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Haunted Objects: When Energy Lingers
Ever picked up an old object and felt an immediate sense of unease? That stunning vintage mirror or perfectly worn-in leather chair might be carrying more than just physical history. In this gripping exploration of haunted objects, Melanie and Laura take you beyond the typical ghost stories into the energetic imprints that everyday items can harbor.
The conversation opens with a fundamental truth often overlooked in our materially-driven world: everything has energy, and that energy can linger long after its original owner has departed. From residual emotional imprints to full-blown spirit attachments, the hosts share their professional insights on what makes certain objects become vessels for the otherworldly.
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this is into the light podcast with melanie smith and laura hillkirk.
Speaker 3:Welcome back, hey everybody. We are on episode three of season two, and today we are talking haunted objects.
Speaker 2:I love haunted objects.
Speaker 3:I can't help it. So it's funny, because we always talk before we hop on these and we end up having to like rein it back in because we're we don't see each other ever and we have to know catch up. And so she started telling a story and we were like, oh my god, that's what we're talking about today. So here we are haunted objects, um, basically and we get questions about that all the time you know what makes something haunted? Is it possible for, like, an object to hold possession or whatever? And the answer is yes, um, because everything has energy and anything with energy has a vibration. Sometimes is it haunted or sometimes it can have just residual energy from something where it's not spirit based, but it's like, uh, debris, like I think of it like energetic debris left on something, um, and so I'm always really careful. I love old things.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I have lots of old stuff, so many old things. Like I have this old dresser that's in here, um at the shop and um, like I had to be sure that there was nothing coming with it when I was purchasing it and bringing it.
Speaker 2:So how do you do that? Because when I when I do that, when I go into antique stores and stuff which I do avoid most of the time, like garage sales and things like that, because it doesn't have to be 100 years old to have a haunting or to have a curse or to have anything like that attached to it, but I always like touch it yeah, I pick it up and get a feeling.
Speaker 3:it's like immediate, where I'm like kind of like you do in a house, where you're like, yeah, it's definitely a feeling. I mean in, the thing I bought was on Facebook like marketplace or something. I sent my husband to get it but I just tried to tap in and be like you know, is this going to be OK? You know I don't want to spend one hundred dollars for this old antique dresser and then I get it and it's like freaking me out, you know and so they can.
Speaker 2:You can have spirits that are attached to objects.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, you can have like somebody that comes with it. They're like this is my favorite fucking dresser. Why is this in your place? I don't even like you. And then next thing you know you have a problem. And this episode isn't to like freak people out about everything they buy. But you know, even at like a garage sale, it's like there's an awareness or cleansing something or you can buy it and cleanse it. You know it's the same with crystals that you buy somewhere. You know, when I had my crystal shop, every single thing was raked and cleansed when it left here because everybody's touching that. Um, I have been to crystal shops and purchased something and then realized that the vibe was gross and I've chucked it out the window. Like I bought 40 dollars worth of crystals and just threw it out the fucking window. I was like I don't even want to do the work it's going to take to get this, whatever this is off of this yeah, haunted objects or something, because they're everywhere.
Speaker 2:I mean, the most famous haunted objects obviously is, I think, annabelle from the Warrens. That's the one that I think most people can resonate with. Or, when you talk about haunted objects, that's where most people go with that. Um, zach Baggins has a museum in Vegas that I really, really want to go to. It's the haunted museum. So he has.
Speaker 3:Well, I never want to go there, like, don't take me there ever. This is where we differ, yeah this is definitely where we differ.
Speaker 2:Because differ because I like to see what's there. I definitely protect myself and it has backfired in my face before where I've gotten attacked or I've taken Doesn't it always backfire a little bit for you Sometimes.
Speaker 2:But I think it's the museum in Vegas it's, it's the haunted, it's called the haunted museum. So he has, he has a Kevorkian's ambulance there or van or whatever it is that he had. He's got Annabelle was there for a little bit and he has this one doll there who I won't say her name, um, I won't even talk about it, um, but he has a one, he has one doll there and um, all of these objects like move on all of these objects have an energy or they have an attachment.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's demonic, sometimes it is a spirit that's negative. Um, so he's got a lot of the darker type of things. They're going on. Um, stuff is going to be like that.
Speaker 3:It's so funny because you know this is you're saying it's in Vegas and I have had two opportunities to go to Vegas and both times those trips have not gone through and I feel like my guides are like you're not allowed to go to Vegas.
Speaker 2:But Vegas is haunted in general, though. When I went there, energy.
