54. Shattered Trust: Anna Old's Unforeseen End in Idaho

Dani and Stephanie head back to North Idaho for the story of Anna Old, a reliable, Harley-riding transplant who had recently returned to the Bonners Ferry area and was trying to untangle herself from a tense living situation with John Funkhouser. When Anna doesn’t show up for an early work shift, concern escalates fast, and what friends find at the house sets off a chain of events that ends in a high-stakes question for a jury: accident or deliberate act? Along the way, the hosts dig into red flags, jealousy, substance-fueled chaos, and the defense’s claim that the shooting was unintentional. They wrap with updates on old episodes, YouTube uploads, and how to send case tips.

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Transcript

Dani 0:00

On November 4th, 2011, a woman was found shot to death inside her home near Bonners Ferry, Idaho. She had been dead for nearly a day before anyone reported it. She didn't show up to work. Friends were worried and even went and drove to her house to find her.

Stephanie 0:18

Oh shit.

Dani 0:21

What followed. It was a trial that centered on whether it was an accident or a deliberate act.

Stephanie 0:34

Hmm. Interesting. welcome back to the Lethal Library. I'm Stephanie.

Dani 1:15

And

Stephanie 1:15

I'm Danny. And we are here to tell you yet another true crime story straight out of Tater land, AKA Idaho AKA, the 2 0 8. Uh, Danny's already given us a pretty good intro, and I do, I'm already interested into where this could be going. People are, I'm just

Dani 1:39

dumb no reason.

Stephanie 1:42

I mean, you know what, and I, I feel like that's the theme of a lot of our cases, what it actually boils down to when you reduce it and reduce it, people are dumb. And you know, I'll just give you a little, sometimes really stupid people tattle on themselves. Sure, sure. No, I think I, I've talked. Because what's funny is, and I don't know if you get this, Danny, is since, since I'm into True crime, and I wouldn't even consider myself a super fan, like I am not aware of all of the big cases and all of the, but I, I do listen to it on my commute and I like what we do, but I am not the expert by any means. And even with that, with what I've seen. From listening to hundreds of cases, us doing, I think this is over 50, I'm not sure when we're gonna release, but over 50 cases of our own. If you think you're smart enough to get away with a murder and for the true crime girlies, I know that that's a common thing of like, since I listen to so much, I could pull it off. I feel like I used to think that. And now really getting into things, it would have to be so perfect to be able to pull off the perfect crime. And I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the, the chances, I feel like you could win the lottery three times before getting away with a murder. For sure.

Dani 3:23

And unfortunately the people that get away with it are because it's not good investigators. It's not because they're genius, it's because shitty

Stephanie 3:32

investigation,

Dani 3:33

it's the justice system. And starting with

Stephanie 3:36

loopholes.

Dani 3:37

Yeah. And or just, you know, police, detectives just not give

Stephanie 3:43

it a fuck key or knowing what to do. I, I don't feel there's enough.

Dani 3:48

So it's not that you're special if you get away with it. It's, you had help because there's stupid people looking into

Stephanie 3:53

it. You got very lucky. Yeah. So it's luck. Just, people are always like, oh my gosh, you could probably murder someone. And I'm like, I wouldn't even dare.

Dani 4:02

No.

Stephanie 4:03

Like I wouldn't do it regardless.

Dani 4:05

Right.

Stephanie 4:05

But even knowing that I,

Dani 4:06

not the morality part, right? Like that's not a question. It wouldn't happen. But the just if you thought you were

Stephanie 4:12

sly enough, I would sly

Dani 4:12

enough. I

Stephanie 4:13

would never think that I was sly enough, because some people have been incredibly sly and plotted out. I love the one that I think Dateline covered recently. I've heard it a few times before in other podcasts, but where the husband pushed his wife's car down into a ravine on a snowy night and it was full gas cams. And then he ran

Dani 4:33

back and

Stephanie 4:33

yeah. And he got, had he tricked his mother into letting him borrow her car. And he had planned and planned and planned, turned his own security cameras off. Said he was going on a walk with the dogs. They're like, but funny you didn't show up on anyone else's security camera on the route. Yeah. Like

Dani 4:51

he

Stephanie 4:51

was

Dani 4:51

trying to be

Stephanie 4:51

super slim and he, he had planned this to, I won't say immaculate detail, but incredible detail that you don't normally see. And he still fucking failed. Failed at it

Dani 5:08

is, he was cheating on his wife. Right. Yes, yes,

Stephanie 5:11

yes. You

Dani 5:12

look, I'm all, yes. that's not a way to just get a divorce, bro. Anyway, don't be killing about it.

Stephanie 5:19

Please. Divorce is a tool and let's please keep that as a tool for,

Dani 5:25

and I think his girlfriend was married too, or whatever, his fling,

Stephanie 5:28

right? And it's both.

Dani 5:29

You get divorces and

Stephanie 5:30

leave

Dani 5:31

and deal with the consequences. And you know what? There's gonna be consequences too. A separation regardless of

Stephanie 5:38

you

Dani 5:38

cheating

Stephanie 5:38

or not, there's gonna a different lifestyle. So just take your lumps. I know. I know. Going from a dual income to a single income, especially in this economy,

Dani 5:46

I hate they were rich,

Stephanie 5:47

affects a lot of people. But just take your lumps. If you're over it, don't be murdering about it. Okay. Thank you. It'll be a lot simpler in in the short run, in the long run,

Dani 5:59

and he won't be in prison with

Stephanie 6:00

some big scary dude. And also. What I always think about is I feel like a lot of people that do the murdering, it is typically men, but sometimes the women are doing this as well. We've covered some

Dani 6:16

women

Stephanie 6:17

and, and they're murdering their husbands of thinking of what that really does to your children. I feel like that's largely absent both ways. Oh, yeah. Is. The father or whoever's murdering is only thinking of their own gain and what their life can look like, but not even thinking of the role that their mother, the mother, or the partner plays in the li in the children's lives. Mm-hmm. And how that's gonna affect them.

Dani 6:47

But these are typically narcissistic or off the rocker people.

Stephanie 6:50

So yeah. You got something truly wrong with you. Don't be out there murdering. Thank

Dani 6:57

you.

Stephanie 6:57

Stop.

Dani 6:58

That was a good PSA.

Stephanie 7:00

We might continue to use that if you hear that repeated. PSA, the more you know, we might think we're smart because we're listening to the true crime, but if there's anything that it's shown is there's always a breadcrumb left somewhere.

