Into the Light Podcast
Mediums Melanie Smith and Laura Hillkirk are sharing their weird every day lives with you. From spirit encounters to their healing journeys that led them to the place they are today. Together they will discuss healing, haunted locations, traveling as a medium, energy work, fairies and so much more. Join these besties as they share it all.
Into the Light Podcast
Nature's Keepers: Stories of elemental Beings
This week's episode delves into the mystical world of elementals, exploring their nature, folklore, and personal encounters. We discuss the duality of these beings, the importance of respect in relationships with them, and share various tales of elementals like fairies, Bigfoot, and Wendigos.
• Defining elementals and their significance in folklore
• Personal encounters with fairies while gardening
• The dual nature of elementals: good intentions vs. mischief
• Trust and respect in interactions with elemental beings
• Exploring Bigfoot as both myth and reality
• The malevolent lore surrounding Wendigos and skinwalkers
• The role of elementals as guardians of nature
• Inviting elementals into your home: risks and advice
• Engaging listeners to share their own elemental experiences
this is into the light podcast with melanie smith and laura hillkirk. Welcome back, episode 10. Hey y'all, we're gonna talk elementals.
Speaker 2:Love me some elementals. Actually, I love everything. I think I say that every episode. I can't even help it.
Speaker 3:I love all our subjects.
Speaker 3:Yeah, elementals. It's kind of like okay, what do we mean by elementals? Well, we're going to dive into it our experiences with elementals, but also what our perspective and knowledge is that we believe about these things. So, elementals when we talk elementals, think fairies, gnomes, bigfoot, skinwalkers. There's a lot of elemental. I wouldn't even know what to call them. I've seen some weird like creatures with lots of legs and lots of eyes and just different, different things. So these are aliens. When I think elemental, I think like Earth connection, like a, some frequency that it's like a frequency that resonates close to the Earth, earth bound resonates close to the earth, earth bound. I don't know if they're earth bound.
Speaker 3:I don't know if they're earth bound either, because they're kind of going back and forth, because like fairy worlds, oh, it's just so hard to describe what I feel.
Speaker 2:When I think of elementals, I'm thinking they come from the earth. They've never been human, in other words, they've never had a human life here. And they are very different from aliens, because some aliens, they exist here in some time, travel. That's very separate. These elementals come from our plane, but they come from earth energy and they're not, they've never lived. That's like the most basic way to explain it, because if we go into how we feel about them, that gets all mish-mashed up. Yeah, because we're connecting with them very differently and emotionally almost gonna. And it's dangerous to do that with some elementals, which we'll get into, because some of them you've got ones that have good intentions and then you have others that do not have good intentions, whatever reason.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just like any spirit, right, like any, even our human form. You know those of us that are humans. There are people with good intentions and there are people with not so good intentions. There are aliens that are, you know, of the light and there are some of the darkness. So it's it's like the light and there are some of the darkness. So it's it's like the light and the darkness exists within all frequencies, within all you know different frequencies of being, like, like the elementals, and I have encountered some tricky well you have a history with fairies yeah we're very different because it's like I do.
Speaker 2:I have had experience with fairies, but mine haven't been um negative because they're usually it's in my garden where I see them. But you've had them with people and, yeah, like um yes, I have dealt with fairies in a tricky way.
Speaker 3:I don't know why fairies don't like me so and most of mine have been so, and when we say they've never been human, so when I see an actual fairy, that means they've never taken on a human form. But just like we talked in the past episode about, like how I met a mermaid obviously she is a human being in this life on this timeline, but in the past she had been a mermaid, and so there are people that resonate with fairy energy because they have been a fairy, so they were a fairy and, for whatever reason, they are now reincarnated as humans. So my negative interactions have been more with, like these humans with fairy energy. I know many that are lovely, but for some reason I get the tricky ones that kind of hose me over with these big soft eyes and their little bodies and I'm like, oh, I'm going to help you and then they fuck me, they fuck me over. So yeah, I have this. Like a lot of my lessons have been tied to that.
Speaker 3:But I had encounter with fairies. We had a lot next door to my property and we had trails and stuff. We planted wild flowers and stuff like that and I would really sense the fairy energy there. And they were really. You know, fairies help heal the earth, so like plants and animals, that's what that's what they do, like they spend their time sort of helping heal and induce, do stuff with the flowers and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:And so when my parents were getting ready to build next door, I kept getting this strong sense that they were irritated and that I had to like befriend them and sort of like leave offerings. So we would leave offerings and things on and it sounds insane on the lot next door, just sort of like, hey, we're going to, you know, like they're only building their house here but this whole back area is going to be untouched and, um, you know like they're not going to put down weed and feed or anything like that. You know we're going to have a lot of the animals in and my parents have done that. And then the energy shifted and they're almost the protectors of that land now. But initially it was sort of like a rise-up fairy army, ready to like, and they're small but mighty, so they are tricky. There's fairies and why can't I think of the other name of the fairies that are sprites. They are like a fairy, but they can be really ornery and tricky and you don't want to like invite them there.