Speaker 3:It's like the gambling, the sex, the drinking. It's like so, oh, bye.
Speaker 2:It is, but it is fun and there is a lot of like mafia ties there, so there are and I love the mob.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love, like, the history of the mob. My favorite movies are mob movies. I just, I just love the Italian mafia. But yeah, I don't think I would be able to go to that museum and be okay.
Speaker 2:A lot of people claim to have experiences there. I don't know. I just think it would just be interesting to go and observe.
Speaker 3:Oh, I would like to maybe just go and observe you in the museum.
Speaker 2:Watch me freak out my face. Did you see that? Did you see that?
Speaker 3:Nobody else is saying this. Oh my gosh. So when we were talking about this, I was trying to think of my encounters with this topic and I had one happen really recent. Um, I went into an antique store I don't even think I should say where, cause I don't want to, like, give anybody brand. So, anyways, it was an antique store not far from me, okay, and I went in with my friend and she was finding all this cute stuff and I love old things, I love the antiques, I'm so drawn to that things from like the seventies love it Mid-century modern stuff.
Speaker 3:And I look over and this is right when I done the renovations here at the shop so that my crystal shop had turned into this like healing studio and I have a lot of plants and I was looking for just like very unique things that maybe aren't plant stands that I could use as a plant stand. So I look over and I see this really cute. I think it was supposed to be like a footstool or maybe like a coffee table and it had the rattan like a pattern on it and it was wood. It was really cute and it was maybe only six inches off the ground. I thought this would be like the cutest plant stand. So I pick it up and she's shopping more.
Speaker 3:And immediately when I pick this thing up, I am feeling like my throat is closing. I'm feeling like a cough. All of a sudden, this like heaviness, and I'm like no, this is because, like I wanted it, it was cute and I was like this is not like what. I'm like ignoring all the signs, right. So I'm like I'm not supposed to have it And'm like in my head going come on, guys, like can I just sage it? Like I'll sage it and it's gonna be fine. And I just kind of wasn't feeling great. And she's looking at me and I was like I'm feeling kind of weird from this. And she's like stop it. What, what's happening? And I'm like, um, I don't know, I don't think I'm supposed to like buy this.
Speaker 3:And in that moment when I said I don't think I'm supposed to buy this, and in that moment when I said I don't think I'm supposed to buy this, I get this huge splinter from it, like huge, like you could see it. Like I'm like, oh my gosh, so I put it down. I go, oh yep, not supposed to buy this, so I put it down and then my guides say you have to get that splinter out in here, like you're taking no part of that thing. So I knew before I left the store I had to get the splinter out. Like I couldn't bring the energy from that. So I never saw a spirit that was attached to it. But I was feeling this energy and, quite frankly, I wasn't trying to tap into it, but I did. I got the splinter out in the store but yeah, my guides are going no, you're not allowed to take that. And I was like, oh my god, it's so cute, like I know exactly where I'm gonna put it. They were like no, that's the thing with haunted objects.
Speaker 2:So you'll get a physical sensation, usually before you get any other type of information, like you'll get that gut feeling, or you'll have, you know, a jarring experience like stomach ache, or you'll feel like you're going to puke or whatever it is I felt an older man.
Speaker 3:It was really strange, like I just felt an older man's energy and I felt like physically unwell. Like it didn't feel dark. It just felt like the splinter was my guide, saying look bitch so that's interesting that you say that because you bring up a good point with objects.
Speaker 2:Because if they're in a location with somebody who's dying because they have a physical health problem or they have cancer or whatever it is, objects in there can absorb any type of sick energy and it's just becomes like residual energy within the object. So people who are sensitive when they go and get that object they can they themselves can start becoming sick. That's not uncommon, it's actually more common. Like mattresses I would never buy a used mattress.
Speaker 2:No like so much, like you sleep on that, other stuff happens on it and it's like other stuff is like a part of it.
Speaker 3:That's an energetic thing. It's like you are sleeping in somebody's energetic cesspool. It's like are you going to get into an uncleaned hot tub at a whole at a busy hotel on spring break? Yeah, I mean. It's the same idea of hotels, like when you're sleeping in a bed at a hotel. That's why we struggle sleeping in hotels. Everybody does yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's like I wonder if that like rattan item hat was in the same location as that guy who may have been sick, and maybe that's why you're feeling that way and you know, and that's a good, this is a good example of, is everything like a demon in the no it's saying like that wasn't even, I don't even think it was him like having an attachment to it, but it was the energy. There was leftover energy of this and I probably could have staged it and done whatever. But for whatever reason and I'm not going to question it my guides were like no, and you know it's weird, right now my tongue feels really weird, right now, Stop talking about it.
