Into the Light Podcast
Mediums Melanie Smith and Laura Hillkirk are sharing their weird every day lives with you. From spirit encounters to their healing journeys that led them to the place they are today. Together they will discuss healing, haunted locations, traveling as a medium, energy work, fairies and so much more. Join these besties as they share it all.
Into the Light Podcast
Guided by Spirit: How spirit guides can help us everyday
We delve into the fascinating world of spirit guides and how they assist us throughout our lives. Through personal stories and practical tips, we invite you to recognize and communicate with your spirit guides as they offer direction and support.
• Understanding, defining spirit guides and their roles
• Sharing personal experiences with spirit guides
• Recognizing signs and synchronicities as guidance
• The process of asking for help from your guides
• The importance of surrendering control and trusting the journey
• Encouraging listeners to establish communication with their spirit guides
This is Into the Light.
Speaker 3:Podcast with Melanie Smith and Laura Hilkirk. Welcome back, hey guys. Episode 11. Today we are talking spirit guides.
Speaker 2:Yes, all the spirit guides. We've heard your guys' questions about them.
Speaker 3:And I'm super excited about this, mainly just because I feel like this is such a part of our everyday life.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, absolutely. I don't day I go by without hearing from them.
Speaker 3:Well, and it's a part of everybody's everyday life, but I just think they don't necessarily know. They don't know how to communicate or they don't understand it. One of the big questions I get with spirit guides from clients is how do I know who they are, what their names are and what they look like?
Speaker 2:The name thing gets me every time, because I literally tell people it doesn't matter, names are this dimension's thing. Yeah, and over there, it really does not matter what your name is.
Speaker 3:No, because when you think about it, a name is such a three-dimensional thing. It is, you know, like up in the spirit world, like the ascended masters aren't.
Speaker 2:Like, hey, georgie, like we give them names or they can definitely give you what they would like to be called.
Speaker 3:Right Past life name was or Well and I think that's a good like jumping off point for us is to sort of talk about our guides and how we do see them, and I want people to keep in mind so we can see a lot. But that's because we are seers, we are people in the best way I describe to people. Everybody has intuition, but you might have knowing, feeling, seeing, might have like one of the ways. I think the reason we're able to do what we do is because we have all of the ways, intuitions coming in and always, you know, um, I obviously see spirit guides of people. Um, if I don't see them in a session, I'm hearing them. That's what's guiding me in a session, um, and we see each other's and it's really funny, we kind of nickname them. So it's like, not like I have a guide and I call him Abe Lincoln, not Abraham Lincoln, but he's very tall and he always has on this like top hat and so he reminds me of that.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've seen him a few times and I'm like it's Abe, abe's here, it's.
Speaker 3:Abe, and he's the main one. I have a Native American shamanic woman that comes through a lot. They change, you know, different times in my life what I need some step forward. Like the Native American medicine woman, she steps in in sessions for me.
Speaker 2:You've actually seen your hands change into hers? Yes, during sessions.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I'll look down and my hands look like they're a hundred years old Now. Could somebody else see that? No, my hands would look normal. Could somebody else see that? No, my hands would look normal.
Speaker 3:Um, abe tends to step in, um, like with my descriptor. Yeah, he's more like in the decision-making. He shows up a lot for me when it's like I know what I'm supposed to be doing or shifting or going towards and I don't love change, so I'm always kind of like but this feels really good because what I'm doing is working. So why do we got, why do I got to do something new? And so he'll kind of show up and like look at me with a stern, look like you know what you need to do, so you need to do it. And that's when I've seen him most. He steps in, like when I was to start sharing a blog, he was there, and so I always know, like I get this feeling like okay, we're, we're about to do something new.
Speaker 3:When Abe shows up, he's sort of like the voice of reason. Um, my grandmother. So when we talk spirit guides, they are usually like a highly ascended frequency. Um, there are ascended masters as well that are just very deeply knowledgeable people Uh, they're not people, um, I don't really know what to call them. They're guides, they're guides. And then you have loved ones that can be a part of your spiritual team, that are there to help, like in a supportive role. I would say. My grandma is on my spiritual team. She shows up often as this, like voice of reason and a very loving, guiding energy. So you got your spirit guides and then you have a ton of angels, like a lot of angels here or there.
Speaker 2:Everyone has angels. I haven't met one person who has not had at least one. Yes, and the amount of guides that you have is very individualistic, yes, and it's interesting how it gets assembled prior to you getting here, because the way that my understanding is is that before you reincarnate back here, you have a team of people that you get to choose who's on your team to be a spirit guide for you and to help you through the obstacles that are going to come up in your life. They help keep you on track, basically with what you're meant to learn here, what your soul's meant to accomplish. So they're like little bookkeepers. They're like, hey, bitch, you should have turned right when you turned left, so now we have to get you back on track, to go in the other direction, right, and they're always that, like you said, like that push or that nag, like hey, you need to do this. And we have free will here, regardless of.
Speaker 2:I'm not a fatalist, I do not believe that we're fated Like you are just meant to be that way. So, no matter what you do, you end up at X, y, z. I'm not a fatalist, I don't believe in that you have choices.
Speaker 3:There are choices and directions, and that leads you to where you go for sure.
