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🎙️ The Bold and Brilliant Podcast with Tracie Root
Finding Your True North with Life Coach Jana Lane

✨ Episode Description

Have you ever felt like you were going through the motions, living a life that looked great on paper but left you wanting something more?

In this inspiring and heartfelt episode, Tracie sits down with *Jana Lane*, the vibrant and wise “True North Life Coach,” who shares her bold journey from decades in retail and mortgage to a life of purpose as a transformational coach. 

After moving 27 times in 32 years, finding love and settling down, Jana hit a moment of clarity that changed everything. You’ll hear how one bold decision—hiring a life coach—set her on a path of personal transformation and sparked the creation of a new, deeply aligned business helping others find their own *true north*.

Tune in for a conversation filled with honesty, resilience, woo-to-wow mindset shifts, and the power of saying *yes* to personal growth—at any stage in life.

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 đŸ‘¤ Meet Jana Lane

Jana Lane is a certified DreamBuilder Coach and the founder of **Your True North Life Coaching**, where she helps people reconnect with their inner compass and create a life they truly love. With decades of experience in retail and mortgage lending, she brings real-world understanding, practical structure, and heartfelt compassion to her coaching. Whether through one-on-one sessions, group coaching, or workshops, Jana helps her clients declutter their minds, homes, and hearts to make space for joy, clarity, and lasting transformation.

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 đŸ’Ą In This Episode, You'll Learn:

- How Jana’s upbringing in a military family shaped her adaptability and perspective
- The defining moment that led her to say *yes* to coaching—first as a client, then as a coach
- Why organizing someone’s physical space often leads to emotional breakthroughs
- How your past experiences—even the painful ones—can become your superpower
- The transformational power of a simple morning routine (and why it’s now sacred to Jana)
- The difference between woo and *wow*, and why the term “life coach” is evolving
- Jana’s big, bold dream of hosting collaborative retreats in tropical destinations  
- Why there’s *no such thing* as too many coaches

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 đŸ”— Connect with Jana Lane

- **Website** www.theresnospacelikehome.com, www.yourtruenorthlifecoach.com
- **Instagram:** https://www.instagram.com/nospacelikehomeorganizing/#
- **Facebook:**  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064044972886
-**LinkedIn:** www.linkedin.com/in/janalane
- **Email:** jmlane321@gmail.com  

If you’re seeking a dynamic and compassionate speaker, or know a group that would benefit from her wisdom, reach out to Jana directly. She's actively booking speaking engagements and workshops!

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Your host,
Tracie Root

Are you ready to take bold action and live a life of brilliance? Welcome to the Bold and Brilliant Podcast, where women leaders share inspiring stories about daring decisions that shape their businesses. Their lives and their careers. Today, I'm with the fabulous and amazing Jana Lane. She is your true North Life coach because regardless of how your life is right now, with the right knowledge, tools, and skills, along with the proper structure of support, Jana believes you absolutely can break free and find a whole new level of fulfillment. Now. As we talk, you'll hear Jana share her journey of entrepreneurship, including one bold decision that has created her path of what was next. Her story of resilience, risk-taking, and transformation will inspire, encourage, and support your personal and professional growth. Please join me in welcoming Jana to the Bold and brilliant podcast.

Tracie:

I'm so excited. Jana, welcome to the podcast. I'm so glad you're here.

Jana:

Thank you, Tracie. I'm excited to be here too. Yay.

Tracie:

We've had a chance to have a number of conversations in these last few months as our worlds have finally officially intersected. We've been peri on the periphery together for a while, and I'm so glad that you're hanging out with us in the gather community as a creator. And of course, we are in other organizations together where we get to run into each other every now and then. So I'm thrilled that you're here. To talk about, what you do, your story, the things that have, made it made. The things that have made your life become what it's become because it is a pretty darn good life.

Jana:

It is.

Tracie:

So let's talk about it. Tell me, I, we can see on the screen it says, Jana, your True North Life coach, but that's not where you started. No. So tell us a little bit about how you got going as a grownup in the business world, and then we'll talk about what bold decisions you made to get to where you are today. So how about some background?

