40. Buried Secrets: The Grisly Tale of Hagnas

Join Dani and Stephanie as they dive into the chilling tale of Todd C. Hagnis, who turned a simple arson call near Boise Airport into a grisly double homicide investigation. Discover how a mundane porch beer and lighter led detectives to ghastly hidden bodies and a bizarre confession. We'll take you through the harrowing and methodical police work, and the perplexing twists that left everyone asking, 'Why call the cops on yourself?' From Hagnis’ unsettling roommate saga to his final chapter in 'other jail,' this case is riddled with WTF moments. Navigate through the dark humor and curious details as we explore one of Idaho's most baffling crimes.

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Dani 0:00

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Stephanie 0:03

No, we're not. We need an audio video person.

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We just are. We're doing our jam. We got this.

Stephanie 0:12

We're our own audio and video persons. Kind of, if this has any audio issues, I'm going to lose my absolute shit.

Dani 0:24

Okay.

Stephanie 0:25

Alright folks. Not your fault at all. It's um, I don't know whose fault it is really.

Dani 0:32

It's probably the demons.

Stephanie 0:34

Yes, we have had a demon problem, that's for sure. And it's spooky season, so

Dani 0:40

maybe that's it. Let's go. Cheers

Stephanie 0:41

to spooky season everyone. I hope you're having a lovely ease into fall. I feel like it's been really nice here. Mm-hmm. As far as like, I love that fall I saw a TikTok that's like fall is not crazy like these other seasons. Like a very demure and mindful Yes. Yeah. She's easing into it. It's getting the leaves get a little crispy. They start changing colors

Dani 1:07

but my tomatoes aren't dead yet. I'm loving it.

Stephanie 1:10

Well, a win-win, win-win, win, win. Um, so yeah, hope you guys are doing great. We're doing awesome. We just recorded two tiktoks. That's a lot for us. That's a big word for Elmo. Truly it fucking. It is a lot. So we,

Dani 1:33

but we do enjoy. I, I fucking love it. It's fun.

Stephanie 1:35

It's super fun, but it's it's so much harder than it looks It's crazy.

Dani 1:40

Kudos to, uh, creators that can nail it every time. Absolutely. Because we do not nail it every

Stephanie 1:45

time. I think it probably took us 16 times this time, and that's okay. We're here to win. We're here. We're here to get it done and get it done right. We're just doing our best. We're just really doing our best, you guys, and we're poor. So just kidding. No, but really, anyway, Danny has another story for us today. What is on the table?

Dani 2:11

Well, in 2007, a small house fire near the Boise Airport. caught fire officers. Found the tenant on the porch with a beer and a lighter uh oh. What began as an arson call turned into a double homicide when crews uncovered two bodies, one in the crawl space and one in the yard. This is how a porch fire led detectives to buried victims. And a confession

Stephanie 2:45

well shit

Dani 2:46

sources used in today's episode. That bitch, the Idaho statesman,

Stephanie 2:50

love you girl.

Dani 3:23

On April 26th, 2007, Boise Police arrested 38-year-old Todd c Hagnis after a house fire near the Boise Airport. The fire started around 9:25 AM according to spokesperson, Lynn Hightower. Remember Lynn Hightower? Oh, I do. Lynn Hightower. What a great name for you. I know she was on the news and then she went to. Be like the spokesperson for the Boise Police Department, right? Yes, she

Stephanie 3:50

did. Yep.

Dani 3:51

But we know her from the news.

Stephanie 3:54

You know, we, we get really connected to our news folks here in Idaho. They stay

Dani 3:58

forever.

Stephanie 3:59

Larry Bert, anyone rest in peace? RIPI

Dani 4:07

Mm-hmm. Because he is near and dear to people here. Oh, yeah. Okay. Cruz found hagnis on the porch, swing near the flames, holding a beer, a lighter and a phone. Oh, Hagnis Lived on the 1500 block of Heisel Street and was booked into the ADA County Jail for felony first degree arson. Detectives said they were still working. To learn how the fire started and whether it connected to other crimes on the property. Hightower said there was more to the story than a house fire.