Speaker 2:And you finish your lessons or you don't, that's your choice, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there's just so much to dive into here honestly, to unpack it is, and it's like you know what is their role and and why do bad things happen? Still, if we have spirit guides and things like that, and the short answer of that is life is supposed to be messy, there is supposed to be pain, and I know from a lifetime of pain and grief, and in you as well, that if you allow it, it can make you a better person. There are certain lessons, no matter how horrific, um, that you have to have in order to become who you've become. I can't be the person even talking on this podcast right now had I not lived through the things that I lived through and so, um, having spirit guides, you know, I think people are like why this, this and this obviously have no guides. That is not the case.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 3:Yeah so there's choices. A big choices yes. And other people's choices affect.
Speaker 2:Yes, that affect us. You could choose to take all the bad things that happened to you and then just allow yourself to be depressed for the rest of your life, which I did for three decades.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did. I made a choice to take the negative things and, um, and take those things and make them kind of like a pouty woes me feeling, and so we do. We have a choice and um, so they're, they're there to help us. Um, I want to hear, like before we dive into the rest, I want to hear about your spiritual team and when you met Wu. I want to know when you met Wu.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord. So I've always known I've had some sort of divine guidance, because I really feel like I should have died, like in my late teens, early twenties, because of the way I was living my life.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's a miracle, I'm so alive. I think that all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm not ashamed to say it, like you know, I drank a lot, there was drug use, I made really bad decisions. Um, I was very unfocused, I did not have a direction for my life and there were really bad decisions that I made that should have killed me. And somehow I just knew, okay, you can't do this or go this way, instead of that way, and I would just kind of listen to that, not knowing what it was. And when I got into my 30s is when I first started seeing my guides and I had no idea who they were, because I really didn't wasn't aware of my abilities yet. Um, to that degree I knew I had them, but I didn't know what they were. And the more that I started focusing on my abilities, the more I started seeing my guides. And I have a mixed bag of people over there.
Speaker 2:But I basically work with three main sectors is what I call them, and there's probably more, because you know you've seen the alien before, and then we saw the Triton guy with the water. Yes, and I've only seen those two like maybe twice each, but the other ones I see every day. And I have a coven, I have my Celtic witches, they all have red hair. They have hoods and cloaks. I've encountered them, I love them, and they always come with crows and ravens. Those are what I work with a lot.
Speaker 2:And then I have my angels, who they come in for, basically like protection, or if I need like emotional support, my guides protection, or if I need like emotional support, my guides, my, the Celtic witches. They're very. They are emotional, but because they care about me, but they're not outright emotional. I feel more emotion with my angels that come in and work with me, oh for sure. And then I have Master Wu, who I started working with him maybe like four or five years ago, like when we first met, yeah, when I got attuned to Reiki, which I feel like we sort of nicknamed him that because I was like whoa well he looks like.
Speaker 2:He looks like the master from Kill Bill, with the long like like beard and like long white hair, and that's what he looks like. And he came in when I got Reiki attuned. It's like, yes, that attunement brought his-. That's when it was.
Speaker 3:I could not remember how we came about that, and it's like I just always see him when I see you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he's always there and he's very vocal with me, me, yes, vocal. Like he will smack a bitch upside her head sometimes and I'm just like damn woo, like it like okay, is this what I need to do? Like Jesus Christ, like can you like, can you not yell at me? And it's like not yelling. But it's like this fatherly and his English is kind of broken, it's a look fluctuation and what he's trying to say. His energy is always consistent, but he is very prevalent and when I do Reiki sessions or when I do spirit guide readings, my guides are always with me helping channel that energy, even when I do basic general readings or Reiki and I think you're the same way, laura but they always protect me when I'm in sessions. So it's like they like surround me and if something comes, up.
Speaker 3:If something comes up which happens to us where it's like, oh, we didn't see that. It's like I know, something's not good when they start like more of them show up, not just my normal.
Speaker 2:Because it's like that's what it's like when I feel like I'm in danger or something negative will happen. They push up almost on my back because they get so close to me, because they're trying to bubble me in. It's like zip me up and I'm like, oh shit, what's about to happen? What's about to go down, like either this person's not good, they're crazy, they have an attachment, somebody's going to try to do something they shouldn't. It's one of those things. Sometimes I hear what's going to happen and sometimes I don't.
Speaker 3:You brought up the crows and it reminded me you know a big some of my guides. I connect heavily with animals the eagles, the hawkss those are really big guides for me. I mean, when I tell you I get messages, I look to the sky for a lot of divine guidance. If I'm looking for a missing person, I'm looking for my bird friends to help me in that process. So animals can absolutely be a part of your spiritual team. And I have animals that just show up Like I know.
Speaker 3:This just happened again the other day the great blue heron. It's the middle of winter. I don't see them, obviously, in the summer I see them a lot and I kayak and I know when I see a herring like a great blue heron and they are out of the normal places, I would see them. It signifies to me that big change is coming in my life and the other day I was coming down Route 20 and one was along the side of Route 20 by the ditch, just staring at me. I was like, oh great, so that change that I keep feeling is definitely coming. Now it's confirmed with the birds. So they talk at me. I was like, oh great, so that change that I keep feeling is definitely coming. Now it's confirmed with the birds. So they talk to me, the birds talk to me, so animals can be a part of that team too.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and your guides can use them as signs, because everyone's always looking for signs. How do my spirit guides communicate with me?
