Into the Light Podcast
Mediums Melanie Smith and Laura Hillkirk are sharing their weird every day lives with you. From spirit encounters to their healing journeys that led them to the place they are today. Together they will discuss healing, haunted locations, traveling as a medium, energy work, fairies and so much more. Join these besties as they share it all.
Into the Light Podcast
Energy Work, What is it?
Ever wondered why energy work is often met with skepticism or humor? By sharing our personal stories, we invite you to join us on this fascinating exploration of Reiki and intuitive healing, fields that defy conventional understanding yet offer profound clarity and relief. Through anecdotes and experiences, we shed light on how clearing emotional and energetic blockages can transform both physical and emotional well-being, and we advocate for introducing children to these empowering practices, likening the experience to discovering a bit of everyday magic.
Listen as we navigate the mystical and spiritual aspects of energetic healing, where angelic presences and spiritual guides play essential roles in the process. With unique insights into the practices of Reiki, this episode delves into the transformative power of energy, from channeling elemental forces to facilitating the release of deeply ingrained trauma. We also highlight powerful spiritual connections, notably with the energy of Jesus, exploring how these experiences transcend religious boundaries and infuse healing sessions with unconditional love and consciousness.
Our journey through energy work also reveals remarkable stories of miraculous events, from overcoming fertility challenges to the removal of negative energy attachments. Through personal and client experiences, we underscore the mysterious and often life-changing outcomes of this practice. By emphasizing the importance of intuition and finding the right practitioner, we celebrate the potential of energy work as a complementary force alongside traditional healthcare, sharing our excitement for ongoing exploration in this transformative field.
welcome back. Hey guys, we are coming back to talk about energy work. What is it? That's the famous question, that's the most asked question I get what is that? So you know, we, when I tell people what I do for a living, um, it's always what it's what Reiki, what, what is it? And I always say yeah, reiki. So my at my shop here, one of my friends did the renovation of the shop and, to surprise me, he got me like a reserved parking spot sign and the sign says reserved parking for a reeky, leaky, cheeky checker. Because it's like nobody can say Reiki, or they're like reeky, leaky. You know what are you doing? Yeah, reiki, which it's funny. You know you call it that. I usually just say energy work now, or I do intuitive healing because I feel like what I'm doing is beyond Reiki at this point. But people need a foundation or something to go off of.
Speaker 2:Well, they need, like, an understanding, like let me compartmentalize this into a category that I can get, yeah, and I think both of you and I are kind of doing things that are outside the scope of what Reiki would be considered absolutely, and I feel like it sounds so made up.
Speaker 1:it does you know when I tell people well, you're going to come in and I'm going to do a healing session and I'm not going to lay a single hand on you, but you're going to feel so good and relaxed and I mean, I get it. It sounds hokey.
Speaker 2:It sounds like some kind of spiritual bootcamp you go to, where you pay thousands of dollars to go meditate from some Pinterest board that somebody looked up online. That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and all Reiki practitioners or energy workers, just like in any field or job line, are not created equal, and there are some people that do it well and there are some people that shouldn't be doing it at all, and there's a grand scope of that. But it's something that you have to experience to fully understand. I do believe that. So, even as I'm going to, you know we're going to talk about this today. If you've never experienced energy work, you need to to fully understand it, because we can tell you all about it. But it's something you truly have to experience and it is mind blowing, you know. I even know for myself. The first time I had energy work done, I was's. It's something you truly have to experience and it is mind blowing, you know, I even know for myself. The first time I had energy work done, I was like whoa, whoa. I was the first time in my life that my body had ever felt that light in my entire life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you also don't even realize the clarity that you don't have until you get Reiki work done. Because even if you don't have a racing mind or clogged thoughts, when you get energy work done and some of those blockages are removed, the ease of your thought patterns is amazing. Like I never really consider myself to have racing thoughts, I mean sometimes I do, depending on how my anxiety is, but overall not really. But with Reiki, the first time I ever got Reiki was with you and I think I could actually think I could hear myself and I never really had that before and I was like, holy shit, like this is this did something.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's it's something everybody needs. I'm a firm believer in that.
Speaker 1:I think if everybody could, if this was something that was mainstream, that was implemented into life, just like taking your kid to a pediatrician or the chiropractor we would have a much different world, with adults that can regulate emotions and understand energy and you know all those things and I see a lot of kids I I have almost as many kid clients as I do adults and so, um, I love when the kids come in here and a lot of them will call me Harry Potter or things like that, because I have magic hands and my favorite thing to do is attune children, because when I can attune a child to Reiki, this like magical thing comes over them, where they feel empowered because they can understand energy. So the you know what is energy work. You know we're all made of energy. We all have this chakra system. So I highly encourage you.
Speaker 1:We're not going to go through all the chakras, but there's these centers on the body and it's a little bit ridiculous, like when I teach Reiki and Melanie teaches Reiki classes as well and she knows the way I've taught it because she took those Reiki classes it's in she she sees that as well where the traditional teachings and Reiki and we're attuned to Usui Reiki. So Dr Usui it's a Japanese healing modality taught about these energy centers and there are seven main. But, as her and I know, there are so many more energy points in the body than just the seven chakras. Um, so so many.
