Dialed Podcast 363 - Sea Otter, Bucket List Items for All Things Cycling, and Race Recaps

We are back with racing recaps, gear talk from Sea Otter, wild fan behavior at Paris-Roubaix, and a deep dive into our ultimate cycling bucket list items. Enjoy the podcast!

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• 0:56 Intro
• 1:48 Backpedal
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• 20:37 Leadout News
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• 1:09:03 One Last Thing...

Transcript

Intro: [00:00:00] Shut up and sit down.

Hi, Sharon. Thought I'd give you a ring. It crossed my mind. And now I'm wondering if you are not settled in. You might like to meddle in some adrenaline pumping pedal in Oh dolls. I thought you'd never ask. I'd love to get my hide behind some handlebars. You are listening to another episode of The Dialed Podcast with Matt LeGrand. Sir Ian Gibson, Lance Heppler and Jake von Duering Tip of the day talk Does not cook rice. So stop  with yapping and get to it already. You can watch me push my push back mat. My noise seems like a sweet deal. It's a three wheel. Get a steal. Steal to show from your Camry on. My bicycle was icicle. I immediately regret this decision.

Jake: I welcome back to Dialed Podcast, I'm Jake von Duering and I'm here with Lance Freaking Heppler. 

Lance: Hey, [00:01:00] it's frigging Heppler. In studio. Fricking it. Fricking, fricking, fricking, fricking. Lickty. Splitty. 

Matt: Whoa. All hopped up on, what am I drinking? Spin Drift. Spin drift. Remember we used to ask what you drinking? What was that? Was an Evan thing.

Yeah. And we haven't been doing that lately. We got, we got a couple spin drifts and I'm kicking it with the Kirkland Old. Our old Because cause. 

Ian: Nobody cares. They, what are you talking about? That's, they 

Matt: care clearly. Stop. The king has spoken. 

Jake: Okay. Nobody cares. Disparaging sponsor sponsors 

Matt: like that. 

Jake: They care. 

Matt: They care. Kirkland sponsor. 

Jake: All right. Two is right. One only. Sir Ian Gibson. 

Ian: Gibson. Hello. 

The King’s back. No British slang. 

Ian: Uh, bugger. Bollocks. Like, damn. Yeah. No tossing. I don't have anything. Sweet.

Jake: All right. And Matt LeGrand

Matt: What's up ladies and gentlemen of the internet? You guys look fan. Freaking fantastic.

All right. Excellent. Moving right along. Back pedal. Matt, go. Uh. I finished out the hundred. We, I think [00:02:00] the podcast that we did was Thank you, thank you, thank you everyone. Um, we, yeah, so we've been doing this challenge. If you guys haven't been paying attention to all the dialed stuff, it's, uh, a hundred days in a row starting on January 1st, uh, an hour or more.

I’ve been Biking. I did that and then promptly took a couple days off biking. I've biked once. And you've lost all your fitness already? Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, there wasn't that much fitness there because you can bike an hour a day and still not gain that much fitness, which I did. Um, but yeah, I biked, uh, Sunday outside.

It was gorgeous and biked with some old triathlon buddies and. I mean, having it a hundred days of fitness in your legs is not bad. No, it's not. It's something that's good. You, you, you know, it wasn't a struggle out there. So there's that. And, uh, been running and swimming a good bit. So backpedal. Moving along.

Well done, well done. 

Intro: Dodgy wankers, I mean, dodgy winker. Dodgy wanker. Wankers 

Jake: Ok, Gibbo back pedal

Ian: Um, weather up here in the Pacific [00:03:00] Northwest has been gorgeous. Yes. This last week. So finally, so, um, yeah, I've been riding my bike. Sweet. Um, Sunday actually went back to Thes Shootout. First time in probably six months.

Wow. How's that? Spicy. 

Matt: Yeah, 

Ian: it was a good turnout. It was probably 40 guys. Um. Oh, that's good. Yeah. We lapped the island at like 26, 27 miles an hour. Almost made it to the end of the lead group. Got dropped with about a kilometer to go. It was hard. How do you, but it's a great ride. I love that. 

Lance (2): How do you compare that SAVI Shootout to the Tucson Shootout We did as the team when we were in Tucson.

Big, totally different. 

Ian: Well, the, the Tucson is Tucson flat. Tucson was way bigger. There's a lot. Yeah. How many was that? It was 200 

Matt: in, in, so it's nowhere near, like thats island on a big day. Probably like 40, 40 ish. Maybe 50. Maybe. Maybe 50. 

Ian: I think the major difference is the Tucson [00:04:00] is. Got some elevation to it.

So when that thing kicks off, you're immediately on like a three, 4% steady climb. And so you've gotta put the power down. Whereas at Sal Shootout, you, you can basically sit in, sit in for a lot of that 

Lance (2): because it's flat. 

Ian: It's flat. Yeah. But still there's some big surges and attacks and Sure. It's great spicy.

Anyway, uh, the following day, Monday was the first edition of PIR Poland International Raceway Weekday racing here for 2025, which I was at alongside my good friend Lance and many other dialed teammates. It was a great night. Fun. We had, 

Lance (2): we had 12 or 15 dialed 

Matt: teammates out there racing Monday night. You went race pace and then you raced.

Yeah, and then, and I took a day off. You took a day off, okay. 

Ian: Yeah. But race pace, you know that our group, uh. [00:05:00] We were lapping at, uh, we averaged 28.3 miles per hour for that race. It's not a lot when you compare it to the pros, but it was, 

Lance (2): it was fast. That's still pretty fast. 

Ian: The funny thing is it didn't feel fast 'cause I was just sat sheltering the whole time until the last lap.

Lance (2): Well weather, there was like 70 people in that race. Yeah. That big field. You did, you did a 1, 2, 3 race and there must have been like 70 people in it, so Yeah. 

Ian: Must have been 70 people. Um, did my usual sat in the back for most of the race and then moved right up to the front on the last lap and actually pulled out, out 

Outro: for you.

Yeah, 

Ian: it was good. It was good. The, the, the sprint was interesting. I kind of got boxed in, but did Okay. 

Lance (2): Yeah. 

Ian: Yeah. Good for you. It was fun. Great fun. Cool. That's it. 

Lance (2): Uh, I, I raced my bike a whole bunch again this week. Uh, I went to Bone Crusher, which is a, uh, there was a short track race [00:06:00] on Saturday and then a cross country race on Sunday.

This was event in Madris, Oregon, out near Bend, uh, the Saturday short track. It was a, like a one mile lap that we only did like, it was a 20 minute race, so it was full gas. Go as hard as you possibly can. Short track race. I love short track racing. I enjoy it very much. Um, I think I'm fairly decent at it, but I got my ass kicked.

No, all the Bing guys, it was because I'm, I'm racing Cat one now. Yeah. And so it's just, it's different in Cat one. And I, I only lost, I guess I shouldn't say I got my ass kicked. I only lost by like 10 seconds. I was like just around the corner from the guys in that won it. But I think I was, there was only four people in our group and I was fourth, so there you go.

Yeah. So there you go. Even though my time, like for five laps, whatever we did was faster than every other Cat two racer. But that, but that's okay. [00:07:00] That's, that's why I should be in cat one. Yeah. And then 

Matt: you went to PIR? 

Lance (2): No. And then Sunday was the cross country mountain bike race. How was that? Um, this race, I would think that 

Matt: that would be more fun.

Lance (2): It was extremely fun. The course was fantastic. The trails were in great shape. Nothing was super technical. Really fast, flowy, fun trails to ride. A couple of climbs. None of the climbs are too long or too drawn out. Um, we, my, the cat ones did five laps of this four mile loop and so it was, you know, what was it, an hour and 30 minute race for me or something like that.

It's 'cause we were moving. But again, cat won 50 plus. I got eighth place out of. Eight. Nailed it. I was, how far 

Jake: off were you from seventh? 

Lance (2): Um, I was like 90 seconds off of seventh. It's not too bad because on the last lap when I realized I'm not catching that guy, and this guy and the guy behind me, the, they were like.[00:08:00] 

There were younger cat ones behind me that I passed. Sure. There nobody else is catching me. I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna enjoy this lap. So I could been no chance 

Jake: of covering that 92nd 

Lance (2): gap. Huh? No. Uhuh, there wasn't. I actually had like three really fast, good laps where I was in the mix in the top three.

Yeah. So I felt really good for like three laps, but it was a five lap 

Jake: race. Does it make any sense for you in that situation to go hard on that last lap regardless, just so that you can kind of mentally prepare yourself and physiologically prepare yourself for the next race maybe? Or are you getting enough of that in your training?

I think I'm getting enough of that in my 

Matt: training. What do you mean training? The only 

Lance (2): these two guys, all they do is race. Yeah. I set like, like, like Strava prs on every segment during that race. I set like power PRS for the year. I've done. FIF 18 days of racing already this year and I set power PRS for the year.

Wow. In that race and still was dead last in the 50 [00:09:00] pluses. So 

Matt: you think your power meter's accurate on 

Lance (2): that bike? It is. I've double checked it. Okay. 

Matt: Yeah, that's good news 

Lance (2): because that, 'cause that would that, that was the same thing. I thought, okay, maybe something's not right. Yeah. Why am I setting the power prs?

Then I look and I'm like, 

Jake: oh no. Yeah. We kind of talked about this a little bit yesterday, but I'll ask you again right now. If that race, it was five laps, right? Five laps. If that race goes from five laps to four laps, does that change your competitive mix with respect? Yes. You win, like you think you can hold with people or hang with 

Lance (2): people?

I'd be in it. You think so? Yeah. I wouldn't be all the way in it, but I, I wouldn't be. Eighth, I'd be Midback fifth. Okay. 

Ian: Well, 

Jake: you know, that's a valid question too. 'cause Yeah. Part of that conversation is, well, first and foremost I always give you a little bit of crap about like, of course, you know, being in Cat two and I, I told you this yesterday as well.