Speaker 2:And animal references are a big one, but then also angel numbers like 11, 11, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 1 2, 1, 2 yeah those type of numbers they'll use to communicate a message to you and because not everybody is clear audience or they don't have the gift of sight or vision, so they'll get to you in ways that you can't deny is happening because it becomes so repetitive and you're like, okay, let me take a pause here. What's going on? I've seen this number now for six months straight. It's on a receipt, it's on somebody's license plate for six months straight. It's on a receipt, it's on somebody's license plate. It comes up on the clock every time I look at it, or it showed up on a TV or wherever it pops up.
Speaker 2:If it happens consistently like that, your guides are trying to give you a message and those numbers have different vibrations and you can look them up. I mean, Google's a great source, but always check your sources of where you're reading. Yes, Anyone can type anything on Google. Yes, so I always like just so you guys know like a good resource there is. It's called Sacred Scribes, Angel Numbers, and whoever created this site is a flipping genius because it is paragraphs and paragraphs of what those number combinations are. So you can type in 1111, sacred scribe, angel numbers, and it'll pop up and the message is always on point, Because I do get a lot of number signs. Do you? Do you get them to you Like?
Speaker 3:I definitely still do, um, but in the beginning of my like spiritual awakening, if you want to call it that, when I started reconnecting to my intuition, there was tons of the 11, 11. Um, yeah, I see 11, 12, which is my birthday. Fours I have always been connected to four since I can remember, even as a kid. Four, four, four, four, 44,. All these things were connected. It's a huge thing that I see on the clock, um, if I wake up in the middle of the night and look at the clock, it is always two, two, two, three, 33 or four or 44, five, 55. Um. And those numbers show up in different times. For me I can go all day and if I pick up my phone there's always some number connection and I feel like that's the first way that your guides generally are trying to get your attention.
Speaker 2:It's through numbers, through numbers.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's most common.
Speaker 2:I agree with that they can grab your attention with, because some people they write off what they see, yeah, like as a coincidence, and they don't really pay attention to it, especially like animals, like certain people will see birds, or they'll see deer a lot, or they'll be drawn to cats, like things like that where your guides can use. But people tend to write those things off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you see 1111, you know, for two weeks straight somebody's trying to get your attention. And then the question I get asked. A lot is okay, but I don't know what that means. What are they trying to tell me? I can't hear them, I can't see them. I always tell people, a lot of times the number. It can mean like yes, you're being supportive, you can look up an angel number, but a lot of times it's just them saying I'm here, you are being supported, talk to me the best way. Okay, what do we do with guides? Well, your guides want to help you, but you need to ask for help.
Speaker 2:Want to help you, but you need to ask for help, exactly, and they can't be a bystander either.
Speaker 3:They can't. They will step in without you sometimes, but, um, I have people all the time and I'll always tell them just try it out. I want you to do it for a week. You'll be amazed, and I get a message within a couple of days. I can't believe how simple that was, because we over like we make everything overly complicated. But it's as simple as you ask for help. But what does that mean? Ok, do you get to dictate it? We are we like to control it. So if I wanted to say I, I need financial abundance. Ok, that does not mean you buy a lottery ticket and win $3 million, because obviously $3 million will ruin your life. I know you think it's gonna help you, but it won't. What that means is you ask for help and then you don't get to decide how that help looks and that money will show up. Maybe it's an extra $20 you find on the ground, or you get a refund because you overpaid your insurance that you didn't know, or you're a server and you end up with a really big tip. Whatever that is, it's going to be less dramatic than what you want it to be and sometimes it is dramatic, but you need to ask for help and then you allow them to step in.
Speaker 3:The best example I can give of this is before I was in the place I am now. I was at another shop in Toledo with multiple people in it, and I felt like it was time to leave. The country had shut down. It was 2020. Literally, this was not a great time to be running a business, but my kids were being home. My kids were home and they were younger, so I needed a space. So I asked my guides for a room. I said I need a room closer to home because I was driving 45 minutes. A room closer to home to rent, to be able to continue doing this work that I knew my soul was supposed to do. And within literally 24 hours to 48 hours it might've been two days, I think it was less than that Somewhere between 24 and 48 hours later, I got a text from someone that was like are you looking to rent?
Speaker 3:Someone that did not know that I was looking and was like there's a spot in Woodville that's open, and so I asked for a room, because me and my thought process said I just need a room. And they were like you need a building, you need a building, and so that's what they gave me, and I also wasn't thinking Woodville. I was still looking like between here and Toledo. I thought anywhere, I did not think Woodville, I thought no one will come here. And here I am five years later with people driving from all over to come here, and so that's an example of I asked for help. I tried to control it. I was like this is what I want or need, and then they showed up with what I really needed.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing, though. Like you said, a key word control there is like you can't go into talking to your spirit guides dictating to them how you want it to go, because you won't get what you're asking for, because there's a certain way that your life has to pan out and there are certain things you have to experience and endure, and they're there to put things in your way so that you can accomplish what your life purpose and life theme is here, along with learning those lessons. So, like you said, the lottery yeah, I wish I could win the lottery, but there's a reason why.
Speaker 2:I don't get lottery numbers. I can't pull lottery numbers.
Speaker 3:No, I hate lottery.