Stephanie 4:39

Sounds like it.

Dani 4:40

During questioning, Hagnis gave information that led detectives to believe two homicides had occurred inside the home.

Stephanie 4:49

Okay?

Dani 4:49

Hagnis was held on a million dollar bond for arson. Investigators found what they believed were human remains in the crawlspace because of the seriousness of the suspected crimes and the condition of the evidence. The search was meticulous and methodical. Thank goodness. Police said they had partial identities for the possible victims, both acquaintances of Hagnis. Mm, and they also found the body of a small dog beneath the house. What the dog doing. What the dog doing there. Right? Because if

Stephanie 5:26

you, if your dog dies, are what, when are you ever burying your dog underneath the house? The backyard. Sure. On your property? Yeah. That's odd. I don't like it.

Dani 5:42

Police said evidence suggested two murders had occurred and named Hagnis a suspect. Investigators began collecting evidence at the home located near Victory Road and Federal Way. Just to kind of give you an idea where I was sitting in Boise, they also believe Hagnis was the anonymous caller who phoned nine one one at 7:19 AM saying the police would be busy, I would need cadaver dogs. And then he later called to report the fire.

Stephanie 6:13

Hi, I'm not me. And I saw something suspicious that was not me, but was someone else at not my house. And not my house. I could see the house though, but I don't live there.

Dani 6:28

Not me.

Stephanie 6:30

I wish we could get these 9 1 1 calls.

Dani 6:32

Oh my God. Does. It sounds like

Stephanie 6:34

the jig was up before it even began.

Dani 6:36

It really was. I mean, and he goes in there and he is like, oh, by the way. Those cadaver dogs, they're for two dead bodies. Like he's just spilling. He's spilling just enough to make them go look right. This is so

Stephanie 6:53

strange

Dani 6:54

because a house fire wouldn't immediately, uh, I'm sure firefighters are not like, oh, there's a house fire. Let's go check for cadavers.

Stephanie 7:03

No, not at all. That is not the priority.

Dani 7:05

No. Let's get the fire out. Are you okay sir? Sorry about your luck. Okay. Call your insurance company.

Stephanie 7:14

Mm-hmm. That's a typical, they're not like, um,

Dani 7:16

uh, well, I know you, did you get any dead bodies in there? Yeah. I know you just had a fire, but it's our routine, uh, part of our investigation to check for. I just gotta ask. Dead body. Any dead bodies in the crawl space, buried in the backyard. You got a burn barrel. Maybe you forgot about'em or something.

Stephanie 7:33

Previous owner, you knew about some previous owners, dead bodies. Yeah.

Dani 7:36

Can we just discuss this really quick and then we'll, we'll get outta your hair? No, no

Stephanie 7:40

one's asking that. It was because of him.

Dani 7:46

This is a difficult, disturbing crime. Captain Eugene Smith said, he described the work at the home as painstaking and methodical. You are gonna hear methodical like 50 times from each tonight.

Stephanie 8:00

That's, and because that's the word that's been used in articles again and again,

Dani 8:04

neighbors said Hagnis lived with at least two other men and possibly a woman. And that the group kept a low profile neighbor David Berger said he had not seen the roommates for several days. He often saw them around a backyard fire pit and frequently saw Hagnis walking his dog next door, owner JP Phillips, Larry said Hagnis mostly kept to himself, relatives and a former girlfriend till reporters, they were not surprised by Hagnis arrest. Mm mm So something was a little off. Something was off. You know, you can portray that sometimes you can get away with it with people you work with. Mm-hmm. Neighbors. But when, when us girlfriends close friends, family members are like, yeah, we're not surprised. You can only mask so much. Yes. You can only mask so much.