Speaker 2:I mean a lot of. There's been a lot of writings about fairies that are like that Like Shakespeare had one everyone knows the famous puck where he caused all this havoc in Midsummer Night's Dream and that's kind of their MO is to create some chaos because they think it's funny. They're tricksters and pranksters. But if you so, fairies I feel like you have to be careful with. So I had like a bunch of fairies.
Speaker 2:I have a ton of fairies in my garden and when I would be gardening I would hear them don't cut that down or don't move that. And then I'd move it anyway and there'd be like a frog or something that had made its home and I'd feel like a total piece of shit. So then I'd like put it back the best that I could, and sometimes I could feel myself getting pinched. And it was them. They would get pissed at me because I did something they told me not to do. So I just learned in my garden that when I hear something like that, it's for a reason either. There's a bunny's nest, there were frogs that made homes. There was a bee's nest one time where I promised I wouldn't spray pesticides, but they had to tell the bees to move their hive, otherwise I would, because they were those big hornets and I got stung on the ass. Oh, I remember that. I remember me calling you. I'm like you're calling me on my ass because I like they were like chasing you, they did, and I was like so I like sent them right with talking to them and I'm like I don't want to use pesticides because of the fairies and I was like but you're stinging me and I can't even get to my front door because you're mad. I'm walking through your quote unquote territory. So the bees ended up moving their nest, which was kind of crazy. Everyone thought I was nuts but they evacuated.
Speaker 2:So it's like the fairies will work with you if you're respectful. It's where, when you get disrespectful, is where they can really cause you issues. And I have talked to people where fairies have invaded their home and they have electrical issues. They've had fires, they've had all kinds of things go haywire, they break things. That's kind of what they do. They'll. They'll break your shit like they'll come home and stuff will be broken and I'm like your house isn't haunted, haunted. You have like a fairy invasion. I've had that one time where I've seen that and this lady told me she goes well, I invited them in because I love fairies and I was like oh my God, what did you do?
Speaker 3:Don't invite them in ever, ever, ever. It's really funny Because my daughter used to watch Princess Sophia and there's an episode on there where there's like fairies or sprites or something and they're like you are not because it's kind of magic. The show's about magic, which, by the way, there's so much magic in Disney, because they know this stuff exists, like the higher people, the government, all know that this kind of stuff exists. But anyways, that was the whole episode, was she invited these fairies in and they couldn't get them to leave, like you literally have to almost trick them to get them out.
Speaker 2:Once you made permission, you almost like signed this contract.
Speaker 2:You didn't even know you signed. Yeah, it's like, it's like peter pan. Yeah, that, what is that fairy? His name, tinkerbell tinkerbell. Yeah, it's like she's nice, but when she gets in a fit like she'll stomp things and break things and get, they're highly, highly emotional creatures. Yes, and it's like the way you talk to them truly matters, because they go off. They go off their very first reaction to something. There is no thought process, it's just reactionary. So if you piss them off, they will cause problems for you. And it's like, and I don't see fairies the same way that, like disney has made them or that the way they've been marketed, like how do you? I'm curious how you've seen, I've the two to three times.
Speaker 3:I've physically seen them, not just felt them. It wasn't like a magical fairy in a skirt. Yes, the wine almost looked like a dragonfly, but with ears and a face like very long ears. Um, and green, lots of green, um, yes, green like green. Everything I didn't see like with clothing per se um, the one was very like a dragonfly would be the closest thing I could like describe it to, but the wings were very different. The wings aren't like a set of four, it was like two wings, but like a double wing, like a big wing with a little wing in front of it, almost if that makes sense. I don't know how to describe it, no it does.
Speaker 3:yeah and so, but I saw another one. The other one I saw wasn't green, it was iridescent, which was a very like what I associate. What was that? Did you see through it? Yeah, reminded me of like the color I describe angels as Iridescent, so it was like more translucent than opaque and very iridescent color. It sparkled more like a silvery icy something. But I also saw that one in the winter and so you know, like I don't know if that had something to do with it Seasonal I you know what I've always thought.