I'll tell you again, I, I. I totally love the idea of racing at a cat one level. I just don't have the time to put in to make myself competitive for the longer distances. Right? So, like on the roadside of things, I went from a, a three to a two many moons [00:10:00] ago, and it went from like, all right, your average race is gonna be in that, I dunno, 50, 60 mile range to all of a sudden it's like 80, you know, ish miles give or take of a little bit.

And that, that's a whole different level that you have to be ready for. And if you wanna be competitive there with the people that are hitting at that caliber, yeah, that's like, alright, at the time I was 10, 11, 12, 13 hours a week. That's more of like, alright, I have to make a 15, 16, 17, maybe 20 hour a week commitment and trying to like work and do family things and, and have a little bit of enjoyment with the writing in general.

Like, that was really tough to manage. Albeit it wasn't a very long period of time that I had to do that. But the, the moral of the story is that that's a big ask of a lot of people. It'd be, I dunno, is it, is it Bush League to say like the races need to be shorter or not quite as hard? No, I don't know. 

Lance (2): No, it 

Jake: doesn't 

Lance (2): Bush League Bush.

No they shouldn't. They actually, that race probably should have been longer. You think so? Yeah. For, you know, for a cat one, for a Mount Cross country, mountain bike race, I mean [00:11:00] under an hour and a half, under 90 minutes. That's pretty, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, 

Ian: also, I feel the, um, the 50 plus the, the masters categories are some of the most competitive, I mean, on the road as well.

Um, if you have the higher category guys, the cat one, cat two guys that have a lot of experience, a lot of years in their legs, you know. Sure. Perhaps they were ex pros, they were ex. Elite rider. Elite rider. Yeah. Um, yeah, there's carrying that fitness into their fifties when they do have more time to train perhaps, you know?

Yeah. It's, it's super competitive. So to be up there, even if you feel like you're at the lower end of those people's abilities, it's still, it's still, um, a good deal. 

Lance (2): This, this is all very nice of you guys to say, but I was pissed. Yeah. I was like, 

Ian: you could have used a hug. 

Lance (2): I, I didn't. I was, I felt really bad afterwards for a couple days.

I'm like, you. I've had a great winter of [00:12:00] training other than the crash and my wife's injury, but I've had a great winter of training. I'm putting out really good numbers. I'm feeling really fast, and then I go out there and just get freaking slaughtered and I'm like, what, what more could I do? I 

Ian: don't really know, I don't think being beaten by seven guys is, is being slaughtered.

No. Okay. That was the, that was the entire field. But yes, if twice, you know, if you, if there was 16, 20 guys. Out racing that day. That doesn't mean you would've been in 20th place, but I mean, 

Lance (2): but but doesn't it? But if it's, what if it could be? I, I got it. You can 

Jake: still take a fun approach to it though. I mean, maybe it's time to take a look at your training plan and what you're doing and see how that can be altered so that you can get a slightly better result.

I mean, hire 

Outro: coach. 

Jake: There you go. Yeah, I, I know someone, you know, seriously, like maybe, maybe it's time to switch it up a little bit and try a different style of training to see how that lends itself to you. If you can increase like your [00:13:00] durability and your endurance and it's a durability issue for sure.

Yeah. Maybe that's what you need to do and, you know, you do a crap ton of sweet spots, but stuff maybe it's time to back off that, that a little bit and change it up a little bit. I, I dunno, I haven't done 

Lance (2): a sweet spot workout since the, since I started racing because you're ra you're racing all the time.

Matt: Uh, also that, I mean. It's, you're not gonna stop. You're Lance Heer. You're gonna keep doing what you're doing. You're gonna race all time. You do like doing the races, you're gonna do all the, you're gonna race all the time. And then when you go out and train, you're gonna go for KA whims. You're Lance Heer.

That's what you do. And it's fun. And it works. It does. That's true. And you're just gonna have to sacrifice. Sometimes you're gonna get seventh place. It's 

Lance (2): part of the brand, so, right. That's part of my brand. Is race too much? Not that fast. So, but what did I do after Sunday when I drove all the way home and I woke up Monday morning, PIR, I went and did PIR and I didn't just like go do the race.

I rode to the race. I rode to PIR, which is like 12 miles. You raced your 

Matt: guts out. You probably threw up, you probably had threw up some salsa somewhere, and then you rode home. [00:14:00] Then I rode home. I wonder why you, you feel like crap the next day. Who knows? 

Lance (2): Yeah. I didn't do that. So, yeah, 

Ian: that was pr I, 

Lance (2): yeah, I was, you know, I actually had a blast at PR because part of it was no.

Race. Like I, I had no expectations. Yeah. That, that's nice. I did not expect to do well at all. I'm here for the workout to go fast, maybe to help some teammates, maybe to see how this folds out, you know, and just kind of roll with it. So I ended up having a really good time. There was a, I had five teammates in my field.

I raced the four or five field and there were, there were five of us in there, which was, which was also great. And there was a point where. Uh, I ended up doing like two or three laps sitting behind three of my teammates who were all just like blocking wind for me. And I'm like, oh, this is fantastic. It's just the way it kind of worked out.

Yeah. And so I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna rest here until the final lap. I got in the perfect position on the final lap, right on my teammate Jen's wheel, who ended up winning the race. Nice. [00:15:00] And I'm on his wheel. I'm like, okay, this is perfect. I'm, there's, you know, five, 600 meters to go. I'm on Jen's wheel.

We're moving pretty fast. Um, team Oregon was trying to like, lead out one of their guys, so it was all going pretty fast and I thought, okay, this is perfect. I'll just sit on Jen's wheel and I'll just let him pull me along and we'll see how it goes. With like 300 meters to go. Um, team Oregon sat up, 

Ian: he got swamped.

Lance (2): So the whole field slowed down and we got swamped. And when we got swamped, the whole field just like pinched in. And I got pinched right off of Jen's wheel. Now could I have been way more aggressive to stay on it? I could have, and I was like, no, f this, this is a four five race. I'm not gonna let one of these guys crash me out.

So yeah, I dumped it. Perfect. So yeah, good. I mean, I still got a good workout in. I I did get a good workout. Yeah. And I had a good time and I saw my buddies and uh, so it was fun to be there. So. [00:16:00] Anyway. Holy crap. I talked, I didn't wanna talk this much and I still just, 'cause I raced three times. Jake, how was your, it's part of your 

Jake: brand.

Lance (2): It's part of my brand race all the time. Just not fast. 

Jake: I, I, uh, un unlike all y'all, I, I did not race well, I guess Matt didn't race anybody. I didn't race. Yeah. Um, but I did ride outside a couple times and I'm just kind of enjoying the fact that, that that's back on the calendar for me. I'm really loving the, the whole not being on a trainer thing.

And as a matter of fact, we, we did our, our lab lunch ride yesterday at lunchtime and that was just beautiful outside. It was lovely and it was so nice to be able to like, carve that into the middle of the day and get a ton of work done in the morning and get a bunch of work done after that and be able to, like, when I came home, take care of some of the family stuff, but then know that I can just relax for the rest of the evening.

I don't have to go sit on the trainer for an hour and however long on top of that, it was just a good feeling. And then, uh. We didn't do the flogging ride last week. Um, it, it rained decently. Well, it wasn't, it wasn't nice. Bummer. Yeah. I, I still have not been able to make it back to the Tuesday night gravel ride yet.

A my bike [00:17:00] still has a couple things I need to get done to it, but, uh, the other part of it's my son's been running track and field in that just happens to be when all of the, the events have been landing is on Tuesdays. Yep. So I didn't see there on Tuesday. Uh, this I'm sure you were there. I was there. I was sitting I'm sure you were the bleachers melting.

Yeah. Um, but my son, I was out on the field running around. Yeah. Just a, a quick little side note on my son. He, uh, he prd on the, gosh, what was it? The a hundred? A hundred? Yeah. He, he, he's guy is 11 4 7 I think was Dang fantastic. So he's like. He's like now getting like a, a, a look at for possibly getting pulled up to do some of the varsity stuff, maybe there.

Oh boy. He's, uh, he PRD the week before that and his, his long jump and his triple jump and, um, he's been asked to fill in for some people that have been injured or missing for, um, different reasons for doing the four by 100. So he's really kind of finding his own, it's, it's kind of fun to watch your kid find something, ball field, good sport.

Yeah. Fall in love with it. So 

Lance (2): I, uh, I held my high school triple jump record for 22 years. Wow. What was, what was the distance? 45, 10. Wow. In high school. That's, that's big time. Geez. Yeah. [00:18:00] And then some dude came along and just smoked me. Yeah, 

Jake: I know. It's kind of funny, like you start to like search up some of these things just to see like how, you know, how they actually do this and what the, the nuances are.

And then you start to see some of the records. And I think I saw a record, it's like over 60 feet now. Yes. The world record is over 60 feet. That is insane. Yes. The guy that I saw do that was, he looked like a spring, but it was so effortless and he just glided through the air. I'm like, it's, they get, they get so much distance.

Yep. It's amazing. Pretty amazing stuff. So, 

Lance (2): and they're all like 10, 200 meter runners, which is why they jump so far. Geez. Yeah. 

Jake: Um, outside of that, just, uh, just normal stuff. I was outta town last weekend, so I, I missed a, a Saturday ride, but I did come back and do a Sunday ride solo and just kind of wanted to fill things out 

Matt: and, oh yeah.

Sorry I missed you on that one. No, it was, 

Jake: you 

Matt: know. 

Jake: I gave you 15 minutes notice. That's 

Matt: normal. And I had literally just walked in. I think I still had my kid on. And you were like, let's go. And I'm like, uh, just missed you. So, 

Lance (2): but yeah. Gotta say, I did get to ride with Jake on Wednesday, on the lab Wednesday.

And we haven't ridden together outside in. It's 

Jake: probably since last August maybe. [00:19:00] 

Lance (2): It's been a long, long time. Yeah. It's been So that was lovely to be able to ride with Jake. Yeah. 