Speaker 1:And so the idea is you know you're made of energy and the way I see this is, every single time something happens in life trauma, grief, sadness, anything you know heavy and kind of sticky and slow as far as energy is concerned it creates a blockage in the body and if you never get that cleared out, they accumulate and they can manifest into physical ailments Most physical, into physical ailments. Most physical ailments within the body are connected to something typically emotional or energetic in some way, absolutely. And it's not like I'm not saying energy work can cure every illness or or an illness at all, but I'm telling you we have seen it where somebody experiences a physical, maybe a pain in their back or something like that, and we're able to process something that happened and it is removed entirely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they never feel it again.
Speaker 1:They'll never feel it again, it will never come back. And a lot of times when somebody comes in and there's something chronic because a lot of times people will come to energy works like the last resort, it's the last place. They go in desperation and I've had people come in with various physical ailments and it's been going on for X amount of years. And the first thing I'll say is what is your first memory of when this physical pain started, or this, whatever this thing is? And then they'll tell me and I'll say okay, what was happening in your life at that time? Was there a divorce? Was there, um, you know, was there something emotional? I want to know what emotionally was going on in your life. And almost every time there's something.
Speaker 2:This is the way that your body's processing that energy and if you don't express it and get it out and heal from it. You know this is scientifically proven. There it's not all woo woo Um.
Speaker 1:Reiki is implemented in in pretty much every major hospital um across the country. Uh, cleveland clinic, you go to university of Michigan university university hospitals they are. Many of them will offer Reiki in their cancer wing because studies do show that Reiki does eliminate and ease pain and so that's something that's in, you know, a medical hospital and so that's it's kind of helping us practitioners to where it's this more well known thing you know, and anytime somebody backs it with science, I'm to the place in life and I know Melanie is too where it's this more well-known thing you know, and anytime somebody backs it with science, I'm to the place in life and I know Melanie is too where it's like we don't, we don't care anymore what people think. I mean just whatever people to know Right.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and the first time I ever really witnessed Reiki was when my mom was in hospice, because hospice offers it. So she, there was a volunteer going around asking if anybody would want Reiki and my mom at that time was having like severe back pain for whatever reason. She never had it prior to going into hospice and then all of a sudden she had this back pain and the Reiki practitioner came in there. She didn't make us leave, she did Reiki on my mom and my mom kept saying, oh, that feels so good, and she didn't have her hands on her and it was a really amazing thing to witness because it gave my mom some sort of physical relief at a time where she should be more focusing on transition and not in pain. So even with all the morphine and everything else, she had the back pain. The Reiki practitioner was able to give her some comfort before she passed away, which was really a beautiful thing to see. So I started looking into it then and then I met you and everything kind of catapulted from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I had no clue what Reiki was. I hadn't heard of energy work or anything, until I had a reading. I had a reading and this medium was like you're a medium and you're going to do Reiki, but you need to get Reiki and you need to have it cleaned out. And I was like I don't know what you're talking about. So I just took notes and when I looked it up and then finally went in, I was like holy moly. I mean, when I tell you it changed my life, it changed my life, it changed my life in big ways, I it's, it's solely responsible for my, my healing journey and why I'm where I am now.
Speaker 1:Um, I felt like it went quickly because once I got like this, the crap off, it was just like a whole new world opened for me and I you know we witnessed that a lot in the people that we help. Some people need one or two sessions and some see you for years and, you know, continue on that journey. But for whatever reason, as practitioners, I feel like we pop into people's lives and help with what they need, and I feel like everybody's journey is a different length and in a way that they go. But I don't know't know, we've we've encountered some crazy things within sessions and, oh gosh, I think I was wanting to talk about this topic is, you know, this is what we do for a living, and me especially. I don't do readings or anything anymore, and so this is really. This is what I do for a living.
Speaker 2:I you do readings during the Reiki session because you offer.
Speaker 2:I mean you do intuitive healing, but spiritual guidance also. Like you, you are connecting and you have talked with departed loved ones during sessions, even though you don't say you will. Sometimes you can't help it because they pop in and that's like, and I think the way that you and I have, and if I'm speaking out of turn for you, let me like, and I think the way that you and I have, and if I'm speaking out of turn for you, let me know. But I think the way you and I have it set up during Reiki sessions, it's that no dead people can come in unless they have something to do with the healing. Yes, that's correct, and then my guides will let them through. So there's been a couple times I've had you know a husband you know, or a wife, or you know a mom or dad pop in because that person so grief stricken, they need to connect with them in some way and then they help with the Reiki session, which is really cool to see. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that that's exactly it. I don't just sit down and just talk to the dead people, but it's like, yes, I'm always channeling, I'm using my intuition, and for me, if I'm going to communicate with the spirit world, it's going to be for the benefit of that healing session. It's not going to be for them to ask where grandma's jewelry is or whatever. It's going to be about what we're working on. And I find a lot of times people come in and they're like I'm going to work on this and spirit sort of takes over that session and we end up going in a completely different direction, because sometimes you're coming in and saying I need to heal my grief, and while that's true, it might be, oh, we had to pivot to something from your childhood in order for you to be able to emotionally process that grief in the way that you need to. And so that's how energy work.
Speaker 2:You know, these intuitive healing sessions, it's like a woven oh yeah, if you think about Shrek with the onion, it's peeling back layers and layers and layers, and that's what. That's what healing is. So it's like you a lot of times, there isn't one specific place to start. You just have to start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's all over the place. It's messy and chaotic and I've just learned to really have no expectation. Coming into a healing session, I'm just being led by intuition and while we always talk about there's so much that's similar with you and I, I feel like there's a lot of ways our abilities in our intuitive healing, much that's similar with you and I. I feel like there's a lot of uh ways, our abilities in our intuitive healing side that are similar. Um, I feel like what and who we're working with, frequencies we pull from, are completely different. Um, so would you, I would love for you to tell them, you know, in a healing session, what are you working with? Who are you working with? Like, typically, spirit wise, like, are your guides helping you? Is it their guides? Tell me how, like your?
