Breathwork Magic

When the World Went Dark, The Breath Lit the Way

Amanda Russo

When the world turned dark for Laura, one breath at a time became her way back to calm, clarity, and control.

What if the way you breathe could change how you live?

In this powerful episode of Breathwork Magic, host Amanda Russo is joined by Laura Bratton, a speaker, coach, and longtime Breathwork enthusiast whose journey began in the midst of personal crisis. 

As a teen facing rapid vision loss, Laura experienced intense anxiety and panic, living in a cycle of shallow breathing until one simple instruction changed everything: 

“Breathe from your diaphragm.”

Together, they explore how that single moment evolved into a deeply embodied Breathwork practice. Laura shares the tools that helped her shift from survival mode to presence: box breathing for immediate calm, body scans to either energize or unwind, and mindfulness to gently observe and shift thoughts. The conversation also explores how Reiki and gentle yoga complete a healing triangle of breath, energy, and awareness.

If you’ve ever thought “I already know how to breathe,” this episode meets you exactly where you are... offering both the science and soul of why conscious breathing is one of the most accessible and powerful tools for navigating life’s challenges.

🔹 In this episode, listeners will learn:

• How Breathwork became Laura’s anchor through trauma, vision loss, and anxiety
 • The calming power of box breathing and how it resets the nervous system
 • How mindfulness creates awareness of breath patterns and emotional states
 • The difference between using Breathwork as a tool vs. living it as a lifestyle
 • Why body scans serve both morning intention and nighttime release
 • How Reiki and yoga deepen the mind-body connection
 • Why Breathwork doesn’t eliminate panic, but transforms the way it’s experienced

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SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to Breathwork Magic, the podcast that explores the life-changing power of your breath. Breathwork isn't just a practice, it's a gateway to healing, transformation, and shifting to a new mindset by letting go of the past and embracing the possibilities of the present moment. I'm Amanda Russo, your host, a certified Blackwood facilitator, level two wiki practitioner, and creative Amanda's mindset podcast. On my own journey, Blackbook has been a powerful tool for believing what no longer serves me. It shifted my perspective to step into my fullest and greatest potential. Each week, I'm joined by inspire and guests, Blackbook facilitators, healers, and wellness enthusiasts who share how this practice has helped them and their clients heal, grow, and embrace lasting change. So take a deep breath. In and out. Settle in.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you so much for joining me, Laura.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely. Thank you for the opportunity.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. So I'd love to know when you discovered the power of our breath.

SPEAKER_02:

So I have to be honest and admit it was absolute survival. So as a teenager, as I'm in high school, I lost a significant amount of my sight at the beginning of high school and then throughout high school. So at the end of by the time I graduated, I had no sight, totally completely blind. In that time of adjusting, I was extremely anxious and extremely depressed. So my breathing was shallow, short, with not even a full breath, just almost like I was panting all the time. And so that just physically made me worse, made the anxiety worse. And it wasn't until a therapist introduced me to mindfulness and just the gift of breath work. And she told me, I mean, it was a very simple practice of just breathing from my diaphragm rather than short, shallow breaths. And I didn't believe her that was going to make any difference, but that had an incredible impact on my anxiety.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. I bet, you know, like when we lose any one of the senses, it's often that other things are heightened, you know. But wow, that must have been so challenging, especially as a teenager. As a teenager, horrible. And the therapist, your therapist mentioned mindfulness and breath work to you. Yes. And I didn't believe her.

SPEAKER_02:

I thought she was a bad therapist. Because I was like, my first instant thought was how can breath make a difference? But I had no idea that the quality of our breath we had control over and actually made a difference in our will-being.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep, it's so true. I love how you mentioned the quality. Now you said she mentioned breathing into the diaphragm. What did she tell you about that?