Jake: Yeah. You, you gotta come to the flogging road tonight. Gotta postpone your, uh, Jake. I'm, I'm trying to come. Sure. Duty. He 

Matt: can't, he has a job.

He is a, he's waiting staff at a fancy, at a fancy. 

Lance (2): My wife's having a little get together tonight and I believe I am on like, servant duty during the, during the event, Butler Butler. 

Matt: Oh, his little 

Lance (2): butler outfit. Oh, waiter. Boy. I gotta put, I gotta, I gotta clean my skis. I gotta wear my budgie smugglers for the uh, yes you do for the event.

It's all women, so, you know, I 

Matt: assume that it's gonna be wild. Sorry. 

Jake: Anyway, that, that's about it. I will be out there doing the flogging rights tonight. Hopefully, uh, more people can come out and join us. Hopefully Lance finds a way to get up there. 'cause it'd be fun to do that. Don't tell him what he'll be wearing.

Yeah, we know. 

Matt: My Bud Smugger. Everybody knows it's not a secret. 

Jake: Awesome. All right, let's move on. You don't need to talk about me anymore. Here we go. Cha [00:20:00] Bailey horse. Ooh, champ. Here. 

Outro: Time smash your face into a car windshield. And then take your mother, Dorothy, man tooth out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her.

Lance (2): Yeah. Dorothy, I miss you. I love you. Please don't leave me Dorothy Mayew. Alright, we got Champ here. There was a race on Sunday, if I remember correctly. There was a race. We did have Peri Ru Bay. It was super exciting to watch. It was, it lived up to the hype, which, which they were kind of building up. Um, I watched quite a bit of it, even though I was at the race.

I like woke up. I woke up at like 4:00 AM still because oh, what the race is on, and I rolled over and turned on my phone and, and watched for like three hours. The, I 

Ian: watched the whole thing. Did you watch the whole thing? I came back from the shootout. 

Lance (2): Just let and watch the whole thing. 

Ian: Yeah. Just lay on the couch in six hours of racing.

Lance (2): So it was very exciting. Um, uh, it, it was [00:21:00] the showdown between Matthew Vanderpool and Ade Pcia that we thought would happen. Uh, they ended up getting away from everybody else, and I didn't see the break. 

Matt: I, I think I saw the last, like 40 kilometers or so, and I didn't, so I didn't see how they broke away from the group.

But it was 

Lance (2): on, 

Matt: it was some climb. 

Lance (2): No, there is no climbs. Really? Oh. In Perry Bay. That's the thing. That's why, that's why the race favorite vanderpool over Poot because there really aren't any climbs. I mean, there's some elevation game, but not very much. Yeah. You know, for a 270 kilometer race or something.

But you know, there's 19 probably sections. Yeah, yeah. Cobblestone sections. And, and the one before, it's not 19, there's like 30 isn't there? I think 19. Yeah. Something. Right now the Ehrenberg Forest is the big one, which is it's number 19. Number 19. Okay. That's why I was thinking 19. But, um, uh. Poot kept trying to [00:22:00] attack and drop people.

Yep. But Vanderpool could pull 'em back. Yeah. And then there was one final attack that only Vanderpool was able to pull back and they got away from everybody else, and they were riding together when Poot crashed around a corner. And it wasn't a hard crash. It, he really kind of fell down into the Yeah. He went off the cobbles into the grass.

He took, he, he 

Matt: cooked a turn. 

Lance (2): He cooked a turn. The, the motorcycle in front of him hit the fence. 

Matt: Really? 

Lance (2): Yeah. And the motorcycle kind of crashed. 

Matt: Yeah. And 

Lance (2): he was following the motorcycle and so he went into the grass and fell over. It wasn't really a crash, but when he got up, his chain was off. Yep. And it took him a while to get his chain back on.

Matt: And also the crowds like run out there and like try to help him and it just seems like they're in the way. Yes. But anyway, I mean, who knows? Maybe they're great, maybe they're helpful, but 

Lance (2): So that gave Vanpool like a 22nd gap? Yes. By the time he got back on. But then, uh, he. Todd was still having trouble and had to swap a bike.

Did he did a bike change and then all of a sudden it was a minute and then it was a minute and [00:23:00] that was it. And that's the game over. Yeah. Yeah. So VanderPol ended up riding the last, I don't know, 20 5K by himself and he won by over a minute. 

Matt: In a lot of ways. It's a little, it's a little bit of a boring race if you think about it.

Two guys broke away, they battled a little bit and there was basically a Oh really? Yeah. Not mechanical, but like whatever you wanna call that. And then that's it. Race over. But it's, it's nothing came down to the track for a sprint. Nothing cool like that, which is Yes, that's what you wanna see. That's a shame.

Lance (2): Yeah. I assume didn't do, that's, that's 

Matt: the dream finish. 

Lance (2): So, so that's begs the question, if they had come in to the velodrome together. 

Matt: Okay, great question. Who would've 

Lance (2): won VanderPol? All of us would think mvp, 

Matt: right? 

Lance (2): I would think MVP. 

Matt: Yeah. 

Lance (2): Yeah, for sure. 

Matt: I mean, I. CIO can sprint. Like I've seen him Sprint.

He can sprint at the end of races. He can sprint, but, 

Lance (2): um, it's at Milan, San Remo. And he blew, he was not. 

Ian: But what, what happened to CIO is, was that happens all over that race. True. You know, everybody flats, everybody [00:24:00] crashes. Everybody has a mechanical, uh, MVP one because he was the strongest, but also none of none of that stuff happened to him.

So 

Lance (2): yeah, not true. When he was off the front by, by himself, he also flatted, but he had like 10, he had a ten second 

Matt: bike, had a bike. Did you see that bike change? Yeah. It was like a thing of beauty. It was like almost, it was almost like a planned, like, let's switch bikes. It was so smooth. You know how they do like in like a time trial?

Sometimes they'll switch off bikes. But 

Ian: the other thing I I was, it was too bad that Paterson had a, had a mechanical Paterson. He would've been right up there. 

Lance (2): Yeah. He was in the group with the lead and flattered on a confection. Yeah. Yep. And so that was, that was it. 

Outro: Yeah. 

Matt: Yeah. I thought that was, it was a good race to watch, but in a lot of ways I'm like, uh, it's, you know, it, I agree.

It lived up to the hype and the, the, the hype was like, it's gonna go these two guys versus each other. And it lived up to that. I, yeah, I think, but the drama happened before the Velodrome. Yes. Yeah. On couple [00:25:00] sections. So I mean it's, I mean there's, there's cool stuff to watch, but then 

Ian: you had this sort of 10 k individual pursuit that was kind of interesting as well.

Yes. Like MVP trying to hold off CIA who got within 12 seconds of him at one point. Yeah. And then full blowing up, 

Matt: gasped back. I know. I thought I was like, oh he'll, he'll catch back up like 12 seconds. He can Yeah. Make that up. He was almost that. Right. 

Lance (2): And, and Mods Peterson still, um, caught back up with the Chase group, um, after swapping his bike and ended up out sprinting W Van Art for third.

So w ended up fourth by like a tire width or something like that. Wow. I didn't even see that. Yeah. So it was still, still very good racing. I was like, I'm going biking. I'm 

Matt: outta here. I was like pushing it to try and like make it to the ride on time and, and see the race. And then I couldn't talk about the race 'cause the people on the ride like hadn't seen it yet.

So, 

Lance (2): uh, it was fun. So that's, that's major stuff that happened. The women's race was also equally exciting. Um. Pauline [00:26:00] Farran Prevo, who just won the Olympic gold medal in mountain biking. Um, she showed up and ended up just riding off the front of the group. Wow. And soloed in for like the last 30 K and she, and she won solo.

Wow. Good for her too. So, so exciting race there too. What else? Anything else happen? Or is that it? Is there any other results? Yeah, there's other smaller races going on, but nothing that's that exciting local stuff, right? 

Jake: Yeah. There's local stuff. What about the Jack Hole who, uh, threw the water bottle?

That MVP? We could talk about that. 

Lance (2): Oh, that's a whole nother thing. He, he like, uh, so yeah, so MVP, I don't know why he gets so much hate, but. I think the Belgians don't like him. I, they gotta be Belgians who are doing this, but, but MVP gets and drinking, there's a lot of, a 

Matt: lot of drinking involved, 

Lance (2): so Yeah, he is, he's out front by himself in the last, like 20 K and [00:27:00] somebody chucked a full water bottle at his face.

They kind of 

Matt: underhanded under, threw it, undersung it. So it kind of went up into his face. Yes. And I was watching that. I was like, did, did someone just throw water bottle at him? It bounce bounced off his face because they moved right through that. They 

Lance (2): didn't 

Matt: talk 

Lance (2): about it on the, uh, they've already found the guy, he already like admitted.

He, he like, like he's completely apologetic and said, what a loser he was for doing something like that. He's in trouble, but he's gonna be in trouble. He chucked a full water bottle at. MVP's face. And there's other shots of people throwing beer on him too. Oh, really? At the same thing. So I think 

Matt: he was really pissed.

'cause he's like, no, we're going, we're taking this guy to, we 

Lance (2): took a waterfall in the face. I'd be ticked off too. 

Matt: Yeah. But I mean, a lot of times you see these riders and they're like the, there's two ways to do it. It's like, Hey, we're not gonna talk about this 'cause we don't want to like, encourage more people to do stupid stuff.

Yeah. And they kind of like, hush, hush it down or whatever. Or the other side, which is kind of the way that things seem to be going is like, Nope, there's gonna be articles written about this. We're [00:28:00] suing this guy. Like we're taking him all this stuff. Yeah. We're taking him to court. Like we're pursuing this.

Like, the team's getting involved and like, it's, it's a mess. It's a mess. It 

Lance (2): is a mess. You know, just you, you just don't wanna see that. You want people to be respectful but man fanatics are called fanatics for a reason. 'cause you're not thinking rationally. 

Matt: It reminds me like, I think there was, what, there was like what, three, three or four years ago, Chris Vroom getting like pissed thrown at him.

