's taken up by,

Stephanie:

yeah. Who is it? The blah, blah, blah. Right?

Dani:

Like, what's up? Um, so yeah, 94 fucking pages. He's like, you're, you're dumb. You're dumb, you're dumb. This ain't gonna work. 2014, another rejection for a new trial by the Idaho Supreme Court. This time the Idaho Innocence Project is involved. Mm. Which surprises me. Yeah. Because there's cases that I'm gonna research that I know they were involved in, uh, the Idaho, but just to let you know about the Idaho Innocent Project, it's a big deal. Mm-hmm. Like they've gotten people off a death row. That should have been off death row. Yeah. I don't think this gal's a candidate, but, uh, do what you're gonna do. But the Idaho Innocent Project has helped free over 250 people, but in 2024 it was suspended due to funding. Oh, shit. I was so surprised.'cause it's run outta Boise State. I didn't know that. Yeah. And like there's some big cases that they worked on. Oh yeah. And, and they will be coming up. yeah. So I was surprised that it was no longer there. Lack of funding, right. I believe in that. Like I'm all like if somebody did not murder somebody, yeah. This is not, I mean because there have

Stephanie:

been cases where even evidence comes up later that prove, like basically proves the other person innocent.

Dani:

The DNA NA testing and stuff.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm. And they still keep'em there and won't let'em have a retrial. Yeah.'cause they don't have the resources and everything. So, no, I agree with it too. A lot

Dani:

of it's just getting the DNA tested. Mm-hmm. It's like an act of Congress to get that done. It's expensive. It takes a long time. Like some of these like rape and murder cases where there's definitely DNA evidence from the eighties and nineties that can be tested and they just, these guys are still just sitting there. Mm-hmm. And I think it's

Stephanie:

a money thing too, so they don't wanna do the testing. And they also spent all this money on trials already. Yeah. In

Dani:

appeals. And so, no, they have to, it's pretty much they have, some of these are stretching to where they have to pay for it themselves. And so that's what Right. The Idaho Innocence Project, innocence Project is about, it's about getting that stuff tested, having the funding.

Stephanie:

Mm-hmm. It's

Dani:

not only, Hey, judge, can we have that to test, but also don't worry, we're gonna pay for it.

Stephanie:

Yeah.

Dani:

And so it's much easier to get that done that way than to try to convince the court for.

Stephanie:

I don't know what ridiculous how much it is. Yeah,

Dani:

I'd be curious. I'll have to look that up. One time in 2024, Santos is released from prison.

Stephanie:

Oh wow.

Dani:

Just last year.

Stephanie:

Wild.

Dani:

Uh, so he was in prison for what? From 2011, 24, 13 years, he did the full'cause that was fixed. Right? Yep. Damn. Don't sell drugs. Yeah. Stop doing that. I mean, you can. You shouldn't do drugs. But if you do, just do drugs. Just do the drugs. Don't

Stephanie:

sell

Dani:

them. Don't sell them. You'll end up spending half of your life in prison. Bad idea. And actually I'm really kind of down on the drug dealers right now because of all the fentanyl.

Stephanie:

Yeah. Stop. Stop. With that

Dani:

Took to quote, Theo can't even do cocaine in this place anymore. Hell is this America? Can you believe you said that to the price resident? Anyways?

Stephanie:

He's

Dani:

like, I know. Uh, and currently in 2025, Johnson is 38. And residing at the Pocatello Women's Correctional Center, not right this second, but with Lori Vallow. Oh, that's where Lori Vallow is supposed to be, but right now she's in Arizona. She's doing her tour. so yeah. Spoil Brett. She, yeah. Okay. Has been in prison over half her life.

Stephanie:

Overall. Terrible murder job, and to kill your parents. Especially since she said she loved her dad and had no problem with him, but she was just gotta make it look good. Yeah. Gotta get'em both outta the way so I can get that money and do what I want.'cause my dad still probably wouldn't let me do what I want, so. It's just

Dani:

terrible. And I really do think he probably, he, I know he heard that shot. Mm-hmm. Even though he was in the shower, right? Oh, yeah. There's no not hearing it. And to li when you hear you're listening, you're like, did I just hear something and have your daughter just fucking turn around the fucking gun and shoot you?

Stephanie:

And that she had a bruise for it and everything. Yeah. Yeah, you're not blaming it on the maid or the brother or the roommate or whoever.

Dani:

Whoever, the roommate's roommate, shut the fuck up. You're a spoil fucking brat bra. And by the way, you're just a fuck buddy for Santos. He did not come visit you. And he wasn't like, oh my, my baby, my baby, my fiance. Oh no. He's like, oh, we're engaged. Oh, news to me. Wow. So anyway,

Stephanie:

thank you Danny. Another great story. We do have an update for everyone. starting around May 15th. We're gonna be doing, an episode every other week. And this is just because we do a lot of stuff in the summer. We've got vacations planned. we still gotta live. We still got both full-time jobs. So we will still be doing every other week episodes. maybe sometimes we'll throw in a bonus episode if we can, but, uh, we appreciate, appreciate all you guys for listening. Um, follow us on TikTok, new content out for you. listen anywhere you can, we're there

Dani:

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Dani:

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Stephanie:

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Dani:

Fuck yeah. Whew.

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