SPEAKER_02:

So she literally taught me box breathing. So breathing from my diaphragm, breathing in for deep breaths, holding for a count of four, breathing out for four, and then repeating that cycle as many times as I felt necessary. And her point was breathing from the diaphragm gets as we take larger breaths, it gets more oxygen to our brain. It literally calms down our nervous system because I was constantly in the state of freeze and flight. I went back and forth, but I was never in that relaxed sense of where my nervous system could just let go and be at ease. And so that's why she started with the diaphragm of just rather than me literally like panting, bringing from my diaphragm to start creating that cycle and that well-being. And then from there the breath work expanded, but all started with the diaphragm.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. Now I'm curious, how soon into therapy did your therapist mention mindfulness and breath work to you?

SPEAKER_02:

Unfortunately, it was not soon enough. It was several years into therapy. Okay. That would have been a game changer if it was. But it was several years into it.

SPEAKER_01:

Did you continue going to therapy as well as doing the mindfulness and the breath work?

SPEAKER_02:

I transitioned to all mindfulness and breath work. Oh wow. I completely transitioned from the consultant, done that for several years. And then once I found the power of the breath work and mindfulness, I switched to mindfulness, breath work, and Ricky. And now what does mindfulness look like for you? So for me, it helped me tap into the breath. And what I mean by that is when I was in such a state of panic, my breath were just short, shallow breath. I didn't feel like I had any control over it. I thought just my breath is what it is. I don't have control. Mindfulness taught me, no, you have deep control over your breath. Mindfulness taught me to stop and observe my breath. Where am I holding my breath? Where am I sighing? Where am I not breathing? Where it just helped me to evaluate and become aware and realize that each state is not permanent. That's what gave me the power. That's what was the gift of the breath word. It gave mindfulness gave me the power to observe my breath and then to change it.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. I like how you mentioned that it taught you and reminded you that each state is not permanent. Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely forever. I thought I was powerless over controlling it. So that's what mindfulness told me was I can control this.

SPEAKER_01:

And no, when your therapist introduced you to mindfulness, what aspect of mindfulness did she introduce you to?

SPEAKER_02:

So she just very generally introduced me to breath work. She didn't even call it breath work. She just called, yeah, breathing for her, death near frame. And then she introduced me to mindfulness. And then from there, I took the initiative to take an eight-week class on mindfulness to learn all about it. So the first book I read was Mindful Way Through Depression.

SPEAKER_01:

I have never heard of that book.

SPEAKER_02:

I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll think of it as we go through, but it's not about depression at all. Don't let the title scare you. Because you think I only have to read it if I'm depressed. But is it really an amazing introduction to mindfulness? So she introduced me to that book. And then once I read that book, that's when I realized the power and started taking courses. So she was just literally the open door, the introduction. And then I took the initiative to learn more about mindfulness because I realized I quickly realized the benefit, the gift of it.

SPEAKER_01:

What would you say was your biggest takeaway from the book if you remember? I have control.

SPEAKER_02:

That thoughts are thoughts that I can control, that I can and what I mean by control is not like power over. What I mean by control is observe. I can observe my thoughts, I can observe my breath, and then I can choose what I do with what I observe. That gave me incredible control because then I could control the anxiety. I could reduce the anxiety through my very breath.

SPEAKER_01:

You could reduce the anxiety through your breath.

SPEAKER_02:

And how'd you do that through focusing on this literally the deep breathing constantly and making that a way of life, not just something I do for five minutes in the morning, but starting out, doing it for five minutes in the morning, and then five minutes throughout the day to build that lifestyle. That's just how I breathe. So then, and even now, so many years later, what I do is when I start to get anxious or start to have that shallow breath, I immediately recognize it. It's obvious that I've changed my breathing into that shallow pattern right away. So I can stop it, observe it, stop it, and then go back to that deep breathing.