Speaker 2:sessions work Usually like I mean. Of course it's different for every single person, but usually during sessions I'm working with the person's guides, so I'll ask them to step forward so that they can give me some information and lead me. Angelic presences they're angels, because everybody has angels with them. Whether it's one, two, 10, 20, I don't know, it depends on who you are. There's always some sort of angelic presence when I do Reiki. So I do see a lot of angels are super tall seven, nine feet tall. Sometimes they're just big energy and they'll help me a lot. Especially, I do tend to attract people who have more. Sometimes they have attachments, darker attachments. So I do feel like I'm protected a lot by angelic beings.
Speaker 2:And then I also work with my guides, who are Celtic witches and Master Wu. My Celtic witches are very I love them. That's my. You know, coven, say what you want about it, I don't care. I don't see witches as being negative unless you're practicing something negative. But my Celtic witches, they always come. They always have hoods on like not creepy hoods, because I can see their faces. They all have red hair, which is funny to me. They are always very calm and they are always very intentional when they talk to me, sometimes they get frustrated with me and it's kind of funny. And then there's Master Wu, who's an Ascended Master that I work with quite often. What country of origin he is from? He almost seems Tibetan, but not Tibetan, buddhist but not Buddhist. He kind of encompasses all of that energy and he also helps assist during certain Reiki sessions. Not all the time he's really picky. He is picky, yeah, but he's my favorite of yours.
Speaker 1:He's definitely. He helps me, you of yours, he's definitely anybody he did he did you.
Speaker 2:I mean he, he helps me by helping you, help me. Yes, he's a good guy. If you guys have ever seen kill bill, he looks like the, the, the master, with the long white beard and long hair that he like kind of flips over. That's what Master Wu looks like to me. But those are really mainly who I work with energetically, that I get information from, and it's like my Reiki has changed from very standard textbook Reiki into using a lot of different types of light work. I do use a lot of earth magic in my sessions, so I'll pull from dirt and water and air. For some reason. I'm very good at channeling water. I've just been good at it.
Speaker 1:I find this interesting because, as you're talking about it, even the terminology that you use, it's it's different than like me, because of the, the frequencies that we pull from and who, just who we are. But, like you're saying earth magic, and I'm thinking, yeah, I work with the elements, like the magic component is because of your coven and that, that witchy side to you and it's like, yeah, I'm, you know the same thing where you know like the elemental, so I love that earth magic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just say earth magic, cause that's what they always tell me.
Speaker 1:It is earth magic to you and, yes, the energy and the wisdom and the, you know where you're channeling that information from, which is huge.
Speaker 2:So when you say so, you said what elemental.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I pull from the elements. Um, you know, but I pull from a lot of different things, but, oh, sure, yeah, the earth element. So you know, I feel like I started in traditional Reiki and quickly found out it was awkward and weird and it didn't work for me. No, I was taught to physically place your hands on people, because Reiki is the the act of hands on energy healing, and I learned very quickly that my hands above the body allowed me to feel that much more. But I'm a puller.
Speaker 1:Yes, you are, I'm a big puller, and so I learned maybe it was pretty early on, like three to four months into me practicing Reiki I learned that I was seeing, I see trauma in the body. It's sort of like if you went in for a CT scan and they injected you with dye, you know, so it lights up certain things. That's how my eyes work. It's like I'm able to look across the body and trauma lights up and I can see it. Look across the body and trauma lights up and I can see it, and I see not only where it is in the body, but I'm also channeling how I am to remove it, and sometimes that's just me pulling it out, and other times I have to guide somebody through something in their memory or mind in order to loosen that, and they have to be a part of that removal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the pulling out of things has always been so trippy to me, because you did a session on me one time and my whole right arm was literally convulsing. Yes, I could not stop it from shaking and like as a medium, like both of us get clogged up because we're constantly around dead energy, and that's what was happening. So for some reason, I had a ton of dead energy stuck in my right arm and it was clogging me up and Laura's pulling this out. And when I say I was shaking, like I was, like am I having a seizure right now? Cause that's what felt like my arm was.
Speaker 2:I could not stop it and it shook for like what a good minute or two and just kept pulling out like residual energy from spirits that I have communicated with people I've worked with. It just all got pulled out and then when she was done, it was like my arm stopped. It was the wildest thing because I just it's amazing.
Speaker 1:That happens a lot. So I've had people, um like, I've had people old, like I had a man that was in, that was in his sixties, obviously never had energy, work, a lot of, a lot of childhood trauma, life trauma, all these things, and I started to work on him and immediately he couldn't stop his bodies, it was like his legs were contracting. It was actually the kind of lifting up, his rear end was coming up off the table Cause he was in discomfort, his arms were moving and you know when that happens a lot and I have to tell people, um, you know, breathe, you're safe. It's going to be a momentarily while I start, like clearing that stuff out, um, I, I now tell people before I mean, there's times. You're going to come in for a session. Not everyone's going to twitch and convulse, um, but there are going to be times and I am a puller and so it can, you will. There are many people that will feel what I'm doing. You know your eyes are closed and I'll go and remove something and they can feel that in it, like I might be removing something in your stomach, in your solar plexus, but as I'm pulling it out, where it's coming from could be your leg. Yeah, the tentacle of that cord might be in your leg and people be like I felt something come up my leg and out my stomach, and so it's just once I figured out I was seeing that and pulling. The best way I can describe it now is it's like my hand, between the seeing and the way I feel, my hand will glide over the body and it like is like it stops where it needs to, and then it's just like I just know what to do and I've come to find or learn.