Jana:

Ooh, background. I am a young woman. I'm a young, 60-year-old woman, and I'm wearing it proudly. Yay. I have decided that my third of my life is going to be my best third. Absolutely. And I've had I've had a, I've had a really good, interesting life. I'll share some personal things. If I might just start. I was adopted when I was nine months old and grew up in a military family. So I had the pleasure of moving a lot as a kid. I was preparing for a presentation at some point in one of my prior careers. And I mapped out the United States and all the places I'd been, and then I was like, oh my gosh. So I started counting all the times I'd moved, and even when I moved out as a young adult, I kept moving. I moved 27 times. Tracie in 32 years. Isn't that nuts?

Tracie:

That is a lot. And it's understandable. Everyone knows that military families move a lot and that military kids go from school to school to school. And learn certain life skills and coping mechanisms. Both as a result of that. But that is. That is a lot.

Jana:

That's a lot. It's interesting because I, when I think of my brother and I who raised by the same parents in the same household, right? Doing the same things, how, two people in the same circumstances can have completely different lives and modalities in the world and ways of living in this world. So that's interesting to reflect on back knowing what I know now, of course, didn't know it then. So that was a fun way to grow up. And my first career was in retail. I did that for about 18 years and worked my way into from sales floor to management. Then I got into the mortgage business. And just had a really fun life. I moved to Pacifica, California for work where I met my hus, my now husband, and we've been together over 30 years, Tracie. So I went from moving 27 times to being in the same house for 30 years.

Tracie:

You must love it there and thank you. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? 27 times in 30 years and now. And that was it. One

Jana:

place. Yeah. And then you're done. Yeah. It's bizarre. So now I just travel instead to fill that, to fill the void.

Tracie:

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. It, it's interesting, I the, your comment about two people raising the same household, I think that's like really common sibling story as well. My younger sister also is. Really wants to stay in the same place. Very not, I wouldn't say set in her ways per se, but we definitely have different attitudes about change. And I am very like, when's your birthday?

Jana:

September 8th. I am eighth. Virgo.

Tracie:

Virgo. Okay. I was gonna say I am a Sagittarius and one of our hallmarks is adventurer. So I very much identify with that. Because I also, I didn't move 27 times. I could count it. It's probably gonna be a dozen, maybe by the time I was 25 ish. That's still a lot. Which is still a lot. I went to five elementary schools. Most of that was elementary school, and then same place for like middle school and high school. And then at that point I was on my own decisions and started moving again. Because my mom was a Capricorn and didn't have. After my parents split, she didn't have that interest or really the means to do any kind of movie. And I think that's just wasn't her way. She had been a stay-at-home mom didn't have a job until my parents split and had to go figure out how to be a working woman as a single parent.

Jana:

Yep.

Tracie:

But I was always like, where can I go? What can I do? Go and

Jana:

yeah. Love it. Sister. I remember we moved, I think twice during my fifth grade year, and I've always blamed that on why I, to this day do not know my multiplication tables.

Tracie:

You hadn't done'em yet in the first place and they had already finished them in second place.

Jana:

Bless my dad's heart. He was trying, and the campers were moving across country trying with those flashcards to teach me math and it just.

Tracie:

Oh, that's so funny. Yeah. Not my husband has similar stories in math. Yeah. My husband has a similar story. Not so much with math'cause he is an engineer, but with other like school things like fifth grade science camp that most kids go through, it's a kind of a rite of passage to go. You probably didn't get it, did you?

Jana:

Nope, I didn't do any summer camps or whatever they were called. All the kids had those little things they made with their camp name on it. Yes. Never had one. Oh.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Jana:

Okay.

Tracie:

Yeah, it's, my husband has a similar story. He had moved somewhere and that school had already left, and when he moved to this other school. Yep. Yeah, same thing.

Jana:

You miss a lot, but you gain a lot. I wouldn't change it for the world. I absolutely love the way I grew up.

Tracie:

I love it. And then, so you talked about being in retail, moving into mortgage, and clearly that's not what you're doing now. True North Life, coach, woman. So tell us, I, I think that we're at the point where we're talking about you were staying, you were living in the same place, married to the same man, and you decided that you wanted to just do something different. Tell us like why and how you got to that point where you decided to make this bold decision that was gonna completely change how you spend your days.

