Mixed Bag with Owen Heary and David Meier

Deniese chatted to former LOI player and manager Owen Heary and former referee David Meier about the World Cup, LOI and GAA amongst other things. She also had a confession to make.

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SPEAKER_00 0:39

So I watched the open ceremony, I stayed up Saturday night to watch Splits, and obviously because of peak open. That's about it. You know, my interest hasn't really risen yet. A friend of mine said to me that key flying is like there's too many teams at the moment. And then over the weekend, with GA being so good, I kind of found it hard to get into the World Cup. And then obviously Friday night as well, we've got a couple of very good League of Ireland games. First of all, David, you were just mad about the World Cup, obviously, because you were saying it with your grandchildren were interested in it. How have you found it so far?

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Well, I've I've been hoping growth and growth at the moment. And I do agree, I do agree over another eager thing. And really the World Cup doesn't matter to the knockout. Sometimes we decided to change the events. It can be games that are just non-advanced and we end up with just watching them for the takeaway. I watched Owen last night and easy game was against Sweden. I thought it was a real match, but like to the ceiling, they always giving us another lift with Barry to get the point, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Well that's it, and it's mad, isn't it, Owen? How all of us, when he puts on that Rovers jersey, playing our team, we're kind of going, No, you don't want them. But when he put on that jersey tonight, that Cape Farr jersey ceiling, we all wanted Pico to do well, and he's the first current League of Ireland player to ever play at a World Cup.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Yeah, yeah, no, it's great. We're a small league, and that's the one thing that we will do as fans and as uh representative of our own league is to support the life of Lopez when he goes and on the world stage. Like it's it's magnificent. I think the last player that played that was in the Northern League is Felix Healy, you know, back in eighty two when when he went over to the World Cup. So to have someone from representing not only Kate Fardy, but he's representing Ireland in the way as well, and you know, when he's playing the league, it's great to see him known over. And I think it's Kate Fardy they didn't I know they were fairly battered today, but he won't have nil all drawn, that's what you'll remember. For that, you know. But I do agree though, the I think there's too many teams in the World Cup. I think it's uh a lot of dead rubber games, like and and the interests won't peak until the knockout stages, as Dave says. Like it's you know, the even the the water breaks out of kills and at the World Cup and you know.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Do you think lads though they're trying to maybe do the four quarters like you have with American sports? So I've been to a couple of basketball games. Yeah, I think I'm a Brooklyn Nets fan, unfortunately, not a good weekend for the Nets with the Knicks winning. But I've been there and it's all Raz Mataz and everything, and I think that's what they're trying to get for the American people to get in. But it's not going to appeal to people who actually want to sit down and watch a good game of football, is it, Davis?

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Well, there's been a couple of a couple of incidents in in in out of out of a few games that we've seen so far where teams have had massive momentum and all of a sudden they're stopping for a hydration break. Now, okay, we I understand that it is very warm out there, it is very hot. Players have to look after. I don't agree with three minutes. It's ridiculous. It's a three minute stop for the window for advertising. I don't agree with it whatsoever. As long as it takes a drink of water, one minute stops, and even one minute for a bottle of water is quite a lot. It's really it's breaking up there. The managers are coming on and they're doing their analysis and they're getting it for that in the three minutes, and it's changing the whole thing around. I don't agree with it. I do agree with a certain point that you have to have a break. One minute max. The stadium to season, apparently, it was indoor, air conditioning, yet they still had two of sections of three three minutes thing. No need for it. Not a nice not at that stadium.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

Yeah, but oh, and we kind of say in the League of Ireland it's uh equivalent kind of to a goalkeeper going down and trying to stop a team's momentum. If you were out there playing, because you obviously have played the game at a high level, and you're out there playing the game, you're on the you know, the momentum is with you, as David said. And then all of a sudden you have this water break and you're like, uh, do we have to actually take this this break now? You know, we'd rather just play on the game.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

But that's the thing, Denise, you know, that they're talking about quickening the game up, and uh they would know like with the the referee is saying, Oh, you have five seconds to take it from you. Yeah, five seconds to play the hand and so on. And then all of a sudden they're quickening it up, but then you slow it down by saying, Well, we're gonna give you a three-minute break. It doesn't make sense, like you know, it really doesn't. Like David Wright, that they probably do need water. Well, you can have water stations around the pitch. You can have water bottles. You have a multi-ball system, you can easily put water bottles around, or you have ball boys standing at the side for a water bottle.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

We had them in the League of Ireland, remember that a couple of years ago.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

David's right and saying, You don't need three minutes, it's literally ten seconds for a drink of water. Thanks very much. You're back on the pitch. It just kills momentum. And like if I were playing now in that World Cup, you know, I'm playing, I'd be thinking, Oh, if you get through the fourth fifteen, twenty minutes, there's a break, and then think right the next you know, you're back into halftime. And you just keep you break it down into into four quarters the way the the Americans want it, like so it kills the structure of the game. We all like to see the game flowing, and when one team is dominating, that's not what they do with the football, the other team has to defend, you know, long periods to see how they cope with it. But you're not defending, you're defending for fifteen, twenty minutes in the total minute break, grand that catch me bread after that.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

But it used that one adds it is for odds.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

It's that's exactly what it's for, and that's what it's only for because it just generates money, and that's what I see for about this whole World Cup with the price of the tickets and so on. Like you look at the state of some of them empty. You know, looking to the day and it's a twelve dollar trip from New York down to New Jersey to one of the states, and they put it up to a hundred and something like thirty dollars. And that's crazy, like, you know, 'cause they're generating more money from people getting in the country, but yeah, they're putting the prices up, which turns people off council, and it's just become it's certainly become football for only for the rich to attend rather than what it's supposed to be for the normal people like the average average uh Joe or average A people like that just want to enjoy football.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Yeah, well that's exactly it. It's a wonder, David, they didn't have uh a match at the White House seeing that now this is the latest craze of having sorting events at the White House.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

Oh, absolutely. But it I was right there hundred percent. It's the working man's game is gone. It's it's all over the working man's game, it's all taken up with the wheel.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Now I could be a snowflake, David, and I could say working woman, but I'm not a snowflake. Well, no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I I I didn't mean it exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Look at you know me long enough.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah. But that's that's basically what's happened now. We've been priced out of the out of the game. And like even don't mind the woke up, all this this might chest united much against ladies and club crack tickets for price particularly ridiculous. That's what you're playing. And also, and also we're looking at games as as as if we should have been leaving it.

unknown 6:50

But who's which static team are coming over?