Speaker 3:They're like I'm talking there, One side of my tongue feels I don't even know how to explain it Like it's numb or something. So that's interesting. But I'm moving on.
Speaker 2:And here's the thing like, when we talk about stuff, we are connecting to it energetically even though we're not trying to. So some stories we're not choosing to share because there was a really cool one that we won't share because we don't want to connect back.
Speaker 3:I immediately go. No, I'm like. No, you never speak of that object.
Speaker 2:And it cause it's when you talk about something you know it's spoken words, so you're kind of calling that to you Energy, doesn't you just see a difference between time?
Speaker 3:or distance you like, froze for a second when you said something happened energetically. Oh my gosh, it froze my face. Um yeah, okay, that was strange. I saw something happen on the camera. I want you to share the story about your garage.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is what led to this episode and I I know you said not everything's demons, but with me it's always a demon, so usually something negative.
Speaker 2:It's just part of my giftings and I've used it to help a lot of people. But, um, so I'm in the process of moving and I'm going to start maybe a little bit backwards from that. So when I was a kid um, growing up, when we moved to the mommy area, there was always something unsettling with the house I lived in. It was built from the ground up Like no one lived in it before us. It we, my parents, built the house. So it was always unsettling to me to be there and I couldn't quite navigate whether it was my abilities or something was residing in the house. And as I got older, I started noticing different things in the home that were attached to one certain thing and it looked demonic to me and it looked demonic to me so, and it felt that way also because it the way that it interacted and influenced people in the home and it would always stay and we had a half basement so it always would stay in the half basement behind where my mom would change the air, the air filter for the heater, would change the air, the air filter for the heater, and I never went down there Like I freaking hated that half basement so much and fast forward to. You know, my mom passed away. You know things were dispersed between family members and my garage because anybody who's a parent who has older children you just keep their shit until you've had enough of looking at it. And I'm in the process of moving. So my boyfriend's family came over and they're the best people ever and they were helping me clean out the garage. So we get to these bins of my mom's stuff that my kids wanted to keep. Well, some of it was very rusted, like cookware, yeah, and it's like there's no way they want these. So I'm messaging them and being like do you want this, do you want that? So I'm sorting through things. Everything I touched.
Speaker 2:I started feeling not well. So first I got vertigo, so I started feeling like I was tipping over. Then my stomach started hurting and at one point my boyfriend's brother he's like you know, are you okay? And I was like I don't think so, like I don't, I don't feel right, I don't feel right. And then all of a sudden I felt something go in my back area, almost like. I felt like a vibration in my back, and then all of a sudden I was getting choked and I couldn't breathe. I just started coughing and so I'm coughing and trying to catch my breath and you know they're like, oh my god, are you okay? And I'm like trying to talk, and it was awful.
Speaker 2:And then I was able to push it out. And when I pushed it out, sam, my boyfriend's brother, he was like how about I just move the things for you? And I didn't think about it and I was like okay. So he started moving the things and he immediately got sick. So he started having a stomach ache, he started having vertigo also and he just didn't feel right.
Speaker 2:And so my guides, my guides, were able to help me. I grounded myself, I was able to kind of push the energy out, I did sage myself and I got home later that day. But Sam, he was having a hard time getting rid of that. So I had to take him in the house and do Reiki on him and I was literally pulling things out and what I was getting was the image of what I used to see at my mom's house and it had some of that energy had attached to those pots and pans and those things. So we were just throwing things away because there's no way I'm handing some of those things over to my kids.
Speaker 2:And the interesting thing is, when you're dealing with objects like that, you feel like you want to keep them. You're like, oh, I want to keep these. I'm going to keep these, because at one point I was like wanting to keep some rusty like stir fry pan and I'm like why the hell would I? And they're looking at me and they're like, are you sure you want to keep that? And I was like, yeah, yeah. And then I'm like no noized feeling about the object. It's really strange and it's like that. It's that manipulative energy that makes you think you want to keep something that you know isn't good for you. But that thing choked the living shit out of me and it was.
Speaker 2:We threw as much as we could away in the garbage, through as much as we could away in the garbage, and then once we were like I ended up walking over to my garden beds and I I put my hands in the dirt because it was like I needed to disconnect or get it out of me, because when you touch things, you're absorbing energy and it's like and people with heightened abilities or something called psychometry, where they're connecting to an object through touch and they can get images, sensations, you know whatever it is and you're absorbing that energy.