Speaker 2:But I can't get into lottery numbers. It's such a gross vibe. I'm not meant to win the lottery. That's not a part of my path. Because if I win the lottery, quite honestly I'm going bananas. I'm going to pay off all my debt, I'm going to move, I'm going to live the best life ever. Not that my life isn't good now, but just saying yeah. And it might ruin your life. I wouldn't be the same person Because money tends to ruin your life.
Speaker 3:Too much is you can have too much of a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and as I'm not meant to not do this work, so lottery's out for me. But the control portion of it, you can't dictating, you just write down what it is you need. You have to trust.
Speaker 3:You have to trust in them and let it go, and it takes practice. But now it's like I ask for help every day about all kinds of things and you can write it down. You could say it out loud or you can say it in your head. I talk to my guides a lot in my head. I'm constantly like I need help. But it's like in my head help me, help me. I'm asking for help all the time. Help me protect my energy, help me with XYZ problem.
Speaker 3:I had somebody that really was a beginner in all this stuff and I said just ask for help when you get stuck at work. And so she asked for help with work. She was doing accounting work and she couldn't find a number to audit, to balance, and so she tried it. The first time she tried it she said I'm just going to ask for help, I just I'm frustrated, I need help finding this number. She asked for help, got up, walked away, came back and it was like plain as day in front of her face. I got a message saying I can't believe that shit worked.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yes, people are amazed by it because it's like, yeah, you really do have a team over there that are willing to get in and help you accomplish whatever small task. It is versus a large task, and it is a trust building process, because if it's not something you're used to doing, you are going to need little things like that to start you out, where then you start getting into the bigger things, like help, help me direct my life. Like you know, when I was married, I would always ask them for help, like I don't know what to do. Right Thing is, I knew what I should have done yes, with the leave but I did not.
Speaker 2:And then what happened was the universe made it happen anyway, and he walked out the door and it was literally the best thing that's ever happened to me. And then what happened was the universe made it happen anyway, and he walked out the door and it was literally the best thing that's ever happened to me. And at the time I thought my life was ending and I was like, oh my God, my life is over. This is the most depressed I've ever been. And then my guides really walked me through that whole process and really pushed him out of the way so that I could walk into much better things in my life and heal from something that was traumatic and learn a lesson from it.
Speaker 3:Well, and that kind of goes back to what we kind of started the podcast, this episode talking about with. We have choices and so I always tell clients you have a choice and you know. People know you don't have to come in and sit across from me or sit across from you to get guidance to know what you need to do. People already know what to do. So I always tell people you have this fork in the road. You can either continue doing this X Y, z or you can go this way, and both will be hard. But you can keep digging your heels against what your intuition and your guides are showing you and telling you and guiding you, but eventually you will go to the other path or it's going to get even harder. You can tell when you're not listening to your intuition because you keep hitting walls.
Speaker 2:Or you repeat the same lesson over and over again, in different people, different situations, and you're like okay, it's clearly, I didn't. Clearly I missed the boat with something I was supposed to learn, because now it's the same shit again, yep.
Speaker 3:And it'll come back around again. And it's no judgment, because, my goodness, me and you both have been on the end of it. I have spent decades reliving the same lesson over and over again until I finally took control, and now what I find is those same lessons. Every once in a while they pop back around and, instead of it being the lesson, it gets to be the test and you get to decide is this going to be the test that I pass or am I going to be in this lesson again? And and I now, through all this healing I've done I can recognize it and I look at it and I go, oh, that's what that is. Yeah, I have a choice. How do I do it different?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just didn't. You, you don't have time for it anymore and you're like no, no, let me bypass this real quick.
Speaker 3:Let me make this last five minutes instead of five years. Let me just get rid of it. Amen to that, because I feel like it's like for me three decades, three and a half decades, of the same lessons and misery and and all of that. Um, when we talk guides and again it's just we're going to kind of be springing off into these different topics within it because we can talk for so long, but the the the main idea of talking to your guides is talk to them, ask them for help. That's the simplest version of that.
Speaker 3:Um, but I want to talk about the protection component, because I think we both have that as well, and how our guides lead us to people that we need. So in our life, we, we start with people and some of those people are lessons. Right, I mean, that's the stuff we're talking about. We have, we have people that are lessons and as we learn lessons and sort of tackle those, we we pass that test. It opens us up, changes our frequency and our guides have a big part of bringing people into our life and connecting us in a way.
Speaker 3:Like I know, my husband and I met that that was supposed to happen. We met on a beach on spring break with thousands and thousands of people, and the synchronicities are wild. Like he ended up being the hotel room below me and ended up being he was best friends with my ex-boyfriend that I was literally drinking away that broken heart on this spring break. He ended up being his childhood best friend Get out of here. Are you serious? Yes, that shot his eye out with a paintball gun. Like we were on our first date on spring break. Everybody was making fun of us. He he would not stop. He kept asking me out and I was like people don't go on dates on spring break. That's not what happens on spring break. That's the point of this.
Speaker 3:Yes, we are out to dinner and finally, like getting past our names, and I'm like, okay, where are you from? Because he said Cleveland and so I didn't know. And when he said the town he was from, I, I was like I like literally stopped speaking and I was like, oh, do you know so and so? And he was like, yeah, even crazier, I had been in his house. So my now husband I had been in his home for a few minutes with my ex-boyfriend went to pick something up for a ski trip and I just stood like right like a step inside his doorway and I remember like being like, oh, there's this short guy by the fireplace and it ended up being him and we didn't even make that connection until, like, we really started dating.