SPEAKER_01:

Now you're able to point it out. Right. 100%.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I can point it out now because it's not my normal.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's incredibly healing and powerful. That's amazing. Now, was it on it? Was it just the box breathing technique that she taught you?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, that's all she taught me. And then once I learned more about mindfulness, I learned the body scan. And that was incredibly helpful just to slowly literally go through each part of your body, letting the tension go and just breathing into that area of your body. So it started with the box breathing, but then expanded through that as I learned more beyond my therapist.

SPEAKER_01:

And now you mentioned you took a course on mindfulness. How was that? Would you learn generally? Oh, I'm so curious about that. Yeah, yeah. Hear the term mindfulness, and it's so big. So a course could be anything, you know?

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

It started very simply with observing your thoughts. Notice what you're thinking. And I was like, oh, I can do that. I can actually observe. I thought about my thoughts are just fact and concrete. And they immediately went into the just simple everyday task. When you're brushing your teeth, don't make your to-do list. Don't think about checking an email. Don't send a text through Siri. Just focus on brushing your teeth. Think about actually brushing your teeth. And again, that sounds so minor. How can that matter? But when you start there and then expand it, again, it gives you such that awareness of your everyday, of your present moment.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. I love that. It seems so simple, but when short, it was really powerful.

SPEAKER_02:

It was very powerful. And the breath was a huge part of all of that. Because to be in the present moment, you have to be focused on your breath, on the moment. You can't be thinking ahead, anxious, or thinking about how you slept last night and wish you had 12 more hours to sleep. You know, like when you're in the present, you're just focused on the present and your breath.

SPEAKER_01:

I love that. No, it's true. When you're in the present, you're just focused on the present and your breath. Now you had mentioned that now, and I'm probably gonna rewrote this a tad unintentionally, but like you're able to notice it more in your embodying like breathing, not shallowly. That's really powerful that you're able to recognize now and then shift that. I I'm curious about how long, if you know, like it took you to notice that.

SPEAKER_02:

So I started the really focusing on the breath work and mindfulness about 20 years ago. So I really can't remember how long it took. Because again, it was a gradual process. It didn't go one day from five minutes meditation to I'm thinking about it, or this is how I'm breathing all day long. It was a very slow, gradual process, and it also wasn't linear. I can't give you an exact timeline on how long it took to get to that point. What I do vividly remember is that each part of the process was very healing. As I and what I mean by that is when I would do the breathing work for five minutes and then that was it. And then maybe the next week do it for five minutes four times a day. Each part of growing in my breath work was deeply healing because it gave me more awareness, it gave me more presence.

SPEAKER_01:

I get that. Now, you said 20 years, it's been 20 years since you started this mindfulness in breath work journey. Yeah, that was the early 2000s when I was in grad school. That's a long time. That's how I can do it now.

SPEAKER_02:

So I don't want anyone to listen to this and think, oh, I'm gonna do it next month or I'm gonna do it next year. I've been doing this for a very long time, so that's why it's just part of my lifestyle. Don't feel bad if you're not there because it takes a long time. And again, there's not like one magical day where it becomes your lifestyle, it's just a constant rolling process. And at certain periods and points and stress levels, you do it more sometimes than others. And so, again, there's not a right or wrong, or at least for me, it wasn't. It was just a continual growth process.

SPEAKER_01:

Now I'm curious if it, and I'm sure it did a little bit, like your mindfulness in Brathwoke Journey 20 years ago to what it is now, what it is today.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, great question. So then it felt like a task. Even though I loved it, even though I felt benefits from it, it felt like something on my to-do list that at the end of the day I was saying, Oh, did I do that enough today? Did it what was I intentional about that? Does that make sense? It was like something I had to do. Now it just feels like it's a part of me, it just feels embodied, it just feels part of my day.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a big difference. It's not something that you just have to add to the list that you're doing. I get that completely. When I first started doing breath work, first got certified and was doing it regularly. I remember, I can't remember how soon after I was doing it, but I was traveling and it was a couple months after I had first gotten into it, and I wasn't able to do a full breath work session this and I was like so frustrated, and and I was like, Minda, this defeats the whole purpose of them. Come on now. So I get what you mean, like completely, but I felt like I was quote unquote failing because I didn't do it. Right. It's gotten to the point now where I feel that I embody it too. You know, I haven't been doing it 20 years, but I get what you mean by it's different, you know, than when you first started doing it where you almost felt like you had to. You had to, and you had to do it.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I can laugh about it now, but I would literally set a timer, be like, okay, selves, we gotta do breath work for 10 minutes, now 12 minutes, you know. And I would name myself sit there until the timer went off, you know, and it's just it's funny when you think about it now how rigid and strict I was. Like, that's the whole point of life on this.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you know when or how that started to shift for you? How you started being less strict with it?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, when I truly realize the healing power. So again, I'm coming from breath work from the perspective of I need it as a mental health, mental wellness tool and resource. I need it to help calm my anxiety, to help ground me in my body. So as I started to feel those benefits, that's when I realized, oh, all I need to do is just focus on the actual breath work. There's not a magical time, it's not 17 minutes and then my world's gonna change, right? Or nine minutes and then I'm grounded. It's just being consistent with the breath work that brings the relief, that brings the healing.

SPEAKER_01:

I agree completely. And I love how you mentioned you've realized the healing power of it, and it doesn't have to be one set, like certain way.

SPEAKER_02:

And at certain times in different stressors, I need more than others. Sometimes I can do one box breathing and that's fine. And other times I need to focus on deep breathing for 10 minutes to get it back under control, to get my breath back under control. So it just depends on how bad my anxiety is or what I'm experiencing at that point in life, depending on what I need. So that's how I learned to let go of the rigid timeline structure.

SPEAKER_01:

I get that completely. Because every day it's different, you know, like we're experiencing different thoughts, emotions, feelings, even like I mentioned traveling, like we're doing different things each day. We don't live the same day every single day. Right. You mentioned Reiki as well. Have you gotten involved in the yoga aspect of like mindfulness?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. So yes, that hasn't been as powerful for me as the Reiki. But again, it I say that, but it's kind of hard to separate them all because I've done them all just interchangeably together, you know, the breath root, the mindfulness, having a Reiki session, learning about Reiki, and immediately going into the goat, gut, and breath work. So that's hard to separate all the modalities because they all have incredible healing benefits.

SPEAKER_01:

So, was your first introduction to this concept of Reiki, of yoga, of mindfulness, of breathing techniques, like this type of stuff, was the first time you had even really heard of that when your therapist introduced it to you? Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

So let me clarify that to say when I practice it for myself. So I was definitely aware that other friends were doing it, and I just thought, oh, that's great for them. That works for them. I don't really need that. Again, it was all I didn't realize the power, the incredible significance. So, yes, the therapist introducing me to the breath work and just that breathing from the diaphragm, that's when I started to realize and just entertain, oh, maybe this could be a helpful tool for me.

SPEAKER_01:

That's amazing. Now, you mentioned you had friends here and there that like did mindfulness or did yoga, and you just thought like that wasn't for you. Had anybody like tried to get you to do vacy with them, to go to yoga with them, or anything like that?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yes, absolutely. And my honest thought was right now, my anxiety is too severe. That was my reaction. It wasn't that I doubted that it was helping them, or it wasn't like I didn't believe in it. I just thought my anxiety was so severe that the breathworth energy work wasn't going, it worked great for them, but it was not going to work great for me. That was my hesitation or the barrier why I didn't try it earlier. And then once I tried it, it was just an instant, this is deeply healing.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, have you done any other breath work other than the box breathing and the body scan?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know the names. I've done a lot with other mindfulness teachers that I've had throughout the year. When I've done different trainings and readings and courses, I've done a lot in breath work, but I don't remember the exact name because I wasn't paying attention. No worries. I was paying attention at the time. I wasn't paying attention as far as embodying it. No worries. I get what you what has helped me the most is the body breathing the body scan and releasing the tension in the body and then breathing, breathing in that space in our body. That is deeply healing.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, is there a certain time of day that you usually do the body scan?