Stephanie 9:11

Yeah. We've had a couple cases like this, like where the one Oh. So-and-so's talking about his most recent murder, like where they kind of knew that he had murdered someone and it was like, oh, here he goes again out murdering damn cousin Dave, whoever the, yeah. You know,

Dani 9:32

it doesn't surprise me one bit. Yeah. Family members said Hagnis had a temper and problems with alcohol, drugs and the law. Oh. Record showed. And these are nothing big, but records showed a 2000 Utah misdemeanor for a legal possession of a controlled substance and paraphernalia. It was probably pot, uh, two Oregon misdemeanor contempt of court convictions in 2004 and an oh six ADA County, an ADA county misdemeanor battery case from a dispute at an apartment complex. Okay. So we're escalating mm-hmm. When we get to the misdemeanor battery, but I mean, Hmm. Everybody. Pot was bad for everybody in 2000. Well, remember those

Stephanie 10:15

times. You know this, it's all about if you get caught or not. I mean, listen, my early twenties, I don't know how I didn't have maybe at least one of those charges. Take your pick one, spin the wheel, how it, it was purely luck, which. Listen, I'm not lucky on the slots. I'm not lucky on the lottery tickets. I guess that's where I got my luck because what a, what a little hellion I was, I should have had maybe a couple, couple of those, a little one too. Mm-hmm. One or two of those didn't, not to any of my own brains and, and skill, I'll tell you that much.

Dani 11:01

Just pure luck. When you said that, I just heard like the clicking of like a will.

Stephanie 11:06

Yeah. Like whose turn is I somehow. We, we've all been a little bit of a shit show at some point in our life,

Dani 11:15

no doubt. Uh, core papers hagnis listed two concrete company coworkers as his nearest relatives. What my bro, But one number listed reached someone who said he didn't even know him. Hana said, he had worked for a concrete company, up till July, 2006. I'm seeing some huge red flags here. Just why would you not list your family members

Stephanie 11:50

and you're listing two coworkers as your family members?

Dani 11:55

But also n possibly not even the right numbers. He's making up phone numbers. Like he meant like a man that doesn't wanna be found. Yeah.

Stephanie 12:07

Is what it sounds like. Because listen, if you don't have a brother, sister, or mother f like that's okay. I, I think a lot of people know now that you might not talk to those people. There's a lot of reasons, but if your family is your coworker, why would we have the wrong numbers? Strange.

Dani 12:29

So the dog.

Stephanie 12:32

Mm.

Dani 12:32

While investigating detectives found a decaying dog and freshly disturbed dirt, and by 11:00 PM that night, located human remains not good at all. This isn't looking good. By day three, agencies had the cul-de-sac closed traffic while they collected evidence in the backyard. Officers used ground penetrating radar and hand tools. To sift soil and narrow their search to a specific area. The arson investigation, complicated evidence collection, and the remains found on day one had not yet been removed.

Stephanie 13:19

I see. And I've, I know that this is a standard way that people try to cover up their crimes is by setting a fire. And I think a lot of it's pretty effective because. Think of a fire hose, you know, and everything that can wash away and muddy up. And it cannot wash away bones and dead fire hose. No, it can't. It cannot at all. But if there was,'cause a lot of people think, oh, I'll just kill someone in the living room and then set the house on fire. So they're easily caught, right? Like. Hm. Yeah, that didn't work. But it's still like other things that you would've had like footprints or other things. Yeah. It can wash away or mix up different DNAs that have been in the house and put people's DNA on other things so that like you don't wanna be blasting shit with a fire hose, but they have to. Mm-hmm.'cause they had to put the fire out, so. Yep.

Dani 14:13

Absolutely. So while they're trying to search the other parts of the house for where,'cause I don't think he was killing somebody in the crawl space, that that was not where that started. No. So the fire definitely complicated. Like they couldn't go and find

Stephanie 14:33

blood spatter on the walls Correct. And everything. So, yeah, a hundred percent. I get what you're saying.