SPEAKER_02 6:52

And you're you know, the fans are going out and spending the money to buy the tickets. Normal day person there would be the price of a football company.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

But you even look at we mentioned with kids.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

If you if you have kids, if you have a family going to, it's costing a fortune. Oh stop like you said, you don't know which team coming out of United Celtically any of them. And yet you're thinking is it worth going out and paying forty quid for a ticket when they might have you know the first team out. Like I even thought there tonight, you know, with a mile on the bench and two other benches. Imagine paying five hundred and six hundred quid for a ticket to see these players and they're sitting on the bench.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Yeah. One leads and one united, um, but I understand the day, but like you obviously would be a shells fan as well as you know, keeping an eye out on the Celtic. And I was the same saying to you, like, and I think the fact that in Tolca will they have many of the first team because a lot of the lads well actually we don't even know what what kind of a team Celtic are going to have by the time um the play shelved. Oh, and I stayed up Saturday night. I came home the long day, I was a Port Leash for leash and down. I said, you know what, I might actually I tried to look for the start of the game, couldn't get it, and that's another story. And uh I said, look, and I'll stay up and I'll watch the Scotland game and I know they were buzzing because the won is and top of the group, but I don't know, and then John McGinn, player of the match, I just think did uh buy into this whole thing with John McGill at the moment, 'cause I thought apart from the goal, he wasn't that great.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Yeah, I would think the fact that he's just they've won the f five games or he's won his last five games, one of them is Europa Cup and so on, you know, momentum is wrong, but for Scotland that's a big win because one win could get you through to the knocking just and that's that's what I think. There's no there's no real bulls about the games as in the tension. Do you remember when you say you'd have Holland against Germany and Germany has to win to get through or you know, there's no there's no nothing on the games. They'll just go and play, get a few points. It's like the Champions League. PSG lost so many games over the last two years in the Champions League and still went on and won the the competition twice. You know, they lost three games last year, I think they lost the same amount this year. But yet they're still the they're still uh Champions League.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

But even calling it Champions League, David, you know, I'm kind of of a vintage, you'd be a little bit older than me, but I myself and own and and yourself, David, for us, you know, it was always the Champions League was for the champions, and now it's kind of extended like top five in England now, which is madness now. You know, no disrespect, but Liverpool were that brutal this year, and to see them building the Champions League next season.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

It all comes down to money again. The top clubs want the top clubs want the big slice of the cake. So you're gonna have the you know five teams in the league or three teams in the smaller European league qualified to make a Champions League because at the end of the day, your eyes are didn't want the Super League that was being proposed that they tried to pull away with a few years ago. So this is to try and keep everyone sweet. And again, if the top clubs make it the money, like you look at look at leads. Leeds haven't got a snowball chance to get into the Champions League. In in over the next two, three seasons if they even stay in the Premier League. There's there's certain clubs that are just one of the whole show and and every else everybody else is just making up the numbers.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

And then you look at the the conference league and the Europa League are won by the Premier Teams this year because it just they just get so many teams into the into the Europa Cup competitions now that they're just gonna keep dominating it. The four top five leagues in this in the world are gonna keep dominating these competitions. Like and it I know it's great for like rovers in it and they get through a few rounds and it looks good, but as as David says, the the rich clubs just keep getting rich and then there's nothing left for anyone else.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

Like you noticed that it it was the only thing this year was that it wasn't um Bayern Munich or Real in the final against PSG or because it was always going to be some of the top teams. Arsenal, I know we're not Arsenal fans, um obviously oh and you're united. I know David, you know we all have a cross to bear a knife. David your leads, I'd be like over Liverpool. Arsenal to me, and so many people have said it to me, that our neutrals there was no real buzz about them. Normally if a team has them won a league. Even Liverpool, when they won it, you know, in Red Commons during the COVID years, after so long, people were going, Oh my god, it was great to see Liverpool win the league. And I think I'd even United fans saying it. But this year, were Arsenal the team that no one kind of cared that they won the league?

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Ar Arsenal were top of the league. They at most points they they won the league, they deserved to win the league. But did they win it with with a with a fan buzz from elder from teams that would have been supporters or supporting? No, they didn't. I don't know, I don't know why that didn't stay with people this year, but they just they just won it. Um I actually thought they won it on default at the end to be honest, which is the the Barbara Manchester City match. I think if it had gone down to the last game, I think they would have followed it. I and I think everyone was saying that, and the the whole thing from Christmas upward was everything. It's a butter job, it's a butter job, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Yeah, that that's exactly it, Owen, because um I have a friend uh who is an Arsenal fan and he was actually over at the the Champions League final and everything, but that was the one thing for him he was like, don't mention things, don't mention, because he thought that they were like Arsenal fans thought they were going to do it again and butler. And I do think, as you said, yes, the best team wins the league and that. But I don't know, maybe as we said, lads, with all these games and all these competitions, has it kind of diluted these? Because the last few leagues um that I've been won, and I'd say even as a Liverpool fan, the standard hasn't been great.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

No, I but you're right saying that the best thing will win the league, and fairly fair Arsenal they got the lit got the job done. So you have to give them credit for that. Ten years down the line, we look back at the Arsenal wonder no one cares how they play it, uh you know, what way they play it. They won the league, they're Premier League men in the fucking. But I think you're right in saying I think the standard of the league has gone backwards, you know, the like you look at the lesser teams, the Brentfords, you know, the all the lesser teams are getting stronger. And I think United Liverpool they're going to spend a massive amount of money on average players compared to what they would have thought years ago like. You know what I mean? Like you you would have seen United Liverpool, Chelsea on the top teams, dominating games, dominating football, might have an odd blue thing. But now you're going out and you see these teams against the left and teams weekend, which you know you're like, you don't feel sure they're gonna win. Because play for play, you're like eleven is just as good as what United's eleven is. You know, there's nothing on the stand out. Like years ago you'd have had the top strikers at the top clubs.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:05

Now it's not like that. You know what I mean? It's it's you look at how you're saying the top strikers are probably over in the life of of uh get having a relevant raid or Barcelona or something. But but even look at the players at Barcelona are signing. You know, would you say Andy Gordon was an eighty million pound player going to Barcelona a couple of years ago? Like I said, the fellow said you had Ravaldo, uh Ronaldinho, you know and now you have Andok basically going to Barcelona.

