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Timelines and Glitches: Exploring Parallel Realities
this is into the light podcast with melanie smith and laura hillkirk. Welcome back, hey guys. We have episode 12. Timelines.
Speaker 2:This is going to be an interesting one everyone, so try and keep up, because I get confused too.
Speaker 3:It's like a topic that if you think about it too much, your brain will actually hurt.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you can go down the rabbit hole with this one big time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I don't know how deep we'll go. I guess we're gonna go however we're supposed to. But I have such an awareness of timelines that it almost, I mean, I feel like I could sound like a crazy person. I mean I'm going to sound crazy today and that's OK, but this shit's real. So this is where I struggled when we talked about past lives, because I don't really view lives as past. It's like, yes, they're past lives and that's the most universal way to discuss that without having to verbally explain that to somebody for hours. But timelines are happening consecutively, so time and space are not real, they're not a real thing, and so nothing's linear. And that's where we get caught up. So we have time here, which was created by a white man to make you work more and for them to profit, for somebody to profit. You know the Native Americans weren't rolling around with a Rolex going well guys, it's 530.
Speaker 3:It's time to go in for some dinner. You know, like we have a natural cadence within the body, the nature, the body, the nature. We used to be where we worked and it was based off. You know, when the sun was up and all of these things.
Speaker 3:So timelines the best way I can describe it is there are a bunch of timelines running consecutively and you are a part of a lot of them. Yes, and it's something I don't fully understand. But there are parts of your soul, sort of learning lessons and all these different timelines, which also gets confusing when we talk about reincarnation and that sort of thing. Your conscious awareness is on the timeline that, like right now you're listening to us on whatever. This timeline is Okay and that's how it's supposed to be, because you aren't supposed to have too much of an awareness of it, because it's really hard to exist. It's already. I feel like for me, I have to be rooted here in the third dimension and go to the fit. You know, like I got to go up and down or cause. If you exist too much somewhere else, you can't exist here.
Speaker 2:Well, no, and that's where I think people get that feeling of this isn't real, like I've talked to people where they're like I don't feel like my life is real.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I feel like they're not resonating with their mental illness, schizophrenia, I you know. They just have this hyper awareness of timelines. The first thing I want to talk about when we talk timelines is deja vu. So I had somebody asked me this the other day when they were walking out and I was like, oh my gosh, we need to talk about this on the timeline episode.
Speaker 3:So, deja vu, you're doing something and it's almost like you pause or there's this wave that comes over you and you get this feeling like, oh my gosh, I've done this before or I've been here before, but you know you're in this right moment. So you could be like walking up to a bakery and, let's say, mellie and I go into Starbucks and I order a latte for me and a coffee for her. And I look at her and I say, gosh, that sounds good today and it's something as simple as that. And this wave hits me and it's like I remember saying that exact same thing to Melanie, ordering the same thing, being in this location. That's deja vu. So what does that mean?
Speaker 3:When deja vu happens to you this is at least my understanding from my experiences and what I've been shown it is because you have, in fact already done that thing, and usually it's split second before.
Speaker 3:So if you think about the timeline that you're on right now, if you were to take a piece of paper and you draw a line down the middle okay, that line in the middle is the timeline that you're on now Then I want you to draw eight more timelines on either side going out okay. So deja vu happens. I'm in Starbucks, had that moment with Melanie, but on the timeline that's happening right next to that, I did just do that and I'm me and my car looks the same and everything's pretty close to the same. And you might go over eight timelines over, and on that timeline I'm friends with Melanie and I still drive a Jeep, but my house looks different or I'm not doing the work I'm doing now. I'm still a secretary at a church, you know something like that. So that that deja vu happens and the reason you feel like, oh my gosh, I've done this, it's because you have and usually it's it's seconds before that on another timeline. But you're having this remembering, you are remembering what has happened.
Speaker 2:Um, that happens to me a lot, um that reminds me, yeah go ahead reminds me of like the multiverse when they talk in like the marvel movies, like there's a multiverse. So in every dimension or every timeline there's another version of yourself somewhere and everything's existing at once the past, the present and the future. It's all consecutive, because time really isn't real. And that goes more into like the division of quantum physics. When you start thinking of things that way, um which quantum physics?
Speaker 2:is real, scientific proven thing well, yeah, because there's scientists everywhere trying to figure out time travel, because they know that time is existing all at once. So to be able to travel through that timeline and it kind of reminds me of you know, I'm going to use a lot of movie references here because it just makes my brain work better but when they travel back in time to collect certain things that they need, you know, in the marvel movies so that they can defeat thanos, like they're going back in time and they're altering certain things when they do that, but they're also running into older versions of themselves, yeah, and trying to avoid that version. Well, where?