Mark Caven the thing. Same. I feel like same thing, it was like they were disliked. 

Lance (2): Yeah. Getting spit at getting people, throwing beer, people throwing glasses of urine at them. Yeah. That, that's happened to all those guys. Yeah. So, but there's some kind of hate for vanderpool from the Belgians. Because he's Dutch.

There's a, there's, there's a lot 

Ian: of this in, in professional sports in Spectated sports, especially in Europe. I mean, if you go to a soccer match over there, oh 

Lance (2): yeah. It's, there's a lot of, you take your life in your hands at a [00:29:00] soccer match, Hey, in England. 

Ian: Yeah. But the difference is, you know, with road racing, those fans can stand right at the side of the road.

You can touch them in the road. You can touch them. Yes. Whereas a soccer match or whatever you distance, you're in the stands 

Lance (2): distance, and there's, and there's a 10 foot fence with barbed wire above into the certain places. Right. 

Ian: Yeah. The guy that, but, but people get tribal, people get, you know. They, I think it was because this was a Dutchman, there are out riding their Belgium favorites.

Yes. You know, there 

Matt: are tens of dollars on the line. People, the stakes are, the stakes are medium stakes. Medium. Yeah. 

Jake: The guy who, uh, threw the water bottle actually turned himself into authorities the day after the race. And when asked, why did you do that? And he, he, he said, I, I can't give you a good excuse.

I can't give you a good reason. It was just stupid. And I deeply regret what I did. So I, I mean, spur the moment is like 

Lance (2): all freaking A here Vanderbilt, whoop. Yeah. Bottle. 

Jake: And he did [00:30:00] issue a, a formal apology to VanderPol and wrote him a letter or something like that. And he wanted to make sure he got that across first.

And he said at the same time, I realized, um, that I have to apologize to every rider or cycling enthusiast for this, uh, VanderPol was, um. What did he say here, do, do, do, do. He's like, oh, the question was asking myself why did he keeps asking this, the question of why did I do that? And he just says to himself, I have no explanation.

It was an extremely foolish impulse. I can't explain it in any other way. So he's drunk. Probably alcohol, maybe. It's probably something to do with that. I 

Lance (2): just, stupid people. That guy's mom got to him. It sounds like you're gonna write them him a letter and you're gonna apologize. Yeah. And then maybe ask him to send you a bottle.

Jake: Yeah. Yep. Um, they said they arrived around 11 o'clock and they had a drink in the tent nearby, so I, I didn't read the rest. I had one drink in the tent. Yeah, 

Matt: right. I say the same thing to my wife. [00:31:00] Okay. Oh, and you said Yes, just one drink 

Jake: involved. I have to admit that I had a bit too much to drink. So yes, alcohol was probably, so that's it.

Okay. Anyway, I mean. Think of a sport or something where like you've got somebody who's like your arch enemy. Are you guys that much of a sporting enthusiast? I mean, no. It'd be like the a Red Sox seeing like a Yankee player come through. Remember 

Lance (2): the, like you can srk, remember you were the first baseman who got tackled by the father and son at, uh, was it a Yankee game or a Red Sox game?

I think it was something like that. I can't remember what it was, but like a father ran out with his like adult son and they like tackled the first baseman and they both went to jail. Of course. Jeez. And they had to be tackled, but like they stormed the field and like tackled the Yeah. Yeah. I, I mean I could see crap like 

Jake: that happen.

Tension's getting high 'cause you like come to like hate the other team, but it's like, really? You, you hate them? I mean, yeah, you can dislike them. That's fine. I mean, if there's sports teams out there, I don't care for players, I don't care for, but really enough to like throw stuff at them or throw [00:32:00] slurs at them or, I dunno, I just don't get it.

Matt: I actually feel like if you're, the more of a fan of the sport you are, the more you realize that these, these things aren't a good idea. When you're like, don't get it. Don't get close. Yeah. Like, don't, you know, let the racers race. Sure. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Idiots. I. 

Jake: It's All right. Anything else on that?

Anything else? Champ camp out. All right. I forgot. Champ is still here. Exactly. All right. So we've done all of that fun stuff. Um, Hey guys. I mean, is it worthy of playing that or do we need to just plea for We we didn't get any epos. 

Lance (2): We didn't get any epos this week. 

Jake: Yeah, so we'll give him a teaser. That's all you get.

'cause you didn't send us anything. No EPO chain mail for us or you this week. 

Matt: How, how are, wait, how are you going to beat a person on drugs if you're not on drugs? Wait, did you submit to being on drugs? So that's a good, that's a good little intro clip. Yeah. You're not 

Jake: losing 15 pounds this week. Anybody?

Um, yeah, send us more, uh, some more messages. It was, um, hot and heavy last week and this week it was crickets, but I [00:33:00] guess that's just the way it goes. Maybe it's just too nice outside and everybody's out riding their bikes instead. So let us know what's up. Ask us questions. Um, use that little function on the old, um, podcast player that you're using and call it good.

Moving on topic for this week. Bucket list. The word of the day. Bucket list. The bucket list. 

Matt: Bucket list. 

Jake: We, we we're starting to talk about some stuff ahead of time. We started talking about all these different things. We were talking about, what we were trying to, you know, come up with our topic for the day.

And I'm like, there's all these bucket list things, so let's just do a bucket list and it can be just about anything. So. Matt, do you want to kick us off? Yes. With that topic? 

Matt: Absolutely. Let's kick it off. I was, we were talking before and I always feel like half the, half the best parts of the podcast, half the little tidbits.

I'm like, press record. Press record. Like the conversations that we have right prior right. Are so interesting. Uh, but I think the conversation that we were really talking about was like, we talked, started talking about Sea Otter and that's what's going on recently, this week in, in, in Cycling and all of us, I [00:34:00] kinda went around the table, was like, would you, is that someplace you would want to go?

Is that, or you know, is that something that you would want to do? Like, I would want to go check out all the stuff that's there, what they have going on. And it's not that far from us. We're on the West Coast, the United States. And so that was the question. I was like, what about you? What about you? And everyone was like, yeah.

Lance (2): I would love to go to Sea Otter. 

Matt: I think we should, I think we should go next year. But I, I also think that there's just a lot to that. And then we were talking about, and you said, would you race? And I was like, do they have an e-bike? And you were like, yes, they do. They 

Lance (2): do. There's every kind of bike race you would wanna do.

They have it at Sea Otter? Yeah. There's, there's a road race, there's a circuit race, there's a mountain bike race. I What if they have a 

Matt: cargo bike race? 

Lance (2): There's, well there's e-bike races, 

Matt: so maybe look, we'll find out. So, so anyway, so Sea Otter, I think is such an interesting circus. I think that's the right word for it.

It's a circus, right? So you've got all a lot of tech announcements and stuff, which I think I, I would, I would find that very interesting. I could make some videos around it and have fun with that. Uh, there's ridiculous amounts of races, every single race imaginable. [00:35:00] But Do they have a cargo bike race?

Probably not. 

Lance (2): There's e-bikes, there's e-bike, uh, sections in like, uh, two of the mountain bike races and the gravel Right. Race. Oh, cool. You can, but I don't see a, I don't see a, a cargo race. We'll make one car bike. We can make one. 

Ian: I would love to go down there. It's a race. That would be great. They've got everything going on.

Lance (2): You know, the thing is the, the expo is so big. Yeah. There's, and it's an outdoor expo. It's an outdoor expo. It's around the racetrack. You can pick any type of race you wanna do. You wanna do the gravel race? Great. You wanna do the 30 mile grab race or the 90 mile grab race or the 60 mile grab race. Oh. Do you wanna do a circuit race around the racetrack or do you wanna do a road race?

Do you wanna do dual slalom on your mountain bike? What you, Vince 

Matt: you're gonna get stuck doing so many races. 

Lance (2): I, I, I can. That's, I should not 

Matt: go. You're like, I 

Lance (2): have to go. 

Matt: I'm like, oh, I gotta choose between the e mountain bike in the, in the crit race. Gosh, I've just got, I've 

Ian: seriously looked at it a couple of years now, but it always conflicts with the [00:36:00] local races here.

Yeah. Um, and also logistically, I'm not quite sure how I'd do it. Getting my van down there would be one thing, but finding somewhere to I. Camp and park and I bet have camping 

Jake: options down there that are a heck of a lot less expensive than the, uh, hotel rooms. Yeah. So you have to reserve 

Lance (2): a spot you'd have to reserve in advance to park your Van Otter.

Yes. I would think that. Or you're parking like way further out from Monterey. 

Ian: But it's, it's a big deal. So it should be on your bucket list, I would think. If you're a. 

Jake: Yeah, we had a teammate that was down there. He was helping out with some, uh, things for another local bike builder, uh, company around here.

And, uh, he said it was a blast and he, he drove down there and he helped out 'cause he does have a van as well and he helped transport a bunch of stuff down there and, um, said it was just phenomenal. Yeah. Being able to walk around to all of the different exhibition booths and talk to a lot of the, the people that work for said companies and get to see all the new things that are coming out and pick people's brains and just, uh, you know, just have a good time.

So, yeah. [00:37:00] So 

Matt: here's my question is, is Sea Otter the best? I mean, I know this is like only one tiny thing that is at Sea Otter, but the expo and things like that. It is, is it the bicycling mecca or trade organization? I dunno what the way to describe this. Is it the inner bike of now? Yeah, I'd say so that it's, is it the best cycling event?

In the, like in the world, 

Jake: it's the most, it's the biggest and it's got the, the most to offer. I don't think it really leans into the roadside of things very hard. I could be wrong. I don't think that there's a lot of road, um, more gravel stuff there. You got a lot of gravel off-road stuff. Um, I, I, I, I don't know for sure on that, but I think since Interbike has been gone and that's been gone since what, like 2019 or 2020?

It's been gone a long time since like the, the Covid era, if I'm not mistaken. Um, that's the thing that stepped up and took its place. There is a, there's Euro bike. Yeah, but there's just, that's too hard for 

Matt: a lot of people to get over there. That's some, I think somewhere in Germany, I can't remember. So, and there's a Taipei bike show.