SPEAKER_02:

So I find it most helpful for me to do a few short minutes in the morning just as I'm starting my day. But then when it's most helpful for me is at night when the day is over and I'm winding down. Like that transition between, okay, the day's over, I'm going to bed, but before I go to bed and try to go to sleep, do the scan then, because I've built up the tension from the day. And so just getting on my yoga mat and taking that, again, it's not a set of my time. Sometimes it could be 10 minutes, sometimes 15, sometimes 20, but just taking that time to do yoga and focus on the breath and the body scan, that just that it does several things. It lets the tension out of my body and also lets those racing thoughts throughout the day of either what I got done or what I didn't get done and what I'm gonna do it early in the morning. It just stops all those thoughts and brings me back to present.

SPEAKER_01:

I agree. You mentioned you sometimes do the body scan first thing in the morning.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. The reason I found that's helpful is because it centers me for the day and it gets me focused on my breath early in the morning before I get distracted and anxious and overwhelmed with just the events of the day. So even though it's not about tension, that body scan is more about focusing on the breath and getting my breath in rhythm for the whole entire day. Because again, as I was sharing about embodiment, what I found now that's so helpful for me is using breath work as a foundation, not as just, oh, I'm feeling anxious. So let me pull out the breath work. But having it be a foundation of my day, a foundation of my well-being. So it's always there, not just something I pull out in times of stress, in times of anxiety.

SPEAKER_01:

I think that's key to embody it and utilize it. Honestly, even if we're feeling perfectly great, you know, not just for that, like I'm anxious, I'm stressed, I'm overwhelmed, whatever type, always embodying it. I love how you mentioned the body scan for getting the breath and rhythm for the morning. I was honestly only asking because I'm a big fan of body scans myself. And it wasn't until I spoke to a different guest that told me she does a body scan almost every day on her lunch break. And I was like, I could never because it puts me to sleep. But then when I'm listening to you about the morning, I'm like, the gets the breath and rhythm. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

So I'm glad you said that because let me clarify what I was thinking in my head. Let me clarify what I said. The body scan in the morning is energizing because it gets my breath in rhythm. The body scan at night is relaxing and does help me fall asleep because it releases tension and that breath I've been holding in, it helps me release it. So, does that make sense? It's in the morning, I'm not doing it for relaxation, I'm doing it to get my breath in rhythm. That does make sense.

SPEAKER_01:

And you might even be saying different things to yourself when you are doing taking these breaths in versus what you're saying at night. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

It's more, yes. And again, thank you for bringing that up because that brings in the mindfulness. In the morning, it's more mantras of just reminding myself of that I'm enough, that I'm worthy, that I'm confident, that I believe in myself. Yeah, the day might be hard, it might be stressful, it might be absolutely great. Regardless, the same is true. And then at the end of the day, the body scan is releasing all those emotions that I've experienced throughout the day.

SPEAKER_01:

That makes sense. And I think it's really beneficial for both. Up until recently, I had never done a body scan if it wasn't nighttime or evening, because I was just always under the impression or even the mindset that this is gonna put me to sleep and then I'm not gonna be able to go about my day because I'm gonna be too tired from the body scan. I had that mindset for so long that it's just gonna put me in too much of a zen or something. I don't even know. I've now done it in the middle of the day, and depending on what you say to yourself, you know, like when I'm taking these deep breaths in and I'm bringing awareness to different parts of the body, I'm saying different things versus when I'm doing it at night.

SPEAKER_02:

I guess if I had to sum it up into just one word, the night body scan is released, the morning body scan is preparing. The morning is preparing me for the day, and the night is releasing all the experiences, emotions of the day.

SPEAKER_01:

Have you ever done a body scan in like middle of the day? Yes, I'm glad you said that.