Speaker 3:they're getting time travel wrong is they're trying to take this physical meat sack that you're in and hop into a circle and go back somewhere. And it's like I mean we time travel all the time. I mean I've been, oh my God, it's like I just had something weird hit me I just lost the word for it. When I'm astral, projecting all the time, Like since I've been little, I have remembered going places, going there, like consciously going somewhere, you know, like we can travel in time all the time. I mean, how many times have we sat in a reading where I'm like okay, I'm in your house clearing. Okay, oh, your bathroom's to the left and I'm going to go straight and there's a closet at the end of the hallway. Okay, Well, where do you think I just went while I'm physically sitting with somebody?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's interesting you bring up astral projection because you can when you leave your body. So astral projections like usually happens when you're sleeping and some people it happens too when they're meditating but your soul leaves your body and, like your physical state, stays where it's at and then your soul travels and you can travel timelines. I've done it. I recall the one dream I had and it scared the shit out of me because I didn't know where I was at and it was a different timeline, it was a different dimension and I had no clue what was going on. And it was very real because when I woke up I was exhausted because I hadn't slept, and I was still scared from that experience. So traveling timelines through astral projection can absolutely happen can absolutely happen.
Speaker 3:So and I've managed, I've I have figured out a way to astral travel while I don't leave my body. I like half leave my body. It's a weird thing. I can be here and go somewhere else, Like I'm telling you, people get so freaked out where I will be sitting with them and I'm like in their house. I have cleared somebody's house and knocked shit over.
Speaker 3:When I'm swirling energy, like picture frames falling over and I'm like standing, I picture myself standing in the house and I can see their whole house. I've never been in their house, but I have like this view, Like I can see, I can see in to like the layout of their house, or I've been in like the jungle, or I mean that that's more like sleeping, but I can do it while awake and it's. It's something I've done my whole life and I didn't really connect to it until much later. And you and I talk about this all the time because I really, when I tell you I have an awareness of timelines, it really gets a little trippy sometimes for me gets a little trippy sometimes for me.
Speaker 2:Do you remember when, like I, freaked out over my bedroom?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you woke up and everything was different. So it was like the same but different. So I kept having this thing happen. I still have this happen to me where I was waking up every night for like a week and I was like looking for a baby, like I would sit up in my sleep and be panicked and like I would be up out of bed, like in my clothes, like when I would wake up I'd be like digging, I was looking for a baby. Okay, I don't have any babies. My kids are 10 and 13. At this time they would have probably been 10 and 8. And my husband was like, what are you doing? And I kept, I could remember, and I always remember my dreams, and I couldn't remember a dream or anything. It was a feeling. And I kept feeling like I was in this like old hotel and I would wake up. And old hotel and I would wake up and I was trying to find my baby, and so that was really weird. Okay, that's happening the whole week.
Speaker 3:And then I woke up on the one of the days of that week and I remember looking at my room. So my room I have all the furniture was in the same place, but the bed was moved. So where my nightstand was was the same. You know how, like you just know, like you walk in your room and like the flow of how all that is, like I had this like little altar area set up where I would do my meditating and then this stand and it was very clear like that was all the same. I had a wardrobe there and my bed.
Speaker 3:I noticed because I went I have eye drops, drops at night, I have dry eye and I have to. I reached over and it's like I couldn't reach the nightstand. It had moved over like I would say like maybe five inches and my bed requires two people to move. And I knew my husband wasn't going to move a bed, he's not going to like anything, and so I remember being like I had this awareness and there were certain other little things like, um, I don't know if it was jewelry or I can't really remember the baddest, the big one that I remember, but things were moved slightly and it's like I hopped timelines. So not to freak anybody out, but you also can jump timelines. I remember calling you going. Am I still me? Like, you know me. We talked about this yesterday because I was really freaked out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the way that I look at that and sometimes I don't really have an awareness of timeline hopping. Sometimes I do, but the way that my mind works, with how I view timeline hopping, is like it's alternate versions of reality. So it's more of like a transformative experience. So if you need to go to a higher timeline, then there's more of a potential for the future to have a better outcome. So it's like your soul will hop a timeline so that you can get to that higher space. So like if you make like an impactful decision or you are starting to change the direction of your life or you're doing something that you don't want to do but know you need to do, I feel like you jump a timeline and like the purpose of that is to get you to a higher potential of yourself, like that version of yourself.