Dani 7:15

You can't plan it. resources used today, I got a variety here. Bonner County Daily Bee. the Times News, which I heart and Bonner's Fairy Harold,

Stephanie 7:29

I gotta say I love the name, the Daily Bee

Dani 7:32

that is very

Stephanie 7:34

cutesy, so cutesy.

Dani 7:37

Anna Karina, Jill Old, moved back to Idaho, in the Bonners Perry area in the spring of 2011 after living. For a time in Washington. She had previously lived in Alaska with her husband Mel, until his death from cancer. After being widowed, she relocated several times before returning to northern Idaho. Anna was a native of Sweden, but she had family in Sandpoint and Washington and was known in the Bonners Ferry area. And she was known for riding a yellow Harley motorcycle with her dog. Charlie in a sidecar

Stephanie 8:22

girl, get it.

Dani 8:24

She worked, occasional jobs for Wildwood Transportation and was described as reliable. Anna was very punctual. Victoria Rogers said If Anna said she was going to be there, she would be there. Okay. John August. Funkhouser had entered Anna's life after her husband's death and initially served as a source of support. Their relationship became romantic, but that didn't last. They remained connected and later lived together on Deep Creek Loop, in mm, hard word for me, and I should know this'cause it's an Idaho town, but I've never heard of it. Maura via. Anyways, it's south of Bonners Ferry.

Stephanie 9:18

Yeah, that's, that's,

Dani 9:19

we'll just leave it there.

Stephanie 9:20

Your guess is as good as mine. On that one.

Dani 9:23

They had moved to the Bonners Ferry area from the Washington coast, though it was not really clear if they moved together or whether he followed her.

Stephanie 9:33

Mm-hmm.

Dani 9:35

Hmm.

Stephanie 9:36

Could make a difference.

Dani 9:37

But inside the home, they did have separate bedrooms because they were romantically involved. They weren't, they're not sure how long that romantic, involvement was. Mm-hmm. But at some point it was broken.

Stephanie 9:51

And listen, I know that the separate bedrooms isn't, wasn't I should say, as common in these years. But now it's becoming even more common for people that are definitely romantically involved to have separate bedrooms or sleeping areas because listen, in this economy. We got to at least sleep. That's the one thing, this economy, hopefully we could find ways to have some rest.

Dani 10:24

And you all know how I hurt my sleep?

Stephanie 10:26

Oh, I, but

Dani 10:27

check out our TikTok.

Stephanie 10:28

I heart my sleep too. Even though, even though Danny and I are on different schedules, I can be an absolute baby when it comes to sleep and I'm, I'm a very punctual person. I'm a very go to work person. But if something happens to where I get like two hours of sleep in the night, I, I, I'm sorry. I know that I'm gonna be worthless. I, I could do it. I have done it. That is something that could make me maybe not show up or maybe show up half the day later or something

Dani 11:03

a little late. Yeah.

Stephanie 11:04

Oh, I'm gonna, I'm surely gonna be late. I'm

Dani 11:06

calling in sick. If I only get two hours of sleep, I'm just saying for whatever reason. I'm just saying

Stephanie 11:12

it's just sleep is so important and I, I think that especially in America, that's not, people are like, rise and grind, bitch. No, I'm not rising and grinding. I

Dani 11:24

got up at four this morning.

Stephanie 11:25

No, I need I, Tammy, you're fucking psychopath.

Dani 11:30

I didn't wanna get a oh four, but you know, us old people sleep. Anyway,

Stephanie 11:37

you're up getting your coffee.

Dani 11:39

I was, I was. I had three cups of coffee before 7:00 AM

Stephanie 11:43

Get it, girl. Whatever you gotta do, we, we gotta do what we gotta do.

Dani 11:48

I wish I would just give me a little, you know. Pep in my step and it's not doing it anymore'cause I'm such a

11:57

cop.

Stephanie 11:57

Like, what are we supposed to do in this economy? Cocaine.

Dani 12:03

Oh,

Stephanie 12:03

the

Dani 12:03

research would be abundance. Let me tell you. Daniel said, let me tell you, let me tell you

Stephanie 12:11

if, if cocaine was legalized. You'd be getting seven part episodes every time we would know his daily habits. Mm-hmm. All of his friends, personal interviews, court documents out the wazoo. We need money for that.

Dani 12:31

Yeah, definitely

Stephanie 12:32

need money in addition to cocaine. Just kidding. We're not doing cocaine. We don't have the desire to do cocaine. Well,

Dani 12:40

and nowadays, even if I wanted to ever try it, which I've never, ever partake. It's been

Stephanie 12:45

said. It has been said the, you can't trust it.

Dani 12:49

No, it scared the shit outta me. So not partaking. Anna told friends that she begun seeing someone new. And was attempting to hand her relationship with Funkhouser. She gave him a deadline to move out and offered to provide him with a travel trailer so that he would have a place to live. And

Stephanie 13:13

generous,

Dani 13:14

because Anna's being very generous. Like, this isn't working for me. I know we're roomies right now, but it still feels like you're fucking clingy.

Stephanie 13:22

But I got you a U-Haul.

Dani 13:24

yeah. Let me, I borrowed my friend's travel trailer. You can go live outside in, in the backyard. but I'm gonna keep doing me, but go on. Get Yeah, she's, go on. Get, yeah. She told those close to her that he was clingy and made her feel guilty about their relationship or lack thereof. She described Funkhouser, that he had a violent temper saying he would yell and throw things, although he never struck her.

Stephanie 13:55

We know how that works, and I just gotta touch on that. I know that this is more known now. If someone is throwing and breaking things around you, especially if it's consistent, they're just showing you what they would like to do to you. Truly, it's not okay ladies and some men, it is not okay on either side. We have to be adults and talk through things that's weird

Dani 14:27

and not pro per tantrums. Like we're nine,

Stephanie 14:30

yes or four. And, and I'll, I will say I've had people do that around me and it just gives me the immediate for one danger red flag, but secondly also the ick of like, what are we doing? are you a toddler? It's just, and most of the time they are. Mm-hmm. Negative 10 stars. Do not recommend.

Dani 14:53

Anna told her friends that he had fired a gun. At a television inside the home, leaving a bullet hole in the wall.

Stephanie 15:07

I'm sorry. Why are we shooting the television? if this was over a sports game or something, that would make me even more

Dani 15:16

No, he was just, he just had, she said that he had a, a violent temper.