Speaker 3:But from the moment we met, we really never stopped talking and there's been rough patches and all of that. But when I tell you, we went on spring break in Panama City. I met him and found out the next morning when I heard him talking about me when I went out to smoke a cigarette I was a big smoker. Then he was the balcony below mine, so again, like something led me to meet this guy out of everybody. Well, and it's interesting.
Speaker 2:You said synchronicities, because I do think that thing. I do not. I'm not a believer in coincidences.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:When things sync up the way that they are, and there's people put in your place that you've crossed paths with before, and you start finding these similarities and it becomes kismet, and there is an energy frequency there where your guides, your team, their team, the universe's plan for you, they all align and push you into the path of other people. And that's where those synchronicities become such a validational tool and people don't look at them as like, oh, it's a coincidence. No, that's a validation of something that was meant to be and meant to happen good, bad or indifferent. It's a validation of that good, bad or indifferent.
Speaker 3:It's a validation of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, and I can remember thinking like I don't think I had this, like cosmic awareness.
Speaker 3:I mean I was drinking and smoking a lot of joints on the beach, I mean. But I can remember thinking this is really weird, like there, it was like weird thing after weird thing and I remember calling my mom going this is strange. Like it was like one thing after another and it was like when I found out the connection to the ex-boyfriend I was like what is this? This is so weird, so weird, so things like that, meeting people. I want to hear about your connection in sort of like that. What the cosmic thing that happened with current boyfriend?
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm going to try and get through this story without crying. If I do, I'm just warning everybody now. So I was married for 22 years and ended up getting divorced, and for three years I was single. I had no interest in literally dating at all. I was like zero. I was like it's just going to be me and my dog, Dallas, ride or die. I got a tattoo of him on my thigh. I'm like, yep, that's my man. I'm going to live my life.
Speaker 3:My forever man Dallas.
Speaker 2:Other people complicate things. And my guides had told me. They said, listen, write down what it is you want in a man. And I laughed and I said, okay, here's a tall order, good luck with this. And I mean I had things in there never been married, no kids. That is a rarity to find in anybody. I'm 45 years old, right In your 40s. People have a history and they have a past that usually involves kids and spouses, like myself, and I just didn't want to deal with it because I wanted to be number one and, yeah, it was a selfish thing to write, but it was my fucking list. So that's what happened, amen. And there were other things on there, like appearance was never a part of that, because I wanted a real connection. I wanted somebody to have a soul connection with and that's what I wanted. And I laughed and I told my guides I said, well, you're just going to have to drop them on my front porch because I don't go anywhere. And I laughed and I set the list down.
Speaker 3:And she's not kidding, she wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I still don't. It's rare I get out and do anything like that involves clubbing or drinks or anything like that. I'm kind of old lady for life over here. But um so you know I had my list and you know Laura's like Melanie, just do dating sites, and I was like I don't want to and she's like no, just do it.
Speaker 3:And I was like I'm like you gotta do something. You can't, man, while you're sitting on your couch doing nothing.
Speaker 2:Listen, I was perfectly fine watching my 600 pound life eating Doritos. Okay, I know you were, but I said okay, I'll try. I'll try online dating. And it lasted for what? 36 hours.
Speaker 3:It was really bad advice. I gave horrible friend advice. It was bad.
Speaker 2:I mean, I've never seen so many dicks in my life, other than the lady at Buster Brown's. I was like I do not need to see another dick pic from an old ring-a-ling guy. I can't do it. So I got off the dating sites and I was like, I'm just done, I'm like, and I told my guides. I said if he's out there, I don't know how I'm going to find him, but whatever. So I ended up maybe like a month later that was in January.
Speaker 2:Actually it's the one year anniversary of this today that we're recording. Really. Yes, so it's a special day. And on this day a year ago I had a home party and didn't recognize the name, never met him before. So I show up on his porch, I ring the doorbell and he didn't answer, but one of his family members did, who I've done readings for before. So I walk in and I've done readings for this man's entire family, but I've never met him and he scheduled it for his birthday, which was yesterday, but they did it on a Saturday last year and so I'm doing the reading, the home party and everything and everything's going great.
Speaker 2:You know, all the dead people show up their family, they're just chatting away and towards the end, I look over and I see this woman walk through the dining room and I looked at Ben, whose house it was at. I looked at him and I said you have a ghost in your house, you have a spirit in your house. And so I started telling him all this information and her name was Eliza. She gave me how old she was when she died, all this factual historical information, and then she looked at me and she pointed at Ben. And then she pointed at me and she said you're going to end up with him, he's the person for you. And I literally froze because it's not like I go into people's houses and I'm like, yeah, I'm going to, I'm totally going to be with this guy. This has never happened before.
Speaker 3:No, and it freaked you out and it's like everything after that was fast, very fast, and it freaked me out.
Speaker 2:It's like instantaneous that party happened and there was like an instant you guys like had this instant connection yes, and the reason why she gave me so much factual information is because ben went to the library and he looked up everything. I said not because he didn't believe me, but because it was a journey for him as well, with his soul. And he looked up all this information and he messaged me. He's like I can't wait to tell you about it. And then we had another home party his family booked because I think they were trying to play a matchmaker a little bit, and then we started talking on the phone for hours and hours and now we live together and he hits every single thing on my list, every single thing. There is not a gray area. We don't argue, we have conversations. We still talk for hours. There is no goddamn honeymoon phase and I want to throttle people who say that, because our souls connected with each other and we both needed it.
