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Past Life Influences: Discovering Your Soul’s History

Laura Hillkirk & Melanie Smith Season 1 Episode 9

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This episode explores the profound connections between our past lives and current emotional and physical states. Through personal stories and insights, Melanie and Laura discuss how understanding past traumas can lead to healing and personal growth.

• Examination of how past lives shape interests and hobbies 
• Discussion on chronic physical pain as a result of past life trauma 
• Exploration of phobias and fears stemming from previous experiences 
• Personal anecdotes highlighting real-life experiences with past lives 
• Insights into the purpose of reincarnation and learning lessons 
• Understanding karmic ties in relationships from past lives 
• The healing potential of recognizing points of influence in our current lives

Speaker 3:

this is into the light podcast with melanie smith and laura hillkirk. Welcome back. We have episode nine and we are going to talk past lives, my favorite. I love past lives. I love this too. Melanie does past life readings. I myself have had one. I've had her at the shop doing them. I think this is like a favorite of people.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

I mean people love talking to their loved ones like their departed loved ones. But I feel like the past life thing is just. It's a fascinating thing that people are trying to understand or don't realize how much they connect to it.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, when I do past life readings it's really interesting because a lot of what people's hobbies are now they've had a past life doing, or they're attracted to certain locations, certain time periods like the 50s or the 1800s, or they love cowboys, whatever it is, and they can't figure out why. And then when we do the past life reading, they've had a life during that time period or they bring something up that resonates with them and it's fun to see their faces because their souls connect to it immediately and it's a good reference for them and they're like, oh my gosh, that is why I'm like this, that's why I love that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I think people are, you know, and it's it's a tricky thing to understand and because it's like we're fundamentally who we are genetically, we have stuff. Then you throw in trauma and there's personality traits, and then there is this component of where has our soul lived? What has our soul been? And our soul that's in what I call this meat sack that we have now. Whatever meat sack you incarnated into, but it has such a big part of who you are and I know, you know you see that in readings and in sessions as well.

Speaker 3:

A big part of that for me is in a session when I see something. There is so many times when there's a chronic physical pain in the body and they've had testing and they've done all of these things, where it's like you know there's nothing wrong with your neck or your knee or your back and there's no like I don't see trauma. You know that's not like a trauma from this, this life that's happening in there. And when I get in there and start digging, it's like holy crap, it's your. It's just like remembering. It's like your body decided to get this memory imprint of something that happened in a past life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. And I always think it's when I tell people about stuff like that because I've also seen that in Reiki sessions and also in readings because I'll ask people, hey, do you have like asthma, do you have lung issues? And they'll be like, yes, and I'm like, okay, this is why you have the long issues, because it happened back in I don't know 1700s and their DNA I call it spirit DNA because I don't know another way to say it. I think when we reincarnate, we take some of that DNA structure with us and it can affect us physically and emotionally. Here, I mean, I've had people who they're suicidal and they have no idea why, but in a past life they've committed suicide and as soon as their soul hears that, they release it and they no longer have issues. Hangs onto that information, because it either didn't process what happened or it was so traumatic there wasn't healing, whatever it could be. A plethora of issues of why your body is still and your soul is still holding onto that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's like a remembering. I always say it's like our body is going through a remembering when it comes to past life. Remembering when it comes to past life, I've had I had one person that had this chronic neck issue. They had never been in a car accident. There are no cysts, there are no slipped discs. There was like nothing wrong. They had been to all of these medical professionals that were basically like your crate, like you are making up this pain, and they come in. And it was immediate.

Speaker 3:

I was immediately drawn to this spot and, um, so weird, as I'm talking about this right now, my wrist hurts so bad. Is there something happening with my past life? Oh, my gosh, like stabbing pain in my wrist right now. I'm like what is the heck? Um, sorry guys, um, but I I remember going in and in their neck was like shards of an arrow, like like the wooden, like an air, like they had been shot with an arrow and it like split when it went in and there were like pieces of wood going up this way and that way and it's.

Speaker 3:

It sounds insane, but it's like when I'm doing these sessions, it's like I'm doing a surgery. I was like in there and I'm picking and pulling out this stuff, and then I went over it with this healing like a cut, like compacted it with this, like healing earth, and they literally didn't have a single pain Again. This person was in their 50s. They've had it their whole lives and then all of a sudden it was gone. And that's like an example of and what I was seeing was them getting shot with this arrow and it was like in a western setting. You're like like almost like a western movie. You're like they were out somewhere, um, in some battle with a native american, um, and I didn't feel like they were native and, um, it was just bizarre yeah, that's you do see, you do end up seeing a lot of that kind of dynamic, either with physical things or even emotional things like fear.