Speaker 2:So like the whole timeline will shift and like the way I've experienced timeline shifts like that is, I will like lose people, not that they don't exist anymore, but they literally just are not a part of my life anymore. They fall away, they disappear somehow. They never contact me anymore. I don't have a desire to contact them anymore. There's no connection there anymore, because it's like I've hopped a timeline. So, whether that's it is a combination of a frequency change and then a timeline hop, because what you're, you can't stay in the same timeline and have growth. You always have to hop a timeline.
Speaker 3:I feel like that's just part of the process, and so like jumping a timeline to me and like what you're talking about reminds me of a merging. So there's also a merging of timelines. So there's two that are kind of similar, where everything's similar and they'll merge and you can really feel are kind of similar, where everything's similar and they'll merge, and you can really feel that. I feel like that's usually when a deja vu is happening. Your timelines merge and when they merge they're not identical in time and so that thing that you just did is what you're experiencing, where it's like I just did that If you hop a timeline, things are going to be really noticed more drastically noticeable physical, like your furniture moving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that is when you're gonna hop and it's the same thing. It's not so like a hop is going to be more timelines over a merger, is two coming together and that's a lot of time. You get the deja vu where I and I've only experienced the jumping thing a couple times and it's been pretty drastic, like everything is really different, like I actually feel like I look a little different. I know that sounds wild, but it's like I noticed things, um, and they're drastic, where nobody else in my home realizes that the thing that was a part of my house is just like no longer there massively.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to ask you questions here. Yeah, because what do you consider? This just popped in my head. So what do you consider glitches in the matrix, then, where, like, you see something that shouldn't be happening and that it's happening, or people? That, to me, is different.
Speaker 3:And I've had that happen. Remember when the sky was funky for me?
Speaker 2:And that happened to me like a couple of times, like with cars where I've seen them, I'm like that was just a truck and now it's a little sedan. I'm like what just happened in my brain? Puke or something like what is going on. So I call them always glitches in the matrix.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that's what.
Speaker 3:I call it too, and when we talk matrix it's it's like, really you're in this sort of simulation-y type thing but, um, yeah, so when that happens it's almost it is timeline related, but the timeline is sort of the way I see. It's sort of like the, the physical reality that you're in, and the matrix glitch is sort of the consciousness glitching. So it's like I'm still physically existing where I am and those things. Like if it merges, things can be changed. I'm going to tell you a story about, like me seeing another timeline.
Speaker 3:But when it glitches, the best way I can explain it is that's like your reality is glitching and and they're kind of go hand in hand, which does throw off your timeline too. It could be that you merge timelines and in that moment when it merged, it's fucking up the like energetic reality that's happening. Like when I saw I don't remember what that was, I think it was like blue or something and I was like it is raining, it's dreary, and I'm staring at this part of the sky that is crystal blue. There's no light coming through, like it was still dreary, but I was looking at. I remember I called you because I was freaking out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that conversation because you're like the sky is like split, this doesn't make sense so, and we've.
Speaker 3:and if you pay attention, there are those glitches where you see the same thing over and over again. My son has catches that a lot, where he'll be like when he was little he used to say um, there's parts of the sky that there's like boxes, where there's no colors filled in, like you can literally see and I couldn't even see it, and you'd be like that isn't right, like the sky is not right. I don't know if I'm explaining it right. So, like, timeline is your physical, like sort of reality, consciousness, and the matrix is the reality. That that's like like kind of encompasses it. It's sort of the thing that surrounds you in the midst. That that's like like kind of encompasses it. It's sort of the thing that surrounds you in the midst of that.
Speaker 2:And I don't think the Matrix is like sci-fi quality, like when you think of like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix I'm just there's a lot to that movie. There really is. That has truth. Yes, and it's like the. So when I talk about a glitch in the Matrix in my mind when.
Speaker 3:I use that phrase it more has to do with a timeline shifting, like another timeline coming into this timeline, and then it's like you'll catch small changes and I always call them glitches, like with the, the car, the car thing was very weird for me or it's almost like it didn't have time to catch up yet the way it merged, so like it.