Dani 14:39

Hightower said detectives were building their case. The home only measured 988 square feet. The owner said that to her knowledge, Hagnis was a sole resident on a two year lease. Mm. That started in June of oh six, and it doesn't sound like that was true

Stephanie 14:58

for the neighbors. That's a tiny house. Yeah, especially for two, three roommate. I mean, I don't know yet, but it sounds like there was multiple people in and out. I don't know if they lived there, but my first

Dani 15:09

house was 800 square feet and two bedrooms. The first house I purchased, it was fucking tiny, but you know, you can make that work. It is what it is. Throw another 188 feet on that, you definitely have more room. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was definitely a one bathroom.

Stephanie 15:27

And that's the roughest part of it.

Dani 15:29

That is, mm-hmm. On April 30th, investigators confirmed a second body in the northeast corner of the backyard at around 6:30 PM. After a day of digging under a blue tarp and sifting through soil screens, that is the worst. And we saw this out at, with a velo case.

Stephanie 15:48

Mm-hmm.

Dani 15:49

They pop up that tent, and they're literally sifting dirt.

Stephanie 15:53

Yeah. Oh. Not, I respect people in this line of work, but. I can't even imagine doing that and like, thinking of the Vallow case and the things that they found terrifying. Horrifying. Ugh. I'd be physically ill. And the, the shitty one about that case is everyone, everyone knew

Dani 16:21

mm-hmm.

Stephanie 16:23

If the, everyone with, you know, sure. People wanna get the benefit of the doubt. But why wouldn't you just show your kids? And I mean,'cause Idaho is one of those states where you can refuse medical care if for religious reasons. Mm-hmm. And so if you can just show that your kid's alive, you have the right to do whatever. And if you're the custodial parent. And so since that didn't happen, everyone should have probably known. But that doesn't change the fact that it's like. Oh, we're in Chad's backyard. In the little animal graveyard.

Dani 17:00

Yeah,

Stephanie 17:01

ill

Dani 17:03

atrocious. The body still covered with soil was taken to the ADA County morgue along with the dog's bones. Firefighters had to cut an exterior wall and pulled up flooring to improve access to the crawl space where the other body remained. Still there. Damn. Captain Smith said investigators had to be slow and methodical. Methodical to be sure nothing was missed. Names, genders, condition of the remains and signs of trauma were withheld from the public. Autopsies were expected. Within a few days. Hagnis remained a suspect based on his statements. And about where the bodies might be found. Of course, obviously, get your cadaver dogs. What an idiot.

Stephanie 18:01

And just it make, if you're going to like murder people, and it sounds like, I don't know how long they've been there or whatever, it doesn't sound like there was a huge investigation. Why are you. Kind of trying to do a mini arson, get rid of evidence, but then not like, and

Dani 18:21

then he initiated

Stephanie 18:21

the call to nine

Dani 18:22

one one.

Stephanie 18:23

Yeah. What are we doing? I just to get, what's the logic of it isn't supposed

Dani 18:28

to let the motherfucker burn

Stephanie 18:31

or just, did he even have to burn it? Like how much was suspicion of these missing people? Like did anyone know they were missing? Could he have just lived life for five years there, or went on his merry way to somewhere else? Who knows?

Dani 18:46

they had to bring in some animal welfare, people to help remove other live animals from the property.

Stephanie 18:53

Oh,

Dani 18:53

reptiles from a back bedroom went to animal control, fish and turtles from a front yard, pond. Went to a rescue group. Okay. Ponds are hard. I'm just only giggling because ponds are hard to take care of. Extremely. Especially in Idaho like that actually have live fish. Yeah. And turtles in them. Anyway, just a little. No, you gotta really be on it. On it. Neighbor John Par said he and Hagnis had a friendly flowerbed competition. He described Hagnis as neighborly and friendly, sometimes a little loud at night and said he had no idea anything like this was happening. He's into his yard.