Jana:

It's such a fun question to reflect on. I think there was a defining moment that I didn't realize was a defining moment. It was something that actually came to me just yesterday, Tracie. I, in about 2018, I decided to sign up for life coaching.

Tracie:

For your own, like to have a coach?

Jana:

Yeah, I was, yeah. I hired a life coach. Yeah. And when I did it, it was, I felt very moved by, by the coach and the when she was speaking and by the words that she had said at some event where I met her and I thought, I would love, I was very happy I was in my mortgage career thought that I was super happy, I was making great money and. Yet. And I wanted more personally. So when I started working with Lauren, it was for personal reasons. I wanted to be a little healthier and I wanted to work on my relationship with my husband as a wife to make sure I was being a good wife to him because he's an amazing husband. I won the husband jackpot. That's so sweet. Like any relationship, especially when you're together for many years, there's ups and downs and so I just wanted to be a better wife to him and be a better steward of my physical body and take care of my body. So that was how this whole thing started. So I, I did a little bit of life coaching and so it's 2018. Fast forward. In the mortgage business. We had the pandemic came and then the lockdown. And while many people were out of work in the mortgage business, we were bombarded with work because the interest rates were so low during that time.

Tracie:

Sure.

Jana:

So I spent, a couple years really just nose to the computer and I became a paper pusher. And I didn't really realize it, but when. Things started to open up again in 22, and it was time to go back out in the world. I didn't want to, I didn't wanna keep doing what I was doing, and I didn't know what the heck I wanted to do, but I knew I was done like the mortgage career. I was like I've taken this journey as far as I can. I'm personally not happy anymore. And I had gone in and out of the coaching with Lauren my life coach. And so it was interesting because when I left the mortgage business, and I know we've talked about this before, like the very next day, after my last day in the business, I got an invitation to go to. A dream builder workshop, which is what, how I met Lauren in the first place. And it was just beautiful that fell in my lap. So I had the opportunity to do a little dream building and that the program that I attended is. And I'll get back. It's what I ended up now being certified to teach. And in that moment, I had no idea that was gonna happen. So I went to the workshop. I spent two days dream building, decided that I was going to start a home organizing business, and that is what I did. And so I reengaged with Lauren as my business coach. So she does did coaching for coaches. And that came with the life coaching piece as well. So for the couple, first couple of years I was working with her, building my organizing business. I was experiencing the training of having the life coach. And what's beautiful about the program that, that I studied and teach is we work with four quadrants of life. So we really focus on, not only our vocation and our work in this world, but also time and money. Freedom, health and wellness and love and relationships. Yeah. So it was a nice well-rounded experience and I think having that teaching while I was working with my clients it naturally just merged for me that. While I love organizing, I, and I'm fanatic about it. I'm the per, I'm the kid that comes home and organizes my parents' pantry even though they didn't ask me to. Yeah. A little, and, a little annoying to them, but it always looks better when I leave, so I feel good.

Tracie:

And maybe there's some expired things that can go away.

Jana:

Always. I, yeah, A disorganization just makes my brain hurt. So if I have an opportunity to get in there and do it, I will. Anyway, that was so funny. I totally lost track of where I was going. As I was working with my organizing clients, I realized that the. The internal transformation that they were having from the work that we were doing and the conversations that we were having was really the part that lit me up because as an organizer, I, one of the, my pillars when I founded that business is I don't work for people. I'm not going into fix it for you. I want to go in there and really help you understand why you're doing what you're doing and help you create systems and tools. To support you when we're done so that the best day of my job with you is the day you don't need me anymore. You can do this now, fly, be free, right? And I've worked with some beautiful clients who have taught me so much, and I've seen so much growth and change in them. It's been a really beautiful experience. And it, there was just a point where, and I don't even, I couldn't even pinpoint it, but there was a point where I realized, holy moly, I actually wanna be a life coach. Like here, I'm a home organizer. Guest

Tracie:

evolution.

Jana:

Yeah. And I love it, but I'm like, okay, I want to be a life coach. Wow. Okay. That's. Really scary. Really scary. Why

Tracie:

is it scary?

Jana:

You know what? I think part of why it was scary to me was my own mindset around what a life coach is.