Speaker 2:But these things, I don't think it was residual energy, I think it was something kind of waiting, because they'll wait, like darker spirits, will just bide their time and they'll wait so they know the future before we do so. They knew that garage was going to get cleaned out, so it was like I'm just going to wait so then I can maybe travel with to a new location or I can go somewhere else and infest there. And it was wild because that has been in my garage for, I mean, my mom died. What year is it? My mom died like six years ago, so it's literally been in my garage for six years. Why and it makes me wonder, like some of the experiences in my house, while you're- talking.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking about like another sort of branch off even of this topic, um, and we can circle back too, but and this is like a big one for me with objects, I do feel the energetic connection. It's a lot of like. Think about when you break up with somebody and you get you're like I want all their shit out of here. You hand them a box of their stuff back or whatever. I've had people, it's like that, like shifts within this space. There was one time where it was like I wanted to get rid of any energetic connection to anything that was no longer serving me and it's like everything's got to go, even like the sign I love. It's like everything's got to go, even like the sign I love. It's like boom done, I'm done with that Cleaning the house, stuff, like that. But I've had things left here in the shop on purpose with an energetic tie and I have marched it straight out to the garbage that's out by the street. Like I can feel it immediately. Or you know I talked about crystals, but there's been times like I've been given a gift or something and I'm like you know, I feel like that person's intention isn't the best, or maybe their frequency's low and they have so much of them attached to it. I'm, I am telling you if I feel anything energetic off, I don't care if I just paid $500 for something. It's gone forever. I don't question it. Bye, see you later, whatever.
Speaker 3:Um, and I think that's why it also feels so good when you clean your house and purge things that you've had, because you are shifting the energy in your home. You are shifting, you're letting go of something, and that is a big thing. I see a lot of times people that are just going through a divorce and or the death of a loved one, a widow, you know, and they're in this house and they don't want to change anything. And I'm like I know you don't want to change anything, but you have to. You have to cleanse the space. You need to get rid of that piece of furniture that that person sat in all the time. You need to get rid of those things. Your memories are not tied to an object. Your memories are with you forever, and so that's just like another way. It's like is it haunted? Not per se necessarily haunted, but there is an energetic type where you're like I'm not feeling that energy of that person too.
Speaker 2:When I got divorced, I redid my entire house.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I didn't even know why I was doing it and I'm so glad that I did and I just kind of went with the flow of things. I mean, I run at a dumpster and my sister came over and helped me clean out the garage, which is where my ex-husband would sit and drink all the time.
Speaker 2:So it was like we were literally throwing away, like we filled the entire dumpster. I didn't even care. It was like I don't care, I will buy. I'll buy it If I need something new. I just didn't want the energy there. It wasn't that I was being bitter or malicious, it was an energy thing where it's like I don't want to feel that or be reminded of something. So it had to go.
Speaker 3:And how many nightmares did you have about that damn garage?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I know I'm wondering maybe if it was because my mom's stuff was in there too.
Speaker 3:So I can't wait for you to never have to go in that garage again was in there too.
Speaker 2:So I can't wait for you to never have to go in that garage again. No, get me out of there. So, yeah, that's interesting. And then when we, when I moved in with my boyfriend, we cleaned out his basement area because it had a lot of residual things in there from his ex as well and the whole temperature of the house shifted and changed X as well and the whole temperature of the house shifted and changed, even painting the walls. I mean, that's an energetic frequency change. Yeah, so it is like spring cleaning I think that's a thing most people do and it's like you're cleaning up from the year and you're making room for something new.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's yeah, I want to hear. Okay. So clothing, oh gosh, what are some of your stories as far as clothing, I'm trying to think if I have one, but I am thinking.
Speaker 2:I definitely I can't. So clothing's weird. So I usually like I've shopped at Plato's Closet, goodwill, whatever, and not really felt anything with the clothes. You know, it's more like antique shops. Yeah, but I did a Halloween party and this had to have been seven years ago maybe, and this lady hired me for her Halloween party to do readings. Okay, I was just starting out, god, it might've been like eight years ago, um, and I was just starting out and I thought it would be fun and you know she was very well to do, lived in a mansion, so she had bought all these decorations for this Halloween party and it was really beautiful how she had it set up. And I went into this one room and there was an antique wedding dress that they had pinned to the wall, so it was like the arms were off to the side. I know was this?
Speaker 2:like decoration or like a part of the room. It was a decoration, oh. So they put it up and no, thank you, skeletons next to it and everything. And I'm staring at it and all of a sudden I look over and there is a spirit standing next to me. She had darker, stringy hair, very thin. She looked like she was malnourished and she looked at me and she said who the fuck do they think they are?
