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The Bold and Brilliant Podcast with guest Elisabeth Stitt (upd)

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🎧 Episode Summary:
In this heartwarming and eye-opening episode of the Bold and Brilliant Podcast, host Tracie Root is joined by parenting expert and coach Elisabeth Stitt, founder of Joyful Parenting Coaching. With a lifetime devoted to children—from early babysitting gigs to years in the classroom—Elisabeth shares her powerful journey from passionate teacher to impactful parenting coach. Her story is a testament to following your calling, even when it means taking a bold leap into the unknown. Tune in to hear how one spontaneous decision changed the course of her career and her mission to bring peace to families—one household at a time.

✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
🔹 How Elisabeth’s lifelong connection to children shaped her career
🔹 Why she chose coaching over traditional therapy and teaching
🔹 The bold, pivotal moment that led her to leave a secure teaching career
🔹 How coaching parents can prevent burnout and restore joy in family life
🔹 The surprising power of thinking long-term in parenting—raising thriving adults, not just “good kids”

🛠️ Actionable Tips from Elisabeth Stitt:

  • Parent with intention, not just reaction. Define your values and align your parenting approach accordingly.
  • Create a family "master plan." Know the kind of adult you're raising, and reverse engineer the qualities you want them to have.
  • Don’t wait for a crisis. Get proactive parenting support early—before things feel broken.
  • Clarity comes from conversation. A no-pressure call with a coach can help parents see what’s possible and where support is needed.
  • Invest in family transformation. Coaching isn't about fixing problems—it's about creating the joyful family life you really want.

🎤 Memorable Quote:
"It doesn't have to be that way. Parenting can be joyful—but only if we choose to be intentional and supported." – Elisabeth Stitt

🔥 Bold Moment of the Episode:
Elisabeth stood in the middle of her school office, holding a bright pink form asking if she would return to her teaching position. Without hesitation—and without consulting anyone—she checked “I’m leaving,” handed it in, and walked out. That spontaneous decision launched her decade-long career (and counting!) as a parenting coach.

📱 Connect with Elisabeth Stitt:
Visit JoyfulParentingCoaching.com to schedule a free Getting to Know You call, explore her resources, or inquire about private coaching.

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Your host,
Tracie Root

Tracie:

Elisabeth, I am so excited to have you here on the podcast. Welcome.

Elisabeth:

Thank you. Happy, happy,

Tracie:

happy, happy. I know, you know, we spend a lot of time together. We're very, I think we're both very lucky that way, and. It's always a joy, right? And it that really goes back to like you are who you say you are with joyful parenting, coaching, like being with you is a joy. You are full of joy, you exude joy. And so I wanted to acknowledge you for that because I'm excited to talk to you because it brings me joy. So thank you for that. And I wish we could hug and twirl, but today we're just gonna hear be here on Zoom and love each other from afar.

Elisabeth:

Okay

Tracie:

okay. So. Joyful parenting Coaching obviously is where you are now, but we've been lots of places in our lives. So tell us how you became this child full of joy to become this adult full of joy, to bring joy to others. So, you know, where did you start? What did you do before coaching? Give us a little bit of your origin story. I know it can be extensive, so.

Elisabeth:

I've been super, super, super lucky about is that I have always been focused on children, and my mother tells the stories of, you know, my tender, tender care of my baby dolls, and when. As soon as at Sunday school, as soon as we were old enough to walk to Sunday school class ourselves, instead of being brought there by an adult, I would walk right by my Sunday school class and go on to the nursery and hang out with the two year olds. And for whatever reason, the parents who were in charge of the nursery never sent me to my Sunday school class.

Tracie:

They probably loved having your support with the babies.

Elisabeth:

They probably did. They probably did. And so, you know, even from the time that I was hardly, you know, more than a baby myself, I was engaging with kids who were younger than I, I had no friends in elementary school. Second grade I would spend my recesses in the kindergarten helping to support the kindergartners. And by fourth grade I was a mother's helper. She was an artist, stay at home artist whose studio was right off the kitchen. So my number one mission was to keep the kids happy enough so that they didn't go and bang on her door. And I got very good at that. And then I became her regular babysitter. She was part of a co-op and you know, so by sixth grade I was babysitting for her every week and then for all kinds of families all over the place. And

Tracie:

you're kind of your own personal babysitters club starting with one.