Stephanie 15:22

Yeah. No, sh If, if the throwing things was a red flag. The shooting things is a dumpster fire in your bedroom? Yeah, like

Dani 15:32

that's an immediate, when Anna didn't arrive at work on November 4th, 2012, Victoria Rogers, owner of the Wildwood Transportation became concerned. Like she said, Anna was on time punctual. She had employed Anna on occasional basis. After receiving calls regarding her absence, Victoria went to the Deep Creek Loop residence to check on her quote. In my gut, I felt like something was wrong. She said,

Stephanie 16:04

and you know, if anyone's ever been like on a team or managed employees,

Dani 16:08

you just know

Stephanie 16:09

like,

Dani 16:09

oh, this person's late, they're getting coffee. this person

Stephanie 16:12

is never late,

Dani 16:13

or definitely never, no show, no call.

Stephanie 16:16

Mm-hmm. Not good.

Dani 16:19

So Victoria grabbed her son and went to the house. Smart move. Just to have another person

Stephanie 16:27

get eyes. We need eyes on the situation

Dani 16:30

when they arrived at the house, John Funkhouser leaned out of a second story window and asked what they wanted. Victoria said she told them they were looking for Anna, and he replied that she was at work, and Victoria's like, uh, no, she's, no, she's not. She's not Funkhouser. Then came out of the house. I knew when I saw him. Victoria said he was wasted, but not on alcohol. He could barely talk or walk.

Stephanie 17:04

What was it? What do you think he was wasted on? I think he was drunk.

Dani 17:14

I don't know. Maybe a side to I. Some people like to do a multitude of substances. Victoria said it appeared he was wearing a pair of Anna's shorts, which seemed unusual, and she saw dried blood on his forehead. Funkhouser told Victoria he did not know where Anna was. He said he had passed out at about 8:00 PM after Anna gave him some sleeping pills and that he had not seen her since. Hmm. He was all dumped up. Victoria said she contacted the sheriff's department shortly afterward and reported his unusual behavior. My friend is missing, or my employee obviously still a friend. Mm-hmm. If she's driving out to check on her. and I showed up and her roommate is acting like a fucking idiot. He's got blood on him. He's trashed.

Stephanie 18:13

Thought she was at work, she certainly wasn't at work.

Dani 18:17

So I think this kind of shook funkhouser into some kind of a little bit of

Stephanie 18:26

snap out of it

Dani 18:27

reality game because, at about 1 45, Funkhouser called 9 1 1 and told dispatchers he wanted to report a murder

Stephanie 18:37

report, a murder. Not a missing person.

Dani 18:41

He told the dispatcher that he had shot and killed Anna in the Deep Creek loop home that they shared. What a revelation. This guy's a fucking dba. Deputies arrived at the residence at about 2:00 PM 15 minutes for that call. Golly. Could make it. Might have been it. I'd

Stephanie 19:03

be, I'd be skirt skirting, I'd be Tokyo drifting. I, and listen, this is a more rural place. We haven't even heard of the town. We've lived in Idaho our whole lives. Yeah.

Dani 19:13

I'm like,

Stephanie 19:13

so who knows how long it takes to, it

Dani 19:15

might've been a little haul. Right. Just like that one we did where it was like it was faster to drive to this sheriff's office.

Stephanie 19:21

Mm-hmm.

Dani 19:21

Versus going to the sheriff's office. It was actually the county it was in. So anyways, I Sure, I imagine it was rural. So 15 minutes. Not a bad time, but still it's, somebody just said I'd be murdering Bet

Stephanie 19:36

I'd be wanting to get their

Dani 19:38

I bet you they were Tokyo drifting. I, I feel

Stephanie 19:40

they could have been Tokyo drifting.

Dani 19:44

Uh, they got there about 2:00 PM and, and, they met Funkhouser outside of the home. He was taken into custody without incidents inside the residence. Boundary County Chief Deputy Rich Stevens made first contact with Anna's body, which had been covered with a yellow floral pattern comforter. She appeared to have been dead for some time. She had been dead for an undetermined amount of time. When we arrived on scene, Steven said a single gunshot is what killed her. Officer, secured the residence and begin collecting evidence. Please do a good job,

Stephanie 20:26

please.

Dani 20:27

Items recovered at the scene included a 38 caliber handgun, two bullet casings, a box of 38 ammunition, a liquor bottle.

Stephanie 20:38

Liquor.

Dani 20:40

Liquor.

Stephanie 20:41

That's liquor

Dani 20:42

and a liquor store receipt. You're getting the damn thing done.

Stephanie 20:47

Mm-hmm.

Dani 20:49

And funk, houser's vomit was found in the bathroom sink. You couldn't even make it to the toilet, bro.

Stephanie 20:57

Yeah. Who's puking in the sink if there's a toilet? I mean,

Dani 21:01

somebody who's on fucking sleeping pills and drinking.

Stephanie 21:06

And maybe.

Dani 21:07

Or maybe,

Stephanie 21:07

maybe did something crazy.

Dani 21:09

Yeah. And made you stick to your stomach.'cause morally it should. One bullet casing was later determined not to be related to the shooting.

Stephanie 21:21

Why is there unrelated casings? What was happening in this house? Very strange.

Dani 21:27

I wonder if that was the bullet casing for the tv. Maybe.

Stephanie 21:31

Great point. Fantastic point. Why we be shooting up the house. Why is this a regular I occurrence

Dani 21:41

and I just want, the reason you think I don't know my story is because I've researched it and then we record later and I couldn't tell you what episode 47 was at this point. It's like you get, get, we

Stephanie 21:53

can't hold that

Dani 21:54

information. Yeah. So a lot of, I'm like, I don't know if I wrote this down'cause I don't know if I wrote it down or not, but you've

Stephanie 22:00

got the feeling

Dani 22:01

I got. I got it in my brain somewhere if I dig deep enough. Funkhouser told deputies and an Idaho State police investigator that he had shot Anna. He was arrested of the scene and booked into the Bounty County Jail as Idaho State Police and the Boundary County Sheriff's Office continued their investigation and during the investigation, Funkhouser admitted that he had been unemployed and had been depressed over the breakup. You know, I just kind of feel like Anna didn't think it was a breakup. She's like, you know what? This just isn't for me. She's like,

Stephanie 22:35

we're parting ways. I'm, I'm

Dani 22:38

breakup is just like, I don't know the depth. Like maybe they were friends and then maybe they had a few

Stephanie 22:46

benefits.

Dani 22:47

They

Stephanie 22:47

had a few benefits,

Dani 22:48

and then she was like, eh, not for me. And, and

Stephanie 22:52

especially living at my house. Because listen, friends with benefits is a lot easier if you do not live together. Mm-hmm. Living together with anyone. I don't care if it's your best friend, your sister, your brother, your mother. Like,

Dani 23:07

no.