Speaker 2:know if that had something to do with it. Seasonal, you know what? I've always thought that if there were, like, if some of them went into hibernation mode, because I've seen some in the wintertime that are more like opaque color, like, if you think of the crystal opalite yes, that's what this was Okay. So I think we've seen common. Yeah, because it had that type of uh, look to it and it was kind of running around the yard. It didn't have wings but it could fly it, which was very odd. Unless I just didn't get, I wasn't pretty.
Speaker 3:I don't really remember other than the color on that one, but it was flying. It was flying and I don't even remember what I was doing. I was at my house, I don't know. I feel like all I remember is being by the like my evergreen trees, and I don't. I couldn't tell you what I was doing. I was at my house, I don't know. I feel like all I remember is being by the like my evergreen trees, and I don't. I couldn't tell you what I was doing. When I went and when I saw it, um, but the other one was very green and I was, I was sitting like in wildflower flowers I would say wildfire, wild flowers next door, um, at my parents' lot before they built, when we had trails and stuff Cause I would just kind of go over there and sit.
Speaker 2:If you're going to disturb land, they get real angry with that because they're protectors and they're guardians of the earth. So it's like you almost have to have a conversation with them and tell them what you're going to do and why you're going to do it. Yeah, and it's like with my garden. That's why I never use pesticides is because it just harms the earth and they just were not having it. But the ones that I've seen in my garden, they look like they're covered in, like almost like an ivy, like green type of leaf. Yeah, and they had wings, some of them I've seen with almost like bird wings, some of them I've seen where they look like butterfly wings. They're just all different, just like humans are. We all look different.
Speaker 2:But I do think some of them have different assignments that they're responsible for taking care of, whether it's like, whether it's, you know, they're responsible for the insects or the flowers, or they're responsible for birds, because they are tied to animals as well. And there was this one like green man thing that I still don't know what that was, that would chase Dallas. Do you remember me talking to you about that? Yeah, well, no, sometimes there's like little elves and I'm wondering if it was an elf, I could. He was so fast, yeah, super fast, like he would run, like Dallas would chase him in the yard and like this creature would play with him because my dog could see him and they would run through the yard with him because my dog could see him and they would run through the yard and I'm just like I just left it alone because it wasn't harmful. It felt kind of pranksterish so I was like I don't want you in my house, so I'm gonna pretend like I don't see you and you can bug my dog because it's making him tired.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've always connected to Like I love being in nature and just connecting and I have like a total thing with the birds and I feel like to me the elementals on my property are helping to protect that space, but that's because I've established a relationship with them. You know like I'm constantly thank you so much, thank you for helping. You know, the grass grow and and that kind of stuff, and that's really what your connection with the elemental should be. It should never be inviting them into their home. They're not intended to be in a home, they're intended to be out in nature. So even if you're a lover of fairies, you know that can sound cute and hilarious, but it's. It's like really they're meant to be outside and doing what they're supposed to be doing. But they do they. They are, they're connected to flowers, some of the birds, some of the trees, the insects, water there are water fairies. There are fairies that help keep the rivers clean and their job is to do stuff with that.
Speaker 3:That's that is where I saw the. The other one kayaking oh, the opaque one. No, that was in the winter. Um, not cause. I said I knew I'd seen three, but I was like where was that? I was kayaking, that's where it was? It was like floating above the water. And then, just as quick as I saw it, where was that? I was kayaking, that's where it was. It was like floating above the water and then, just as quick as I saw it, it just disappeared.
Speaker 2:That's cool. I've never seen a water one, and which is so strange because I have a huge water connection.
Speaker 3:I do a lot I had, like this almost looks like a bucket, but it wasn't a bucket, it was like woven or made out of something and they were like getting water and doing something with the water with like a I don't I don't even know how to describe it. It was so fast but it looked like a woven basket of some sort, but the water wasn't dripping out of it Like they were getting water and it was just like such a strange thing. But I don't know, it was quick and fleeting and I was almost like did I just see that? You know, because that's how my brain always is, like all the weird shit. I see, I'm like, did I just see that? Well, I know nobody else saw it. So, um, but I mean they're, they are the protectors of the earth and they definitely serve a purpose and you as a person can resonate with different elementals and you know, that's something I encourage people to look into further. If you have this, I mean we can identify a person that you has some connection to fairy energy immediately.
Speaker 2:Yeah, very easily. They have like look and they carry themselves differently.