Speaker 3:A good example would be like you, you were playing, you play Mario Kart, okay, and you can play that and it's working fine, but you do the upgrade or the update to it, okay, okay. And if, when it's doing that update, there could be glitches, like there's bugs within video games or things that don't quite get it right and sometimes it takes time for those to acclimate together, and you'll notice it, especially if you've been on a healing journey, a spiritual awakening that you're really connected. We my son and I, feel them in waves. So just the other day we were walking on a Chipotle doing a very like everyday thing and he got this look and he goes oh, a timeline just merged, like he felt it, and I was like, oh, my gosh, so did I. I was walking out and we noticed things and a lot of times it is the cars Like. There's like a repeat of cars, like it's a loop almost where something happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, the same car, the same license plate number and I'm like I just saw this car. I've seen this car three times now and there's no way they drove up, made a U-turn, then sped up to get beside me again. It's like it, definitely it's like a repeating.
Speaker 3:Or people. So when we walked out of Chipotle and he said that we were getting ready to go next door to get ice cream and he was like I swear, those three people they ordered before us it's the same three people and I hadn't been paying attention so I didn't know he goes, it's the same people. And I haven't even talked about like that part of it with him, like we talk about the feeling of it, and so I was like, oh yeah, and that can happen. You might look over and be like where, where do I know that person from? It's like you, that person priority just passed. You.
Speaker 3:Think about how busy you are. So think about if you're in a busy city and you're walking down the street and you have a destination you're going to, you aren't really paying attention to every single person that goes by, just like when you're driving a car. Maybe you're on the highway, you're not paying attention to every single car until you are. And then it's like wait a second, the same pattern of cars just passed me. The same pattern of cars just passed me. And so that's kind of what happens with the timeline. But that glitch that we call like in the matrix happens a lot too, and it's kind of trippy it is because, it's very trippy.
Speaker 2:I've seen it a couple times, like in terms of past lives with people, when I've done readings with them, where I'm like, oh, you were on a different timeline and did this the same time, you did that. And so when I do past life readings I'll tap into Akashic Records, which is just like a library storage of you, like it's your own personal library, your own information of you. And there have been times during past life readings where people have had overlapping lives because they were on different timelines. Yeah, so it's like very confusing sometimes when I do those readings, trying to explain that to people because they need to know both of them, and I was like, yep, you existed during the same quote unquote time, but in different planes, so you have overlapping lives.
Speaker 3:And, as we're talking about it, it's hard to articulate and explain it. It's like I have an understanding but it's hard to. It's so almost like makes your head hurt, honestly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like the timeline shifting, shifting, like it always makes me think of the mandala, the mandala effect, and it's like that makes me think of it all the time because it's like collectively known like the mandala effects, basically dubbed as a collective false memory. Okay, everybody, yeah, exactly everybody's remembering things different, like the Bernstein bears versus the Bernstein. There's a Shazam.
Speaker 3:I know I watched that movie. I have a memory of watching that with Sinbad yeah, I don't exist.
Speaker 2:And it's like Curious George with a tail or without a tail, insane. And then you've got like all these small examples where, if you were to ask, everyone knows who curious george is. I remember him with the tail, yeah, but then some people like no, he doesn't have a tail. Look at the book, there is no tail. And it's like and I remember reading the bernstein bears, e I n, yeah, not a I n. So it's like they dubbed it.
Speaker 2:I forget what her name was, um fiona bloom. I think she's like a paranormal researcher who coined that phrase because it's she called it a collective false memory. But what it is is people recalling timelines in a different, yes, setting. So some people recall a timeline like it's the same timeline but it's split. So then people have different recollections of certain things, like even movies like Star Wars Luke, I am your father. Or I am your father and I remember Luke, I am your father. But then people are like no, he doesn't say Luke, it just says I am your father and I remember Luke, I am your father. But then people are like no, he doesn't say Luke, it just says I am your father and it's just. It blows my mind, yeah, and I feel like that's kind of what you're getting at when you're talking about timelines merging, but it's like some people don't catch up with the timeline. Is that a thing?
Speaker 3:Is that why?
Speaker 2:they don't remember.
Speaker 3:And I feel like sometimes it's like maybe it's your guides, maybe it's what's supposed to happen, but a lot of times, like you made a choice or maybe you leveled up, maybe you sort of elevated your vibration, whatever it's like when they merge, they don't always sync up with what you're doing, so like especially when you have deja vu, that merge, but like you weren't quite there yet. So it's like you already did the thing and now you're already, and it could be like I'm talking seconds, which time isn't real, but I'm trying to put that in perspective like seconds where that incident happened and then within a millisecond you merge timelines. But now you have to. You're still in the middle of that process on the timeline when they merged, and so you're like whoa, that's when you have this moment of like what's happening, and then it leaves you. Think about it, you have deja vu, it's a funky feeling, it's sort of overwhelming for a second, and then, just like that, it leaves you and you're done and you're off in your living life and then you don't even remember it until the next time. You know, because you're, you are in a new timeline with a new consciousness.