Speaker 2:

You do get a lot of people where they're just terrified of something and they have no reason to be terrified of I don't know spiders or scorpions or water, whatever it is at heights, and there's just an innate fear there. And then when they go through past life information, it's you know, maybe they got burned up in a fire and that's why they're scared of fire, or you know they drowned in the ocean and that's why they're scared of the ocean. But those fears kind of travel. And it's so interesting because you would think that when you finish one life and you cross over, some of that trauma dissipates, but it doesn't. It doesn't. Sometimes it can get carried over because your body and your soul remembers what happened to it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so the phobias are a real thing. People with various past lives the way they've died have come back in and it's like they like a true fear of fire. But you've never had any interaction with a fire. You know that would make you fearful of fire, or drowning.

Speaker 3:

A lot of people with fear of water. It's like typically that means you drowned or had a bad experience in a past life with water. There's various things. You mentioned spiders that's a big thing Spiders, bugs, so like, when you have an irrational fear of something and something didn't happen on this in this life, on this timeline to create that fear, then it's usually tied to something in a past life.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I've always been scared of fire, always, always been scared of fire, and I used to have these dreams about getting burned at the stake and it was, like always in another language. It wasn't in America. I felt like I was in another country because when I would hear the people talking to me it was in another language. And the funny thing is, in that dream, when I was getting burned, I had red hair. Now I was born with auburn hair but it turned like this white, whitish, blonde color as I got older and then, like 15 years ago, I started dying my hair red again because I feel like I'm a redhead. I've always felt like I'm a redhead and it reminded me, it triggered. When I dyed my hair red, it triggered those dreams again where I was getting burned at the stake.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, I know I've had past lives where I've had abilities or practice witchcraft. It's just a part of who I am as a soul and I'm pretty sure that life I got punished for it and got burnt up and ever. I just have this I don't like being close to grills or like bonfires freak me out. I almost have anxiety when someone's like do you want to come over for a bonfire and I'm like, no, I really don't want to come over for a bonfire and I'm going to sit as far away from it as I possibly can. And it's like just this fear and I've never been really able to overcome that because it was so. I mean, I was having dreams about that past life, probably from middle school until late high school, and then they stopped, and then, when I dyed my hair again, they came back. So it's that fear is still resonating with the fire.

Speaker 3:

Well, you kind of brought up, okay, so you dyed your hair red and that was the trigger. And so I find a lot of times with clients, there is a trigger, there is a moment in time that activates that memory within your body. Sometimes it's like this underlying thing that's there your whole life where you really can't put your finger on it. It's more just like, okay, I don't like fires, but it's like then something happens, like you dyed your hair, and there was this memory. It's like your soul, your body and on a cellular level, you're remembering the time when you had red hair and it wasn't here, right, and so it's there. There is that trigger point. Sometimes it's age.

Speaker 3:

I will have people that are like fine, their whole lives, and then they're like from the age of I turned 21. And all of a sudden, I was like terrified to get on a boat, you know, and it's like, okay, well, we need to visit that. Well, that's because they were 21 in a past life and they died on a boat. It's like those kinds of things that it's like sometimes that's what happens. There's a trigger.

Speaker 2:

That makes sense, like with the triggers, because a lot of the clients that I've seen for past lives, if they're struggling with certain things, it's because they're like I went to this other country and started um hiking and now all of a sudden I have this fear of cliffs or falling off a cliff and they're like but we never hiked on a cliff. Well, you had another life in that country and you fell off a cliff and died. So it is. Yeah, you're absolutely right with those trigger points and I think people intuitively you know that it's not you, it's something else. They just can't put their finger on it, they can't figure it out. And I do see you and I both have seen a lot of people who have water fear.

Speaker 2:

Like water is a huge thing with people. Both our kids have fears of water and it relates back to either drowning in the ocean, boat accidents, storms, all kinds of things. I had one lady who was a pirate in a past life and she got dabbed in the gut and thrown overboard and she's like go on boats in the ocean.