Tracie:

Okay.

Jana:

So a lot of people didn't know I had a life coach. It was something I did in secret because. It's

Tracie:

it's very personal. It can be very personal.

Jana:

It can be very personal. But I also had a mindset around what I thought it meant. Like the, oh, the spirituality and yeah, I, it's oh, only those crazy, and I know this term has come up in other podcasts of yours, but only woo people do that kind of stuff. Stuff. I've realized woo is just, wow. Wow. Woo.

Tracie:

I like

Jana:

it. Yeah, it is. It's amazing. And it's, I think woo is really just our mindset of what we think it means. Because the reality is, and I heard Lisa talking about this in your podcast with her it's scientific. It, these are rules. Exactly. These are universal laws. The, just the way it all works. Yeah. Everything is connected.

Tracie:

Yeah. Yeah. It's universal laws in the way things are connected, but it's also, there's also the science underneath. The thought processes. You have how your neurology functions. And it's a whole body situation. It's not just something you're imagining.

Jana:

Absolutely. So I've learned I've learned that being in the place of understanding It's it's easier to live my life every day. Like my new knowledge, my new skillset that I've gained since I started life coaching as a student. It's just, it's beautiful. It's almost effortless. And people have said to me, wow, you seem different. Gosh, you're always in such a good mood. Oh, I love your positive energy. And I love that I walk around in the world now a very different human than I was five years ago.

Tracie:

Beautiful.

Jana:

Yeah,

Tracie:

I love that. I love that. And that story is not, no offense, that story is not unique. Oh, no. Absolutely gone. I know. I'm kidding about the, no offense kidding. Not kidding. Because it's an we. We get it. Because we've helped people and ourselves transform. I was telling someone the other day, I was like, oh yeah, when I was in corporate, I was a sarcastic bitch and people looked at me going. What?

Jana:

Yeah. I can't imagine.

Tracie:

And there's still little humor tendencies in there that that lean into that persona. But it's because I wasn't conscious. I wasn't thinking about. How I was showing up in the world. I wasn't thinking about what I needed to be my best self. I wasn't thinking about how to support other people wherever they were at. With whatever it is that they're going through or that I don't even know about. Yeah, so The idea that, or the things that you go through as you're learning to become a coach and really any kind of coach in the sense that our lives are intertwined with everything that we do. You started off as a life coach. I started off as a health coach and moved into life, but clearly your health and your life are heavily intertwined and the questions are still the same. What do you want? Why do you want it? How can you become the person who you imagine has that, like all of those questions. So I love that. And Jan, I wanna say also that when you and I first talked about how you work with people as a organizer before you became a life coach in profession, that you were already doing that work as an organizer. And I really was drawn to that in our conversation because. A lot of I don't wanna say this as a stereotype, because I don't know probably any other home organizers as well as I know you, but I know several and have met several. And the impression that I get is very there's a lot of detail oriented and all of that kinda stuff, but I never heard anyone else talk about how you wanna help the person understand themselves. As much as you shared with me when we first met. So I wanna acknowledge you for that because clearly you were already on that path and you just didn't know it yet.

Jana:

I did not know it. I didn't and it's been, it is really been beautiful. And I don't. It's crazy to me, Tracie, that it's ended up this way. I don't know if I mentioned this to you before or not, but I had a memory popped into my head. It's funny when you think of things. I was in the shower and all of a sudden I remembered, oh my gosh. I remember in high school telling my counselor that I wanted to grow up to be a counselor. A kid's counselor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then I thought to myself no, that's too emotional. I don't think I can handle that. And I didn't, I don't think I ever really thought about it again. Because I, but maybe I wasn't ready, I told my mom not long ago, we were talking about. The coaching piece. And she's of course super happy for me and loves the human that I've become growing in the process. But I said to her, gosh, I just, I wish I would've done this a long time ago. And she said, sweetheart, you're doing it exactly when you're supposed to be doing it because everything you did before led you up to this, to this moment in this time. And it's so true. I have there's so much as older. Women that we have to reflect on, the things that we've gone through in life, success or failure. They don't define us. They're just part of the fabric of who we become in the process.