Stephanie 23:08

That is a whole different thing. So she could have been like, oh, this is not working. Which is, from what I'm hearing, I could fair. I could totally say fair. Yeah.

Dani 23:22

Say fair sis. Yeah. but I don't know. He, I think a breakup is being a little dramatic as far as

Stephanie 23:28

their status, their relationship. Yeah. I wonder if she was alive, if she would've ca classified it that way.

Dani 23:32

Right. I just,

Stephanie 23:33

where she would've been like, no. Yeah. We, we fooled around

Dani 23:36

Yes.

Stephanie 23:37

Certain times, but, but we were not boyfriend and girlfriend because, so I wonder

Dani 23:43

Yeah. I'm surprised you didn't say

Stephanie 23:46

I was just going through a divorce and it made me depressed

Dani 23:49

and you weren't even married. Bitch. All right, go get. He said he believed Anna might have been seeing someone else. She was, he owned a subcompact 38 caliber Grindle Petin semi-automatic handgun, which he said he kept to deal with the predators that had been killing his chickens. Okay.

Stephanie 24:17

I can even somewhat get behind that because

Dani 24:21

rural, yeah. Uh, look, if you live out, if you live out, if you're not sitting in the subdivision,

Stephanie 24:28

but a 38 for what pre, like are we talking coyotes?

Dani 24:33

Maybe? Yeah. I mean,

Stephanie 24:35

mountain lions may, I feel like that's more of like a mountain lion bear. 38.

Dani 24:40

Yeah.

Stephanie 24:41

I feel like a 38 can put something down and listen, you're allowed to put it down however you want.

Dani 24:47

Yeah,

Stephanie 24:48

but don't they call a 38, I feel like it has the reputation of a woman scorned uses a 38. Yeah. Is that, am I wrong?

Dani 25:00

No, I

Stephanie 25:00

think you're

Dani 25:00

right.

Stephanie 25:01

Okay. I'm not a super, super gun person, but a 30, 38 special.

Dani 25:05

Yeah.

Stephanie 25:05

Like, that's what, well, that's always, that's what you used to, to shoot your husband.

Dani 25:11

I have a 38. That's the gun I chose.

Stephanie 25:14

Jared.

Dani 25:18

No, look, I have it specifically to go fishing. It's

Stephanie 25:21

a good gun.

Dani 25:23

Uh, I didn't want a heavy gun. Mm-hmm. So mine's super light because look,

Stephanie 25:27

so that's why it has this reputation.

Dani 25:29

I am not, and it's not a big gun for me. and I, it's. Manageable. And it's actually a revolver, you know, you have to click. Like it's not an automatic, it's not gonna unintentionally go like you have to, but

Stephanie 25:44

a revolver leaves no casings.

Dani 25:47

Correct. Look at you stuff. But you do have to, yeah, it's,

Stephanie 25:52

I'm thinking of other court cases where I've heard like that, and that's where I know have a little bit of knowledge is like, I know that it doesn't leave a casing. It's not popping out a casing. However people have been judged because you have to make the conscious decision to cop back. No,

Dani 26:08

and that's why I

Stephanie 26:09

chose and do it again and do it again.

Dani 26:11

I chose that gun because I wanted to make sure it was very intentional if it went off, because I'm not, I am not carrying it. I didn't, I didn't want a gun.

Stephanie 26:21

Well, and who knows how you're gonna react, so at least

Dani 26:23

I did not want, I don't even wanna carry a gun

Stephanie 26:25

on my head, but Danny does need a gun because the area that she's fishing. There are mountain lions.

Dani 26:29

I go fish by myself a lot and we have very large cats

Stephanie 26:33

bears,

Dani 26:34

and you know, I'm not even, I used to be scared of bears. I see their scout all the time.

Stephanie 26:40

For the most part, bears do not want nothing to do

Dani 26:42

with one cats will fucking stalk you and that scares the shit outta me because you can't even hear when you're down on the water. So after Nin Nez two showed up at our cabin in one year,

Stephanie 26:52

done,

Dani 26:53

I said, dad, I need to buy a gun. And he took me and bought me a gun and I've shot it literally. Five times in a can, just so I know what it feels like. And then when I go fishing by myself, I have it, but I hate it. I fucking hate, I don't wanna carry a gun. But

Stephanie 27:09

the calibers of guns do have a reputation for what they're for. Doesn't mean that that's the only thing they're for.

Dani 27:16

No,

Stephanie 27:16

but I've always heard a 38. It's for shooting. That's it. That's it's for shooting your husband. It does fit in a purse. It, and that's probably why the lightness, the not putting the casing. No, I,

Dani 27:30

it's very manageable for me. So, but also with that same thing, Anna had been telling people that she'd been, she was moving the chickens to a friend's house because they were getting killed. So. Some validity to there that he was worried about the chickens. Mm-hmm. I get that.

Stephanie 27:50

And you do need to protect your farmland and your livestock. You do

Dani 27:54

need

Stephanie 27:54

to like

Dani 27:54

protect those egg layers. I love eggs.

Stephanie 27:57

Or even if you have like goats or sheep.

Dani 28:00

Yeah,

Stephanie 28:01

sometimes you gotta shoot an animal that's coming after them.

Dani 28:04

You gotta do her detective said on the evening of November 3rd, 2011, Anna was inside the home. She shared with Funkhouser. She had put on her nightgown and was preparing to retire early for a 3:30 AM work shift the following morning.

Stephanie 28:24

Ooh.

Dani 28:26

But at some point between five 30 and 7:30 PM Funkhouser entered her bedroom where a 38 caliber handgun rested on top of a dresser. He picked up the weapon and pressed it against the back of her head to quote, get her attention. He said she moved or twisted away and the gun discharged. This is the excuse.

Stephanie 28:57

This is as good as it gets piss poor, and I just cannot, the, the laughing is because it is truly ridiculous. It is truly re

Dani 29:10

we're not, we're not laughing at, I

Stephanie 29:12

decided to, I decided to go in someone's room and put a gun to their head, and then they squirmed weirdly, why did they have to squirm so weirdly?

Dani 29:21

I wouldn't have shot'em if she

Stephanie 29:22

hadn't Stay the fuck out of people's rooms and don't put guns to their heads. You stupid. Fuck.

Dani 29:29

Thank you.

Stephanie 29:30

I, I know that was, I just with some of the shit, Danny, I'm like. Any normal person, male or female, someone comes into your room and puts a gun to the back of your head.

Dani 29:48

It's not like, Hey, how you doing?

