Exploring the future of leisure

In this episode, we dive into the future of the leisure industry after our visit to the EAG (Entertainment, Attractions & Gaming) event at ExCeL London. From the latest trends in gaming technology to the innovations shaping the future of entertainment spaces, we explore it all. Join us as we discuss the exciting developments and what’s next for leisure, attractions, and gaming.

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But. If. All right, guys. So here we are for live for leisure podcast slash vlog. And this week we're basically talking about all the, the different stuff that is going to be coming out over the next six, 12, 18 months, that you might start seeing to pop up into venues, maybe like Enigma, maybe like bars, maybe some sort of arcades, all that different type of stuff. Now for this one, I basically had to go all the way down into the big smoke. Big London town, the big trip, the big trip. And, as you, as you'll be able to see as you, as you're watching this, if you're watching Life of Leisure on, YouTube channel. Cheap look. Cheap. And if you if you are watching this, I went down on the Choo-Choo. You do a lot the trains. I love trains, yeah. You don't drive west. That's part of it. What do you do to save yourself from boredom when you're on the train? I watching YouTube, I don't know, okay. Yeah, we watch a lot for leisure mansions. No, you know, a lot for leisure. Because I've watched that many, many times as I'm editing it. So you are that to to big smile and you went to, I said that was collector. Oh yeah. Went to went to Excel and and basically I go to this I go to this event each year, and it just gives you an idea of, of like different stuff that's coming out, different trends. It's happening. And just trying to keep a bit of a finger on the pulse. Yeah. So I'm, I'm thinking, so those who are on the video line behind us, we've got a big dartboard and a TV screen. Yes. Let's do it. So this is our interactive darts, and we've got a Doncaster here. Yeah. This is the sort of stuff that's down there. This is the sort of stuff that you looking at. Yeah. So, the basically where we are here in, in Doncaster, this is hockey club. So step up to the hockey, Oh, you know, it is out there. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Oh, that's, green light. And, what are you. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Yeah. So basically. Okay, he's referring to adapt to not hockey. Yeah, yeah. Some people that turn up when they've got all the pads and the sticks and everything like that, they're a little bit disappointed when we give them some darts. I think to be fair, that's our Yorkshire accent. It's very rare we pronounce the H in anything like we've got, location in, oh, yeah. It's Enigma. No, it's not enigma. Whole not be alert of its own. So it's okay. People would go on as you mean. It's hockey anyway. So there you go. That's, Danny boy. He can talk a glass eye to sleep going on. Danny. So obviously we're down here, XL, I'm going to go toe wound around, and we've been down to exile. All three of us have been down there. Another chance. Yeah, it's a big old place. Yeah, I think so. We've done two franchise shows down there. Yeah. You've been for the franchise shows and, these, activities. So. Of thing. What did the license like, the. Yeah. Oh, you name it. I've been down there for a number of things, and they always seem to get me in XL, which for anybody who hasn't been to the XL before. Right. There's the, It's not the easiest place to get to. There is nothing near it. No. That an amazing cafe? No way. Yeah. So anybody who's going down to the XL, if you if you get the chance, treat yourself or treat yourself and go to Airline cafe. Okay. It's just outside the Excel. And it is nothing short of a wonderland of, culinary excellence. So I would say it's like being in Chicago with the pizza. Yes. Allegedly. Allegedly. I would allegedly like to say I believe you are. So anyway, getting back to the Excel, got down there at the right, but I wonder, and there was the usual fare of, you know, the Grubhub machines. All right. Yeah. Everybody loves the grab a machine, the claw, the claw. It's the, yeah, all that sort of stuff. Well, down there, they sell all the gear you put in there to grab. Well, as in toys and everything, you name it all that sort of stuff like giant, massive, cup of arrows, the squishy and everything that you can cuddle. Not real. So I assume assembly that they just sell them in like packs of 50 or something like I would, I would the shooter, they're not selling the stuff. They're they're showing what they do sell. Yeah. Okay. See you don't see people backing up with a transit van, boy. Right. Okay. We need to get this load of cattle viral. I dunno, I reckon. I reckon it's probably someone out there who would have. Yeah. Well, anyway, so do you know where I can rent the van? But what it's worth, so you'll find a number of stuff down there when