SPEAKER_02:

So I absolutely have, and for me, it's always been when the morning has been really stressful, really overwhelming, just a lot of emotions, and I'm feeling that anxious build and that panic attack start. So again, even though it's not nighttime, I'm already doing the body scan to release those emotions, like a release and reset to reset me for the remainder of the day. So I don't just do body scan in the middle of the day. Oh, this sounds good, this is relaxing, but again, out of that survival necessity, I need this to get me back to a mental wellness place.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm curious, who would you recommend breath work for?

SPEAKER_02:

I would, because of my own experience, let me start by saying that I would deeply recommend it for people going through major adversity, major trauma, major change. And you can totally be like me and doubt me and say there's no way my breath can help me. You don't understand what I'm going through. Because I said this exact same words to my therapist. You don't get my pain. You're not going blind, lady. I am right. There's no way breath work can help. So even if you want to be stubborn and try to prove me wrong, just like me, I am just here to say, in my experience, I highly recommend it for people in adversity and also ongoing adversity. Yes, I'm adjusted, yes, I'm adapted, and yes, I'm still a person who has zero sight in a fully sighted world every single day. So that brings constant challenges, just stressors. So breath work does make a difference. It is incredibly healing to give us power in how we breathe, affects our whole body.

SPEAKER_01:

I I completely agree. And you know, I have a similar Story to my first time trying breath work. I didn't think it was gonna do anything. I had a good friend of mine that had told me about it for months and months because I had been going to yoga and she's like, You're gonna love this breath work. And I was thinking, I know how to breathe. And I was just like, I know. I'll try it someday. I'm like, I'll try it someday. And I literally, she was a good friend of mine, and that's mainly I'll try anything once if we're friends and you teach it or you do it. Sure. But I completely I was blowing her off completely. I was thinking, what is breathing? I'm gonna spend an hour like going to this breathing class. I was bored knowing how to do it. There's a lot of things I don't know, but I didn't have to learn this, you know. So I was thinking the same thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Good.

SPEAKER_01:

That makes people better. I'm not the I'm not the only one. There's like no breathing. I I was thinking that. I was literally thinking the same thing, and I'm like, people go to a class about breathing. Like, I know you you want to learn, you want to grow, you want to level up, and I'm like, but then they're limitless people. I get it completely. And I like how you mentioned you think it's great for people dealing with or going through ongoing adversity. It's helped you with that.

SPEAKER_02:

It has helped me more than I could put it into words. Because it's a tool and a resource that I always have and I always can access it. If I'm having a five-minute ball my eyes out moment in the bathroom, or if I'm in the middle of a ton of people and somewhere where I can't escape to the bathroom and have a five-minute cry. I can control my breath anywhere I am. I can just stop and just take that deep breath to ground me and to slow my breathing down. So that and again, it sounds so minimal and it sounds like how can you recommend that with what I'm going through? Because that's again exactly what I said to my therapist. Yet it's just one more tool in our toolbox, and when we experience constant adversity or long-lasting adversity, it is an incredibly healthy tool.

SPEAKER_01:

That's amazing, Laura. What would you say it's Breathwoke OVOL has helped you with the most? Stopping the panic attacks.

SPEAKER_02:

So I've done all the cognitive therapy, but there are just certain times still where my mind is racing or I'm cold in that cycle of just anxious thoughts, fearful thoughts, overwhelming thoughts, whatever they might be. Or they might not be anxiety, it might be like just the depression, sad thoughts. And the breath, as I mentioned earlier, it brings me back to the present. So it's helped me by forces me to snap back in to this moment right here and now. Even if this moment is painful, even if this moment is really hard, it forces me to be in the moment.