Elisabeth:

I was kind of my own personal babysitters club. Yes. And it's funny because I'm trying to remember how did strangers find me? In those days, but they did. And so, you know, I would go all over town and babysit and in high school I had a job as. There was a girl with down syndromes and she just needed extra support and practice in her physicality

Tracie:

mm-hmm.

Elisabeth:

In, in using her body. And so we would go and we would play and we would balance beam on, you know, things, on edges of things and we would practice with balls and, you know, again, just interacting with her in a way that was positive. In ninth grade when we all. Had to write research papers and we were learning how to write them so we could write them on whatever we wrote. I wrote how to be an Effective Parent, and I so wish that I still had that, that paper because I did too. I could imagine how officious I was at 14, how to be an effective parent.

Tracie:

I wonder if your English teacher, if it was English class if your teacher was a parent.

Elisabeth:

Mm. My English teacher, Lee Clemens was in my ballet class, and he wa he, he was gay. He was not a parent. And but so we had a, we had a very. Talky relationship because we would talk at ballet as well as as as talk in class. You know, and on the one hand I think, well, who did, I think I was to write a paper on how to be an effective parent. And on the other hand, when we think about Gladstone's, 50,000 hours. 10,000 hours, right? And we think, well, you know, by the time I got to ninth grade, I hadn't spent 10,000 hours, but I'd spent a lot of hours.

Tracie:

Mm-hmm. And the majority of your hours, right?

Elisabeth:

Yeah.

Tracie:

Percentage wise of the hours that you had existed. Well, a lot of my,

Elisabeth:

it's definitely a lot of my free time hours. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I started as a camp counselor the summer after I graduated from high school and. Was a camp counselor for six summers. I did not go to Wheaton College in Massachusetts with the intention of being a teacher. I signed up for Psycho 1 0 1. I thought maybe I'd be a counselor or a therapist of some kind. Mm-hmm. An education teacher spoke at freshman orientation, and she was so riveting and so dynamic that even though she was speaking about women's role in history and not anything about education, I was like, I have to take a class with her. And so I went to the register's office and I dropped Psych 1 0 1 and I took the first education class and that was really it. That was, that was sort of a natural path and,

Tracie:

I think it's interesting that you had spent all of this time and had written about how to be, well, I guess, an effective parent. You weren't really thinking teaching, you were thinking parenting even at a young age, but that you didn't make that initial connection, that teaching would be the way to go so that you could continue to spend time with as many kids as possible.

Elisabeth:

Well, you know, my guess is that. I probably thought that teaching was more about the curriculum than necessarily the kids. Yeah. And in fact, when I left teaching, one of the reasons I left teaching was because I was. Bored with teaching comma splices and how to correct them.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Elisabeth:

And really I was more and more focused on interacting with, in this case, middle schoolers and saying, you know, who are you? How can we apply the literature that we're reading? How can we use the literature we are reading to ask the question, who am I? Who do I wanna be?

Tracie:

Hmm.

Elisabeth:

You know, do I wanna be Atticus Finch? Do I wanna be. You know, the good, the bad, the ugly.

Tracie:

Yeah. I love that. I love that. You know, my kids are teenagers, older teenagers now, as you well know, but other people might not know this. And I think about when they were in middle school and the things that they were reading and reading the outsiders and reading, like all of these really standard, every middle schooler goes through kind of these, this list of books. Although my oldest was such a prolific reader, I think he read the whole library. At that age. So the I love that perspective from the teacher and it kind of show what it's showing me is that, yeah, you went into education, but that desire to really get to know the kids and support the kids as humans never left from when you thought you wanted to be a counselor. Yes. Right. Like you did have that kind of counseling ilk, is that the right word? I don't know. Even though you ended up. Yes, exactly. And I'm surprised that the curriculum ultimately was the thing that kind of got the, got to be the boring part, that you're doing the same thing over and over and while the kids are different, that was always the same. So,