Speaker 3:

So you know, I've had somebody that's been afraid of water and when I, when I tapped into those past lives, he had both times he had drowned. He has like a karmic connection with water. So he had also he had drowned in a past life, many past lives, like several. But he's also what had come up for me was it was um egyptian times and he was working for like a pharaoh or something and it was like I could see this big elaborate place, um way back um in in egypt and there was a big pool and there this is like where the people with money would hang out and whatever.

Speaker 3:

And if you did something wrong maybe you stole, stole from somebody or whatever the rules were, then you would be drowned for certain crimes. And so in that he had had a life where he didn't drown but he worked for this Pharaoh that he and other men were the ones drowning the people committing the crime. So he actually had both sides of that karmic twist, like he had many lives where he had drowned but he had also drowned other people and so it was this like very layered thing to heal, because it wasn't like, okay, we got to go back and heal, like this fear around you drowning. It was like you also have this karmic tie to where you drown people and so that was like a really interesting. It was probably the most complex layered past life healing I've ever had to do.

Speaker 2:

Well, that kind of comes back with why we even have past lives or why we even reincarnate, and a lot of times it is to learn lessons, it's to excel your soul, it's to learn the lessons that we're supposed to learn or want to learn, or perhaps that we didn't learn in another life. So you come back and repeat things, and I've had several I mean I've talked to several people where they're repeating lessons and they're repeating a life lesson they didn't learn in the previous one, because it's kind of your soul comes here for a reason. Everybody's got a purpose for being here and the most blatant way I can put that is to learn. I mean, that is the most simplistic answer. And so past lives like if you don't learn from a previous past life, you will repeat it in the next. So it's that's why it's so important to get your healing done here, because who the hell wants to go through this shit twice? Nobody, nobody, I know, wants to do a do over with this. No, thank you. So it's like, get all your healing in now so you don't have to repeat things.

Speaker 2:

And the karmic connection that you're bringing up, where I mean, I've had people who've, in other lives, have murdered someone and then in this life they either work with murder victims or they're psychologists and they're feeling the pain from them and they a lot of times we'll say like I don't understand why I get so upset or connected and it's like, well, you took a life in a past life, so now here you have to see the other side of it. You know what it's like to kill somebody, and now you're going to know what it's like what it's like to kill somebody and now you're going to know what it's like to work with someone or lose someone or et cetera. And it's not always like that, Like things that happen to you aren't always karmic. So please don't take it that way, listeners, that's not what I mean, but there are very, there's a few cases where that is what's happening, and so it's like a relearning of the opposite.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, and I think some, some souls are just inherently dark and evil and they just keep coming back and it's lifetimes of murdering and serial killers or whatever that is. It's like that's a part of that sort of soul contract and just who they Most people it's. I truly believe it's like until we heal some of those parts, they stick with us and that's what's happening to a lot of people a lot of the time. I mean, there's not anyone that comes in to see me that doesn't have some, usually something from a past life that's affecting them in some way here.

Speaker 3:

And I don't always talk about that in every session, because not everybody needs to hear those words or be a part of that. You know it's not necessary for them. And then there's other people that really need that, they really need to hear those words because it's a part of that healing process for them. That connection, you know, like somebody that's been afraid to go on a boat their whole life, or has been afraid to learn to swim or do whatever. I mean it's like it's crippling in your life, and so those people need that connection, they need to understand it. And so those are the people that you know we're going to tell, okay, this is what happened, and it's almost like a relief. Once they hear it and can let that go, everything changes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's almost instant. It's like their soul hears it, and then the soul's like, oh my God, that's what happened. They reconnect it and then they're able to move forward.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean and that happened to me. So I had and this was really early on I had a Reiki session. This was like maybe my like fourth or fifth session and you know, like it was really moving a lot of trauma. I was reconnecting with my spiritual gifts and the person that was giving me the Reiki wasn't a medium like, wasn't somebody who could give me like a past life reading, and at this point I was discovering that I was who I was as a medium and things like that. But she was working on me and I started sobbing uncontrollably, sobbing uncontrollably and I could see myself. It was. I was seeing from my point of view out. So like the vision I was having was like coming from my eyes and I was looking out at these people, a whole crowd of people staring at me, and I'll never forget it.

Speaker 3:

I had just such sorrow and sadness in my heart and it's like I honed in on these two, three people in the out, out in the crowd, and it was um, two children and a man, and it there was like a church building behind and all this and I realized I could feel on my neck, something around my neck, and I quickly realized I was about to be hung and I was crying and in my I actually said the words out loud and I didn't realize I was speaking them out loud and until the person after my session had told me what I said.