Stephanie 29:50

Or

29:51

we

Dani 29:51

should, I like, what the fuck are you doing?

Stephanie 29:54

So whether they have a gun or not, I'm jumping.

Dani 29:57

Yeah, I, and she was already fully aware of his violent tendencies.

Stephanie 30:01

Mm-hmm.

Dani 30:01

She'd already told friends

Stephanie 30:02

she wants him to go

Dani 30:03

and she wants him out of there. Oh, sis, why'd you have that gun out?

Stephanie 30:07

The jealousy, the weird cleanness. No women know and so women again, but you know, you, your intuition is telling you that for a reason.

Dani 30:16

But she probably didn't think that he would.

Stephanie 30:19

Oh no, you never do. You like things are getting a little weird. I'm trying to calm the waters. Like this isn't working. Amiable. She was getting him a truck herself. Like, I will help you. I'm still being nurturing.

Dani 30:38

That's what we do.

Stephanie 30:41

This is

Dani 30:41

gonna drive me fucking

Stephanie 30:42

crazy, Danny.

30:54

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Dani 32:32

The bullet entered Anna's right lower neck and exited under her left eye, killing her Instantly. She fell outside of her bedroom and when she was found she was curled up on her left side. With blood pooled beneath her body indicating that she hadn't been moved from where she fell.

Stephanie 32:55

Okay?

Dani 32:57

An empty bullet casing, consistent with a weapon was found near her right foot. The handgun was later located on the kitchen table and there was no evidence of physical struggle, but she turned and surprised him

Stephanie 33:15

right after he had. Went into her room to get

Dani 33:21

her attention. After the shooting, Funkhouser covered her body with a yellow floral pad com comforter. He sustained a laceration to his forehead, which he said occurred when he fell down the basement stairs. I'm only giggling because he was fucked up,

Stephanie 33:41

and it sounds like he's just a general dipshit, so

Dani 33:45

you deserve that.

Stephanie 33:46

Yeah.

Dani 33:47

Inside the residence, investigators later recovered. Like I said, that liquor bottle, the ammunition, the vomit Anna had remained in inside the home through the whole following drunk ass or whatever. He was on day.

Stephanie 34:06

Mm-hmm.

Dani 34:07

Right. Coming out in her shorts with blood on her, his forehead to talk to her friend

Stephanie 34:13

to wear a women's pair of shorts in. What year was this? 2011.

Dani 34:18

11.

Stephanie 34:20

There were most women were not wearing like basketball shorts. This was the era of like juicy couture shorts that you roll up, or even the Sophie shorts

Dani 34:34

or maybe even some cute cargoes. But they're not fitting a man.

Stephanie 34:38

No. Yeah. What? Why in the fuck are you wearing, and this isn't. Anything to be hateful, but no man living at another woman's house with supposedly their own clothes or something as an alternative. Women's shorts,

Dani 34:59

that's my first pick.

Stephanie 35:01

Very, don't have a

Dani 35:02

shirt. You pair of sweatpants hanging around.

Stephanie 35:04

No sweats. No. No

Dani 35:06

bag of jeans make you feel comfy. Nothing.

Stephanie 35:08

Yeah,

Dani 35:09

I mean, this is November.

Stephanie 35:11

But even some flare pants, some tighter.'cause that was, it was not the skinny jeans area yet.

Dani 35:17

No.

Stephanie 35:19

Some flare pants that on a thin man would just look like probably regular pants. No, this is, or even just your own underwear. Your own boxer briefs.

Dani 35:31

Yeah. Go ahead bro.

Stephanie 35:33

Wear are your clothes. You have no clothes. That you could wear to answer the

Dani 35:38

door. Do you need to do some fucking laundry, bro,

Stephanie 35:40

or no?

Dani 35:42

It just,

Stephanie 35:42

it

Dani 35:42

really just

Stephanie 35:45

suspicious.

Dani 35:47

I think the utter chaos and his

Stephanie 35:53

grab something,

Dani 35:54

put it on inebriation that he was under, whether it's those sleeping pills and he just, there was definitely not a thought process there.

Stephanie 36:01

Mm-hmm.

Dani 36:03

But Anna laid there for 22 fucking hours in that house before he called my house at best. Yeah. On November 10th, 2011, Funkhouser was charged with second degree murder in Boundary County Court for the shooting death of Anna Old. She was 43. He remained, in jail on a million dollar bond, and a preliminary hearing was scheduled for November 18th before Judge Don Swanstrom. I hope I nailed that. If convicted, he faced. 10 years to life. I do not like these low limits.

Stephanie 36:50

That's such a, it. I, I feel like it doesn't set enough precedent. 10 years to life, 10 years when you can probably get out in five versus living the rest of your life. That's incredibly different.

Dani 37:08

I just feel like the standards should be much higher for murder.

Stephanie 37:12

Can we get the second degree? Can we get it more, more defined?

Dani 37:15

Yeah. Such a big gap. Like I just, yeah.

Stephanie 37:18

And I understand the need to take it on a case by case.'cause there's other aggravating factors of things that you can be like, well they did X, Y, Z, which are the technical aggravating factors. But still like the, the possibility that someone could get off with five years or maybe even less than that. Mm-hmm. For a murder. Wow, I don't know about that.

Dani 37:50

Rich Stevens, boundary County chief Deputy Sheriff stated that there was no history of violence, of funk, Houser's background. Did you check the tv bro?

Stephanie 37:59

Why was the TV shot? TV didn't, didn't give nothing to nobody.

Dani 38:04

Wasn't even talking back.

Stephanie 38:05

Hello?

Dani 38:07

After a search warrant was issued, the Bounty Boundary County Sheriff's Office recovered the murder weapon described as that small silver handgun. Stevens addressed the nature of the charge and the relationship between the two. We are trying to be careful of characterizing funk houser's as old's boyfriend referring to Anna. Old Steven said, All we know is that there may have been a romantic relationship there prior to this, and that may have led to what had happened. He further explained the meaning of the charge. It was not premeditated murder and not an accident. It wasn't intentional. And it, we are trying to prove it. Steven said,

Stephanie 38:51

and that's tough to prove. Not premeditate, not premeditated, but not an accident. So not So it wasn't premeditated, but you did meditate

Dani 39:06

and it wasn't a Oopsie. No. And that's why he is like, but it was not an accident because that's funk, houser's whole thing right now.

Stephanie 39:14

Mm-hmm. Like I was just trying to snuggle up to her, and the gun happened to be at the base of her head as I was saying. Hello.