Speaker 3:I can feel when I have healed something, that is like literally having me jump timelines to a place where something big happens, whether that's like in my work life lately that's what it's been it's like a work life thing where it's like, oh my goodness, like you know, have you ever met somebody that like maybe got discovered somewhere overnight and it's like, how did that even happen? If you were in a small town, you got a singer somewhere. It's like, all of a sudden, somebody just finds them, you know, and there's like a million good singers in the world, but that happens. It's like they jumped timelines. Something happened for that to happen.
Speaker 3:Or, um, you might like in your case, like even with Ben, that's guidance, but that could have also been you jumped a timeline because you finally let go and healed the trauma that allowed you to raise your vibration, to receive that relationship, and so we're always sort of merging. These timelines merge all the time and usually it's very subtle and you don't know. It's like we do little things. Like boop, like the thing that happened in Chipotle wasn't a massive ground shaking timeline merger, it was just enough and we're intuitive enough that we noticed it. Most people are not noticing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's interesting you say that, because when you're talking about small versus large scale, I always think about like a history that goes on in the world, where you can see a shift that's going to happen in history and it's you know, you could. It could be anything from as big as a war to a presidential election, to other things like that, where they pull the collective into a different timeline. So it's like everyone, because I feel like you can have individual timeline flickers or emergence and you're a part of a collective as well.
Speaker 3:Collective one, yeah, so all of us have a timeline and that timeline is a part of a collective energy as well, and I'm glad that you brought that up because so I got into a car accident just a little over a year ago and right before that accident, I'm pretty good at, like I said, existing here and not going too far into all these things. You know, like I, I'm always just enough awareness to be able to live here without crippling anxiety anymore and in all that comes with that, you know conspiracy theories and knowing people in government and also being like hey, I'm just a soccer mom taking my fucking kid to practice today. I don't need to get too deep into this, but there was some around. So my accident happened at the beginning of October of 2023. And that August before that, and I don't know if you remember this I had a horrific dream, and I know the difference between a dream that's a dream and a dream that is like prophetic or one that is like telling me something. So in my dream, I'm in my house and I can hear outside a man that I can tell is of authority and he is visibly like. I can hear that he is. It's not visibly. I can't see him visibly like. I can hear that he is. It's not visibly, I can't see him. He's audibly upset. I can hear a quiver and emotion and tears in his voice and he is saying do not leave your homes. It is not safe to come outside you. You have to stay inside. It's not safe to drink the water. All of these things are happening in my dream and in the dream itself, the part that I remember is like maybe a minute and a half long and it's just this man and there's sirens going off and I'm definitely in my living room.
Speaker 3:I woke up. It was like something horrible is about to happen to the world and I could not stop. I was obsessing over it. I was like telling my husband my God, we don't have emergency packs, we need water canned, we need all these things, we need to be prepared for what's coming. I didn't sleep. I wasn't sleeping well. That was like at the end of August.
Speaker 3:So basically, it was like a month and a couple of weeks before my car accident and I remember calling you even. I mean I was spiraling. I was truly spiraling because I could feel. I could feel that something was happening and I believe that something was happening or going to happen and what happened was the consciousness shift and it shifted timelines. And when we shifted timelines, it avoided which happens a lot. It avoided whatever what I believe was like a massive nuclear attack. It avoided that from happening and my car accident happened to literally stop me in my tracks because it was not good.
Speaker 3:I was spiraling and what they did is gave me a severe concussion and I couldn't even work. I couldn't use my intuition. It was really really scary, but I know that that happened because I couldn't snap out of it and then I haven't had that feeling like that since. It was really really bad. But that's an example of the timelines merged, shifted, we hopped whatever. And sometimes there are guides, the angels, there is a divine presence that is working to shift our consciousness. They're always trying to raise the consciousness and when enough people raise the consciousness together, we do split that reality. Um, and that's happened a lot in the last, really, since about 20, the end of 2019 there has been just a big push for the collective to continue to rise. But when you said that, I was like, yeah, that is a major thing where we avoided something because that felt I could feel it in my bones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like world events have always freaked me out, especially when you're dealing with timelines, because I do feel like the decisions of some people in power can really force a timeline shift in either a negative or positive direction. And you know I don't want to get into politics on the podcast whatsoever, because everybody's got to have a different opinion and a super low vibe and I just don't have the energy for it, to be quite honest. But there are decisions being made currently that are going to affect the outcome of certain situations and pull everybody into a different timeline shift, and that's current climate of everything where I do feel like I think what you felt in August was a precursor for basically what's happening now, in my opinion, and I don't think it's a nuclear war or anything like that, but I feel like it's going to shove us into something very different that everyone's going to have to get used to or not get used to, depending on where your thought process is with this. So Well and see.