SPEAKER_00 13:31

But Trent going to like a couple of years ago, Trent going to Real Madrid, and even I thought this season he was extremely poor, Kanate, and everyone getting excited over it, and I'm thinking, you know, yeah, you're right there. David, we like to, as an Irish nation, slag ourselves and everything, and the one thing that lets our league down would obviously be Stadia. We won't mention some of the officiating, but Friday night I was doing Call Wind and Doc, and I said to my dad, if it stays nil all, this is probably one of the best nil all games I've watched in a while, it ended up done dock, won it. Dad was saying he thoroughly enjoyed the Rovers game. I tell you more and more, and as the weeks go on, and I'll mention to you on as well, David. Our league, some of the games have been absolutely brilliant. You were there Friday night, a happy Shelburne fan. And I think that was a result that the league needed as well.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yeah, I I I I really enjoyed Friday night, but I will I I did think Shelburne stole the game. To a certain degree, I thought Robert's went far, far better. I think Robert on Friday night have gone one past too many, and and I think that's where people summed up the whole game in in a nutshell. Totally agree with you on the infrastructure. We've got so many people wanting to go to these matches now. I mean, seeing for uh sold out signs going up, but it's not because it's 10,000 secret stadiums holding up. It's be it's because we haven't got the stadium big enough. And the the games will be will be people will go to see them. The standard I've always said that once we've got the crowds playing, yeah when the game's around and the crowd behind it, it'll it could be as good as any league. And the wonderful League of Berlin is well, is I I've I've always when I go out to watch these matches, I it's an honest league I when a ball hits the back of the net, if the Lions would have hit a toe. We're not waiting on the celebrations to be all real. Like you, how many times last last season did we look at Premier League in England? Goal hits the back of the net, everyone wants to always want to wait on bear to say, yeah, what's the case?

SPEAKER_00 15:20

The Celtic Hearts game made as goal. We were kind of going, is it a goal? It's kind of knocked, hasn't it? Honest, yes, some referees and officials make mistakes, but at least it's honest and we don't have VAR.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

But that that's the beauty of of the League of Ireland. Like you say, we don't have VAR. So after you know, if you're sitting there with Jamai having a drink, you might turn it on and say, Oh, that was awesome. Jamie, no, that wasn't offside. I thought it was also. And that's the debate about football. That's what football is about. It's about we all have opinions, we have a debate about it. Whereas you're looking now, and you know, you look at the Premier League and you say, That's a goal. No, VAR shows you it's not a goal. So there's no debate in it.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Yeah, it's like it wasn't a goal.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

Yeah, it was also celebrated. I'd agree with all at that point. The thing about the football is always about controversy, right? You'd be in the in the habit of thinking after the match of a little bit, it'd be controversial. And I thought when when VAR came in, I did say to people, well, it's gonna take the controversy out of the game and it's gonna ruin the game for saying other people. But then what's happened is VAR has become the controversial something.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

Because because we're looking at uh I oh okay, I was a player I'm a referee. But let's say, for example, the two of the referees. Both of us will have a different view of what's what is a free kick. There's no argument.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Oh, and obviously the referee is wrong. Won't we say that the two of us? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

But you know what you can say, oh you're allowed with the referee if they were obviously on the city.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Oh, you lickers. You said that to me, David, actually, talking about it. We will come back to referees in a minute. Would you say that to me off air? And it was off the record, Owen, he actually did praise you as being a great player on the field.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

Yeah, obviously, it's not a referee. Yeah, shut up. It's real. Because you would communicate. It's all down to communication.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Yeah. You have to communicate it. So being a being a referee and being a good referee is about good man. You can always use a player, you can use a player who you know you can talk to to shoot another player up. There are players like right across the board, League of World right across the board, they just do about the whole lot. There are players who can give you difficult situations to do. But by man managing them and using what you've got on the field as part of your tools and your kids, you can get the lads to help you out, they will help you.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

We won't mention always on uh Friday night. Maybe Tiern and Lynch has finally woken up and realised what James Clark can do because many times have myself and yourself spoken about the positioning of James Clark and what he's doing. He actually inverted comments, didn't play with any strikers, and I see that Josh Thomas is gone and and Depot is gone as well, and young Henry Riley, which I was impressed with a few times. Is this a wake-up call for for both fans? And then obviously, is it something that you know the kick in the backside that Derry need it or what?

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Yeah, well Derry definitely needed, but the thing about Derry is they're so far behind that as he if you go out and lose this weekend, they're back to square one. That's why you see the mid-season break for teams. We're talking about that break, you know, yeah, momentum doing games. That's exactly what happened here with Bows. Like, they're on a high, they're doing well, and then all of a sudden you go on the midseason break, come back, don't hit the ground, run and you get tumped. When you get tumped like that, people question them, what did you do on the break? Did you look after yourself? Did you do this? Did you do that? Yes. You know, the goalkeeper away on the honeymoon, long time, and for me, I'd be like, No, you should be here, you should be playing. You're not gonna he's not getting made till I think at the end of the month. So to me it doesn't make sense that you're you're taking an extra week, you know, you should be back in there, you should be doing your job. That's just my opinion, that's the way you like it. But I think with Bowes now, like they're going into Europe, you get that tank and nice last week. You played Dumdal this week. If Dundaff beat him, you know, ahead of them with a game and a half. You know, Rennie, every time Bowles lose, Rennie's under pressure from fans. Like he they don't he he's done great down there, I mean they're up like a toward the table. But that's not good enough for Bowes because you know when he's not a Bowles man, if you know what I mean. So if he's not if they lose again, they're gonna like you know, if he wins two, three in a game games in a row, yeah, great, but then he loses the next two again to be Adam again. So, you know, we he really needs to make sure that they get a result this week in day and out and then push himself away from them dog because this is gonna be a this is a real massive play for him, I think, this week. And then just find out who they get in Europe as well tomorrow. So, you know, I think they're they're actually hoping that you get Linfield or something like that. So I don't think it's not that much, you know, pain to travel, and then I think Linfield will be only coming into that into that season, so it'll be a great time to get.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