Dani 39:24

Just trying to, will you talk to

Stephanie 39:26

me? Has anyone ever tried to say hello to a woman while she's sleeping and just give a cutesy little snuggle

Dani 39:34

with the muzzle of a gun?

Stephanie 39:35

I thought the women loved to cuddle. Oh. Oh, okay.

Dani 39:40

Fucking deal.

Stephanie 39:40

I guess I'm wrong, huh?

Dani 39:43

Funkhouser remained in custody as the investigation continued. A competency evaluation was ordered before he entered a plea. His public defender, Sarah Woods, requested the preliminary hearing to be postponed so he could undergo the evaluation. After passing the competency evaluation, he faced the charge in court and later entered a not guilty plea on April 23rd, and the case was separate trial. I probably should have looked at that plea.

Stephanie 40:17

Yeah. Might have been a better opportunity

Dani 40:19

for you actually. Rot fucker rot. the second degree murder trial of Funkhouser was set for August 27th, 2012. Boundary County Deputy Prosecutor Holt told jurors that Funkhouser reacted irrationally and selfishly to Anna's demand that he move out of the home. And I'm telling you, I don't think. Demand was, she probably was like, Hey, I, I just think demand's a stronger, I don't think Anna was like, get the fuck out. I think it was more like, Hey, to

Stephanie 40:52

get someone a truck. Yeah. To help them, instead of just throwing their shit out. And Can I just say, I feel like this is a very unique sect of men, so I'm not saying all men. Disclosure, but I feel like there are so many men that they get with a woman that has their own car, own house, own job.

Dani 41:14

Oh, you talked

Stephanie 41:14

about this. And, and then they are like, and they, you can find it by the way that they say things, honey, I'm using the car. The car, do you mean my car?

Dani 41:30

Yes.

Stephanie 41:31

And so then, so then they're like. You see these girls and women that are being dropped off at their own jobs by these, and this is not a term that I coined, but I think it's hobo sexuals like homeless. And so they're getting with a woman to essentially be like, I could have my own car if I just used her car. And it now. Without marriage, without anything else. They're like, it's theirs. This is my life. So this house being hers or this apartment, whatever it is. And him being like, but this is my house. I can, that, that's the vibes I'm getting. That's why I am providing this context.

Dani 42:15

And I would just like to remind everybody he was unemployed at the time.

Stephanie 42:20

And so, but yeah, that, that term I didn't coin don't. Love it, but it's still, I, I feel like I can see why people use that term because you're homeless, but you're specifically targeting

Dani 42:36

shocking up with

Stephanie 42:38

women that can support you. And Babe, I'm look, I'm look and listen. I've been with a man like this. I put in 12 applications today.

Dani 42:47

Did you though?

Stephanie 42:50

Spoiler alert, they didn't, they were not put in. There was no plan of ever getting a job. You know, you, I think women, we want to prop people up and see the potential and, and this and that. And in some cases it might work. Overall, it does not work. Stop doing that.

Dani 43:12

Defense counsel Linda Payne argued that while Funkhouser was inebriated. And acting reckless with a firearm. There was no evidence that her client meant to kill Anna.

Stephanie 43:24

It was a oopsie judge

Dani 43:27

do. If you point a gun at anybody, then your full intention is to kill them,

Stephanie 43:32

and in some cases, even if you do not pull the trigger, you are judged accordingly. Like with brandishing, even in, even in Stand Your Ground states or Castle doctrine states. If you are pulling a gun on someone outside of their home, I

Dani 43:48

wish I knew what the minimum sen, I wish I knew what the sentencing range for that was. What? I bet you it's not less than five

Stephanie 43:59

or maybe you might not get prison.'cause I will tell you that I've known of an acquaintance, acquaintance's, acquaintance that was in a road rage incident where someone was road raging them and followed them into their own neighborhood and they kind of did like a little. Youi because they were like, I can't go to my house. Right. Don't wanna, I don't wanna go to my house. Yeah. And they had a gun in the car and they brandished it and the other person left. That person was, had no prior convictions, lost all their guns, became a, I don't know what the charge was, but they became a felon. Couldn't vote. I don't think that they got any jail time they could have. Um, but. So to know that someone who actually shot someone could get realistically five years is wild to me. Yeah.

Dani 44:49

I should have looked that up. Dammit. it was presented in, the trial that they were a former couple who kept separate bedrooms in the time leading up to the shooting. Funkhouser acknowledged he pressed the gun to the back of her head to get her attention

Stephanie 45:06

because

Dani 45:07

there's

Stephanie 45:07

no other

Dani 45:07

way to do it.

Stephanie 45:08

I'm s. The Bullshittery. I don't know how we can get

Dani 45:15

past that. And you know what? That his defense attorney let him lead with. This is dumb.

Stephanie 45:22

Listen, y'all haven't ever had to get someone's attention by pressing a firearm into the base of their neck, into their skull.

Dani 45:30

And then of course, we got the part where he says. The weapon discharge when she moved. Not even my

Stephanie 45:37

fucking fault,

Dani 45:38

bro,

Stephanie 45:39

if she would've just not moved. I mean, I'm sorry. You can't keep calm when a gun is at the base of your neck. Are you dumb? Like that's, that's what I'm feeling from the defense of like, well, fuck, don't be jumpy when someone is threatening your life with a gun at the base of your neck and you, this won't happen to you. I hate it. I hate it. That was me. Thumbs down. Zero. Zero out of 10 stars for the defense. Like I just don't, this is why I always struggle with defense.'cause I feel like they have to be so ride or die for their clients and really stand behind their argument. And I understand that. Come with a better story. Do that. They have better

Dani 46:24

story. A why did you even fucking look? And fuck him. I'm not saying this, but as a defense, I don't, he deserves everything gets, I don't know how

Stephanie 46:35

people do it,

Dani 46:37

but as a defense attorney, I'd be like, you dba you fucking talked to the police and told him that you actually shot and,

Stephanie 46:46

and I'm not standing behind that as your defense. So

Dani 46:48

we need to change

Stephanie 46:49

some stories.

Dani 46:50

Okay. Find a good one that's halfway believable.'cause that ain't it.

Stephanie 46:56

Because,'cause that's your reputation, that's your career. And listen, I understand that it's important for our defense system or our judicial system, that you have someone that goes 10 toes down for you, right? Or

Dani 47:10

die for you. Yeah,

Stephanie 47:11

yeah, yeah. And, and you deserve that. But I just. For the people that do it, I'm just in awe of them and it, that's what I've learned.'cause some people go on Dateline 10 years later when there's like DNA evidence, camera evidence and they're like, I'm sorry, my client wasn't there. What? My client just simply wasn't there. It was just someone that looked exactly like them with their exact same DNA profile. They probably have a twin out there somewhere and nobody knew it. And they're like,

Dani 47:42

twinning.