Speaker 3:I see, I see it a little different. I'm. They show me like everyone talks about, like the new earth and the splitting and all of that, and I feel like we've been building up to it. And it's really interesting because there is a lot of chaotic things happening right now and normally I do feel really worked up about it, but it's. I feel, like the split has happened and it doesn't mean one earth imploded. We're all existing at the same time, but they're on different conscious, like waves of consciousness is how they show me that, and it's sort of like there's this stuff happening over here, but I don't feel it in the same way and I don't know how to explain that. But I don't feel doom and gloom. I feel like there is such a raise in collective consciousness, in a way that hasn't been before, that I feel like there are good, positive changes coming, but I feel like the way we experiencing them is going to depend on where your consciousness is, if that makes sense. At least that's the way they show me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I get what you're saying Spread of the earth.
Speaker 3:It's like the split's been happening, but I feel like it's a total split now, like I'm aware of these things that are happening, but like my guides are like that's not for you to stress about, like I'm so focused on what my job here is to do and what I can control on this timeline. But I also see what you're saying like and I don't disagree and there's horrible stuff happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not just saying bloom, it's like there's there's things that are combining here. I think and I don't see it as a split yet because I, the way that I am I feel like there's things that have combined Once other things get into effect. When you're talking about political decisions, laws, implementations on things. I feel like that's when the split's going to occur, because you're going to have people who go one way with something and then others go with the other, the other way, in a different direction, and everyone's passionate about what they think. And I think that energy pushes in and splits. And that's kind of how I feel when I look at this, where it's like that energy from the collective is going to cause a timeline split or shift.
Speaker 3:And I think I've already like I literally feel like I'm looking at a different earth, like I feel like there's two, like there's two existing and I'm looking back at one and it's like I don't even have the energy to put into anything that all these people are doing. It's like I'm already on another one and I'm like I don't, I'm not doing that. Like whatever that is isn't for me.
Speaker 2:It feels like it's going to cause like a massive split, and I don't know what that means when I say that, but that's like the feeling I get with this Cause. I think this has happened multiple times before, obviously, but for some reason this feels very significant and I feel like it's just ramping up. Yeah, like it's just ramping up and I maybe by summertime, I feel like it'll just be like crack, split, timeline shifts and there's gonna be some major things that happen as a result of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and they're, and they're always moving. It's like in that trajectory can change a thousand times between now and then. There's just so much. I feel like you can hack the matrix, so to speak. Yeah, it's really about where do you want to be? Where do you want to vibe? What's important? What do you pour your energy into? Where are you going to vibrate? Are you going to heal your shit? Are you going to pretend like it doesn't exist? And I think you know both you and I are what better example than where we've been and who we've been? And then the work that we're doing now. You know that's because we've done a lot of that work and continue to do the work. And I can't be here, even talking about timelines right now, if I didn't exist on some timelines where things were rough, and you know that that's a part of getting me. I always think of it like a video game.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm just you just got to put the work in, to do the level before you go to the next level and experience something new, and but they're merging all the time the time, yeah, and I always find it fascinating because you've got the timelines but then you have different dimensions that also correlate with the timeline, so like when we talk about aliens that can go through portals, like they're on the same timeline as us but they're coming from a different dimension. And I've always found that fascinating because then on another timeline there's a different dimension piggybacking off of that, so it's like this overlapping.
Speaker 3:It's infinite, timelines are infinite and it goes to the true facts that space and time are not real, and so that's a hard thing for people to understand. What do you mean? It's nine o'clock now. It's nine o'clock because somebody told you it's nine o'clock because you believe we have been programmed to live the way we live. That's what happened with COVID. Covid started the unraveling of our relationship with time and space. That is why the consciousness is raising, because people realize what the fuck?