Owen is right though, when you think about David with the midseason break, because you look at Waterford, Waterford now a fantastic result. And even Pat, Pat's have been in a bit of on a bit of a slide and they've done fantastic. And f fair play to Daddy Rogers as well, came in because Joey Ang's over the World Cup Rogers came in and a clean sheet as well. Disappointing that for uh Ryan wasn't um Pat's are my second team now that um Ryan wasn't on the score sheet, but he's delighted that other lads are are popping up with goals. But we mentioned that Waterford. The Doc though, for me, Daryl Horgan has rolled back the years, and Owen Kenny is a cracking young player.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

The the dark have been a surprise package of the season. Definitely. Bohemians, in my opinion, are always liable to throw in a stupid result like that. They're just they're not consistent enough right now. They're always they'd be out of the top four or five teams at the moment, they would be the ones that we that would be liable to throw a stupid result in a lot. Oh, yeah, it's worth it a nice. Dawson the boy has been magnificent, but I I watched him against Romans, right? He stood out so much that night to be able to say mother of divine godrup, this bell is really putting the business in. Gets into the Ireland squad was over, does this half a match or whatever he does? He loses the Rovers match, and then all of a sudden the Zet then is Upper Grabs as the player of the month. And if Darrell Horgan has got player of the month, hence me saying that the surprise team of the season so far hasn't done Doc.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Yeah, I agree. They really are going to be. They have a lot of experience in that team. Completely. A lot of experience, and I think that makes a difference. Shells didn't win a game at home, and all of a sudden they're still in there.

SPEAKER_00 21:12

Pats Pat's had a great run and then a blip, and now they're back to second. And that's why I said I texted you Friday night, and I said it today, but that we needed that result. No disrespect to Stephen Bradley and to Shammark Rovers, but we actually needed that Shell's result the other night.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

The problem is with that, is right, is that rovers are capable of going out and winning three games in a row.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Pat's pose very shells are not. You don't feel that they're capable of going out and winning five in a row either.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

You know, and that's that's the determinant thing. I mean, like Pats are back in there, rovers will win this week, let's say, and then Pats are lose, and all of a sudden we're like, oh, rollers have it again. There's no consistency with the other teams. And like rovers are doing well because of the fact that like give a second need to strike or whatever, but I think the fact that they won five or six leagues and to keep that momentum going and to keep people. It's brilliant like You know what and Steve and Stephen Bradley comes out and says they finished strong. They haven't finished strong in the last couple of years, but he keeps putting that in in the other managers' head that Rovers always finished strong and all of a sudden there's doubt in the other managers thinking, Oh, well Rovers they do finish that. But they staggered over the line last year, you know, and then the year before they lost it on the up and dirty. The year before that, you know, again it's it's just they don't have that mandate, but be seen to just get over the line on the line.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

That's what good teams are. And Dave, but when you think of it now, obviously we're talking about Sherman McRovers, and I do think it's going to take a very good team on a very good run to catch Rovers. We're going to have a real battle for European spots, and then down at the bottom now, because Graham Cotland's now down with Waterford, and that result the other night was just massive.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

What they need to do with that result the other night is they need to put put it to bed, they need to win the next one and not lose the next one, and then get some kind of a momentum goal. Because, like I just said, if if you don't follow it up with another win, you go back to square one again. Look at it, go to the top of the league. Pats are, I think, it's two, five points behind. Okay, we give them the match in handy wins, they go to three three two points behind. We then got League on board. Can Pats win that match at hand? That's the thing. It's a it's a game that we won.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Myself and Noan were talking, and no other suspect is Stephen Kenny, and I've known Stephen a long, long time. But when it comes to Dublin Derbies, now I know the beaten shells and the beaten balls, but in the games against Rovers, his plan is completely different. He plays to try and match them instead of playing his own game, and he's worried about different things, and that's probably why Rovers were able to get that edge over it. And I think if Pats are to win a league this year, they have to beat Rovers at some stage.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

There's there's a famous song sang down at Talk of Park, but the things with the Crambleys, it's in your head. And that's what the problem is between Rovers and Pats. It's in his head. He doesn't need to change the grip. Always worry about him and let him do his job without him changing his side to see the way Rovers are playing. I wonder how you agree with this because he would have been a doing at his level coaching and stuff like that. Put out your fourth eleven. Let them play you want them to play, and it's just like imagine when it would be a winner at the end of the night. But don't change the whole tactics to one match because it you know good.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

We're all going out a tunnel. And if you already think that you're defeated, then it's no good. Like you know, and especially if you change tactics of your question saying, Oh, why do you know so negative playing against this team? You know, we stay the way we went, we could beat it, and it becomes a negativity then for the own place thinking, oh, we're changing what you must think they're better than us. You know what I mean? So that sometimes puts into your into your mind where as you say, you know what, we've been playing very well, don't take the game to them and you know, hopefully come out with the the right results because you're right, in order for Pants to win the league, we think you'd need to beat rollers that one time that'll say, Right, we're capable of matching this, we're capable of being winning the league, yeah. And then we need to push on, yeah. Um that's what it comes down to.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Lads, the first division, we have to give it a mention, obviously, as a Lanper Town fan. You look at Cork and the players that they kept from last season and everything, but I kind of disappoint in some ways because I expected Cork and they will win the league, but I expected them to be way better. And fair play to other teams, like they've been getting results against them. But I think a bit like the Premier Division about the race for European spots, I think the race for playoff spots is going to be something else. We had a great win the other night, Longford Town. Unfortunately, I was in Port Lee, so I wasn't at the game. But uh, a great win, and we're on a bit of a roll, but we have to get that little bit of consistency at the moment. It would be great to see the likes of of Longford Town, obviously. I'm saying that as a Longford Town fan, but us in the mix again for a playoff spot.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