Oh yeah. That Taipei bike show, TPE bike show [00:38:00] does something. You feel like those are very different vibe than Sea Otter. So that's another question 

Jake: Unbound, but Oh yeah. Okay. Like Lance mentioned, it's, it's not necessarily owned by Garmin. Yeah, exactly. So there's a few things that might get excluded. Trade show, that's 

Matt: the word I was looking for earlier.

People probably shouting that into the things like, is it the biggest bicycle trade, trade show? Trade, yeah. 

Lance (2): So I, I think, I think Sea Otter has like 400 different vendors Okay. At their list, which is, that's almost everybody in the bike industry. Yeah. I mean, every major brand is gonna have some type of presence there.

Yeah. Any major bike brand or bike related thing is gonna have there and a whole lot of others that you've never heard of. Yeah. Um, Unbound had like 200 vendors. Okay. So still very large. Sure. But Unbounds in June, sea Otters at the beginning of the season in April. And so it coincides 

Jake: more with when things are being launched and released.

Matt: I also wonder if your trade show, if you're, if there's a different type of vibe for a trade show that's like, Hey, you're a potential manufacturer and you're looking for, you know, [00:39:00] um. Manufacturing supply versus like Sea Otter that's more consumer focused or you know, how that stuff plays out. Like I think that like the Taipei bike show is like, Hey, come see like where like the companies that are really kind of underneath the companies that are building bikes, like this is, this is the, you know, types of products that you can, um, you know, third party market your name on this product and you can use it for these sorts of things.

And I feel like it's almost like the, I don't wanna say this in a bad way, but like the underbelly of cycling where it's like, this is where a lot of the real manufacturing takes its place. I don't know if Sea Otter has that vibe or not. Hmm. But I don't know. I haven't been to either of these, so. Well, again, 

Jake: bucket list, from what I hear, it continues to grow and it continues to evolve.

And when you've got a hundred thousand people showing up right, you're doing something right and you're, you're going in the right direction. That's just my 2 cents. 

Ian: Sounds like a big party though. If you, if you are not in the industry and you're just going down there as a cyclist to, to what I mean, what's in it for you?

Yeah. So you can do some [00:40:00] racing. Go look at all the, there's probably good food and good. Yeah, yeah. Just a good vibe, I guess. Yeah, true. And it's doable, right? It's one of those bucket list items that for a lot of us in this, on this side of the country, it's not that far away. Yeah. Um, not too expensive to get to.

Matt: Yeah. I just see all these people that are like flying from Europe over to this thing and doing stuff, and I'm like, oh, this is kind of in our backyard. Like we, we really should probably, what is that, like a 12 hour 

Lance (2): drive from 

Matt: here, 

Jake: Monterey? I think it was 11, 10 or 11, wasn't it? Yeah. I 

Matt: would've thought more.

Lance (2): Yeah. It's not that far. Okay. That's like a Tuesday during the summer for me. This is true. You've ridden there before. Yeah, I have. I've ridden, I've ridden big Soar quite a bit in the area, just in the area Sea, but I've never, I've never actually been to Sea Otter again because it conflicts with local races.

But after my performance this last week, maybe next year, I'll go to Sea Otter. There you go. 

Jake: I just a quick tangent. We kind of talked about this right before the podcast. With [00:41:00] respect to Sea Otter, is there anything that was released there or that, that was spotted there that, that kind of caught your attention?

Matt: The one thing that I mentioned was, and I don't even know the name of the company, TRP, like, um. They do, it's kind of like a, they do components and they have what they kind of called, I wanna say they called it like a 15 speed component set, which isn't like 15 isn't, it is not like they're 15 gears, but it's a one speed in the front and they have a classified hub in the back so that that kind of switches over.

Um, and it gives you a pretty massive range of gears. Interesting. With, without a front trailer. Mm-hmm. So, um, those classified hubs, I've never tried one, but it's definitely something that I've always wanted to kinda like review and test because they're super interesting. Um, I, there's so many things to worry about, right?

Like, how do you, what's the maintenance like on this thing? Mm-hmm. What's the weight on it? Like, there's a lot of things to think about with that particular hub, but I do think that that classified hub, this is the first time that this is being sold along a [00:42:00] component set. Okay. So, and I think that was a gravel bike that they showed.

They also have like a road bike version, so, 

Lance (2): yeah. Yeah. What about you guys? Anything that you saw there? The contract, you know, there, there was nothing that was like earth shattering. A lot of people released new. Tires. Tires are a hot topic. Um, Maxis came up with a new tire that Keegan Swenson actually raced on.

Actually, what's it called again? Champ? Forgot to talk about Lifetime Grand Prix. Yeah. But, uh, 'cause they did a gravel race this year instead of a mountain bike race. The tires called the Maxis Reaver. And it, and it comes in a max size of 45, which is bucking the trend in, in gravel right now to go with 2.2 mountain bike tires because a lot of the fast guys are riding like, like Maxis Aspen.

Like mountain bike tires in these gravel races. And, uh, they came out with a, a, a tire this rever that has, uh, which is also very fast [00:43:00] rolling, very fast rolling resistance, but still has a bit of a side knob so that you can do it. And, and Keegan Swensen isn't gonna ride something that isn't gonna make him fast.

And he raced on it and he won the gravel race. It was a 90 mile grab race. He did. I wonder, 

Matt: I, I kind of wonder like, do you need some pretty chunky stuff for that to be a viable option? Like, I wonder how the course was. 

Lance (2): Uh, I don't think it's really that difficult. There was a lot of climbing 90 miles and like 10,000 or 11,000 feet of climbing.

So there was plenty of climbing. There was pavement sections, there was dirt sections. And he was on 40 fives. He was on 40 fives, which, you know, everybody else is on fifties or two point ones or 2.2 mountain bike tires. Yeah, that's it. So, and he's on this 45 and he wins the race now. He is, he is Keegan.

But he also said, look, I'm, you know, um, I, I didn't take it lightly to do these tires and just because the trend [00:44:00] is everybody's going on bigger tires doesn't mean it's necessarily the fastest. Whereas you talk to Dylan Johnson or a lot of these other gravel guys that do a lot of hist or, you know, like research.

Yep. They're all going to 2.1 or 2.25 tires, you know. So I think it's a little bit of controversy there. 

Matt: I I hate the, like I get this on the YouTube channel a lot where it's like, everyone's like, white's better, right? So why like, duh. And it's like, no, you can't just say wider is better. Like wider is better uncomfortable.

Well, okay, if, if this were the case, we'd all be riding fat bikes and we're not. Right? So I think it's like one of those things where wider is great, like I want wider tires because I think they're more comfortable and that's the main reason that I want to be on 'em. And, and there's rolling resistance reasons to do it.

In certain situations, but if there the course has some road sections, then all of a sudden it's like, well, maybe this isn't the best tire choice anyway. Well, the this something, is this something you're gonna pick up Personally? I, 

Lance (2): I probably will to try 'em out because I can't fit the [00:45:00] 2.1 or 2.2 Right.

Mountain bike tires on my gravel bike anyway. 

Matt: Right. 

Lance (2): My bike will only take up to a 50. And so, um, 

Matt: and what do you usually have? Like what's what's on there Right now? 

Lance (2): I have a specialized Pathfinder Pro, which is a very fast rolling tire, and that's a 50. 

Matt: Okay. 

Lance (2): I have that on the rear and I have something else on the front.

Okay. But these tires might be, might be a nice 

Matt: little, might 

Lance (2): be a nice little option. Option for sure. I'm excited 

Jake: for you to try 'em. Yeah. So, just real quick, I mean, Keegan is sponsored by Maxis, correct? Yes. Do you think that maybe it's just by chance the best tire they had available for him no given, or they purpose building tires for him based on his input?

And that's, I, 

Lance (2): I don't think it's that either. I think, um, I think everybody else is on Maxis, aspens, Uhhuh. They're all Ra not all, but that's a lot of, one of the very popular gravel race tires, even though it's a mountain bike tire. And so he could, Keegan has raced the Maxis Aspens all [00:46:00] last year. Yeah, he had 'em on his bike, but this year he's going smaller to the 45 to this new Reaver.

Mm-hmm. And he still won. So, 

Jake: oh, he is Keegan Swen. I mean he's, Keegan Swen put him on some, uh, GP five thousands out there, some 20 eights and he probably win there too. So 

Lance (2): I don't, I dunno if you saw the end of the, uh, the gravel race. But he, but he was trying to, to drop Matt beers at, in the last like five or six miles and he had just beat him by like 10 or 12 seconds and he emptied himself so much that he crossed the finish line and puked his guts out.

Oh, that's lovely. He puked as he crossed the finish line. He was trying to post up, he like, he took his hands off the bars and put his arms in the air to, to post up while he crossed the finish line and he had to go right back down. 'cause he puked everything up. Right. And then just glance 

Jake: on the side going, you're my boy blue.

You're my boy. That's my boy. 

Lance (2): That was pretty funny. And then he had to roll to the side and he puked like three more times while all the [00:47:00] photographers are taking pictures of, but anyway, interesting. It made me feel better about myself for some reason. 

Jake: All right. More bucket list stuff. Ian, what do you got?

Anything. Um, yes. 

Lance (2): Sorry, I spicy on the spot. It's like freaking Lance is talking about, I'm in a good position 

Ian: right now because I've got, I, you know, I've been cycling for many years, many decades and, and I've been through times where a a lot of people I know are going through right now where you've got a young family and you've got a job and you, you just can't get out and do these things.

Yes, there's a lot of stuff right here in the States, but, um, there's so much in, in the broader, um. In the, in the broader way for, for a cyclist to do, I'm thinking of the Alps. Mm-hmm. Going to Europe, you know. Um, 

Matt: and I don't think any of us have ridden the Alps, any of the four of us. I have Ian has, you have?

Of course. Okay. 