Speaker 1:I guess that that is shamanic healing, because I'm able to go into the body and I'm going into the past and I'm you know, I'm healing inner child. It's a very difficult thing to explain but, um, I'm a puller. I pull a lot of things. I work with a lot of light on the violet flame. I'm I'm working with that, that very violet light, gold light.
Speaker 1:I work with a lot of biblical people. Jesus is a big one for me. He shows up for certain sessions with certain people and that's not like, oh, there's just only certain people deserving of Jesus, it's about a frequency. It's who resonates with Jesus energy. There are some people that aren't going to resonate with that energy. So when you're in a healing session with me, I'm pulling from what you need and the energy that you need is going to be very different each time.
Speaker 1:A big one is Native American. That culture, you know I've talked about this in many episodes for whatever reason, which I know my past lives I really resonate with Native American culture and it finds me, it finds me all the time, and people with of Native American descent, through the birds, I really resonate with spirit, animal medicine. Animals leave me things that I can use in sessions and their spirit medicine is powerful. I use the spirit medicine of an eagle in some sessions the haw, um, it's just endless. There's just tons and tons of things. I've had people then where I've used, um, the, the blue Heron.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I remember you telling me about that.
Speaker 1:I use that spirit medicine and I kind of have like my little medicine bag of things that I use here and, and afterwards I always tell them you know I use the spirit medicine and you will now be connected to this bird because you are, you are a part of that bird now because of that spirit medicine. And you know they'll tell me oh my gosh, I saw this. I see this bird now everywhere. I had one that went and got a tattoo you know that of the feather of the bird that we used and you know, using that, that medicine. So, um, that's how session is for me, and none of them are the same. It's like people come in and I'm not always digging out trauma or doing a shamanic session. There's some people that come in that need and it could be somebody where I've done a lot of really deep spiritual work with. But they came in that day and their guides are like what they need is to relax. So I'm taking off very little. It's like their body needs to feel calm. And then there's other people where there's a physical thing and you know, I think we're going to talk a little bit about that too. Oh, my ear just plugged, I started ringing. But you know there's the emotional side. But we also have helped with physical and there's been a lot of physical things that happened and so I I have a lot showing up.
Speaker 1:What was different for me was a lot of the biblical people. Um, you know, I grew up in the Methodist church and had strayed from that quite a bit. People from the Bible find me. I get messages from Jesus and that more religious sector a lot I get a ton of. No matter how much I try to pull from that, I'm always brought back and I've learned to not put a label on it, whether it's religion or spiritual. I'm just a very deeply spiritual person but I am very much so and you know that because there's be times I would call you and say, oh my gosh, this thing happened and I'm always crying. So whenever somebody biblical sort of steps in, there really is this frequency and high vibration, just like with Jesus. That is just this, it's powerful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've always thought that was interesting, because I don't have a religious connection at all. I didn't grow up in the church. My mom was very angry at the church and then she went back to church and then she was mad at the church again. So it was just like never grew up in it. And I've seen Jesus maybe three times that I can think of three or four times, and because I didn't really know if Jesus was a real person, I was very conflicted with that because it just didn't.
Speaker 1:Was he showing up for you or was it in a session?
Speaker 2:for somebody else, yeah, but I was like, holy shit, am I seeing this? Because I think I called you. Yeah, and I was in tears because I'd never been hit with so much loving energy in my life that the way his energy comes through is extremely loving and emotional and it I feel like I got healed somehow, just having the session with somebody just by his presence. But the way I see him is he's always has roses with him. I use a lot of flower magic and herbal magic when I do Reiki sessions, so whenever I see him, he usually has roses.
Speaker 2:I had a session with a woman and he showed up with roses and he had me cover her body in roses and then put this gold light around her and he stayed the whole time. It was really overwhelming and I, you know, I called you because I thought I was going crazy. I was like did? Did I? Did I see that? Like, is that cause? I thought, why would he ever talk to me if he was real? Because I've done so many screwed up things in my life, like I'm not perfect. But it just like it just made me start crying about it now, cause it just made me feel like, oh, you know what, even though you did those types of things, you're still worthy to help other people, because it's not about you.
Speaker 1:That's what your ego says, you know and I can remember sitting in my driveway and I'm gonna get emotional calling you because I had I had a session that I was doing on somebody that was really, really, really sick, really sick, and um, he had come in and was helping me help remove some of her pain and um, I had had a dream.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you about the dream, and earlier, but, um, I remember he had given me like a message and um, I thought I was hearing things like I didn't think, cause, just like you, it's this. Jesus's energy, when he comes in, is the I don't even know how to describe it other than just the most pure light and energy. But I don't know if you remember that. I remember I was sitting in my car in the driveway and I had called you because he it was. The message was along the lines of, like you know, I have work for you to do and like me needing to do it and me not feeling worthy of doing it, and I had called you and I was like bawling and you were like channeling a message for me, basically, and I was just so emotional and um, yeah, it's hard, but the thing I've come to know about Jesus is, um, I kind of love that this conversation has gone to this place too is. He is just a regular person.