Elisabeth:

and the, the last three years I was teaching we had a job on campus called the Outreach Teacher, which was half funded by the school district and half funded. It wasn't even a full-time dodge, it was half funded by the school district, half funded by the parent club. Mm-hmm. It was essentially being school counselor and when the woman who had been doing the job for years decided to retire, you know, I was like, oh, okay. So I was like, I've gotta talk to my principal and I. Thought, you know, I walked out at recess and I up to her, she's I have to talk to you. She says, I have to talk to you, and we turn to each other. I'm like, I want that job. She's like, you, you need the, you know, you're the person for that job.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Elisabeth:

And so it was just one of those, you know, all the work that I had been doing, sort of auxiliaries of the classroom. I had created the character education program. I had created a study skills program. I had created a. Sort of, I was, I, we'd started the Happiness Club. I was the advisor to the junior optimists whose mission was to improve the lives of children in San Mateo County. Love it. And so, you know, all these pieces were there and they were lined up and they were coming together. And I did anticipate, or I did think, I had thought kind of for a long time that I would wanna go back and do an MFT.

Tracie:

Mm-hmm.

Elisabeth:

And when I actually looked at the nitty gritty of how much work it would be. And ironically because I didn't even take Psych 1 0 1, I would've had a lot of extra psych classes that I had to take to even get up.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Elisabeth:

You know, to the next level. And then the real killer is, in California at least, it's 3000 supervised hours before you can go off and do something yourself. And so I was really. Like a little bit in a slump, and I'm like, what am I gonna do? I don't know about this. And then my sister invited me on a women's retreat who was run by a life coach. I'd never heard of a life coach.

Tracie:

When was this? Do you remember?

Elisabeth:

This was like 20 mm, I dunno. 20 12, 20 13. Something in there. And she said the golden words, which is that. Coaching in the United States is unregulated. Right. You could be a coach of anything if people will pay you for it.

Tracie:

Right.

Elisabeth:

And that was just like a big click moment of like, oh, I could do the work that I wanna do without Right.

Tracie:

Spending three years in education there.

Elisabeth:

Right, right. And I knew that I, I, I didn't wanna do deep psychological work.

Tracie:

Right.

Elisabeth:

I'm a very like nuts and bolt grounded, practical kind of person. And what I was seeing in the parents of my students was that they no longer had those kinds of nuts and bolts parenting skills and they didn't need deep psychological counseling. I mean, some might. Yeah, of course, but you know, a lot of them just needed. The education and the support and the guidance, and the accountability that, you know, generations prior parents may be got by sitting down with coffee with a girlfriend and sharing or standing around at a barbecue on Saturday night when we weren't slumped on our couches watching Netflix.

Tracie:

Well, and this, so we've already kind of turned this corner, so I'm gonna interrupt you just to say, you know, the thing that I want all of our, our guests here on the podcast to talk about is the bold decision that they made that changed everything for them. We've already kind of gotten there by talking about coaching versus being a therapist versus teaching and all of these things. And so. And, and I don't know that I remember hearing the whole thing about that. I wanna say it's the, I don't remember the name. The resource teacher.

Elisabeth:

Oh, being a resource teacher.

Tracie:

Yeah. Which honestly, my youngest went to the resource teacher at his school every week for a year and a half. And it was life changing for him. Very, very supportive. So I'm really glad that you did that.'cause I can see you in that role, like based on his experience. And so the, the change from deciding to leave teaching that was, it was more natural than I had anticipated before because you went from being a classroom teacher to a different kind of teacher and then leaving teaching generally. So that makes a lot more sense to me now than in, than in any of our previous conversations. So thank you.