you walk in around that you don't necessarily expect. But when you see, you go, oh, yeah, I suppose that makes sense because they're, they're basically showing everything from what you'd find in the casino to what you'd find in an arcade. And so what you find in a bar in the boat show. So they're literally doing everything from, you know, the little that number, little gimmicks that take your money, basically the little card machine to the thing that do it. There's there's booze there that are selling them or doing some sort of like, I suppose you hire purchase or something or whatever. So there's everything from then to like, the whole big Fandango, like what you would find in a, like a Mecca. Bingo. You know, a 50 year old woman with the wings, with the woman they have. Yeah. They got, So. Yeah. So 26. So, so basically to basically they've got everything that you would think of in every different leisure situation. Okay. So for, for ourselves, we're not necessarily looking for the bingo stuff. No. Okay. But if anybody thinks that, knitting bingo, is that maybe for Nick and bingo. Yeah. Bingo. Bingo. That's a good thing. Well, somebody's copyrighted bingo trademark. Oh, you've already bought the domain. That's it. I've got, like, 3 or 4 domains, right? Right. So, yeah, if anybody thinks that enigma should start doing, like, anything that you've everything that you spotted, whether it's, I don't know, bingo or whether it's something totally new that you've seen. Right. Put a message in the comments or messages or emails, as you always should be doing, to tell us what we're doing wrong or what we could be doing, or how we could do it better. What we can talk about, what we can show you, make sure you put a comment in that box if got like a link of something that we, you know, there's another show that we can be attending or. Oh, I see this low click. Just let us know. Or if you run a show, there's a show. We'll come down, we'll get some, but yeah, there's all sorts down there. That's the first place that I saw. Basically what we have is hockey club. Now, there are completely companies out there that are doing it a couple of the places, venues that that's all they do. Such as, like Flight Club, you know. Gregson. Fantastic. We are trying to diversify into doing a few different things so that you can spend a period of time under one roof. And you can have a great deal of fun doing different stuff and change it up a bit. But there were loads of stuff in there. Now, something that we've chatted about quite a while is golf or mini golf? Mini golf. This this year seemed to be a big thing. There were quite a few talking about it. I think it's completely taken off. And not only what you know, I think most people used to the the seaside seaside resort events, golf. It's normally a pirate themed thing. Some like, but now it's indoor golf because it's raining. Yeah. It's not that good. Yeah, yeah, we're in Skegness a while, but but yeah. No, obviously golf indoors now, but different things that you can do like, like there's, there's and golf I've seen that I've got you know, projected onto the actual green. Yeah I've got you seen golf where it's a flat surface. Then you press a ball and, and loads of things raise up randomly and that creates your own one. What essentially piece of green. Yeah. There's different things pop open. Yeah. It's technology is is amazing. Moving on with that. There was loads of it. In fact, most of those that you mentioned there that they were all that. So this is where as we chat and you'll be able to see, I could what could I walk around the, of the whole Excel exhibition? But there is some there are some new ones there. There was some traditional mini golf where you actually build the nine holes. Yeah. And multiple nine hole courses, things like that. That's something that we've talked about in the past. There was also the ones that you were talking about there where you just stand at a static, you know, thing and you they either have it so the, the terrain of it changes and know which is interesting. Okay. Or this it was a new one that we're looking at where it's just a straight up, it's a static thing. And it works very, very similar to our hockey club. And in fact it actually does some of the same games as our object. Okay. And you have basically got to hit the ball not necessarily in a hole but into a specific area. Oh right. Okay. And you've got to hit that. So if you are playing like killer on darts obviously you've got to hit a number set place. You know, it's the same with this. You're playing the killer. But we've got your ball has got to land in a certain area. The closer to that target, the more points. Yeah, exactly. So from what I've seen, it was like a big screen. And then you've got huge screen hits underneath. Yeah. You know you're aiming for an a bit of agree. How was the ball getting to you. Well well exactly exactly. That's all the technology you have. Yeah I will I was after the I was after