Speaker 3:

But I had said don't believe the things that they're telling you, don't believe the things you were telling you, and I was being hung as a witch and it was such sadness. But that session stuck with me and it still does today, because when those feelings creep in, like I can't be who I am, I remind myself on this timeline I can be this person. I'm not going to be hung in Times Square and I'm married to somebody that does believe in me and my children and all that. But it was a big part of me and I know that that was no accident, that we healed that then, at the beginning of this spiritual awakening that was happening with me. But the deep sadness I felt was wild and that was the first time I had ever realized I could see past lives, not only my own but other people's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's interesting though, with the being hung and then having that affect the process with your abilities here, because they do create blockages, which I think we talked about the last episode. But they can create those blockages and then they prevent you from being able to move forward and to be yourself, like where the soul's's like wait a second so it can create and manifest and like really cause some identity issues with people where you're like I have to hide this about myself, but you don't know why, or I feel like I'm somebody else and a lot of times like it can be. Um, it reminded me of this reading that I had with this woman who never felt like she fit in, like almost to the point where she just never wanted to be here anymore. And I'm doing the past life with her and this was her first life in this dimension. All her other lives had been in other dimensional spaces.

Speaker 2:

So she was was like a fairy. She had lived in like another timeline I don't even know what it's called and this was her first time here and she just didn't fit in house and all she had were fairies, centaurs, unicorns, the whole. That was how the house was decorated, and she was crying because she said she goes. I I don't feel as out of place now because it just it resonated with her so much that it helped to give her peace. And a lot of times people have, like you know, they struggle with mental health and sometimes it is tied to past life. It's not always tied to past life, but sometimes it is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well.

Speaker 3:

I think it's a good point too about gender. It's like you, you know, I have been a mother, I've been a gender like your lives, your soul is gender fluid, meaning you've been a male, you've been a female, different lives, as something like I have. I have a past life where I am a man working on like the railroad. I could totally see that with you too, I know, like I mean, it makes total sense and like um soul connections with people like. My son and I are in the same soul family. There's been times he's been my parent and times I've been his. This is, I think, my first timeline with him where I'm the parent and that's very evident. A lot of times um, with our souls. But that that is a really great even way to you know. A topic to talk about with this is how it does fluctuate and sometimes that does affect us. There is also the elementals, which we're going to dive in on the next episode, but you know you could have I had somebody that was that's a mermaid Like.

Speaker 3:

She literally spent her whole life with like a mermaid elemental type wherever dimension, and it's like here and it's like like again, she was a really good swimmer, she was on the swim team and there's like all this connection. And when I just blurted that out which I would, I never told anybody that before I mean she sobbed. She was in a class of mine, it was the first time I'd ever met her and it just came out of my mouth Like it was. At the end it was kind of like this Q&A thing and I was like, oh my God, like you're a mermaid, like you've been a mermaid, you have like a mermaid family. And she resonated with that immediately. It was immediate, like you could see it physically come over her body, you know, and like the lady you're talking about.

Speaker 2:

Did she have issues where, if she wasn't around water, did she feel empty, like did she? Did she always have to have some connection with water?

Speaker 3:

yes, yes and still does. But now, knowing that it's like she feels she understands it. You, just like the lady you were talking about with the unicorns and the fairies, like that, this was her first life, non elemental. That's so trippy, you know. It's like there's a but in her body is a remembering, because we always remember just like, why am I a shaman? Well, it's not because of anything I've done on this timeline in this life. I can tell you that now I've lived through trauma that allows me, but that's a remembering. My soul is remembering many, many lives where I've been a medicine woman or I've been this or that, and so it's.

Speaker 3:

It is a remembering. Past lives kind of pop in and when we're remembering that's, that's the component that brings fear. We don't realize that we're remembering something that is not here. We're still safe. I could be sitting here talking to you on this podcast right now and I'm safe. I'm in a, I'm in my Reiki room at the shop and I'm totally safe. But if I have a remembering and something happens, it feels very scary and unsafe if you're unaware of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. And I think, like the remembering, it can be multiple things, because I think you can also remember people that you shared past lives with big time, like all of a sudden you're not that person on this timeline. Yeah, it's like all of a sudden you're like I know you, my soul knows you. This makes sense. I had never really experienced that before until I met my boyfriend and his family and I just know I've had past lives with many of them, especially with my boyfriend. Like I, the recognition, the soul recognition, the way that things flow, being able to understand one another without really even explaining how you feel to that person, it is 100% a soul connection to that person. It is 100% a soul connection, is it? I don't think it's like a soul tie where it's unhealthy, but it's more of like a. We've had so many past lives with each other. We just know each other intuitively, right, and you can tell that and there's a difference.