SPEAKER_01:

So now you haven't had any panic attacks since? Oh no, definitely not.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's a gift. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying that. No, I definitely have had panic attacks, but here's the major difference. I've been able to control them. The panic attacks haven't overtaken me. I've been able to control the panic attacks with using many modalities, one major one being the breath work. So I'm so, so thank you for saying that because it's not that I did breath work and so the panic attacks went away and there was no more anxiety in my life. It's when I have anxiety, when I have panic attacks, I can better control the panic attacks and they can be less severe and have them better under control through the gift of breathing. Does that make sense about the difference? So it's not that breath work. I don't want anyone to hear me say breath work prevents everything. What breath work does is it helps you navigate through our range of emotions.

SPEAKER_01:

I like that definition. Almost like a GPS is what I kind of pictured when you said navigate through our emotions. 100%. It that GPS to healing. The GPS to healing. Wow, but now you're able to manage them and control them, and they don't control you, essentially. 100%. That's a big difference.

SPEAKER_02:

It's empowering. Right? Because it circles back to what we mentioned in the very, very beginning. When you were asking about originally what how I got connected to breath work, it gives me control where I didn't think I had control. I thought I just breathed. I was born knowing it, right? So I just thought I knew how to do this. But having control over how I breathe is deeply healing.

SPEAKER_01:

I bet. That's beautiful, Laura. That's really beautiful. Now, I'm curious, you've been practicing mindfulness and breath work for a long time now. Have you started sharing this or telling people or your friends or anybody about mindfulness, about breath work? 100%. It's in my work every day.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So I'm a professional speaker, a coach, I work with people individually and in group settings. And yes, mindfulness and breath work is a huge part of what I do.

SPEAKER_01:

And I'm curious, do people bash you off like you did a little bit OG? Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

And you can tell some people are more direct, like me, like I was my therapist. Other people, you just kind of feel they're listening because they respect you and they're working with you, brother. They're thinking, just sitting for me. Or they're just thinking, I don't need this. But I can't tell you how many people have come back to me weeks later and said, Oh my gosh, I've finally tried what you said, and it actually worked. Like they're shocked it worked. So yes, I love that reaction because I get it from everyone. And I've even had other people say it worked for me, and I told a friend about it who was really anxious or struggling, and it worked for her. Can you believe it? Yes, I believe it. So, yes, it's a large part of what I do.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh my gosh, I love that. It's come fofo yeah a little bit. I love that.

SPEAKER_02:

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01:

Thank you so much, Laura. I really appreciate you speaking with me. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you for the opportunity and the work that you're doing just to get out, get it the word out there, because again, so many of us doubt it, right? Oh, we just know how to breathe. What have you been doing with this forever?

SPEAKER_01:

I was the biggest skeptic myself. So just trying to bring more awareness to the power and the magic of it, you know. So, yeah. I'd love to speak with you on my other podcast, Manders Mindset, if you're interested in delve down your journey a little more besides just the breath. Yeah, absolutely. Awesome. I will talk to you about that off air. Thank you so much, Laura. I really enjoyed this.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, and thank you for connecting the mindfulness and the Reiki and the breath work because that is so so powerful that they're all perfectly intertwined.

SPEAKER_01:

You can't really separate one from the other. They are intertwined. They do different things, but they are very it's like a triangle almost. Thank you so much, Laura. Absolutely, and thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Breathwork Magic.

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you for tuning in to Breathwork Magic. I hope today's episode inspired you to connect more deeply with your breath. It includes the transformation it can break. Remember, as long as you have your breath, you have options. You're not stuck. You can make a change. You can make a chance. Exhale. It's a new beginning. In every exhale, it's a chance to let go of what no longer goes. If you're craving a reset, I'd love to invite you to mindful mindset Mondays. Now help on the last Monday of every month. It's a virtual pay what you can black book session designed to help you recharge and realize. You'll find all the info in the show notes. And if you're ready to go even deeper, you can always schedule a one-on-one Blackboard session. What's coming up? And a more personal life. Thank you so much for. If you love this episode, do it with a file. Your support helps more people. Discover the magic of breakfast and shift of input. Until next time, keep breathing. Keep shipping. And keep embracing the magic with inside of you. I'm proud of you. I'm reading for you. And you've got it.

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