Tracie:

A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah. I say the same thing to myself, to clients, to teaching workshops that whatever, you become the person. There's a phrase, something about what you go through. In any case, we've all been through some stuff. And there's been a lot of good and there's been some bad. And the collective has been through the pandemic and we've all had things other than that, that have shaped who we become. I a hundred percent agree with that. And I wouldn't, as much as loss is a part of that. And unmet expectations is my favorite phrase.'cause that's really covers all of it. It covers loss, it covers the pandemic, it covers job changes and friends changing, and all of those things. We've all had unmet expectations, and every single one of those has created who we are today. And if we like that, we can keep going in the same way, but if we feel like we're becoming someone. More and we want to change something, we get to turn in that direction and start to figure out what else we don't know.

Jana:

And you and I know this, the reason I, the reason you do coaching also a different kind, but the reason I do this kind of coaching is there are so many people walking around in the world who don't know that they can change it.

Tracie:

Absolutely

Jana:

right. They're just I refer to the movie Groundhog Day all the time. Yep. That's how I felt. I was living my life. I was just getting up doing the same thing. You go to work, you do, you make your dinner, you go get groceries, get the kids ready off to school, whatever your thing is. Yeah. And you just go to bed and get up and do it again the next day. We spend more time planning a weekend event than we do the rest of our lives. Yeah. Ooh, that's good. It's beautiful to have an opportunity to help people uncover the stuff that's in there that they've just pushed down. And I can relate to that because I had pushed down a lot. Like you said, we've all had our things in life. I had some bad things happen to me. I, and then it's the mindset around, oh, you were adopted. What does that mean for you? Or any sort of, personal violation you may have had with a friend or a family member. There's so many things that people have experienced that are buried deep in that chest. And for many years I was afraid of. Part of why I was afraid of life coaching or therapy of any type is because that meant I had to open the box right and let those experiences bubble up. And I was very much the person who would just push it down and push it down and push it down. But my coach Lauren always shares an analogy I think she got from ano, her coach Mary Morrissey, but about you can only hold a beach ball underwater for so long. Eventually it's just gonna burst. It's just gonna fly out of the water. Out of control

Tracie:

and out of control. In very uncontrolled manner.

Jana:

Exactly. Exactly. Being able to help people deal with that stuff, and it's baby steps. Yeah. Baby steps.

Tracie:

It is. And I think also that, for me, part of my story is my first husband passing away, and I think a lot of us also feel like. We have this story, but no one's gonna understand. They're not gonna be able to relate to it. And I wasn't shy of telling people what happened to me, but I, especially in business, like I never used that story in telling people how I became this person because I didn't think anyone would be able to relate to it. I don't, didn't know anyone else who lost their husband to cancer. At my age with two little kids, you know that story. And of course I've come across many stories now, but you think no one else has gone through what you've gone through to become the person you are. And what's great is when you finally realize that A, so for me, grief is the all encompassing word, but really it's again about unmet expectations. What we don't realize is that every single person has unmet expectations. And now that we've had the pandemic. It's something that literally every person on the pan on the planet had. Not knowing lots of not knowing, we'll just leave it at that. Not knowing lots of things. And so now we can all relate to that and we can all relate to other things that we didn't know. Like that my husband was gonna die, that my mom was gonna pass at 51, that x, that Y, that Z and whatever it is that other people have gone through. But the. The how you come out the other side, the resilience that's needed, and the understanding of your own emotions and all of that. Those are the things that are what tie us together. Regard. It doesn't have to be the same experience because the resulting growth or resistance is what ties us all together and we can all relate to that.

Jana:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah, you couldn't have said it any better.

Tracie:

That is a fact. Okay, so

Jana:

cell phones.

Tracie:

Sorry. I know, I guess just got a call from Elaine. I didn't,

Jana:

I neglected to mute.

Tracie:

Oh, I didn't hear it

Jana:

muted now.

Tracie:

Alright, edit.

Jana:

We'll cut that part.