It's a massive jump, though. I will agree with probably on this as well. You're coming out of the fourth division, they're probably the only team who can come out of the fourth division and their best, but they are they can't they can't do this when they come out of division corporate. But the rest the rest of them, you know, it's so difficult. It's it is a major step up, but not already required when you step up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

We done that years ago, Owen. You remember it, you know. We actually barely made the playoffs. We got in on the last game of the season because results went our way. We won the playoffs, beat Shells in Talker Park the COVID season, and then we went up to two great results at the start of the season, and then just completely imploded, and we got relegated. And that's the problem. And I remember even Jaron Ash saying it last year about Cork City when they got relegated, that he didn't want them being a yo-yo club. So if you look at Cork City being yo-yo clubs, then whoever comes up. But the thing about it is Cork are probably fixed to be able to stay there. But I still think it's very hard for a first division team to defeat that premier division team in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Yeah, look, it comes down to money as well. You know, you need you need the money to get the players in, but you have to do name what those are and get the premier players in and have the know-how to win games.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

Stephen Kelly won that.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

If you if you get them up and you say, you know what, I'll get in a few experienced players here, good experienced players now and have no proper attitude, you know, right mentality. You get those players into your club, you'll have that's half a chance to sign up.

SPEAKER_00 26:47

You'd make a great manager, Owen, wouldn't he, David? He's got that great he's got that great too.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

You know, you know, when you're you're talking about Cork like you think that he would have wronged the way with the the league. You've never seen that when other teams are playing Cork, that's their biggest game for them.

SPEAKER_03 27:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Because Corkers have so that's why it becomes harder for Cork to break him down because like Cork has so many points ahead.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

And then Owen, the fact that Gary McSweeney and you have a chance to shut the little shit up, I think that's another thing like clubs like to do that. I don't know if you know him, David, but Gary goes to Cork City matches and uh Gary is the mouthpiece. I absolutely adore him, he's one of my best friends. And it was it was so weird though, Friday night watching the game, and I said to dad, like you know, you've already seen his ugly mug, and of course I don't even tell you what my dad says about him. So I'm trying to get him and Phil Cascara to do a podcast with me, and myself and Phil, no problem, Phil said we catch up. But McSweeney always has something on, so that's why I'm gonna slate him. So I'll be slating him forever and ever for this. Lads, as much drama as there is Gaelic over the weekend. And the dub's back, lads, first and foremost. We talk about the draw in a minute. Was I delighted to see Ross Common go maybe because um I've little nephews who are mon and but loud, that was just Ethan Raffery won't want to see it again, but that was some result for Loud, David.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Yeah, 100%, 100%. Uh the dubs back, uh, it's a long it's a long call because when you talk about the dubs being back, like we're talking about a team that won so many in a row, they they just they must they won they won yesterday. I don't know, I wouldn't be 100%.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

You know, yeah, it it's it's gonna be done he goes as well. And your grandson actually, he won a medal with the dubs with the dubs the other day, um Owen. It was David's grandson.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

It was the games, it was the it was called um the Goodwill games, and they played they played Answer.

unknown 28:38

There was the Hornet side played the Hornet side and then and uh the football side played it, the football side, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

And and the the double the Dublin footballers now gave gave the answer for hoy. They got a medal, it was great, and what really impressed me what was I looked at they were only under eleven. Oh you wouldn't believe the talent these kids had. I I was I had not seen him play for quite a while, and I went down Friday, and I just I was astounded. I was always the grandson, there was players on the pitch who are who on on the Dublin side who looked out fantastic players. Yeah, they've got cool complaining bell coming through as well.

SPEAKER_00 29:10

I know it's great to see Yeah, no, I was just talking to a friend of mine and he was saying, you know, Connor Callant kind of back in there now. Obviously, everyone's thinking now of Jared Brennan and uh Jim McGuinness on the side. I I know you could have liked the guy as well, um Owen. Arma and Kerry, like to think that this weekend Armah or Kerry, Dublin or Dudie Gall of of the big teams, some of them are gone.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Isn't that the the the beauty of knockout competition in that? Like you know that you're you're looking and saying it's not the same team. Like Dublin dominated for so long, you know, for so long, like and you're saying, Oh, they're gonna do it again. But when you drop off that perch, you know, you get questioned Dublin, obviously get questions from you know the the tool of players that you have that you should be doing better. But when you get dropped off that perch and someone else comes along and they get the you know, the teams get stronger. It makes for a better competition. You you know, you don't want to see the same team winning all the time, like and it's the same with rovers when shells won the league, it was like it was great if shells won the league because it shows that it can be done, you know, and that that fair fact that those out of the you know shells won it and they said it didn't obviously didn't retain it last year, but they know that they have it in them, you know, just a couple of players and they could be up their channels again, and that's what's great to see. And that's the same with the gay league. You don't want to be seeing the same team dominate you know, year in and year out. So when you have other teams come along and uh show them what they're watching, it makes an interesting championship.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

That's exactly it, and that's listen, lads, that's exactly what we love about sport and everything is being able to do that. Lads, any interest in Low Violence seeing that um we've an Irish man in it.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Absolutely no chance.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

I was waiting for Rowan here today because I know um my cousin Richard told me about programmes that Ryan watched, and I was like, Oh my gosh, Ryan. And then I think Richard said he was watching Married at First Sight or whatever, Australia, and I was like, Oh, here that Richard, his dad was watching, and I said, Look it, I don't want to know you again. So, like, I'm just thinking now. I had no interest in it, and my dad came in and he says, How's that Irish boy doing? And I said, What's he on about? And your man, he said, you know, typical countryman, your man from Galway. So I said, Oh, your man in Love Island, and he said, Yeah, so put it on, and yeah, myself and mum are actually kind of watching it now. I know I'd never watched it before. I did when Maury Higgins was in it a bit, because obviously the Longford thing, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

But look at lads, if not I'm not having that that's I don't have to bring that up on a sport, but I'll I'll give you I'll I'll give you I'll give you one. My peace of my my peace of mind to go to when I'm not watching football or any other sport is Emmerdale Farm. That's as far as it goes at me. We can name it that. That's real life, isn't it? Everdale It is real life, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Oh well I'll come here, look at this there's a there's an Irish man in it, and David, I'm kind of wondering now, will he come back or will he regret that we could end up winning Love Island? But the way Galway are, Galway are slowly moving up there, the players back, will he regret now going into Love Island and he could have had an all-Ireland medal in his pocket?