Speaker 3:I don't have to go in and sit in a building from nine to five. That happened to you nine to five and you realize I get to do this my own way. I don't have to be a slave to time. Yes, you can make time. There are times where, um, maybe I'm running late and I hate to be late, truly but I've had times where I just say time isn't real, I'm going to get there on time and I just get there on time. There's times where it's like something should take 45 minutes and I left with 30 minutes and sometime I get there with five minutes to spare, and I'm not even speeding. You can do that. It's like you can make that reality whatever you need it to be, if you realize that that's time and space isn't real. That's, that's what helps manifest when you want to manifest things.
Speaker 3:Um, there was a really interesting and scary thing. So I was listening to a podcast years ago. It was called Mormon in the meth head. It was really funny. It's, it's no more, but it was a woman that used to be a meth head and extremely intuitive. Like on one of her wild trips she saw like all kinds of shit. It basically like cracked open her entire third eye being. And then there was the other guy, was the Mormon. So sometimes they talked about Mormon stuff and they talked about a lot of spiritual shit. And she was talking about timelines on there and they talked about the two cup method.
Speaker 3:And I want everyone to look this up and it still freaks me out.
Speaker 3:I've never done it, but you're supposed to be able to jump timelines by.
Speaker 3:Basically it's two cups of water, I don't know exactly, but you write whatever it is you're wanting on one cup and something on the other and then you drink them both and it's like you wake up and if you go on Reddit or other things, you'll read to people that do this and it doesn't always work out well because again you're messing with something there, you aren't. If you want to be married with three kids and or you want to be married to somebody else or something, let's say, and you do this, you're going to jump a timeline and your kids aren't going to be your kids anymore, that could happen. And so you'll hear people doing this and then they're freaked out because they're in a different reality and they are so stressed about it. So look that up and look up some of the things. That's wild. It's that kind of freaks me out because again, it's a little bit like magic, which I'm not like black magic or like where you're to me you're fucking with something you shouldn't be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't know if that's black magic. I I'm really careful, like I get sensitive with that because you know there's like negative connotations with like witches and practicing magic. You have to be responsible with what you're doing and it's like when you do something like laura suggested with like the two cup method, I I personally will never do that never, because I feel like I'm I'm messing with something I don't fully understand.
Speaker 2:And when you go into something ignorantly, you're asking for issues, it's you need to be responsible. Like don't take it as a joke and just do it, but it's like I do think.
Speaker 2:Like when you talk about magic and things like that, like that is like a magical intention and you're also using water and water's charged and it, you can program it and now you're consuming it and it could be a big recipe for disaster because, like we talked on the last episode about winning the lottery, like that's not a good thing, like that could really ruin your life. Yeah, so if you do this thing with the intention of winning the lottery and then you win it, you could lose your own family, you could become an alcoholic, you can I mean God knows what could happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because you're asking for one thing. You ask for one thing but you don't know what comes what. What allows you to get that thing? So what are you trading off for that? You could lose a lot, and to me that's ego driven, because it's like selfishly saying I need this thing because more likely it's not going to be a thing you want.
Speaker 2:Exactly. It reminds me of the movie Butterfly Effect. You ever seen that with Ashton Kutcher? It's like he goes back in time and he alters things over and, over and over again and he thinks he's doing the right thing in each one, but then there's always this outcome he didn't see, like someone getting blown up at a mailbox, or like their arm getting cut off or someone getting assaulted. There's all these like consequences for him changing the direction or the outcome the way that he wants it to be. What's like that two cup method? I remember you telling me about that and it that freaks me out.
Speaker 3:Freaks me out too. I would never, because they had somebody on and I can't remember. But um, like really fucked up things coming from that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's. And it does like you brought up mental illness earlier with schizophrenia, because if somebody, if somebody does a two cup method and you come back like you know, like okay, like you know what happened, but people around you, because you fucked with something, they're like what are you talking about? Like this is reality, it's like twilight zone for you and you could be like, oh man, they're mentally unstable, They've got some kind of schizophrenia now. Or like they're bipolar, because you're freaking out, because, like your husband isn't your husband anymore. Yeah, and it's like you wake up and just all of a sudden, nothing is the way that it was before, like they think you went no, thank you to that.
Speaker 3:No, no, absolutely. I mean, and that's the reality of, and I feel like when our timelines organically merge or do whatever they're supposed to do, it's because that it's putting us where we're supposed to be. Yes, yeah, usually there's times we're not where we're supposed to be and that has consequences too.
Speaker 2:Astro traveling when you're sleeping freaks me out because of the timelines going into different dimensions.