Speaker 3:Look behavior much similar. Yes, it's very um, and sometimes that doesn't mean that you've been one. It means maybe you have a guy you know like, maybe they're like a part of your guiding force. You know, maybe they're around you talking to you and you don't even know that. You know it could be you talking to you and you don't even know that you know it could be you just resonating with that frequency. But I feel like those are the more commonly known. When people think elementals, I think they probably are thinking that fairies, elves, gnomes yeah, gnomes are interesting little things.
Speaker 2:the same with um trolls like troll energy things. I see a lot of like when I go to, so I have the most. My favorite place on earth is cuyahoga national park. I love that place, I love there, I love it. And I mean I when I was you know I I would drive there by myself and go hiking all day. My daughter hated it because she was like I don't know where you're at and I'd walk off trails and and do stupid things but and I don't you do if you go there yeah, you and Melanie ends up like not telling anybody and just redirecting, like Like she's like being pulled somewhere and before she knows it, she's just off of a path.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I always see and I call them trolls because they kind of look like the trolls from I don't know, like labyrinth or like trolls. They look like trolls and they're these short little maybe three feet tall, if that and they look like their skin has rock, like they're kind of like it's a very coarse skin but it looks like rock, like part of the earth. And I've seen them moving around Cuyahoga when I'm there, and it's like they're not. They're curious but they're not aggressive. I think they would be aggressive if you challenge them, but they're curious.
Speaker 2:So like there's been trails and when I've walked off trails into the woods, I've seen them more where it's like they'll move around and then they turn into like a boulder or a rock and then they keep going because they're I mean, obviously they're camouflaging themselves, because I feel like our world and the devic world, which is kind of what we're talking about when we're talking about elementals they collide. So you have like this crossover of you know worlds and we'll get into timelines later because it'll make more sense or not, or it won't. I get confused with timelines. Anywho, you have like this crossover where they can communicate and they can interact with us on a very different level than some spirits Because they're almost physical in nature.
Speaker 2:Like I feel like I could reach out and touch some of these things and actually feel what they actually feel them of these things and actually feel what they actually feel them. And like the trolls, they they just kind of followed me around and then they disappear. And then I've left offerings at Cuyahoga, um, just to show gratitude towards nature, because that is a very important thing to do. Um, to be respectful, because nature owes you nothing and can be very destructive, which we've all seen and encountered. But yeah, cuyahoga has a ton of elemental energy there. I've always wondered it's amazing there.
Speaker 3:I love it. I love it. You were walking on Milky Court, so that in itself is something, and they've got waterfalls there.
Speaker 2:It's everything. I could go on and on about this place. My place literally saved me when I was going through a difficult time in my life. I would go there and spend all day and just think about my life and it just recharged me. But there were a lot of elemental creatures there and I always wondered. I know Bigfoot's more northern usually, but I always wondered if there was, because I always felt like Bigfoot energy when I go there. Oh, okay, like Cuyahoga is more Cleveland, so it's more east from us. Yeah, yeah, it's Northeast.
Speaker 3:I don't feel anything in Northwest Ohio. I know Southern Ohio has a lot of folklore and sightings.
Speaker 2:Bigfoot and it's like I Michigan Michigan too, but upper upper peninsula Michigan, I feel like more towards Canada and then, like Cuyahoga, I've always had that sense that I was going to run into something like that and I don't. I've never experienced a Bigfoot sighting myself, although I welcome it, but I probably piss my pants, quite honestly, Because Bigfoot's kind of like I you know, aliens freak me out. Bigfoot kind of freaks me out because I go back and forth, like I really feel like it's a spiritual being, but then I go back and forth with it, with it also being a solid, real type of creature, where it's like I go back and forth with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've never encountered Bigfoot energy or not that I recall ever like oh gosh, I think there's a Bigfoot here Now when people talk about it, listen, anything anybody has said that they've seen that has been discredited. I'm always going to believe that that's a real thing. It's just like fairies, gnomes, like we have all these. You could take fairy folklore and it goes way back, like Ireland, the leprechauns, the fairies, like I can't wait to go to Ireland where literally the fairies come from, like it's a whole thing. So if there is, it's, you know, like Native Americans when they talk about these tall giants.
Speaker 3:Giants are another of the elementals that we will talk about. But you know that is in the petroglyphs and that means somebody has experienced that. So I have not experienced anything as far as Bigfoot energy or sighting, but I wholeheartedly believe that that's true because that many people have encountered it. There's just there's no way I believe I don't know if Bigfoot's elemental or if it is, um, like I do believe that there are still human beings, human forms of people. I mean we have vast, vast land in this country where you can't it's not all developed. There's a huge national park, missing people, where people go to national parks and they're like literally never seen again.
Speaker 2:They fall off the face of the earth. It's like where did you go? Like it could be portals, time portals.