Speaker 2:He's not tied to a religion, and that's what I learned.
Speaker 1:It's this consciousness and he's. He's not asking you again. I'm getting so emotional right now it's because I can. He's not asking you Again. I'm getting so emotional right now it's because I can literally feel that energy. He's not asking you to worship him because good person and not meaning you're going to be perfect. That's not what being a good human is Like. Whenever he shows up, it's this like there's no judgment. So, like Jesus, energy is not judgmental. It's just saying I want you to be better than you were yesterday and I want you to love everything and do your best, cause that's where I think.
Speaker 2:That's where I was coming from, a place where religion was shaming. It's a shaming type of atmosphere and no offense to anybody who goes to church. Not all churches are created equal, I will say that. So this isn't a broad, blanket statement, but from my experiences most churches, the way that they give sermons is to shame you because you'll never be good enough to meet God's expectations, because we will always make a mistake. There is always going to be some type of sin.
Speaker 2:So I just functioned under this. You know, I don't like religion. I never have. I'm more spiritual. I don't gravitate towards religion. So I'm like, well, jesus and God, that's just not for me and I spent a large majority of my life believing that. And then, once I started working in this field and working with my guides, and then having a visit from Jesus who saw me as nothing more than somebody who could help the person that I was working with, to me that was an honor, because it's like here, I am imperfect in every single way and he thought it was okay for him to use me to help somebody else yeah and it was like validating in so many different scenarios and I don't see him as much as you do, um, and I've seen, like I said, I've only seen him like three or four times.
Speaker 2:Four might be a stretch, it might be three that I can recall um, but every time I see him, the energy is so uplifting, the room almost gets bright. Sometimes I get lightheaded, um, I definitely get overcome with emotion every single time and I just move. It's like I'm not even thinking about what I'm doing. I'm, I'm literally just moving, and usually the person that is with me they're like did something happen? And I'm like, yes, just hold on a second. And some people I'll say, hey, jesus showed up. And some people I won't say anything because I know that they won't believe it.
Speaker 1:I tell I know when I'm to tell people and those people have felt a very deeply spiritual, profound experience within the session. Um, and it's the same. And I really found it was interesting how you were saying you know, Jesus used me, yeah, Well, this thing and that, but that's what he does with everybody in this, in this way, and it is, it's the most profound energy. You know, there's a lot. Jesus does show up, a lot for me and things, and typically it's physically healing a body in some way and a lot of times when I when that, when that steps in, I'm physically touching somebody. And I don't physically touch people. Often it's when I'm intuitively being led to and physically touching, meaning there's a part of their body and I'll always say I am going to lay my hands on on you in the spot and it's typically something physical is happening, that that we're trying to heal, physical is happening, that we're trying to heal.
Speaker 1:But I've also had Peter from the Bible is a really big one and again, I did grow up in religion. I don't have in the church I grew up in. I've never felt shamed or anything and even currently I have been invited into the church to do many things I've been a part of giving communion, giving Reiki, while the pastor was giving communion. I recently just did a funeral. A lot of things that have been very crazy with religion, where I feel like most churches would condemn me.
Speaker 1:So I've been lucky that way, but I've had to lean on. I have a friend that's a pastor and I'll have to lean on her and send her a message, like I just had this person show up and it was this thing Can you tell me, like in the Bible, what, what this represented, and things like that? Um and so that's been really neat. You know just the different people that have come through and um, and then the native Americans. I, you know, I talked about it in the episode about when we went to Masa Verde, but I've always had my, you know this very wise medicine woman that shows up, and when she shows up, I mean she's speaking to me in her native tongue and I just somehow know I'm just going and I'm doing, and she'll be like you need this feather and you need this, and tells me what to do with my hands.
Speaker 1:And and again, the person that's on the receiving end of these what I would call the more deeply shamanic healing sessions versus a Reiki healing session that I might do still with somebody they're feeling something profound afterwards. You know these are sessions where people get up afterwards and go. I don't know what you just did, but it changed my life. My life has never been the same, since meaning I'll get a message saying I feel so at peace. I've let go of X, y, z, whatever that thing was, and you know we have those. It's like there is this scale, this wide range of where these sessions fall on in terms of how deep are we going?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's you know it's definitely individualistic. I mean, there's been where you can, you're able, to remove pain. That's just pain. It's just physical pain. There's no trauma tied to it. It's just, you know, your body sucks and this is what it's doing Right, and Reiki is able, and it doesn't always remove everything, and I mean we're pretty clear with that.
Speaker 2:Like I wish I could put my hands on people and just heal them, just to help. I wish that was the case, but it doesn't always go in that direction. But for some people it relieves it in one session and it's a physical pain, not tied to any trauma, which has always been wild to me. I had a gentleman come in who had neck, shoulder pain. He's always had it and I had one session with him and that was like his main focus and it was I'm like there's nothing tied to past lives, there's nothing tied to trauma. I'm like this is so odd.
Speaker 2:So I just started working with it and putting light, energy into it and doing what his guides were telling me to do. And he messaged me like a month later and he's like I haven't had pain since and I'm like that's awesome. I'm so glad that it worked, because I told him, with chronic illnesses you might have to come back more than once. I don't know, and for him it was one time and it was gone. Other people, they have to be consistent, it's, and I don't know why that is.