Stephanie 47:44

That's, is that your man?

Dani 47:46

That's my

Stephanie 47:47

man, man. And I'm sticking by him. Shut up. I could never props to those that do. What the fuck?

Dani 47:56

Mm-hmm. Jurors heard closing arguments after four days of proceedings. So short trial relatively for a murder trial. I mean, we've seen shorter,

Stephanie 48:07

good deliberation though. Four days? Was that what it was?

Dani 48:10

No, uh, no. That's just four days of proceeding. So the jurors heard closing arguments after court. Okay. After several hours of deliberation, the jury returned a unanimous verdict finding John August Funkhouser guilty of second degree murder. The verdict concluded that the homicide. It was not premeditated, but deliberate.

Stephanie 48:33

Yeah.

Dani 48:35

emotion by the, the defense to have the case heard outside of Boundary County due to pretrial publicity was fucking denied before all of this. And Funkhouser remained in custody while sentencing was pending on November 1st, 2012, so almost to a year straight up. Funkhouser was sentenced to a fixed six years in prison and an indeterminate 30 years. The range does not

Stephanie 49:11

make sense.

Dani 49:15

he was credited with his 352 days served. That's how close we were to 365 restitution, was to be determined. And court costs of$240 were imposed.

Stephanie 49:27

Oh yeah. Ouch.

Dani 49:28

And first and first District court, uh, judge John F. Mitchell addressed Funkhouser directly. I do sense some remorse in your role of killing Anna Old Mitchell said. Adding that Funkhouser appeared more concerned with what was going to happen to him than with Anna's death and his part in it. That's disturbing. The judge said he addressed funk houser's statements that the firearm was touchy and that Anna backed into him causing it to fire, and he said, nah. He rejected that explanation. The evidence shows that you pulled the trigger, Mitchell said. He stated there was no proof. The gun was fired more than once that day, and noted that Funkhouser knew the power of the pistol. He poked against Anna's neck since he had previously fired it and had attempted to shoot himself with it two weeks prior. Hello? Well, he was depressed. Don't kill about it bro.

Stephanie 50:43

Hmm.

Dani 50:44

He also addressed that the claim that Anna suffered from a fatal illness and rejected it. So I did not write this in here because Sounds like a wild

Stephanie 50:53

goose

Dani 50:53

chase. It. It was something about having some kind of ovarian, some

Stephanie 50:59

that she

Dani 50:59

wanted lady part

Stephanie 51:01

that she wanted to shoot herself in the back of

Dani 51:03

the head. Yeah. It was some lady part illness, that he was claiming that she had. This is why I didn't even put this in here because it was so stupid. It's not a terminal illness. And so I would

Stephanie 51:15

Endometriosis or poly myo or poly,

Dani 51:19

I feel it

Stephanie 51:19

cystic

Dani 51:20

it that, I think that was it. It was like a big long name, but it's not terminal poly

Stephanie 51:24

ovarian. S there's a word. I know the

Dani 51:27

word wasn't even it.

Stephanie 51:29

Polycystic ovarian syndrome. P-P-C-O-S. Okay. Or endometriosis. Those are the most common. It was a something

Dani 51:38

I could go look at my full notes and find that, but I wasn't even gonna acknowledge it.

Stephanie 51:43

Of what, that's why she jerked back when I had a gun to her neck

Dani 51:47

because she

Stephanie 51:48

wanted

Dani 51:48

to. It was,

Stephanie 51:48

but

Dani 51:49

I'm not even gonna put that in there. Shut. But the judge addressed it at the end of court, so now I have to feel like I have to say something about it.

Stephanie 51:56

Yeah.

Dani 51:56

Um, but yeah, no, she. Eh, funk. Houser's a fucking liar.

Stephanie 52:03

Yep.

Dani 52:03

Mitchell, the, the judge said, I find you not credible, and the court did consider a letter submitted in support of Funkhouser and a letter from Anna's mother, Jill Gunderson, quote, the person who could shed the shed. The most light on this you've killed. Mitchell said

Stephanie 52:22

precisely.

Dani 52:25

Currently this motherfucker, John Funkhouser, is 75 years old and in custody at the Idaho State Correctional

Stephanie 52:36

Institution, as in my opinion, he should remain. So six years, the possibility that he would get six years. And listen, I don't agree with the process and the policy and what led to that. But now looking back on it, on hindsight, in hindsight I should say giving, and this is what is, I'm a little revengeful. So giving someone when they hear six years and being like, oh my God, I could be out. I'm gonna be out in six. I just gotta mind my Ps and Qs, and that that does not happen. And. I think that we can all imagine any, even if it's not in jail, like I think I'm going to be here in four years or move here or get this house or have a goal within this many and how hurtful that is, and to be in prison and think that I'm going to do everything I can to make it out in six. And you don't?

Dani 53:46

No, because it has actually been

Stephanie 53:49

turmoil.

Dani 53:50

15 years

Stephanie 53:52

turmoil.

Dani 53:53

It's been 15 years. He's been sitting in jail

Stephanie 53:55

almost three times that amount, and I hope that it continues. Another one, another one.

Dani 54:03

Another one. Denied. Denied, denied because

Stephanie 54:12

I think most women have have dealt with like a roommate situation or a weird. Any type of situationship or boyfriend. Imagine a boyfriend snuggling up to you and placing a gun at the base of your neck, the back of your skull. And then there they're like, she jumped back. I had it went, the gun went off. Why the fuck are you in my, and they had separate rooms. Yeah. So it's even more

Dani 54:43

that, it's even more defined. But she had to be, I'm just gonna tell you because she, she was not, oh, I just wanna make it clear. She was not in her bed, so there was no sneaking in and snuggling because how she fell was outside. She was kind of outside of her door. So what are we doing?

Stephanie 55:10

We're not snuggling.

Dani 55:12

Ling your defense. Your defense is your lies. We're not lying. And your defense was not defensing, if that's a word. And Rot and Anna, she seemed like a badass woman. She's out there, you know,

Stephanie 55:28

has her own place.

Dani 55:29

Yeah. Her

Stephanie 55:29

own things.