Speaker 3:Do I think like Bigfoot's bad don't? I don't know. I think it's sort of like a human animal type creature. More than elemental is the vibe. I get more like they're some hybrid something and it's just. They are really skilled at survival and hiding in these places. But there's more sightings because over time we're shrinking these forests and you know places where they where they would be. But absolutely, I think that exists. I think that there's different animals that we don't even know about, that that exist, you know birds.
Speaker 2:Like the ocean itself Don't even get me started on the ocean Like there's no way you can find everything. I am a big believer in Atlantis. I know that freaking exist Lemuria, all of those places but like with Bigfoot, like, going back to what you said, native Americans actually have folklore on him, like all of them. Oh yeah, these are groups of people that didn't have cell phones and they all have the same yes type of encounter with this creature. And then when settlers started moving in west, it was like 1800s I want to like early 1800s, I want to like early 1800s, late 1700s they started reporting sightings of this Bigfoot creature and I do think, like, in my opinion, because it's Bigfoot's an anomaly to me, I really going to make a point to get someplace where there have been sightings and then sit with myself and see what I can tap into, because I want to know.
Speaker 3:Let's do that together.
Speaker 2:Oh, hell, yeah, that would be so much fun. I'm down for it. But I've always felt like Bigfoot's like a crossover elemental, like very solid here, but also has spiritual qualities. But also has spiritual qualities because people have reported seeing lights around Bigfoot before they've seen him. But I also feel like he's very real, like he could bash your head in, because they are very territorial.
Speaker 3:I just think they have families, like I think that there's families and they're like, not into what we're doing and I don't know how evolved the brain is, but it's just like any species that learns to adapt to survive. And I do think they're very territorial, but I always get the sense because there's something it's protecting do.
Speaker 2:It's either their land, their families, because there have been. I mean, it's so interesting to listen to Bigfoot podcasts because they're there are grown men telling these stories and they're crying, and these are people that don't show emotion typically. So you know their spouses come on and talk about that, where they're like very concerned because they've never seen their husband cry before and he's weeping. So it's like a very spiritually charged, emotional thing that happens Because I think it challenges you and I.
Speaker 2:If we saw a big foot, I think we might be like holy shit, but I don't know how much it would really. Yeah, because we we see another day quote unquote, unnatural on a daily basis. Yeah, whereas like somebody who you have like these set belief systems, they see that and it totally rocks their world and then they can't make sense of life and it's like with Bigfoot. I just feel I don't know. It just seems like this spiritual thing that's happening Because a lot of the folklore with Bigfoot around Native Americans where they believe that if you saw him, it was a sign that you had to change your ways, like that you were doing something wrong and you had to change your ways and it's I don't know if that was storytelling down the pipeline, the pipeline. If that's a spiritual thing, it's. Bigfoot is such an anomaly.
Speaker 3:But I'm gonna go somewhere I swear to god, I I've heard a lot about southern ohio too, I mean, and people will hear a weird growl. There is a um, a story of bigfoot actually in Northwest Ohio, at McGee Marsh I believe it's McGee Marsh, somewhere not far from here, or maybe it's crane. It's one of those state parks, it's up along the lake Um and it's in the seventies and there's a there's like two or three reports at the same time and there's like they're hunting or fishing I don't know if it's dawn or dusk, I can't quite remember, but they were. They hear like this growling and it's like an unnatural, like they're. And here's the other thing the body knows right, like we know, when something's off and so they get this like hair standing up, like that's not right.
Speaker 3:And there were, like I'll say, three different reports it might've been two from different hunters and they ended up all like hearing this noise and kind of seeing something run and then it's shrugged off. But these people are like still telling these stories of like. Oh, my gosh, the time I saw Bigfoot. So it's like, you know, I don't know like this could be a species, that I do it and I liked your description of like. They're very much anchored here, but they have these spiritual connections Very much like. I mean just like, like anything here right, like humans can be that way.
Speaker 2:The animals are in and out of dimensions and doing stuff. Especially cats Don't get me started.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, cats yes, cats kind of freak me out sometimes. I'm not even kidding you and I'm very allergic and maybe there's a reason for that. But you, you know, like when I hear about that and that happened in the 70s, it's like okay, well, were, was, that species was bigfoot here, and then things have exploded so out in that area in the 70s wasn't really that populated like now. It's like port clinton, like people have like little like trailers and cottages and something that's really been built up from that Oregon shore point place all the way to like Marblehead and that. So you know they could have, and then they've been worked out just like we do, like the migration with anything you know, I don't know, are they good sw swimmers? Can they swim across Lake Erie and get to the islands? You know, I don't know, kelly's Island sort of has this really elemental vibe and so and there's a lot of land there where, like you could, you'd be walking forever. It's it's not um developed like Put-in-Bay-It's so you know it freaked me out.