Speaker 3:I do that all the time. I've done that my whole life. I've been able to astral project even while awake my whole life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I try and stay away from it, like I've done it in Reiki sessions. I've done it like when I sleep I can't always control it. Um, like the one dream I had where I went to that different dimension and it was darkness, basically complete darkness. That was very scary, so it was like I couldn't get. I almost woke up feeling like I was still there. Yeah, it was the same timeline, but different dimension. It's very creepy.
Speaker 3:It's so trippy Timelines are. It's just such a hard. It's a hard thing because, again, like all the topics we talk about, it goes in so many different directions. And don't let it freak you out. You're on your same, you're on the timeline you're supposed to be, but I hope that, like you, have an awareness now, maybe like that deja vu or what's happening with that. The other thing is like altering other people's timelines.
Speaker 3:Melanie, I know you and I had a conversation because before I really got um I it was also a recovering people pleaser. Um, I remember I was taking on people not meant for me, like I knew I was not meant to see them, or back when my schedule was crazy. Remember it would be like, oh, I'd be booked out for like nine months in advance and more people were still coming and I'd be like, oh, I'll add you in. Like, instead of making them be at the end, like where they should be, I'd be like, okay, I'm going to see you. Like tomorrow, like I meet somebody, hear their story, and be like I'm going to see you tomorrow. And I remember you saying your guides are telling you you have to stop doing this. One, you're draining yourself and two, you are fucking with people's timelines because they aren't ready, like they aren't ready for the help, not ready to receive it, but also like they're not in the place where this is supposed to be happening.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Those words still stick with me today and I believe that because there are still people that might it might be years until they get in for a session and finally get that pop up and they come in and they're like I've been waiting for two years to get in here and two weeks ago my dad died, yep. And they're like this is so perfectly timed. And but those words that you said to me I literally they echo in the back, here somewhere when I go to overdo it, or put somebody here somewhere when I go to overdo it or put somebody in when they shouldn't be?
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause you can force things. I mean, we have free will, so it's like you can push something into existence now when it's not supposed to come to fruition yet. Yeah, and it will impact not only you but the other person. And it will impact not only you but the other person. Yeah, I mean, I did the same thing, like forcing situations or you know, whatever it is, but it never had the outcome it was supposed to, because it wasn't the right time, and I tried to make it happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, and that's the biggest thing you know patience, trust, being right where you are. There is something to be said for just being in the moment that you're in instead of freaking out. I mean, you guys listening to this topic today could listen to this and really let it freak you out, but I hope that you just remember you're just where you are right now and that's all you really have to know. The other stuff is useful, like an awareness. But yeah, man, timelines I feeling.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a distinct feeling and there's a lot of times where I messaged Melanie I was like, oh fuck I, just another timeline thing happened and I don't always fully understand it. Most of the time I don't. I understand it occurred, but I don't know the why. I don't know what's coming, you know, as far as why that happened, um, I just trust that it needed to, um, but it's definitely a weird feeling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't think we're always supposed to know, no Cause, if you know, if you know like you have, like you have, you have foresight into things and I think sometimes foresight isn't always the best, like you need to let things happen naturally. Um, I hope they never find out how to time travel, quite honestly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I hope that remains a mystery I think I think people know how to do it, but, like I said, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean the Native Americans definitely hit portals okay, so we gotta do an episode on portals and vortexes, because I feel like that's very different Chaco and all that, so I think we'll save that for another time.
Speaker 3:Um, but this was fun. You know I love talking timelines. Oh, I know.
Speaker 2:And I learned some stuff. Because I'm not the best with timelines Like they. I sometimes I can feel when they're happening, but a lot of times it just kind of freaks me out a little bit with timelines, cause I'm like there's someone, there's another me somewhere, and like it doesn't make me feel very grounded to hear. So when I tap into them it makes me feel like none of this is real and I don't like that feeling, so I try not to do it.
Speaker 3:I know you can't. You have to like visit the topic and then leave it quickly. You can't in this for too long because you will start to feel like you're losing it. And I feel like you can't sit in this for too long because you will start to feel like you're losing it. And I feel like both my kids are intuitive, but I at least have one kid that just gets and sees the way I do. So there is like this comfort, yeah, sometimes you know, and then having a friend where I can call and say, oh my God, am I me?
Speaker 3:I'll never, forget me calling you saying that. Am I me? Is this like? What are you talking about, man? No, this was fun and yeah, again, if you've had experience, please let us know, cause we want to hear from you, we want to know if you have any questions about it to hit us up. Yes, All right, well, until next time. Bye, guys. We'd love to hear from you. Email us your questions at ITL podcast 1212 at gmailcom.
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