Dani 55:30

And she's still, you know, her husband of many, many years had died of cancer, so she. You know, as she was seasoned and you, and then you get to the well beyond her years. Yeah. And you mourn that. But then the excitement of a new life and there was somebody there supporting her. Look, it's easy to do. But then she's like, oh wait, now I got my bearings. This is,

Stephanie 55:51

this is not what I was

Dani 55:52

not looking for. This is not what I need. And she had met somebody new that was probably like, oh yeah, I'm down. This is fun. And then for this,

Stephanie 56:03

or even if not, even if she wasn't even feeling it, she's like, I absolutely don't want that.

Dani 56:07

Right.

Stephanie 56:08

That's not what I'm looking for.

Dani 56:09

Well, and she made that perfectly clear. It's not gonna work because before that, I mean she was already like, eh, no. But I think that her, they were roommates and then she roommates and then she started, maybe had some interest in somebody else and she's like, oh, you absolutely have to get the fuck outta my house now. Like, I was being nice before

Stephanie 56:33

and,

Dani 56:33

but now I need to live my life. You can

Stephanie 56:35

tell

Dani 56:35

that someone is

Stephanie 56:36

leaching off of you. Yeah. And she's like, yeah, that's not, I'm cool to help a friend. This is not helping a friend. This is, you want me to be, you wanna be a parasite? Hey, funk

Dani 56:47

houser. Go get a fucking job, bro. Yeah.

Stephanie 56:49

Funk Hauser.

Dani 56:53

I hope your ramen noodle is always cold.

Stephanie 56:57

And I hope your pillow's hot on all sides and your mattress is fucking hery. I love it. Anyway, Danny, thank you. I'm surprised I haven't heard about this one before because what the fuck, and we even learned about Idaho towns that we, I

Dani 57:17

need to go look that up.

Stephanie 57:18

As an Idaho native, we, I feel like we know about a lot of tiny towns. And maybe I've heard it before, I don't know, but I just, and maybe I love it for us completely butcher the

Dani 57:27

name. Hey,

Stephanie 57:29

let

Dani 57:29

me know.

Stephanie 57:30

How do we say it?

Dani 57:31

Send us an email,

Stephanie 57:32

quick Email the lethal library at gmail com and you can

Dani 57:34

yell at me. Look, if I had to look up pronunciation for every word that was different last name, I would, I would just it and I, I do it a lot and I still say it wrong.

Stephanie 57:45

And the pronunciations, we will look up like four or five pronunciations and be like, okay, I think this one is the one that fits. Or we'll try several. And often every single one is wrong. We're trying, we're trying best, best foot forward. Um, also, we have probably mentioned this in a few episodes, but just in case you've been skipping around and bi bebopping, that's fine. But we had, most of our episodes were not available to download. So if you haven't been here since the beginning, um, every single episode since the beginning. Please be gentle. We were figuring out audio and editing strategies, but theyre available. This is first

Dani 58:30

time

Stephanie 58:31

we, we never did do it before. And so that there, there are certainly some things that we know now that we didn't know then, but. Not,

Dani 58:44

the stories are still there.

Stephanie 58:45

The stories are there and we, I'm not gonna take'em down. Yeah. Like I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with them. I think they're great stories, great banter,

Dani 58:56

I'm telling you.

Stephanie 58:56

But just know if the audio sounds a little funk. If editing sounds a little chopped, choppy. We didn't have any clue what the fuck we're doing. so

Dani 59:09

yeah, no, we don't do this for a living. We don't know anybody who does, but

Stephanie 59:14

we'd love to.

Dani 59:16

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Stephanie 59:18

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Dani 59:21

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Stephanie 59:30

I think we've got one ready to go

Dani 59:33

and, email us with any ideas. I appreciate the case ideas. I just, the last week I recorded a case idea from, a listener. I look into'em. If there's the, the only reason I won't do it is if there's not enough.

Stephanie 59:48

We mostly rely on newspaper for Danny's research,

Dani 59:53

um,

Stephanie 59:53

court cases and stuff. Spending spending and the baby

Dani 59:55

stuff. Oh, children. I have a hard time with them. Very pick picky.

Stephanie 1:00:00

Yeah,

Dani 1:00:01

I have done a couple, but I have to make sure it's just not sensationalizing. The murder of a child. I wanna make sure that there's more to that in the story, meaning a fucked up investigation.

Stephanie 1:00:12

Yeah. And those are just tough, I mean, for anyone Yeah. To discuss. And

Dani 1:00:16

so, so they're not my favorite. I contemplate those. So I, I have done a couple, but not my favorite thing to do. So, because we can find really fucking stupid people like this guy

Stephanie 1:00:29

mm-hmm.

Dani 1:00:30

That just, sums it

Stephanie 1:00:31

up so. Well, thank you guys again for supporting. Um, by the time you hear this, it'll probably be at at least 53 episodes, so I feel like that's kind of a feat. we appreciate your support. Oh, we're on YouTube. Danny's, right. So listen. there are our 10 most recent episodes released on YouTube. They are just audio only, just with the logo. But we've heard that people like to use that as their listening platform, which was very new to us. We didn't know that that's how people were listening because pod, because we just podcast on the podcast apps. We, well, we listen to podcasts a lot. I would never, there's maybe one podcast that I would think of. Watching as well. But of the 10 hundreds of podcasts I listen to. I'm, I'm talking truly maybe one but no shade. If that's how you like to listen. That's your, that's your girly. We're there now, so our 10 more most recent episodes will be there. We'll be releasing slowly. Video will be available soon. There's some kinks I gotta work out. I don't know what the kink, it's a different editing process. There's technical, the queen

Dani 1:01:53

right here.

Stephanie 1:01:55

Well, and there's also just technical like that. That's the holdup now.'cause I know I have at least one ready to go for video working news. To me, working on it, like working through it and getting through to these multi-billion dollar companies with. You're silly little, I'm not Mr. Beast, or you know, Theo Vaughn or Joe Rogan. So getting through to support is tough, but,

Dani 1:02:26

so if you are a regular listener, go subscribe to us on YouTube please.'cause you would get notified when we actually upload video.

Stephanie 1:02:33

Mm-hmm. Yes, please go and just subscribe, just to support and to get video. When we have it available when it comes. I think I have two ready for video. Oh, no

Dani 1:02:43

shit.

Stephanie 1:02:44

So

Dani 1:02:44

look, I'm even surprised.

Stephanie 1:02:45

Yes.

Dani 1:02:46

I'm just stuck over here in newspapers.

Stephanie 1:02:49

Um, yeah. So it's, it's a process for us. It's, we're doing it because you guys said that you wanted it and we're trying to be there for you. So thank you for everything. Ten four river ducky. Fuck. Yeah.