SPEAKER_02 32:00

I think do you know what as well, though? Like the it's it's sports people of today tends to be the profile. It tends to be the you know, they want to win they want to win stuff, but it's also about their profile. It's not doing itself any any harm being in the show. It's not doing himself any harm. He likes to find you talking about it on a football show, which is quite good, to be honest with you. He's broken into the door there.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Well, we're calling mixed bags, though. You know, it it it's I know, I know, I know, yes. It's a mixed bag, but I am a mix I am a mixed bag. So, right, David Mare likes Emmerdale, so that's a big exclusive. I remember this first the first time we spoke to you on if you admitted about rugby, which I just was absolutely. I was now I have to get you into rugby league.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Yeah, you're saying that. Or I used to love the greatest catch, you know they're on the fishing programme. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Oh no, I love I love all I love murders. I don't watch so. I'm uh I'll watch First City. I'll watch First City. I'm and I'm a I'm a paddy. What?

SPEAKER_03 32:58

Is that is the murder in Fair City?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Um like the butchered something.

SPEAKER_01 33:05

Now but I love footballers there, by the way, in fair cities. We played a couple of years ago with Shells, well a long time ago with Shells, and there were uh a few decent players.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

You were you were part of that Shells team that was on Dream Team.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Played them twice, we didn't.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

Manchester United, that's correct.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

Manchester United. See, look at David, we mentioned Love Island, and then this boy was on on a gammy show as well.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

So, like, you know, we only won actually played a match for the European games, a stop start game, they beat us in Europe. And the fourth game was for Charity and Fletcher the fellow that could play that was the top player on them, couldn't even kick a ball. That's me that they didn't they had to give him football lessons.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Wait.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

So so is it yeah, he was a good actor. I I know I did like you on Linda Rock because I always felt and I always like Karen Brady, so that's kind of all give you a good story game one of the days about so they were slagging hold like for uh that's right, county ten on the shelf, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Oh oh I love the way I love the way he's all the mysterious now, David, you know. He's and all these he dropping the best real Yeah, dropping about, you know, oh I've got stories about now we're hearing about it, yeah. Go back to Love Island, the poor girl wanting to be a wag, like hello, it's the GA. Like imagine him bringing her down to Tune Stadium or to Glenn and Brothers Pierce Park or to Ockham.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

If he wins that, like it opens a lot of doors for him. He won't be thinking about GAA. You know, he'd be like you make you generate a lot of money over it, you know, he'd be on a lot of shows and they can open doors, other doors for him.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

And I think that's great.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

That's his whole purpose. It's not about oh, I'll go on this and then I'll come back to the GA. I think his whole purpose is you're gonna move on from it. Like the GA, it'll just be a backbone of anybody if things don't work out, he'll go back.

SPEAKER_00 34:40

I know, like in all three, so you can see it, and and he does, and the fact that look us Love Island, it's a load of you know, and you're never gonna find love, and it'll be all brilliant and everything, and then all of a sudden goodbye. But look at Maura Higgins. Like Maura Higgins. Oh, she's been absolutely my gosh. Like, forget about centre parks making Bally Mahan famous. It was Maura Higgins David that made Ballyman famous. So we're gonna go back to the World Cup lands. See, that's it. I'm I'm a woman, I I chop and change what what I'm talking about. Uh who do you see winning it? Because we've no real standout performances as such. My friend, I have to say, won money on uh Van Dyke scoring last night for the first goal. I was keeping an eye on Japan, obviously, because of um dies in, and I'm kind of keeping an eye on on teams that have Celtic players or other players I know in it, and obviously Cape Bird. But who do you think, David?

SPEAKER_02 35:31

Well, I I I've gone for Brazil. I've gone for Brazil from the main reason being the continent that it's on. There's only ever been one other one European team has gone over there, and one of those Germany. And also with the World Cup as well. We've only had eight winners, I think it is, in all the years the World Cup has gone over. Eight countries have won it. So it's it's it's a little niche of clubs or teams that are going to win it. I went for Brazil, one reason why Brazil was from history point of view, good players on the pitch. And I said, With that manager, they're in one issue. I wasn't overly happy with them on on on Saturday night, but you build yourself in these competitions and you build and you you grow into the competition. And that's that's the most of the way you'll go. Um I would have I would have gone for Argentina in the sense of because again the continent is on, that that would that would have been my my overall favourites. The only reason I didn't go for Argentina was very rarely do we see a team winning back-to-back World Cups. That was the deciding factor for me. A great squad, but that was the deciding factor for me.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

And definitely football is not coming home, no.

SPEAKER_02 36:24

It's not coming home. I don't see it coming home. In actual fact, sorry to cut the cross on an actual fact, the way it is now with setup, it's three could three teams can get out of a group. And that group that England are in, we always used to have groups years ago we called the group of death. That group that England are in is a tough old group. They they you know, they're playing Croatia too. That's not going to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

No, no, no, no, no. Yourself, Mr. Herey.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Um I think France are gonna um we're looking at the players that he left at home that could easily make up another team and go win the World Cup. I just think the depth, you know, the chance there. And Bapley in the last World Cup was brilliant. I think he he performs in the World Cup. He's three goals off close. His record is saying with Messi. Messi done it in 24 games, he's done it in twelve. He's definitely gonna break that at some stage, I think, you know, that record. I just think at least, you know, these players that I just yeah, I just think that these are the the ones that have a better chance of a European team going and winning it for me, it'll be uh it'd be friends. And here's the snapfield in since 1982, every team that's won the World Cup has either got a player from AC Milan, into Milan, Boy and Munich, or Liverpool in that team.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Now that's something, David, that myself or you should say. Well, actually David Mirror, because David likes his staff. That's what I like about David. Oh and Harry. You are surprising me this evening.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