Ian: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, so that, that's, that's where my heart lies kind of thing is, is to get out and do some of these really, uh, iconic [00:48:00] stuff over in the European Alps. And, um, you know, we're just lucky to, we're in this sport, which is so huge and it's got so much history. And so these, these bucket list, um, items, you know, they're, they're everywhere.

They're there for the picking, you know, there's a lot to choose from. So yeah. The, the European climbs, um, I've, I've been over to Italy. I've done the Stelvia Passa, which is something I could recommend for anybody to do if you, if you can get over there. It's so incredible. Mm-hmm. Um, G Pass, uh. All of that stuff.

So my bucket list I am still to do is to get back over there and do the galibier, and do the toay and do the von two and do the abdu. 

Jake: So for Vontu, can you just go over there and ride that or do you need a permit or No? Is it open or there cars on there? It's just open 

Ian: road. There's cars on there. Yeah.

Okay. Now, one of the, [00:49:00] some of the things they do did like, like the stelvio, um, and I wanna say there's a couple of those climbs where they do close it off to traffic at certain times of the year. Like I was over there two years ago and we did what they call the Stelvio day. Mm-hmm. And it was closed to traffic for the whole, for the whole morning.

And so you had, it was you and about three or 4,000 other cyclists. Oh, that's awesome. All going up. This, uh, amazing iconic climb and totally open to traffic. The other thing I did last year, uh, was um, a ride in the Italian Dolomites called a Zar Rde. And again, they closed the road to traffic and you go over these four alpine passes and you can just, the best, the best fun is coming down the other side because you can totally take the racing line and Yep.

Just rail it down these alpine passes without the fear of Sure. Meeting a car [00:50:00] coming up on the other side. So yeah, it's, it's good. There's, there's a lot more to do over there. Um, I am going back to Majorca in a couple of weeks time, so it's incredible riding over there a lot. Where do I start? 

Jake: Yeah, so. Let me ask Lance the same question, but it's almost like asking or trying to figure out what to get somebody who has everything.

He's like, where do you wanna ride? Asking somebody who's probably ridden just about everywhere. Is there something that's still on your bucket list that you have not done yet? 

Lance (2): Um, I, I've never ridden the French Alps or the Italian Alps. Okay. I've never, I haven't ridden that much in Europe at all. And so, um, man, I would like to go ride some of those Alps.

Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to do that. I haven't done that yet. Uh, Ian and I have been to 10 Arif, which was a bucket list, uh, place I want to go and that's been fantastic. It was totally worth it. Ian's gonna mayorca here in a couple weeks. I'm trying to wrangle my schedule so I can join him. I haven't been [00:51:00] able to, uh, pin that down quite yet.

Yep. But, um, even in the US I've been lucky enough to do some of these really big races. I've done unbound a couple times. I've done Steamboat, I've done Rebecca's Private Idaho, I've done some of these, you know, big races. And there's a few others I would like to do. Like Iceman Cometh in, you know, in Michigan or Berry Rue, that's also a huge Barry Rue.

What is that? It's called, it's in, it's in Michigan, it's like 6,000 racers. It's already happened. Wow. Yeah. It's like springtime in, in, you know, these, these big gravel races. Some of those are very cool, but, um, I think that I would love to be able to explore more of Europe. 

Jake: That, that's a no brainer. I mean, for me, I'll, I'll, I'll throw some things out there.

This is all kind of. Probably low hanging fruit. But I mean, these are just the things that as a cyclist, when you watch these things on TV or you see the people going up these climbs, you want to go do that. So like the Swiss [00:52:00] Alps, of course, uh, Tuscany, Mayorca, uh, Tenerif, like you guys have just been, I want to do those so bad.

And I think at some point in time I'll get over there, but there's still a lot here in the United States that I would love to go do, whether it be for a ride, a race, or just a, a cycling event. I mean, Lance has been to Bentonville. How freaking awesome is that? Incredible? Yeah. So I need to go do that. And I've been to like Sedona and, and that is amazingly beautiful.

And I remember talking to one of our teammates, Chris Hole, and he lived there for a while and he's telling me like, he was just like, he, he like literally was glowing when he was talking about his, the mal biking is phenomenal in Sedona there. So I want to go do that kind of stuff. So there's just so many things and my big problem is I just don't have any fricking time.

So, um, my bucket list is to find time to go do all of these things. So. 

Ian: Yeah. I mean, you're not alone. That's, that's the point I was making that you can do these things perhaps when you are young, but 

Outro: yeah. 

Ian: So many people are, are struggling with the same, same kind of stuff. Sure. Maybe not quite as busy as you, but Yeah.

You know, with [00:53:00] family commitments, uh, financial restrictions, all of this stuff. If, but there are options Yeah. Here in the states, like you were saying. 

Jake: Yeah. Aside from like the, the cycling stuff, I do have a few bucket list things that don't require me sitting on a bike. I really want to go watch a stage of the Tour de France.

Yes. And more importantly, I want to go and I want to take my camera and I want to get some sweet action shots or get some cool video of these guys doing their thing. And what would be cool is to be able to find it. Or do something where the stages aren't, like traveling stages between so that you can maybe do a couple days and not have to like, oh crap, we can't make it from this place to that place.

And just be able to kind of take in the area, see this stuff and, and go be a part of that, you know, whole experience. I think that'd be fantastic. And equally fun would be to like any of the big classics. I'd love to go watch some of those and just get there super, super early and go get staged up and have great seats to watch some cool stuff.

And again, take some great pictures. There is, 

Ian: I mean, there's ways of doing that as well where it makes it simpler. Uh, a client of mine last year went out and, uh, [00:54:00] did, looked, did a whole tour with a, uh, by the tour of funders. Yeah. Where, where everything was, um, put on, they did some. Training rides. They had the, the hotel, the transportation, the food, everything was included.

Yeah. And they got to pre-write the, the, uh, to Flanders 

Jake: course. That is incredible. And that's actually one of the things I was thinking about as well, is like, if I was to go do something like the, the Swiss Alps, I mean, that'd be great, but they've got some of these, and Lance did something similar down in Tucson where you go in there, there's, what would you call that?

Like, uh, the cycling house. What would this, it's like an adventure. It's cycling, tourism, a touring company or something like that, where basically they take care of everything. They've got your bike set up, they take care of the food, the transportation, like, like an all-inclusive kind of a deal. To be able to go do something like that, to have, um, somebody that can kind of, you know, chaperone you around and show you all the things and maybe ride at the pace that you wanna ride at, as opposed to being stuck at a, a pace of whoever, like either somebody way too fast or somebody way too slow.

That would be amazing. 

Lance (2): Yeah. They just [00:55:00] sent a different guy with me. Yeah. When they realized on like day one. Oh. He's gonna ride faster than everybody. He's gonna ride faster than everybody else. Then they just sent a different guy with me. Yeah. And, and that guy was probably stoked for that too. He was.

He's like, oh man, I can finally, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. 

Jake: Um, I've got one other thing, but I'll let you guys throw some other things at the, the bucket 

Lance (2): list of items. Strade, Bianca, uh, has a draw on me for some reason because I want to do the fondo that's in, in like the day before. Yeah. Because to go to Italy or Tuscany and ride those white gravel roads on like a, like a fast bike just sounds freaking amazing.

So I'd like it to be in July instead of March or whatever it is. But regardless, um, Strat Bianca is, sounds 

Ian: interesting. I'll come do that with you. Sounds good. 

Jake: You keep doing all of these things 'cause one, one day I will have some free time and I'm gonna nail you down to take me to all these places and you can be my chaperone.

You can show me around so that I don't have to go [00:56:00] figure out a lot of this crap on my own. Gotcha. Uh, any, Ian, you got anything else? Matt? You got anything else? 

Ian: Um, I, again, over here in the States, there's, there's some big, big events. I mean, cycling's a huge deal in this country, right? Sure. So, uh, Lance and I recently went to two races down in the southwest in, uh, in Phoenix, and in Tucson, both of which were huge events and just being a part of that sort of size of event Yeah.

Um, is pretty exhilarating to, to be there with a thousand other cyclists. All with that same purpose. That same, yeah. All just excited to be there as you were. Yeah. All as excited, you know, and just to, just to see everybody down there and be part of that. It is totally cool. Like that, um, race in the Phoenix area, the Valley of the Sun.

Yeah. Um, it was easy to get to. It wasn't super expensive. I think the entropy was like 160, $180 or so. Three days of racing. It was you and a thousand other people. Mm-hmm. You know, and, and [00:57:00] racing. My peers, people of my age group, IE super old guys, but 50 or 60 of them in a field. Yeah. You know, so, you know, you could rediscover how, how it is to be in a very competitive field again.

Sure. Even as an older cyclist. So that was cool. Uh, Tucson Bicycle Classic was great experience. So much going on in Tucson area, right. Tucson Shootout. 

Lance (2): Mm-hmm. She, she 

Ian: could go and do that sometimes. 

Lance (2): There's also, there's a hundred mile race, the El tour de Tucson that happens in September in Tucson. Yeah.

And, and that's a race with 6,000 people in it. 

Jake: So aside from the fact that they've got good weather, with the exception of summer just being hot as hell, what is it about Tucson? Is it just, that's because we're. A lot of cyclists go there in the wintertime. And, and that's because it's a great place to ride.

And that plus the cycling 

Lance (2): infrastructure that's there. 

Jake: Okay. So where did that come from though? Why did, why, why did that city decide We're gonna lean into the cycling [00:58:00] infrastructure stuff and we're gonna make it freaking awesome? Why can't we get that more? We gotta, you got a big 

Matt: university there. Yeah, that is true.

So, and I think that when you have a big university, you're thinking like. Cycle. These kids need to bike around to their classes. But that, so they need to have cycling infrastructure. That's, 

Jake: you know, U of A is like, it's a, it's a big campus. Yeah. But the kids aren't, like, Tucson's a pretty big place and that cycling infrastructure 

Matt: is all over.