Stephanie 19:42

Well, and listen, with my neighbors, we've got one neighbor that we're very close with just'cause we knew them before they moved in, and so of course they're our favorite neighbors. what a blessing. Let me just say, if you have a friend moving next to you, it's so fucking cool. It's like an adult, like not a slumber party, but just like camp built in, friend right there. If you're just, you don't wanna go anywhere, but you just wanna hang out and they're just amazing. But, you know, we're we, we know our neighbors, but it's very high level, you know,

Dani 20:19

so it sounds like he. He was making he, he was making friends and had relationships with some people to have a friendly gardening competition. We don't know what that's like. Yeah, that's more than most. Yeah. I'll say that. Investigators expected to work the scene another two or three days. Damn. The even brought in portable toilets and a mobile command center just set up out in front of the house as police prepare to wrap up on the scene work. Residents were looking for answers. Darcy Johnson, whose yard shared a fence with the property said Hagnis like to garden and he would toss her children's balls back over the fence. I mean, that's a ni we've had. Look, if you've had kids and you have that jerk neighbor. That takes

Stephanie 21:14

offense to it being in their yard. Yeah. You're not, your kids aren't,

Dani 21:17

your kids aren't getting their, their stuff back

Stephanie 21:20

at the very least, or at the most, you're getting a visit or a screaming or an airborne. Mm-hmm. From a neighbor. So yeah.

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Dani 22:59

Access to the crawlspace body was gained Monday afternoon and autopsies began. In recent memory, this was the most time consuming and difficult crime scene we had encountered. Captain Smith said,

Stephanie 23:14

Hmm,

Dani 23:16

can you, Ima like to get that body out from underneath? They had to cut out walls and floors.

Stephanie 23:25

Yeah, I just, well, I just, and of course any crawl space thing always brings me to John Wayne Gacy and everyone knows that, but just thinking. The work for two, in this case, I don't even remember how many he had

Dani 23:40

and I just, off the top, I wanna say it was 17, but I could be wrong. It, it was a lot. It was more than 10.

Stephanie 23:46

I'm pretty sure it was a lot. So, but just thinking of, I just trying to put myself in the mind of someone like this where it's like, oh, whoopsy killed someone, or you know. Your little urges got too far. Like that's not me. But if I did and I decided to put a body in a crawl space and seeing how difficult that would be, imagine digging with no head room and like how gross crawl spaces are, how little room there is. And he did it that many times to where he was running out of fucking room essentially. And now we've got this guy that's like. I don't know when the murders happened, but you did it once and you're doing it again. I guess this is one, I wouldn't do it at all, but I'm too fucking lazy for that shit. I'm not going in a crawl space for shit I, if my life depends on it. Maybe. But if I don't ever think we've got friends that would that know how to do trades, if it's HVAC or whatever, I'm not getting in a fucking crawlspace to bury a body.

Dani 24:57

I don't think I've ever, I'm just really all the

Stephanie 24:59

true crime we listen to crawlspace is that if you were a different person, a serial killer, no body going in your crawl space, no desert demon. Fuck. Desert is correct though. Or just, I mean, hello, Frank Church Wilderness.

Dani 25:26

That's too far to travel. I got the why. He's right here and I'm not. If you plan,

Stephanie 25:30

if you planned it, you could have time to travel. Inconspicuously.

Dani 25:35

We could go fishing, climb Martinez. on May 3rd, the ADA County coroner said the man and woman fan at the Heisel Street Home had been killed several weeks earlier and were roommates of the suspect. Jodi Collingsworth, age 36, died from a slash wound to the throat and she was the body that was found in the crawlspace horrific. Jeffrey Allen Willett, age 48, died from a blunt force blow to the head, and he was found in the backyard.