Speaker 2:And I was like my eyes I froze Because I was like and then so I didn't say anything. And she said I know you can see me. And she poked me oh my gosh, you can see me. And she poked me, oh my gosh. And I was like. So I told her in my head because, like you know, I I'm doing a walkthrough with this lady. She's showing me her decorations, where she wants me to sit, and very nice people, and she's like you know we're gonna have snacks here, you can come over here. So spirit's following me. And I'm telling spirit in my head. I was like are you, do you go to the dress? And she goes that's my dress. Who the fuck do they think they are?
Speaker 2:And she kept saying that over and, over and over again. And I was like and she goes, you tell them to take it down? And I was like no, I'm not going to do that. So I'm like arguing with this spirit in my head while I'm walking around with a client and I'm just like so finally I just broke and I said I don't mean to be rude, but where did you get that dress? And she's like oh, I bought it at auction. And I was like do you know anything about the owner of the dress? And she's like no, she's like I just liked it. She said it'd be a good decoration for the party. And I said what are you going to do with it when you're done? She goes I don't know, just toss it in a bin with, like some Halloween stuff.
Speaker 2:This spirit that was attached to that wedding dress had a complete meltdown. Like a complete meltdown when she said that. And the lady looks at me and she goes oh gosh, she goes, I got hot. All of a sudden she's and I go are you okay? Do you need to sit down? She goes yeah, I'm going to sit down for a second.
Speaker 2:The energy from the spirit started affecting her because she was so angry about how her dress was going to be treated. So I'm like looking at the spirit and and you know this, sometimes when we see spirit there, we know they're there, we can get certain details of them, but we don't see them as a whole yet. Yeah, so it's like as I started. So I'm sitting with this lady. She's not feeling good. Um, I'm looking at the spirit and she came more into focus and she had a hole in her head so I think she had killed herself. I think she shot herself, and so I'm like I'm like this is not good. This has. This is all around, just not good. None of this is good.
Speaker 2:So I told the woman what I was seeing and she's like she has she. So she starts panicking. This is why I'm very selective with what I tell people, because it is scary. Okay, some of it's very scary. So she starts panicking and I was like don't panic, this is very fixable.
Speaker 2:I was like take the dress down, you fold it up nicely, you put it in a wedding box and you just take it back to where you got it. Yeah, and that's it. And she's like is she going to go away? And the spirit was like I don't want to be here and just, she was earthbound, but she was stuck to her dress, so I think she may have killed herself in the dress. I didn't get too much clarity from her. Yeah, I don't know if she got left at the altar and her groom was a no-show. There's something I don't know if she got left at the altar and her groom was a no-show, there's something with her killing herself tied to the wedding dress, and so the lady did that Like she had her Halloween party though.
Speaker 2:So the whole time like that dress is hanging up at the Halloween party and the whole time you know this was supposed to be fun I am like dying inside because the spirit's like behind me, going like, is she going to get my dress back? Where is my dress going? And she's like very vulgar and I'm just like it was horrible. So you have to be respectful when you take things to, and this the woman who had the party. She wasn't trying to be disrespectful, because you look at an object as an object. You don't look at it as having some sort of human life value or quality to it.
Speaker 2:But there are certain things, like when I went to an antique store with my friend in Monroe, michigan. We walked in there and I had a World War Two veteran who was dead. He goes, my medals are over here and he's like I got a purple heart and I was like why would they be at an antique store? So I turn around and there it is, it's a purple heart in a box for sale and it just made me sad and he's like, he goes. You know he goes.
Speaker 2:I was awarded that. He said you know, a lot of lives were lost. But he's like telling me all this stuff and even though it's an item, it's still there's some sort of people always personify items, even when you're alive Like it's, like that's my favorite thing, it's a personification of it. So then some of your energy gets attached to it. We all have something that when we die we're going to tell people don't you dare sell it. But in the family there's always something right. For me it's my, my Nana's pearls that I were at, you know, my first wedding, and I don't like them because I wore them at my first wedding. I liked them because they were my Nana's and my mom gave them to me. So I'm going to pass them on to my kids and be like you.
Speaker 3:Better not sell them because I will haunt those. You better not sell my Pearl Jam posters.
Speaker 2:But it's one of those things. It's like everybody has wedding dresses.
Speaker 3:Man, that creeps me the fuck out Like, come on In my head, I'm going. You bought this at an auction, like what did you expect to happen?
Speaker 2:it's a wedding dress people don't think that, and it was like a creepy looking wedding dress.
