Rebel Clinicians Podcast
The Rebel Clinicians Podcast is your home for daring conversations and innovative insights designed to transform the world of mental health and holistic healing. Hosted by seasoned therapists and healers who refuse to be confined by the traditional therapy model, each episode explores the intersection of spirituality, ancient wisdom, and modern therapy. Whether you’re a therapist, social worker, energy healer, or simply someone seeking deeper healing and personal growth, we’re here to inspire, challenge, and guide you on your path.
In each episode, we dive into powerful topics like integrating psychedelics and indigenous wisdom, breaking free from the constraints of “the couch,” financial freedom, and building an authentic practice that reflects your unique magic. We’ll share stories of clinicians who are thriving by being true to themselves, and we’ll reveal practical tools for expanding your practice beyond boundaries while nurturing your soul. From financial strategies and marketing tips to shamanic practices and spiritual journeys, this podcast brings together everything you need to become an empowered and revolutionary healer.
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Rebel Clinicians Podcast
S2E15: “Delegate, Automate, Eliminate: A Rebel Clinician's Guide to Diversifying Your Income”
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S2E15: “Delegate, Automate, Eliminate: A Rebel Clinician's Guide to Diversifying Your Income”
Hosts: Alex Runolfson & John Cottrell
In this episode of The Rebel Clinicians Podcast, Alex and John start with a hilariously un-soothing chat about ASMR--whispers, nail tapping, "gutter water," and all. What begins as playful banter about oddly specific sensory triggers becomes the doorway into a much bigger conversation: how clinicians can diversify their income without abandoning who they are or what they care about.
Alex names the growing trend of therapists feeling stuck, underpaid, or burned out in the therapy chair and wondering, "What else can I do?" John steps in as the quintessential multi-hyphenate clinician: therapist, yoga teacher, baker, retreat leader, Thai massage practitioner, podcaster, clothing designer, and new short-term rental host in Heber, Utah. Together, they unpack how all of John's ventures are rooted in one core value--being of service--while Alex shares how his compass is curiosity. Instead of waiting for some massive bolt of passion to strike, they invite listeners to follow the breadcrumbs of joy, service, curiosity, and adventure to discover new paths and income streams.
From there, the conversation gets practical. John shares how he uses lists--creative lists, idea lists, and to-do lists--to get thoughts out of his head and back into focus, and how meditation mirrors the process of gently returning to the task at hand. Alex offers a powerful framework for taming overwhelm: decide what only you can do, what you can delegate, what you can automate, and what you can completely eliminate. Together, they explore how values like hospitality can move beyond the therapy room into retreats, baking, short-term rentals, and other offerings that still honor the heart of healing work.
Underneath it all is a compassionate reminder that rest and "just for fun" projects are not luxuries; they're essential for preventing burnout. Not every idea has to become a business, not every project has to be finished, and not every free minute has to be "productive." This episode is an invitation to all you lovely little rebels to reclaim your creativity, honor your values, and let your work expand in ways that feel joyful and sustainable.
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