Stephanie 26:12

What the hell is happening in this house? Both had, go ahead, but can I just say. I'm not trying to make light of anything, but you said she was the one that was buried first. Um, maybe. Maybe, because in my opinion, trying to bury a body in the crawl space and then why you would do it in the backyard for the next one. It seems logical to me, so just, uh, we'll put a pin in that

Dani 26:45

Jeffrey Allen Willett 48, died from a blunt force blow to the head and was found in the backyard. Both had additional injuries and were badly decomposed. They've been there A hot minute early. Evidence suggested Cosworth died first. So Jodi, you nailed it Died first. She was identified by tattoos and will it by fingerprints? Police said both were part-time roommates at the house rendered by Hagnis.

Stephanie 27:23

And again, I just, for this guy to call the cops and clue it in. So for one, if you had them both in the crawl space. And you're able to keep up neighborly and tenant relationships if you have a cool landlord and they're never coming by, even if they are coming by. No one's checking your crawlspace for bodies. No, this, I feel like this could have went on and been unsolved for years.

Dani 27:54

There's something that triggered him to start that fire and who knows what's going on in his brain. Um. It is just sad though. I mean these two innocent, they thought he was probably their friend and roommate and Yeah,

Stephanie 28:11

and maybe, I'm not sure how the missing person case, if there was missing person cases for these two, and even if there wasn't, that doesn't mean anything. It's just missing person we know is all about how forceful the family is and friends are and sometimes. Police tell you things to make you think that you can't keep pushing for it regardless. So if it was that type of situation, this could have went maybe forever.

Dani 28:41

Just continue gardening. Yeah.

Stephanie 28:42

Oh, so and so these free, free spirits must have went to Cancun or to Jamaica or you know, lemme tell you. Tell me about it.

Dani 28:54

Will, it's ex-wife, Juul. Said he had been trying to get his life back on track and that he was a caring father and a hard worker, and this is the ex saying this, so. Mm-hmm. You know, uh, he accepted people without a thought. The father of four and a grandfather of four had lived in the Treasure Valley for nearly 20 years. He worked a long stand as a pit crew chief at Meridian Speedway. Love it. And more recently. He was working, doing electrical work at a trailer construction company in Boise. She said he had battled alcoholism, but was improving, but she became concerned when he missed their son's 18th birthday and stopped showing up for work. Uh oh. Jules said she knew Hagnis and felt uncomfortable around him. She recalled him feeding a live baby rabbit to a snake in front of her child. Officials. Yeah. Mm-hmm. There's some red flags there. Yeah. officials said they only located a relative for collingsworth, and that relative was incarcerated outta state. So not a whole lot on Jody. Mm-hmm. As far as her background, but Jeffrey Willett. He had kids. It sounded like his ex-wife and him had a decent An agreement. Yeah. Yeah. A decent relationship. She wasn't like, go fuck yourself. She's like, oh, there was some weird things going on over there, but you know, he's a good dad.

Stephanie 30:30

Mm-hmm.

Dani 30:31

When he didn't call our son. Definitely red flag. Red flag. Yep. In early June, a grand jury indicted hagnis on two counts of first degree murder. The filing suggested Jodi may have been killed as early as December 30th, 2006. Oh, shit. Yeah, On June 13th, Hagnis pleaded not guilty In fourth district court. Prosecutors then filed notice to seek the death penalty. They argued the crimes were especially heinous and showed an utter disregard for human life. They also said that there was evidence that Jeffrey May have been killed because he was a potential witness to Jody's earlier murder. Uh oh. He probably was like, what's going on with that?

Stephanie 31:26

Yeah, no shit.

Dani 31:28

Police and prosecutors said Hagnis may have lived in the rental for up to four months with Jodi in the crawl space. Sounds like it. Allegation includes slashing Jodi's throat sometime between December 30th oh six and March oh seven and killing Jeffrey by blunt force and burying him between March 31st and April 26th. They're not exactly sure of these dates, but I do believe that Jodi was killed way earlier.

Stephanie 32:03

I believe so as well.'cause I can see how this would escalate.