Speaker 3:It was all lace, it was how many times on Facebook marketplace, garage sale, whatever do you see the person selling the ring? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Here's my other thought on rings. Oh, you need to be careful and mindful of cleansing. I'm not saying you can't buy it, I'm saying there is Juju attached to that ring. There is Juju going with that ring. If that shit fell through, there's something tied to that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Gotta be careful to like oh. Whenever I see it, I'm like oh, this is not good, this is not good, this is not good, this is not good, Not good energy.
Speaker 2:Or you're selling a ring that belonged to, like, your great grandma, or it's been in the family for like 100 years, and so it's like you're going to get somebody over there who feels a certain type of way. And I had somebody ask a really good question at a class I taught and they're like I thought spirits didn't care about their stuff when they cross over. Well, the answer is most spirits don't, right? But then you get that 1% of the population of people that died, which is a lot when you think about it that do give a shit, because they're like why'd you sell half my land? Why'd you get rid of all the pictures? What happened to my military stuff? Why didn't you do this with my jewelry?
Speaker 3:And they're pissed and some I think a lot of times when that's the case they might be somewhat still earthbound, connected, even if they're not fully here. There's a part of them that they're not letting go of here because spirits that cross over that don't care. You know, they're in this place where they're like, I'm ready to like face my life and heal and do all these things. But for whatever reason, there's certain people that are sort of like connected back to here. Um, that wedding dress, so that's fricking wild, I'm thinking she was pissed.
Speaker 2:I really think she killed herself in her dress Like that's. I never researched it after that, I never really looked into it.
Speaker 3:Is it funny how we don't do that either, like I do sometimes research, and sometimes I don't, or I forget, I don't know. I think we're just so used to it that then I ended up going. I don't even remember, you know, like whatever whatever, yeah it's.
Speaker 2:It's a moment in time where it's like I, you just kind of. I think we got to the place where we just accept what we see and feel and we're like, well, that was weird. And then we just kind of move on with things because it's a part of who we are and we've always kind of dealt with it, right, yeah, I, yeah, maybe I should have. I have no idea. I would have loved to know her story, but I just wanted her to go away. She was like, please stop. She was following me. She kept poking me too, in my arm and I remember looking at her and said if you poke me one more time, I was like we're going to have a problem, I'm going to burn your hands. And she was like, like I'll burn it. And she was stop poking me.
Speaker 3:Period. Yeah, wedding dresses, man, I feel like always. Um, you ever see those people that buy a hearse and redo it for whatever purposes. There's one that they drive around in a haunted hydro or something.
Speaker 3:And also I'll never go to haunted houses. I hate them. But I'm like, dude, you're riding in that. There's a house in Almore, the town I live in, and it's a house, a brick, beautiful, beautiful brick house. But it used to be a funeral hall and I've been inside of it because that's where my friend in high school who passed, that's where her visitation and all the stuff was in there and then the funeral was at the church across the street. But there's people living in there, like it still has the green awning. You know like where you walk in, whatever the side door, and I'm like there's. You couldn't pay me enough fucking money to live in that house. Um, you know, like a house is like an object, like there's, there's things where there's. You know, there it's. I don't get it that. Or you buy a hearse and you're redoing, or you buy an ambulance and you want there it's. I don't get it that. Or you buy a hearse and you're redoing, or you buy an ambulance and you want to redo it, or a cop car.
Speaker 2:It's like cars can be haunted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like three energy. I absolutely have a vibe. So you need to be careful. Certain cars that you're going to buy are going to have some weird vibe to it. You know. Some weird vibe to it, you know. It might not be like.
Speaker 2:Christine with Stephen King, but it's still. I mean, I've had instances where I've done readings for people and I was like why? And their guides are like they've been in so many accidents because of the car and I'm like how many accidents have you been in? Oh, like 12, 13. And their cars are it's the car. Yeah, it's not your it's. You're not a bad driver, it's your vehicle. Like your car is cursed, or there's something like with your car and you can get cursed objects too that are it's. Either somebody has done like black magic on them or they've come from like a uh, a ceremonial background, or they're part of something sacred and it should have never been removed. We see that a lot with native american stuff, like don't it from, and I'm not laughing at that part of it.
Speaker 3:I'm just laughing because I got this vision of people driving around listening to us right now and going I'm never fucking antiquing. We just killed the market for antiquing. No more garage sales, no more. It will be no more garage, nothing. No, yeah, you can. There's definitely like more severe attachments and curse type things with various sacred objects, um, things that don't look sacred.