the the wizardry of how they were doing that and I was nothing short of disappointed. It's just a ball boy is it is you higher a bold one on the screen. Yeah. Unfortunately not. No. Good as it goes into the hole. The bit that you might not see from from the camera is that the, the entire unit is raised up by about six inch. Right. And it just rolls down onto the floor and it comes to a central collecting area. You pick it up, you have another go, like like is it the bowling? The basically like bowling, the bowling. Any bowling. They come rolling back around in. Boss. There you go. The Hot Wheels for golf balls. Yeah, yeah. There's no need to over the pump. You want this? I'll just go for the the most effective way I, I like the idea of gravity being a constant. Yeah. You're right. It's always going to be there. All you gotta do is just not blocks the holes. Yeah, yeah. If it stops working, we've got issues going. Yeah, yeah. You've had some some little toe rock that's going to stuff the load of stuff down. There you go. Oh my God. You better watch me for that. But what I. Yeah exactly. And then I go, so, so this is, it's so much the, the what we've got the, the interactive darts. Is that the same company that does that. The golfing. Yeah. So, so they're basically doing the software into it. The actual the actual software is Sega. Okay. Oh yeah. Copyright. So Sega do the, the, the software for Hockey Club as well. Is that the because we're not then potentially have like, I don't know. It's, it's called the, the head Sonic the Hedgehog stuff. And like, are they planning on putting their games and stuff in? I don't think they're planning on. There's Shane Sega get on it. Yeah, yeah yeah, get on that. Yeah. Listen to Danny Glover. Yeah. Sonic basically turns into a ball when he's going for the you've got a name for you. Can you think of something good. So they're following Sonic goal and they've already done this like yeah well I think yeah I think everything's got a goal for this. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So so anyway so that were interesting. Then I was chatting to some guys that actually build the, you know, the full blown courses. And they were super cool. Some of the, some of the stuff that they add was really cool. They do different movie ones or the do different ones where there's like different gimmicks to the, to the cars, holes and things. And then I was chatting to some guys that had the, the ones that we were talking about earlier that basically the ball, is a also an RFID. Okay. So as you, hitting it right, it knows how many strikes of the ball. It's hot. Oh, yeah. And he tells you how far away the ball is from the hole. Yeah. That's good. Okay. So all that kind of thing. And then he tells you when he gets in the whole lot. Well done. It took you eight shots to get into the hole. No cheating anymore. Virtually. No. I'll just tuck this in and it. Oh yeah. And a part I'm a part too. No, none of that. You leave the scoring to me, sunshine. With you with the little pencil and you bookkeeping. There you go. And when you close the hole, they just go. Oh, yeah. That the little count, We'll cut that. We'll pick you up, man. You can have that. My friend. Computer says no. Yeah, you never know about because I'm sure people do. It's a tap on the ball like you would with golf. They do it more like a hockey stick, and they sort of guide the ball with the club. You see that? Oh, yeah. There's something about, you know how you do that. We don't cheat. I definitely don't cheat. Well, we went did we? I can confirm is not good enough to look like you see you know, shouldn't I think you're fine? I went last because you would all go ahead of me. So I could just do what I need to do on that. Guys, you could go on about that, can't you? It's terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. And everything we did. Yeah. And that's when he made a name for himself in the Joker. Yeah. It one extreme list. Yeah, the name was chicane. I wish I was good at the PS3, and I'm not like the mobile chicane. Anyway, I think I got lost three times by both. Yeah, to be fair, but we could jump out. Yeah, yeah, I did the hard shoulder for most of it. Yeah, yeah. Oh my goodness it, oh it was, it was so terrible. That's probably why I blocked it out. Right. So anyway so golfing there were a lot of golfing stuff going off. There was a load of, all the things such as which you'd probably like, which is shuffleboard. But it's also got, it's it involves screens. It's got cameras again. It does all you scoring for you. It tracks where I've been sitting out. That projection mapping onto the app is really clever. I was going to mention it about seems to have got quite popular as well. We've got it in Enigma rooms, Retford. And that's already seeming popular. So that's, I'm watching you in neighboring Stratford. I'm watching it. If it gets too popular, we might have put some in Doncaster and. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'll get another like Blue Dog up a lot. And it's. They do with shuffleboard. It's it's free. Free. And if is there something like. Oh yeah. Yeah. And those free. Yeah. Yeah. Every day the shuffle it. Yeah. Did it. Okay I do that. You know it's almost the right you. Yeah. Yeah. Nearly. That was at first it. Yeah. So yeah I had a look at that. And also one the I know Danny in particular would like. Okay, hold on to your books. Yeah. Karaoke boots. Yeah. I could do a karaoke. Oh. My goodness. Yeah. I was chatting to Harry Booth. We've spoken a few times about ten, seven karaoke there, and, I think the real question is which karaoke? Some mine. Oh, but my my go to is, dead. Real live. Really bitter John Bonham. Yeah, yeah. Also see, you do a good tribute and I should say I do like trivia. And I also like, like to those. I'll go with those. I guess. I'll do that. But I like a little by little as well. Little by little. That one a certain tune. Yeah. Yeah. No. Like, but if you're singing karaoke, don't say you're not singing it correctly. That's what I would say. He do the two good. Oh, yeah, I know about. I've got a good friend who does an amazing Nicholas Whispers. And is it more called than a woman by BGS? Oh my goodness. And that's a price is. And his girlfriend is pricey. Yeah that's pricey. He does. I've got to say he is nothing short of phenomenal. Unfortunately he can only hit one I know once and then he can't talk for some good amount of time after he uses everything on that. How often do you take him karaoke singing? We've only done it once and I've got to tell you, it was the best 20 minutes of watching that guy I've ever had. I can say, genuinely, he is more than a woman. He is more little. He's definitely more. He is a woman. To me, he is the price. If so, who? The karaoke goes on. Is it? Did you have to pay for the royalties of the song? Okay. That was that was so the there was a few different, a few different ways of, basically skinning this cat. They, they sold soundproofed booths, okay. Which you, you bought and then you had an ongoing relationship with them, or you paid a monthly amount which covered all the stuff, like the things like that and the tech side. All right. Okay. So if anything broke anything, you saw it, then I, and then, their other options were, if you already had spaces or rooms that you could do was okay. They, they did units that could just go into that room rather had a full blown sound. Boo boo. The only thing about the soundproof booth, I liked those and I thought they looked amazing. And then he sounded amazing there. And genuinely you couldn't hear much outside, genuinely couldn't hear much outside. Be a better basis right? I very, very wrong. Very lucky. But you couldn't get many people in it. He talking two over three. Yes. Not many. I mean, you're talking like. Well, like I just said, about 2 or 3, like. Actually three people. Okay, maybe you didn't hear me over it. But. Okay, now, from what I understand, from what I understand from chatting to the the the guy, the head honcho that was that, they don't do different sizes of them builds. That's it. Now, surely you want. Well, it gets better. Wait. There's more. So with the booths, basically the the door on the booth is unlocked. Okay. And on the outside of it, there is a QR code you scan that they pay and just step and walk in and just do what they want to. However, one they put. Right. You have nothing to do with it at all. All right. So the notebook on. No, no they they just rough code. They just scan the QR. I mean how would you how do you pre-book it that we do or. That doesn't seem like a very good. So so I was chatting to and it says oh right. Okay. Well that's, oh that's interesting. It says, well all that work for you. Oh no no, no, probably not. I says, all our customers are used to the idea of they come in and they have already pre-booked the majority of our customers already have for everything we do. But if they do roll in, we can go, right? Okay. Well, the such and such slot available, you can come in and you can do that. Yeah. Well from a client I see these are in bowling alleys and so they, Yeah. Only no way I can see the I can see it lock it up in QR code working or a bar or a bar. Yeah. Or a bar. Yeah, I could see that. I could see point. Yeah. But I think if you're specifically going for a karaoke, do especially some people are and you're going to get and go, it's not available. You'd want a booking system to check in on the way. Oh, oh he's got a look at that. Yeah. So I just don't stay on. Not even when you're in there singing. Could you? Yeah. It does. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh my God. You're in there hitting them high notes. And there's some room. They just open the door. Yeah, but it doesn't matter because all the three us in there and there's no room for Randy to get in. So. Yeah. Yeah, I leave the door open. Yeah. Come on in. Yeah, I leave the door open. So, yeah, that's what Danny Glover thought for me. I would go down the route of, hey, you're booking a room, Laney? I mean, we're sat here in Jockey Club now, for example, if we had the same size as this. So the lane and the table and everything. Yeah. So that would be one room, and you could just do it, you know, and you'd comfortably get six, ten, 12 in there. Not a problem. And you still got room to stand up and shake your thang. Shake your. But Jake, don't only, jump on the bed to the question. No, I can't do that. That's a dog time you can do, John. So anyway, so I would probably do it that way and do it as an actual booking thing I call. I would rather experienced the oh, you don't like flu while I do this, John. You even know. No, it's funny though. So there we go. Right. Okay. So so that was that was that which I did find interesting. I think as some of the thing to go into Doncaster, I don't think it fit. We don't really have the space that would lend itself to that right now. We do have space, but they're not really round the bar. And I see that as a very Jabar thing. Yeah. I think you need to be drunk to be doing, cos I've done it before in a narrow way to move, I think, I think, I think it would be a lot better if you were drunk. If you're doing a karaoke as, as someone who doesn't really drink, I'd do it anyway. And, I, I don't drink and I still go up there, I suppose. I suppose it is from about people, you know, that's that's a good point. I mean, I think I'm used to karaoke, but it's like the theory. It's the audience. No, no, no, don't bother me. I bet you'll do it for free. For anyone I know. For me, I'm about. Do you hate it when you go to a karaoke thing? And someone's actually really good at singing and they're doing karaoke, and you go make this so all about, oh, I love it. I went to I went to one. So we're going on from tangent. Yeah, yeah. So I went to I went to one. Right. And get this for a song. Get this for a song. Okay. There were some, some of the guys up there and they were at absolutely terrible. Right. Which is fantastic. Okay. They were terrible. They knew they were terrible and it was fantastic. Okay. Then this time we were it was you could have barely seen over of this table. About done is I right. Went in there I thought all right hidden up six. So, I'm going to the microphone. Right. And get this for song. She absolutely blasted out Black Velvet. Oh right, right. Black velvet. And I was literally stood there like, holy hell. Because when the music came on all up in here took Joyce. Oh, this is a song. Oh my goodness, this is a hard one. You got to be confident. You. Oh, yeah. You need some balls on you. Yeah. I mean, you need to know that you're going to do badly. Are you going to smoke it? Yeah. She must it. She knew she was going to smash it. I mean, she did everything I did one months where everyone was singing about, and this old boy got up. He must be 60 out if you're a day. Listen, listen, don't go for nice. And I'm like, well. And he's sunny. Amazingly, I like that. You can see the guy went on next. It was singing three lines on the sheet or something. Now you can see it going up. Good. Yeah. This is. Yeah. I mean, the place you should have known, though. The guy with like 25 still, Get out. Get a handkerchief out of hankie. Japanese. Hey. You know. Hey, you got to go cash trip the chandelier smashed on the chandelier. Shattered any. Yeah, that's up though. I held up the wine glass. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I'd use it when it came out of nowhere. And I'm pretty sure, you know, he wasn't with anyone. He was just at the bar, right? Oh, that's my turn. Is it Derek from Tesco? Right. Okay. The nurse I made amazing and not quite. Oh, thank God. Yeah, yeah, I went to I went to an old Mendoza once and I and they did karaoke every Friday night. And I went to this old man boozer and I. I'm not exaggerating. The three people that were up there before me, all three of them were all dupes, right? And every single one of them sang a different Elvis tune, right? Right. So, so I was I was third in the night. Sorry. Fourth in the night to all the first three all did Elvis. I went up there and I thought, okay, I'm going to play it safe. And my first one, okay. Because I'm like a serial killer out on, karaoke. I'll get up and up and up. You know, I'm not bothered. Right? So the comes in. Goes when I say, so, so basically all three of these, like, you name it all, all the suspicious minds and, you know, all these different, like, Elvis tunes. I went up did where's this? Little by little. Yeah. The rest of the night, every single person did. Elvis. Wow. Right. Was it an Elvis night? You just, you know, I don't know, I was genuinely expecting, after the next one after me, another 2 or 3 people up. We did Elvis, and, And the guy was running it. He says you want to come up with. There is no no, I says, I don't know any Elvis tunes. Might not. Well, I don't really say I don't when the words come on