Speaker 2:And Eliza, who was in the home, I do feel like functioned as Ben's spirit guide during that time because he was going through a rough time in his life and she was there for him during this and she still filters in and out Like I just saw her today. I haven't seen her in a couple months and I just saw her today. She comes in and she checks on him and she knows I can see him. So between my guides, his guides and Eliza being a catalyst, we were able to meet each other. And I needed that nudge, I needed a spirit to say, hey, pay attention, because I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3:And it's not that I even tried to fight it afterwards. I mean, we had many conversations where it was like this is not what's happening?
Speaker 2:I was like yes, it is. I called you on the way home and asked if I had a stroke.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't understand what was going on. I feel like this is happening. I'm like, oh my God, this shit is happening and it's a good example of asking for help. And you probably saw that going a different way or not at all, and they were like I mean they're, they're like I'm up for this challenge and but that is the only way to get you to meet him. Were through these things and these wheels were in motion for how long? Like even before that you asked for help, but, yes, they already knew. Okay, these people need to book a reading to make that connection and like all of these things that happen.
Speaker 2:And the synchronicity is like you were talking about with your husband.
Speaker 2:Yes, like I worked at multiple locations, his brother did. I went to the same movie theaters that Ben worked at. We were at the same bars during the same time, where we would have run into each other but just not known each other, and we were in the same places because our energy was always meant to be together. We were always meant to have some sort of encounter, and I'm grateful for it every single day. And I told my guides oh, you're going to have to drop him off at my porch, and instead they dropped me off at his and I met this man who's become I'm going to get emotional but become a huge part of my life and healing journey with each other. And I feel like Spirit and our guides had so much to do with this because he was in the same boat where he wasn't going anywhere but working home too, and I wasn't going anywhere but working home as well. We would have never crossed paths if it wasn't for this and if it wasn't for the nudge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I wouldn't have met my husband. He was going to college three hours from where I was. We didn't go to the same school, nothing. I mean he was born and raised two hours from where I am, but his college was three hours from where I was at.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's why it's like never.
Speaker 3:Coincidences, yeah, it's like all of these things intersecting, and the fact that I had been in his house and had no, I didn't even know him. I, he wasn't even on my radar, yeah. And then to go back to this place, spring break, that has thousands, hundreds of thousands of people at once. You know, I'm from the era where spring break was like MTV spring break big deal.
Speaker 2:okay, like I'm aging myself here, but this is a big deal, okay, like I'm aging myself here, but this is a big deal, and so bring it back bring back the real MTV man.
Speaker 3:So I mean, that is, these are our examples of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And there's been other things, obviously that have happened in both of our lives, where spirit guides have either intervened you from doing like getting killed or like being in a terrible situation. Yeah, and they, they intervene and they interact and you feel like a strong sensation, like, oh my god, like I can't do this, I can't do this and you almost get anxiety or a panic attack I've had so many my.
Speaker 3:my biggest thing through theme throughout my life has been this guiding force, my guides, removing me from danger or protecting me from being a part of something. That would maybe add more trauma and don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of trauma, even from the things that I've avoided to some extent. Um, but yeah, a huge, huge guiding force. Um, the biggest, the biggest one for me is the night my best friend in high school died in a car accident.
Speaker 2:Sorry.
Speaker 3:I was 17 and full of FOMO, so fear of missing out was big for me. I didn't miss anything. I mean, if I could leave my house and be out with friends every night, that's what I wanted to do. I was always wanting to be out with my friends and I had a big group of girlfriends and a big group of guy friends and we were sort of always all doing stuff together. And there was a weekend that all of them were going to a teen dance club this was this is also dating me and they were all going to this dance club called Casper's and I had been there a couple of times with friends before and I decided not to go. And so that day I worked. The short version of this is I worked. My friends were like, please come, and I was like no, and they all thought I was mad at them because I wouldn't go Cause it was so out of character, and I was like, no, I'm going to clean my room. So if you were to speak to my mother, you would know my room was a fucking disaster and I did not clean it unless I was forced to. Like, if I was grounded, like I'm talking dirty, like you could walk in my bedroom and not see the floor, and so I would never give up a night in a club with my friends to clean my room. And so that whole day I was like no, no, no, I'm not going.
Speaker 3:My friend, um Shannon, who ended up losing her life that night, rollerbladed, rollerbladed from Elmore to Woodville, which was, I mean, at least I mean I think it's like probably eight to 10 miles, and she shows up cause she didn't have her license yet and she's like please go, why are you mad at me? I'm like, I'm not mad, I'm just not going. It's like every fiber of my being and I had such an unawareness to it I I'm not going to go. And so, um, I might get emotional. I drove her home, went back to my house for a little bit and I drove her home and she begged me the whole way home and she got out of the car and she looked at me and she said, um, love you. And I was like, love you, I'll see you later. And it's the last time I would ever speak to her. And another synchronicity, before I go on with the story, is her mother, about two weeks before that, had printed off because me and another. Some other people would always pick her up and take her to school. She was the grade below us, but she hadn't gotten her license yet and she had printed off this newspaper article that was. It was like about safe driving, and there was a poem and there was a whole thing and I still have it and her mom signed it like take care of my baby, something like that, like when driving. And so that was two weeks before.