Elisabeth:

Yeah, it definitely. Gave me some practice. So Right, the difference between being a classroom teacher where mostly you're interacting with parents on a parent student teacher conference and you're going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, because the next person is already standing outside the door. Yep. Right. You've been the parent wanting to talk still, but feeling the pressure. Yep. But our time is up and so we can't have very, you know, deeper, complex conversations. And it was. One of the purposes of this job was to not have a lot on the list of what was I having to do so that I might just be sitting in my office with an empty office when a parent walked in, so that the office manager could say, no, the principal isn't available. Why don't you check and see if Mrs. Stitt is in her office? And then if I was, they could come in. And so for the first time. I was doing that coaching piece really without even knowing, you know, what I was doing. Because, you know, you would come in and everybody comes in with a, like a little tip of the iceberg of the school problem. Like, oh, it's a school issue, this is why I'm here. Mm. And it wasn't my job really to solve problems. It was really my job to just say, well, okay, Tracy, tell me more about that and what else is going on and what else, and what's going on at home and how about the other activities and what you know. And so bit by bit, question by question, getting more of the base of the iceberg.

Tracie:

Yeah. Well, and I love that, that that worked. The thing that comes to my mind is like they come in to talk to the principal because it's a school problem, but ultimately it literally has nothing to do with the principal. That's the figurehead of the organization at large, of the, the facility. Right. But really what they needed was to talk to you, to someone who had some inkling of what was actually happening from a behavior standpoint, from an experience standpoint out in the school where the principal has a very different job to manage the school, not necessarily the kids. I mean, they, they're, you know, I'm not trying to. To negate their effectiveness with the kids.

Elisabeth:

Principals are wonderful and they wear so many hats. Yeah. They don't ever have 45 minutes to just sort of say, you know, tell me more.

Tracie:

Well, and as the top of a large organization, a lot, you know, you have certain jobs that are yours and certain jobs that are delegated, just like any company, you know, it's a division of a company. Right. So the principal has to be like, okay, well this. Thing is something that is important for me to spend a lot of time on or a little time on. And this other person really could be more effective. Exactly. And that's where you were, is to be the effective one. And they needed you anyway ultimately instead of the principal. Right? Yeah. But there still was a big moment. It still was a leap. Yeah. So talk about like deciding the leap from from classroom to the resource teacher, but then you decided. To start coaching and literally leave the school, which just like from an environment a day to day I'm working for myself. Talk about that decision. Well, and first of all, Tracy,

Elisabeth:

I have to say that, yeah, I was doing the resource teaching job. I was still part-time in the classroom. I was doing two sections a day in the classroom at this perfect school. Academic magnet school, great. Super involved, quirky kids, lots of flexibility about what we're, what we're teaching and how we're teaching. This was a perfect job and I. You know, I probably could have just stayed the other 10 years and then I would be retiring at about now from teaching and, you know, having put in the, the, the years, the full, full retirement years in the school district. So it's not like I, you know, people are going like, oh, my JOBI can't stand it. Right? No, like I really did love my job and with the resource piece I was getting enough. Other stuff that wasn't comma splices that I think I could have come through the 10 years with enough passion and energy and commitment to show up for my kids every day as if it were my first year teaching.

Tracie:

Mm-hmm.

Elisabeth:

But with all the experience and wisdom. That you came and all those years?

Tracie:

Well, because we've all, as parents, a lot of us have experienced the teacher who, like they aren't happy anymore and they weren't, haven't been happy for years. Yes. And why are they still here? And you could have not had that issue.

Elisabeth:

I could have not had that issue. And I was also very clear. I had made a promise to myself. It, it is unfair. It is unfair to your students. Mm-hmm. It's one thing to be inexperienced. You can't help that, and the only thing you can do is to get, teach more and get more experience. Right. It's, you know, you are not the, the full teacher when you're in your first couple years of teaching that you're gonna be later. There's no doubt about that. But to not bow out and to step away when you are not showing up a hundred percent. Yeah. That to me is, is I get it from a financial point of view. It's too bad that the system's kind of like that, but to me it really is, is unconscionable. And I just promised myself that I would never do it.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Elisabeth:

I wasn't there though. So it was still more like having listened to these parents as the outreach teacher and hearing like levels of. Overwhelm and anxiety and guilt. Oh my gosh. The levels of guilt that parents were feeling. And I kept thinking, oh my goodness. Parenting is always gonna be demanding and it's always gonna be complex because we're dealing with human beings and personalities and different pieces. But I was just observing so many parents experiencing it as like. Sucking all the joy out of life.