Speaker 2:A lot of people pick up arrowheads and take them home, and I'm always very iffy with that because I'm like the land kept it for a reason and in my head, if I want to take something, I always ask which so that brings me.
Speaker 3:You know, you and I did that road trip. Oh gosh, we went to a lot of sacred places and you really should not be taking things. You know, when you're in a national park they say nothing, nothing like that. You don't bring anything out with you except for, you know, trash or whatever. Nothing in, nothing out. And if you take something, I don't care if it's like you found the most beautiful rock from sacred land which a lot of these national parks are. That is not good karmic energy for you. You leave it. Like we told my kids, like even when we were out in Sedona or whatever, we were like no, you don't pick anything up, you don't not even a stick. You, you are here walking on this, this land. You're not supposed to be doing anything else with it. I'm sorry, I got like the weirdest. Sorry, I stopped talking. I didn't mean to, but I was hearing a weird noise. Um, lauren, I've been having a day with weird stuff I'm having.
Speaker 3:It's just a strange day, um, but yeah, there it's like don't take things from from the land yeah, that's never good.
Speaker 2:I never, ever. So I we've talked about this in season one, where I've done environmental walks at locations, and one that I did an environmental walk is they they never had any issues in their home, ever, ever Nothing wrong with the land. Home was like a new build. So I'm thinking, oh, maybe this is environmental. So I go walking through there and I start getting pictures and images of arrowheads and rocks and I'm like this is native American. I'm like what is going on? So I asked him I said do you guys have arrowheads and rocks? Oh, yeah, like we. Just, you know, about seven, eight months ago we took a trip out west and we were digging in the ground. We found all these arrowheads and these rocks and we took them home with us. Do you want to see them? I'm like, when did the activity start? Well, we got back from our trip.
Speaker 3:Don't say yeah, don't say Fly back and return them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what I told him. I said you need to. I said this isn't going to stop here, because they were getting scratched. They were getting. The one kid got a burn, which that's super rare, but he got a burn like on his elbow area, like an actual burn, like somebody put a cigarette out on a burn, and I was like you need to go back. I said I don't care if it's one of you or all of you, but you need to go back and put them back where you got them, Because right now, like that, you brought this into your house and you guys are getting punished Like those weren't supposed to leave the area. Yeah, and they did. They ended up going back.
Speaker 3:And I think it's find them in where your land is or in your area, and it's being. There's a difference. So you have to know the difference, too, between gifted something Like I could see my native American tribe gifting me something on a walk and I'm going to know the difference Like, oh, this is a sacred gift that was given to me and I'm stealing from a national park or a land that I'm attached to, um, so those are very different too. I mean you just you have to have an awareness, I guess, of what you're doing. Um, so those are very different too. I mean you just you have to have an awareness, I guess, yeah, of what you're doing. Um, before we end this, uh, we have got to talk about mirrors.
Speaker 2:Oh, girl, yes so mirrors, guys.
Speaker 3:Um, I've had quite a few clients that have had craziness with mirrors, like purchased a mirror or dresser with a mirror attached and then started having all this crazy stuff happen and there's like something attached to the mirror. Um, mirrors can be portals to things. They can house things, they can be. A lot of people in black magic use mirrors in a negative way. I have had mirrors. I don't have anything that I've experienced on my end with mirrors other than somebody trying to use a mirror to send something awful to me, in which my guides swoop in and immediately cloak me in something and they send it right back whatever is sent back to them. But I have had clients that have had like wild ass stories about mirrors.
Speaker 3:What's your encounter with mirrors.
Speaker 2:I can be used as a tool of scrying, where you use a mirror to scry and get information. Um if you do it correctly, you can get information about the future, your present circumstance, um sort of Snow White.
Speaker 3:who's the fairest of them all?
Speaker 2:Like you can get like information and there's like a whole. It's like a whole way to get information and it's called scrying and you use a mirror to do that. But when you're doing that, you're being respectful.
Speaker 3:I've never heard of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you can use scrying with a mirror. Now, mirrors can also be used to conjure up things as like a portal to bring things through the other side, because the concept of a mirror, from my understanding and there might be a listener who'd be like she is way off, and if you are, email us like I like learning, tell me if I'm full of shit. But my understanding of a mirror is that there's the false reality that you're seeing behind it, so it's like empty space, different dimensional space, and then you've got the reality that you're in. When you're looking at a mirror. If you've ever watched sci-fi movies and you see people get sucked into the mirror realm, or like the realm of the mirror, and they can't get out and everything's backwards. That's kind of how I see it. Alice in.