Speaker 3:We can talk about that another time uh, yeah, me too, I don't know well, they're really kind of crazy spiritual experience there too.
Speaker 2:Um yeah, we'll have to write that down for the next time we do haunted locations yeah, so that is yeah and that is one of them.
Speaker 3:So I don't, I don't know as far as when they were here, did the glaciers affect where they ended up? You know that kind of stuff, and one time Ohio was underwater. You know there's a lot of geographical things that are happening there, but I I think, if you were to look, there have been Bigfoot sightings and I think almost probably close to all 50 states.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think almost probably close to all 50 states. Yeah, and it's, it's so. It's interesting to me when you talk about Bigfoot, because some of the elementals, like, I often question sometimes if somebody saw a Bigfoot or they saw another elemental but the only way their brain can go is Bigfoot, because that's like the social, socially acceptable type of creature that know, the united states has really pushed, because there's a another creature, wendigo, who they don't look the same as bigfoot but they're very tall and slender, but I could see how, in the blink of an eye, you would say that's bigfoot. That is Bigfoot Because Wendigos are 100% supernatural, where Bigfoot is like very solid but has supernatural abilities.
Speaker 2:If that makes any sense, it makes sense to me. I mean, that's how I always feel with them, because Wendigos they're tall, they're like six, seven feet tall, but they have horns on their head like deer antlers and then their bodies are like somewhat emaciated, so like you can see their ribs and some of their bone structures. Yeah, I know laura's making. They're like they're evil, aren't they? They're nasty, nasty creatures, so like I think coop saw one of.
Speaker 3:I think that is what was like sort of trying to like get to him but like our property. Oh, I hate when. Yeah, look it up, guys. You'll see one picture and be like no, thank you yeah.
Speaker 2:So like Wendigos are definitely supernatural. They're definitely never lived here. They're non-human oh, it's making me dizzy. They're non-human, but yeah, like wendigos are. Well, I have really bad back pain today, so you might be feeling that that would have been nice.
Speaker 3:I was like I can't even, like I'll just rake you while we talk.
Speaker 2:I can't even like I'll just rake you while we talk. Yes, please, um, but like, wendigos freak me out because they, they're okay. So let me backtrack here. So Wendigos, they, they come from, they're, they're like an Algonquin based legend, okay, and I put legend in air quotes because it's something Native Americans they just knew, especially like earth qualities and elementals. They just knew how to interact with the earth. They knew what it was, just instinctually, and they believed in their own abilities and what they were picking up from the earth. So a lot of our elemental belief systems and spiritual belief systems around elementals do come from Native American legends and you know spoken word. But Wendigos is one of them and they are. So Wendigos are cannibals. They eat people, um, and they can possess people into committing murders or push them into cannibalism, um. Wendigos have no other purpose here other than that that is why fucking straight up evil yeah, they're not here to protect anything.
Speaker 2:They are territorial of their own spaces.
Speaker 3:So if you go to an area and I've mainly the only time I've ever felt windigo energy was when I went up into canada felt when to go energy was when I went up into canada and and that's where the base of folklore for that is yeah, it's like you'll hear people talk about being camping and something like coming out of the woods yeah, they will stalk you.
Speaker 2:They're predators, they're.
Speaker 3:I don't they're predators, they're, they're actually of harry patter, the thing that lives in the woods um like sort of voldemort type oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, the skin tone and things, that, that. But you know what? See, when we talk about skinwalkers, that's what I picture with skin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, they're so shape-shifting, has like wool and like there has more like a gray tone to it, like the Wendigo, like this grayish, like brownish hue, but they're super strong and they run at like very high speeds. Like if you have a Wendigo that has locked it's. I don't know that there's a way to break out of that. I genuinely don't know. Yeah, if they decide that you are their target, they don't stop. And I have, like I have encountered situations where people have went on vacation in certain places and then they've had an elemental follow them back. Yes, because they've made a decision to lock in on that person, because they've made a decision to lock in on that person. Like, wendigos are very. They're a combination of like what you would see, like what we would picture like a demonic creature, look like With a deer, with something that's dying.
Speaker 3:Like all mushed into one thing, so like they have like, have like these really look like emaciated, like emaciated is that the right word? Emaciated. Yeah, yes, yeah, you can see like their ribs are like hollowed out a bit um.