Tracie:

Mm-hmm.

Elisabeth:

And I just kept thinking it didn't have to be that way. It didn't have to be that way, but I still wasn't like, okay, I'm gonna stop the school year and I'm gonna go and I'm, and I'm gonna go do this. Yeah. The stars kind of aligned in that I had had a particularly. Intent session with a parent. And then I walked to my box in the office and every year the teachers get a neon pink form that says, do you wanna return to your same position, your same school, in a different position, a different school, or are you leaving? And I just stood in the middle of the swirl of the office. Pushing me aside, and I'm hand holding this paper and I'm just riveted to this paper. And it just all flashed in a moment. And I grabbed the nearest pen and I checked the, I'm leaving box and I signed my name and I handed it to the office manager and it was like, here, take this. And I walked out of the room and I'm like, wow, what have I just done? I had already taken the first weekend I, I got my coaches training was through Coaches Training Institute in San Rafael, and I had already done their first three day weekend and this was the sign to me to go sign up for the rest of their weekends and, and which, so I took I think two more within before the end of the school year. And which meant I'd had to take, they were three day weekends, so I had to take a Friday off, which was a big deal because I'm not the kind of teacher who took days off. Yeah. And so that in itself felt like, you know, you feel like who's, who's gonna be judging me? Who's gonna be looking at me? Like, who's, who am I letting down? I mean, that brought up a whole host of feelings. Uh, but the school year ended and then. I had done it. I had given up my tenure teaching job.

Tracie:

Wild. I love that the, your description of holding that paper with the swirling office like that feels like a movie scene to me. I can totally picture it. Wild. Wild. And that whoever it was that you handed, that slip too must have been like. Wait, you checked the wrong. Oh, she was too

Elisabeth:

busy. She didn't look at it right away, I'm sure. Oh, that's totally true.

Tracie:

Yes. I'm sure that that's true. But like in the movie, that's what would've happened. That's what would've happened in the movie.

Elisabeth:

Yeah, exactly.'cause it would've been about you because he would've been the main character. I didn't ask my husband. I didn't even, you know, I hadn't even really talked to him about this.

Tracie:

Wow.

Elisabeth:

You know, I mean, over the, the, the previous years. I had kind of been doing my research and it was more like when I was deciding, no, that was more when I had kind of said to him like, yeah, you know, I kind of looked into that. I thought that wouldn't work, and dah, dah, dah, dah. And, and then, you know, yeah. Like, no, I didn't even ask like, are you okay with me giving up my steady income? And somehow, how did that go at home? Oh, I mean, he's just, it's a whole other story. He's an entrepreneur himself and, and he's so. Okay, great. You know, like you go do what you wanna do. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he is, he's a Sagittarius. He's a freedom loving Sagittarius. And so the idea that you would, first of all, the idea that you would work the same tenured job for 25 years, I think to him was the bigger mystery. And so the idea that you would just say, okay, I'm gonna go do this, was much more in line with him. Yeah. But you know, even I. Even when things have gotten tough, Tracy, and you know, there's nothing about classroom teaching and working in a school that teaches you anything about running a business yourself. Nothing. So there were no skills to transfer there. Coaches training Institute at that time didn't do any of the business end of things. I'm not sure if they've changed a little bit, but. They would have maybe 20 minute conversations at the end of a session about, you know, how do you get clients? Not helpful. So I was really well trained as a coach and obviously all of the experience that I'd had already made that feel very natural and very easy. But yeah, business has, has been blah, blah, blah, blah.