Tracie:

Yeah, we'll get that part. It's all good. Okay. So how has it been now that you've become Jana, your true North Life coach and you still have some some organizing clients as well as you transition, not even transition, but blend the two together and leverage the two for probably all the people that you meet. I would imagine you're always thinking this would help them, that would help them both sides of the same coin, for lack of a better. Terms. So how has it been since you've brought in life coaching to your work and give us an update. It is absolutely fun. So my, my thing now is just trying to get in front of as many people as I can. And share the the DreamBuilder program and what that looks like and build some group coaching. So one-on-one is the. One-on-one coaching is important to my business, but I would love to do group coaching. Yeah. So I love one-on-one because it's good for people who are scared of coaching. But on the flip side, group coaching is also, I. It depends on the person. Yeah. Some people really like that one-on-one connection because they feel ashamed. Yeah. And so they, that's why they might not wanna do a group. A group. I personally look forward to group because when I was in group coaching, I realized I. Everyone there. It's collaborative. People learn from everybody else's questions. And like you just said, you thought you were the only one who had experienced what you experienced. And when that other square on the screen asks the question, you're like, oh my God, that's exactly what I would've asked. And it's just, it's beautiful to watch and it builds such a community. Running the Gather community. That's right. What it's like to bring like-minded people together. Everyone may have different struggles that they've been through, but that underlying how do I deal with it is the same. I. No matter which piece it is like the DreamBuilder program, like I mentioned, the four quadrants that we work in. Yeah. So one of the exercises I do during the workshop is we go through and talk about each quadrant. So that was love and relationships, health and wellbeing your vocation or work in this world, and time and money freedom, and you kinda rate where you're at. In each. And then you do a little mini vision for each of what would I love if I had a magic wand and I could do anything? What would I love in my health and wellness? What would I love in my time and money freedom? And after we do that exercise it's interesting because you can feel where you have the most longing. The most discontent. The most disconnect. And then I encourage my, my clients to really pick one to focus on. And then we can dig deeper if we choose to work together, if it makes sense to work together longer term, we can really dig into that one area. Yeah. But the principles that they learn for dream building, they're gonna, it's gonna be re repeated in that next quadrant. So like, when you get and you're never really done, like I started on health and wellness and I'm still. Circling back to that quadrant because there's still work to be done. Yeah. There's no such thing as perfection and we're not done till we're dead. Absolutely. And we come to it with a new sense of awareness. Yeah. You're a new person. Every, like in the

Jana:

beginning when you're new, you're scratching the surface and then there's this new level of understanding and awareness of how it works. That changes everything. Anyway, I love going through that process, but. I want to also share the thing that I would encourage everyone that is the foundation of transformation and the thing that has changed my life the most, and probably why it's my free giveaway on my website, but it's implementing a morning routine.

Tracie:

Oh yeah. Okay,

Jana:

good.'cause all the things that we are teaching as coaches gratitude, what would I love? What would that look like? Knowledge, growing and learning and absorbing more. All of the things that are important can happen during that morning routine.

Tracie:

Yep.

Jana:

A little quiet time. A little journaling, a little gratitude. Even if someone just takes. Two to five minutes just to start the practice. So five years ago I would've told you, oh, I am not a morning person. I hate mornings. Don't even talk to me before 10 o'clock. Now I'm up at six or six 30 and my morning time is sacred to me, and it's sacred because it gives me the space to implement the tools that are actually. Making me walk around in the world as a better person. Yeah, I can listen to a guided meditation if I'm getting ready for something like in a, if I feel like I need, more confidence. I can listen to a meditation about, who I am in the world. If I, whatever I wanna do, there's something that I can tap into to refocus me. So my morning routine started as two to five minutes if and when I could to. Every morning I spent 10 minutes. Now I'm probably a good hour. Into my morning routine.

Tracie:

Wow.

Jana:

It's sacred. It's sacred. And I literally, Tracie walk out into the backyard, weather permitting, put my bare feet in the grass and greet the sunshine.

Tracie:

Yes.

Jana:

Every morning I possibly can. And it is an, and it sounds so five years ago, I'm like, that is so woo today. It is now. Wow.

Tracie:

Oh, it's so good. It's so good. Okay, I have a question. Yes. You mentioned listening to a guided meditation. What, where do you get your meditations?

Jana:

So the meditations that I listen to are all provided by my coach Lauren, and accessible through me. Okay.'cause there's so many meditations. There are the things that you can download. I've tried a few others. The voices really sometimes don't work for me. And to be, yeah, you gotta find one

Tracie:

that works for you.