Speaker 1:Well, and I think you and I've had conversations on RN, which I'm sure, like there's a lot of professions that deal with that where you're like, you know, why are some people okay? You know, why can a doctor save one person's life, yeah, and not another? And there's times where I struggle too with why, why can't I take this away? And then you got somebody else where a miracle happens and, um, you know that's timelines and and what's destined for somebody, but it's, it's hard, like it's hard. It's hard seeing so many people in pain. We see a lot of people suffering, whether it's physically or emotionally, and, um, but yeah, I mean taking that pain away. I had, um, so I had somebody come in and she was not a client and if and if you don't follow on my page or whatever, like you can't just come and see me. I don't take any new clients at this time. So to see me, you have to book a pop-up and to it's almost like I'll hear people say I've been trying to get a pop-up for five years. It's like the luck of the draw, did you? Did you get on Facebook to see this moment? Okay, so to get in here as not a client, it just a lot of things have to align for you.
Speaker 1:And this woman was not a client, but her sister was a client and she came in and we were doing our session and we were talking during the session. That's the other thing. Some sessions I don't talk at all, it's quiet, and other sessions I'm talking a lot, and so that's very different. But she had mentioned she goes. Oh my gosh, my sister is close to her due date, she's pregnant and the baby's breech and they want to do this horrific procedure. You know where they kind of go up in and they try and move the baby and it just sounded like horrible pain and she's telling me about this.
Speaker 1:She goes, she was due. So this woman was due like within the week, I'll say, like she was like in seven days that the baby wasn't. They did it. If they didn't ultrasound and then they couldn't move the baby, then she was going to have to have a C-section. And so out of my mouth flies oh have her, come in here, I'll move the baby. Like intuitively this flies out of my mouth and immediately after I said it I was like you are such a dumbass, why do you think?
Speaker 1:you can move a baby. I've never. I mean, I never even crossed my mind, but it just flooded my mouth Yep, have her come in. Yep, give her my number. I'm just, I'll see her, I will see her, like tomorrow, you know, like I will get her in and, um, immediately regretting what I said, and so this woman ends up coming in in my table. There I have a back that sits up and she's very pregnant, obviously she's about to give birth, and I sit her upright and I had set intentions in the room beforehand and I was really quiet and I told her I'm not going to speak Like I'm going to be really working. And I told her I'm not going to speak Like I'm going to be really working. And I went somewhere, like I went somewhere during this session and I just remember focusing that energy and I started kind of moving the baby and I can again I feel like my mind works like an ultrasound.
Speaker 1:So my favorite thing ever is to work on pregnant clients. I love it, the babies, my clients after they have their babies, because I've formed this connection with them spiritually when they're pregnant, when they come in, the babies recognize my energy and it's a really cool thing to see. So I kind of see I can tell where the head is in the butt. You know the baby when I rake them, like in the, in the belly, so I kind of scan her and look for like where are the toes, where's the head? You know, whatever, yes, definitely breach baby, baby's not head down. And so I just got to work and I focused on the little baby booty and I just kept raking and I never touched her stomach, I never physically touched her body, but using the energy and in this gold light, I just kept very subtly pushing, pushing, pushing that baby. And then it was probably eight to 10 minutes of me really working this energy and all of a sudden and she was a very thin woman and so it was like this little basketball, like I could see her belly in this black shirt, you just saw her stomach, like an alien was moving in there, and all of a sudden, and she looked like she was going to throw up Because the baby.
Speaker 1:At this time I just did this one last shove and it went bloop and the baby flipped and I was like, first of all, are you going to be sick? And she was like I think I'm okay. And so she's breathing, um, and she goes, I think I think the baby flipped. I was like, oh, you could. There was no doubt that that's what had happened. And then when I went back into scan the baby, I could tell the baby was head down, the feet were up.
Speaker 1:Um, she ended up going in to the hospital. She calls the office and says I went to this lady, she flipped the baby and they were kind of like huh, whatever. And so she goes in, she tells her doctor this and the doctor was like that's no, like the baby just did it on its own or whatever. And she goes I was in this room with this woman and she was doing what she was doing and I, you know, I felt, when I felt the baby flip and whatever. So the doctor was like playing it off, but it was such a cool thing. Um, I haven't had to do that since. But again, it was just really funny how I was like yeah, I'll do it. And then immediately it was like you are so stupid you can't do this. But I mean spirit knew, you know, and and my client brought that up because I was supposed to help this woman out Am I supposed to help every woman that has a breech baby. No, that woman I was supposed to help.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, cause they'll put. They'll put people in your path that need help and like we've, you know we've both been, you know, done sessions for free or like took people on that we didn't intend to do and it's just part of it's part of it. So, like, did she so did? Has she been in since she's had? I never saw her again.
Speaker 1:I never saw her again and I don't think she was super into like energy work or like into like I again, I think it was one of those people that was like this is my last resort, I need this baby out, I don't want to have a c section kind of a thing. And I never saw her again. She sent me a picture of the baby that was nice text where it was like thank you so much and I mean we had there was an acknowledgement and awareness of what had happened between us. But no, I never. I never saw her again.