Speaker 3:Okay, then this happens. So that night I stayed home, I didn't clean my room, I ended up falling asleep. I had a horrific nightmare which I would wake up to, and in my nightmare which was the moment she was basically leaving her body, I had a dream that me and all my friends were standing around her and she was in the middle and she was like hovering above her body. And I would wake up and come downstairs in hysterics, hysterics. I was dry, heaving and having a panic attack and my mom is like what is wrong? And I was like Shannon's dead and she goes is like what is wrong, and I was like Shannon's dead and she goes. Honey, you had a bad dream. There's nothing wrong, you're home, you're safe.
Speaker 3:And I was like no, I'm telling her about the dream and 20 minutes later we would get that phone call and my mom. Like that still haunts my mom today. One, the awareness that I had of that, but two, that I didn't go and she's the only one that died. But everybody that was there that day had it has a trauma that I have, a different trauma, because I have grief and I lost somebody I love but I don't know who I'd be had I been there to witness what they witnessed, especially with the you know, alcoholics and drug addiction and things within my family. I I, I believe had I been there, I think I would have went a different way with a like an addiction.
Speaker 2:So you believe, like your guides put that on you to maneuver you out of that dangerous?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because there's no, because it's unlike me, and that that was what was so weird, and everybody was almost really thrown off that day. It's just not like me, and that has happened. I could come up with hundreds of times that this has happened, or even in my adulthood, where it's like you know, don't, you can't drink tonight, you can't even have one or two beers. And something happens where it's like if I had one or two beers, I don't know what would have happened. I would have reacted different in a situation or whatever, and so I'm always listened to that now, but as a teen I didn't have that awareness, and so that's what's happening for all of us. There is, there is a guidance that's happening to change the trajectory of where we're going if we listen.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing, if you listen, because everybody has that self-knowledge and I'll put that in air quotes self-knowledge it's that little voice, it's that little push, that urge, where you know you're either not supposed to do something or you need to do something and you're not doing it. You, you always, will have that instinctual feeling and that doesn't come from nowhere. That comes. That ego is such a big thing with people where we think like we're creating those things.
Speaker 2:No, remove your ego from the situation. That has nothing to do with what your body is doing and everything to do with how your guides are communicating with you through emotion or feeling, or pushing, or dreams, or hearing your name called, because that is a big thing with guides They'll call your name and when you get those feelings it is so important to listen to them because it's telling you something for a reason. You don't have to understand what it is and you totally could have went the other way, where you're like shut up, like you're being paranoid. Laura, whatever, I'm going to go do this anyway, and it would have been a completely different situation, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I think I have an awareness now. I mean I do this so much, we, we do this for a living, connecting with guides, talking and speaking. So I feel like the awareness we have now there's this connection. But you know, back in another time in my life I didn't even have an awareness that that's what was happening. I mean afterwards, yeah, I mean I sat with that afterwards going why wasn't I there, like knowing that there's no explanation as to why I would have stayed home.
Speaker 2:Right, and it's like you don't. I think people, and I think that's a human nature type of thing where we need an explanation for why we feel the way we feel, Cause it has to make sense, right, yeah. Well, it doesn't have to make sense like you're getting. You're getting these things from guides who are trying to help you. I mean, it's the same thing. Like how do I always know there's a cop there to slow down? Yeah. Or like how do I know to slow down because this deer almost ran in front of my car? Yeah, like it's not me, it me. It's not me, it's my guides, yeah.
Speaker 3:For sure. And if you're a hearer, you know. And people are always like how do I know if I hear? Well, you're going to hear, but it's not. It might be your voice in your head and it's like very clear, but the deer thing I always literally hear deer. It's like I slowed down and then the deer pops out.
Speaker 2:Um, I'll get an image. I'll get an image of the deer running in front of my car, and then I slow down and then there's a deer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's a good example of it's the way you are going to get that information is gonna be very unique to you, and so there is no one way answer. When it comes to your guides and your team, the only one the all sort of encompassing type thing would be just to really talk to them and ask for help. And then you have to connect with yourself and know how does your intuition work? Are you a seer? Are you a feeler? You know and maybe we'll do an episode on intuition where we kind of dive into that but your guides are there for protection. They're there to help you if you ask for it. And just to reiterate, that doesn't mean nothing bad happens. Exactly, it means you're being supported in whatever is supposed to happen.
Speaker 3:I don't have a good answer. I don't ever know why do some people die when they die? Why, do you know, some people die young and some people last forever, and I don't have a good answer for that. If I had the answer to that, you know, I feel like I would feel better about all the people I've lost at very young ages. Why?
Speaker 2:people, why some people get cancer, why some people don't some people get cancer.
Speaker 3:Why some people don't? Yeah, you know why do I have an uncle who smokes a pack a day and is well into his eighties and somebody else gets cancer and dies young. That's healthy and runs marathons? I mean, I don't. I don't have a good answer for that. Um, it's bigger than me and it's it's bigger than you know. We all have this path, but our guides are there and every single one of you listening, you have guides, you have angels. I hope that you start asking for that help.