Speaker 3:Wonderland. That's Alice in Wonderland, and I'm also thinking right now of Harry Potter and how he's seeing one thing, and then what your brain's reality is shows up in the mirror.
Speaker 2:Yes, that and then like or Doctor Strange when they go into the mirror realm, or like they call it something else, but basically it's that's where they're at, is like in this alternate reality. So that's what happens when you play around with mirrors and you're using magic. Now, if you're using mirrors in a negative way, you can set an intention for the mirror and project it onto something which was what was happening with you. So it's like you can point a mirror at somebody, or you can put a mirror in somebody's home and with that intention, it'll cause chaos. Now, mirrors are also absorbers of energies. So if you have a mirror, you have to think.
Speaker 2:Mirrors are always watching, they're always seeing what's going on in this reality. So if you have a mirror in a location where there's been a murder or there's been domestic violence or there's just been chaos, then it can absorb that energy and become haunted. Or people use mirrors to curse people, which is more like voodoo type of magic, which I don't mess around with, but you can use the mirror to reverse reality on people and cause a lot of chaos with them. Mirrors I'm picky with where I put mirrors in my house. I will not keep a mirror in my bedroom. It will never happen, ever, because I feel like it can become a portal on its own sometimes, and there'd be.
Speaker 3:I mean, mean, I'm already haunted enough as it is, I don't need a fucking mirror becoming a portal and then it's like highway is for melanie, you just need to be in a home with salt and a bed of lavender, yeah, and mugwort and sage. You don't have carpet, you just walk on sage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's it, and a rose quartz, bed, that's all I want.
Speaker 3:I mean what?
Speaker 2:more can a girl need? But yeah, but that's the thing with mirrors, though Like they're yeah, they're more than just haunted objects. They're actually tools of occult practices. So, and it's not like everybody has a mirror, like you don't need to take your bathroom mirrors down, or whatever it is. If you're listening to this, I know I'm thinking people.
Speaker 3:Please do not overreact to this episode. I feel like there needs to be a trigger warning.
Speaker 2:Everyone's gonna look the way I do right now, because no one's gonna know what they look like. So you don't have to take all of your mirrors down out of the house. But if you feel like a mirror is odd or you've always had a weird feeling about its placement, move it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Mirrors can be used in a positive way, they can bring really positive energy. It's just like anything all these things trust with your body. It's like if you have an object and weird shit started happening after you bought it, pay attention to that. Yeah, you can have mirrors. You can buy stools at antique stores.
Speaker 2:It's just like what is the energy of the object and again like trust your intuition, because sometimes things can feel good when they're not. And then you bring it home and you're like what the F is going on? Oh wait, I just bought this time to take it back. And when you dispose of haunted objects this is another thing don't be trying to burn them or like, no, no, do anything like that, because I mean, I simply threw mine away. Um, I didn't try and destroy them in any way, because that energy that the objects have, some of it can get released into where you're at and you don't really want to deal with that. Just out, yeah, throw it out.
Speaker 2:Or there's like a certain way to dispose of things, like now, if that wedding dress would have got thrown away, I think that lady would have went apeshit because she definitely could have detached from the dress. But she, she had such a significant life event happen in that dress she was just bound to it. But I think if the dress would have been destroyed or ruined, she totally could have detached from it and caused to hell for everybody. So it's like just be smart with how you're getting rid of things. Another thing before we go if you like a witchy trick here if you have a haunted object like a piece of jewelry or something that you feel is very haunted. If you get a piece of red material, um, you can wrap it in it. Very, you can just wrap it in this red material and red in the red. Using red is going to help kind of bind that energy to that area so it can't spread into your home. It's just a little witchy tip. But be careful with how you get rid of haunted things, cause you might get punished.
Speaker 3:And just be mindful when you buy something secondhand I mean, or even firsthand, I mean it's it can be anything, but you just need to have. It's all about awareness awareness of how you're feeling, awareness of being respectful with things. Um yeah, you know, I think this was such a fun episode and I really do. I'm like gig a little giggly just thinking about how many people I know are going to listen to this and freak out. So don't listen, do not freak out, okay.
Speaker 2:I feel like we opened Pandora's box and everyone's gonna be like. This is why I felt this way and like purge their whole house.
Speaker 3:No mirrors anymore yeah, don't freak out. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate all the listeners, even on the break while we're recording season two, the you know the downloads are coming in and so I don't know. We're really grateful just for all the support. Thanks, guys, we'd love to hear from you. Email us your questions at ITL podcast,1212 at gmailcom.
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