Jana:

So Lauren as my coach, she's like my mentor in my muse, and I find her just comforting.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Jana:

So I probably listen to her. Once or twice a day.

Tracie:

Yeah. Oh, that's great. I don't know if she knows that I'm not really stalking her. And I've done that before. Obviously, I've been working with Katerina Rando for a number of years and she has had meditations and things to send out over the years. They're probably even still, they might even still be on her links page, but but I've received those from her before. And there is something about having your coach and mentor be the voice that you're listening to. Even in a one way thing. Because you know that they get you and so you're listening as if it's specifically for you.

Jana:

Yes.

Tracie:

And as opposed to something that's more consumer, oriented on Insight timer or on Calm or whatever. I will share, I personally use Headspace because the guy who founded Headspace, Andy, he is Australian and he is got a great accent.

Jana:

We like that, do we?

Tracie:

And he's well, and he's just really interested. I, knowing his story, I will just briefly share that he was a tech guy who became a monk. And like tech guy, I grew up in Silicon Valley mostly, even though I moved around several places in Silicon Valley, this is, that was my home and that was my origin. Knowing that I don't wanna say tech bro, because that wasn't from when he was there, but like the idea of someone who's in that kind of high achieving, fast-paced world of corporate life in the South Bay where I grew up. To be able to say that can lead you. To full kind of calm, even if that's where you started, you can get to where he is. Which is a calm, enlightened, open, space. So I think that's why I like that. I do the accent. I can't lie.

Jana:

Yeah. I think meditation

Tracie:

and then have a number of people too, but

Jana:

me some sort of meditation and gratitude is just,

Tracie:

yeah.

Jana:

It's a no brainer.

Tracie:

And you mentioned going out and putting your feet in the ground and greeting the sun. And I think that, and that's something that I have a challenge with myself. My yard, my fam, my life situation here at this house, I have a challenge with that. I don't have an overhang, so if it is anything but sunny, I'm not out there. If it's get a dog, I have grass and I have a dog, and I don't really have grass, I have, oh, you have a dog? Oh yeah. Oh, and they don't need to go out and walk. Oh, that's right. You do have a big dog door. Oh, gotcha. She's self-sufficient just like me. Got. We're very much alike. But and there's also like stuff going, there's plants that need to be planned, like there's clutter out there'cause it's like a yard in progress all the time. And so it doesn't serve me. So what I can do, just like us as humans Absolutely work in progress. What I can do is I can open these windows. And my plants that I haven't killed, I'm so happy for them. I can open these windows and just look out and look, yes, I'm looking across the lower roof, but also to the palm tree and the oak tree and the redwood tree, and try to, and get the sunlight through there so I don't get the ground, the feet in the ground. But I absolutely. Value the fact that I have sunlight and and if I, if it's not too cold, I'll open the window. And so sunlight and air, at least two outta three ain't bad.

Jana:

Yes.

Tracie:

Because it is we're, we're not designed as humans. To live in a box.

Jana:

And now that I think now that we're working at home, more absolute many people are just this, we're on screen all the time. Yeah. So the more we can disconnect and get away from technology. Like I, when I go for walks, that's often when I'm listen to meditations is when I'm walking. Okay. And if I'm not, I will walk without my phone. Just because it gives me time in silence, and that's part of my morning routine. The first 15 minutes is silence.

Tracie:

Yeah. Yeah,

Jana:

that's good. Don't touch anything. Don't talk to anyone. Just sit in silence. And something new I learned was to, when you first wake up, smile, just smiling, changes your physiology.

Tracie:

Mel Robbins would say, and go give yourself a high five in the mirror. Heck yeah. Alright my friend. I love this. Oh, there was something else I was gonna ask you. We talked about your move from your former career to your, your organizing business to your life coaching business, you're talking about moving from the primarily one-on-one coaching, moving into group coaching. What do you see have you imagined, I know you have your third philosophy going on so what does that look like? What do you see for, the next whatever time period you wanna choose, but what's ahead?

Jana:

So what is ahead for me is focusing solely on your true North Life coaching. And the organizing piece will always be there because that is it's my different differentiator, excuse me,

Tracie:

school for your true north.