Speaker 3:

And we have people that come in that are challenging in our lives, like I have people that are in my soul family that I don't really like on this life, and that's their job was to come back and teach me those lessons. But you, how, how you know someone has been from your past life. The best way to describe that is it's immediate you. There is a comfort that takes a really long time to get with anybody else and it's the same with my husband.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I met my husband in a series of synchronicities that were like I mean, if I even told you, it'd be like, come on now and we met and it was just this instant friendship, connection and comfort where I felt like I've known him my whole life. And those are the people that I have. Friendships that are like that where you are newly friends with somebody, um, and you instantly have that I'm safe here feeling. And that's when you know you've had a lot of lives with this, that person and they've been positive, loving yes, lives right Like that loving connection, not like a twin flame type thing or something like that, where it's very tumultuous and we can talk about that, you know, on another episode, but it's like when you've shared a past life with somebody and especially romantic love, those soul connections with romantic love.

Speaker 3:

You tend to come back with those people over and over again because you, the souls, want to be together.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I don't know if I would call it like a soul mate, but that's all that kind of what it feel. That's what it feels like where it's like okay, because I know, um, I know he and I have had past lives before together and some of them didn't always pan out where we could. You know, one of us died or there was some sort of situation that kept us apart. So it's like this life and the way that we found each other is very interesting because it was 100% a cosmic intervention, divine intervention, 100%, and I feel like that's a component of it.

Speaker 3:

When you have somebody that romantically comes into your life, that is in your soul, family or from a past life, that connection, it always you reconnect in those ways where it is like you couldn't plan it and it's always when you're not looking, that's when that happens and it's, you know, a series of synchronicities and you know you two have definitely had many, many, many many many, many times. And I know.

Speaker 2:

I've had the same like with his brother and his sister and his mom, like they just feel like my family in a way that no one's ever felt like my family before. The opposite, too, where it's not so loving and you're repeating a life with someone that is negative, and I feel like that's how it was with my ex-husband. Where this was, I had some sort of karmic thing I had to work out with him and it took me 24 years to do that. But once it was gone, it was gone. It was done in a way where I finally learned what I was supposed to learn from that and walk away, yeah, and now won't repeat, and it's that left. And then my boyfriend came in and it was like your boyfriend could not have come in until you learned that lesson.

Speaker 3:

So, had you chosen to stay in the toxic karmic cycle with your ex, he would not have been able to come in, because we also that's a part of it too it's like that connection can't come in until we finish up. That's not always the case. Husband came in in a time where it was like, okay, we've got to deliver him to get her to where she's going to be, so, like in my case, that's what it was. It was like we have to, okay, now enter act two of this, this life. Let's bring him in to be this guiding, very subtle guiding force for where she's headed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and but that's. But. That's that soul companionship though, because I feel the same way with my boyfriend also, where it's like helping, we're helping each other. But it's like that soul companionship, yeah, where it's like helping, we're helping each other, but it's like that soul companionship and getting through different lessons and karmic ties and getting rid of those for good.

Speaker 2:

So, it's like it's it's helping one another and sometimes, like, you meet people you've had past lives with and it's fleeting, like they're just there for like a season and then they go, and other times they hang around for the rest of your life, and sometimes there's people that you have connections to on a soul level.

Speaker 3:

I know that there are people that are in, have been in many, many lives with me, that have also been in this life with me, but they can, can't be with me, like I've had to let them go and I know we'll be in another life together. You know we'll come back in that way. But there are some people that you do have a past with in past life and they do. They serve a purpose and sometimes that's short and fleeting and you can meet them. I met one friend and I know that we've had lives together and our friendship was very short lived, but she served a purpose. Her purpose was to remove certain people from my life. Um, and then it was just sort of like she took a different path and I was going a different way and it was like, and a very, very short, like, yet less than a year short. But when I met her it was immediate connection. It was an immediate.