And 

Lance (2): then you've got these like, dried out, like river side. So what happened is, there's actually a story behind this. Okay. Because, um, there's, there's a wash that goes through downtown, you know, right through, I saw 

Jake: this on one of Lance videos. Yeah. 

Lance (2): So there's a wash and, and subscribe. I can subscribe. So when they were building the walls to keep the wash at bay, they decided to put cycling lanes next to the, the walls and access instead of just like fencing off the whole like.

Like the LA River in la, right? Yeah. It's all just like gated off and fenced off and all cement. Well, when they tried to fence off this [00:59:00] wash through Tucson, they decided to make either side bike lanes because they had access to it, and they had, I don't know who funded it, but ended up funding the thing.

And so that's why there's, there's 130 miles of, of cycling lanes specifically for bikes and equestrians and walkers. Yeah. But it's, it, it, it was built there for that purpose. So I. Having done that, it just expanded. So do you think that was 

Jake: just a lucky decision and maybe somebody rides a bike, hey, maybe instead of just like, you know, chain linking it off, what if we made it into a bike path or a trailer or some sort of multi-use thing?

Like That's a good question. Smart decision by city planners. Yeah. You know, because plenty of other municipalities, well, you know, just look right past that and say like, what, how can we secure this and how can we keep everybody out? And how can you know? 

Lance (2): I dunno, I think the weather was the draw for January, February, March for those, you know, people that go there to ride and then realizing that they could actually lean into that probably caused them to want to put more [01:00:00] infrastructure in.

Just thinking about the, the 

Jake: tourism that comes in there specifically to ride bikes. I mean, that's gotta be a big grab for them. It's gotta be a big grab. 

Matt: It's interesting because they, they probably miss out on a lot of the like, snowbird people that are coming to, you know, Scottsdale or Phoenix or wherever because it's, you know, there it's warm or whatever.

I'm guessing they get a little bit. Less of that because tucson's at altitude, a little bit of altitude, at least they're not like super high. It's is 2,500 feet. But, but I mean, if you're gonna, if you're old and you're going somewhere for to be somewhere warm, you're not going to Tucson as much as you're probably going to Phoenix.

Not as much 

Lance (2): that, that's changing, you think? Yes, because the cheapest spot in Arizona to go is like Yuma, which is on the border. Okay. Right on the border of Mexico. Yes, I've been there. Yeah. And it's, it's been a while. It's not nice. No, no. I mean, you go there for the sun. That's it. Yeah. It doesn't have like, the infrastructure that, that Tucson has.

And Tucson is only like a third the size of Phoenix. Yeah. Phoenix is way, way bigger. Oh, I would've 

Matt: even thought Tucson would be even smaller than that. 

Lance (2): [01:01:00] But yeah, it's, it might be, but still, but that, that 

Ian: sort of phenomena, self perpetuates. So in a way that, that you, you start off with a bunch of people going down there.

'cause it's a cool place to train. There's Mount Lemon there, the infrastructure's good. Mm-hmm. And then people hear that that scene is getting bigger and bigger and I wanna be a part of it. You know, there's. Five or 6,000 cyclists living and training in Tucson. You wanna be part of that 

Jake: thing as well?

Yeah. Well, let's see here. Portland, we're Portland adjacent, we're pretty damn close. Um, is has always been known as a cycling friendly city would a lot, I would say we 

Matt: used to be known, 

Jake: but I would, I would say that if you look at like the last like 20 years, Tucson is, is slowly climbing. Yeah. It's getting even more cycling friendly.

Whereas Portland, it's kind of going down in that, you know, a lot of the, the bike paths and places that you have to ride are either being overtaken for a myriad of reasons. There's the, the number of cars here has greatly increased and it's just not quite as easy to get around. At least in the last 10 years since I've been here.

[01:02:00] It's changed a fair amount. Would you say that Portland is still a, a, a destination for people to go and ride? I mean, I think in the, the spring, summer and fall months, it's absolutely stunning here. I mean, I can't think of a better place to ride in the Pacific Northwest than around here. If you start thinking about all the different rides that we have here, do you really 

Matt: want to go ride like through Portland?

I do. Not anymore. I just, I don't. No, but its not like 

Lance (2): it used to be July, August, September, you cannot beat. The northwest for, for cycling. Correct. It. The weather is perfect. It's not too hot. And you have climbs everywhere and they're still green. Yeah. Yeah. So, well, 

Jake: you know, the, the West Hills, those are fun to ride in.

Gorgeous. But there's so many cars back there now, you know, and even here, we're on the other side in, in Washington and the, you know, Vancouver and greater Vancouver area. There's tons and tons of beautiful riding, but the cars, there's just so many cars now. It just feels like it just continues to grow.

Yeah. The, the sprawl continues to 

Matt: sprawl and, and the infrastructure for cycling is not like getting picked up or stepped up at all? No. Well, you say 

Ian: that, but have, [01:03:00] you've been out to the Columbia River Gorge recently? They've. They're still working on linking. Yes. Portland up. I really wanna do that with 

Lance (2): Hood River.

Hood River. Yeah. 

Ian: And that project is massive. Yeah. Massive. 

Lance (2): Yeah. Huge 

Matt: inter drinking. I 

Lance (2): would love to do that ride. I haven't done that ride yet, which is crazy 'cause there's only like a three mile section of Road of Path that is not completed and it's under construction. Okay. That's exciting. I 

Ian: don't think Portland has ever really been a destination for cyclists.

The infrastructure has been relatively good for the locals and there's been a, there's traditionally been a big scene here. A lot of people cycle despite the weather. Um, certainly the, the racing scene is, is pretty big, I think for an American city. Yeah, 

Outro: sure. 

Ian: But. I don't think it's ever gonna turn into a destination like, uh, like Tucson.

Like Tucson or Boulder. Feel like they had op Bolder Yeah. 

Jake: Opportunities and opport said opportunities were missed. I feel like yes, they've turned their attention to other [01:04:00] things and like cycling, like, oh yeah, we were known as a great cycling community, but you know, that that is fading and like the decisions that they're making don't necessarily align with that so much anymore.

I'm not saying that it's not a good cycling spot, 

Matt: but 

Jake: I don't think that there's, I think when I 

Matt: moved here, it was the number one top. It was like, if you looked at the list of top friendly cycling cities Yeah. It was like the number one city. Yeah. And it's probably not on the list anymore. Yeah. It's, 

Jake: I would just love for the people that you know, that run the different municipalities to be a little bit more mindful of that, knowing that there's, there's so much that you can get out of a good cycling community.

Ian: Yeah. We need strong advocation for this. You know, we need people Yes. To lobby that, that's how these things get Sure. Get accomplished in the end, like Poland. Since they got rid of, uh, ALP and R Velodrome. I'm, I'm like, you, you should build a velodrome in Portland. That'd be great. Yeah. Um, there was a big push a couple of years ago to try and get the, uh, world championship road races here.

Yep. Um, that kind of faded away, I [01:05:00] feel like. So, yep. I don't think there's a strong enough advocate, uh, group at the moment that's, that's actively lobbying anybody, which is kinda what 

Matt: obra should, this should be part of. I don't know what their rules are, like their, what are, what, what does the bylaws say?

But it seems like that would be an important role for them to play. Mm-hmm. I don't know if that's what Well, 

Ian: I, I've, I've thought that it would good for OBRA to have a advocacy arm, you know, uh, people lobbying the local governments and stuff to improve cycling here, but that's a, that's a big expansion of their, um, roles charter and it, it would take some resources and some money to make that happen.

Jake: Yeah. That was a little tangent, but total tangent. Total tangent. That was a tangent. That has nothing 

Matt: to 

Jake: do with what, 

Matt: Matt, you got any last, uh, bucket list things that you wanna throw here? Sure. There's lots of 'em. Um, I traveled to France and ran alongside of the tour like 20 something years ago. Sure. 25 years, a long time ago.

I'm an old man, but I would love to go back, ride the [01:06:00] same route, uh, in morphine and spend like, I think we ended up spending quite a few days there, but we were just like, poor backpacking, like dirty hippie, you know, whatever. But like now I, you just explained my last three months. Yes. But I'd love to go back there and be able to be like, oh, we can afford to actually stay.

Yeah. Now you're at a hotel at the brand. Exactly right. Um, and, and bring a bike and, and do some riding. 'cause that's French Alps, so that would be fun. Gotta go. Reenact your running though. Yeah, of course that will definitely do that. Fantastic. No doubt about that. Did you run like shirtless? No shirt with a, a American flag painted on my back.

Okay. Yeah, that's great. 

Ian: Speedo? 

Matt: Uh, no running shorts, but they were short shorts. If that makes you feel better. 

Jake: Dolphin short. I 

Matt: didn't wear anything except for short shorts. 'cause those were the. Those were the, uh, that was the thing. Those were the sixties in the 1960s back then, so that's what we wore back then.

Jake: All right. Here's my, my last thing for, uh, the bucket list. And again, [01:07:00] this isn't gonna be like a ride or a destination or anything like that. Have you guys ever watched that TV show, like how things are made or how it's made? I think it's called, like I, I'm always fascinated by that and it's just kind of neat to see how things come together.

I would love to go to one in particular brand I would love to go to, but any brand just about to go see their entire process. Like how, how it works, like from, you know, like engineering design and concept to like implementation and, and watch the actual process of it being built and just see the whole business inner working.

So the one company that I would love to go to and what's nice because they have a, a ton of different things that they carry would be swam. I think that it'd be so fun to go watch and, and see how they make their group sets, how they go through the engineering and design process. And you also get to check out rock shocks and zip and all of the other things.

I'd love to see just how that works. I'm just. Deeply fascinated by it. And I'd love to see that in person. And I think that'd be super cool. 

Matt: I'd like to see like, I feel like there's something beautiful about wheels. Yeah. Wheels being made. So something like envy, wheels being put together. Something cool.

Exactly. 

Jake: They're so [01:08:00] like precise and they're so like perfect. I'm like, how do you keep the tolerances so close to like zero and make such a great, fantastic product that we really need to see how that all comes together. So, I dunno, that's just so, sounds like a good YouTube video. Nerdy, dorky brain. Cool.