Speaker 2:Their muscle tone's really not there, but they're very, very dangerous. Some people get them missing. I feel like in certain parts of wilderness areas, like in Canada, I feel like that's Everybody listening is like I'm never going on a hike again. If we have any Canadian listeners out there and you have any Wendigo stories, please share them. Yes, email us. I think Canada is beautiful. One of my bucket list items is to go to Banff. Did I say that right? Is it Banff or Baniff?
Speaker 3:I don't know, but yes, it's supposed to be incredible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I want to go there, and I'll just keep my sensors out for Wendigos and grizzly bears.
Speaker 3:I'm more afraid of the Wendigo than the grizzly bear Me too, yeah, but I'm just like, but every. Don't fuck around with that stuff.
Speaker 2:It's like every location has like those legends and even like skinwalkers Like when you brought up Voldemort, yeah, with skinwalkers they've got that white, pale skin and they walk on all fours which that is a trigger for me Things that crawl on all fours and chase you. Yeah, I can't fucking do that. I can't. I can't do that Because I've had spirits do that shit to me and like skinwalkers are freaky like that to me because they crawl on all fours.
Speaker 3:Very good shapeshifters. Yeah, a big tie with Native American folklore. We encountered a lot of that. I'm still thinking that is a big reason why we could not go to New Mexico on our trip. You know, if you guys listen to those episodes, I don't know. I was trying to think like if I physically encountered one. I don't believe I have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 3:I mean, I've seen them or, I guess, channeled or picked up on that, maybe with other people, but I don't know myself to have encountered. I feel like my guides really steer me away from a lot of that, like it's not allowed near me but a lot of navajo ancient energy that funnels through you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like skinwalkers come from navajo folklore. Yeah, and they're like negative. They're very negative in nature, because what did they call them? They? They saw them as like malevolent witches is what is how they refer to them Like people that were living, that died, that were witches. They turn into these skin lockers. So it's like the intention there is never good, because they're consuming your energy. They feed off of fear, they want to make you sick. Those types of things, those types of things and like the shape-shifting is really strange to me, because it's they're not shape-shifting to hide themselves because they're scared. They're shape-shifting to to surprise attack you, basically, or make you put your guard down, like if they turn into a dog.
Speaker 3:You're not going to be scared of a dog just talk, just put that in the file, that away in my no fucking thank you file but it's like not everything that comes from Native American is bad, because even in your area, gosh, where was I?
Speaker 2:I always get confused. I don't know if it was Gibsonburg or like somewhere, I don't know. They all kind of run together in that area for me. But I had an environmental walk out there and this lady took me on her golf cart back towards her back property. That's Elmore. I know where you were.
Speaker 3:That's Elmore by me and she had.
Speaker 2:I call them watchers and I've seen them before had I call them watchers and I've seen them before and I call them watchers. They're native american. They are skyscraper tall, they're huge, yeah, but they're protectors of land, especially native american land. So it's like if you're being respectful, you're fine, if you're being, they'll burn your goddamn house down and they'll cause problems because they're protectors of the land and especially if there are Native American burial sites around or there's lost Native American souls, they'll come to the area and they kind of protect yeah.
Speaker 3:And there is burial grounds over there and we know that Brush Wellman, which is now Materion. They are definitely in an area where there was burial grounds and stuff. There have been bones that have turned up in the river right near there. There's a lot in that area, my land, where I am from what the natives showed me. The spirit natives showed me that I am on a pathway, I was on the animal path, so the natives would take the animal paths that were carved out, that didn't run because this was all swamp. And so I'm on the pathway that went to where their villages and where you're talking about, I believe, was the village, their village, and sacred burial grounds.
Speaker 2:Okay, that makes sense, Because I was like because she was having activity in her home that didn't really have to do with what was happening in her backyard, but they were definitely present there and things like that with Native Americans. I think it's very important, like offerings, Like because what you're doing and you need to be aware of what's there first before you make an offering. Just don't go outside and start doing offerings, because you may invite something into your home that will take advantage of your kindness. So you need to make sure you know what you're dealing with before you do an offering.
Speaker 3:Intentions are everything, yeah, and protection. You know I've worked a lot to get my land, those intentions and protection and making that connection with the natives and saying you know, like I want to protect this land too, and when we did that too and when we did that, they have taken us in that respect, that you feel back and yeah and out in my area it's huge. The Native American energy is huge in the river and everywhere. Really like that In our area it's huge. I felt it so much on my property and the property you're talking about is a half a mile away.