France France were the number one ranked team three weeks before the World Cup, and then they drew over the Ivory Coast and they dropped the tour and as a teen and ever four. I wouldn't say they like that, but there you go.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:55

I I just uh that was you know, the reason being, and I looked at overall as one team, everybody, you know, and and the rest of them have all been been won by uh teams from that confidence.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

So I think you're right there. I think it's it's gonna come down to the the strikers like in in these competitions. You know, you you look like they've all got defenders and so on, you know. MacKiss is uh uh at Brazil plays a PSG, but it comes down to the striker, and that's why I think Ancelotti brought Neymar, even though he's injured at the moment, he thinks he's a game changer. I think that's where England have been let down because Palmer is a game changer. Silf Hoden is a game changer, even though they haven't played well, they can change again. And I think France has that's what Brazil is.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

Lads, you mentioned Ancelotti, obviously their own and Brazil, and by seeing an article the other day that I sent it to my friend Sarah about someone was doing about about Ancelotti's record, and he managed some of the best teams, we were involved with some of the best teams in Europe, and then afterwards Anne Everton. And I just thought some of the top teams in Europe, Anne Everton. Actually, that's what I meant to talk to as well. See, look at I'm I'm a woman, I chop and change with everything. We mentioned about obviously the the premiership and Brentford. Lads, both of you, Duffer, we'll get your reaction first, David, and then I'll I'll come to you, Mr. Harry. But what do you think of Duffer going to Brentford? Surprised it's not uh not going to be uh the coach or something like that, he's assistant, but still.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

I it's a great move for him. Again, comes back down to profile, but unfortunately with Damien and he's starting to get a bit of a thing to stick in with him. When's he gonna throw ties out the problem of this job? Like he's done it down a few, he's done it, he's done up with Ireland, he's done up with Celtic, he's done with Shelburne. You know, so these these teams are being watched as well. Like, if if I'm picking up on it, you can be sure people who are who are giving the jobs out were gonna pick up on it as well.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

That's what a lot of people said, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

This this appointment might might make might affect affect Keith Andrews in the wrong way.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

True, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

But that's that's the thing. And the other side is this the second season syndrome, you know, with Keith Andrews, like teams will know how we play this, and it'll be a different season compared to last year. Will he do as well? I don't mean punches well above the weight last year. Will he do as well? I don't know, but it's good always continues in there with you know the Kevin McConnell and Steven Rice. You know, duffel going in, he'll bring the madness, exposure, maybe you know, full on, which we've seen when he was with Chanel, he's full on, and then you're hoping he could bring the the calmness then as the manager. So it is an interesting one. I would have thought he would have waited until he got a team, you know, be a first choice as the manager. Well he's he's thinking of going to them, might be again we open doors for him a step of stone depending on how to do. If he walks away from that, as David said, then people are really taking those and saying, Well, if we want to make four or five club rolls with shells, Celtic and so on.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

So it does But it is interesting when you mention about about the Keith Andrews thing and was it Keith that brought him in uh because Keith has done a fantastic job. Like he was probably one of the first managers down in the bookies to be sacked and looked at the season he's done.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Like, look at Hasley, I think he's had to bring him in. I don't think anyone else brought him in bar Keith. Because there's no way to haven't there's no way he's out of having the season he's had in Europe, and then for someone else to say, you know, we'll bring him in Duffer because that'll undermine Keith and all of a sudden he thinks his job is under pressure. So to me it would have been 100% Keith met him and then they say, right, this is what I need you to do. And I think Brefford hasn't hasn't had any assistant manager in all season. Kevin O'Connor's been stepping into that role for the last while. So you know he's done extremely well to do as well as he did, considering that he didn't even have an assistant manager. But um yeah, hopefully they do well. I wish them all the best because it's great seeing that the Asian lads are are flying to flag high over there.

SPEAKER_00 41:26

That's it, because we we all like it. And the thing about it is if please God that he doesn't have the second season syndrome and he does well, because if he does well in the next few years, if there is a a job going here sorry, Hamer, but you know Haymar will probably move on, then he could step in there. Obviously, lads as well.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

And as Robbie Keane, I know people waiting, like well Robbie's done well at Club he's gone to, and I know you're probably seeing because you'd say that's why you didn't want them at Celtic, but I'm sure he'd be throwing his hat on the ring as well.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

There's a mix there's a mix with Robbie Keane. I found that I don't think he would have had the and even Wilfrid Nancy, should I say Nancy, for me I wasn't overly excited about the facts uh when I seen the CV about Celtic and not expect the likes of Ancelotti or Rinier or, you know, people like that or you know Jose Reno to come to to Celtic. But you know, you like to have you like to have big names, and I felt that Robbie ob the with his record, you know, it wasn't a CV wasn't that great, but I feel that a championship club, you know, something that Lampard has done now, if we went to a championship club on that, and it would actually be very good for him to do that. We we won't even talk about the Israel thing because uh it's getting into the politics um people know might might think about um the situation with Israel. I wouldn't be a big fan of theirs. Robbie Keane will eventually get you know get there somewhere as well. We're talking about League of Ireland, and it's great to see a former League of Ireland manager who's now involved with the women's team um doing well, and that's Gary Cronin. Gary's there, um lovely guy, really, really nice guy. He was a player at Longford Town and then a manager as well, and one of the nicest guys, um, and obviously you have Carla Ward there. It was always gonna be a tough task. Great result against um Holland David, but it was always gonna be a tough task to get that win over there against France. But you know, during the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Well, I'm I'm gonna give you on that. I I watched that match obviously, kept a pretty close eye because we've been talking about it. Um and if you if you get a chance again, just maybe in an hour and a half's time, or you just I've got an hour and a half to go look at something. Watch it again. If that French goalkeeper hadn't played the way she played it, I might have one.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