Tracie:

Yeah. I mean, the good thing about being a coach is that the coaching is what we signed on for. So when you get to help the people, everything starts to feel good again. Yes. Yeah, of course. We've got to work through our challenges on the business side of thing, and they're always going to be there, but I. Talk a little bit about, you know, I know that you work with a lot of parents one-on-one, that you do webinars, that you do summits. You had one recently. You know, all of those kinds of speaking to larger groups. But a lot of your work is one-on-one because every family and every situation is different. So talk a little bit about what someone could expect if they were to talk to you about helping them with their family situation.

Elisabeth:

Sure, thank you for asking. We start with a getting to know you call and that's really what it is. I don't do any coaching on that call. It's just an opportunity for you to paint the picture of what is parenting feeling like right now in your home and what are you wanting it to be.

Tracie:

Mm-hmm.

Elisabeth:

And if I feel I can be of service, then I, you know, ask parents permission to share how do I work with them and. If I don't feel I can be of service, I say to me it's sounding like this is the kind of professional you need. And if they are, you know, somewhere in my circle and I can give them resources, I give them resources of a concrete nature. And if it's more, this is the kind of professional you need to be looking for. Sometimes that's.

Tracie:

Yeah, that's, and so what came to my mind was, you know that because you're not,'cause you're not a therapist'cause you didn't do the MFT situation. You know, a lot of times people will come to therapy when there's a problem versus what I'm hearing you say is maybe parents are saying, you know, it's not great. And I'd like things to, to turn a corner in this direction. It's not like it's a problem, one problem necessarily, and maybe it is, but in a general sense, like it's just not going the way that I thought it would. I would want it to go, or, you know, maybe it

Elisabeth:

should go well, I, I do have to say my most favorite clients are my proactive ones.

Tracie:

Yeah.

Elisabeth:

And those are the people who are, I had a, I had a client who had a 16 month old and they realized they were coming up to the terrible twos and they were thinking, you know, I mean, we used to say there's no manual. Unfortunately there are. Way too many manuals now. And so, right, that's part of the overwhelm, right? Part of the overwhelm is that you sit down to answer a seemingly simple question and you get 18 different opinions that all seem to be expressed in language that says, if you don't do this, you're gonna ruin your kid forever. And so instead of saying oh, that's empowering'cause I have information, now I have more overwhelm and, and to do it. And so. The biggest part of coaching for me then is to get all the puzzle pieces on the table. That's a big part of it because families are unique and all the different personalities are unique. And then alongside that, I really want to know what are, what are the values that parents are operating under? And that's where we begin to find a match, right? That's where we begin to say, I'm going to connect these. Values with these parenting approaches. Mm-hmm. So I don't put myself, I don't call myself a gentle parent, a conscious parent even a positive parent because I really want to start with the parents that I have in front of me and who they are and where they are,

Tracie:

and

Elisabeth:

what's important to them. What's important to them. And what's gonna work for them? So most parents sign up for my three month coaching package. It's 10 sessions. Over those 10 sessions. We do a lot of immediate problem solving in the beginning. Well, we do values work first, then a lot of immediate, like where, where are the, the, the throbs pain points. And then things usually begin to get better and. That's when we can begin to go deeper in what's your master plan? Well, who, who's the adult you're raising? Who do you want at 21? Mm-hmm. What are the qualities and characteristics that you would like to have a boss brag to you about? We love, you know, oh man, if I had 10 Rios Rios, we would be off and running because these are the qualities that Reus shows up with, and. Then you back plan and you say, great, how am I for training and nurturing and focusing on those qualities? Yeah. As I raise my kids. So at the end of 10 weeks, I don't just want the immediate problems plan solved, I want you to have your master plan.