the screen. Yeah, well that's no good to me. That's no good to me. I need to know the two because, I'm dyslexic as it comes. I got, I got me reading that. Anyway. So anyway, back to the character. No booze and no karaoke chat. The drinks order in in the booth. I have that going on. That's always in a carrier. All right. And the usually is QR code where you can order drinks. Yes. And stuff like that. That that was my account there to the long ago. Said it's not there near the bar the Duke where they bring the service. Okay. What do we think about that. Because a lot more places do it. Obviously when this film just got their own app and things like that. But yeah, but a lot, a lot more bars and places you go and they'll be a QR code on the table and it's table service. What do you think I we I positive atmosphere you want because I think some people like going to the bar. Yeah. To the bar. Yeah. Whatever I've got I've got to be honest. So to me it's a bit but I think it's an atmosphere killer. Yeah okay. Also a lot of people the app tech I've put off the media, I know a number of people and just what a just what do it. People just want to pay cash. They want to pay cash, which obviously I mean nowadays that's becoming less and less. Yeah. I mean, like you just said, the guys, the guys have put in card machines on the firm of like slot machines. Yeah. Because people don't roll with cash anymore. We don't even accept cash on our bars now. Doncaster. So there was a card thing on, you know, the little toy cars outside the supermarket. They pop out, and maybe it was back, in fact, report card on. Oh, there's no way you can tell your child we ain't got enough money because you just get your phone out goes beep. So there you go, James. Right. But not to that for a bit. Yeah, yeah. And they'll wait there all day. But but you do you still say to him yeah. Yeah. It just stays still yet. No, no what I do is I put him in it and then I move it. So that is tricky. Yeah, but it's been part and not so close to a roller coaster Danny will get. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my goodness, that's so, so. Yeah, it is interesting. I think I think it, I think there's a lot of people against it and I think, it's, it's not necessarily something that anyone's want to do for a reason. Like you saying I'm, I'm not over interested in. I like the idea of somebody coming to your group when they've got a little handheld low tech, all the orders, the tech, the payment there in the end, because they've been tap bits, right? And they bring it back to you. I like that personal touch. You know, also there's a there's a service there in case of fancy. But what do you like. Well, I'll tell you I've got this. This is this. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I am gonna give that a minute, but I'll tell you what tastes a bit like all that sort of stuff. Obviously someone. And they send me cocktails. So what cocktails you've got, they've got a list of the cocktails that. Yeah, but it's soon. They say, well, actually, this one is right. Green. Yeah, I think I like gin. Right. Well, I've got gin. Oh, I tell you what, I haven't got a gin cocktail, but I can substitute that stuff, and that'll be just as nice, I think. Yeah. Not lame. QR code I was going to throw it a little bit. Is for cocktails and stuff. You can show pictures of stuff on the menu. You can, so you can see if you are just sat in the booth, that kind of thing. You don't need to go through just word of mouth. You can see what there is. Ball. So that is a lot of menus. Yeah. Yeah definitely. Definitely. So yeah. So there are a lot of that sort of stuff. And then there was an absolute turn, as there has been for the last couple of years, a ton of VR. Yeah. Oh, it was some of the fun shows. Yeah. A lot of it is a big thing, a lot of it. There's a lot of companies that are jumping on it. There's, this park they do like bigger a bigger what they call arenas. Yeah. Which is basically just a big area that is painted with, like different shirts and stuff like that on the floor, on the walls, so that the headset can determine where you are in the space. Okay. So that was really interesting. It's it's like what we've spoken about before. I'm not interested in putting it into an escape room, okay? Because I don't think it's there for people to just pick it up, put it on and, and crack on with it without any sort of interruption. Yeah. What is there a market? And I'm sure there is a market. Is there a market for us to go. Right. Okay. Well actually let's have like a little a little VR arena like where it's like 4 or 6 people in this definitely like going to be a younger market coming up, isn't it. It's the next generation of, of technology that they've been used to. But I think this is, this is this stuff. It sounds it's going back to what we've just been talking about in terms of people like to go up to the bar and interact and things that it's the same sort of thing, rather than