Speaker 2:And it's. You don't need to do anything special, like Laura said earlier, you just simply need to talk to them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's that simple and pay attention. Start paying attention to those nudges that you're. Yeah, it's that simple and pay attention. Start paying attention to those nudges that you're getting, whether it's a number on the clock, the same cardinal you see in the same spot every time. Maybe you're someone that finds coins, or there's phrases, words there's a lot of different ways that. That is Initials. You could start to see initials places. So pay attention to those nudges.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're definitely talking to us every day, all day. That's basically their job, to be quite frank. Yeah, that is what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 3:And that's another. I'll have people say I just feel so bad because I already asked for help and I was like girl, my guides are overworked. I asked for help all day, every day. I'm just like help, help, help. I'm like a damsel in distress over here, help me.
Speaker 2:And intention and what you say is very, very important, because if you ask for abundance, well, abundance and what? What do you want?
Speaker 3:abundance in asked for abundance.
Speaker 2:Well, abundance and what? What do you want abundance in, exactly? That's a good point. You need to be clear and be very specific with what you ask them to help you with. And it's not because they're stupid, it's because you're dealing with energy. So it's like, if you need help with physical things, ask them and be specific with your health. Be specific with what financial information you need, be specific, and so you can't just say like, oh, I wanna have $500,000. Well, and then an uncle dies and you inherit $500,000. You're gonna feel bad, exactly. Be very specific with what your intentions are and what you're seeing when you're going to feel bad, exactly like. Be very specific with what your intentions are and what you're seeing when you're communicating with them and it helps you so it's abundance can be abundance of um depression, an abundance of joy, an abundance of financial abundance.
Speaker 3:Do you want an abundance of unconditional love? I abundance of financial abundance. Do you want an abundance of unconditional love?
Speaker 2:I mean what are you?
Speaker 3:looking to have more onto you.
Speaker 2:Like that's why I made a list. I didn't want a boyfriend, I wanted a man to share my life with, right yeah, that's what I wanted and that's why I made a list and it took me a minute to write down everything because I was very picky and you know, at my age I am a work in progress.
Speaker 3:I am a recovering control freak. I'm in recovery every day. Guys Like I got to dig deep and it's it's about like, a lot of times for me it's timing because I can all I can see what's coming. Sometimes, so I'm like, well, let's just hurry up and get there. Or I have anxiety because I don't want to do the thing that I'm going to be doing, and but I have to be like, okay, well, that's like. Boston is a good example of that. I ended up teaching classes in Boston. I knew I was going to Boston. I, like for a whole year and a half before that happened, was like I'm going to Boston, I'm going to be teaching a class in Boston, and but I thought I was failing because it wasn't happening right away and it happened in the perfect timing. It happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your timing is very what you want and what's going to happen, the way that it should are two different things and you can. I've seen people force things and it's never good. No, so it's like a lot of you know I, I, a lot of women are. I have a lot of clients who are drawn to me that are female because they went through divorces and they know my story by following my page and what they don't understand is yeah, I have everything I've ever wanted right now, but it took me 24 years of a terrible relationship and three years single to get here. 24 years of a terrible relationship and three years single to get here Right and all the work in between.
Speaker 2:And trust me, from those dating sites, I could have apparently had like 15 boyfriends. Yeah, they all would have been wrong and I did not want that. So I was willing to do the work and take the time and it wasn't fun. There were a lot of days that I cried yeah, like I mean a lot more than I'd like to admit. Yeah, and a big healing journey to get to the point where I was then and I I wouldn't energetically if I had not done that work. I don't know if I would have been ready for Ben, and I'm so grateful for that journey because of the the outcome of it. Yeah, you'll get to a point where you think you're crazy, because you're actually have gratitude for all the shitty stuff you went through.
Speaker 3:It's the most fucked up feeling ever, but that that's how I am too Cause I've been. I've been this my whole life. I've been intuitive, I've had these gifts, but I couldn't have been 25 or even 30 and doing the work that I'm doing now, because, one, I had not healed my shit and, two, I had to live through some really awful things and then heal it to be able to turn around and now sit and hold space with people that are also grieving and having. You know, just like people come to you a lot of people that have been through divorce and all that.
Speaker 3:I get a lot of people that are processing their grief and trying to figure out a way through that, and I can only do that because I can sit and understand the pain that that person's been through Exactly. It's the timeline of that that trips people up sometimes, but don't give up. You got to have faith. You have to have faith and still ask for those things, but the biggest thing is letting go of control and realizing that how the things that are meant for you come isn't going to always look like what you think it's going to look like.
Speaker 2:Right and you'll be put in a position where you have to make a decision and I always tell people you're literally one decision away from a different life, because sometimes that's all it takes. Yeah, and you have to trust your instincts. You have to trust how you're feeling and how your guides are pushing you into that decision-making and just do it. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:Well, guys, guys, you, you have homework to do. You need to get talking to your guides and start establishing, establishing like a dialogue with them and building that trust. Um, and I want to hear back. So, if you start doing this and you start seeing some of those results, message us your stories, because we want to hear about them.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, and listen to those. Listen to those little vibrational things you're getting and the numbers and they're they really do love you, they're your number one fans and they do wish the best for you.
Speaker 3:Yes they absolutely do. This was fun. I feel like we could do another whole episode on this. Oh yeah, every time, you guys, we basically need two partners to every subject, but the good news is we're not going anywhere. We're going to have many seasons, so you guys can't get rid of us anytime soon. Nope, we're not going anywhere. Not going anywhere. But thanks for listening and join us back for next week. Bye, we'd love to hear from you.
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