She actually had a she actually had a court, she had a Courtney Brosnan that evening.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

Peacod, Pig Peacod, how's the peacod's her name? And I tell you one thing, she was unbelievable. And to actually think that when the group was made up, we looked at him and we went, Oh, Thor is gonna be best. To actually go into the last game take it, we couldn't. If we win, we go through, we go automatically through, which was which was brilliant. And then to put the performance in that he did, like the last twenty minutes, the French side were on the back foot. If you were on the back foot a hundred percent. And she just kept pulling out save after save after save. But to get it to that point was a massive, massive achievement for the Irish team. And I I don't have any issue with any playoff. I think they would go through.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

I have to say now I'm loving Carla Wards, and I had a an argument with someone, you know, they're giving out about Katie McCabe and her over Vera, but I've heard stories about Vera and I think Carla's come in and she's been uh a breath of fresh air. And you could see it with the players, and people were questioning uh Roosh little John, but Roosha's the type of player that I know she has her injuries, but she would play him one foot for Ireland, like she's that type of player. But Owen, you know, what David was saying, apart from the if the French keeper didn't have the game of her life that evening, we would have been through when you think of it, you know, w with the chances that Ireland had. But isn't it great to see the women, and as David said, w when the draw was made about how tough that groove was, but in those last couple of games, how well we performed.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

Yeah, but even you've got some kind of took over. We played the top international teams. We're putting it up to results against them. You know, it's not the case of Ireland from before where hopefully you keep the score line down. I just think that the self-office of my um to see them in another World Cup. Um the last one the hype that we win, you know, because we're building all the time, I'm getting better all the time. So you'd like to think the next World Cup will be one of the strongest teams, you know, going into it. And who knows down the road we might uh eventually win one. And even if you look at Japan and this World Cup, there's a hundred year plan for a third way through that they're gonna win the World Cup. You know, they have a plan for and I'm sure Ireland women have a plan of what they want to do and what they want to achieve.

SPEAKER_00 46:00

Isn't it isn't it great to see, you know, uh and at this moment in time, look at lads, we could talk forever about sports, you know. You the interest in the rugby, and we haven't even talked about that. And by the way, as a rugby league fan, I'm not a big fan of the royal family or knighthoods or things like that. But I have to say, Peville Sinfield, I don't know, lads. Well, probably David You would you probably do know um Owen Sinfield finally getting that knighthood for what he has done.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Uh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I know like I said, I I know I've no real interest in people getting knighthoods and things because you see some of the people that do get them really don't deserve those.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

Rod Stewart.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

Well, there's people out there pushing themselves forward on night hoods and you know, and saying, Oh, I deserve it at this, where you should have genuine people that deserve it, you know, I'd probably miss out on it, but then you see the real people get in and you say, you know what, they actually deserve it.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

Yeah, because when he spoke, David, he when when it was announced, he started talking about Rob Burrow, his best friend, and it was about what Rob would have thought, and what Rob and here's a guy who's just after getting a knighthood, I'm actually getting emotional now, and he went back to talking about his best friend. Um, you know, this that's the type of guy that's you know Kevin Sinfield is, and I've been a massive Leeds Rhinos fan, and he was always been my my favourite player and as a leader. He's a bit of a an Owen Harry on the field. Actually, it would remind me quite of you, Owen, in that way of going on, you know, you unassuming, great leader. God, I'm actually praising Owen Harry. I was gonna say, you know, um I was actually saying, I was gonna say nice things on hairy, but now, you know, that comment now, David, forget about it. But you know, he's so unassuming, he's such a leader that but yes, when he got the night hole, it was he just wanted to talk about his friend Rob. But you know, that's the one time, David, that you do agree with things like that.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Yeah, no, I will I will say one thing, I'm a little bit older than you two guys. Um giving out when I was growing up, you had to hear them and you weren't just giving out wiggly. Now, the other fella that played for Manchester United and went Captain Deagon and Ben Nabolica or whatever his name was.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Oh, that blondie guy, yeah, his wife or famous.

SPEAKER_03 48:06

True.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

If you remember, if you remember Beckham, do you remember him? Right, he was standing in the queue at the funeral, he was trying everything, he couldn't get her at all any other way, and then he did that. But they're giving him out now two willy-nilly, and it's a profile thing, and it's it's it's wrong, whatever you agree, whether you should get night holes or MVs or not. But yes, what you just said about the lad with the rugby league. He's missing his friend. He got he got the honour in honour of his friend. That's the way I I look at it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

That's exactly it. Look at lads, I'm gonna let you go off. Thank you so much. I'm sure we'll bump into what I'm hoping we'll bump into each other at a League of Ireland ground, either daily mountain or against uh Pat can see Bowles winning. Pardon me? Oh yeah, sorry, I want to go to the Pat's Bowles game to hopefully see my cousin score a goal against Bowles. Yeah, maybe because uh Longford Town are away now the next two weeks, so I need my red and black fixes at it. Obviously, Rennie, Rennie's a former town player, so That's right. Yeah, I might I might go to the yeah, I might go to the Pats. You know, Paul McNally talks about the playoff and he'd already signed for Bowles and a relegation playoff, but um that could have gone different than I because Rennie got sent off that night, and if we had been relegated, yeah, things would have went totally different. But I'm now thinking, yeah, I might go to the Bows game, um, David and Damyman Park if you'd like to go, because I'm not seeing I'll probably go and see Ryan, but I'm not gonna meet up with anyone else or say hello to anyone else. After all, those those sly little digs tonight, you know. I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 49:43

I'm off I'm off to talk to it next Monday night for for Shelburne and Bows game.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Oh, that'd be a nice one.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

Oh, that'd be a nice and it's nice a Monday evening. You know what I mean? It's nice to get the odd game on a Monday.

SPEAKER_00 49:54

That's it, yeah. That is nice.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

Father's Day is on Sunday. Yeah, Father's Sunday, directly after this to match.

SPEAKER_03 50:03

So Father Day is Monday, we're I like it, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Look at lads, thank you so much. We could chat forever. I'm gonna get you into Love Island. I think I'll get you into Low Island. Right, you take care. Thank you so much, lads.