interacting with a CGI, something, interacting with a physical prop or a physical puzzle or something like that. It is in this room. That's definitely the thing. Is the interaction with the room, picking stuff over an infinite round, you can get round it if you want it to see it through digital stuff, you just plug it and try on things like magic. If you're going to do a magic thing or that's that kind of thing, something pops up and mysteriously, that's when you're on the AR. It's not as cool because you go, well, that's just an animated thing. Yeah. Obviously when something happens in real life, you generally go, oh, wow, that is awesome. Yeah. So yeah, real life is limited by what you can do. Yeah, it really is. Do it, I think I think there's definitely a market for added. I, I don't think there was a bank of experience and one of them was a VR thing. Yes. And you put that on and you basically jump from his house to all the different places in his town that that inspired certain pictures. Yeah. And so it's and that was cool to see the recreation of because then you saw, oh, this is my view. Then the painting appeared on top of it and you could see where were these patients. Yeah. And that was cool. And I know there's like VR things where this might be an old ruined abbey or something like that, and they resolve it. Yeah, yeah. She's the, she was the queen of it. And she. Anyway, and and and. Yeah. So, they recreate things online. You start and I think there's this, there's that side of things I do find and I do find interesting. But to go for something like an experience for me, it's. And once the lots are done. Yeah. I think personally and everybody's jumping on the low hanging fruit of VR or a VR arena is some sort of team shoot a. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Last one standing. Deathmatch or whatever. That's the low hanging fruit. And everybody's got loads, everybody's doing those and everybody's doing some sort of like zombie apocalypse. And you've got all them all off for different ways, like, like in well, basically like in, Call of Duty. Yeah. You know, like zombies on there, you know, is that exactly the same sort of thing? Except, you know, you've literally got headphones on and the vision of it and everywhere you look. But that's where this has been. That's where the market is. It's the market of all the kids that, I've played Call of Duty coming up and then fight and then sort of, you know, that the PlayStation VR and all that sort of stuff they played did that and that full. That's what they are expecting when they go out. That's the entertainment that's going to hold them. They want to experience up and get us as, as I, as I, you know, maybe I'm just old fashioned. I'm definitely old fashioned, not prefer a physical, for profit. It's the same thing. Why I prefer live theater to a film. I just like the physical thing of anything can happen. And, I, you know, I'm amazed at the technology. Even in theater, that can happen as opposed to a film with much CGI. It's a greenscreen, you know, whatever. It can't be green screen because it's live. And that's that's the same concept between VR and, physical things. So yes, there's definitely a market I just noticed. And so they've got the arenas where it's basically a room with the yeah, the walls and stuff, and it generates the walls. But if you also see the rigs where they have going in the stand on it, it's all wired up and the it's movement tracking. Yeah. They stand standing spot. Yeah, yeah. The only thing with them you can't roam. You're not supposed to you're not supposed to go. People that that they do. All the videos I've seen, people running like a lazy quest like everybody said to me, well, you know, don't run, don't run. Yeah. Don't you worry, fella. I'm not going to run literally within 10s. I mean, I've just got a long stride. Yeah, yeah, that's very quick. Yeah, yeah, about a minute, but but you've heard them say don't run while you've had someone running in the background. Yeah. I would go and tell that guy I was in one and literally across the room and the front and the back of their t shirt, he says, don't run, right. They literally they won the t shirt. But anyway, yeah. So VR I think could be interesting. It is something that we keep bringing up and we, we do keep looking at but yeah. So there we go. So that's, that's a bit of a snapshot of, of what I got up to this week and, and that's another podcast slash vlog. Yeah. So any anybody looking for the podcast, you can find the podcast on any of the usual podcast providers, such as, like, on the Apple version, on the, Google's version, on, Prime, on you name it, it's on all of them. But also if you if you listen to the podcast and you're want em to watch the actual videos that go along with this, check us out on YouTube. On my life of Leisure, and, and you'll be able to see, a Beautiful Faces to go with our dulcet tones. So thanks again for another week, and we'll catch you next week.