Jana:

Yeah, exactly. A bonus, an add-on. Yeah. Yeah. Because the connection between our physical space and our mental and our heart space is really important. So as I'm coaching people through whatever program they end up doing with me I want to be able to offer them some tools to support them at home. Yeah. Because I'm a big believer that while I'm talking to people on a screen, what really matters is when they close the lid and turn around and walk out into their home, that it is supportive and conducive to all the other goals and dreams and things they're trying to accomplish in their life. Yeah. So back to what's ahead For me, it's going to be as much speaking and doing workshops as possible, just getting the word out there and serving my life coaching clients. And then my big vision in my, so I do, I'm a dream builder client still. So I still have coaching and the same thing that I now coach people on. I don't because we're never done. But in my vision at the end of the year. I'm standing in the middle of a foyer of a tropical hotel. I haven't figured out where it is yet, but I'm standing there and I'm just. Basking in the beauty and the joy of watching my students and all the other coaches I've collaborated with come together in a beautiful retreat in a tropical place and just celebrating our growth and loving this world and. Bringing light and spreading light. So that's my vision. So it'll be workshops, coaching retreats. And the beauty of it is I can do it from anywhere in the world. So I hope to just travel as much as possible when my husband retires, which I hope is as soon as possible.

Tracie:

Awesome. So that's my vision. And I love, that's beautiful and I love that your retreat vision includes not only you and your retreaters, but also other coaches. And their retreaters and your whole collaborative effort. And I think that is the benefit of, being part of a program that is a widespread program, very respected and highly known, and all of those things. So congratulations to you on, on. Joining up with this other community of people who are all serving their people in the same way, so that you do have that ability. And because I can tell you as with the gather community, there's nothing like it. Absolutely. Absolutely. Having the people that you can, you can call upon to support, but also to just be together. And be on the same page and kind of be in that same vibe, that whole woo vibe. Everyone. Everyone's in the same place.

Jana:

We'll wow. Together.

Tracie:

Yeah. I love it. It's amazing. And I see the palm tree in the lobby, so Yes. We'll just say that. I don't know where it is either, but I see the palm tree.

Jana:

Awesome. I love being part of the community and I love the collaborative mindset because there's a gazillion. Types of coaches out there, but as a transformational life coach, it we're really looking at a broader picture. Yeah. And while we'll focus on one area, I know in this work there are people who need. More than I can give them on a specific thing, whether it's grief or weight loss or whatever that thing is. And having my gather community, my community of other coaches that I can collaborate with and people I know I can trust. Yeah. Who I can refer my clients to, to have extra support. I have four or five coaches, and I'm a coach, so there, there are not too many coaches in this world.

Tracie:

Absolutely. Yeah. There's a lot of us, but we're all absolutely unique

Jana:

and, but there are so many more Tracie, who. Don't have coaches. Absolute who absolutely will never, ever, who have not learned the things that we know and that we're able to share. It's shocking. If you think about the population,

Tracie:

oh yeah,

Jana:

there's a lot of us, but there's still not enough.

Tracie:

Yeah there's still not enough and there's still that, and that's why there's no competition and my mind. Amen. Because, amen. There's still, plenty of people out there. Everyone needs support. And whether that is by understanding that you have hired a coach, right? Or that you're in a community of other people who are empathetic and understanding and can't, and just give you the support that you need. Professional coaching. Yes. And also community. Because that's at least a start.

Jana:

We have to invest in ourselves for sure.

Tracie:

Absolutely. This has been amazing and I love where our direction took us to seeing your big vision for the future and what is. On the horizon as you look at your true North. So I'm very thrilled to have you here on the podcast. I wanna thank you and I want to encourage everyone out there to check out Jana's information, connect with her. Help her reach her goal of reaching more people. If you know somewhere that is looking for a speaker like Jana, please reach out to her. And that is, I think one of the biggest gifts we can give someone who wants to speak is, do you have a group who would enjoy me as a speaker? You as a speaker introduce us, tell us you know, how we can help. Because that's our mission is to share. Yes. Awesome. Jana, thank you again and thank you. Thank you for being on the Bold and Brilliant podcast.

Jana:

My pleasure.