Speaker 3:

I know you, I feel very safe and comfortable here and so, yeah, it's just like with anything, it's the time of it has nothing to do with it. You know, everything's so much bigger than what most people can process, but past lives so heavily can influence our right now. So if you are feeling fearful or have a phobia or that kind of stuff, you know you can sit with that and, yeah, a reading can help, but you can also sit with a pen and paper and really think about that. Why do I feel this? And let thoughts flow in. Okay, like, if you're thinking about, like your fear of water, what are you seeing and feeling? Like, do you feel like being on a boat? Is it standing in water? Is it being near water? Like what? Like try to hone in on what exactly and you can do breathing and things to try and think about, like releasing that. You can consciously release that on your own as well yeah, and face the fear too.

Speaker 2:

I think facing here is really important. So, um, my daughter uh, she has a fear of the ocean and of water to the point where if she gets in it, she immediately starts pan Like she won't go past her knees. So when we had went on vacation to the ocean, I was like come on, just walk out with me, just walk out with me. And she wouldn't do it. And I tapped into what was going on with her and she had been a passenger on the Titanic and she had died on the Titanic. I ended up being able to get a name for her, so we were able to look up the person and she very eerily looks similar to this person, the woman that passed away on the Titanic. Her name was Anne and my daughter's name is very similar to Anne. She also, the woman who passed away, was obsessed with her dog. She had both her dogs on the Titanic with her and she refused to leave her dogs. If her dogs couldn't get on a lifeboat, she wasn't going to leave them and that's why she passed away. She died with her dogs. My daughter is an animal lover. She's obsessed with dogs. There's so many similarities to go through.

Speaker 2:

And she went to Tennessee. There is a Titanic Museum in Tennessee and she wanted to see. She needed to see the things in that museum to kind of get her soul at ease and to come to closure because it's a really horrible death, to closure because of a really horrible death. And she went to this museum and she called me crying and she said mom, I recognized so many people. I knew them, I knew their faces, I knew the staircase, because they had a replica of the staircase, they had a replica of the hallways and she was just sobbing.

Speaker 2:

And she also has a physical phenomenon that happens to her when she gets cold, her fingers and her feet turn blue. And I know that is categorized as Raynaud's. However, it is not because she has Raynaud's that that happens. It's because that she had the cold waters hit her the way they did and they turned her fingers and her toes blue, because when she gets near cold water she instantly turns blue. So she had all these physical anomalies happen. She went to the museum, she recognized faces, she recognized the setup and after she went through that I saw like a release in her, where it wasn't so heavy, it was like she had to remind her soul like that happened. It's sad that it happened, but I'm here now. She still has issues getting in water in the ocean. She likes the pool, but she will not get ocean water. She just doesn't want to do it.

Speaker 3:

I don't blame her. It's a hard one to get over.

Speaker 2:

It is and I told her. I said I really think that it's because your body's still in the ocean and I feel like it's trying to pull her back to her body. And that's where the panic comes from, because the body was never recovered.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that makes sense, and when? When you were talking about that, it reminded me of dreams. So a lot of times you might have a reoccurring dream. Reoccurring dreams are typically you remembering a past life. I always had reoccurring nightmares growing up and they were very much a past life. You know, if you have a dream where and this is a good example of it you have a dream and like I'll use myself as an example and I'm dreaming about people and my house looks the same, um, and I'm married but, like in my dream, my husband's not my husband and my kids aren't my kids, you know, a lot of times you have dreams where it's like the people aren't the people but you know, like this person is my husband, um, it's because I'm remembering my husband in an in another life. You know that's that's happened.

Speaker 3:

Remembering in another life or reoccurring nightmares. I have a friend that did um had a reoccurring nightmare about being sexually assaulted and tied up and it was reoccurring like since she's her earliest remember of this was like six or seven, having these dreams all the time, over and over again. And when we tapped into that um and I actually think this was before I was doing any readings I want to say she had a reading with somebody and, just like we do with people, had this like oh my gosh, that's it, and they had said you had been, that she had been in like the sex trade, like she was like like sex trafficking, and this felt like Like back in the maybe like 50s, 60s, something like that maybe it was in the 60s and she's a little younger than me and she said that she ended up being. She had two different lives one where she was in like sex trafficking, which is what she was remembering in these dreams and then she had another reoccurring dream where she was like outside of a shopping mall or something, and then she ended up looking it up because this person during the reading was like you, a shopping mall or something.