Speaker 2:That's so interesting. So it's like when you get people that come in for you know, you know having like pregnancy issues, or you know fertility, whatever you want to call it. Do you know the ones you can help and the ones you can't? Because I always seem like I know this person's not meant to have a child. Have you ever had it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. They're meant to be a mother in a different capacity than what they're envisioning. Yeah, they're also children that need mothers, that they, their birth mother, can't give them that life, and so there are certain children that need mothers, that they, their birth mother, can't give them that life, and so there are certain people that are meant for that. But there are, and I can always tell in those situations when it comes to fertility because of who's showing up and the energy they're having me use. So there's this like womb clean out. I see babies that are supposed to come earth side as these gold balls Like I can see these gold balls that are kind of over people's heads in session when they, when they're sitting talking to me or whatever, or if I'm in a session, I see a gold ball and it's like I know that's a spirit that is going to be in the womb, that's going to come earth side.
Speaker 2:Oh interesting, are they always gold balls?
Speaker 1:They're gold balls but it's like I can see then who they'll become. But spiritually I see these gold balls and it's the best way I can explain that. Um and I have had some wild fertility things where, again, it breaks my heart because I wish there was like a one size fits all, where it's like I could tell you if you wanted to have a baby and you were struggling to get pregnant, you could come in here and I do something magical and then you become pregnant. But it's like I don't have a one size fits all answer to that. But I've had, um, quite a few sessions where I end up doing this wound clean out and I use this gold light and I kind of do I don't know. It's like coding or something I don't know what it is or I'm removing Trump. Sometimes it's just as simple as I have to clean that area out. That's it.
Speaker 1:Um, somebody is pregnant. I had somebody that was given less than a 1% chance, like her and her husband, of them together ever conceiving, and it was the first time I saw her and she came in and I did this wild thing Like I had never done before, and out of my mouth was like you're going to be, you're going to get pregnant Like soon. This woman had just told me that she was told that she had less than a 1% chance. Like that is not something you say to somebody.
Speaker 1:And I and it was just like when I said, yes, the breech baby it was, I was channeling, it was flying out of my mouth and in fact I don't remember saying it. She told me that I said that and I was horrified after what she did. And so I saw her and she was going in for IVF and we had made plans for me to see her two days before the IVF implant was to happen, because she had to go up the night before with IVF you have to go up the night before and so she came in and it was her then second session. So I did that like this womb clean out, something I'd never done before told her she was going to get pregnant. You know she.
Speaker 1:I'm surprised she came back. I mean, like if that were me fighting a fertility battle, I'd have been like fuck that lady. Yeah, you know she came back and right when she walked in I knew she was pregnant and she said to me she goes, I'm pregnant, she goes. I can't believe that. So she got pregnant before her IVF naturally conceived and that was just wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've had a couple instances like that with the pregnancies too. Those always blow my mind. It's like blows your mind. Yeah, because some of it, some of it can be like past life trauma. So a lot of times when I do reiki on people, I'm very good at finding the past life trauma. For whatever reason. That is because it's like I zone right in on it and I'm like, oh, past life, this is what happened, oh my gosh. And then I start getting all my crazy eyes that I get that people laugh at. But the I had a.
Speaker 2:I did have a client who came in and she, you know, she couldn't get pregnant, she didn't want to do IVF. They told her it wasn't going to happen and I work. When I was in her stomach area I kept getting these images of her getting like speared in the stomach area, like with this, like ancient spear from like medieval times in the stomach and like them hoisting her up like her body up with this spear. It was really intense, but it was residual past life trauma in there. Really intense, but it was residual past life trauma in there. So I removed like all the quote unquote scar tissue from the past life and dug that out and it was one of the sessions that I, one of the sessions I had where the person was actually in pain. Those scare me because I feel like I'm hurting someone and I got to like trust what's happening. But she's in pain and I was like just hang in there with me and I start telling her about this past life. And I pulled it out and she had messaged me, you know sessions over and she's like I feel so much better, blah, blah, blah. And again they told her she could never get pregnant. Um, so her and her husband are not using protection.
Speaker 2:She messaged me like a month later and said she was pregnant. She goes. I don't know what the hell you did. She goes, but I'm pregnant. And I was like, oh my god, congratulations. She said we're in shock. You know, this woman's like almost 40 years old, like her, like it is very hard to get pregnant when you're almost 40 because things start happening hormonally and they just wrote it off as never happening and she ended up pregnant. And it's like those ones always tripped me out, cause I'm like the power of energy just blocking a physical thing from happening has always been such an anomaly to me. It is intriguing.
Speaker 1:We do this every day and I've seen all kinds of crazy things, but I'm always blown away. I'm always blown away at what what energy work can do.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, yeah, and like how the spirit world works when you're utilizing energy work. I mean even like attachments or things that are inhuman on people that we've seen doing Reiki or energy work has I mean, I pulled something out of myself before it was yeah, I want you to tell them about that, because also so and people ask a lot okay, well, do you Reiki yourself?
Speaker 1:I Reiki myself every day, yeah, but when we Reiki ourselves it's a little bit different, it's trickier. You know you're doing it to yourself and it feels different, it just is different. But you have interesting story about what you pulled off of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because when I Reiki myself, like I asked my guides to come in and help me, cause I'm like I don't know what I need, cause it gets really muddy when you're talking about yourself, it's like giving yourself a reading. It's too hard. Um, it's difficult, but no, I was. It was. I was going through the divorce phase with somebody who has an addiction issue, so I lived with addiction for over 20 years with this person, and anybody who's ever lived with an addict knows how awful that can be. It's very oppressive, it's depressing, it's a negative environment to live in period and that affects your energy. And he had just left, and so I'm trying to get my life back together and figure out what the hell just happened for the past like 20 plus years, like what the hell just happened, and so I'm laying on my couch in the living room it's quiet and I just felt like I needed to pull something out of my solar plexus.