Speaker 2:Oh, is it really? Yeah, I'm so sad with freaking guys. If I don't have a GPS, I will get lost going to the store.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is the closest road to me actually goes out down and straight into that woods. It's a, it's no longer a road, but that road that goes straight goes straight into the property that you're referring to.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, cause that was very high intensity and Native American energy, and you so in that person connected to you first and then ultimately ended up connecting to me, and through the craziest talk ever when I realized where she lived. Because I started telling her my experience and how, the one day I looked at chief and I said show me where your village is. And so he turned me and we pointed out like our hands in the way the direction of where that is is literally where her woods and houses. That's nuts. And she ended up finding me through you. So cool.
Speaker 2:Very cool and like that property there's like. Watchers aren't bad, like, but they're loyal to the native American culture that they're protecting. So if you as a white person and I'm going to use the word white person because that is we white people were the threat. So if you come into an area with bad intentions and you are not Native American, they will do everything to get you out.
Speaker 3:They just will do everything to get you out. They just will.
Speaker 2:She actually took me out to the woods too, on the golf cart, and I felt the most magical energy.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a bad thing. Oh, it was magical. I felt so much energy out there. Positive energy.
Speaker 2:Tree magic's also a big thing, a big elemental energy too that we haven't touched on. There's a reason why people feel peaceful next to trees is because they're alive. They're living, obviously, because they have roots and it's a plant, but they're also alive in another way, because they hold a lot of spiritual qualities and they are an elemental object. Like people who have big empathic abilities, you feel good around trees because you're connecting to that elemental energy, because they are peaceful. So where I live now, like I'm in the process of moving in with my boyfriend, who I love very much and I won't get on a big Ben tangent because I'll talk about him forever so anyway, where I'm moving to, in his backyard he has a tree that's probably a hundred years old and I love this tree. I love it.
Speaker 2:And he'd always tell me I hate this tree because the branches fall off and it's destroying the property. And I tapped into the tree one day and I was like this tree is angry. I'm like it's an angry tree for some reason and Ben's a great guy, like he didn't do anything wrong to the tree, but I think the tree was just irritated because I think it was like it's just, it got incorporated into the neighborhood and that's not where it used to live. So it got taken out of its original habitat and now it got stuck into a neighborhood. So I started giving it Reiki and I have some crystals laying around it and just putting, infusing those good intentions back into the earth and it has not dropped a branch.
Speaker 2:I can't even tell you how long, and Ben's like it's so weird, the tree hasn't dropped a branch and I'm like I know the tree is going to be like, let me give it some rose quartz and tell it thank for protecting the house and thank you for being here. And they will react to you in that way, like forests are calming and peaceful because of the trees. Like you think, a lord of the rings, when the trees come alive and they start like storming, that like towers or I don't my daughter, ariel, would know more about that but there's some storm, but they're alive and they're walking down. The thing that's how I see trees is they're very living but they're just taking a snooze right now it's like I can't wake up.
Speaker 3:I cried. We had to chop down my childhood tree in my yard. Growing up and it was like one of my best friends, this tree. We would climb it, my sister and I. I had a certain branch I'd sit on, draw or do whatever, and when we had to cut it down it got like infested with some bug.
Speaker 3:I cried Like I mourned that tree. I felt so connected to it. I still feel that way about trees. I hug trees and touch trees and and do all that, but I mourned that tree. They very much. They have personalities. Trees have personalities.
Speaker 3:I know that sounds crazy, but they do. It's like if you start paying attention to that, you will know that too. And not far from a tree will definitely be some type of elemental that we've talked about today. I feel like we could go into so many more. I know I mean I feel like this was a good like touching on some main ones. You know people are going to start Googling and doing all that. Some of them are going to freak them out, but message us your questions. I mean we love it. We've been getting some emails and topics that people want to hear about and we love that too. But, yeah, we want to hear from you, no matter where you are, and if you are listening in Canada, we do have Canada listeners. That is showing up Nice. So I would love, if you are listening from Canada, to please email us at ITL 1212 at gmailcom and tell us if you've had any stories or maybe there's folklore within your family. You know, maybe you've got your great great grandmother or somebody had a experience with a Wendigo.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'd love to hear that. Or even Bigfoot. Yes, please, we might even share your story on the next, on the next podcast.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. So we've got a few uh Canada listeners. So, um, let us know, and even here in the States, anybody that has anything. I would love to hear that. I would love to do another whole episode on Bigfoot if we can get some stories in, or maybe we'll bring some people on. So, yeah, this was elementals yeah, take care, guys. Thank you for listening, bye we'd love to hear from you. Email us your questions at ITL podcast 1212 at gmailcom.
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