Do you guys have anything else on that front? Any anymore bucket list? Crap. That's it. Crap. Full of bucket. Nope. Bucket. Full of crap. 

Lance (2): Alright. This is many good events. It's hard to, yeah. Nail it all down. But yeah. 

Matt: Podcast next year. Podcasts coming from Sea Otter. There you go. Be on the lookout. All right, let's do one last thing.

Subscribe, like, and subscribe. One last thing, Matt, you want to go? Uh, I posted a video about Apple Watchbands. I finally got this video out. Yeah, that, that was great. Of course it didn't do as well as I'd hoped it would do, but it's doing okay and uh, you guys all need to go check it out. It's about, I think it's called your Apple Watch Band's Not Gonna Kill You probably is the name of the title because the, your watch band has these PFAS chemicals in there.

And how worried should we really be about [01:09:00] that? Spoiler for the video. You shouldn't be that worried about it because you know, the, you're not really like, just 'cause it's on your wrist, you know, very small percentage of that watchband is gonna be, you know, um, dissolved and absorbed by your skin. Uhhuh. So I, in the video, I, I try to run some math and be like, okay, let's go crazy and be like, you're, you dissolve the entire watch band in a year and your skin absorbs half of that.

You know, we'd like run the numbers with like the, 'cause there's, this is all based on Apple being sued. Um. By a little group of people that are worried about PFAS. And there was this study from Notre Dame where they were like, Hey, yeah, these watches have PFAS in them. These watch bands. And so they, apple skiing sued about it and it's like, well, how worried she really be?

And the answer is like, you'd be hard to absorb that much PFAS into your blood from your watchband. But anyway, interesting. It's a fun video. You should check it out. Uh, next video is gonna be about a smart [01:10:00] ring called the Luna Smart Ring. I am not as excited about that video, so. There you go. What watches are you wearing today?

Uh, today I am wearing the Apple Watch series 10. Mm-hmm. And this is a new one that I'm reviewing called the One Plus Watch. It's the one plus three. 

Jake: I was watching you kind of fidget around with that, play around with that. It looks kinda, it's 

Matt: um, it's pretty cool. It's, uh, I haven't really done a lot of Android wear watches.

This is like the Android Wear Os. And uh, this one does pretty well. It's got pretty good battery life comparatively to a lot of these watches that get like one or two days. This one gets like four, four or five days and it's pretty nice so far. Um, and I'm testing it and I'm seeing some slight questionable heart rate data.

I need to look into that. And then I didn't love it as a swim watch, but this is not a swim podcast, so tune in for, tune in for that video on. It'll probably be out on YouTube in about three weeks. That's my guess, when I'll eventually get to it. Gotcha. 

Jake: Cool. Yeah, that was a great video. I [01:11:00] enjoyed watching that.

And, um. Dude, you edited the crap out of that. That thing was so beautiful. 

Matt: Yeah. Except for you spend so much time on these things and you're like, uh, no one's watching 

Jake: it. Did it make you happy? Were you, were you happy with it? Parts of it. I think there's parts 

Matt: of it where I like really enjoy like making some sort of chart or something like that.

Sure. And after effects and spending time in after effects. And I enjoy that. So some of it's really good. 

Jake: And you replied to me too. That was, that was nice of you. 

Matt: I didn't even remember what you said. 

Jake: It's, uh, do you know what my handle is on that? No, exactly. I've got some anonymity here. You guys have no idea who I am, so 

Matt: hopefully I was nice, but I probably wasn't.

Yeah, you're 

Jake: always nice. Um, yeah. Cool. If you haven't watched that, go watch it. And Matt's getting really stinking close to 40 K. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Probably in the next couple hundred. I'm, I'm gonna guess. Two or three weeks. Okay. Or people are gonna listen to this and they're gonna go s 

Matt: jump, jump on and then it'll be right there.

40 

Ian: K. 40 k, 40 k sub subscribers. Yeah. You glance 

Jake: is equally close to a thousand. Just about ready to get monetized. Six 

Lance (2): 70. I'm not that close. Yeah, that's good. Just one 

Matt: little banger video. It's [01:12:00] over a hundred since the last time we chatted, I think. Yeah, that's, that's good. That's good growth. Gibo. One last thing, Bob.

Ian: Uh, my one last thing is I'm super stoked to be back at PIR. It's where all racing bicycles started for me, uh, eight, nine years ago. It seems to be the beating heart of, uh, Poland. Vancouver bicycle racing. Mm-hmm. At least on the roadside. I just wanna encourage more people to come out. It's so much fun. Um, we had some.

A load of teammates out there, but outside of that, you get to socialize with people from other teams and people you've seen out on the road. And, and it's just, it's just good. I, I spend all, all my time before the race and afterwards talking to all these different people. Great. Chance to catch up. Um, I wanna give a big shout out to Jin d Coco for winning his race.

Oh boy, J awesome. 

Intro: Nice work 

Ian: there. It was a massive field when the open and the 50 plus [01:13:00] guys were combined. I think, uh, Lance's race, the four fives, the combined field was probably 60 or 70. Yep. Uh, my guys, the one, two threes, fifties plus open combined was probably 60 or 70 riders. Um, it was huge. So getting yourself to the front and, and.

Winning that race is, is no mean feat. 

Jake: Yeah. And everybody kept their overside down. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It was close. It was close. Uh, 

Ian: in the final sprint, I felt and heard that horrible sound of another guy's wheel on mine. Oh yeah. And I, and I kept going and I was convinced there must have been a big pilot behind me, but there wasn't.

Matt: Oh. Saved it. Good. That's what you gotta do. Just keep going. Yeah. Do not look back. So 

Ian: Jim did great. Uh, Tim Doman did great. He got six in his field. Uh, he's out there. He spent all of last year injured, recovering from injury. Yeah. Um, he's back in form. He's got a brand new bike. He's looking [01:14:00] good. And so many, uh, of our dial people had a great competitive race out there and.

Big thanks to Jake Von doing for supplying us with, uh, another season pass. I think we get fif 50 free race entries, right? 

Jake: Yeah. That's, that's where we're gonna start. Yeah. Um, yeah, we'll probably end up being able to do a few more, um, if need be. Perfect. Yeah. They did raise the prices this year and, and it's of no fault of their own.

'cause costs are going up and, uh, I think he mentioned something about they didn't have some of their sponsors back, but we wanna support the sponsors. We wanna support the team. So, yeah, 

Ian: I think PIR the venue itself has raised their prices significantly. Mm-hmm. So it is much harder for those guys to turn a profit on that.

But Dad love those public 

Jake: parks. Yeah. Putting it to us. Yep. Yeah. But 

Ian: when the, when the weather's good, like it was on sun, uh, on Monday you have this incredible turnout. Um, it's not, the races were like six started at 6 30, 6 45. Mm-hmm. [01:15:00] We only race an hour. Minutes. Yeah, minutes. A lot of people can, can get out there, uh, after work.

Um, and it's close by, so Sure. Love to see you. Cool. 

Lance (2): Yep. Blur. You wanna see footage of the PIR race? I did a YouTube video on it. If you wanna see footage of not 

Ian: interested. I wasn't in it. 

Lance (2): No, you were not in it. Sorry. Uh, but Jake made it into one of my videos. I did a video of the, uh, lab lunch ride yesterday.

I saw that one. Yeah. So, uh, Jake made it in that. And I did make, I did a couple videos of the mountain bike races that I did this weekend too. If you want to check those out. And, uh, see me get smoked by a bunch of faster older guys. Go ahead and check it out. Yeah, 

Jake: like I've said, you're getting good at those and, uh, as long as you are still having fun making 'em and it's not too much of a hassle, keep you at it, man.

I love it. I'm trying. Yeah. You still having fun with it though? 

Lance (2): I do. I do enjoy doing it. Yeah. You're probably getting a lot of people coming up to you and saying stuff about it too. Uh, every race I've been to somebody, there's been five or six people that have said, Hey, I watched your video last night.

Yeah. So that's kind of cool. Yeah. 

Ian: Good job. I watched it last night. Um, [01:16:00] kind of gave me a touch of PTSD looking at so much at. Jake's but riding the memories of trying to hang on desperately to when Jake lays the power down. So I gotta get back onto that. So come out do the flogging rights tonight. So two zone two ride with Jake.

I come 

Jake: out and do the flogging rights tonight and I'm sure I'll be the one that's gonna be suffering, trying to hold onto your wheel. So we'll see. Cool. Maybe. Anything else? That's it. Cool. Uh, my one last thing is I'm getting really excited 'cause uh, all the wheels are in motion for us moving into our new space.

And I'm just, we're, we're very, very close to being able to actually start the tenant improvements and I'm hoping that those can get done and taken care of as quickly as possible so that we can be in there for the. At the start of a another crazy busy summer. So good times should be there. And then, um, my real, one last thing is though the, the weekly rides have started back up.

Um, love to see as many people come out as possible. We've got the Tuesday night gravel ride. Those are always a blast in, in good times. We've got the Wednesday lab lunch ride, we've got the Thursday flogging rides. I think we're on week number three [01:17:00] of that already. Um, a lot of people have asked. And it's Friday fog, the fog hat.

Friday rides generally start the Friday of Memorial Weekend. Okay. However, I have been asked so many freaking times about that particular ride 'cause people just absolutely love that ride. And it's, and the weather's nice. It's like so nice to be exactly. Chill out on a bike, basically. So we're gonna actually start those in May.

And it will happen at the beginning of May on Fridays, so long as the weather is cooperative. So if it's good weather, we'll be starting those back up. And then we've had a lot of teammates that have been awesome about posting different rides for the weekends, which has been cool. So crowd cycling on Strava, you'll get to see a lot of different rides popping up right now and super soaked on that.

And uh, yeah, good times. Fantastic. Cool. Alright. We will be back next week with another one of these in. Until then, bye for [01:18:00] now.