Speaker 2:So my guides whenever I know like something major is happening, they almost they move in so close to me that it feels like they're on top of me, and that's what happened during this Reiki session. So I was like holy shit. So I start pulling, and I'm pulling, and I'm pulling, and I'm pulling and all of a sudden this big, giant black spider jumped up out my stomach and like all of its legs were out on the side and it's jumping around looking because it didn't know how it got out. And then one of the angels came. Oh God, it gives me the creeps.
Speaker 2:One of the angels came and swooped it up and went away with it and I remember looking at my guides going what the hell just happened and what it was was an attachment from the addiction that I was like living in. That got yanked out of my stomach because I couldn't. I couldn't move forward with that energy still lingering within me, because it was. You know there's a lot of abuse that went with that. There was a lot of trauma and just being worried all the time. You know you're walking on eggshells for 20 years and it was a non-human thing that went inside me and was like living, because I was a very negative person. When I was living with that I wasn't who I am now and it took a lot of time to heal, to get where I'm at now. But that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, pulled out that giant black spider and the angels came and took it away and you and I both seen inhuman, like attachments on people that are spiritual and it's almost like doing what the church would call like an exorcism minus, like the spitting up pea soup and your head turning around in circles. It is a form of an exorcism because you're removing an entity from somebody's body and you've seen where it's been like a spirit I have too where it's like a negative spirit has attached themselves to someone and this person's like I don't know why my life is so negative. I can't seem to do this, I can't seem to get out of this, this horrible depression that I'm in. And then they come in and you're like holy shit, like you have an attachment that's negative.
Speaker 1:And a lot of times they like the attachment kind of is sneaky and starts, yes, slithering through their bodies like it'll jump from a shoulder to their stomach to whatever, and they're moving around and so like, if you're not coming to somebody that can see, like that, you know, most typical energy workers aren't seers. They're working and moving energy and they're doing what they're supposed. You don't have to be a medium to be a reiki practitioner, but then they're just a reiki practitioner, healing trauma or pulling attachments and stuff. But I've seen, I mean, some pretty scary stuff that I pulled out of people.
Speaker 1:I mean I've had, um, I had somebody that I pulled out, this dark energy. They had had a personality change. There was all of the stuff that was happening and they weren't themselves and they were like panicked. As I was pulling it out because the attachment was panicked, and as I'm pulling it out of their body, they are in physical agony, physical agony and pain Because it's trying to hold on. And yeah, and whenever that happens, there's always lots of angels and they just kind of I hold on to it until they grab it and then they go off with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've had one time where they didn't come and get it, and it was in my house.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, um, yeah, they and I, I didn't sleep. It had even like four nights I didn't sleep. And then I figured it out and I was like you, mother effer. I was like, oh hell, no, you're gone because you're not doing to me what you did to them. So it's like I had I got up as two o'clock in the morning and I'm upstage in my house and like, doing all this.
Speaker 2:I probably looked like a nutbag because I was outside in my pajamas. I was in my house all over the place for like an hour and a half. But I had one time where I pulled something out of somebody and it stayed and I was like but it was more on the demonic side, like because you can have like where it's an actual inhuman demonic, but then you can have a human spirit acting in a demonic form where they're just a negative. So, but this was actually a demonic thing and it I was like you, you're not staying here. So I don't know why nobody came and got it. I was kind of like hello, um, did you guys forget about me or what? I don't know why that happened, but I was like for four days I'm suffering. You guys couldn't give me a clue here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh my, oh my gosh, yeah, and that's the risk, like when you're doing stuff in your house, that is like a real concern, you know, like having that, that stuff say, and um, well, and that's why we grid our spaces.
Speaker 2:Like you have your space gridded cause you do yours out of a shop, but it's like there's still the it doesn't mean it can't follow you home, right? And then, like I have my space gridded completely, like my yard, my house, like everything is gridded because I don't. I will not allow negativity to linger or stay. I won't have it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just, it's crazy, it's's a. It's such a broad spectrum of the things that we've witnessed. I mean, we could talk for multiple episodes about just our experiences in reiki or healing sessions with energy work. Um, I feel like this gives you all a general idea, um, you know, of the scale that falls on from attachments to fertility to just kind of the things that we experience. And I feel like you know the purpose of this episode is just to kind of shed some light on what we do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what energy work is, because a lot of people really don't understand. It's a very broad term, because there's other things that are considered energy work that's not Reiki. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I just yeah. I'm hoping that if you've never had energy work, that you listen to this and it's piqued your interest and I hope that you seek out, whatever area that you are in, somebody and trust your gut and go with your instinct. And if you go and see somebody and you know you just didn't feel right about it or you were left feeling unsettled, then don't go back and find somebody else. So it's important that you connect with the person and I always say the biggest red flag in energy work, as far as practitioners go, is the ego. So if you go and find somebody and they're acting like they know everything or they're better than you or they're just really all about themselves, be sure that you find somebody else.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It's a big important component of this is, you know, I think you and I both find it really important that we're showing up in that moment for whoever we're with, and if I'm in a place where something's happening in my life that I cannot focus on the person that's there with me, then you will be rescheduled, because that's really important to me.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm on the same page.
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