Tracie:

Yeah, I love that. And you know, I feel very fortunate that I found coaching when my kids were young and it changed a lot of my thought processes. In raising them since I was a solo parent by then to to know that ultimately the goal was to help them to thrive. Right. It wasn't to help them succeed. It was to help them to thrive. Yeah. And a lot of people don't have that perspective. I know I didn't have it before finding coaching for myself, and so I love the idea, like I can just keep imagining myself had I never. Lost my husband, had I never been a coach. And being that kind of corporate queen that I was on the road to becoming and thinking very differently than the way that I think today. And how that would have shaped the kids and how they grew up and yeah, experiences that I would've given them or not given them as a result and everything. So, if a parent is open to that. Without having the experience of having a coach, I hope that they can hear this and know that, that that's the benefit, is the, the sitting down and, and like really thinking about what it is that you're trying to do as opposed to the things that you have been told you should do.'Cause it can be, yeah,

Elisabeth:

and, and there's all the shoulds. That's a piece of it. And honestly, a big piece of it is just that. A lot of times we're running around like chickens with our heads cut off. Yep. And we're parenting by the seat of our pants.

Tracie:

Absolutely. And it's understandable without, without having that like strategy underneath it, you're just living day to day. Yes, yes. You know, we don't need 20 years of survival mode for these kids. Please

Elisabeth:

help me get through bedtime. Please help me get to Friday. Please help me get to summer. Yes. And you

Tracie:

know. That's really too bad. It's a, it's really unfortunate. And, and it doesn't, and that's the thing is it doesn't have to be that way. People don't recognize that it can be different until maybe, until something goes wrong or maybe until they just all of a sudden have been opened up to a new way of thinking about it. And they, someone mentions. The work that you do, or someone mentions how something has changed for them and therefore they're like, oh, I never even thought that that could be different. Let me think that for myself. So it's, it's

Elisabeth:

what a gift and it's, I mean, it's an investment in time and money for sure. And yet it's like, you know what, what? But it's our kids. It's worth it. What doesn't get put on your gravestone? Right. You are never going to say. That, I'm sorry. I spent time. I didn't, you know, that time we spent with Elisabeth really wasn't, wasn't worthwhile, right? And I do have a really good guarantee. I say that if at the end of showing up for making the appointment, showing up for the appointment, doing the homework at the end of three sessions, I'm not your person. You're not feeling it. I refund the whole package. Very generous. And the reason that I give that guarantee is because if it's not a good fit, you are not gonna do the work. Yep. And if you're not doing the work, then you are not fulfilling my mission, which is to transform families and to bring peace to the world, one family at a time. So I wanna release you and I want you to go find whoever your person is. Yep. In 10 years, it's been two people. And in both those cases there was one spouse who was really heels dug in Yeah. About not wanting to do the work.

Tracie:

Yeah. Which makes total sense.'cause you know it,'cause it is, you have to be vulnerable as a parent to take the information and to take it not as criticism Yeah. But as an opportunity for. And, and all of the good things. Yeah. Well, my friend, I know that we could just keep talking for a whole other hour, but, but that just means we're gonna have to do another episode sometime in the future because you know, what I really want parents to hear from, from hearing you today, in this episode today is that they, that there is, there's hope, I guess would be one thing, but really it's, you know, it's, it's. I want the parents to know that they can create what they want with their family, but I also just want people to know women who are listening entrepreneurs, to know leaders, that taking the leap towards something that you know is what you like, you're meant. To be doing be, even if you've been doing something different and it's been a long time and it's how do you give up the income and the this, and how do you make the change that making the change is worth it.

Elisabeth:

Yes.

Tracie:

Even though you know how to be an entrepreneur here, you're 10 years later still helping parents, one family at a time.

Elisabeth:

That's right. And statistically not that many new businesses last 10 years.

Tracie:

Absolutely

Elisabeth:

right. And so, you know, it does. What it says is that even when things get rocky and get hard, then you have that coaching session which lights you on fire and reminds you of. The impact that you're having on the world and the difference that you're making in the world. Mm-hmm. And that's what gets you back to, okay, it's fine. It's gonna work itself out. Yep.

Tracie:

I love it. Well, I hope that if people are in a place where this is helpful to them and the work that you do is helpful to them, that they will reach out. We'll put all of your info and everything of course, in the show notes. I just wanna thank you for your time today. It's always a gift to get to talk to you. I feel like my cup is awful today with your joyfulness, and I wanna thank you for being on the podcast. I love you so much. We'll talk soon.