Dani 32:09

On January 29th, 2008, Hagnis avoided a possible death sentence by pleading guilty to killing his roommates and burying them before setting the home on fire. Prosecutors dropped the death penalty request in exchange for the guilty pleas on two counts of second degree murder for Jeffrey Willett and Jody Collingsworth hagnis admitted to the murders and agreed to life in prison without the possibility of parole on March 3rd. Agnes. Answered. Judge Sherry cops his questions with just a yes. He was very, didn't elaborate. Okay. in court, Jeffrey's family said the plea was a relief because Hagnis would never leave prison and they would be spared weeks if explicit testimony. Sure. And that's

Stephanie 33:08

the truth.

Dani 33:09

Like now, if he's gonna sit there and rot forever, boom. No motive was offered in court.

Stephanie 33:18

Mm.

Dani 33:19

And the arson charge was dismissed as part of the agreement. Sure. So this guy's going away. Bye. I'm tell, I've been holding onto this story for a long time, uh, because I couldn't find. When I looked up Hagnis record with IDOC, he was not pulling up. Oh, that's a big part of my storytelling. I always, one of the first things that I do when researching is I just go to IDOC and see their status, where they're at. Are they out? Are they dead? Are they. Just, are they in Arizona? Right? Have they been shipped out? Where are they at? I'm not kidding. There was nothing out there. So I've just been kind of sitting on it, but then one day I was like, oh, I wanna just check. And I checked. So I do have, I, I will have some kind of resolution, but uh, and that's leading into this part. Hmm. So he's rotting in jail for the rest of his life.

Stephanie 34:41

Okay?

Dani 34:42

Okay. But in early 2015, 45-year-old Hagnis appeared on the ADA County jail roster on a new charge of assaulting a corrections officer at a prison in South Boise. According to spokesman Patrick Orr, the incident happened on October 30th at about, six 30 in the morning. A corrections officer was feeding inmates through door openings. When Hagnis complained about a toilet problem in his cell, the officer told him to move to the back. Security opened the door and the officer stepped inside to talk with him. Mm-hmm. Moments later, the officer said Hagnis attacked the officer took him to the ground and additional staff arrive and restrained him. The officer suffered facial injuries. And on January 6th, ADA County prosecutors issued an arrest warrant for felony assault and battery on certain personnel, and you got five year, another five year prison term for that, which makes me think that that is the why I couldn't find even when I did find him. Now, lemme just tell you. Todd Hagnis is currently 56 years old and residing in other jail according to the ID IDocs website. Other, other, what the fuck is that? Uh, let me show you exactly. Look. Oh, I didn't snap it from today. Just as in custody. But, that is so weird when I looked at it today.'cause this, I did look in August. I've been just checking on him and checking on him, and I started this way earlier than that. but it literally says other jail. He's located in other jail, located

Stephanie 36:51

other,

Dani 36:52

other

Stephanie 36:53

jail. none of the

Dani 36:54

above, almost.

Stephanie 36:55

Okay.

Dani 36:56

W this is the first time that this has ever happened. So what I see is, you know, different correctional facilities in Idaho and sometimes other states. Right. Arizona, Arizona's the big one for us. Mm-hmm. we have a contract with them where we ship our long-term inmates down there. To the desert. Um, the other desert. The other desert. but yeah, I just thought it was so weird that I couldn't locate him in any facility. That is super strange.

Stephanie 37:27

What's really going on here?

Dani 37:29

Kind of. Yeah. And I'm just saying it probably has to do something with him. assaulting a correctional officer. Yeah. I'm just, no shit. I mean, it sounded like it was a bad deal. Fuck you Hagnis. You can't go around killing roommates, but also sketchy on the IDOC. Where's he at?

Stephanie 37:52

Yeah. So this is a, a case that's full of question marks because

Dani 37:59

we don't know why. Yes, there is no, why no motive there. In some of my research, there was talk about some, medications used for mental illness. Possibly. Sure. I would have to think. I think just crazy. A mental illness kind of get across. There's some people that are just, they don't give a fuck. So like

Stephanie 38:22

psychopathic or sociopathic? Yeah. Versus like depression, anxiety, right. Things like that.