Speaker 3:

And then she ended up looking it up because this person during the reading was like you were killed by like a serial killer in the United States, and it was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest and it was like somebody that was would take women from shopping mall parking lots, and so she had these dreams and so a lot of times dreams like, especially like a bad dream, like a re or a reoccurring dream of any kind um is that you're re, you are remembering in your subconscious when you're sleeping, or people that have those dreams. I always tell people you know, do you have dreams of whatever? I mean, I've had a lot of dreams where it's like my life and there's similarities, but the people in it, the faces, don't match.

Speaker 2:

I've never, had dreams like that.

Speaker 3:

No, and I do all the time and it's like. I know it's like that's my husband, but he's not. It's not him. It is him, I know it's him, but it doesn't look like him. No, it doesn't look like him and I can't see me because it's from the perspective of me.

Speaker 2:

Oh interesting, I've never had dreams like that. I've always seen myself either getting killed or mine are never in third person.

Speaker 3:

I don't have dreams where like something's happening to me and I can see me. It's like it's from my perspective. Yeah, I always see someone's chasing me. I don't see me running and someone chasing me. I would turn and see the person. All my dreams are me, from my perspective.

Speaker 2:

So I got to go back. I got to, I got to go back and ask you about the lady with who was killed by the serial killer. Did she end up finding out what serial killer did?

Speaker 3:

that to her. She did, and I can't recall what it was, but I know it was in the pacific northwest and he was a serial killer and something was shoes I recall quickly.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's like weird because as I'm tapping into it, I can see the dream where she was sex trafficking and I'm seeing wood paneling very similar to what's behind you, that knotty pine wood. There's some wood, um, but yeah, and I mean that's horrible at six, seven years old. She's like every night I would go to sleep and have these dreams of being like assaulted over and over again, and so it's just like, but she's had a lot of lives where that's happened.

Speaker 2:

Serial killers are always very interesting to me, especially from the past life perspective, because some of them come back as like a good person, but most of the time you see them just continuing to reincarnate because there is no interest in learning a lesson. It's just carnage, it's just maximum damage and they're kind of they're they're sociopaths. I don't see a lot of sociopaths reincarnate as a better person. They usually stay as sociopaths no they never.

Speaker 2:

It's very rare where I'm like oh yeah, you're a really good person, but you used to be a serial killer. That's very rare. I mean, I had a past life where I tortured people during aztec and mayan times. I was obsessed with them when I was a kid but it was like it was part of the culture, like I was kind of like a high person, so I would like torture people or like do things like that, but it's like it was part of the culture at the time, where a serial killer is very different from that and it's like I've just never met somebody who used to be a serial killer and now they're a great person. I've seen people and you have to where they have like the dead eyes when you go out in public and you're like there is no soul there or that soul is very dark, and they have like these dead. It's a distinct look in the eyes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's not something's not home.

Speaker 3:

For sure, yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so serial killers have always been fascinating for me. I mean, we barely even scratched the surface of past lives in this conversation we're going to. We're going to talk more.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to talk more about past lives because we're going to dive into timelines and um, that in itself is a very long topic and sort of how I was shown like things differently when it comes to past lives or explaining them. But I feel like this is a good touch on that and just you know, when you're looking at dreams or phobias and things like that, but we'll definitely talk more, more about past lives. It's so hard, you guys to cram any topic into 45 minutes to an hour oh my gosh, cause it can go on forever and it's so hard you guys to cram any topic into 45 minutes to an hour, oh my gosh, because it can go on forever.

Speaker 2:

And it's like we want to hear, like your questions, about past lives too, because they're endless like there's. We just got to get into more past lives, I think, more reincarnation, how that works, yeah, it'll.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, thanks for listening guys. Uh, we're coming back. Uh, next episode episode, are we on episode 10? Yeah, that's crazy. I know 10, I know close to 1500 downloads, um, and we are really excited. Uh, we really want to hear from you guys. Please email us. There is also on our Buzzsprout link, um, where you can send us a text message. I want to know where you're listening from. We want to connect with you guys. There's people all over the world listening everywhere, so we want to hear from you. Um, thanks so much for listening. We love you guys. Bye, guys, bye. We'd love to hear from you. Email us your questions at ITL podcast 12, 12 at gmailcom. You can find us on Facebook at into the late podcast. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Email us your questions at itlpodcast1212 at gmailcom.

Speaker 2:

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