Dani 38:29

He literally started his house on fire called 9 1 1.

Stephanie 38:34

And it was like, yeah, it might complicate it with the bodies, but if you wanna put the fire out, but there is those bodies. Yeah. What,

Dani 38:45

say what?

Stephanie 38:47

Yeah.'cause it does sound like what you had mentioned that it was maybe two to four months prior that the this had happened. Yeah. And if you've gotten along that far. Without a big missing person case and search and police inquiries and warrants and searches and all that shit, why? Or if you lit the house on fire. I can kind of understand that, and this is all me trying to understand so I can understand that. But why are we calling the cops and being like. Whoops. Bring the

Dani 39:22

cadaver dogs,

Stephanie 39:23

bring the ca cadaver dogs to the house fire

Dani 39:26

though. Mm-hmm. What? you're not just gonna need a fire engine, you're gonna need dogs that find dead things. Why? Yes. So a lot going on. No motive. I just thought that, for me, this story was interesting. A'cause I couldn't find him. That was my biggest thing. Yeah, that's super suspicious. I'm what? Like he literally wouldn't show up. Literally would not show up on IDOC. Like

Stephanie 39:56

for months.

Dani 39:57

What the fuck? It was just like not, this doesn't exist. That'd be like me typing in my name or your name. And IDOC. We're not, I don't know. I've known you for a long time, Steph. I don't have, I don't have a prison ID number, knock on wood. Okay. Uh, so. You can search anybody that's been in IDOC and if they're out or not. It just tells you, this guy obviously did the crime.

Stephanie 40:22

Yeah. Like

Dani 40:22

this is a thing whole, it has been there. So for me not to even be able to locate him was weird. And it does say on the website, if you're unable to locate and contact, I'm 40 cases in. I have never found that to be the case. This was the one guy. Yeah. Very strange. and then I found that he had. Assaulted an officer and I was like, oh. So I just kept checking on him because I feel like that's the final point of my stories all the time is just to, Hey, lemme tell you how old they are, lemme tell you where they're at. Are they dead? Whatever. And this guy, I had no resolution, so I was just like, I'm just gonna let this sit here. And he finally popped up. But now he's in other gel,

Stephanie 41:07

other,

Dani 41:08

other gel. I dunno, I guess I could be ballsy and reach out to IDOC'cause you can, but I, you're not

Stephanie 41:16

always the best response. I think we've tried, haven't you tried that before? I feel like you have.

Dani 41:20

Uh, I've reached out for a few things unless you, you know, dot your i's and cross your t's a certain way and they're like, eh, go fuck yourself. So

Stephanie 41:29

they're like, we don't know what the fuck about shit. Mm-hmm.

Dani 41:32

But also this was, uh, 2015, so, uh. Within the last 10 years.

Stephanie 41:38

Yeah, that's my bad. I'm just

Dani 41:39

like, why do we not have, like, where are

Stephanie 41:42

you

Dani 41:43

bitch? Yeah. Why don't we have more, uh, motive? I don't know. I just feel like we should have had more.

Stephanie 41:55

Yeah, there should have been more deeds for sure. Something that cell, their cell phone records were definitely a thing.

Dani 42:02

Yeah. And maybe it's just they didn't need it because he is like, yeah, I mean they had him, I did it. Yeah, they had him dead to rights on it. I mean, he is like, you might wanna look for dead bodies at my house.

Stephanie 42:14

Fucking weird.

Dani 42:15

So,

Stephanie 42:15

yeah. Alright Danny, well thank you for another very intriguing Idaho case. Thank you guys at home for following, liking, subscribing, comments on tiktoks. We have so much fun. Thank you guys for commenting the cutest and most hilarious things ever. that's all I've got. Danny. Anything else?

Dani 42:38

No, that's all I got. Bye. Alright, bye. This podcast brought to you by that barking motherfucker. Harry,